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sampling three of Scotland's most famous walks and talking to some

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colourful characters along the way. I love Scotland. I've been coming

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here for years ` walking, fishing, getting to know people and places. I

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always thought that Scotland and I got on just fine. But now I'm not so

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sure. This year on the 18th of September, the people of Scotland

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will decide whether to leave the UK and become an independent country. I

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want to understand what's going on. I can't help thinking that Scotland

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doesn't like the rest of the UK. But, if so, why? Anyway, because I'm

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passionate about Scotland, I've come here to find out what this

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referendum is all about. I'll be visiting places between here in the

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Scottish Borders and the north of Scotland, talking to locals, and

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canvassing their opinions about independence. But I'll be doing it

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my way. And that means walking. In fact, I'll be sampling three of

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Scotland's most famous trails. This should be quite a walk.

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The first of my three journeys is along the Southern Upland Way, which

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starts in the west, north of Portpatrick, and runs 212 miles

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right across the country to Cockburnspath. It's easy to see why

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this stunning landscape has inspired countless artists and writers over

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many centuries. But it conceals a dark history ` hinted at in English

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words which originated in the Borders like "blackmail" and

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"bereaved". Indeed, this region provided a haven for generations of

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cross`border reivers and smugglers. And, up until the Treaty of Union

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between Scotland and England in 1707, the Borders was a violent

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frontier between the two countries. Over the centuries, ownership passed

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between the warring factions numerous times. The Borders' bloody

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history makes me wonder if the locals dislike the English. And, if

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so, whether that sentiment will translate into votes for

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independence come September. Or does the Borderers' proximity to England

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make them more inclined to vote no? I'm meeting someone who's going to

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help me understand how the locals tick. Some walk you've done there.

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It's very windy. You know, Janet, it's really interesting that you

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decided to start your walk here in Cockburnspath, because this is where

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the Union really started. In 1503, which isn't a date you hear very

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much, this was all Crown land and James IV married Margaret Tudor,

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Henry VIII's sister. She was given Cockburnspath as part of a dowry.

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This was supposed to usher in an era of eternal peace and friendship

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between Scotland and England. And in Cockburnspath, if you go into the

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village, there's a cross which commemorates that. It's got thistles

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on two sides, roses on the other side, and it's a symbol of the union

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that didn't happen for another century and continues still today.

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This place has got a spirit and a character all of its own. They're a

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completely different breed of people, the Borderers. And it's not

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surprising. They've managed to ignore the fact that there is a

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border for so many years, but also use it to their advantage when they

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wanted to. I mean, these lands were completely lawless. There was no

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government north or south that could control them.

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The other thing about the Borders is that the border itself has shifted

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so many times. And if you speak to the people who

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live in the northern part of the English borders, they would quite

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like to join in with quite a lot of what Scotland has. They will look

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over the valley and say, "How come they get free higher education, free

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prescriptions, "free bus passes, and we're stuck in this Little England

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"that doesn't have these advantages? And yet the people north of the

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border look south and go, "Well, actually, you're our friends, we

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trade with you, "should we be separate?"

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From the point of view of the people currently living in the Borders, how

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would they take to being governed from Edinburgh?

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I'm sure they would see it as no different from being governed from

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London. It's one of the big things you hear down here, "Why should we

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be told what to do by someone who doesn't live here?" There's this

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independence`mindedness that they have.

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Have you thought about the vote and which way you're going to vote?

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I think, like so many people, I will decide the night before the polling

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happens. I don't think it will come down to the logic and the policies

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and all these things, because nobody knows what it's going to be like

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after the vote, whether it's yes or no. You cannot unboil an egg.

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I'm handing you the ballot paper and saying, Bruce, I want your cross,

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which box is it going to go in today?

