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'We love to keep pets, forming close bonds with them | 0:00:03 | 0:00:06 | |
'and making them part of our lives.' | 0:00:06 | 0:00:09 | |
OK, that's it, I'm in love. That's it, it's official. | 0:00:09 | 0:00:12 | |
'But around the world, some people have sought out unusual, and even | 0:00:13 | 0:00:17 | |
'potentially dangerous relationships, | 0:00:17 | 0:00:19 | |
'with some very surprising animals.' | 0:00:19 | 0:00:22 | |
Every morning I'd get up and he would attack. | 0:00:22 | 0:00:25 | |
For a human to want to befriend a lion is one thing, | 0:00:27 | 0:00:30 | |
but it takes two to form a partnership. | 0:00:30 | 0:00:33 | |
If you get a bird to be your friend, you have a friend for life. | 0:00:33 | 0:00:37 | |
When she's in a good mood, it's a phenomenal feeling. | 0:00:37 | 0:00:40 | |
And recently science has begun to unearth why other animals | 0:00:40 | 0:00:44 | |
might be willing to form lasting bonds with us. | 0:00:44 | 0:00:47 | |
'I'm Liz Bonnin and I'm going on a worldwide journey of discovery...' | 0:00:48 | 0:00:53 | |
Whoa! | 0:00:53 | 0:00:54 | |
'..to uncover the reasons behind | 0:00:54 | 0:00:56 | |
'some of the most unexpected animal/human friendships.' | 0:00:56 | 0:01:00 | |
The dolphins are telling the fishermen how to fish. | 0:01:00 | 0:01:03 | |
'How a hippo could become part of a family.' | 0:01:04 | 0:01:07 | |
I'm feeding a hippo. | 0:01:08 | 0:01:09 | |
'Why a polar bear would let a man give it a hug.' | 0:01:09 | 0:01:13 | |
It's just a really special bond. | 0:01:13 | 0:01:15 | |
'And how a human could ever join | 0:01:15 | 0:01:17 | |
'a pack of hyenas without being harmed.' | 0:01:17 | 0:01:20 | |
There's probably a reason why | 0:01:20 | 0:01:21 | |
a lot of people don't work with these guys. | 0:01:21 | 0:01:24 | |
'I'm going to meet some of the most profound and extreme pairings' | 0:01:24 | 0:01:28 | |
to find out what lies at the heart | 0:01:28 | 0:01:30 | |
of these surprising human/animal relationships. | 0:01:30 | 0:01:33 | |
SHE TALKS QUIETLY | 0:01:45 | 0:01:48 | |
Millions of us have close bonds with animals | 0:01:56 | 0:02:00 | |
and, for most people, that means our pets, | 0:02:00 | 0:02:02 | |
like cats or dogs, like Ernie here. | 0:02:02 | 0:02:05 | |
Ain't that right? | 0:02:05 | 0:02:06 | |
But some people have made friends | 0:02:06 | 0:02:08 | |
with animals that you'd normally avoid. | 0:02:08 | 0:02:11 | |
So how have they done this? | 0:02:11 | 0:02:13 | |
I'm going to try and find out how these relationships have formed, | 0:02:13 | 0:02:16 | |
why they work, and what's in it for both the humans and the animals. | 0:02:16 | 0:02:21 | |
Go on! | 0:02:21 | 0:02:23 | |
-LAUGHING: -Oh, I forgot he was tied! | 0:02:23 | 0:02:25 | |
I'm starting by tracking down three remarkable relationships | 0:02:32 | 0:02:36 | |
that seem to defy logic, | 0:02:36 | 0:02:38 | |
to try and discover how these bonds form. | 0:02:38 | 0:02:41 | |
And I'm beginning my extraordinary journey in Canada, | 0:02:45 | 0:02:49 | |
just outside Vancouver, near the small town of Abbotsford. | 0:02:49 | 0:02:53 | |
I've come here to meet Mark Dumas. | 0:02:57 | 0:03:00 | |
More than 16 million people have watched a clip of him | 0:03:00 | 0:03:04 | |
swimming with a rather unexpected female companion. | 0:03:04 | 0:03:07 | |
Her name is Agee, she's 18 years of age, | 0:03:09 | 0:03:12 | |
and she weighs around 60st or so. | 0:03:12 | 0:03:16 | |
Agee is a polar bear and Mark has been her guardian, | 0:03:19 | 0:03:24 | |
provider and playmate since she was 8 weeks old. | 0:03:24 | 0:03:27 | |
Mark is the only person in the world who has this kind of bond | 0:03:30 | 0:03:33 | |
with a fully grown polar bear. | 0:03:33 | 0:03:36 | |
And apparently, with anyone other than Mark or his wife Dawn, | 0:03:36 | 0:03:40 | |
Agee can get a bit cranky. | 0:03:40 | 0:03:42 | |
What do I need to know, Dawn? | 0:03:42 | 0:03:44 | |
She's jealous of other women. | 0:03:44 | 0:03:46 | |
-LIZ LAUGHS -Seriously? -Seriously. | 0:03:46 | 0:03:48 | |
When someone starts talking to me | 0:03:48 | 0:03:50 | |
and takes my attention away from her, she gets upset about it. | 0:03:50 | 0:03:54 | |
Dawn can take my attention as much as she wants | 0:03:54 | 0:03:58 | |
because Agee doesn't mind Dawn. | 0:03:58 | 0:03:59 | |
She's used to me talking all the time. | 0:03:59 | 0:04:01 | |
She's super protective of you, do you think? | 0:04:01 | 0:04:04 | |
Is that what this behaviour's about, or what? | 0:04:04 | 0:04:06 | |
I think she's just possessive. | 0:04:06 | 0:04:07 | |
Possessive! I need to see this with my own eyes. | 0:04:07 | 0:04:10 | |
'Getting close to a jealous and potentially dangerous polar bear | 0:04:11 | 0:04:14 | |
'is a little disconcerting, but Dawn tells me | 0:04:14 | 0:04:17 | |
'I'll be fine as long as I let Agee have all of Mark's attention.' | 0:04:17 | 0:04:22 | |
I give him a little bit of time to get through the gate. | 0:04:22 | 0:04:24 | |
She's already very curious, isn't she? | 0:04:24 | 0:04:27 | |
-Hi, honey. -And then we stay about three feet away. | 0:04:27 | 0:04:30 | |
Um... | 0:04:30 | 0:04:31 | |
So the gate's open...? | 0:04:31 | 0:04:33 | |
The gate's open so we can travel. | 0:04:33 | 0:04:35 | |
Oh, right, so we're actually not behind a closed fence... | 0:04:37 | 0:04:41 | |
Yeah. Come on in! | 0:04:41 | 0:04:42 | |
-Are you sure? -I'm positive. Come on in. | 0:04:42 | 0:04:45 | |
The things I do for a day job. | 0:04:45 | 0:04:47 | |
She's right behind you, Dawn. | 0:04:47 | 0:04:48 | |
Hi, honey, hi. That's her fence, she knows that's her fence. | 0:04:48 | 0:04:53 | |
Hi, sweetheart. | 0:04:53 | 0:04:55 | |
Just taking stock of what exactly is going on because I didn't realise | 0:04:56 | 0:05:00 | |
we weren't going to be behind a closed fence. | 0:05:00 | 0:05:02 | |
And I'm staring at a polar bear... who is smelling the air, | 0:05:02 | 0:05:06 | |
figuring out who we are. | 0:05:06 | 0:05:07 | |
And you are utterly confident that you can predict her behaviour? | 0:05:07 | 0:05:12 | |
Absolutely, we've known her since she was a baby, and we also | 0:05:12 | 0:05:17 | |
know they do not view electricity the way we do, | 0:05:17 | 0:05:21 | |
they don't logically think, "Oh, I can step over it or get under it," | 0:05:21 | 0:05:24 | |
they view it as a wall. | 0:05:24 | 0:05:26 | |
LOW REPETITIVE RUMBLING | 0:05:26 | 0:05:28 | |
-Can you hear it? -What's that? | 0:05:28 | 0:05:30 | |
Her noo-noo. If you're quiet, you can hear it. | 0:05:30 | 0:05:33 | |
LOW REPETITIVE RUMBLING | 0:05:33 | 0:05:35 | |
-Do you hear that low rumble? -Yes. What is that? | 0:05:35 | 0:05:39 | |
That's her, it's almost like a purring noise for a cat | 0:05:39 | 0:05:42 | |
-but it's her... -DAWN MIMICS THE NOISE | 0:05:42 | 0:05:44 | |
..that she makes because she's super content | 0:05:44 | 0:05:47 | |
and she's sucking on her tongue right now. | 0:05:47 | 0:05:49 | |
I thought it was an engine or something. | 0:05:49 | 0:05:51 | |
-That is actually coming from the polar bear! -That is coming from her. | 0:05:51 | 0:05:54 | |
LOW RUMBLING CONTINUES | 0:05:54 | 0:05:55 | |
She's clearly really close to Mark. | 0:05:58 | 0:06:01 | |
How do you think Agee sees him? | 0:06:01 | 0:06:03 | |
Agee sees him as her mother and father together really, | 0:06:03 | 0:06:07 | |
and companion. | 0:06:07 | 0:06:09 | |
So this is all about Agee thinking of him as kin | 0:06:09 | 0:06:12 | |
since 8 weeks of age. | 0:06:12 | 0:06:14 | |
Right, which would be as long as she can remember. | 0:06:14 | 0:06:17 | |
-LOW RUMBLING CONTINUES -Listen to that. | 0:06:17 | 0:06:19 | |
Is that your daddy, are you happy? Ahh, happy girl. | 0:06:19 | 0:06:22 | |
'Mark trains animals for the movie industry | 0:06:24 | 0:06:27 | |
'and 18 years ago he was asked to find a polar bear for a film. | 0:06:27 | 0:06:32 | |
'He'd heard about a cub that was being hand-reared | 0:06:32 | 0:06:34 | |
'by staff at a zoo as her mother was getting too old.' | 0:06:34 | 0:06:38 | |
Agee was the 11th baby born with this mother, | 0:06:38 | 0:06:41 | |
so this mother couldn't properly care for her. | 0:06:41 | 0:06:45 | |
So Mark took her on and trained her for the film, | 0:06:45 | 0:06:48 | |
but he didn't expect their relationship | 0:06:48 | 0:06:50 | |
to develop in the way it did. | 0:06:50 | 0:06:52 | |
It's my job and it's what I had to do | 0:06:52 | 0:06:55 | |
and as I'm doing it, I became very, very attached to her. | 0:06:55 | 0:06:59 | |
So tell me what you feel about your relationship with Agee? | 0:06:59 | 0:07:03 | |
It's just a really special bond. I love her a lot. | 0:07:03 | 0:07:08 | |
I can't say she loves me. She really is bonded to me... | 0:07:08 | 0:07:13 | |
-She loves him. She loves him. -There you go. -There's no doubt. | 0:07:13 | 0:07:19 | |
We have a really wonderful relationship | 0:07:19 | 0:07:21 | |
