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What do all these very average-looking men have in common? | 0:00:03 | 0:00:07 | |
That's right, they are all dictators. | 0:00:07 | 0:00:10 | |
And that means they love power, they hate journalists like me, | 0:00:10 | 0:00:14 | |
and they are, quite frankly, ridiculous. | 0:00:14 | 0:00:17 | |
I'm on a journey to three former Soviet Union countries to find out | 0:00:17 | 0:00:22 | |
what makes some of the world's most powerful tyrants tick. | 0:00:22 | 0:00:25 | |
I'm going to see the good... | 0:00:25 | 0:00:26 | |
the bad...and the completely mental | 0:00:26 | 0:00:29 | |
about living under a dictatorship. | 0:00:29 | 0:00:32 | |
This programme contains some strong language | 0:00:32 | 0:00:39 | |
This time, Belarus. | 0:00:44 | 0:00:46 | |
The country is next door to Poland, slap bang between the EU and Russia. | 0:00:46 | 0:00:50 | |
It's been ruled since 1994 by President Alexander Lukashenko. | 0:00:55 | 0:00:59 | |
So, what does it take to be a Belarussian dictator? | 0:01:01 | 0:01:04 | |
Well, you've got to look the part. And, of course, | 0:01:04 | 0:01:07 | |
that means a military uniform even if, like Luka, | 0:01:07 | 0:01:10 | |
you've only ever done National Service. | 0:01:10 | 0:01:13 | |
If you're ever doing any sport, you'll need a huge, adoring audience. | 0:01:13 | 0:01:17 | |
And showing that your goons aren't scared of hurting people is essential. | 0:01:23 | 0:01:27 | |
In fact, Luka's managed to pass himself off as such an alpha male | 0:01:27 | 0:01:31 | |
he can even get away with watching this. | 0:01:31 | 0:01:34 | |
So, I'm on my way to Belarus. | 0:01:34 | 0:01:36 | |
I want to give you a little taste of what's to come, | 0:01:36 | 0:01:39 | |
and I'm going to do that by showing you a video. | 0:01:39 | 0:01:42 | |
It features this man, who is the German Foreign Minister, happens to be gay... | 0:01:42 | 0:01:45 | |
..and the guy who runs Belarus. | 0:01:48 | 0:01:50 | |
And there you have it. | 0:01:55 | 0:01:57 | |
The key rule of dictatorship, Belarussian style. | 0:01:57 | 0:01:59 | |
Don't be gay. | 0:01:59 | 0:02:01 | |
It's going to be a fun trip. | 0:02:01 | 0:02:02 | |
Getting into these countries is hard, | 0:02:04 | 0:02:05 | |
so we told authorities we were making a travel programme, | 0:02:05 | 0:02:08 | |
and none of the interviewees would know it was actually a series | 0:02:08 | 0:02:11 | |
about dictatorships. For their safety and mine. | 0:02:11 | 0:02:14 | |
So, I'm on the way to Alexandria, | 0:02:14 | 0:02:17 | |
which is the actual birthplace of Lukashenko himself. | 0:02:17 | 0:02:20 | |
And although we have filming permissions in Belarus, | 0:02:20 | 0:02:22 | |
things get a bit more precarious here due to the fact that this is | 0:02:22 | 0:02:25 | |
the place he was born. So, not entirely sure how things are going to work out, | 0:02:25 | 0:02:28 | |
or even if we'll be able to film at all. | 0:02:28 | 0:02:31 | |
'When we got to Alexandria, | 0:02:31 | 0:02:33 | |
'we were allowed to continue as long as we had someone official with us.' | 0:02:33 | 0:02:36 | |
Hi, I'm Benjamin. | 0:02:37 | 0:02:38 | |
Under Larisa's watchful eye, we headed for the big man's home village. | 0:02:40 | 0:02:46 | |
It isn't actually the village he was born in, | 0:02:46 | 0:02:48 | |