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If it were today, I'd be voting yes. If you'd asked me last week, I'd

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have said the balance was no. And it might change again between now and

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September. Interesting. Bruce's dilemma has got me thinking about

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what the people I meet will base their decisions on. So, I'll be

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asking them in an entirely unscientific straw poll. Here in the

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Borders, for example, the population's link with the land is

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so strong, I wonder whether people will be casting their votes on the

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basis of patriotic fervour, economic interest or something else? I'm at

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Coldstream, where the River Tweed forms the border between Scotland

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and England. Like Gretna Green, it used to be a favoured destination

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for young couples eloping from England to get married. In a way, my

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visit concerns matrimony, too. I'm meeting a very successful farmer to

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find out if he'll be voting for Scotland to part from the rest of

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the UK or renew its vows in the referendum. From my point of view,

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currency worries me. Whether we're going to be able to have a single

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currency. Membership of the EU, that's a big question for us

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farming. In Scotland, our biggest market is England. To go and have a

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different currency and put up a trade barrier across the border

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wouldn't be very helpful for our industry. So that's a big worry. I

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think I would have to make an assessment at the time but I'm

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pretty happy with the situation we have at the moment and I think it

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would be the wrong thing to split the Union up.

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Anything that might make trading more difficult... You seem to be

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worried about the bureaucracy. Could there be more paperwork? We don't

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know. Even getting access to other countries... I have just filled in a

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visa waiver to go to America. Is that still going to exist? All of

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these things are concerns. My concerns is that when we are

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exporting, we cannot say, OK, we have our prices in pounds. We go out

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and do it in currencies. So if you go to Japan, you do it in Japanese

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yen. And the same in all the other countries. I don't know what we're

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going to base it on now. Are we going to have the pound? Are we

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going to have a monetary union that suits both countries? Or are we

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going to have a Scottish currency that can be devalued, and we don't

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have backup on that? Some people might say, "You work in

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a business that's strong. If it's that strong, surely it will survive

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anyway?" Obviously Scotland is not going to disappear if we vote yes.

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It's going to just be a transitional difficult time, I'm sure. How is

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that in the short term going to be affected? And what is the short

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term? It might be a period of years. That is very bad. A period of

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uncertainty is very bad for commercial businesses. But they've

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also recognised that in Scotland, and particularly this area, that we

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have skills that are doing extremely well, which are almost dead. Are you

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willing to tell me how you're going to vote? I'm worried about the

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uncertainty. I like the status we have now. And, like Hamish, I will

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actually go into that booth with an open mind. But at the moment I'm

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happier with the status that we are in. I haven't made up my mind yet

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because I want to hear all the arguments. I'm not hearing all the

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arguments at the moment. I'm getting one side that's blustering, the

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other side down south who are threatening. And I don't like any of

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that. At the end of the first section near

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the borders, where the main industries are textiles and farming,

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the overwhelming impression I got from people I talk to was no thanks.

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But that was just my impression. Now, I'm heading north, where I will

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be sampling a great walk through the central belt. I'm walking along the

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canal tow path. It runs for 35 miles between the River Falls near

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Grangemouth in the east and bowling near the Clyde in the West. The

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canal takes us through some of Scotland's's former industrial

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heartlands, now home to some of the most deprived communities. It's an

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area synonymous with rebirths and regeneration and one whose diverse

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electorate will pay a key part in deciding Scotland's future. ``

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play. The canal passes through Glasgow, Scotland's largest city. By

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the Victorian era, Glasgow was the second city of the British Empire.

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In the past 25 years, the city has transformed from a manufacturing

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powerhouse to a largely service sector economy. Glasgow's

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International financial services district, the so`called square

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kilometre, provides employment for around 15,000 people and it puts the

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city in the top 15 European financial centres. Call centres have

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become an integral part of the local economy, employing 20,000 people and

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earning Glasgow the tag of call centre capital of Europe. And

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Glasgow has become Britain's biggest shopping destination outside London,

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generating ?2.4 billion in sales and creating more than 150,000 jobs. In

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the early 1970s, the Conservative government began withdrawing state

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subsidy and closing down shipyards on the River Clyde. The policy

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precipitated a fight back by trade union activists, one that propelled

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their charismatic spokesman, Jimmy Reid, to international celebrity.

