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We're right on the Equator, according to my handy little gadget here, | 0:00:03 | 0:00:09 | |
and we're in western Indonesia - we think this island is the first bit of land | 0:00:09 | 0:00:15 | |
between here and Africa that way, and now we are going to begin our journey across Indonesia. | 0:00:15 | 0:00:21 | |
My equatorial journey across Indonesia will take me | 0:00:23 | 0:00:26 | |
through some of the most beautiful but endangered parts of the planet, | 0:00:26 | 0:00:30 | |
as well as areas of violent conflict. | 0:00:30 | 0:00:32 | |
My first stop, the Batu Islands, are 60 miles away from their neighbour, Sumatra. | 0:01:02 | 0:01:07 | |
Very few ferries make the journey here, | 0:01:07 | 0:01:10 | |
leaving the people here isolated from the outside world. | 0:01:10 | 0:01:13 | |
My guide Amalia explained they don't get many visitors here. | 0:01:23 | 0:01:27 | |
Hello, hello! | 0:01:27 | 0:01:31 | |
They're very excited. | 0:01:35 | 0:01:37 | |
Very excited, the first time maybe they see foreigners. | 0:01:37 | 0:01:41 | |
-The first time? -Think so. | 0:01:41 | 0:01:43 | |
Really? It's quite surprising in a way, because it really is so stunningly beautiful here! | 0:01:43 | 0:01:50 | |
At first glance, the islands are a palm-covered tropical paradise, surrounded by coral lagoons. | 0:01:51 | 0:01:57 | |
It would be perfect for tourists, if only they could get here! | 0:01:57 | 0:02:00 | |
With little contact with the outside world, the people here live a subsistence lifestyle. | 0:02:03 | 0:02:08 | |
One of their main sources of food is fish, and the men took me out to find dinner. | 0:02:08 | 0:02:13 | |
THEY SHOUT | 0:02:18 | 0:02:19 | |
THEY SING | 0:02:19 | 0:02:22 | |
We were off to do some fitabo, the local method of fishing. | 0:02:22 | 0:02:26 | |
You fitabo, I will fitabo, | 0:02:28 | 0:02:32 | |
we will fitabo together. | 0:02:32 | 0:02:35 | |
Come on! We've got to catch up! Can we join you here? | 0:02:48 | 0:02:51 | |
You're just deliberately soaking us now. Stop that! | 0:02:57 | 0:03:01 | |
Fitabo involves all the men from the village surrounding a lagoon | 0:03:06 | 0:03:10 | |
and then herding the fish towards the shore in an ever-decreasing circle. | 0:03:10 | 0:03:15 | |
A fish! A fish! A fish! | 0:03:18 | 0:03:20 | |
It actually worked. | 0:03:20 | 0:03:21 | |
Our main catch were the brightly coloured parrot fish, whose colours match the coral they graze. | 0:03:21 | 0:03:27 | |
They may have caught enough fish for the evening meal, | 0:03:33 | 0:03:37 | |
but there was no escaping the isolation and poverty. | 0:03:37 | 0:03:40 | |
Many of the children will leave the island to find work when they're old enough. | 0:03:40 | 0:03:45 | |
In the evening, the men gather and sing | 0:03:47 | 0:03:51 | |
of how those who leave must never forget the islands they come from. | 0:03:51 | 0:03:55 | |
We woke to news of a tragedy in the village. | 0:04:33 | 0:04:36 | |
A child. A small child, I think, Amalia? | 0:04:44 | 0:04:47 | |
Has died in the village. | 0:04:47 | 0:04:49 | |
Nobody was sure what illness the young boy had died from. | 0:04:50 | 0:04:54 | |
There was no doctor in the village and there would be no coroner's report. | 0:04:54 | 0:04:58 | |
In this hot and humid climate, burials take place at once. | 0:04:58 | 0:05:02 | |
Obviously, there is a much higher rate of infant mortality here | 0:05:02 | 0:05:08 | |
than there is in the West. | 0:05:08 | 0:05:10 | |
Do you think it's more accepted that children will die before they become | 0:05:10 | 0:05:15 | |
-young adults in this sort of area of Indonesia? -Yeah. | 0:05:15 | 0:05:19 | |
The health system doesn't work here. | 0:05:19 | 0:05:21 | |
They accept, for example, like the child now die because they don't know what kind of sickness he got, | 0:05:21 | 0:05:28 | |
so they said that maybe he got curse, a curse in the way that they don't know what kind of sickness, | 0:05:28 | 0:05:34 | |
so they just say that, but in medical term, maybe the child got a fever. | 0:05:34 | 0:05:40 | |
The islands may look like paradise, but life here is hard and can be desperately short. | 0:05:50 | 0:05:56 | |
The nearest medical help is a long boat trip away from the village. | 0:05:56 | 0:06:00 | |
Indonesia is the most populous Muslim nation on the planet, | 0:06:13 | 0:06:17 | |
but the villagers here are Christians, like 8% of the 240-million-strong population. | 0:06:17 | 0:06:23 | |
The mother of the boy was a young widow who had lost her husband just a year before. | 0:06:27 | 0:06:32 | |
That night, we had to say goodbye to the villagers, | 0:06:50 | 0:06:53 | |
to rendezvous with a small cargo boat that would take us east to the Batus' giant neighbour, Sumatra. | 0:06:53 | 0:06:59 | |
It doesn't look very big. | 0:06:59 | 0:07:02 | |
We're supposed to go right across to Sumatra on this, | 0:07:02 | 0:07:06 | |
which is going to be a journey between 15 and 17 hours. | 0:07:06 | 0:07:11 | |
It was a traditional wooden boat which usually carries fish, fruit and livestock. | 0:07:33 | 0:07:39 | |
There were no cabins. | 0:07:39 | 0:07:40 | |
We were to spend our night under the stars sleeping on a wooden deck. | 0:07:40 | 0:07:46 | |
A bit achey - not great, not horrendous, | 0:08:02 | 0:08:08 | |
just a bit rough. | 0:08:08 | 0:08:10 | |
The crew seemed to have had a better night's sleep than I did, | 0:08:17 | 0:08:20 | |
judging by the beating they gave me at dominoes. | 0:08:20 | 0:08:23 | |
Oh, no! | 0:08:30 | 0:08:33 | |
Yet again, I lose! | 0:08:33 | 0:08:35 | |
Have we been playing for money? | 0:08:38 | 0:08:40 | |
No? Phew. | 0:08:42 | 0:08:44 | |
