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Across the world, tens of thousands of people | 0:00:07 | 0:00:09 | |
have been part of a truly remarkable scientific project. | 0:00:09 | 0:00:13 | |
It's altering our understanding of what made you the way you are today. | 0:00:13 | 0:00:19 | |
Scientists think they have discovered in these people's lives | 0:00:20 | 0:00:25 | |
the secret of a healthy, happy, long life... | 0:00:25 | 0:00:29 | |
for all of us. | 0:00:29 | 0:00:31 | |
Studying our journeys from baby to adulthood | 0:00:36 | 0:00:38 | |
is revealing the most important part of your life, | 0:00:38 | 0:00:42 | |
maybe one you can't even remember. | 0:00:42 | 0:00:45 | |
The nine months before you were born. | 0:00:45 | 0:00:48 | |
When we think of what makes us unique, | 0:00:48 | 0:00:50 | |
we don't tend to think of life before birth, | 0:00:50 | 0:00:52 | |
but we're finding out that life before birth | 0:00:52 | 0:00:54 | |
is actually shaping who we are and who we become. | 0:00:54 | 0:00:57 | |
The importance of those crucial months before birth | 0:01:03 | 0:01:06 | |
has become one of the most powerful and provocative new ideas in science. | 0:01:06 | 0:01:11 | |
The whole idea was extremely controversial. | 0:01:14 | 0:01:16 | |
It blew me away, actually. | 0:01:16 | 0:01:18 | |
It was an incredible idea, a real paradigm shift. | 0:01:18 | 0:01:21 | |
Understanding what happened to us in the mysterious world of the womb | 0:01:27 | 0:01:30 | |
holds the promise of living not just longer lives, | 0:01:30 | 0:01:34 | |
but healthier and happier ones. | 0:01:34 | 0:01:36 | |
This is the story of one man's struggle to unravel our destiny. | 0:01:54 | 0:01:59 | |
It begins in Britain over 20 years ago. | 0:02:05 | 0:02:08 | |
Professor David Barker | 0:02:14 | 0:02:16 | |
had spent much of his life as a practising doctor, | 0:02:16 | 0:02:18 | |
and he thought he'd discovered | 0:02:18 | 0:02:20 | |
a way to predict the future of each and every one of us. | 0:02:20 | 0:02:25 | |
He began to test this idea on the people in this room. | 0:02:34 | 0:02:40 | |
They're not part of a scientific research group or a hi-tech lab. | 0:02:44 | 0:02:50 | |
They are simply people who happen to be born in Hertfordshire. | 0:02:50 | 0:02:55 | |
Very evocative. | 0:02:59 | 0:03:01 | |
This reminds me of the way I used to go to school. | 0:03:01 | 0:03:04 | |
I used to walk along a road past a ford every day, | 0:03:04 | 0:03:08 | |
and then in the summer we would play in it just like these children do. | 0:03:08 | 0:03:15 | |
He believed from the moment they were born, | 0:03:15 | 0:03:17 | |
scientific predictions could be made about these people's lives. | 0:03:17 | 0:03:21 | |
I think their destiny is in large part already wrought. | 0:03:21 | 0:03:27 | |
Much of their lifetime's well-being | 0:03:27 | 0:03:31 | |
and ability - mental ability, physical ability and health - | 0:03:31 | 0:03:35 | |
is already determined. | 0:03:35 | 0:03:37 | |
How long they would live. | 0:03:39 | 0:03:41 | |
How healthy they would be. | 0:03:41 | 0:03:43 | |
Whether they would have a happy and fulfilled old age. | 0:03:43 | 0:03:47 | |
Well, these people are clearly fit. | 0:03:47 | 0:03:49 | |
If you're still able to run and win cups at 70, | 0:03:49 | 0:03:53 | |
you had a strong constitution. | 0:03:53 | 0:03:56 | |
He believed he could make these predictions | 0:03:56 | 0:04:00 | |
using only the information contained in these books - | 0:04:00 | 0:04:04 | |
the birth records of the county of Hertfordshire. | 0:04:06 | 0:04:09 | |
The books record the birth weights | 0:04:12 | 0:04:15 | |
and the weights at one of these men and women, | 0:04:15 | 0:04:18 | |
and in those measurements | 0:04:18 | 0:04:21 | |
lie a description of the life that lies ahead of them, | 0:04:21 | 0:04:25 | |
in terms of health. | 0:04:25 | 0:04:27 | |
David Barker believed that in these records | 0:04:27 | 0:04:30 | |
he had found a simple and powerful link | 0:04:30 | 0:04:33 | |
between a low weight at birth and heart disease in later life. | 0:04:33 | 0:04:38 | |
The babies who go on to develop coronary heart disease | 0:04:38 | 0:04:41 | |
were not abnormal in any way. | 0:04:41 | 0:04:44 | |
When they were born, their arrival was greeted with the usual enthusiasm. | 0:04:44 | 0:04:49 | |
But they were already marked. | 0:04:49 | 0:04:51 | |
The idea that future health was linked to birth weight became known as the Barker theory, | 0:04:54 | 0:05:01 | |
and it sounded too simple to be true. | 0:05:01 | 0:05:03 | |
That's the first time I've actually heard that, | 0:05:06 | 0:05:09 | |
that your weight at birth determines what health risk | 0:05:09 | 0:05:11 | |
you're going to have later on in life. That's weird. | 0:05:11 | 0:05:14 | |
Really? No. | 0:05:16 | 0:05:18 | |
No, I haven't, no. | 0:05:18 | 0:05:19 | |
I would not think that | 0:05:21 | 0:05:22 | |
that had any relation to a disease later in your life. | 0:05:22 | 0:05:27 | |
I think it's more to do with lifestyle factors and things as you grow old, | 0:05:27 | 0:05:30 | |
so that your weight when you're a child I can't imagine | 0:05:30 | 0:05:33 | |
would have a big impact on those kind of factors when you're older. | 0:05:33 | 0:05:36 | |
Critics of the Barker theory | 0:05:39 | 0:05:40 | |
thought there were other explanations for our health | 0:05:40 | 0:05:43 | |
and well-being in later life. | 0:05:43 | 0:05:46 | |
Conventional wisdom said we turned out the way we did | 0:05:46 | 0:05:49 | |
because of what we ate as children, | 0:05:49 | 0:05:51 | |
or the lifestyle choices we made as adults. | 0:05:51 | 0:05:55 | |
From diet to exercise, | 0:05:58 | 0:06:00 | |
we were encouraged to take control of our own destiny, | 0:06:00 | 0:06:03 | |
and that a long and happy life would be the result. | 0:06:03 | 0:06:08 | |
But David Barker believed birth weight | 0:06:13 | 0:06:15 | |
was more important than lifestyle when it came to future health. | 0:06:15 | 0:06:20 | |
His task was to turn conventional wisdom on its head. | 0:06:20 | 0:06:25 | |
To silence his critics, David embarked on a worldwide search. | 0:06:31 | 0:06:36 | |
He has travelled to the four corners of the globe | 0:06:42 | 0:06:45 | |
to find crucial evidence to back up his provocative theory. | 0:06:45 | 0:06:48 | |
Because to prove this theory, | 0:06:52 | 0:06:53 | |
he needed to show that his ideas held true | 0:06:53 | 0:06:58 | |
on every continent and for each and every one of us. | 0:06:58 | 0:07:01 | |
We're trying to establish really core truths | 0:07:06 | 0:07:08 | |