and I would never change that for anything. | 0:07:21 | 0:07:23 | |
We knew when we got her | 0:07:23 | 0:07:26 | |
that it was a commitment we make for the rest of her life. | 0:07:26 | 0:07:29 | |
'Mark became a parental figure for Agee from a very early age.' | 0:07:29 | 0:07:34 | |
When she was two months old, she was barely walking. | 0:07:34 | 0:07:36 | |
And I became the... Middle of the night, wake up | 0:07:36 | 0:07:40 | |
cos she's yelling and I'd go down | 0:07:40 | 0:07:42 | |
and I fed her and spent time with her | 0:07:42 | 0:07:44 | |
and then she'd go back to sleep and then I'd go back to sleep, | 0:07:44 | 0:07:47 | |
and then I'd wake up again early in the morning, | 0:07:47 | 0:07:49 | |
do the same thing over again. So I spent a lot of time with her. | 0:07:49 | 0:07:53 | |
And do you think that was the key to having her bond with you? | 0:07:53 | 0:07:57 | |
Oh, absolutely, the more time you spend with them, | 0:07:57 | 0:08:00 | |
the closer their bond is. | 0:08:00 | 0:08:01 | |
What would you say, cos I've got to ask you, | 0:08:01 | 0:08:04 | |
does she not belong in the wild? | 0:08:04 | 0:08:06 | |
She couldn't be in the wild if she wanted to. | 0:08:06 | 0:08:08 | |
She was born in captivity. You can't take... | 0:08:08 | 0:08:11 | |
It's very difficult to take an animal in captivity | 0:08:11 | 0:08:14 | |
and then turn it loose in the wild. It doesn't seem to work very well. | 0:08:14 | 0:08:17 | |
Whatever you think of this situation, | 0:08:21 | 0:08:23 | |
Mark has an incredibly close bond with Agee, | 0:08:23 | 0:08:26 | |
and even though she is a fully-grown polar bear | 0:08:26 | 0:08:29 | |
with the strength to kill with one blow, | 0:08:29 | 0:08:31 | |
he has never felt in danger around her. | 0:08:31 | 0:08:33 | |
And it seems this has all been made possible | 0:08:36 | 0:08:39 | |
because he hand-reared her from a very young age. | 0:08:39 | 0:08:42 | |
To find out how this works, | 0:08:45 | 0:08:47 | |
I'm meeting Jason Goldman from the University of Southern California. | 0:08:47 | 0:08:52 | |
Certainly for a mammal like a bear, | 0:08:52 | 0:08:53 | |
you know, we're not necessarily born with | 0:08:53 | 0:08:56 | |
an expectation of what Mum is supposed to look like, | 0:08:56 | 0:08:58 | |
or what other members of our species are supposed to look like. | 0:08:58 | 0:09:02 | |
Or, even if we are, it's probably very easily over-ridden. | 0:09:02 | 0:09:06 | |
So if this young polar bear, for example, only had experience | 0:09:06 | 0:09:09 | |
with other humans, particularly with this one human, | 0:09:09 | 0:09:12 | |
then it stands to reason that they would develop this kind of relationship, | 0:09:12 | 0:09:16 | |
that it would look to this human as a parental figure. | 0:09:16 | 0:09:19 | |
But if you took a mature polar bear | 0:09:19 | 0:09:20 | |
who perhaps had never had any experience with humans, | 0:09:20 | 0:09:23 | |
then you'd probably get a different kind of pattern. | 0:09:23 | 0:09:26 | |
-Probably? I'd say definitely! -Definitely! | 0:09:26 | 0:09:28 | |
So hand-rearing and training a dangerous animal | 0:09:28 | 0:09:32 | |
from a young age can result in a close bond | 0:09:32 | 0:09:35 | |
and it's likely Agee's temperament plays a part. | 0:09:35 | 0:09:38 | |
But occasionally this kind of connection can happen | 0:09:39 | 0:09:42 | |
entirely by accident. | 0:09:42 | 0:09:44 | |
To meet my next odd couple, I've travelled to South Africa | 0:09:44 | 0:09:48 | |
and a small farm near Hoedspruit | 0:09:48 | 0:09:50 | |
on the edge of the Kruger National Park. | 0:09:50 | 0:09:52 | |
Here at her home on the banks of the Blyde River, | 0:09:58 | 0:10:01 | |
Shirley Joubert is making tea for Jessica, | 0:10:01 | 0:10:04 | |
who she looks after like a daughter. | 0:10:04 | 0:10:07 | |
Shirley, what kind of tea are you making her? | 0:10:07 | 0:10:09 | |
I'm making her rooibos tea with lukewarm water and some brown sugar. | 0:10:09 | 0:10:15 | |
So why rooibos tea with sugar? | 0:10:15 | 0:10:18 | |
Rooibos tea is very healthy for her, | 0:10:18 | 0:10:21 | |
so she has 20 litres of this a day. | 0:10:21 | 0:10:23 | |
20 litres of the stuff every day! You're kept busy, aren't you? | 0:10:23 | 0:10:27 | |
Yes, yes, but it's like doing it for a baby, you know. | 0:10:27 | 0:10:31 | |
And in my eyes Jessica has never grown up. | 0:10:31 | 0:10:34 | |
Because she's 13, is that right? | 0:10:34 | 0:10:36 | |
She's 13, but she's still the baby girl. | 0:10:36 | 0:10:39 | |
Something tells me you love it, though. | 0:10:39 | 0:10:41 | |
Oh, it's my life! | 0:10:41 | 0:10:42 | |
The bond there is just so strong and I haven't got kids of my own, | 0:10:42 | 0:10:47 | |
so the bond between us is so strong. | 0:10:47 | 0:10:49 | |
Can I keep you company while you feed her the rooibos tea? | 0:10:49 | 0:10:53 | |
Yes. | 0:10:53 | 0:10:54 | |
-Let's go. -Brilliant! | 0:10:54 | 0:10:56 | |
And you see, there's Jessica. | 0:10:56 | 0:10:58 | |
-Yeah. She's an absolute beauty, isn't she? -She's adorable, eh? | 0:10:58 | 0:11:01 | |
She's rather good looking. | 0:11:01 | 0:11:04 | |
Look at her! | 0:11:04 | 0:11:06 | |
-So this is Jess. -This is Jess. | 0:11:06 | 0:11:09 | |
'Yes, Jessica is a hippopotamus. | 0:11:09 | 0:11:11 | |
'Shirley and her husband Tonie took her in | 0:11:11 | 0:11:15 | |
'when she was separated from her mother as a newborn.' | 0:11:15 | 0:11:18 | |
SHIRLEY COOS IN AFRIKAANS | 0:11:18 | 0:11:22 | |
Aw, you're so thirsty, Jess. | 0:11:22 | 0:11:24 | |
She's 13 and she's drinking from a bottle! | 0:11:24 | 0:11:28 | |
Look at those teeth. | 0:11:28 | 0:11:29 | |
She definitely likes rooibos tea, eh? | 0:11:31 | 0:11:33 | |
-Oh, she loves it. -That's it, do you want me to do it? | 0:11:33 | 0:11:36 | |
-Yes, please. -Oh, good lord. OK, here you go. | 0:11:36 | 0:11:39 | |
Now, do I squeeze it or does she just go for it? | 0:11:39 | 0:11:41 | |
No, she just sucks on it. | 0:11:41 | 0:11:43 | |
Wow-weezers! | 0:11:43 | 0:11:45 | |
'The relationship that Tonie and Shirley have with Jessica is unique. | 0:11:45 | 0:11:49 | |
'This is the only place in the world | 0:11:49 | 0:11:51 | |
'I could ever get this close to a hippo.' | 0:11:51 | 0:11:53 | |
The hairs on her snout are ridiculous! Look at that! | 0:11:53 | 0:11:58 | |
Can you feel you're actually relaxing? | 0:11:58 | 0:12:00 | |
I've never experienced anything like this. | 0:12:00 | 0:12:03 | |
I'm just a little bit cautious, I guess. | 0:12:03 | 0:12:05 | |
'Hippos can be extremely dangerous | 0:12:05 | 0:12:08 | |
'and they kill more people than any other mammal in Africa.' | 0:12:08 | 0:12:11 | |
-She sucks on it afterwards. -Yeah. | 0:12:11 | 0:12:14 | |
So tell me about how you came to have Jessica in the first place. | 0:12:14 | 0:12:19 | |
How did it happen? | 0:12:19 | 0:12:20 | |
Well, we found her in the year 2000 with the floods | 0:12:20 | 0:12:24 | |
-and she was washed away from her mother. -Right. | 0:12:24 | 0:12:27 | |
And, well, she washed out just in front of our house. | 0:12:27 | 0:12:31 | |
So I ran down and I touched her. | 0:12:31 | 0:12:34 | |
How small was she? | 0:12:34 | 0:12:35 | |
She was premature and she still had on her umbilical cord. | 0:12:35 | 0:12:40 | |
Oh, good grief, so she literally had been born, | 0:12:40 | 0:12:42 | |
the floods happened and she got washed up. What happened then? | 0:12:42 | 0:12:46 | |
We took her into the house | 0:12:46 | 0:12:47 | |
and Tonie, with his game-ranging experience, | 0:12:47 | 0:12:51 | |
he actually knew the formula to make it like her mother's milk. | 0:12:51 | 0:12:55 | |
And that was the first thing that we actually gave to her. | 0:12:55 | 0:12:58 | |
So you didn't have a chance to reunite her with her mother, | 0:12:58 | 0:13:01 | |
obviously, she was washed up, you couldn't...? | 0:13:01 | 0:13:03 | |
No, no, she never was reunited with her mum. | 0:13:03 | 0:13:06 | |
'What probably makes this relationship work is | 0:13:06 | 0:13:09 | |
'a process called imprinting, where an animal | 0:13:09 | 0:13:12 | |
'forms a very strong bond with the first living thing it sees. | 0:13:12 | 0:13:16 | |
'As Jessica was washed away from her mother as soon as she was born, | 0:13:16 | 0:13:20 | |
'it's likely that Tonie and Shirley were the first things she saw.' | 0:13:20 | 0:13:24 | |
So do you think she has imprinted on you or on Tonie? | 0:13:24 | 0:13:27 | |
-I think that it's 50/50. -Right. | 0:13:27 | 0:13:31 | |
-Definitely. She sees us as her parents. -Yeah. | 0:13:31 | 0:13:35 | |
Your bond is stronger than I expected it to be. | 0:13:35 | 0:13:38 | |
You know, I don't see Jessica as a hippo, | 0:13:38 | 0:13:40 | |
I've actually got a psychological problem with that. | 0:13:40 | 0:13:44 | |
Ahh, you're so in love with her, is it? | 0:13:44 | 0:13:47 | |
I can't see her as that. | 0:13:47 | 0:13:49 | |
I mean, when I want to hug her, I just hug her. | 0:13:49 | 0:13:51 | |