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They can do what they want but we will not accept redundancies. One

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year after he died in 2010, some of his supporters set up a left of

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centre organisation in his honour. Tell me more about this area. It

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seems to have had such a fantastic cast and it is such an important

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part of Scotland's history. It is tied up with our identity. We have

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so much pride in the fact that one in three of the world's vessels were

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built here. It was filled with people with good jobs. It was a

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proud community. And gradually, it has just died. Robin, what do you

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say the decline dates from? What really killed it was Thatcher. It

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was the monetary policy which meant that it just wasn't worth investing

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in industry any more and you could make massive returns gambling in the

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city of London. It took 30 years before people realised this was not

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working but by that point, Scotland suffered severely. We lost our

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entire industrial base. Do you think if Scotland vote yes, the people

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here stand a better chance of having their interest placed higher up the

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agenda? They would be happy to have their interest rates lower down the

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agenda that they have in written right now. This is not a good place

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to be a worker. Do you think the voters in this area holds the key to

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the referendum? If Britain is kicking Scotland, they will be

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kicking the workers. Rich people are voting no, the poor people are

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voting yes. The question is if the poor people will turn out. They are

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going to be no longer voting for two versions of the same thing in

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Westminster. They will vote for something different. If poor people,

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out and vote, Scotland will become independent. I had thought one

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reason for independence was the Scots were fed up with the English?

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Is it that simple? It has nothing to do with the English. One of my big

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proposals is that I suggest we build a new town in the north of Scotland

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and granted political asylum to anyone from England who wants to

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live here. It's not that we don't like you. They are not a part of our

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lives. The Six O'clock News that we see coming up from London might as

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well be coming from France. It's not about the English. It's absolutely

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not. Well, that is retold then. When I started my journey, I was

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concerned that the referendum was Scotland's way of telling England

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they don't like us. Back in Glasgow, Robin assured me that was not the

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case. But I'm not convinced the message has got through to the

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playwright I'm meeting next in his hometown, Falkirk.

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that will be on the Edinburgh fringe a month before the referendum. I

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wanted to do political theatre. It is political propaganda. I know

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where you are coming from from how do you sell the idea of an

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independent Scotland outside Scotland? `` from your badge. We

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think you are doing it because you don't like us. I can see how it

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might look like that, because if you are not part of the debate happening

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in Scotland, which is a very deep and immersive and diverse one, it

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looks like this thing that has erupted from nowhere that, you must

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do it because you don't like us. For us, it is about democracy. It is

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about controlling our economy and deciding on our government and the

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future our country takes. We can't do that. My walk through the

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industrial heartland of Scotland has been very different. Not least,

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because, according to make not very scientific poll, people were more

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positive towards the idea of independence. I have the impression

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the Central Belt will be critical in deciding the outcome of the

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referendum. And, that the vote of the working class is vital. I will

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finish my walk in north`east Scotland. First, I have come here to

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Aberdeen to see what impact the oil industry will have on the outcome.

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How important is oil to the Scottish economy? It is very important. It is

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important to the economy of the UK. It has contributed in tax revenues

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approximately ?300 billion in today's terms. If Scotland decides

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to go for independence, how important will the oil revenue be?

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Not only the revenue. We'll provide about 200,000 jobs `` or ill. It

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contributes about ?22 billion to the gross domestic product ``. Without

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being a part of the Scottish economy, it would be difficult to

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see how it with riot. `` how it would thrive. Scotland has 200 local

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companies based in Scotland who operate in supplying servicing the

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oil industry. They have developed an expertise that is marketable abroad

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and half the revenue they earn is from international activity.