which would apply anywhere in the world, | 0:07:08 | 0:07:12 | |
and no-one is going to think that findings | 0:07:12 | 0:07:15 | |
that are based on a southern county in England | 0:07:15 | 0:07:20 | |
represent the globe, | 0:07:20 | 0:07:22 | |
and the only thing you can do to offset that reasonable criticism | 0:07:22 | 0:07:27 | |
is to go out and do it. | 0:07:27 | 0:07:28 | |
In 1995, one of the key pieces of evidence for the Barker theory | 0:07:33 | 0:07:38 | |
emerged from one of the most crowded countries in the world. | 0:07:38 | 0:07:43 | |
By a quirk of fate, the people here | 0:07:43 | 0:07:45 | |
followed every piece of healthy living advice you can think of. | 0:07:45 | 0:07:50 | |
According to conventional wisdom, these Indian villagers | 0:07:50 | 0:07:54 | |
had made all the right choices to lead a long and healthy life. | 0:07:54 | 0:07:57 | |
And yet they were getting diseases | 0:08:02 | 0:08:05 | |
normally seen in unhealthy, overweight people. | 0:08:05 | 0:08:08 | |
This was a real puzzle for us. | 0:08:08 | 0:08:10 | |
They are thin, they are eating the vegetables they grow in their farms. | 0:08:10 | 0:08:14 | |
They walk long distances, they work in the farms, | 0:08:14 | 0:08:19 | |
and that's the puzzle. | 0:08:19 | 0:08:21 | |
These people are anything but overweight and obese. | 0:08:21 | 0:08:24 | |
Professor Ranjan Yajnik is a world-renowned diabetes specialist. | 0:08:24 | 0:08:29 | |
And he's facing a diabetes epidemic in India. | 0:08:31 | 0:08:34 | |
In the Western world, | 0:08:39 | 0:08:40 | |
type-2 diabetes is seen as a disease of lifestyle. | 0:08:40 | 0:08:46 | |
It's associated with being overweight, | 0:08:46 | 0:08:48 | |
a lack of exercise and an unhealthy diet. | 0:08:48 | 0:08:52 | |
But Ranjan's patients didn't fit that pattern. | 0:08:52 | 0:08:56 | |
The Western textbooks I read as a medical student | 0:08:58 | 0:09:02 | |
told me that diabetic patients were fat and overweight, | 0:09:02 | 0:09:05 | |
but you come to the clinic in the rural hospital | 0:09:05 | 0:09:09 | |
and these are the people who fill up our clinics. | 0:09:09 | 0:09:12 | |
They have a lot of diabetes and heart disease. | 0:09:12 | 0:09:16 | |
The lifestyle of Ranjan's patients | 0:09:25 | 0:09:28 | |
should have given them a long and healthy old age. | 0:09:28 | 0:09:31 | |
It couldn't explain why so many of them | 0:09:31 | 0:09:35 | |
were falling victim to type-2 diabetes. | 0:09:35 | 0:09:38 | |
But for one person, lifestyle was clearly not the answer. | 0:09:38 | 0:09:42 | |
According to David Barker, a low weight at birth | 0:09:47 | 0:09:50 | |
could be linked to later health problems like diabetes. | 0:09:50 | 0:09:55 | |
BABY CRIES | 0:09:55 | 0:09:58 | |
And in India, there was no shortage of low birth weight children. | 0:10:01 | 0:10:06 | |
Was the key to the disease already there in these tiny babies? | 0:10:18 | 0:10:23 | |
Ranjan and his colleagues decided to find out if the Barker theory | 0:10:28 | 0:10:32 | |
might explain what they were seeing. | 0:10:32 | 0:10:35 | |
Well, there was a lot of scepticism at that stage | 0:10:37 | 0:10:40 | |
because we had learnt as paediatricians at that time | 0:10:40 | 0:10:43 | |
that low birth weight is associated with poverty and malnutrition, | 0:10:43 | 0:10:48 | |
whereas diabetes and hypertension are diseases of affluence, | 0:10:48 | 0:10:52 | |
diseases of lifestyle. | 0:10:52 | 0:10:54 | |
So how were the two going together? | 0:10:54 | 0:10:56 | |
I was trained as an adult diabetes specialist | 0:10:56 | 0:11:00 | |
and I was even more sceptical of this idea | 0:11:00 | 0:11:03 | |
because we equated diabetes with over-nutrition. | 0:11:03 | 0:11:06 | |
So David Barker was describing the other end of the spectrum. | 0:11:06 | 0:11:10 | |
We do have a large number of low birth weights | 0:11:10 | 0:11:13 | |
and we are having a large number of diabetics. | 0:11:13 | 0:11:16 | |
So we are probably in a good position to test his hypothesis, | 0:11:16 | 0:11:20 | |
so why not try it? | 0:11:20 | 0:11:21 | |
Ranjan and his colleagues began to follow a group of babies | 0:11:26 | 0:11:31 | |
to see if their birth weight could be linked to later diabetes. | 0:11:31 | 0:11:35 | |
Babies were measured when they were born, | 0:11:39 | 0:11:42 | |
then at four years of age, and again at eight years. | 0:11:42 | 0:11:46 | |
The scientists were looking for early signs of diabetes - | 0:11:48 | 0:11:51 | |
for instance, a resistance to insulin. | 0:11:51 | 0:11:54 | |
The first step was to show | 0:11:56 | 0:11:59 | |
that birth weight was related to insulin resistance. | 0:11:59 | 0:12:04 | |
And we did tests by studying 200 children born in our hospital. | 0:12:04 | 0:12:08 | |
The children from that original study are now 21. | 0:12:12 | 0:12:15 | |
The scientists have records of their growth from the day they were born, | 0:12:17 | 0:12:21 | |
as well as a library of blood samples. | 0:12:21 | 0:12:24 | |
It is these blood samples | 0:12:27 | 0:12:29 | |
that allowed the scientists to find an early indicator of diabetes. | 0:12:29 | 0:12:33 | |
A low birth weight seemed to be linked to a resistance to insulin. | 0:12:37 | 0:12:41 | |
So children whom we had found to be low birth weight, | 0:12:43 | 0:12:47 | |
they are more insulin-resistant at four years. | 0:12:47 | 0:12:50 | |
They were more insulin-resistant at eight years, | 0:12:50 | 0:12:54 | |
and they are still insulin-resistant at 21 years. | 0:12:54 | 0:12:57 | |
With passage of years, their blood glucose has started rising. | 0:12:57 | 0:13:01 | |
There are other changes we can observe in the blood | 0:13:01 | 0:13:05 | |
which tell us that their risk of getting diabetes is now much higher | 0:13:05 | 0:13:10 | |
than their colleagues who were not low birth weight. | 0:13:10 | 0:13:14 | |
Ranjan was beginning to be converted to David Barker's | 0:13:19 | 0:13:22 | |
seemingly strange idea | 0:13:22 | 0:13:24 | |
that what happens to you in the womb affects your destiny. | 0:13:24 | 0:13:28 | |
So David's idea that part of your destiny | 0:13:30 | 0:13:34 | |
was sealed before you are born | 0:13:34 | 0:13:36 | |
was difficult to understand for Westerners, but not for me. | 0:13:36 | 0:13:41 | |
As an Indian, I believed that what happened in your earlier life, | 0:13:41 | 0:13:46 | |
what your parents did, | 0:13:46 | 0:13:48 | |
actually had a bearing on what happens to you in your life. | 0:13:48 | 0:13:52 | |
This is the theory of karma. | 0:13:52 | 0:13:54 | |