Wherever I go, she'll be following me | 0:13:54 | 0:13:57 | |
and wherever she goes, I'll be following her. | 0:13:57 | 0:13:59 | |
Jessica also regularly wanders off back into the wild. | 0:14:01 | 0:14:06 | |
She's not in captivity at all. | 0:14:06 | 0:14:08 | |
If Jessica wanted to leave, she could be in Mozambique now. | 0:14:08 | 0:14:14 | |
But she always comes home and she always comes back. | 0:14:14 | 0:14:18 | |
Sometimes she sleeps on the porch with the dog. | 0:14:23 | 0:14:26 | |
And Tonie and Shirley will even give her a massage. | 0:14:31 | 0:14:34 | |
But at dinner time, she pops into the kitchen to eat with the family. | 0:14:43 | 0:14:47 | |
SHIRLEY SPEAKS AFRIKAANS | 0:14:47 | 0:14:51 | |
Oh, good grief, this is unbelievable. | 0:14:54 | 0:14:58 | |
-LIZ GASPS -Wow! | 0:14:58 | 0:15:02 | |
'On the menu tonight, it's green beans.' | 0:15:02 | 0:15:04 | |
So you've got the knack, huh? | 0:15:06 | 0:15:08 | |
LIZ SPEAKS AFRIKAANS | 0:15:08 | 0:15:10 | |
Ahh! | 0:15:10 | 0:15:12 | |
-I'm feeding a hippo... Uh! -There you are. | 0:15:14 | 0:15:17 | |
This is hilarious. | 0:15:17 | 0:15:18 | |
LIZ SPEAKS AFRIKAANS | 0:15:18 | 0:15:21 | |
Hi, hon. Oh, my gosh, she's so pretty. | 0:15:23 | 0:15:26 | |
TONIE SPEAKS AFRIKAANS | 0:15:26 | 0:15:28 | |
She wants to go out now. | 0:15:30 | 0:15:31 | |
'When she's finished eating, she goes on her way. | 0:15:33 | 0:15:35 | |
'Tonie, an ex-game ranger, has enough experience | 0:15:40 | 0:15:43 | |
'to know not to try and stop her.' | 0:15:43 | 0:15:45 | |
You read the signs, didn't you, Tonie? | 0:15:45 | 0:15:47 | |
You were like, "Right, she wants to go out, | 0:15:47 | 0:15:49 | |
-"there's no keeping her in." -Yes. | 0:15:49 | 0:15:51 | |
Cos at the end of the day, you do see her as a wild animal still? | 0:15:51 | 0:15:54 | |
I see Jessica as a wild animal, I don't keep her in. | 0:15:54 | 0:15:57 | |
I do whatever she wants to do. | 0:15:57 | 0:15:59 | |
Can we be out with her here? Or do we let her be? | 0:15:59 | 0:16:01 | |
Er, not at the moment, let her just sort her thing out there. | 0:16:01 | 0:16:04 | |
Although Jessica is happy to let me feed her from behind the counter, | 0:16:04 | 0:16:08 | |
she's still capable of charging if I get too close. | 0:16:08 | 0:16:12 | |
She lives a normal hippo life but she has a life with us as well. | 0:16:12 | 0:16:17 | |
She goes to them, they come to her. | 0:16:17 | 0:16:19 | |
She lives a normal life. | 0:16:19 | 0:16:21 | |
So she still goes out with the wild hippos further down the river? | 0:16:21 | 0:16:24 | |
That's correct, and upstream as well. | 0:16:24 | 0:16:26 | |
So do you think this beauty is going to be able to | 0:16:26 | 0:16:31 | |
mate with wild male hippos and have a calf of her own? | 0:16:31 | 0:16:34 | |
Do you think that's possible? | 0:16:34 | 0:16:36 | |
I don't think it's possible, Jessica WILL mate. | 0:16:36 | 0:16:39 | |
-You know it's possible! -It WILL happen. | 0:16:39 | 0:16:42 | |
Within two years, Jessica will have a calf of her own | 0:16:42 | 0:16:44 | |
and I will contact you and invite you to come down again | 0:16:44 | 0:16:47 | |
and you'll see her with a little calf here. | 0:16:47 | 0:16:49 | |
-You'd better. -I'm confident of that. -I need to see this young lady with a calf. | 0:16:49 | 0:16:53 | |
-JESSICA SNORTS -I think she agrees! | 0:16:53 | 0:16:56 | |
Jess! | 0:16:56 | 0:16:58 | |
It seems that Jessica imprinted on Tonie and Shirley | 0:16:59 | 0:17:03 | |
when she appeared on their river bank just after she was born | 0:17:03 | 0:17:06 | |
and that's why she's still so attached to them, | 0:17:06 | 0:17:09 | |
even as a 13-year-old adult hippo. | 0:17:09 | 0:17:12 | |
Our next story is of a human/animal bond that seems to be | 0:17:18 | 0:17:22 | |
something completely different, as they were both fully grown | 0:17:22 | 0:17:25 | |
when they met in Los Angeles, California. | 0:17:25 | 0:17:27 | |
'I've come here to meet Dominic Erhler. | 0:17:31 | 0:17:33 | |
'Three years ago he was befriended by a goose named Maria.' | 0:17:33 | 0:17:38 | |
Hello. | 0:17:40 | 0:17:41 | |
LIZ CHUCKLES | 0:17:43 | 0:17:45 | |
Did you get a good night's sleep? OK. | 0:17:46 | 0:17:49 | |
'Maria always seems pleased to see him...' | 0:17:49 | 0:17:52 | |
How are you? You going to take a walk? | 0:17:52 | 0:17:54 | |
They're going to have a little moment by themselves. | 0:17:54 | 0:17:56 | |
Ba-ba-ba. Want to meet my friends? | 0:17:56 | 0:18:00 | |
Hi. | 0:18:00 | 0:18:01 | |
'..but is a little less enamoured of strangers.' | 0:18:01 | 0:18:03 | |
-Hello. -Maria's going to check you out. | 0:18:03 | 0:18:05 | |
That's fine, you can check me out all you like. | 0:18:05 | 0:18:08 | |
The secret is just to stand there until Maria gets a sense of you. | 0:18:08 | 0:18:12 | |
What a cutie. The crew need checking out too, you know. | 0:18:15 | 0:18:19 | |
Kaa-kaa. Come on. | 0:18:22 | 0:18:24 | |
She definitely listens to you, doesn't she? | 0:18:26 | 0:18:28 | |
'Maria didn't always live here in the zoo. | 0:18:28 | 0:18:31 | |
'Up until two years ago, Maria's home was a park in central LA | 0:18:31 | 0:18:35 | |
'where Dominic used to go for his regular morning walk.' | 0:18:35 | 0:18:38 | |
So how did you first meet? | 0:18:38 | 0:18:40 | |
I'm walking around Echo Park lake, I'm just about finished | 0:18:40 | 0:18:45 | |
and coming in to leave | 0:18:45 | 0:18:46 | |
and one of the park employees by the office | 0:18:46 | 0:18:48 | |
taps me on the shoulder and says, "Hey, Dominic, | 0:18:48 | 0:18:51 | |
"you know you're being stalked when you're walking around the lake?" | 0:18:51 | 0:18:54 | |
And I said, "Like, what are you talking about?" | 0:18:54 | 0:18:57 | |
cos this is a big city park, | 0:18:57 | 0:18:58 | |
there's gangs and stuff hanging around. | 0:18:58 | 0:19:00 | |
So he points to this goose about 50 feet away | 0:19:00 | 0:19:03 | |
and he just says, "Her name's Maria." | 0:19:03 | 0:19:05 | |
He laughed, he thought it was funny, but I looked at Maria | 0:19:05 | 0:19:08 | |
and Maria was just glaring at me, just glaring at me, | 0:19:08 | 0:19:11 | |
and I just waved and said, "Hi, Maria. How you doing, Maria?" | 0:19:11 | 0:19:15 | |
And I thought it was kind of cute. I left. | 0:19:15 | 0:19:18 | |
I came back the next morning and Maria came right to me, | 0:19:18 | 0:19:21 | |
right in front of me | 0:19:21 | 0:19:22 | |
and just looked up so innocently and I just fell in love just like that. | 0:19:22 | 0:19:27 | |
You were my friend and within a matter of just a few days from her | 0:19:27 | 0:19:31 | |
circling around me as I go, she took the lead position, | 0:19:31 | 0:19:34 | |
so Maria would always walk in front, leading the way. | 0:19:34 | 0:19:37 | |
The pair quickly became inseparable. | 0:19:39 | 0:19:41 | |
When you fall in love with a goose, | 0:19:46 | 0:19:47 | |
you've got to be aware of what you're getting involved with. | 0:19:47 | 0:19:50 | |
Their loyalty is phenomenal. Remember they bond for life. | 0:19:50 | 0:19:54 | |
So I basically feel like I have a certain sense of responsibility. | 0:19:54 | 0:19:58 | |
For the local residents, they became something of a celebrity couple. | 0:20:05 | 0:20:09 | |
'One time we had 100 people marching behind us | 0:20:09 | 0:20:12 | |
'as we were walking around the lake' | 0:20:12 | 0:20:13 | |
and we're singing Maria songs and it became such a festive thing, | 0:20:13 | 0:20:17 | |
it was really remarkable. | 0:20:17 | 0:20:18 | |
Maria was like the Michael Jackson of the goose world. | 0:20:18 | 0:20:21 | |
In 2011, the park authorities decided to drain Echo Park lake, | 0:20:26 | 0:20:31 | |
part of a two-year renovation programme. | 0:20:31 | 0:20:34 | |
For her safety and survival, Maria was moved to the zoo... | 0:20:35 | 0:20:39 | |
..where staff soon discovered that she may have been misnamed. | 0:20:41 | 0:20:45 | |
We did a little Valentine's thing on one of the local TV channels | 0:20:45 | 0:20:49 | |
or something, it was a perfect relationship, | 0:20:49 | 0:20:51 | |
an unusual relationship, a man and a goose, Dominic and Maria. | 0:20:51 | 0:20:55 | |
And I think like a week or two after that, the head vet here | 0:20:55 | 0:20:58 | |
calls me up and humorously says, | 0:20:58 | 0:20:59 | |
"Hey, Dominic, you've got a problem," and I said, "What's that?" | 0:20:59 | 0:21:02 | |
He says, "Well, your girlfriend's a boy." | 0:21:02 | 0:21:04 | |
'So Maria became Mario.' | 0:21:07 | 0:21:10 | |
Oh, Mario! | 0:21:10 | 0:21:11 | |
-Is he showing off? -He's showing off. | 0:21:11 | 0:21:13 | |
'But the bond is as strong as ever.' | 0:21:13 | 0:21:16 | |
You visit him every day, is that right? | 0:21:16 | 0:21:19 | |
Every day. It's part of my daily schedule. | 0:21:19 | 0:21:21 | |
I love coming up here and hearing him, you know. | 0:21:21 | 0:21:23 | |
It's nice to have an animal wag its tail and go ka-ka-ka, it's great. | 0:21:23 | 0:21:28 | |