this is the village he was raised in. | 0:02:48 | 0:02:50 | |
The village he was born in is over a bridge somewhere but we're not allowed | 0:02:50 | 0:02:53 | |
to go there because it doesn't look quite as nice as this one, so this | 0:02:53 | 0:02:56 | |
is the place they want to show us. | 0:02:56 | 0:02:58 | |
'First stop, Lukashenko's old school.' | 0:02:58 | 0:03:00 | |
'Ah, so sweet. | 0:03:19 | 0:03:21 | |
'A nice family lad. | 0:03:21 | 0:03:22 | |
'Nothing to suggest he likes locking up his opponents.' | 0:03:22 | 0:03:25 | |
Are people very proud who live here, because this is the home of Lukashenko? | 0:03:25 | 0:03:29 | |
But apparently there is a short cut to becoming more like him. | 0:03:51 | 0:03:54 | |
Lukashenko's often talked about a magic spring in the woods. | 0:03:57 | 0:04:01 | |
I read somewhere that he believes that the fact that he drank from | 0:04:02 | 0:04:06 | |
this spring is the reason that he then became the man he is today, | 0:04:06 | 0:04:09 | |
and even President. | 0:04:09 | 0:04:11 | |
Is that true? | 0:04:11 | 0:04:12 | |
So, here's some locals actually drinking some of the sacred water right now. | 0:04:23 | 0:04:28 | |
'Supposedly people come from across the country just to drink | 0:04:28 | 0:04:32 | |
'from the spring that Lukashenko drank from.' | 0:04:32 | 0:04:34 | |
I'm just wondering why you drink this water. | 0:04:34 | 0:04:36 | |
'But to really tap into the essence of tough guy Lukashenko, | 0:04:40 | 0:04:44 | |
'to get the full benefit of the spring of eternal manliness, | 0:04:44 | 0:04:48 | |
'I've heard you have to bathe in it.' | 0:04:48 | 0:04:50 | |
It looks like the pit of death. | 0:04:51 | 0:04:53 | |
Oh, my goodness gracious me. | 0:04:55 | 0:04:58 | |
It's actually minus two degrees Celsius. | 0:04:58 | 0:05:00 | |
Why am I doing this? Why am I doing this? | 0:05:00 | 0:05:03 | |
All right, just remind yourself | 0:05:03 | 0:05:06 | |
Belarussian men do it, they are big and strong, | 0:05:06 | 0:05:10 | |
I want to be big and strong, too. | 0:05:10 | 0:05:13 | |
Oh... | 0:05:13 | 0:05:14 | |
Right, sometimes people exaggerate for television. | 0:05:14 | 0:05:17 | |
This is not one of those times. | 0:05:17 | 0:05:18 | |
This is absolutely fucking freezing. | 0:05:18 | 0:05:21 | |
All right, here we go. | 0:05:21 | 0:05:23 | |
HE PANTS | 0:05:23 | 0:05:24 | |
I can feel it. | 0:05:32 | 0:05:33 | |
I can feel the energy... | 0:05:34 | 0:05:35 | |
Oh, no, that's hypothermia. | 0:05:35 | 0:05:38 | |
That's what that is! | 0:05:38 | 0:05:39 | |
'I felt like a changed man.' | 0:05:39 | 0:05:41 | |
Oh, God. | 0:05:41 | 0:05:43 | |
Look at my nipples. They're about four inches long. | 0:05:43 | 0:05:46 | |
There we go, been in the spring, got the big man's quote on, | 0:05:48 | 0:05:53 | |
this is it. Never felt like more of a man in my life. | 0:05:53 | 0:05:56 | |
I headed to the home of Lukashenko's power, | 0:06:01 | 0:06:04 | |
Belarus's capital city, Minsk. | 0:06:04 | 0:06:06 | |
Doesn't feel like Europe's last dictatorship, I'll be honest. | 0:06:07 | 0:06:11 | |
There's loads of really fancy cafes, fancy perfume shops. | 0:06:11 | 0:06:15 | |
If I wasn't freezing my tits off right now I could well and truly be | 0:06:15 | 0:06:18 | |