This study was a crucial piece of evidence | 0:13:58 | 0:14:01 | |
to support David Barker's theory. | 0:14:01 | 0:14:04 | |
But the real power of the Barker theory | 0:14:07 | 0:14:09 | |
was that it didn't just apply to very tiny babies. | 0:14:09 | 0:14:13 | |
The predictive power of birth weight applies to us all. | 0:14:13 | 0:14:18 | |
What was surprising about these early data | 0:14:18 | 0:14:21 | |
was that there was a graded relationship | 0:14:21 | 0:14:24 | |
across a whole normal range of birth weight, | 0:14:24 | 0:14:26 | |
so it was better to be a seven-pound baby than a six-pound baby, | 0:14:26 | 0:14:30 | |
and better to be an eight than a seven and better to be a nine than an eight-pound baby, | 0:14:30 | 0:14:34 | |
and that is profound. | 0:14:34 | 0:14:38 | |
What this suggested was that there was an element of destiny | 0:14:38 | 0:14:41 | |
to the future health of each and every one of us. | 0:14:41 | 0:14:45 | |
Look, look around you. | 0:14:46 | 0:14:49 | |
Clearly there are people on very unhealthy lifestyles, | 0:14:49 | 0:14:54 | |
who live long lives and have good constitutions, | 0:14:54 | 0:14:56 | |
and for them healthy lifestyles may not matter so much. | 0:14:56 | 0:15:00 | |
But there are other people who are highly vulnerable, | 0:15:00 | 0:15:03 | |
who have poor constitutions, | 0:15:03 | 0:15:05 | |
and for them the lifestyle is the way forward. | 0:15:05 | 0:15:07 | |
That is what will protect them. | 0:15:07 | 0:15:09 | |
An idea that began in Hertfordshire was starting to | 0:15:11 | 0:15:13 | |
reveal universal truths about how our future health | 0:15:13 | 0:15:16 | |
was determined before we were even born, | 0:15:16 | 0:15:19 | |
and what's true of health may extend to our personality. | 0:15:19 | 0:15:24 | |
Oh, my goodness, for each of them? | 0:15:26 | 0:15:29 | |
I have two children and from day one their personalities came out. | 0:15:29 | 0:15:33 | |
I have three children. My oldest is very outgoing, | 0:15:33 | 0:15:39 | |
my middle child is very wild and adventurous | 0:15:39 | 0:15:43 | |
and my youngest is the easy-going, carefree child. | 0:15:43 | 0:15:49 | |
Only a fortune-teller | 0:15:49 | 0:15:51 | |
would attempt to predict the person we will become | 0:15:51 | 0:15:54 | |
well before we were even born. | 0:15:54 | 0:15:56 | |
Before we could speak. | 0:15:56 | 0:15:58 | |
Before we'd even met our mother face to face. | 0:15:58 | 0:16:03 | |
Yet many pregnant women think they can. | 0:16:03 | 0:16:06 | |
I have one child | 0:16:07 | 0:16:09 | |
and she was just a diva from before she was even born. | 0:16:09 | 0:16:13 | |
While they were in the womb, they were very different. | 0:16:13 | 0:16:16 | |
This one's definitely calm like my first, | 0:16:16 | 0:16:19 | |
but strong like my second. | 0:16:19 | 0:16:22 | |
Janet DiPietro is putting this mother's intuition to the test. | 0:16:24 | 0:16:29 | |
She's a mother of three and a developmental psychologist. | 0:16:31 | 0:16:34 | |
She wants to discover how much of our future character is formed | 0:16:38 | 0:16:41 | |
before we've even experienced the world. | 0:16:41 | 0:16:44 | |
Her work begins by trying to give what is, in effect, | 0:16:44 | 0:16:49 | |
a personality test to an unborn baby. | 0:16:49 | 0:16:52 | |
So in adults and young people and children, | 0:16:52 | 0:16:56 | |
when we want to look at individual differences, | 0:16:56 | 0:17:00 | |
what we often do is put them in a new situation to see how they react | 0:17:00 | 0:17:04 | |
because how people react to things | 0:17:04 | 0:17:06 | |
is a big component of what makes them unique. | 0:17:06 | 0:17:08 | |
To unpick the personality question, | 0:17:12 | 0:17:14 | |
Janet needed a way to test the reactions of unborn babies. | 0:17:14 | 0:17:19 | |
She started by looking at the way these tests | 0:17:20 | 0:17:23 | |
were conducted in children. | 0:17:23 | 0:17:24 | |
Some of the 900 babies that have passed through her lab | 0:17:29 | 0:17:33 | |
are now five years old, and they're back | 0:17:33 | 0:17:36 | |
to undergo more testing. | 0:17:36 | 0:17:38 | |
Right here. | 0:17:38 | 0:17:41 | |
It's just telling us about how your body's working, OK? | 0:17:41 | 0:17:43 | |
The experiments put the children | 0:17:48 | 0:17:51 | |
in unusual situations to see how they react. | 0:17:51 | 0:17:53 | |
-Woof. -Good. | 0:17:53 | 0:17:56 | |
Asking them to miaow when they see a dog. | 0:17:56 | 0:18:00 | |
Or getting them to share with adults, who start to behave | 0:18:00 | 0:18:04 | |
like greedy children. | 0:18:04 | 0:18:06 | |
..Give you one, and then I'll take two. | 0:18:06 | 0:18:08 | |
One, two. | 0:18:08 | 0:18:10 | |
At five, differences in personality begin to show | 0:18:10 | 0:18:13 | |
in the way children respond to these unusual circumstances. | 0:18:13 | 0:18:18 | |
You can see it in their behaviour | 0:18:18 | 0:18:20 | |
and in their heart rates and stress levels. | 0:18:20 | 0:18:23 | |
But I really like these candies, so I'm going to take two. One, two. | 0:18:23 | 0:18:28 | |
I like them, too! | 0:18:28 | 0:18:30 | |
You do? | 0:18:30 | 0:18:31 | |
I'm going to give you one, but I'll take four more. | 0:18:31 | 0:18:34 | |
-No! You're taking all of it! -One, two, three, four. | 0:18:34 | 0:18:37 | |
'That little boy was almost a little bit more intellectual.' | 0:18:37 | 0:18:41 | |
He was adamant when he had his expectations about sharing... | 0:18:41 | 0:18:47 | |
broken, and so he said "no" immediately, | 0:18:47 | 0:18:50 | |
'and then he sort of moved on and he watched what was happening | 0:18:50 | 0:18:54 | |
'with the investigator, but he was really more adamant.' | 0:18:54 | 0:18:58 | |
What do you think about that? | 0:18:58 | 0:19:00 | |
No. | 0:19:00 | 0:19:01 | |
'Whereas if we look at the first little boy...' | 0:19:06 | 0:19:08 | |
What do you think about that, if I take all of them? | 0:19:08 | 0:19:11 | |
..you can see that he really feels what's going on, | 0:19:17 | 0:19:20 | |
so he'll experience that very differently in his body, too. | 0:19:20 | 0:19:24 | |
I really like them, but I think I'll get a stomach ache | 0:19:24 | 0:19:27 | |
if I eat them all. | 0:19:27 | 0:19:29 | |
Some of us react very emotionally to changes in circumstances. | 0:19:29 | 0:19:32 | |
Our heart rates and stress levels soar. | 0:19:32 | 0:19:36 | |
While others seem to have no trouble keeping their body under control. | 0:19:38 | 0:19:43 | |
The characteristics that distinguish all of us | 0:19:43 | 0:19:46 | |
are how we react to things | 0:19:46 | 0:19:49 | |