I had a horrible feeling I had just spent all our budget. | 0:08:47 | 0:08:51 | |
We landed in Sumatra at Padang, | 0:08:58 | 0:09:02 | |
a port just south of the Equator. | 0:09:02 | 0:09:04 | |
Indonesia is made up of more than 17,000 islands, and hundreds of ethnic groups. | 0:09:10 | 0:09:16 | |
Since independence from the Dutch, the country has endured decades of dictatorship. | 0:09:16 | 0:09:21 | |
But for the last eight years, | 0:09:21 | 0:09:23 | |
it's been a fragile democracy, | 0:09:23 | 0:09:25 | |
as the government struggles to keep this disparate nation together. | 0:09:25 | 0:09:30 | |
We headed north by road towards Bukittinggi and the Equator. | 0:09:30 | 0:09:34 | |
The scenery becomes increasingly dramatic as the road climbs through | 0:09:43 | 0:09:47 | |
the hills of west Sumatra, with jungle-covered mountains and volcanoes. | 0:09:47 | 0:09:52 | |
Bukittinggi is more than 900 metres above sea level. | 0:09:56 | 0:10:00 | |
Its name means "high hills". | 0:10:00 | 0:10:03 | |
The town's hub is the market. | 0:10:07 | 0:10:10 | |
Indonesians live much of their lives outside - | 0:10:10 | 0:10:13 | |
they shop at street markets and eat at street stalls called warungs. | 0:10:13 | 0:10:18 | |
Amalia took me to one to try a local delicacy. | 0:10:18 | 0:10:21 | |
Really quick, | 0:10:27 | 0:10:30 | |
looks good. | 0:10:30 | 0:10:32 | |
This is satay padang. | 0:10:33 | 0:10:35 | |
-This is intestine, try it. Very nice. -Hang on. | 0:10:38 | 0:10:43 | |
-It's what? -Intestine. | 0:10:43 | 0:10:46 | |
-Intestine. -Of beef. | 0:10:46 | 0:10:48 | |
And this is a delicacy? OK... | 0:10:48 | 0:10:51 | |
Still hot? How is it? | 0:10:52 | 0:10:54 | |
It's still hot. | 0:10:56 | 0:10:58 | |
It's not that bad - | 0:11:00 | 0:11:02 | |
it could grow on me. | 0:11:02 | 0:11:04 | |
I'm not sure what the slightly jelly-like substance in the middle is, though. What would that be? | 0:11:10 | 0:11:17 | |
The contents of the intestine? | 0:11:17 | 0:11:19 | |
-Yes, maybe. -Oh, no! | 0:11:19 | 0:11:21 | |
Go on, finish it, you got three intestine! | 0:11:21 | 0:11:25 | |
Meat in the market is so fresh, it's still clucking. | 0:11:31 | 0:11:35 | |
You wouldn't know it walking round here, | 0:11:35 | 0:11:37 | |
but Indonesia has been badly hit by bird flu, | 0:11:37 | 0:11:40 | |
with one of the highest number of cases in the world. | 0:11:40 | 0:11:43 | |
We've got one in here that's being... Ooh, chopped to pieces by the look of it... | 0:11:43 | 0:11:48 | |
Seven members of one family died elsewhere in Sumatra. | 0:11:48 | 0:11:51 | |
We were assured Bukittinggi hadn't been affected. | 0:11:54 | 0:11:56 | |
Have you noticed your sales being affected at all, | 0:11:56 | 0:12:01 | |
any of the shoppers concerned about the bird flu? | 0:12:01 | 0:12:04 | |
AMALIA TRANSLATES | 0:12:04 | 0:12:08 | |
I'm not worried about bird flu, | 0:12:08 | 0:12:11 | |
I'm not worried about bird flu, but it affected my chicken sales. | 0:12:11 | 0:12:16 | |
-It has affected my chicken sales... -In the past, not so much now. -Yes, not so much now. | 0:12:16 | 0:12:21 | |
Are people getting maybe a little bit complacent about it, then, | 0:12:21 | 0:12:24 | |
-as it's still a threat, isn't it? -Yes, it's still a threat. | 0:12:24 | 0:12:27 | |
Have you been given any advice by the government about how to prevent bird flu? | 0:12:27 | 0:12:32 | |
Yes, the government give, er...precaution training to them, how to give a vaccine, etc. | 0:12:35 | 0:12:44 | |
He says that people might be afraid, but we are here from 6am until 6pm | 0:12:44 | 0:12:52 | |
-dealing with chicken. -And they're OK so far. -And they're OK so far. | 0:12:52 | 0:12:56 | |
Amalia, what are we doing now? | 0:12:59 | 0:13:01 | |
Well, she's checking which chicken that has an egg, | 0:13:01 | 0:13:06 | |
so after that once they've found it and then they have to try it. | 0:13:06 | 0:13:10 | |
Put your finger in the chicken bum. | 0:13:14 | 0:13:17 | |
-Put my finger in the what? -In the chicken bum. -In the chicken's bum? | 0:13:17 | 0:13:22 | |
And why would I want to do that? | 0:13:22 | 0:13:24 | |
So you can know whether there's an egg or not in the chicken. | 0:13:24 | 0:13:29 | |
-It's fun, isn't it? -Oh, it's fun, that sounds fun, | 0:13:29 | 0:13:32 | |
a fun day for me consists of putting my finger up a chicken's arse, for sure. | 0:13:32 | 0:13:38 | |
Come on, try it! | 0:13:38 | 0:13:39 | |
Is anything there? | 0:13:44 | 0:13:45 | |
-There's nothing there, no! -Nothing there in the chicken bum. | 0:13:45 | 0:13:49 | |
-Smell it. -I don't want to smell it! -Smell it, Simon, smell it! | 0:13:54 | 0:14:00 | |
I was keen to get on and see some of Indonesia's slightly more exciting wildlife. | 0:14:01 | 0:14:07 | |
So I took a flight east to see one of the world's largest populations of orang-utans, | 0:14:07 | 0:14:11 | |
on Kalimantan, the Indonesian part of the island of Borneo. | 0:14:11 | 0:14:16 | |
Borneo's the next major island along the Equator. | 0:14:16 | 0:14:19 | |
I knew the rainforest on the Equator, a home to the orang-utans, | 0:14:19 | 0:14:24 | |
is under threat from loggers. | 0:14:24 | 0:14:26 | |
To be certain of meeting orang-utans I needed to take a detour south of the Equator, | 0:14:26 | 0:14:32 | |
and headed towards a national park considered one of the island's great treasures. | 0:14:32 | 0:14:37 | |
-Zacky? -Yeah. | 0:14:37 | 0:14:37 | |
-Hello. -I'm Zacky. -Simon. | 0:14:37 | 0:14:40 | |
-Zacky. -Nice to meet you. -Nice to meet you too. | 0:14:40 | 0:14:43 | |
We meet up with Zacky, a zoologist from Orang-utan Foundation International, | 0:14:43 | 0:14:47 | |