in Italy or something. | 0:06:18 | 0:06:20 | |
Although it's a beautiful city, Brits hardly ever come here. | 0:06:21 | 0:06:24 | |
Most of us only hear about Belarus once a year. | 0:06:24 | 0:06:27 | |
# Solayoh, Solayoh | 0:06:27 | 0:06:30 | |
# Where the sun is always shining on ya! # | 0:06:30 | 0:06:33 | |
Hello, Europe! Minsk calling. | 0:06:33 | 0:06:36 | |
# Let's come together, so here is my hand... # | 0:06:36 | 0:06:39 | |
In the 2011 Eurovision Song Contest, | 0:06:39 | 0:06:41 | |
Anastacia Vinakova represented Belarus with this beauty. | 0:06:41 | 0:06:46 | |
# I love Belarus! Got it deep inside | 0:06:46 | 0:06:50 | |
# I love Belarus! Feel it in my mind... # | 0:06:50 | 0:06:53 | |
And guess what? I get to meet her. | 0:06:53 | 0:06:55 | |
Anything I've ever heard of Belarus, it always seems to be, like... | 0:06:55 | 0:06:59 | |
a kind of scary place, a place that no-one ever goes to. | 0:06:59 | 0:07:02 | |
Very Russian, very Soviet. | 0:07:02 | 0:07:05 | |
# I love Belarus! Got it deep inside | 0:07:22 | 0:07:25 | |
# I love Belarus! Feel it in my mind... # | 0:07:25 | 0:07:29 | |
I mean, some people in the West would think that you didn't have as | 0:07:29 | 0:07:33 | |
much freedom here, you didn't have as much free speech. | 0:07:33 | 0:07:35 | |
Is that true? | 0:07:35 | 0:07:37 | |
-Do you think most people like the system, here? -Yes. | 0:07:43 | 0:07:45 | |
It's true that there isn't much protesting here, | 0:07:49 | 0:07:52 | |
but maybe that's not surprising | 0:07:52 | 0:07:53 | |
because of what can happen if you do step out of line. | 0:07:53 | 0:07:56 | |
The secret police are famous for beating up protesters, | 0:07:56 | 0:07:59 | |
harassing journalists, and locking up opposition politicians. | 0:07:59 | 0:08:02 | |
This building behind me here is the secret service of Belarus. | 0:08:06 | 0:08:10 | |
Have to be a bit careful about filming here because we're not really meant to. | 0:08:10 | 0:08:13 | |
It's called the KGB, which, as you probably know, | 0:08:13 | 0:08:16 | |
was the name of the Soviet Union secret service, | 0:08:16 | 0:08:18 | |
which was infamous for being just ruthless in its search for information. | 0:08:18 | 0:08:22 | |
Killed people, basically snooped on the entire population. | 0:08:22 | 0:08:25 | |
No other former Soviet Union country still uses the name KGB | 0:08:25 | 0:08:30 | |
apart from Belarus. | 0:08:30 | 0:08:32 | |
I don't want to look at it because we'll get in trouble. | 0:08:34 | 0:08:37 | |
Despite his firm grip on power, | 0:08:39 | 0:08:41 | |
Lukashenko still doesn't take any chances. | 0:08:41 | 0:08:43 | |
He rigs his elections, | 0:08:45 | 0:08:46 | |
and doesn't really seem to care if the world knows about it. | 0:08:46 | 0:08:49 | |
Since taking power, | 0:09:01 | 0:09:02 | |
Lukashenko has rewritten the constitution so that he's pretty much free to | 0:09:02 | 0:09:06 | |
make any law he wants. | 0:09:06 | 0:09:08 | |
And he can more or less live out any fantasy he likes. | 0:09:08 | 0:09:12 | |
Ice hockey is his favourite sport, | 0:09:12 | 0:09:14 | |
and the Belarussian media regularly reports on his exploits on the ice. | 0:09:14 | 0:09:18 | |
He likes getting quality players together so he can pretend to be one of them. | 0:09:18 | 0:09:23 | |
And there he is, wearing the number 1 jersey. | 0:09:23 | 0:09:26 | |