and then how we recover after something happens. | 0:19:49 | 0:19:52 | |
Those are called the core features of temperament. | 0:19:52 | 0:19:55 | |
We can see them in six-month-olds, we can see them in five-year-olds, | 0:19:55 | 0:19:58 | |
and in adults it's a more refined set of traits, | 0:19:58 | 0:20:03 | |
but the core is reactivity and recovery irregulation. | 0:20:03 | 0:20:08 | |
Janet can even see these core responses, | 0:20:08 | 0:20:11 | |
how extreme our reaction to a new situation is and how quickly we recover, | 0:20:11 | 0:20:16 | |
in the heart rate and stress levels of six-month-olds. | 0:20:16 | 0:20:19 | |
If they were already there at six months, | 0:20:25 | 0:20:27 | |
could these core personality traits | 0:20:27 | 0:20:29 | |
start even earlier, back in the womb? | 0:20:29 | 0:20:32 | |
Janet's experiments allow her to see how babies react to | 0:20:34 | 0:20:37 | |
a change in circumstances, even before they're born. | 0:20:37 | 0:20:42 | |
First, she provokes strong emotions in the pregnant mother | 0:20:44 | 0:20:48 | |
by showing her a video about childbirth. | 0:20:48 | 0:20:51 | |
As the mother's heart rate and stress levels change, | 0:20:51 | 0:20:53 | |
Janet watches to see how the baby responds. | 0:20:53 | 0:20:58 | |
Or she can take a simpler approach, and surprise the babies directly. | 0:21:00 | 0:21:06 | |
The mum is wearing the spa mask and the headphones. | 0:21:06 | 0:21:10 | |
She's listening to music, so she can't hear the stimulus, | 0:21:10 | 0:21:13 | |
but the foetus can. | 0:21:13 | 0:21:15 | |
OK, are you ready? | 0:21:15 | 0:21:17 | |
I'm ready. | 0:21:17 | 0:21:18 | |
All right. Go. | 0:21:18 | 0:21:19 | |
I could see her abdomen jump, in fact. | 0:21:24 | 0:21:26 | |
You see a very quiet actograph and then just that discrete little jump. | 0:21:26 | 0:21:32 | |
The foetus is startled at things, just like babies. | 0:21:32 | 0:21:35 | |
Some babies, to that response, | 0:21:35 | 0:21:38 | |
startle so much that they wake up and they continue to move. | 0:21:38 | 0:21:43 | |
Some babies don't really react at all. | 0:21:43 | 0:21:46 | |
And then some babies, like this one, moved. | 0:21:48 | 0:21:51 | |
Looks like they gave a very specific response to it, | 0:21:51 | 0:21:55 | |
and then they went back to their own business. | 0:21:55 | 0:21:59 | |
Even one month before birth, | 0:22:01 | 0:22:03 | |
Janet can begin to see distinctive responses from the babies. | 0:22:03 | 0:22:08 | |
The core elements of our future personality. | 0:22:10 | 0:22:13 | |
It feels great to me as a mom to sort of validate moms everywhere, | 0:22:21 | 0:22:26 | |
that they didn't cause their child to behave this way, | 0:22:26 | 0:22:30 | |
that their child was already that way at birth. | 0:22:30 | 0:22:34 | |
But moms have to accept the good and the bad, right? | 0:22:34 | 0:22:38 | |
So if your child turns out a pleasant, happy child, | 0:22:38 | 0:22:42 | |
it's not... It's not your doing, | 0:22:42 | 0:22:47 | |
in the same way that if your child turns out to be | 0:22:47 | 0:22:50 | |
a very difficult, unhappy child, it's not your doing. | 0:22:50 | 0:22:53 | |
From the moment you're born, parts of your future health, | 0:23:04 | 0:23:08 | |
happiness and personality could already be determined. | 0:23:08 | 0:23:12 | |
But there may be a very simple explanation for this. | 0:23:17 | 0:23:21 | |
It could all be down to the genes we inherited from our parents. | 0:23:25 | 0:23:28 | |
David Barker needed to show it was your nine months in the womb | 0:23:30 | 0:23:35 | |
and not just your genes that made you...you. | 0:23:35 | 0:23:40 | |
Over ten years ago, | 0:23:46 | 0:23:48 | |
he began a collaboration with Dutch scientists. | 0:23:48 | 0:23:52 | |
It was already clear that in animals, manipulating | 0:23:52 | 0:23:55 | |
the environment in the womb altered the health of future generations. | 0:23:55 | 0:24:00 | |
It would be impossible to experiment on pregnant women in this way, | 0:24:02 | 0:24:06 | |
but sometimes history creates an experiment for you. | 0:24:06 | 0:24:10 | |
Holland, 1944. | 0:24:22 | 0:24:24 | |
The Nazis were retreating and leaving devastation in their wake. | 0:24:27 | 0:24:32 | |
All possible food had been commandeered. | 0:24:33 | 0:24:37 | |
The result, a country-wide famine which lasted five months. | 0:24:37 | 0:24:42 | |
Well, the Dutch famine occurred when the Germans | 0:24:42 | 0:24:46 | |
banned all food transport, | 0:24:46 | 0:24:47 | |
and suddenly rations dropped dramatically. | 0:24:47 | 0:24:50 | |
It was really an acute period of famine | 0:24:53 | 0:24:56 | |
that struck an entire population. | 0:24:56 | 0:24:58 | |
Biologist Tessa Roseboom saw an opportunity | 0:25:03 | 0:25:07 | |
to find out if our experience in the womb | 0:25:07 | 0:25:10 | |
was every bit as important as our genes. | 0:25:10 | 0:25:13 | |
There was hardly any food available | 0:25:13 | 0:25:17 | |
and we know from the records in Amsterdam that people ate | 0:25:17 | 0:25:20 | |
two slices of bread, two potatoes | 0:25:20 | 0:25:22 | |
and half a sugarbeet for the entire day. | 0:25:22 | 0:25:25 | |
So that's around 400 calories, | 0:25:25 | 0:25:28 | |
and we need about 2,000 to 2,500 a day. | 0:25:28 | 0:25:31 | |
Tessa began with the birth records of one Amsterdam hospital. | 0:25:35 | 0:25:39 | |
After two years of painstaking research, | 0:25:39 | 0:25:42 | |
she tracked down the people who had been born in the famine. | 0:25:42 | 0:25:46 | |
We have birth records of 2,414 babies, | 0:25:46 | 0:25:51 | |
who were all born in this hospital in Amsterdam. | 0:25:51 | 0:25:55 | |
We traced people and we interviewed lots of people in their homes | 0:25:55 | 0:25:59 | |
and then invited them to come to the clinic | 0:25:59 | 0:26:01 | |
for measurements, and then do obviously a lot of statistics behind the computer. | 0:26:01 | 0:26:07 | |
Tessa found that whatever genes they carried, | 0:26:10 | 0:26:13 | |
those exposed to the famine in the womb had more heart disease, | 0:26:13 | 0:26:17 | |
high blood pressure, raised cholesterol, diabetes and breast cancer. | 0:26:17 | 0:26:22 | |
And those who were conceived after the famine...didn't. | 0:26:22 | 0:26:26 | |
We did indeed find the brothers and sisters | 0:26:27 | 0:26:30 | |
of the people who were exposed to famine. | 0:26:30 | 0:26:34 | |
They had the same genes from the parents, | 0:26:34 | 0:26:35 | |
they had the same post-natal environment, they grew up | 0:26:35 | 0:26:39 | |
in the same family, but the ones who were exposed to the famine | 0:26:39 | 0:26:43 | |