That's the great thing about animals, | 0:21:28 | 0:21:30 | |
they want to be our friends. Right, Mario? | 0:21:30 | 0:21:32 | |
But why did Mario want to be Dominic's friend? | 0:21:35 | 0:21:38 | |
Geese are well known for being a species that imprints. | 0:21:41 | 0:21:45 | |
In fact, they were the first animals scientists studied | 0:21:45 | 0:21:47 | |
when they were trying to understand the phenomenon. | 0:21:47 | 0:21:50 | |
But Dominic definitely wasn't | 0:21:52 | 0:21:54 | |
the first thing Mario saw when he hatched. | 0:21:54 | 0:21:56 | |
Dominic suspects that Mario was a domestic goose that had been | 0:21:59 | 0:22:03 | |
abandoned at the lake, and so was looking for a new companion. | 0:22:03 | 0:22:07 | |
And he found me. | 0:22:08 | 0:22:10 | |
And he determined I'm always safe to be with. | 0:22:10 | 0:22:13 | |
When he's with me, he feels safe. | 0:22:13 | 0:22:16 | |
He knows I'm one of him. | 0:22:16 | 0:22:18 | |
Jason believes that even though Mario didn't imprint on Dominic, | 0:22:19 | 0:22:23 | |
those crucial few hours for the goose | 0:22:23 | 0:22:25 | |
after it hatched were significant. | 0:22:25 | 0:22:27 | |
Imprinting has what's called a sensitive period, | 0:22:29 | 0:22:33 | |
so many hours, 13-16 hours or so after birth, | 0:22:33 | 0:22:36 | |
and then it gets locked in. | 0:22:36 | 0:22:38 | |
So that sort of representation | 0:22:38 | 0:22:40 | |
of what Mum is supposed to look like doesn't change. | 0:22:40 | 0:22:43 | |
So you imprint and that's your representation for the rest of your life. | 0:22:43 | 0:22:46 | |
For the rest of your life, you know what Mum looks like. | 0:22:46 | 0:22:48 | |
OK, but Mario met Dominic when it was already an adult goose, | 0:22:48 | 0:22:52 | |
so what does that suggest? | 0:22:52 | 0:22:54 | |
So it's possible... If this is a case of imprinting, it's possible | 0:22:54 | 0:22:57 | |
that Mario imprinted onto someone who looked a lot like Dominic | 0:22:57 | 0:23:01 | |
when he was very young | 0:23:01 | 0:23:03 | |
and Dominic may have certain facial characteristics, | 0:23:03 | 0:23:06 | |
or colour of his hair, or the shape of his facial hair, whatever, | 0:23:06 | 0:23:10 | |
something that Mario recognises as familiar. | 0:23:10 | 0:23:13 | |
Mario has found in Dominic a companion he can rely on. | 0:23:15 | 0:23:19 | |
And like all geese, he's protective of what he's got. | 0:23:19 | 0:23:22 | |
His little nips are getting a little stronger every time! | 0:23:22 | 0:23:25 | |
That's OK. When he attacks someone, | 0:23:25 | 0:23:28 | |
it's not so much that he's trying to attack them to defend me, | 0:23:28 | 0:23:33 | |
but really he's trying to keep me. In other words, I'm his property. | 0:23:33 | 0:23:37 | |
-Ow! -So if you would see his behaviour, | 0:23:37 | 0:23:40 | |
he was basically showing all the other geese, | 0:23:40 | 0:23:44 | |
"Keep your distance, this is mine." | 0:23:44 | 0:23:46 | |
Any goose that would get near, there'd be feathers flying. | 0:23:46 | 0:23:48 | |
That's where he would show the most aggressiveness. | 0:23:48 | 0:23:51 | |
Ow, ow, ow, ow, ow! | 0:23:51 | 0:23:53 | |
We're never going to find out exactly what happened | 0:23:57 | 0:24:00 | |
in the early stages of Mario's life, | 0:24:00 | 0:24:02 | |
but my money's on the fact that | 0:24:02 | 0:24:04 | |
he probably did imprint on an elderly gentlemen | 0:24:04 | 0:24:07 | |
that looks suspiciously like Dominic over there. | 0:24:07 | 0:24:10 | |
It just goes to show how strong an influence | 0:24:10 | 0:24:13 | |
your early life experiences will have | 0:24:13 | 0:24:15 | |
on how you behave as an adult. | 0:24:15 | 0:24:17 | |
So the early life of an animal plays a huge role | 0:24:21 | 0:24:24 | |
in how it might bond with us. | 0:24:24 | 0:24:27 | |
That first human it sees or lives with | 0:24:27 | 0:24:30 | |
will impact on how it behaves in later life. | 0:24:30 | 0:24:33 | |
But in the next stage of my journey, I'm going to meet three people | 0:24:34 | 0:24:38 | |
who have managed to form lasting relationships with | 0:24:38 | 0:24:41 | |
the most unpredictable animals by becoming part of the pack. | 0:24:41 | 0:24:44 | |
Here at this privately-owned wildlife park | 0:24:50 | 0:24:52 | |
in South Africa, the staff are using a unique method | 0:24:52 | 0:24:56 | |
to try and inspire the public to care more about animals. | 0:24:56 | 0:24:59 | |
Or Lazmi has managed to integrate herself | 0:25:02 | 0:25:05 | |
with not one, but four lions. | 0:25:05 | 0:25:08 | |
She's known these animals since they were cubs | 0:25:12 | 0:25:15 | |
and she's so confident they'll be well behaved, that at this park | 0:25:15 | 0:25:19 | |
they'll even allow people into the enclosure with them. | 0:25:19 | 0:25:22 | |
(This is bonkers.) | 0:25:25 | 0:25:26 | |
'It's a controversial set-up, even though | 0:25:30 | 0:25:33 | |
'there's always other members of her team keeping watch.' | 0:25:33 | 0:25:36 | |
Hi. | 0:25:36 | 0:25:37 | |
'But I'm intrigued to know how this relationship works | 0:25:43 | 0:25:46 | |
'and what she does to keep her lions in check.' | 0:25:46 | 0:25:48 | |
I've got to say, I never thought I'd get this close | 0:25:50 | 0:25:53 | |
to male lions in my life... | 0:25:53 | 0:25:55 | |
Do I say hello or do I just stand here? | 0:25:59 | 0:26:02 | |
I can't see his eyes... | 0:26:03 | 0:26:06 | |
Nah, you can say hello, he's being good. | 0:26:06 | 0:26:08 | |
-Do I let him smell my hand or...? -Yes. | 0:26:08 | 0:26:10 | |
'The fact that she needs to see their eyes | 0:26:10 | 0:26:13 | |
'points to just how unpredictable these animals can be.' | 0:26:13 | 0:26:16 | |
I like feeling your breath on my hand, that's nice. | 0:26:18 | 0:26:20 | |
You can touch him now, that's fine. | 0:26:20 | 0:26:22 | |
Hi, Joseph. So three males. | 0:26:22 | 0:26:24 | |
-And one female. -One female over there. | 0:26:24 | 0:26:27 | |
-You know them very well, I take it...from this behaviour! -Yeah. | 0:26:27 | 0:26:31 | |
What does he want to do with his paw there, to kind of hold on to my arm? | 0:26:31 | 0:26:36 | |
He's looking to play. He's a bit too big for that, though. | 0:26:36 | 0:26:39 | |
You want to play? Yeah, you're a little bit bigger than me, dude. | 0:26:39 | 0:26:42 | |
These lions are just 17 months old, | 0:26:43 | 0:26:46 | |
but they are big enough to do some serious damage if they choose to. | 0:26:46 | 0:26:50 | |
Obviously, if I was in here without you...? | 0:26:50 | 0:26:52 | |
That would be a totally different story. | 0:26:52 | 0:26:55 | |
That's why it is important to us to remember they are wild animals | 0:26:55 | 0:26:58 | |
so their instincts can stay there. | 0:26:58 | 0:27:00 | |
When they are younger, we take them on walks around the park and... | 0:27:00 | 0:27:03 | |
CLATTERING OVERHEAD | 0:27:03 | 0:27:06 | |
That's Judith. | 0:27:06 | 0:27:07 | |
We have a very strong bond with this group. | 0:27:08 | 0:27:12 | |
How is it possible that you can have such a close relationship | 0:27:12 | 0:27:18 | |
with essentially wild animals? | 0:27:18 | 0:27:21 | |
We respect them as wild animals to start off with, | 0:27:21 | 0:27:25 | |
I think that's one of the key points. | 0:27:25 | 0:27:28 | |
We don't train them, we don't do anything like that, | 0:27:28 | 0:27:32 | |
so we basically need to earn their trust and respect. | 0:27:32 | 0:27:36 | |
They've known me as a constant dominant figure in their lives | 0:27:36 | 0:27:39 | |
since they were babies | 0:27:39 | 0:27:41 | |
and that's why I'm able to go so up close to them now. | 0:27:41 | 0:27:44 | |
So you're mentioning a dominant figure, | 0:27:44 | 0:27:46 | |
-which means that hierarchy is at play here? -Of course. | 0:27:46 | 0:27:50 | |
-Understanding how these animals normally behave in the wild? -Yes. | 0:27:50 | 0:27:53 | |
So where are you in the pecking order | 0:27:53 | 0:27:56 | |
and how do you establish that with lions, albeit in captivity? | 0:27:56 | 0:28:01 | |
I think it's just because we've been there since they were babies | 0:28:01 | 0:28:05 | |
and I've always been the grown-up, | 0:28:05 | 0:28:07 | |
so I'm stronger in their eyes, I think. | 0:28:07 | 0:28:10 | |
And obviously they needed to have a figure that will put them | 0:28:10 | 0:28:13 | |
back in place and they are put back in place when they misbehave. | 0:28:13 | 0:28:16 | |
How do you learn how to do that? How did you...? | 0:28:16 | 0:28:18 | |
Just from interacting with them. | 0:28:18 | 0:28:20 | |
Over time, you learn their behaviour, | 0:28:20 | 0:28:22 | |
you learn to read their looks and mood swings | 0:28:22 | 0:28:25 | |
and their different personalities. | 0:28:25 | 0:28:27 | |
And then, as a human, you need to understand those | 0:28:27 | 0:28:29 | |
in order not to get a swipe taken out of you? | 0:28:29 | 0:28:31 | |
-He got me... -Did he, what happened? -..not too long ago. | 0:28:31 | 0:28:34 | |