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Scotland's companies are in packing nationally. I hope that would

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continue if we were independent `` impacting. Which way will you vote

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in September? It is difficult. It won't come down purely to economics,

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but probably to sentiment and national pride. What is being said

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is that we are being denied the status of a country. If that

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alters, I would be happy to remain in the UK. Years and years of

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striving to gain independence, it would be a shame to back from that

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because of fears of what might happen and being accused of not

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being able to look after the country better than the UK can look after

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it. This disused railway line runs over 50 miles from the north`east of

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Aberdeen all the way to phrase it. What has been bothering me since I

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made this film is what is going to motivate people to vote in the

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referendum `` Fraserbrough. Is it threats to livelihood, or will they

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vote with their hearts? From the Borders to the Central Belt to the

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north`east, wind turbines have been everywhere I have visited in

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Scotland. The renewable energy sector forms a major part of the

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national economy. Wind power is the fastest growing technology,

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employing 11,500 people, and generating investment of over ?1.5

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billion in 2012 alone. Back in Aberdeen, Alex the oilman said his

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vote would be guided by sentiment and national pride, and not naked

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economics. Yet the voting intentions of most of the people I've met on my

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journey have been influenced by money, pure and simple. I'm about to

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chat to a farmer who doubles as an apostle for renewable energy. In his

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case, wind power. Would independence be a good or bad thing for windfarms

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like yours is yellow dart? We would prefer that we didn't have

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independence because of the underlying problems `` windfarms

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like yours? What are the obstacles that need to be overcome? The main

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thing is the fact that the tariffs come from Ofgem, why the Department

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of energy and climate change in England. There is no administration

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of that at all. If it is a sudden change over, there is going to be

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chaos for a while. Do you think and independent Scotland could afford to

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pay you the same subsidies, is that another worry is yellow there is a

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never concerned `` another worry? A lot of that is coming from

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offshore. The subsidies are twice as high as it is for these turbines. So

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there would be concern as to how they'll get the money to pay for all

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that. I am on the final stretch of the Formartine and Buchan Way, which

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ends here at Fraserburgh. This small fishing town is deceptive. It's the

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biggest shellfish port in Europe. Prawns and king scallops are the key

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products. The whole town's economy revolves

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around the harbour. Six out of ten of Fraserburgh's workforce, around

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800 people, work in fishing`related jobs.

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The stakes are high. I'm meeting a man who owns a fleet of ten fishing

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boats. Do you get turbot? Yes. Brill? Brill as well. I love brill.

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Turbot goes for an amazing price. Alan, how important is fishing to

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this part of Scotland? Hugely important, especially Fraserburgh

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here. You've got the whitefish vessels, prawn vessels, everything

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comes into Fraserburgh. And Peterhead, for that matter, relies

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on the fishing industry. It is a big employer. And it brings a lot of

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money into the region. If Scotland votes for independence, how will it

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affect Fraserburgh? We're kind of looking at that at the moment. We've

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discussed that at a meeting up at the Whitefish Association on Friday.

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And there's so much uncertainty, that's the thing. You know, many

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people would say Europe's ruined the fishing industry but, at the same

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time, we're tied in closely to them. So, it's the uncertainty of what

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would happen if you're out of Europe for independence, what do we do with

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the reciprocal agreements we've got? Do you think if Scotland is

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independent and you have to bargain with the rest of Europe, you and

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Norway together, is that good or bad? Maybe better. Some people would

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say it's better because we always come back from Europe at the end of

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the year thinking, we've had a bad deal. So, if we were with Norway, we

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might think it would be better. The biggest fear is the hiatus of the

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time that we come out. How long would it take to get back in there?

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And if it was from a standing start, it might take some time. But if we

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were allied with Norway in negotiating with Europe, some people

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may say that would be better. I was worried that when I came to

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Scotland, I might find that September's vote was down to whether

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the Scottish hated the English. It turns out that I was completely

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wrong. I also thought that the further north I got, the more I

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would find people voting yes and I was wrong about that also. In the

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Borders, the move amongst those I spoke to was generally against

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independence. In the Central Belt, much more in favour. In the

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north`east, it seemed pretty evenly split. This was my totally

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unscientific straw poll. It might not reflect how people vote on the

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18th of September. Whatever the outcome, I'll still be coming back

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to enjoy your fabulous walks. Good luck.

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The weekend is upon us and I am sure most of us are hoping for

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