an organisation dedicated to protecting the primates from extinction. | 0:14:47 | 0:14:52 | |
He was taking us to Tanjung Puting National Park, | 0:14:52 | 0:14:58 | |
where hundreds of orang-utans have found sanctuary. | 0:14:58 | 0:15:02 | |
The last count, | 0:15:02 | 0:15:04 | |
6,000 individuals there. | 0:15:04 | 0:15:07 | |
6,000 orang-utans in the park, so we'll definitely see one at least? | 0:15:07 | 0:15:12 | |
Yeah, I guarantee that! | 0:15:12 | 0:15:15 | |
More and more of the Borneo forest is being chopped down every year. | 0:15:18 | 0:15:24 | |
It's estimated that Indonesia as a whole has lost three quarters of its native woodland. | 0:15:24 | 0:15:29 | |
And as loggers chop down the trees, orang-utan numbers are collapsing. | 0:15:29 | 0:15:33 | |
The park is one of the few remaining protected areas of this extraordinary island. | 0:15:34 | 0:15:39 | |
To give you some idea, the UK has just over 30 native species of trees. | 0:15:39 | 0:15:44 | |
Borneo as a whole has more than 5,000. | 0:15:44 | 0:15:47 | |
But the current rate of forest loss in this country is the worst in the world. | 0:15:47 | 0:15:53 | |
Are we arrived? | 0:15:53 | 0:15:56 | |
Yeah, we are here now at Camp Leakey. | 0:15:56 | 0:15:58 | |
Fantastic, it really does look like paradise. | 0:15:59 | 0:16:03 | |
Look, there's somebody coming to meet us. | 0:16:08 | 0:16:12 | |
-Can we go? -Yes, sure, sure. | 0:16:15 | 0:16:18 | |
Is it OK for us to have food in our pockets, or water? | 0:16:18 | 0:16:22 | |
Yeah, they're looking for water or something, but I can handle him and you go. | 0:16:22 | 0:16:28 | |
I just run off and leave you to look after him? | 0:16:28 | 0:16:32 | |
Oh... | 0:16:38 | 0:16:39 | |
Well, he managed to get that from me quite quickly. | 0:16:39 | 0:16:43 | |
Yeah, he makes sure it's food or water. | 0:16:43 | 0:16:47 | |
-So have you got to try to recover all the water now? -Yeah. | 0:16:47 | 0:16:51 | |
-Are you just gonna take it off him? -Give him one and then make sure.... | 0:16:51 | 0:16:55 | |
He doesn't want to have the plastic bag. | 0:16:55 | 0:16:58 | |
Shall we get the plastic bag back? | 0:16:58 | 0:17:00 | |
You can get the plastic bag. | 0:17:00 | 0:17:03 | |
No, you can get it back! | 0:17:03 | 0:17:05 | |
-It's OK. -Can we have that back? Thank you very much. | 0:17:05 | 0:17:09 | |
You are absolutely incredible. | 0:17:09 | 0:17:12 | |
Can we take the top off for you, at least, so you can have a drink? | 0:17:12 | 0:17:16 | |
No, he's done that, he doesn't need our help. | 0:17:16 | 0:17:20 | |
Give us the plastic back. | 0:17:20 | 0:17:22 | |
You don't want the plastic. Go on, spit it out, spit it out! | 0:17:22 | 0:17:26 | |
Thank you, you make me feel like Dr Doolittle! | 0:17:26 | 0:17:28 | |
The reception was a reminder that we were now in their territory. | 0:17:34 | 0:17:38 | |
The literal translation of "orang-utan" is "man of the forest". | 0:17:51 | 0:17:56 | |
This is an area where you feed them. | 0:17:56 | 0:18:01 | |
HE CALLS | 0:18:08 | 0:18:11 | |
Presumably they're calling them down now. | 0:18:14 | 0:18:17 | |
And here they come. | 0:18:22 | 0:18:24 | |
Many of these apes have been rehabilitated into the wild, | 0:18:31 | 0:18:35 | |
but there's not enough forest and wild fruit to support them, | 0:18:35 | 0:18:38 | |
so the Foundation puts out food to help them survive. | 0:18:38 | 0:18:41 | |
Orang-utans used to be spread across south Asia. | 0:18:41 | 0:18:46 | |
Now they're only found on Sumatra and here on Borneo. | 0:18:46 | 0:18:50 | |
Oh, this is really quite breathtaking... | 0:18:59 | 0:19:03 | |
Somebody has got a weapon. | 0:19:18 | 0:19:21 | |
We'd made the cardinal mistake of guests, and outstayed our welcome. | 0:19:21 | 0:19:26 | |
-OK, now she's getting really cross with us. -Yeah. | 0:19:28 | 0:19:31 | |
Our cameraman, Fred, bore the brunt of the attack. | 0:19:37 | 0:19:40 | |
Now she's getting really cross with us. She's had enough! | 0:19:50 | 0:19:55 | |
It's getting almost tempting to throw something back. | 0:19:55 | 0:19:58 | |
Ooh! | 0:20:03 | 0:20:05 | |
I think it's time for us to go! | 0:20:06 | 0:20:09 | |
The Foundation also looks after around 120 orang-utan orphans. | 0:20:17 | 0:20:22 | |
How old are these little ones? | 0:20:26 | 0:20:28 | |
About nine months. | 0:20:28 | 0:20:31 | |
And what are their names? | 0:20:31 | 0:20:32 | |
Leah and Lesley. | 0:20:32 | 0:20:35 | |
Leah and Lesley. | 0:20:35 | 0:20:38 | |
You poor thing! Most of these orphans have the same story. | 0:20:38 | 0:20:42 | |
The dwindling forests are no longer big enough to feed the orang-utan population. | 0:20:42 | 0:20:47 | |
Their mothers were forced into the open, leaving them vulnerable to hunters and loggers. | 0:20:49 | 0:20:54 | |
Baby orang-utans are spared because they're valuable as pets. | 0:20:54 | 0:20:58 | |
These are the lucky ones who've been rescued. | 0:20:58 | 0:21:00 | |
Look at all of them! They can't wait! | 0:21:06 | 0:21:10 | |
Simon, you can take one. | 0:21:21 | 0:21:24 | |
OK, do they want me? | 0:21:24 | 0:21:28 | |
Beautiful, pretty. | 0:21:28 | 0:21:30 | |
Yes, thank you very much. | 0:21:30 | 0:21:33 | |
And who's this? | 0:21:33 | 0:21:36 | |
-Osborne. -Osborne. | 0:21:36 | 0:21:38 | |
So, Zacky, why are we taking the orang-utans on a group outing? | 0:21:49 | 0:21:54 | |
This forest is like a practice for them to the real forest, | 0:21:54 | 0:21:59 | |
to the real jungle, | 0:21:59 | 0:22:01 | |
like this...forest they can practise for climb, for... | 0:22:01 | 0:22:05 | |
So you want to reintroduce them into the wild? | 0:22:05 | 0:22:08 | |
Yep, yep. | 0:22:08 | 0:22:10 | |
Oh, this is what she wants. | 0:22:15 | 0:22:17 | |