It was a really hot day and he picked up on me feeling weaker | 0:28:34 | 0:28:39 | |
and he grabbed me for a second, | 0:28:39 | 0:28:42 | |
nothing serious but I have a nice little scratch. | 0:28:42 | 0:28:44 | |
-And a few minutes later, I fainted. -Whoa! | 0:28:44 | 0:28:47 | |
So he was obviously able to pick up on it before it happened. | 0:28:47 | 0:28:50 | |
So I should not be feeling a little bit weak right now | 0:28:50 | 0:28:53 | |
-or a little bit scared. -Preferably not. | 0:28:53 | 0:28:55 | |
-I need to let them know I'm not feeling threatened... -Of course. | 0:28:55 | 0:28:58 | |
-..because instinctively then they could react on that? -Yes. | 0:28:58 | 0:29:00 | |
Jeepers, I wish I'd been told that before, | 0:29:00 | 0:29:03 | |
but hopefully I'm good to go. | 0:29:03 | 0:29:05 | |
After you telling me that anecdote about you feeling weak, | 0:29:05 | 0:29:08 | |
I'm feeling a little bit more, "Oh! So..." | 0:29:08 | 0:29:10 | |
He knows what he's allowed and not allowed to do. | 0:29:10 | 0:29:13 | |
And he's definitely trying now. | 0:29:13 | 0:29:15 | |
He's not lying down now cos he's tired. | 0:29:15 | 0:29:16 | |
He's trying to get closer to you. | 0:29:16 | 0:29:18 | |
No, I'm aware of this. I'm aware of this. Try to just breathe. | 0:29:18 | 0:29:22 | |
THEY LAUGH | 0:29:22 | 0:29:23 | |
What do you get out of this relationship, | 0:29:23 | 0:29:26 | |
out of being so close with these lions? | 0:29:26 | 0:29:29 | |
I just feel privileged, every single day you don't get used to it. | 0:29:29 | 0:29:33 | |
Big ones or small ones, it's just an animal you need to appreciate | 0:29:33 | 0:29:38 | |
and we definitely do. | 0:29:38 | 0:29:40 | |
Or has clearly grown attached to these lions, | 0:29:47 | 0:29:50 | |
but if things go according to plan, | 0:29:50 | 0:29:52 | |
she won't have this relationship with them for ever. | 0:29:52 | 0:29:56 | |
The staff at the park are planning a very ambitious | 0:29:58 | 0:30:00 | |
and untested project, to do something that most people | 0:30:00 | 0:30:04 | |
would consider impossible. | 0:30:04 | 0:30:07 | |
They want to release these hand-reared lions into the wild | 0:30:07 | 0:30:10 | |
when they're older. | 0:30:10 | 0:30:12 | |
I was under the impression that if any individuals are for release, | 0:30:13 | 0:30:17 | |
that you must have absolutely no contact with them. | 0:30:17 | 0:30:19 | |
That's what we're hoping to prove wrong because you have right now | 0:30:19 | 0:30:23 | |
in South Africa, more lions in captivity then in the wild, | 0:30:23 | 0:30:27 | |
so if we can take the animals from this situation and prove that you | 0:30:27 | 0:30:31 | |
can turn them wild again, then we can be saving quite a few of them. | 0:30:31 | 0:30:35 | |
We believe it's possible and we believe our intimate | 0:30:35 | 0:30:40 | |
knowledge of these ones will help us achieve that goal. | 0:30:40 | 0:30:43 | |
And hopefully they'll be our first ambassadors. | 0:30:43 | 0:30:46 | |
They're amazing animals, they really are. | 0:30:46 | 0:30:48 | |
They're perfect. | 0:30:48 | 0:30:49 | |
By behaving in a dominant manner, Or has found a way to sit | 0:30:50 | 0:30:54 | |
amongst lions, but as we're only just beginning to understand | 0:30:54 | 0:30:58 | |
these unpredictable animals, I'd rather not repeat my experience | 0:30:58 | 0:31:02 | |
any time soon. | 0:31:02 | 0:31:04 | |
The next person I'm meeting has had to find even more unusual | 0:31:10 | 0:31:14 | |
methods to make sure his companion knows who's boss. | 0:31:14 | 0:31:17 | |
This odd couple live in the heart of Texas, near the town of Quinlan. | 0:31:20 | 0:31:24 | |
And they consist of a tonne of buffalo named Wildthing... | 0:31:29 | 0:31:32 | |
..and his owner, a retired rodeo cowboy called RC Bridges. | 0:31:35 | 0:31:39 | |
Ten years ago, RC lost his sight in one eye, | 0:31:48 | 0:31:51 | |
forcing him to give up running his buffalo ranch. | 0:31:51 | 0:31:54 | |
He sold his herd but decided to keep one of the calves, | 0:31:56 | 0:31:59 | |
whose mother had struggled to suckle him. | 0:31:59 | 0:32:02 | |
And it wasn't long before the young calf's behaviour | 0:32:03 | 0:32:06 | |
led to RC calling him Wildthing. | 0:32:06 | 0:32:08 | |
Are you seriously...? | 0:32:20 | 0:32:21 | |
Luckily, RC knows how to calm Wildthing down. | 0:32:30 | 0:32:34 | |
Do you ever get a little bit nervous going in with him? | 0:32:38 | 0:32:41 | |
-Not at all. -No? You're totally used to it now? | 0:32:41 | 0:32:43 | |
I don't think he'd hurt me, if he does hurt me, it'd be an accident. | 0:32:43 | 0:32:47 | |
Really, you're that sure of your relationship with him. | 0:32:47 | 0:32:51 | |
I'm positive. | 0:32:51 | 0:32:52 | |
How on earth is it possible for you to even be in here with this | 0:32:52 | 0:32:56 | |
huge animal? | 0:32:56 | 0:32:57 | |
Lots of training. Lot of hours. | 0:32:58 | 0:33:01 | |
-If I was to come in with you what would happen? -He'd attack you. | 0:33:01 | 0:33:04 | |
Oh, good lord. What do I do with my hands right now? | 0:33:04 | 0:33:07 | |
Just don't put them in here. | 0:33:07 | 0:33:08 | |
That's a good rule. He likes to be brushed? | 0:33:10 | 0:33:13 | |
Oh, he loves brushing | 0:33:13 | 0:33:14 | |
and the rougher you get, the better he likes it. | 0:33:14 | 0:33:17 | |
Now, RC, it is a domesticated buffalo. | 0:33:17 | 0:33:20 | |
-You'll never domesticate a buffalo. -Really? | 0:33:20 | 0:33:23 | |
No, they're a wild animal. | 0:33:23 | 0:33:25 | |
This one is probably a little more dangerous for you than a wild one, | 0:33:25 | 0:33:28 | |
-because he would probably go out of his way to get you. -Why? | 0:33:28 | 0:33:31 | |
On my property. | 0:33:31 | 0:33:33 | |
Now, if we're on somebody else's property, | 0:33:33 | 0:33:35 | |
he probably won't bother you. | 0:33:35 | 0:33:36 | |
Buffalo live in large herds and will aggressively defend themselves | 0:33:39 | 0:33:43 | |
and members of their group when threatened. | 0:33:43 | 0:33:46 | |
But they also battle within the herd for status, with a strict | 0:33:47 | 0:33:51 | |
hierarchy at play and only the top males getting a chance to mate. | 0:33:51 | 0:33:55 | |
As RC found out, this jostling for position starts | 0:33:56 | 0:34:00 | |
when they are very young. | 0:34:00 | 0:34:02 | |
When he was a baby, every morning, I'd get up and he would attack me. | 0:34:03 | 0:34:08 | |
So I told my wife, I've tried all my cattle tricks, | 0:34:09 | 0:34:12 | |
I've tried all my horse tricks and nothing's working. | 0:34:12 | 0:34:14 | |
I said I'm going to get up in the morning, | 0:34:14 | 0:34:16 | |
I don't care how much he kicks me and how much he horns me, | 0:34:16 | 0:34:19 | |
I'm going to act like nothing's happening. | 0:34:19 | 0:34:21 | |
I was bruised up from the one end to the other, | 0:34:21 | 0:34:24 | |
but by the end of the day, and it took me the whole day, by the | 0:34:24 | 0:34:27 | |
end of the day, he was bored, then he wanted to get everybody but me. | 0:34:27 | 0:34:32 | |
OK, so it was almost sort of like, eventually | 0:34:32 | 0:34:35 | |
he just gave up on beating you around the place, but also you know | 0:34:35 | 0:34:38 | |
they do live in very strict linear hierarchies, so does that mean he | 0:34:38 | 0:34:42 | |
eventually saw you as the dominant male and that's why he gave up? | 0:34:42 | 0:34:45 | |
Oh, I'm the dominant male, yeah. | 0:34:45 | 0:34:47 | |
How do you establish dominance over buffalo? How do you maintain that? | 0:34:47 | 0:34:51 | |
Er, by not having fear, you can't have any fear in you. | 0:34:51 | 0:34:56 | |
I don't have a choice about being the dominant one. | 0:34:56 | 0:34:58 | |
If I'm not the dominant one, I'm in trouble. | 0:34:58 | 0:35:00 | |
So, you've established dominance so we know that in herds, | 0:35:00 | 0:35:03 | |
linear hierarchies... | 0:35:03 | 0:35:06 | |
Don't do that, you understand me? | 0:35:06 | 0:35:09 | |
Go ahead. | 0:35:11 | 0:35:12 | |
He scared the bejeezus out of me just now. | 0:35:12 | 0:35:15 | |
Maintaining dominance over a calf was hard enough, but now that | 0:35:18 | 0:35:22 | |
Wildthing weighs over a tonne, RC wouldn't survive a beating, | 0:35:22 | 0:35:27 | |
so he's had to find new ways to remind Wildthing who's the boss. | 0:35:27 | 0:35:31 | |
If Wildthing's out here tearing up the gate | 0:35:31 | 0:35:34 | |
and trying to get through it, | 0:35:34 | 0:35:36 | |
he can't get out most of the time. | 0:35:36 | 0:35:38 | |
I can go over there and open it with one hand. I unlock it, | 0:35:38 | 0:35:42 | |
and he thinks I'm really strong. | 0:35:42 | 0:35:45 | |
Because he might have been there an hour or two trying to get through | 0:35:45 | 0:35:48 | |
that gate but I go over there and I just do it like there's nothing | 0:35:48 | 0:35:52 | |
to it, and he really believes, he'll look at me and he'll go, wow! | 0:35:52 | 0:35:55 | |