while in the womb were actually less healthy. | 0:26:43 | 0:26:46 | |
The later ill-health was connected to the famine, | 0:26:48 | 0:26:50 | |
to what happened to these people in the womb. | 0:26:50 | 0:26:54 | |
And the famine even had an effect | 0:26:59 | 0:27:01 | |
when it only lasted for the first 12 weeks of a pregnancy. | 0:27:01 | 0:27:05 | |
Well, as a biologist, it seems quite logical | 0:27:05 | 0:27:07 | |
that in the first 12 weeks in which you lay down your brain, | 0:27:07 | 0:27:10 | |
your heart, your lungs, your kidneys, all the essential organs, | 0:27:10 | 0:27:13 | |
if the quality of the building blocks is poor | 0:27:13 | 0:27:16 | |
then the organs aren't as healthy, | 0:27:16 | 0:27:19 | |
or aren't as good as one would have had with appropriate nutrition. | 0:27:19 | 0:27:24 | |
Because of the way our bodies grow, | 0:27:31 | 0:27:33 | |
the nine months that made you will also have made your children. | 0:27:33 | 0:27:38 | |
At the time of the Dutch famine, Tessa's grandmother was pregnant. | 0:27:41 | 0:27:45 | |
The egg that Tessa grew from was already there, | 0:27:47 | 0:27:51 | |
created inside Tessa's mother's body | 0:27:51 | 0:27:54 | |
when she was an unborn baby inside Tessa's grandmother. | 0:27:54 | 0:27:57 | |
So the egg that created Tessa | 0:28:03 | 0:28:05 | |
was also permanently altered by the Dutch famine. | 0:28:05 | 0:28:08 | |
Well, genes can't be changed by the food we eat, | 0:28:12 | 0:28:15 | |
but we know that food can actually change whether genes | 0:28:15 | 0:28:19 | |
are switched on or off. | 0:28:19 | 0:28:20 | |
So famine may have affected the switches on the genes in the egg | 0:28:20 | 0:28:26 | |
and therefore they may have affected | 0:28:26 | 0:28:29 | |
all the cells in the entire body of the next generation as well. | 0:28:29 | 0:28:33 | |
So of the grandchildren | 0:28:33 | 0:28:35 | |
of women who were pregnant at the time of the famine. | 0:28:35 | 0:28:38 | |
Tessa's work was powerful support for the argument | 0:28:40 | 0:28:44 | |
that our life in the womb, and not just our genes, | 0:28:44 | 0:28:47 | |
makes us more resilient to future disease. | 0:28:47 | 0:28:52 | |
The picture that's emerging | 0:28:52 | 0:28:54 | |
is that your early development sets up your constitution | 0:28:54 | 0:28:59 | |
and therefore sets up how vulnerable you are | 0:28:59 | 0:29:03 | |
to negative things that you may encounter through your life. | 0:29:03 | 0:29:07 | |
We've hitherto tried to answer that question by assuming that | 0:29:07 | 0:29:11 | |
there must be genes which explain it, but those genes have not come forward | 0:29:11 | 0:29:15 | |
and there isn't any particular reason why they will. | 0:29:15 | 0:29:18 | |
Why would such genes exist? | 0:29:18 | 0:29:20 | |
The theory was that the quality of nutrition you received in the womb | 0:29:25 | 0:29:29 | |
determined the quality of your growth before birth. | 0:29:29 | 0:29:33 | |
This development shapes your birth weight, | 0:29:34 | 0:29:37 | |
your life as a child and your health to the present day. | 0:29:37 | 0:29:41 | |
But one question remained- | 0:29:45 | 0:29:47 | |
what exactly was happening inside our bodies | 0:29:47 | 0:29:50 | |
in those crucial nine months that could shape our destiny? | 0:29:50 | 0:29:54 | |
Back in India, | 0:30:07 | 0:30:09 | |
Professor Ranjan Yaznik was asking himself the same question. | 0:30:09 | 0:30:13 | |
He had discovered low birth weight babies | 0:30:14 | 0:30:17 | |
were more likely to end up as diabetes patients in his clinic. | 0:30:17 | 0:30:20 | |
And the bad health went further. | 0:30:23 | 0:30:26 | |
At 21, some of them were already showing signs of plaque | 0:30:26 | 0:30:30 | |
forming in their arteries, an early indicator of heart disease. | 0:30:30 | 0:30:34 | |
Although these patients looked thin, | 0:30:36 | 0:30:39 | |
they were getting diseases normally seen in overweight and obese people. | 0:30:39 | 0:30:44 | |
There was something strange going on. | 0:30:53 | 0:30:54 | |
Why were these apparently thin people's bodies | 0:30:57 | 0:31:00 | |
behaving as if they were fat? | 0:31:00 | 0:31:03 | |
To find out, Ranjan did another study to measure the amount of body fat | 0:31:08 | 0:31:12 | |
these low birth weight babies were carrying. | 0:31:12 | 0:31:15 | |
The babies here were born at 2.7 kilograms, | 0:31:21 | 0:31:25 | |
but when we measured their body fat with special techniques, | 0:31:25 | 0:31:29 | |
we realised that they have body fat | 0:31:29 | 0:31:32 | |
which is as high as that of an English baby, | 0:31:32 | 0:31:35 | |
a baby weighing 3.5 kg. | 0:31:35 | 0:31:37 | |
Almost 800 grams heavier. | 0:31:37 | 0:31:40 | |
They appear very thin, but they are fat. | 0:31:40 | 0:31:43 | |
We found the same thing at four years. | 0:31:45 | 0:31:47 | |
They were thin and fat. At eight years again, | 0:31:47 | 0:31:50 | |
they were thin and fat, and at 21 years they're again thin and fat. | 0:31:50 | 0:31:54 | |
From birth, | 0:32:00 | 0:32:02 | |
it was as if these people's bodies had the wrong settings. | 0:32:02 | 0:32:05 | |
People with low birth weights looked thin, but they were actually | 0:32:07 | 0:32:11 | |
carrying the same amount of fat as someone much heavier than them. | 0:32:11 | 0:32:14 | |
Ranjan thought he, too, might have this unusual body composition | 0:32:20 | 0:32:24 | |
as he was also a low birth weight baby. | 0:32:24 | 0:32:27 | |
I was born less than five pounds and I thought we could investigate | 0:32:28 | 0:32:33 | |
to find out whether I was at the higher risk of diabetes. | 0:32:33 | 0:32:36 | |
So I did this by actually studying myself and my friend. | 0:32:36 | 0:32:41 | |
We have both same body mass index, 22.3, | 0:32:44 | 0:32:49 | |
but John has 9% body fat | 0:32:49 | 0:32:52 | |
and I have 21% body fat. | 0:32:52 | 0:32:54 | |
The same body mass index, | 0:32:54 | 0:32:56 | |
an Indian has more than twice the amount of fat | 0:32:56 | 0:33:00 | |
that an Englishman has. | 0:33:00 | 0:33:01 | |
This is a perfect example of a thin/fat Indian. | 0:33:01 | 0:33:05 | |
Ranjan decided to see if the mother's diet in pregnancy | 0:33:09 | 0:33:12 | |
could be causing these thin/fat bodies to develop. | 0:33:12 | 0:33:15 | |
He looked at every aspect of the diet... | 0:33:17 | 0:33:19 | |
and strangely he found it wasn't all about calories. | 0:33:19 | 0:33:24 | |
To our great surprise, it was not the mother's calorie | 0:33:28 | 0:33:31 | |
and the protein and the fat intake which predicted the foetal growth. | 0:33:31 | 0:33:36 | |