You can probably guess what team usually wins. | 0:09:26 | 0:09:28 | |
Lukashenko's ploughed hundreds of millions of dollars into building | 0:09:30 | 0:09:34 | |
ice-hockey stadia around the country. | 0:09:34 | 0:09:36 | |
The biggest, right here in Minsk. | 0:09:36 | 0:09:38 | |
Wow! | 0:09:39 | 0:09:41 | |
This is most definitely the noisiest sport I have been to | 0:09:41 | 0:09:44 | |
for a long time. | 0:09:44 | 0:09:45 | |
Unnecessarily loud! | 0:09:45 | 0:09:48 | |
If there's one thing I knew about Luka, | 0:09:48 | 0:09:50 | |
it's that he doesn't like gay people. | 0:09:50 | 0:09:52 | |
So I wondered what it was like to be gay in Belarus. | 0:09:52 | 0:09:55 | |
'I'd met up with Oleg Rascov, a TV journalist who covers LGBT rights.' | 0:09:55 | 0:10:00 | |
'The station Oleg works for is banned in Belarus, | 0:10:15 | 0:10:18 | |
'so they have to broadcast from neighbouring Poland.' | 0:10:18 | 0:10:21 | |
I mean, it surely can't help that one of kind of Lukashenko's most | 0:10:21 | 0:10:25 | |
famous quotes is, "It's better to be a dictator than to be gay." | 0:10:25 | 0:10:29 | |
Yeah, yeah, absolutely. | 0:10:29 | 0:10:30 | |
-Really? -On these places. | 0:10:39 | 0:10:41 | |
Imagine, say, we are two gay guys | 0:10:53 | 0:10:56 | |
and all of these guys find out, | 0:10:56 | 0:10:59 | |
what would their reaction be? | 0:10:59 | 0:11:01 | |
-Really? -Yeah, yeah. | 0:11:08 | 0:11:09 | |
Lukashenko isn't the only local leader who appears to have enjoyed | 0:11:11 | 0:11:14 | |
the spring of eternal manliness. | 0:11:14 | 0:11:16 | |
Until recently, his closest ally was his neighbour and all-round | 0:11:16 | 0:11:20 | |
alpha male, Vladimir Putin in Russia. | 0:11:20 | 0:11:23 | |
But apparently, when Putin sent troops into Ukraine, | 0:11:23 | 0:11:26 | |
Belarus's neighbour, | 0:11:26 | 0:11:27 | |
poor old Luka got a little nervous that the same could happen to him. | 0:11:27 | 0:11:32 | |
DOG BARKS | 0:11:32 | 0:11:34 | |
So, all of a sudden, to make friends with Europe, | 0:11:34 | 0:11:37 | |
he started releasing political prisoners. | 0:11:37 | 0:11:40 | |
Hello. | 0:11:40 | 0:11:42 | |
Nice to meet you. 'On the outskirts of the city, | 0:11:42 | 0:11:44 | |
'I met up with someone who's spent more time in local cells than most.' | 0:11:44 | 0:11:48 | |
This is a big dog, is this to keep out the KGB? | 0:11:48 | 0:11:51 | |
Yes. | 0:11:51 | 0:11:53 | |
'At 28 years old, Pavel's been to jail 19 times. | 0:11:53 | 0:11:57 | |
'Once for more than eight months.' | 0:11:57 | 0:11:59 | |
Why become the face, you know, of a kind of opposition movement, | 0:12:01 | 0:12:06 | |
and make life difficult for yourself? | 0:12:06 | 0:12:08 | |
-Did you put this up because I was coming? -Yes! | 0:12:18 | 0:12:20 | |
-Only today. -'To try to keep smiling during his spells out of the cells, | 0:12:22 | 0:12:26 | |
'Pavel makes home-brewed spirits.' | 0:12:26 | 0:12:28 | |
So, this is basically medicine is what you're saying? | 0:12:41 | 0:12:43 | |
-Yes, yes, yes. -I will be cured of all my ailments? | 0:12:43 | 0:12:46 | |
Fantastic! | 0:12:46 | 0:12:47 | |
'Pavel became a minor celebrity in Belarus a couple of years ago when | 0:12:49 | 0:12:53 | |
'one of his protests landed him and his friends behind bars yet again.' | 0:12:53 | 0:12:57 | |