I can grab him by the horns and he thinks I got him. | 0:35:57 | 0:36:01 | |
You know I don't have him but he thinks I have him. | 0:36:01 | 0:36:04 | |
Oh, good lord. | 0:36:04 | 0:36:05 | |
This is where I'm dominant right here, | 0:36:05 | 0:36:07 | |
they don't like their horns messed with. | 0:36:07 | 0:36:09 | |
It is amazing that you can achieve that and even touch him | 0:36:09 | 0:36:13 | |
the way that you just did, without him retaliating. | 0:36:13 | 0:36:20 | |
I can't help but think that every time he rams the gate, | 0:36:20 | 0:36:23 | |
it's like you are hogging too much of my time with RC, back off. | 0:36:23 | 0:36:28 | |
He has a lot of love. | 0:36:28 | 0:36:30 | |
I would never have thought this type of animal could feel love, | 0:36:30 | 0:36:34 | |
but he feels love. | 0:36:34 | 0:36:36 | |
He's a spectacular animal, there's no question. | 0:36:36 | 0:36:38 | |
And like if he's in the house and he needs to go to the bathroom, | 0:36:38 | 0:36:41 | |
he'll go to the door. | 0:36:41 | 0:36:42 | |
-If he's in the what?! -If he's in the house. | 0:36:42 | 0:36:45 | |
He goes into your house?! | 0:36:45 | 0:36:47 | |
Yeah, if he's in the house and needs to go to the bathroom, | 0:36:47 | 0:36:49 | |
he won't use the bathroom in the house. | 0:36:49 | 0:36:52 | |
I need to see this. | 0:36:52 | 0:36:54 | |
-Go for it, open the gate. -If you have to, shut the door. | 0:36:58 | 0:37:02 | |
This is definitely the most stupid thing I've ever done. Ever. | 0:37:06 | 0:37:09 | |
This is insane. | 0:37:11 | 0:37:13 | |
He's definitely coming in the house! | 0:37:18 | 0:37:20 | |
Oh, my gosh. | 0:37:20 | 0:37:23 | |
Oh, my gosh. Mind yourself. | 0:37:23 | 0:37:26 | |
That is hilarious. | 0:37:31 | 0:37:32 | |
He could still reach up to me and sniff me, you know. | 0:37:32 | 0:37:36 | |
Oh! I'm a little bit scared. | 0:37:36 | 0:37:40 | |
Wow! He's got really beautiful eyes. | 0:37:49 | 0:37:54 | |
I can't get over how gentle he is with everything, RC. | 0:37:54 | 0:37:58 | |
Well, that's what amazes me about him, because I didn't teach him | 0:37:58 | 0:38:02 | |
to be gentle, he just happens to be real gentle in the house | 0:38:02 | 0:38:06 | |
and very aggressive and very mean on the outside of the house. | 0:38:06 | 0:38:10 | |
Does this all boil down to territory? | 0:38:10 | 0:38:12 | |
The paddock is his territory and he knows that you, | 0:38:12 | 0:38:15 | |
this is your territory, and you're the dominant male | 0:38:15 | 0:38:18 | |
so he needs to be respectful of that? | 0:38:18 | 0:38:19 | |
-Is that how it works with buffalo? -I think that's what it is. | 0:38:19 | 0:38:22 | |
I think when he's in the house | 0:38:22 | 0:38:24 | |
he knows this is my area and he needs to respect my area. | 0:38:24 | 0:38:28 | |
CLATTERING OUTSIDE | 0:38:28 | 0:38:29 | |
I heard something get knocked over, you see, | 0:38:29 | 0:38:32 | |
so the minute he went outside again, he was trashing the place! | 0:38:32 | 0:38:36 | |
Can I follow you, or is that too dangerous? | 0:38:36 | 0:38:38 | |
You can follow me as long as I can be between you. | 0:38:38 | 0:38:41 | |
-Are you sure? -Mm-hm. | 0:38:41 | 0:38:42 | |
You never taught him | 0:38:42 | 0:38:44 | |
to be potty-trained, for want of a better expression? | 0:38:44 | 0:38:47 | |
I have no clue how you would potty train a buffalo! | 0:38:47 | 0:38:52 | |
But, see, you got to realise | 0:38:52 | 0:38:54 | |
he knows that everything I do is for him. | 0:38:54 | 0:38:57 | |
I'd never do anything that's against him. | 0:38:57 | 0:39:00 | |
It's always for his protection or for his happiness. | 0:39:00 | 0:39:03 | |
He's an exceptional buffalo. | 0:39:03 | 0:39:06 | |
Then he's going to come in here and eat with me. Come on. | 0:39:06 | 0:39:08 | |
OK, he's following him with the food. | 0:39:08 | 0:39:10 | |
Oh, you got to have a look at this. | 0:39:11 | 0:39:13 | |
I never would have thought that I would see such a huge, | 0:39:21 | 0:39:25 | |
powerful, unpredictable animal | 0:39:25 | 0:39:29 | |
behave so gingerly in a home. | 0:39:29 | 0:39:31 | |
All the ornaments around, he sniffs gently. | 0:39:33 | 0:39:36 | |
He's literally tiptoeing around RC's home. | 0:39:36 | 0:39:39 | |
It's just completely surreal to watch. | 0:39:39 | 0:39:43 | |
RC manages to maintain | 0:39:46 | 0:39:48 | |
a bizarre appearance of domestic bliss with Wildthing. | 0:39:48 | 0:39:51 | |
Spending time watching TV. | 0:39:53 | 0:39:54 | |
Mowing the lawn. | 0:39:57 | 0:39:58 | |
And even going for a swim with him. | 0:40:02 | 0:40:04 | |
And because Wildthing thinks RC is the dominant male | 0:40:08 | 0:40:11 | |
in his little herd, | 0:40:11 | 0:40:13 | |
it certainly looks like he'll always tread softly around him. | 0:40:13 | 0:40:16 | |
Strong leadership can enable you | 0:40:18 | 0:40:21 | |
to maintain a close bond with some unpredictable animals. | 0:40:21 | 0:40:24 | |
But I've come to South Africa to meet a man who's worked his way | 0:40:27 | 0:40:31 | |
into an incredibly sophisticated animal hierarchy | 0:40:31 | 0:40:34 | |
by doing it the animal's way. | 0:40:34 | 0:40:37 | |
I want to find out what he's learnt about animal behaviour from | 0:40:37 | 0:40:41 | |
his close interactions with some of the most intimidating animals yet. | 0:40:41 | 0:40:45 | |
Hyenas. | 0:40:47 | 0:40:48 | |
Renowned for their brutal, scavenging ways, | 0:40:51 | 0:40:53 | |
hyenas can weigh twice as much as an adult wolf. | 0:40:53 | 0:40:57 | |
So I'm quite relieved to have a cage between me | 0:41:01 | 0:41:04 | |
and this clan of spotted hyenas. | 0:41:04 | 0:41:07 | |
There's a whole load of stuff going on right here. Jeepers! | 0:41:08 | 0:41:13 | |
Wow! | 0:41:13 | 0:41:14 | |
HYENA GROWLS LOUDLY | 0:41:16 | 0:41:18 | |
Hi! | 0:41:20 | 0:41:21 | |
Oh! You know what? | 0:41:21 | 0:41:24 | |
It is easy to see how hyenas can be a little bit unnerving. | 0:41:24 | 0:41:29 | |
I mean, they're built for power | 0:41:29 | 0:41:31 | |
with their strange top-heavy postures, | 0:41:31 | 0:41:35 | |
and when you think about their high-pitched screeches and laughs | 0:41:35 | 0:41:39 | |
and the way they scavenge aggressively, | 0:41:39 | 0:41:41 | |
they can seem quite sly and cunning, | 0:41:41 | 0:41:45 | |
but actually, all of these traits | 0:41:45 | 0:41:49 | |
point to a highly intelligent animal. | 0:41:49 | 0:41:52 | |
SHE LAUGHS | 0:41:52 | 0:41:53 | |
And that's why what Kevin Richardson does is all the more surprising. | 0:41:58 | 0:42:03 | |
Kevin has worked with large predators | 0:42:04 | 0:42:07 | |
for most of his adult life, | 0:42:07 | 0:42:09 | |
but a few years ago, he set up his own private reserve | 0:42:09 | 0:42:12 | |
so that he could fully integrate himself into this clan of hyenas. | 0:42:12 | 0:42:16 | |
He did this to study their behaviour | 0:42:18 | 0:42:19 | |
and change people's perceptions of what is a much feared animal. | 0:42:19 | 0:42:23 | |
The hyenas live in a large enclosure, | 0:42:25 | 0:42:28 | |
but they're far from tame. | 0:42:28 | 0:42:29 | |
These animals have a very complex and fluid social structure, | 0:42:31 | 0:42:35 | |
all governed by dominance | 0:42:35 | 0:42:37 | |
and how each one finds its place in the pecking order. | 0:42:37 | 0:42:40 | |
If Kevin isn't careful, there's always an individual | 0:42:42 | 0:42:45 | |
that'll try and get one over on him. | 0:42:45 | 0:42:47 | |
How on earth did this come about, | 0:42:48 | 0:42:50 | |
this relationship that you clearly have with these hyenas? | 0:42:50 | 0:42:53 | |
My career actually started with hyenas quite a long time ago. | 0:42:53 | 0:42:56 | |
You know, they became my passion, and pretty much, yeah, | 0:42:56 | 0:43:00 | |
I wanted to know everything about them. | 0:43:00 | 0:43:02 | |
Let's just let them get over their whole thing. | 0:43:02 | 0:43:05 | |
Is this important for you to keep an eye on this? | 0:43:05 | 0:43:07 | |
Yes, very important, cos they are dominating this individual. | 0:43:07 | 0:43:10 | |
They're trying to get him away. | 0:43:10 | 0:43:14 | |
And he's... His posture is submissive there? | 0:43:14 | 0:43:17 | |
Yeah, he's submissive, which is good. He's fine. | 0:43:17 | 0:43:20 | |
I didn't notice anything different and immediately you're chatting away | 0:43:20 | 0:43:23 | |
and you stop. OK, something has changed. | 0:43:23 | 0:43:25 | |
-Did you learn from your mistakes? -I've learnt the hard way. | 0:43:25 | 0:43:28 | |
-Did you? -Yes. With hyenas, it's always the hard way. | 0:43:28 | 0:43:31 | |
They react, they bite you, and then they ask questions later. | 0:43:31 | 0:43:34 | |
Let's put it into perspective for you. | 0:43:34 | 0:43:37 | |
I've been working with large carnivores for 15 years. | 0:43:37 | 0:43:40 | |
I've been hospitalised five times by hyena, and none by lion. | 0:43:40 | 0:43:45 | |
I got bitten very badly about six weeks ago. | 0:43:45 | 0:43:49 | |