It was the... | 0:33:36 | 0:33:38 | |
eating of the micro-nutrient rich foods. | 0:33:38 | 0:33:43 | |
It was how much green vegetables, the fruits and the milk | 0:33:43 | 0:33:46 | |
which decided the size of the baby and how that baby was built. | 0:33:46 | 0:33:50 | |
Ranjan's work showed that it wasn't the quantity of food we received in the womb, | 0:33:52 | 0:33:56 | |
but getting the right vitamins and minerals which was crucial. | 0:33:56 | 0:34:00 | |
Mothers who had low B-12 and high foliate | 0:34:01 | 0:34:05 | |
gave birth to thin/fat babies | 0:34:05 | 0:34:07 | |
which were insulin resistant as children | 0:34:07 | 0:34:10 | |
and they seemed to be at higher risk of getting diabetes in future. | 0:34:10 | 0:34:15 | |
These small variations in diet | 0:34:26 | 0:34:28 | |
suggested that even quite ordinary changes in life before birth | 0:34:28 | 0:34:32 | |
can have noticeable effects on our future health. | 0:34:32 | 0:34:36 | |
The picture we now have is that normal human development is fragile. | 0:34:39 | 0:34:44 | |
That very often there is insufficient resource available to the baby | 0:34:44 | 0:34:49 | |
to perfect every bit of its body. | 0:34:49 | 0:34:52 | |
The body has repair mechanisms for mending broken bits. | 0:34:54 | 0:34:59 | |
The body has a store of stem cells of varying quality. | 0:34:59 | 0:35:04 | |
The body has immune defences, it has defences against oxygen, | 0:35:04 | 0:35:09 | |
and the quality of these systems | 0:35:09 | 0:35:14 | |
determines the quality of health through life | 0:35:14 | 0:35:17 | |
because health is essentially about the body's ability | 0:35:17 | 0:35:20 | |
to maintain equilibrium in the face of challenges. | 0:35:20 | 0:35:25 | |
If our future health was determined by the quality of our growth | 0:35:26 | 0:35:30 | |
in the womb, David Barker saw an intriguing possibility - | 0:35:30 | 0:35:35 | |
the chance to intervene and prevent all these diseases of later life. | 0:35:35 | 0:35:39 | |
It was becoming clear to him that if you wanted a healthy happy old age, | 0:35:41 | 0:35:46 | |
the nine months you spent in the womb could be the most important nine months of your life. | 0:35:46 | 0:35:52 | |
Cheese! | 0:35:58 | 0:36:00 | |
Scientists are discovering it's not just the food that reaches us in the womb, | 0:36:01 | 0:36:07 | |
but also the hormones we're exposed to that could powerfully affect how our life unfolds. | 0:36:07 | 0:36:12 | |
These monkeys could hold clues that our behaviour is not all down to the way we were brought up. | 0:36:18 | 0:36:22 | |
According to Professor Melissa Hines of Cambridge University, | 0:36:25 | 0:36:29 | |
testosterone levels in the womb could have changed the way we think. | 0:36:29 | 0:36:33 | |
The reason people have gotten interested in testosterone levels | 0:36:34 | 0:36:38 | |
in human beings is because there's thousands of studies in other species | 0:36:38 | 0:36:43 | |
that show that if you manipulate testosterone experimentally | 0:36:43 | 0:36:47 | |
during development, it influences the way the brain develops | 0:36:47 | 0:36:52 | |
and as a consequence of that, the individual's behaviour | 0:36:52 | 0:36:55 | |
across the lifespan in respect of behaviours that differ for males and females. | 0:36:55 | 0:37:00 | |
Melissa has found the same effects of testosterone in the womb in both monkeys and children. | 0:37:11 | 0:37:17 | |
Female humans, and other primates, tend to play with this sort of toy... | 0:37:17 | 0:37:21 | |
Baby. | 0:37:24 | 0:37:27 | |
..while the males, whether monkey or man, go for another kind. | 0:37:27 | 0:37:30 | |
My favourite is the fire engine. | 0:37:32 | 0:37:34 | |
But the female monkeys, and the girls, with higher testosterone levels in the womb | 0:37:36 | 0:37:41 | |
end up acting more like the males | 0:37:41 | 0:37:43 | |
and ditch the dolls for the trucks. | 0:37:43 | 0:37:46 | |
More testosterone exposure makes your behaviour more male. | 0:37:50 | 0:37:53 | |
So in two recent studies, we've looked at normal variability. | 0:37:55 | 0:37:59 | |
In the first instance by measuring maternal testosterone during pregnancy | 0:37:59 | 0:38:04 | |
and in the second instance by looking at testosterone and amniotic fluid. | 0:38:04 | 0:38:09 | |
In both cases we find that the more testosterone the individual | 0:38:09 | 0:38:13 | |
was exposed to pre-natally, the more male-typical their childhood behaviour is. | 0:38:13 | 0:38:19 | |
So can you see this shape? | 0:38:19 | 0:38:20 | |
I think... | 0:38:20 | 0:38:23 | |
-it might be that one. -Yeah. | 0:38:23 | 0:38:26 | |
Other skills could be linked to testosterone levels in the womb, from reading emotions | 0:38:26 | 0:38:30 | |
to reading a map, | 0:38:30 | 0:38:32 | |
-or spotting hidden triangles in complex shapes. -Well done! | 0:38:32 | 0:38:37 | |
Could the level of testosterone in the womb be changing our brains, affecting our abilities? | 0:38:37 | 0:38:43 | |
It's a question another group of Cambridge scientists are studying | 0:38:44 | 0:38:47 | |
by looking at the brains of eight-year-olds in an MRI scanner. | 0:38:47 | 0:38:52 | |
So this is the human brain | 0:38:52 | 0:38:54 | |
and this white section that you see here is called the corpus closum. | 0:38:54 | 0:38:58 | |
It's a fibrotract that connects the right hemisphere to the left hemisphere. | 0:38:58 | 0:39:02 | |
One part of this region of the children's brains varied, | 0:39:05 | 0:39:08 | |
depending on the levels of testosterone in the womb. | 0:39:08 | 0:39:12 | |
So what we found is that low testosterone actually meant that | 0:39:14 | 0:39:18 | |
this part of the closum was bigger on the left side than on the right side. | 0:39:18 | 0:39:23 | |
This is one of the first times physical differences | 0:39:26 | 0:39:29 | |
in our brain have been directly linked to testosterone levels in the womb. | 0:39:29 | 0:39:33 | |
So we can really ask the question, is foetal testosterone a mechanism | 0:39:35 | 0:39:39 | |
that sort of pushes brains to being more male or more female? | 0:39:39 | 0:39:44 | |
This work with testosterone suggests hormones can have | 0:39:46 | 0:39:50 | |
a crucial impact during the nine months that made you. | 0:39:50 | 0:39:53 | |
And because they affect our brain, | 0:39:55 | 0:39:57 | |
they may affect all aspects of our personality. | 0:39:57 | 0:40:01 | |
CALL TO PRAYER | 0:40:05 | 0:40:08 | |
By 2011, David Barker had been working on his theory for over two decades. | 0:40:19 | 0:40:25 | |
He had evidence that the way we grew in the womb could have lasting effects on our health. | 0:40:26 | 0:40:31 | |