First tonight, a story that the government of Belarus doesn't want you to see. | 0:13:14 | 0:13:18 | |
The protest went international when a Swedish organisation, | 0:13:18 | 0:13:23 | |
in solidarity with Pavel, | 0:13:23 | 0:13:24 | |
flew into Belarussian airspace and dropped 1,000 teddy bears with | 0:13:24 | 0:13:28 | |
pro-democracy slogans. | 0:13:28 | 0:13:30 | |
Lukashenko was apparently terrified by the teddy-bear invasion. | 0:13:30 | 0:13:33 | |
He fired the head of his air force and expelled the Swedish ambassador. | 0:13:39 | 0:13:42 | |
This one looks a bit heavy! | 0:13:45 | 0:13:47 | |
'And his henchmen have kept an eye on Pavel ever since.' | 0:13:47 | 0:13:50 | |
Do you think we could be bugged right now? | 0:13:50 | 0:13:52 | |
I mean, it just sounds like a ridiculously stressful life. | 0:14:01 | 0:14:05 | |
'I was beginning to appreciate how all the moonshine | 0:14:17 | 0:14:20 | |
'could help take the stress out of Pavel's situation.' | 0:14:20 | 0:14:23 | |
I think I'm getting to the point where I'm off me tits. | 0:14:24 | 0:14:27 | |
"Off me tits?" | 0:14:27 | 0:14:29 | |
No... | 0:14:29 | 0:14:30 | |
He doesn't know! | 0:14:33 | 0:14:35 | |
Off my tits. | 0:14:36 | 0:14:37 | |
I know what is tits. | 0:14:37 | 0:14:40 | |
But I don't understand... | 0:14:40 | 0:14:41 | |
I am off my... | 0:14:41 | 0:14:43 | |
It's just a term. I don't know where it comes from, | 0:14:43 | 0:14:45 | |
I don't know the etymology, | 0:14:45 | 0:14:46 | |
but it is an accurate description of how I'm starting to feel, | 0:14:46 | 0:14:49 | |
do you know what I mean? Thank you very much for meeting me. | 0:14:49 | 0:14:52 | |
-It's a pleasure. -Good luck, hopefully I won't get arrested in about ten minutes. | 0:14:52 | 0:14:55 | |
All right, so I'm not going to lie to you, I am definitely a little bit | 0:14:57 | 0:15:00 | |
smashed, probably had about seven too many shots, but... | 0:15:00 | 0:15:05 | |
Yeah, meeting those guys was genuinely interesting. | 0:15:05 | 0:15:07 | |
I've spent, like, the first half of my trip here | 0:15:07 | 0:15:09 | |
thinking that it didn't really seem that bad, | 0:15:09 | 0:15:13 | |
the streets seemed quite normal | 0:15:13 | 0:15:15 | |
and it's quite a nice city centre, and then these guys have really | 0:15:15 | 0:15:18 | |
put it all into perspective. Once you go against the regime here, | 0:15:18 | 0:15:21 | |
once you go against Lukashenko, life changes for you, | 0:15:21 | 0:15:24 | |
and it changes very dramatically for the worse. | 0:15:24 | 0:15:27 | |
Back in the centre of town, | 0:15:31 | 0:15:33 | |
there was more evidence that Lukashenko might be lightening up a bit. | 0:15:33 | 0:15:35 | |
So, just round this corner is something I really did not expect to see in a dictatorship, | 0:15:38 | 0:15:42 | |
which is an opposition protest rally. | 0:15:42 | 0:15:45 | |
This is the anniversary of a referendum that Lukashenko held 20 years ago | 0:15:51 | 0:15:55 | |
to this day, which essentially allowed him to stay in power forever, | 0:15:55 | 0:15:58 | |
so this is what they see as the moment he became a dictator in this country. | 0:15:58 | 0:16:03 | |
The man everyone had come to see was Nikolai Stakovich, who was released | 0:16:11 | 0:16:15 | |