The one hyena thought it was a good opportunity to try and jostle | 0:43:49 | 0:43:53 | |
for status in this clan, so he went for me in a very aggressive way. | 0:43:53 | 0:43:58 | |
Bit me on my arm and my leg and that triggered the rest of the clan | 0:43:58 | 0:44:02 | |
to want to participate in the whole thing. | 0:44:02 | 0:44:06 | |
There's probably a reason why | 0:44:06 | 0:44:08 | |
a lot of people around the world don't work with these guys! | 0:44:08 | 0:44:11 | |
HE LAUGHS | 0:44:11 | 0:44:12 | |
I wanted to ask you about where they see you in their clan. | 0:44:12 | 0:44:16 | |
Are you a hyena in their eyes? | 0:44:16 | 0:44:17 | |
Their behaviour with me as treating me as an individual | 0:44:17 | 0:44:20 | |
in their clan, is exactly how they treat one another. | 0:44:20 | 0:44:24 | |
And that's why I get my fair share of bites, | 0:44:24 | 0:44:27 | |
because they don't hold back. | 0:44:27 | 0:44:29 | |
So why on earth would you want to do this | 0:44:29 | 0:44:31 | |
when you are aware that it can be dangerous? | 0:44:31 | 0:44:33 | |
What I feel is, the risk has actually been mitigated | 0:44:33 | 0:44:36 | |
over the years by knowing the individuals | 0:44:36 | 0:44:38 | |
and by no means do I just say, "Hey, I'm the Hyena Whisperer, | 0:44:38 | 0:44:41 | |
"I can go in with any hyena group and do what I do with these guys." | 0:44:41 | 0:44:44 | |
This is a relationship that's been developing | 0:44:44 | 0:44:47 | |
with some individuals over 14 years. | 0:44:47 | 0:44:48 | |
-Uh-huh. -Where you going? No, you're not going there. | 0:44:48 | 0:44:52 | |
Don't leave him yet. Stay for the cameras! | 0:44:52 | 0:44:54 | |
See, now, that's just ridiculous. | 0:44:54 | 0:44:57 | |
Look at that teddy bear. | 0:44:57 | 0:44:58 | |
I mean, come on, it's like you are behaving with him | 0:44:58 | 0:45:00 | |
like he's a dog, you know? | 0:45:00 | 0:45:02 | |
Well, once all the energy dissipates, | 0:45:02 | 0:45:04 | |
and once they're OK with you guys, and they've smelt you out, | 0:45:04 | 0:45:08 | |
they see that you're not a threat and they've calmed down, | 0:45:08 | 0:45:11 | |
these animals are just... | 0:45:11 | 0:45:12 | |
It's incredible what you can do with them. This guy... | 0:45:12 | 0:45:16 | |
He desperately wants his chin scratched, I can see that. | 0:45:16 | 0:45:19 | |
Kevin has worked very hard to earn the hyenas' trust | 0:45:21 | 0:45:25 | |
and it allows him to play with them in a way | 0:45:25 | 0:45:27 | |
I never thought was possible. | 0:45:27 | 0:45:29 | |
But even this time spent playing together | 0:45:29 | 0:45:32 | |
gives him a chance to learn about their social structure, | 0:45:32 | 0:45:36 | |
and how he can maintain his position within it. | 0:45:36 | 0:45:39 | |
OK, so all this kind of thing that I'm doing here | 0:45:39 | 0:45:43 | |
is asserting my dominance. | 0:45:43 | 0:45:45 | |
It does look like play, | 0:45:45 | 0:45:48 | |
but he's also feeling that I'm not submitting to something HE does. | 0:45:48 | 0:45:53 | |
I'm actually playing with him in a dominant way. | 0:45:53 | 0:45:56 | |
So, I'm doing things to him that he wouldn't normally allow | 0:45:56 | 0:46:00 | |
other individuals do to him who he was more dominant of. | 0:46:00 | 0:46:07 | |
So, it is interesting. | 0:46:07 | 0:46:09 | |
I'm using affection, | 0:46:09 | 0:46:11 | |
cos he's coming to me for love, and a tickle, and a chin scratch, | 0:46:11 | 0:46:14 | |
and all of the above, but... | 0:46:14 | 0:46:17 | |
I'm dominating him. | 0:46:17 | 0:46:18 | |
And I'm not hitting him. | 0:46:18 | 0:46:20 | |
I don't have to. It's a bit of a psychological game. | 0:46:20 | 0:46:24 | |
What do you get out of it, then? | 0:46:24 | 0:46:26 | |
Why were you driven to do this with these hyenas? | 0:46:26 | 0:46:29 | |
Well, I'll tell you what, | 0:46:29 | 0:46:31 | |
this is enriching for me, as it is for them. | 0:46:31 | 0:46:33 | |
I mean, the fact that I'm tickling this hyena on his chin, | 0:46:33 | 0:46:36 | |
-and I'm using him as a resting post... -It's bonkers, Kevin! | 0:46:36 | 0:46:38 | |
Yeah, it's awesome. | 0:46:38 | 0:46:40 | |
And don't get me wrong, I still get a kick out of seeing my buddies, | 0:46:40 | 0:46:43 | |
however, the other thing that I really hope it does, | 0:46:43 | 0:46:47 | |
is it shows people a different side of them, | 0:46:47 | 0:46:50 | |
and hopefully people watching a programme like this | 0:46:50 | 0:46:52 | |
would go away and say, "You know what? | 0:46:52 | 0:46:55 | |
"I never knew hyenas were like that. I actually like them. | 0:46:55 | 0:46:58 | |
"They're actually very similar to my dog, in a way." | 0:46:58 | 0:47:01 | |
It's fascinating watching you interacting with | 0:47:01 | 0:47:04 | |
these kinds of animals that, as you said, | 0:47:04 | 0:47:06 | |
do have such a creepy reputation, a fearsome reputation, | 0:47:06 | 0:47:08 | |
and they are absolutely docile with you, and so affectionate, | 0:47:08 | 0:47:12 | |
and they don't seem to mind at all. It's quite surreal to watch that. | 0:47:12 | 0:47:16 | |
Yeah, come, boy! He's fine. | 0:47:16 | 0:47:18 | |
You just let me know when at any point something like this is | 0:47:18 | 0:47:21 | |
just... I cannot believe I'm that close to a hyena. | 0:47:21 | 0:47:23 | |
No, that's fine, he's completely fine. | 0:47:23 | 0:47:25 | |
I know you're a captive hyena, but this is ridiculous. | 0:47:25 | 0:47:27 | |
It's thrilling for me. I can't believe I am so close to one. | 0:47:27 | 0:47:31 | |
And they are so gentle. | 0:47:31 | 0:47:33 | |
Hello, can I touch noses with you? | 0:47:33 | 0:47:35 | |
Hello. | 0:47:37 | 0:47:38 | |
Ah, come on. | 0:47:38 | 0:47:40 | |
-You're seeing the good side. -Oh, I really am. | 0:47:42 | 0:47:45 | |
I don't want to be lulled into a false sense of security, | 0:47:45 | 0:47:47 | |
but you are just adorable right now. | 0:47:47 | 0:47:49 | |
Kevin has an extraordinary relationship with these hyenas. | 0:47:53 | 0:47:57 | |
By combining his knowledge of each individual and their position | 0:47:57 | 0:48:01 | |
in the hierarchy, and with his ability to assert his dominance | 0:48:01 | 0:48:04 | |
where needed, it seems that Kevin has truly become one of the gang. | 0:48:04 | 0:48:09 | |
And in doing so, he's proving that hyenas are not as intimidating | 0:48:09 | 0:48:13 | |
as many people would have you believe. | 0:48:13 | 0:48:16 | |
There is definitely another side to these animals. | 0:48:17 | 0:48:22 | |
They are incredibly gentle. | 0:48:22 | 0:48:25 | |
I get a real feeling of affection from this particular one, | 0:48:26 | 0:48:30 | |
who is liking a good back of the ear scratch right now, | 0:48:30 | 0:48:34 | |
but they are also quite timid, they are quite shy. | 0:48:34 | 0:48:37 | |
Some of them, when they approach the cage, | 0:48:37 | 0:48:39 | |
their eyes are really wide and they approach very cautiously. | 0:48:39 | 0:48:43 | |
But, every now and then, they will bear their canines again. | 0:48:43 | 0:48:47 | |
I guess that's another instinctual behaviour to remind me, | 0:48:47 | 0:48:50 | |
"Hey, I'm quite fearsome, too, you know. I'm quite tough." | 0:48:50 | 0:48:55 | |
But they are fantastic animals, | 0:48:55 | 0:48:57 | |
and you really get a sense of their individual personalities. | 0:48:57 | 0:49:02 | |
This is just thrilling. | 0:49:02 | 0:49:05 | |
It really is. | 0:49:05 | 0:49:06 | |
The nature of the human/animal couples I've met so far | 0:49:12 | 0:49:16 | |
is complex, but the people involved are attempting to fulfil | 0:49:16 | 0:49:20 | |
a very human instinct to care for others, find companions, | 0:49:20 | 0:49:24 | |
and better understand the world around us. | 0:49:24 | 0:49:27 | |
But to find out what we can learn from looking | 0:49:29 | 0:49:32 | |
at all these odd couples, I'm speaking to Professor Hal Herzog, | 0:49:32 | 0:49:36 | |
who has studied human/animal relationships | 0:49:36 | 0:49:38 | |
for more than two decades. | 0:49:38 | 0:49:40 | |
What do you think we can learn about cross species | 0:49:41 | 0:49:45 | |
relationships in all their shapes and sizes? | 0:49:45 | 0:49:47 | |
I think what they tell us is the commonality that we have | 0:49:47 | 0:49:52 | |
with other species, that, at a deep level, | 0:49:52 | 0:49:54 | |
animals have the same sorts of abilities to form relationships, | 0:49:54 | 0:49:59 | |
to form attachments, to play, | 0:49:59 | 0:50:02 | |
and they have the same abilities that we have. | 0:50:02 | 0:50:04 | |
The bottom line for me is this... | 0:50:04 | 0:50:06 | |
I think, in our relationships with other species, | 0:50:06 | 0:50:11 | |
what we see is a reflection of human nature - | 0:50:11 | 0:50:15 | |
in some ways, its purest form. | 0:50:15 | 0:50:18 | |
And the best of human nature and the worst of human nature. | 0:50:18 | 0:50:21 | |
That, to me, is the thing that is really fascinating | 0:50:21 | 0:50:24 | |
about this whole area of study. | 0:50:24 | 0:50:26 | |