But now, he wanted to not just understand our destiny, | 0:40:34 | 0:40:37 | |
but potentially re-write it. | 0:40:37 | 0:40:39 | |
I'm here because there are potentially important | 0:40:41 | 0:40:45 | |
medical records here in the desert of Saudi Arabia. | 0:40:45 | 0:40:49 | |
Records like these are the key to David's work. | 0:41:04 | 0:41:08 | |
He's always looking for places where human experience creates a natural experiment. | 0:41:10 | 0:41:16 | |
David is working with Saudi scientists | 0:41:23 | 0:41:25 | |
to connect these records to real people living in the town of Unizah today. | 0:41:25 | 0:41:30 | |
We have three different types of records | 0:41:32 | 0:41:35 | |
that we can get a nice idea of the babies and how they grew up, | 0:41:35 | 0:41:40 | |
what problems they faced, | 0:41:40 | 0:41:42 | |
how this can be linked to the life in utero and so on. | 0:41:42 | 0:41:47 | |
We have found records in China, we have found records in India. | 0:41:48 | 0:41:52 | |
There are records in different European countries. | 0:41:52 | 0:41:56 | |
Some records in America. | 0:41:56 | 0:41:59 | |
Nothing like the records here, | 0:41:59 | 0:42:01 | |
so this is very exciting. | 0:42:01 | 0:42:03 | |
This latest set of records could reveal a crucial piece of the puzzle. | 0:42:06 | 0:42:10 | |
They contain the details of an overlooked companion | 0:42:13 | 0:42:16 | |
that shared our nine months in the mysterious world of the womb. | 0:42:16 | 0:42:21 | |
We all began life in a world of water... | 0:42:33 | 0:42:37 | |
..bathed in warm fluid, | 0:42:38 | 0:42:40 | |
surrounded by the muted sounds of the outside world and our mother's heartbeat. | 0:42:40 | 0:42:44 | |
Graham Burton of Cambridge University has been investigating | 0:42:49 | 0:42:53 | |
life in this strange world his entire career. | 0:42:53 | 0:42:57 | |
This is really where it all began. | 0:43:01 | 0:43:03 | |
There's general agreement that when life evolved on the planet, it did so in the seas. | 0:43:05 | 0:43:10 | |
And even today, we recreate this watery environment within the womb. | 0:43:13 | 0:43:18 | |
The baby develops within a sac of salty fluid, very similar to the sea. | 0:43:18 | 0:43:23 | |
It's not until the waters break at the time of delivery that we learn | 0:43:28 | 0:43:32 | |
to take our first breath of air. | 0:43:32 | 0:43:33 | |
Graham knew our mysterious companion in the womb | 0:43:40 | 0:43:43 | |
would be crucial to David Barker's work. | 0:43:43 | 0:43:46 | |
So when David first presented his theory, | 0:43:48 | 0:43:50 | |
I thought this was extremely interesting, but my first reaction | 0:43:50 | 0:43:54 | |
was of course, "Well, what about the placenta?" | 0:43:54 | 0:43:57 | |
Because everything that goes between the mother and the baby | 0:43:57 | 0:44:00 | |
must pass through the placenta. | 0:44:00 | 0:44:02 | |
Your placenta was created during the same nine months that made you. | 0:44:05 | 0:44:09 | |
It is the link between a baby, its mother | 0:44:10 | 0:44:14 | |
and the outside world. | 0:44:14 | 0:44:16 | |
Within the placenta there are these finger-like processes, | 0:44:18 | 0:44:21 | |
rather like the fronds of the seaweed. | 0:44:21 | 0:44:23 | |
Mother's blood comes in through the arteries | 0:44:25 | 0:44:28 | |
into this space within the placenta | 0:44:28 | 0:44:33 | |
and passes between these frond-like processes, | 0:44:33 | 0:44:36 | |
bringing oxygen and nutrients to the placenta. | 0:44:36 | 0:44:40 | |
Everything that reached us in the womb | 0:44:41 | 0:44:45 | |
passed through this extraordinary organ. | 0:44:45 | 0:44:47 | |
Of course, none of us would be here today without our placentas. | 0:44:47 | 0:44:51 | |
It's really an extension of us. It shares the same DNA | 0:44:51 | 0:44:55 | |
and in some cultures, it's almost considered a twin. | 0:44:55 | 0:44:59 | |
To really understand how we developed in the womb, we need to unravel the role of our placenta. | 0:45:01 | 0:45:07 | |
It acts as a selective barrier, | 0:45:09 | 0:45:12 | |
designed to both feed and protect the baby. | 0:45:12 | 0:45:15 | |
And Graham has discovered key evidence of exactly how this happens. | 0:45:17 | 0:45:21 | |
So for example, in placentas where the mother has smoked during pregnancy, | 0:45:24 | 0:45:29 | |
what we see is a reduction in the size of the blood vessels within the placenta | 0:45:29 | 0:45:34 | |
and a thickening of the barrier separating the mother's and the baby's blood. | 0:45:34 | 0:45:38 | |
So both of those effects will impair the transfer of nutrients | 0:45:38 | 0:45:43 | |
from the mother to the baby | 0:45:43 | 0:45:45 | |
and that may account for why the baby is smaller in women who smoke. | 0:45:45 | 0:45:50 | |
This is just one example of the many things which can affect | 0:45:54 | 0:45:58 | |
this delicate and responsive organ. | 0:45:58 | 0:46:00 | |
Graham's work shows just how important the placenta is during the nine months that made you. | 0:46:02 | 0:46:07 | |
Every placenta is different and in a way every placenta tells a story, | 0:46:10 | 0:46:15 | |
and if we can read the clues within the placenta, | 0:46:15 | 0:46:18 | |
then in a way we have a record of how the placenta and the baby develop | 0:46:18 | 0:46:22 | |
and that may help us in predicting the future health of the baby. | 0:46:22 | 0:46:27 | |
It's because our placenta has such a powerful influence on how our lives unfold | 0:46:36 | 0:46:41 | |
that David Barker has come to Saudi Arabia. | 0:46:41 | 0:46:43 | |
He has recently begun work with Dr Saleh Al-Wasel | 0:46:46 | 0:46:48 | |
of King Saud University in Riyadh. | 0:46:48 | 0:46:51 | |
They're in the early stages of an important new research project. | 0:46:55 | 0:46:58 | |
Hidden in the records of the Saudi town of Unizah, | 0:47:03 | 0:47:07 | |
Dr Al-Wasel has already found evidence of how the placenta | 0:47:07 | 0:47:10 | |
may protect the baby from changes in our mother's diet. | 0:47:10 | 0:47:14 | |
He's discovered the placenta seems to respond to Ramadan. | 0:47:16 | 0:47:20 | |
Ramadan is a month that most people here in Saudi Arabia | 0:47:22 | 0:47:25 | |
change their lifestyle. | 0:47:25 | 0:47:27 | |
The frequency of food, the amount of food and also the quality of food. | 0:47:31 | 0:47:36 | |
If Ramadan occurred during later pregnancy, Saleh found the placentas were smaller than usual. | 0:47:38 | 0:47:44 | |
The placenta is not a solid organ. | 0:47:46 | 0:47:49 | |
It's a very plastic organ. | 0:47:49 | 0:47:50 | |