Here we go. | 0:22:17 | 0:22:20 | |
Off you go! | 0:22:20 | 0:22:21 | |
Many are ready to go back to the wild, | 0:22:30 | 0:22:32 | |
but the Foundation is running out of safe forest where it can release them. | 0:22:32 | 0:22:37 | |
So where have all of them come from? | 0:22:41 | 0:22:43 | |
Well, most from central Kalimantan, | 0:22:43 | 0:22:49 | |
from logging concession, from palm-oil plantation - | 0:22:49 | 0:22:54 | |
the big, big problem, the big, big threat, | 0:22:54 | 0:22:57 | |
that destruction area from palm-oil plantation. | 0:22:57 | 0:23:04 | |
That's number one. | 0:23:05 | 0:23:07 | |
The government has clamped down on illegal logging for lumber, | 0:23:08 | 0:23:12 | |
but now the great problem is the destruction of the forest | 0:23:12 | 0:23:17 | |
to make way for palm oil, a new supercrop. | 0:23:17 | 0:23:20 | |
Conservationists claim this huge plantation, with its smoking factory, | 0:23:20 | 0:23:24 | |
has been partially built on land which is inside the boundaries of the National Park. | 0:23:24 | 0:23:28 | |
Stephen Brend is another zoologist working for the Orang-utan Foundation, | 0:23:31 | 0:23:36 | |
who's campaigning to stop more park forest being cut down | 0:23:36 | 0:23:39 | |
to make way for massive palm-oil plantations. | 0:23:39 | 0:23:43 | |
So what exactly is it? | 0:23:43 | 0:23:45 | |
Palm oil's this miracle crop, | 0:23:45 | 0:23:49 | |
vegetable oil, it's in 10% of all UK supermarket products. | 0:23:49 | 0:23:53 | |
10%?! | 0:23:53 | 0:23:55 | |
Often when you see something that says "fried in vegetable oil", they'll mean it's palm oil. | 0:23:55 | 0:23:59 | |
It's in biscuits, it's even in ice cream, it's in cosmetics | 0:23:59 | 0:24:03 | |
and it could end up in your petrol tank if the demand for bio-diesel booms. | 0:24:03 | 0:24:07 | |
This is... This is the fruit. | 0:24:14 | 0:24:16 | |
This is palm oil. | 0:24:16 | 0:24:20 | |
This very thing is what the problem is all about. But it's not that. | 0:24:23 | 0:24:28 | |
What the problem is that the return per tree is so small, | 0:24:28 | 0:24:31 | |
to make it economical, they grow palm oil in multi-thousand-hectare plantations, | 0:24:31 | 0:24:37 | |
and where the palm-oil trees go used to be rainforest. | 0:24:37 | 0:24:42 | |
It is a wonder crop, and it's incredibly useful, | 0:24:44 | 0:24:47 | |
and we've got to use it, but it's where we grow it and how we grow it. | 0:24:47 | 0:24:52 | |
Indonesia has every right to the money that can be got from harvesting this fruit, | 0:24:52 | 0:24:58 | |
but it shouldn't be done at the expense of the National Park. | 0:24:58 | 0:25:01 | |
Government officials are currently reviewing the boundaries of the park. | 0:25:07 | 0:25:12 | |
It could mean the loss of a further 300 sq kilometres to palm oil, | 0:25:12 | 0:25:16 | |
an area nearly the size of the Isle of Wight. | 0:25:16 | 0:25:19 | |
Stephen thinks it could mean a further 500 orang-utans losing their habitat. | 0:25:21 | 0:25:26 | |
But while the battle over the future of the Park continues, small-scale logging still goes on. | 0:25:28 | 0:25:34 | |
So Stephen, what's going on here? | 0:25:34 | 0:25:36 | |
Well, this is a logging rail - | 0:25:38 | 0:25:40 | |
this is how people move logs out of the National Park. | 0:25:40 | 0:25:44 | |
-Legally, or illegally? -It's in the National Park - it's illegal. | 0:25:44 | 0:25:48 | |
This is the area that's in dispute of the National Park - | 0:25:48 | 0:25:52 | |
and so we're getting the sense that local people are saying, | 0:25:52 | 0:25:55 | |
"Look, this is going to become a palm-oil plantation anyway, let us get the wood out." | 0:25:55 | 0:26:00 | |
It's a very difficult situation to try and control. | 0:26:00 | 0:26:03 | |
-I can hear the... -You can hear it in the background. -..the chainsaws. | 0:26:03 | 0:26:07 | |
You think we can get to it this way, Zacky? | 0:26:11 | 0:26:14 | |
Yeah, a little bit far, but we can try. | 0:26:14 | 0:26:17 | |
We decided to follow the noise. | 0:26:22 | 0:26:25 | |
Let's hope they're friendly. | 0:26:30 | 0:26:31 | |
Have you had a hard day today? | 0:26:47 | 0:26:50 | |
How many trees have you managed to cut down today? | 0:26:55 | 0:26:59 | |
-TRANSLATION: -We have cut down two trees today. | 0:27:00 | 0:27:03 | |
Two trees today? | 0:27:03 | 0:27:06 | |
Do you think these trees belong to your village or do they belong to the National Park? | 0:27:06 | 0:27:11 | |
-TRANSLATION: -This here - the trees belong to the village. | 0:27:11 | 0:27:16 | |
The men, who claimed they didn't know they were doing anything wrong, | 0:27:18 | 0:27:23 | |
say they supply the wood to local businesses. | 0:27:23 | 0:27:26 | |
Do you think there will be any trees left when your kids grow up? | 0:27:27 | 0:27:31 | |
-TRANSLATION: -We don't know. | 0:27:31 | 0:27:33 | |
We'll have to see. | 0:27:33 | 0:27:38 | |
If companies keep cutting down trees, obviously all the trees will go. | 0:27:38 | 0:27:43 | |
It's just the same message - palm oil robs us of the forest - it's the same thing. | 0:27:46 | 0:27:51 | |
He didn't use the word "rob", he just said the trees go, I'm using the word "rob". | 0:27:51 | 0:27:55 | |
The Equator cuts right across Borneo, | 0:28:17 | 0:28:20 | |
and the road taking us east was bordered by what's left of the once mighty rainforests. | 0:28:20 | 0:28:25 | |
The ravaged landscape was a stark reminder of what the future may hold for the National Park. | 0:28:25 | 0:28:30 | |
But man hasn't just been destroying the native habitat and species here. | 0:28:32 | 0:28:37 | |
In recent years, the people in Borneo have been turning on each other. | 0:28:37 | 0:28:42 | |