from prison a few months ago. | 0:16:15 | 0:16:18 | |
He spent four years in jail for daring to stand against Lukashenko | 0:16:18 | 0:16:22 | |
in the last presidential elections. | 0:16:22 | 0:16:24 | |
'I was beginning to feel a bit more positive about the state of Belarussian democracy.' | 0:16:28 | 0:16:33 | |
I would not expect this to be even allowed to happen. | 0:16:33 | 0:16:36 | |
'But then I looked a little closer. | 0:16:36 | 0:16:39 | |
'Instead of filming the speaker, | 0:16:39 | 0:16:40 | |
'a lot of the camera crews seemed to be filming the protesters.' | 0:16:40 | 0:16:43 | |
It's the KGB coming with cameras to basically get the protesters' faces | 0:16:44 | 0:16:48 | |
on camera, and also just to intimidate people. | 0:16:48 | 0:16:50 | |
And I think this guy behind me is doing that thing | 0:16:50 | 0:16:53 | |
and so I'm going to see what he's doing. | 0:16:53 | 0:16:56 | |
Excuse me? What's happening here? | 0:16:56 | 0:16:59 | |
Are you filming for the media? | 0:17:00 | 0:17:03 | |
-No comment. -No comment? | 0:17:03 | 0:17:04 | |
Filming for KGB... | 0:17:04 | 0:17:07 | |
Excuse me? Can I just ask you a quick question? | 0:17:07 | 0:17:10 | |
Are you filming us for the media or KGB? | 0:17:11 | 0:17:14 | |
What are you filming me for right now? | 0:17:15 | 0:17:18 | |
There's another guy to the left... right. Your left. | 0:17:18 | 0:17:22 | |
It is a bit weird and intimidating, I can imagine, | 0:17:24 | 0:17:27 | |
especially if you live here. Some random dude, won't talk to you, | 0:17:27 | 0:17:30 | |
sticks a camera in your face. | 0:17:30 | 0:17:32 | |
Wondering what's going on. | 0:17:32 | 0:17:33 | |
Is it possible to get an answer? | 0:17:34 | 0:17:37 | |
This is kind of awkward. | 0:17:38 | 0:17:39 | |
So the protest is pretty much over, | 0:17:40 | 0:17:42 | |
and the only people who remain are me and about 12 people from the KGB. | 0:17:42 | 0:17:46 | |
I'm not going to lie to you, I'm slightly pooing my pants, | 0:17:47 | 0:17:51 | |
and that was quite a small protest, | 0:17:51 | 0:17:53 | |
but I can kind of understand why you wouldn't want to go to one, mainly due to | 0:17:53 | 0:17:57 | |
the fact that there is a reasonable chance that afterwards you'll end up | 0:17:57 | 0:18:01 | |
in jail for two weeks, or quite simply just have the shit kicked out of you by the KGB. | 0:18:01 | 0:18:05 | |
My time in Belarus showed that Lukashenko is still a brutal authoritarian ruler. | 0:18:09 | 0:18:15 | |
But there are at least some signs of hope. | 0:18:15 | 0:18:17 | |
On the one hand, it's obviously not a blossoming democracy. | 0:18:18 | 0:18:22 | |
But on the other, it is going through a change, | 0:18:22 | 0:18:24 | |
is going through this period of liberalisation which, as you've seen, | 0:18:24 | 0:18:27 | |
means people can protest, they can speak out a bit more, | 0:18:27 | 0:18:30 | |
they're going to jail less, | 0:18:30 | 0:18:32 | |
but the question is whether that is like an actual concrete change, | 0:18:32 | 0:18:35 | |
and whether things are going to keep getting better, | 0:18:35 | 0:18:37 | |
and people keep getting freer, | 0:18:37 | 0:18:39 | |
or whether, at some point, everything will just go back to the way it always has been. | 0:18:39 | 0:18:43 | |
And I just don't know the answer to that. | 0:18:43 | 0:18:45 |