There is one last partnership I want to investigate, | 0:50:28 | 0:50:32 | |
because, for me, it truly reflects the best | 0:50:32 | 0:50:35 | |
of what the human/animal bond can be like. | 0:50:35 | 0:50:38 | |
Not only do both sides benefit, | 0:50:38 | 0:50:40 | |
but here, wild animals have chosen to instigate a relationship with us. | 0:50:40 | 0:50:45 | |
I've travelled all the way to the south of Brazil, | 0:50:47 | 0:50:49 | |
and the coastal town of Laguna, | 0:50:49 | 0:50:52 | |
to see it for myself. | 0:50:52 | 0:50:54 | |
Here in this inlet on the Atlantic coast, | 0:50:56 | 0:50:59 | |
the locals have formed a relationship, over many generations, | 0:50:59 | 0:51:03 | |
with one specific group of wild dolphins. | 0:51:03 | 0:51:06 | |
'The dolphins help the fishermen catch their fish. | 0:51:07 | 0:51:11 | |
'In fact, the fishermen in this bay don't even throw their nets | 0:51:11 | 0:51:16 | |
'unless the dolphins are present.' | 0:51:16 | 0:51:18 | |
It just looks so odd. A whole bunch of men, | 0:51:18 | 0:51:21 | |
standing in their waders, doing absolutely nothing, | 0:51:21 | 0:51:25 | |
just standing there. | 0:51:25 | 0:51:27 | |
There's a dolphin. | 0:51:27 | 0:51:29 | |
SHE GASPS | 0:51:33 | 0:51:34 | |
So, there's two dolphins there, definitely surfacing, | 0:51:34 | 0:51:39 | |
but they are just standing there doing nothing, still. | 0:51:39 | 0:51:43 | |
This is extremely peculiar. | 0:51:43 | 0:51:45 | |
-LAUGHING: -What is going on?! | 0:51:48 | 0:51:51 | |
It makes me think that something's going to happen over here. | 0:51:51 | 0:51:55 | |
Oh! | 0:52:04 | 0:52:06 | |
Woosh! | 0:52:06 | 0:52:07 | |
That's amazing! | 0:52:09 | 0:52:11 | |
OK, OK, I'm beginning to get what's going on. | 0:52:16 | 0:52:19 | |
For one month of the year, schools of mullet migrate up the coast. | 0:52:19 | 0:52:24 | |
The dolphins herd the schools into the shoreline, | 0:52:24 | 0:52:28 | |
exactly where the fishermen are. | 0:52:28 | 0:52:31 | |
Then, at the right moment, the dolphins make a signal - | 0:52:31 | 0:52:35 | |
usually a distinctive dive - | 0:52:35 | 0:52:37 | |
and the fishermen throw their nets to catch the fish beneath. | 0:52:37 | 0:52:41 | |
It's absolutely clear that the dolphins are calling | 0:52:43 | 0:52:46 | |
the shots here, these lads are doing absolutely nothing, | 0:52:46 | 0:52:50 | |
they just stand there with their nets, | 0:52:50 | 0:52:52 | |
and it's only when the dolphin makes a very clear signal, | 0:52:52 | 0:52:55 | |
that they deploy them. | 0:52:55 | 0:52:57 | |
So, the dolphins are telling the fishermen how to fish. | 0:52:57 | 0:53:03 | |
That's novel. | 0:53:03 | 0:53:05 | |
And completely crazy. I've never seen anything like this. | 0:53:05 | 0:53:08 | |
This is the most intricate type of interaction | 0:53:08 | 0:53:13 | |
between two completely different species I have ever seen, | 0:53:13 | 0:53:18 | |
and it's just wonderful to watch, because the fishermen | 0:53:18 | 0:53:23 | |
are absolutely focused on getting their cue from a dolphin. | 0:53:23 | 0:53:29 | |
FISHERMEN CHEER | 0:53:29 | 0:53:32 | |
And they have fun while they're at it, don't they? | 0:53:33 | 0:53:36 | |
There's a fabulous energy on this beach. | 0:53:36 | 0:53:38 | |
They really enjoy working with the dolphin. | 0:53:38 | 0:53:42 | |
-Go! -SHE GIGGLES | 0:53:42 | 0:53:44 | |
With the help of the dolphins, these fishermen are extremely successful. | 0:53:46 | 0:53:50 | |
Just a few miles down the coast, the same mullet schools migrate, | 0:53:50 | 0:53:55 | |
but because no dolphins help the fishermen there, | 0:53:55 | 0:53:59 | |
they hardly catch any fish. | 0:53:59 | 0:54:01 | |
Here, the dolphins have developed a relationship | 0:54:02 | 0:54:05 | |
over generations that has resulted in a thriving local industry. | 0:54:05 | 0:54:10 | |
I meet up with local scientist Fabio Daura Jorge from the | 0:54:12 | 0:54:16 | |
University of Santa Catarina to find out exactly what's going on. | 0:54:16 | 0:54:21 | |
-This is such a surreal scene. -Yes. | 0:54:21 | 0:54:23 | |
There's a real energy to this, isn't there? | 0:54:23 | 0:54:26 | |
There's a dolphin. | 0:54:26 | 0:54:28 | |
That's Caroba. | 0:54:28 | 0:54:30 | |
Caroba. Is he a well known individual? | 0:54:30 | 0:54:32 | |
Yes, the most famous dolphin we have here. | 0:54:32 | 0:54:36 | |
Fabio, watching this from the shore, it is absolutely mind-boggling. | 0:54:36 | 0:54:40 | |
-Yeah, it's fascinating. -What exactly is going on here? | 0:54:40 | 0:54:43 | |
Yeah, actually, the dolphin are bringing the mullets | 0:54:43 | 0:54:46 | |
-close to the fishermen, so... -Is that what he's doing now? | 0:54:46 | 0:54:50 | |
Exactly, he's in the middle of the channel | 0:54:50 | 0:54:53 | |
and, probably, the mullet is here. | 0:54:53 | 0:54:54 | |
And when then the dolphin makes a specific signal, | 0:54:54 | 0:54:57 | |
the fishermen know that it's the right moment to throw the nets. | 0:54:57 | 0:55:00 | |
The fishermen are benefitting... | 0:55:09 | 0:55:11 | |
why on earth are the dolphins doing this? | 0:55:11 | 0:55:13 | |
We suspect that, when the fishermen throw the nets in the water, | 0:55:13 | 0:55:16 | |
he's also pushing the mullet to the dolphins. | 0:55:16 | 0:55:20 | |
Much easier for the dolphins to get the mullet. | 0:55:20 | 0:55:22 | |
When the net's descending, some mullet are inevitably escaping, | 0:55:22 | 0:55:25 | |
-and that's the bounty that the dolphin can enjoy. -Exactly. | 0:55:25 | 0:55:29 | |
So, it's a mutual, symbiotic relationship going on, | 0:55:29 | 0:55:32 | |
but dictated by the dolphin, right? | 0:55:32 | 0:55:34 | |
-I mean, they call the shots? -Exactly, exactly. | 0:55:34 | 0:55:37 | |
Yeah, come on, I want a go. I mean, how hard could it really be? | 0:55:39 | 0:55:43 | |
It's a bit slippy. | 0:55:47 | 0:55:49 | |
Put in your teeth. | 0:55:49 | 0:55:51 | |
-In my mouth? -Yeah. -What? | 0:55:51 | 0:55:53 | |
Dolphin! | 0:55:53 | 0:55:55 | |
Oh, I'm scared. | 0:55:57 | 0:55:59 | |
Go, go, go! | 0:55:59 | 0:56:01 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:56:02 | 0:56:04 | |
CHEERING | 0:56:04 | 0:56:05 | |
Thank you, thank you! | 0:56:05 | 0:56:07 | |
Autographs later. | 0:56:07 | 0:56:09 | |
I can't believe they cheered at that. That was utter rubbish. | 0:56:09 | 0:56:12 | |
-It was great. Good job. -Did I catch a mullet? | 0:56:12 | 0:56:15 | |
There is something so incredibly special going on here. | 0:56:19 | 0:56:24 | |
I mean, we've known for a long time that dolphins are intelligent, | 0:56:24 | 0:56:28 | |
and we have so many accounts of dolphin/human interactions | 0:56:28 | 0:56:31 | |
of all sorts, but this... | 0:56:31 | 0:56:34 | |
This dolphin/human interaction is very real and it's very genuine, | 0:56:34 | 0:56:39 | |
and it's incredibly complex on both sides. | 0:56:39 | 0:56:42 | |
There's a whole series of intricate behavioural cues going on, | 0:56:42 | 0:56:47 | |
and these are wild dolphins. | 0:56:47 | 0:56:49 | |
They've chosen to come here and form a relationship with these fishermen. | 0:56:49 | 0:56:55 | |
That's mind-blowing. | 0:56:55 | 0:56:57 | |
I've been on a remarkable journey in these two programmes | 0:57:05 | 0:57:08 | |
and I've encountered relationships between different species | 0:57:08 | 0:57:12 | |
that have truly amazed me. | 0:57:12 | 0:57:14 | |
Many of them have been formed as a result of powerful, natural | 0:57:16 | 0:57:20 | |
instincts that seem to endure no matter what the circumstances. | 0:57:20 | 0:57:23 | |
Or they've come about through a growing understanding | 0:57:25 | 0:57:28 | |
some people have of the animal kingdom. | 0:57:28 | 0:57:31 | |
And what's clear is that animals relate to one another - and to us - | 0:57:34 | 0:57:38 | |
in a far more complex way than was previously thought possible. | 0:57:38 | 0:57:43 | |
But it's also been an extraordinary reminder of how compelled | 0:57:43 | 0:57:48 | |
we humans are to have animals in our lives. | 0:57:48 | 0:57:51 | |
I think the reason why we are so fascinated by other animals | 0:57:51 | 0:57:55 | |
could be down to the fact that, | 0:57:55 | 0:57:57 | |
in all these unfamiliar shapes and sizes, | 0:57:57 | 0:57:59 | |
in all these different species, we recognise familiar traits | 0:57:59 | 0:58:03 | |
and behaviours, and I think that's what feeds our fascination | 0:58:03 | 0:58:06 | |
and compels us to want to know more. | 0:58:06 | 0:58:09 | |
So, if we are lucky enough to share | 0:58:09 | 0:58:12 | |
a mutualistic bond with another species... | 0:58:12 | 0:58:16 | |
So, two animals that took billions of years to evolve, | 0:58:16 | 0:58:19 | |
finding a common ground, | 0:58:19 | 0:58:21 | |
respectful of each other, even communicating with each other... | 0:58:21 | 0:58:24 | |
Well, that's pretty remarkable, isn't it? | 0:58:24 | 0:58:27 | |
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