The main ethnic group here are the Dayak head-hunters. | 0:28:42 | 0:28:45 | |
There's eight million here on this equatorial island, | 0:28:45 | 0:28:49 | |
some living primitively in the forest, others in towns and villages. | 0:28:49 | 0:28:52 | |
I was heading east from the National Park to the town of Palangkaraya, | 0:28:53 | 0:28:58 | |
in the centre of Borneo. | 0:28:58 | 0:29:00 | |
The Dayaks here confirmed their fearsome reputation a few years ago when they went on the rampage, | 0:29:00 | 0:29:06 | |
attacking another ethnic group, the Madurese, immigrants to the island. | 0:29:06 | 0:29:11 | |
Jihan, who worked as a journalist in the town during the attacks, | 0:29:11 | 0:29:15 | |
wanted to bring me here and show me around. | 0:29:15 | 0:29:18 | |
This is the first road I took, and the first body that I found | 0:29:18 | 0:29:23 | |
was located right in that side of the road. | 0:29:23 | 0:29:27 | |
-First body? -Yes, | 0:29:27 | 0:29:28 | |
and... | 0:29:28 | 0:29:32 | |
it was quite terrifying, quite shocking for me, | 0:29:35 | 0:29:39 | |
cos it's kind of hard to comprehend, seeing a body without a head. | 0:29:39 | 0:29:43 | |
Did you feel personally threatened? | 0:29:43 | 0:29:46 | |
Somehow, I didn't, I didn't really care what my ethnicity at the time, | 0:29:46 | 0:29:53 | |
until later on, I realised I still had a little bit of Madurese blood, | 0:29:54 | 0:29:58 | |
when someone, one of the Dayak leaders kind of like identified me and saying, | 0:29:58 | 0:30:03 | |
basically, like giving me a notification, | 0:30:03 | 0:30:07 | |
or sort of like a warning saying, "You're not one of our targets, | 0:30:07 | 0:30:12 | |
"but, at the same time, we cannot guarantee your safety." | 0:30:12 | 0:30:15 | |
The Madurese came to Borneo as part of the Indonesian government's policy of transmigration - | 0:30:15 | 0:30:22 | |
a system of moving people from the overcrowded islands of the south | 0:30:22 | 0:30:27 | |
to less-populated land in the north. | 0:30:27 | 0:30:29 | |
The policy led to clashes over land and culture, particularly between the Dayaks and the Madurese. | 0:30:29 | 0:30:36 | |
A mob of Dayaks came down here and hunt down the Madurese | 0:30:40 | 0:30:44 | |
and try to demolish anything that belongs to Madurese, | 0:30:44 | 0:30:49 | |
just to make sure that no more identity of the Madurese left in this one particular place. | 0:30:49 | 0:30:57 | |
For the Madurese who managed to take shelter and seek refuge at the military base, | 0:31:01 | 0:31:05 | |
or the police stations, the most important in their mind - just leave this place. | 0:31:05 | 0:31:10 | |
-Get out. -Just get out, definitely. | 0:31:10 | 0:31:13 | |
Between 1997 and 2003, the Dayaks killed thousands of Madurese. | 0:31:13 | 0:31:19 | |
Nobody knows the true number. | 0:31:19 | 0:31:22 | |
Eyewitnesses said many were cannibalised after their deaths. | 0:31:22 | 0:31:26 | |
We were invited to a Dayak village to meet some of those involved in the fighting. | 0:31:38 | 0:31:43 | |
We found them in a celebratory mood. | 0:31:58 | 0:32:01 | |
They were holding a Tiwah, a religious ceremony dedicated to the dead. | 0:32:01 | 0:32:06 | |
We were welcomed as honoured guests and asked to take part in the dancing. | 0:32:14 | 0:32:19 | |
Something curious is about to happen, I can see. | 0:32:31 | 0:32:38 | |
After the dance, one of the elders, Robert, agreed to tell us about the attacks on the Madurese. | 0:32:51 | 0:32:57 | |
What is the problem the Dayaks have with the Madurese? What was the cause of the conflict? | 0:32:57 | 0:33:03 | |
TRANSLATION: The Madurese behave as they pleased, gambling, cock fighting. | 0:33:03 | 0:33:11 | |
That was the start of it. | 0:33:11 | 0:33:13 | |
They always carried their weapons and used them in arguments. | 0:33:13 | 0:33:18 | |
What happened during the conflict, | 0:33:18 | 0:33:20 | |
can you explain a little bit more about it, what was the conflict about? | 0:33:20 | 0:33:24 | |
TRANSLATION: They attacked us first, killing two people from our village. | 0:33:24 | 0:33:28 | |
If you are good to us, then we will be very good to you. | 0:33:28 | 0:33:32 | |
If you treat us badly, then we will treat you worse. | 0:33:32 | 0:33:36 | |
Was my sword here involved in the fighting at all, would this have been used? | 0:33:38 | 0:33:43 | |
TRANSLATION: This is the Dayak traditional weapon, which we have used for a long time. | 0:33:48 | 0:33:54 | |
When we had our fight with the Madurese, we used it. | 0:33:56 | 0:33:59 | |
Many Madurese were beheaded with these swords. | 0:33:59 | 0:34:02 | |
We chopped off their heads with these swords. | 0:34:02 | 0:34:05 | |
So were you actually involved in the fighting? | 0:34:05 | 0:34:09 | |
Not directly, but I was giving out orders. | 0:34:09 | 0:34:12 | |
My son was involved in the fighting. | 0:34:12 | 0:34:14 | |
And what was your son's involvement, what did your son do? | 0:34:14 | 0:34:19 | |
What I did at the time, I forbade my son to join. | 0:34:19 | 0:34:26 | |
The Madurese had killed his best friend. | 0:34:26 | 0:34:29 | |
If they were Madurese, my son did not hesitate to kill them. | 0:34:33 | 0:34:36 | |
Off with their heads. | 0:34:38 | 0:34:40 | |
If they were Madurese, he had to kill them. | 0:34:42 | 0:34:46 | |
It was payback time. | 0:34:46 | 0:34:48 | |
We destroyed everything, including their livestock. | 0:34:48 | 0:34:52 | |
You've already prepared breakfast for us! You are being too kind! | 0:34:59 | 0:35:05 | |
Robert wanted to show us the other side of Dayak culture, | 0:35:05 | 0:35:08 | |
the great hospitality given to strangers who aren't seen as a threat. | 0:35:08 | 0:35:12 | |
I thought it was just going to be a meal, | 0:35:12 | 0:35:15 | |
but he'd decided he wanted to make me a Dayak by adopting me into his family. | 0:35:15 | 0:35:19 | |
They consider us as family, that's why they want us to take part here. | 0:35:19 | 0:35:24 | |
I was anointed with chicken's blood, which is meant to bring me good health and good luck. | 0:35:51 | 0:35:58 | |
Rice was placed on my head, representing power and food for the community. | 0:35:58 | 0:36:03 | |
Thank you, thank you! | 0:36:13 | 0:36:15 | |
What are my responsibilities now as your adopted son? | 0:36:16 | 0:36:21 | |
TRANSLATION: Your responsibility is just to remember us here - | 0:36:25 | 0:36:28 | |
we want you to remember us - your father and mother. | 0:36:28 | 0:36:31 | |
I did have 11 children, now 12 with this one. | 0:36:33 | 0:36:38 | |
I had mixed feelings leaving the Dayaks. They had been fantastically welcoming to me, | 0:36:46 | 0:36:53 | |
but they also weren't ashamed to admit they'd killed settlers on Borneo who they'd fallen out with. | 0:36:53 | 0:36:59 | |
Borneo isn't the only island where conflict is destroying lives. | 0:37:13 | 0:37:18 | |
I was leaving from the port of Balikpapan on Borneo's east coast, just south of the Equator. | 0:37:21 | 0:37:27 | |
I think our boat is this way. | 0:37:30 | 0:37:32 | |
It looks huge! | 0:37:41 | 0:37:43 | |
The ferry is one of the craft which knits together this nation | 0:37:43 | 0:37:46 | |
of different islands, races and religions. | 0:37:46 | 0:37:49 | |
Conditions look a bit rudimentary inside. | 0:37:56 | 0:38:01 | |
Hello! | 0:38:01 | 0:38:03 | |
Having spent a night on deck during our last sea trip, | 0:38:04 | 0:38:08 | |
I wasn't looking forward to the overcrowded sleeping arrangements on this one. | 0:38:08 | 0:38:12 | |
I'm not sure if we're supposed to be sleeping in here. | 0:38:12 | 0:38:15 | |
Upstairs? | 0:38:21 | 0:38:23 | |
It's like a cross-channel ferry. | 0:38:24 | 0:38:26 | |
-Whoa! -Look at this! -Do we have a bit of luxury travel? | 0:38:32 | 0:38:36 | |
Not bad. Look at it. | 0:38:36 | 0:38:39 | |
Much nicer than I expected! Oh! | 0:38:39 | 0:38:43 | |
What a relief! | 0:38:43 | 0:38:46 | |
It turned out my cheap ticket entitled me to a luxury cabin for the night! | 0:38:46 | 0:38:52 | |
This is really quite nice! | 0:38:52 | 0:38:54 | |
The ferry was taking us to Palu, | 0:39:12 | 0:39:14 | |
a town just off the Equator on the island of Sulawesi. | 0:39:14 | 0:39:17 | |
It's an island of dramatic mountains, and a striking coastline. | 0:39:24 | 0:39:28 | |
But its beauty contrasts with bloody religious conflict. | 0:39:28 | 0:39:32 | |
PEOPLE CHANT PRAYERS | 0:39:40 | 0:39:42 | |
Like the rest of Indonesia, the vast majority of people living on Sulawesi are Muslims. | 0:39:44 | 0:39:50 | |
But it also contains significant numbers of Christians and other religious minorities. | 0:39:55 | 0:40:00 | |
In recent years, clashes between Muslims and Christians have claimed more than 1,000 lives. | 0:40:00 | 0:40:06 | |
There have been recent bombings in Palu and, as I drove into town, the atmosphere was still tense. | 0:40:06 | 0:40:13 | |
The problems started in 1998, when the national government had collapsed | 0:40:13 | 0:40:17 | |
and Indonesia was in chaos. | 0:40:17 | 0:40:19 | |
Local political rivalries split along religious lines. | 0:40:19 | 0:40:23 | |
Street fights over political power escalated until entire communities were being massacred. | 0:40:23 | 0:40:28 | |
Elias, a university lecturer, agreed to show us about. | 0:40:30 | 0:40:34 | |
He's Muslim, but a large part of his family is Christian. | 0:40:34 | 0:40:38 | |
Elias has got this truncheon. | 0:40:38 | 0:40:41 | |
Are you carrying this because of security? | 0:40:41 | 0:40:45 | |
Yes, for protecting myself. | 0:40:45 | 0:40:47 | |
Before, I am not afraid anything here because I have many family here, | 0:40:47 | 0:40:52 | |
-but, since the things... -Since the attacks? -..since the attack, I am afraid. | 0:40:52 | 0:41:00 | |
This is one of the churches. | 0:41:04 | 0:41:06 | |
Was... Someone put the bomb here. | 0:41:07 | 0:41:10 | |
Oh, there's a police point just over here. | 0:41:11 | 0:41:14 | |
-The police are guarding the churches now, are they? -Yes. -Right. | 0:41:16 | 0:41:21 | |
Elias took us to the pork market, | 0:41:25 | 0:41:28 | |
a place where only Christians would shop. | 0:41:28 | 0:41:33 | |
A bomb attack here a few months before had killed nine people, including Elias's Christian uncle. | 0:41:33 | 0:41:39 | |
Is the policeman coming with us as well? | 0:41:39 | 0:41:42 | |
-The bomb was right here? -Yes. | 0:41:51 | 0:41:53 | |
Can you explain what happened that day? | 0:41:57 | 0:42:01 | |
TRANSLATION: Shoppers had started pouring into the market. | 0:42:01 | 0:42:06 | |
When the bomb went off, I was standing over there. | 0:42:14 | 0:42:17 | |
It was all so sudden, I was so shocked. | 0:42:22 | 0:42:26 | |
I did not know what had happened. | 0:42:26 | 0:42:28 | |
I couldn't hear anything. I went deaf. | 0:42:28 | 0:42:31 | |
Were you injured at all? | 0:42:31 | 0:42:34 | |
Yes, I was injured on the leg. | 0:42:36 | 0:42:38 | |
The police were now guarding the market. | 0:42:47 | 0:42:50 | |
Who do you think was responsible for the attack and what was the motive? | 0:42:52 | 0:42:57 | |
TRANSLATION: I think Muslim and Christian communities live here in harmony, | 0:42:57 | 0:43:02 | |
but there are people who don't like to see that, | 0:43:02 | 0:43:05 | |
and those people want to start a conflict between Muslims and Christians. | 0:43:05 | 0:43:10 | |
Killings have been carried out by both sides. | 0:43:14 | 0:43:17 | |
We were taken to an area for Muslim refugees from the fighting. | 0:43:17 | 0:43:21 | |
-So where are we going now? -We are going to Sophia's house. | 0:43:21 | 0:43:28 | |
Sophia, who is she? | 0:43:28 | 0:43:30 | |
She is a victim of...also conflict - | 0:43:30 | 0:43:33 | |
she lost her husband and her extended family, so it's around maybe 50 family members. | 0:43:37 | 0:43:42 | |
-50?! -50 people in the family. | 0:43:42 | 0:43:44 | |
Sophia, can you explain to me what happened during the conflict? | 0:43:46 | 0:43:50 | |
-TRANSLATION: -They tied our men like animals, so when one fell, they all fell. | 0:43:52 | 0:43:56 | |
We watched our husbands while they were beaten. I asked, "What are you going to do with my husband?" | 0:43:56 | 0:44:02 | |
"Shut up," one man said. Then they kicked him. | 0:44:02 | 0:44:05 | |
All of the males, including boys, were targeted. | 0:44:07 | 0:44:09 | |
Many were never seen again. | 0:44:09 | 0:44:11 | |
Sophia thought her son would be killed if discovered. | 0:44:11 | 0:44:14 | |
When I was trying to escape, I put girls' clothes on my son, so they didn't know he's a boy. | 0:44:18 | 0:44:23 | |
The Christian militia stopped us and asked if they were boys or girls. | 0:44:26 | 0:44:30 | |
I replied, "I have two children, and both are girls." | 0:44:30 | 0:44:34 | |
I have no idea why they killed my husband. | 0:44:36 | 0:44:38 | |
We saw lots of bodies floating in the river. | 0:44:42 | 0:44:45 | |
My children said, "Let's wait here. Who knows, we may find Dad's body." | 0:44:45 | 0:44:50 | |
But all the bodies were naked and headless - you couldn't tell who was who. | 0:44:54 | 0:44:58 | |
How do you feel about Christians, after what you've gone through? | 0:45:00 | 0:45:03 | |
After the fighting, after we lost everything we had, | 0:45:05 | 0:45:09 | |
I do think there's a gap between us now. | 0:45:09 | 0:45:12 | |
Now when I see Christians, I feel very deep hatred. | 0:45:12 | 0:45:16 | |
Peace deals have been brokered, but none so far has fully held. | 0:45:20 | 0:45:24 | |
In a nearby town, three Christian girls were attacked and beheaded | 0:45:24 | 0:45:28 | |
as they walked to school. | 0:45:28 | 0:45:30 | |
We left the mainland and headed for a more peaceful part of Sulawesi. | 0:45:37 | 0:45:41 | |
We sailed north, back towards the Equator and the Togians, | 0:45:41 | 0:45:45 | |
a group of coral and volcanic islands. | 0:45:45 | 0:45:48 | |
The seas here are rich with marine life, and some of it came to welcome us. | 0:45:48 | 0:45:54 | |
Come on. Watch the dolphins. | 0:45:59 | 0:46:01 | |
They're just riding in front of the boat. | 0:46:01 | 0:46:04 | |
Amazing little things. | 0:46:10 | 0:46:12 | |
We were staying with the Bajo people, | 0:46:31 | 0:46:33 | |
one of several ethnic groups known as sea gypsies who live on the waters around Indonesia. | 0:46:33 | 0:46:39 | |
As most of the country strives to modernise, | 0:46:39 | 0:46:42 | |
they do their best to live apart and cling to their traditional way of life. | 0:46:42 | 0:46:46 | |
PEOPLE WHOOP, DRUMS BEAT | 0:46:50 | 0:46:52 | |
We're being welcomed in the pouring rain, | 0:47:13 | 0:47:17 | |
and they're doing a sort of martial arts demonstration that I'm told | 0:47:17 | 0:47:21 | |
is meant to prove they can protect us - | 0:47:21 | 0:47:24 | |
it's not meant to frighten us away, as I originally thought. | 0:47:24 | 0:47:28 | |
The culture and economy of the Bajo people is derived from the water around them. | 0:47:35 | 0:47:40 | |
We left the village, and set out in their small traditional wooden boats | 0:47:43 | 0:47:47 | |
to go and see them where they excel - in the sea. | 0:47:47 | 0:47:51 | |
Their livelihood is derived from fishing and scavenging the seabed. | 0:47:53 | 0:47:58 | |
With us were the younger members of the community. | 0:48:01 | 0:48:05 | |
The children must learn to become divers if the Bajo are to have a future. | 0:48:05 | 0:48:11 | |
I think it's time for a swimming lesson. | 0:48:11 | 0:48:13 | |
Mine, not theirs. | 0:48:13 | 0:48:16 | |
These children are already expert swimmers. | 0:48:28 | 0:48:31 | |
Bajo tradition is that newborn babies, just a few days old, are dropped into the sea | 0:48:31 | 0:48:37 | |
by their fathers, to introduce them to the environment which plays a crucial part in their lives. | 0:48:37 | 0:48:42 | |
The kids here are a little bit too good in the water. They keep using us as a climbing frame. | 0:48:52 | 0:48:57 | |
I've been kicked in the face twice by small urchins. | 0:48:57 | 0:49:00 | |
All of this play means that by the time they're adults, the children will be highly skilled divers. | 0:49:17 | 0:49:23 | |
The men hold their breath underwater for up to five minutes at a time. | 0:49:29 | 0:49:33 | |
They go to the bottom to harvest a slug-shaped creature called a sea cucumber, | 0:49:33 | 0:49:40 | |
which is closely related to anemones. | 0:49:40 | 0:49:43 | |
Fish are caught with homemade spear guns. | 0:49:46 | 0:49:49 | |
It's really quite a sight, just beneath the boat | 0:49:49 | 0:49:52 | |
because the divers are just hanging motionless in the water with their spears | 0:49:52 | 0:49:59 | |
waiting for a fish to swim by in front of them. | 0:49:59 | 0:50:02 | |
It's just amazing, just watching them just waiting there - | 0:50:02 | 0:50:06 | |
it's a totally inhuman thing to do really, | 0:50:06 | 0:50:08 | |
just hanging around underneath the water without requiring air. | 0:50:08 | 0:50:12 | |
I decided to follow the men under and try and stay with them, as they hunted for fish. | 0:50:17 | 0:50:22 | |
But a city lad like me was never going to last long with men who grew up in these waters. | 0:50:36 | 0:50:42 | |
The exotic fish they catch mainly go to Japan and China. | 0:50:50 | 0:50:55 | |
Export firms have encouraged the Bajo to use hoses carrying pressurised air | 0:50:55 | 0:51:00 | |
to allow them to stay underwater for longer to increase their catch, | 0:51:00 | 0:51:04 | |
but this has led to deaths from the bends | 0:51:04 | 0:51:06 | |
and there are now dozens of men in this community who are permanently disabled. | 0:51:06 | 0:51:11 | |
Oyster, big oyster. | 0:51:20 | 0:51:22 | |
A huge one. | 0:51:22 | 0:51:24 | |
Anything inside? | 0:51:26 | 0:51:29 | |
It's really picked up suddenly. | 0:51:39 | 0:51:43 | |
Suddenly it's got choppier so... | 0:51:43 | 0:51:46 | |
We don't want to risk the boat sinking with the camera. | 0:51:46 | 0:51:50 | |
Whoa! I think I weigh a bit too much. | 0:51:58 | 0:52:01 | |
Quite a lot of water is sloshing into the boat. | 0:52:15 | 0:52:18 | |
It's going into their sago, and in here... | 0:52:18 | 0:52:22 | |
Is there a danger of the boat sinking? | 0:52:25 | 0:52:28 | |
-Yes? -It's nearly sinking. -You think we're sinking now?! | 0:52:29 | 0:52:33 | |
We decided to try and outrun the coming storm. | 0:52:39 | 0:52:43 | |
-For -BLEEP -sake! | 0:52:50 | 0:52:52 | |
I thought these boats were supposed to be stable! | 0:52:53 | 0:52:55 | |
There's quite a bit of water coming in now, guys. | 0:52:59 | 0:53:02 | |
We made it to calmer waters, but the small boats weren't built | 0:53:02 | 0:53:06 | |
to carry my heavy western frame, and it was still going down. | 0:53:06 | 0:53:10 | |
There's a boat coming to rescue us, | 0:53:12 | 0:53:14 | |
but they still think we're too overloaded, so I'm going to get out. Goodbye! Agh! | 0:53:15 | 0:53:22 | |
A more reliable passenger vessel calls daily at one of the neighbouring islands. | 0:53:25 | 0:53:31 | |
If we'd carried on east, | 0:53:44 | 0:53:45 | |
the journey would have taken us through the Moluccas Islands, | 0:53:45 | 0:53:49 | |
the last bit of Indonesian land on the Equator. | 0:53:49 | 0:53:51 | |
But there was a problem. | 0:53:51 | 0:53:53 | |
Christian-Muslim clashes, and a militant independence struggle | 0:53:53 | 0:53:57 | |
meant we were forbidden by the government from going there. | 0:53:57 | 0:54:00 | |
So the ferry took me north across the Equator to the town of Gorontalo. | 0:54:00 | 0:54:05 | |
I thought our Indonesian adventure was over... but I was wrong. | 0:54:05 | 0:54:09 | |
We arrived right in the middle of a major flood. | 0:54:09 | 0:54:12 | |
Heavy rain had been falling all night. | 0:54:12 | 0:54:15 | |
The river is right up, just underneath the bridge now. | 0:54:21 | 0:54:24 | |
The water is absolutely raging underneath here. | 0:54:25 | 0:54:29 | |
You see the power lines just here, that are hanging into the water? | 0:54:29 | 0:54:33 | |
The houses by the side of the river on the riverbank | 0:54:35 | 0:54:39 | |
are clearly over the first-floor window there. | 0:54:39 | 0:54:43 | |
This doesn't feel a very stable or safe place to be at the moment, so we're going to go across. | 0:54:46 | 0:54:52 | |
The flooding had ripped through the town, and the only way for us to get out was to wade. | 0:55:02 | 0:55:07 | |
It's just an utterly bizarre situation, | 0:55:12 | 0:55:15 | |
where we really are walking past all these houses which are completely flooded. | 0:55:15 | 0:55:21 | |
Really, this country, | 0:55:24 | 0:55:26 | |
it's been through... | 0:55:26 | 0:55:28 | |
they had floods here a week ago, | 0:55:28 | 0:55:31 | |
there's a huge volcano that's about to erupt in Indonesia, | 0:55:31 | 0:55:36 | |
they had mud landslides. | 0:55:36 | 0:55:39 | |
The current is very strong here. | 0:55:48 | 0:55:51 | |
What are you talking about? Football? | 0:55:58 | 0:56:00 | |
Soccer? | 0:56:00 | 0:56:04 | |
-Italy? -England. | 0:56:04 | 0:56:08 | |
THEY CHEER | 0:56:08 | 0:56:11 | |
Very popular! | 0:56:11 | 0:56:14 | |
David Beckham yes, I've heard of him. Michael Owen, yes. | 0:56:14 | 0:56:19 | |
An excellent footballer. | 0:56:19 | 0:56:21 | |
England, England! | 0:56:21 | 0:56:24 | |
Don't you worry about the flood, just concentrate on the football! | 0:56:24 | 0:56:27 | |
Everything will be OK! | 0:56:27 | 0:56:29 | |
Whoa! | 0:56:34 | 0:56:37 | |
I can really, really feel it. | 0:56:37 | 0:56:39 | |
No, you have a cigarette! That's OK. | 0:56:42 | 0:56:44 | |
It's really, really strong, just to warn you! | 0:56:49 | 0:56:52 | |
The flooding across Sulawesi had claimed more than 200 lives, | 0:57:20 | 0:57:25 | |
and 4,500 people were evacuated from Gorontalo. | 0:57:25 | 0:57:29 | |
Well, we've made it out of the flood waters, | 0:57:37 | 0:57:40 | |
now we need to get to the airport | 0:57:40 | 0:57:42 | |
and then this should really be the end of our journey across Indonesia. | 0:57:42 | 0:57:47 | |
We had wanted to go further east and visit other places on the Equator, | 0:57:47 | 0:57:51 | |
but the Indonesian government said we couldn't - we weren't allowed - too much conflict, | 0:57:51 | 0:57:56 | |
and so this is really where our journey across Indonesia ends. | 0:57:56 | 0:58:01 | |
I'd had an incredible journey through idyllic islands, | 0:58:10 | 0:58:15 | |
threatened rainforests, and met some amazing people. | 0:58:15 | 0:58:18 | |
From Indonesia, the Equator crosses 11,000 miles of Pacific Ocean before it hits land again. | 0:58:20 | 0:58:27 | |
So my next destination, as I follow the Equator around the world, | 0:58:27 | 0:58:32 | |
is the Galapagos Islands. | 0:58:32 | 0:58:34 | |
Subtitles by Red Bee Media Ltd - 2006 | 0:58:50 | 0:58:54 | |
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