It's very sensitive to the environment | 0:47:52 | 0:47:54 | |
and responds quickly to changes. | 0:47:54 | 0:47:57 | |
I mean, in Ramadan, | 0:47:57 | 0:47:59 | |
it's just only one month among nine months of the pregnancy | 0:47:59 | 0:48:03 | |
and you can see changes in the placenta. | 0:48:03 | 0:48:06 | |
Just for one month, changes in the size. | 0:48:06 | 0:48:09 | |
You would think a smaller placenta would mean a smaller baby, | 0:48:12 | 0:48:16 | |
but intriguingly the size of the babies didn't change. | 0:48:16 | 0:48:20 | |
It seemed the smaller placenta was capable | 0:48:22 | 0:48:25 | |
of transferring the same amount of nutrients as a larger one would, | 0:48:25 | 0:48:29 | |
that it was protecting the baby from any effects of the dietary change. | 0:48:29 | 0:48:33 | |
Here is the baby weight. 2.8, 3.4, 3.2, | 0:48:35 | 0:48:40 | |
3.3, 3.3, 3.4... | 0:48:40 | 0:48:43 | |
These birth records suggest | 0:48:45 | 0:48:47 | |
that even though the Saudi placenta is always smaller than a Western one, | 0:48:47 | 0:48:51 | |
it's capable of producing as large a baby. | 0:48:51 | 0:48:54 | |
Well, it's absolutely clear looking down this column, | 0:48:57 | 0:49:00 | |
and I've looked at hundreds of such columns, | 0:49:00 | 0:49:03 | |
that these babies are of Western size, | 0:49:03 | 0:49:06 | |
but the placentas are much smaller. | 0:49:06 | 0:49:08 | |
The Saudi babies are growing large and healthy from these smaller placentas. | 0:49:12 | 0:49:17 | |
It's as if they're working more efficiently. | 0:49:17 | 0:49:19 | |
To understand why, Saleh is now working with a hospital in Riyadh. | 0:49:27 | 0:49:31 | |
They are measuring newborn babies and then analysing their placentas in the lab. | 0:49:36 | 0:49:40 | |
It's 30 cms. | 0:49:42 | 0:49:43 | |
They hope to discover why some placentas are better at transferring nutrients than others. | 0:49:46 | 0:49:50 | |
The interesting thing about this is that the placenta does not transport | 0:49:54 | 0:49:59 | |
nutrients in the same manner all day, all stages. | 0:49:59 | 0:50:02 | |
It fluctuates. | 0:50:02 | 0:50:04 | |
So by looking inside the placenta, we would hope to investigate | 0:50:08 | 0:50:12 | |
how this placenta takes the nutrients from the mother's side | 0:50:12 | 0:50:16 | |
and delivers it to the baby's side. | 0:50:16 | 0:50:18 | |
Our companion in the womb is now being given as much respect | 0:50:21 | 0:50:25 | |
by Western science as it has always had in Saudi culture. | 0:50:25 | 0:50:29 | |
You cannot separate culture from science | 0:50:30 | 0:50:32 | |
and here, for example, in Saudi Arabia, | 0:50:32 | 0:50:35 | |
toward the end of the pregnancy, | 0:50:35 | 0:50:38 | |
we look at the placenta as if it is going to die to bring a live baby | 0:50:38 | 0:50:44 | |
and for this, we respect this unique organ | 0:50:44 | 0:50:47 | |
and handle it carefully and bury it in the graveyard. | 0:50:47 | 0:50:52 | |
So I'm very excited that the placenta is beginning to get the recognition that it deserves. | 0:50:59 | 0:51:04 | |
David's work has really highlighted the importance of the intra-uterine | 0:51:04 | 0:51:08 | |
period for adult health and, of course, the placenta is critical to that, and it's very rewarding to see | 0:51:08 | 0:51:15 | |
that a number of young investigators are turning their attention to the placenta | 0:51:15 | 0:51:19 | |
and I think in the next five, ten years | 0:51:19 | 0:51:22 | |
we're really going to gain a much greater insight into its function. | 0:51:22 | 0:51:25 | |
If we can understand why some placentas seem to work better than others, | 0:51:29 | 0:51:33 | |
it might be possible to ensure every baby gets the best start in life, | 0:51:33 | 0:51:38 | |
thanks to a really efficient placenta. | 0:51:38 | 0:51:40 | |
In the tough environment of the slums of Mumbai, | 0:51:57 | 0:52:01 | |
David Barker is hoping his ideas can change lives. | 0:52:01 | 0:52:04 | |
The underlying mechanisms which affect the quality | 0:52:12 | 0:52:15 | |
of our growth in the womb are still under investigation, | 0:52:15 | 0:52:19 | |
but David believes we already know enough to alter the health destiny of future generations. | 0:52:19 | 0:52:24 | |
It is a new way, it is a feasible way | 0:52:27 | 0:52:30 | |
and it's not even a very expensive way, | 0:52:30 | 0:52:33 | |
so it's time we got going. | 0:52:33 | 0:52:36 | |
Inspired by David's ideas, his colleague, Professor Caroline Fall, | 0:52:37 | 0:52:42 | |
is leading a study with the potential to fix the diabetes epidemic in India. | 0:52:42 | 0:52:47 | |
At the moment, if you talk about preventing diabetes, | 0:52:49 | 0:52:52 | |
people are talking about making middle-aged people lose weight, | 0:52:52 | 0:52:56 | |
and A, that's impossible to do, | 0:52:56 | 0:52:58 | |
and B, it doesn't seem to work very well anyway. | 0:52:58 | 0:53:01 | |
The idea that you could build a human being that was | 0:53:02 | 0:53:05 | |
more resistant to this disease was amazing to me. | 0:53:05 | 0:53:08 | |
Caroline's plan to halt the diabetes epidemic | 0:53:13 | 0:53:16 | |
doesn't rely on high-tech labs or fancy science. | 0:53:16 | 0:53:19 | |
It rests mainly on these women | 0:53:20 | 0:53:23 | |
and one kitchen. | 0:53:23 | 0:53:24 | |
These recipes contain all the crucial building blocks needed to build a body resistant to disease. | 0:53:31 | 0:53:36 | |
'Folic acid, calcium, iron, vitamin A.' | 0:53:37 | 0:53:41 | |
The calcium will be important for bone growth. | 0:53:41 | 0:53:45 | |
The green leafy vegetables contain small quantities | 0:53:45 | 0:53:47 | |
of essential fatty acids which are important for brain growth. | 0:53:47 | 0:53:51 | |
All of those nutrients are important in different tissues of the body. | 0:53:52 | 0:53:56 | |
The foetus, at a very, very early microscopic stage, | 0:53:59 | 0:54:02 | |
is sensitive to the nutrients around it and if we miss that, | 0:54:02 | 0:54:06 | |
we feel that we would be missing the most important stage of development. | 0:54:06 | 0:54:11 | |
Every day, over 1,500 snacks are made in this kitchen. | 0:54:25 | 0:54:29 | |
There are nutrient-rich recipes and others that are green vegetable-free | 0:54:29 | 0:54:34 | |
to act as scientific controls. | 0:54:34 | 0:54:36 | |
They are taken to about 50 clinics in the slums across the city. | 0:54:40 | 0:54:44 | |
In total, over 6,700 women have participated | 0:54:49 | 0:54:54 | |
and each must begin eating the supplements well before they fall pregnant. | 0:54:54 | 0:54:58 | |
It's a logistical nightmare where the utmost care must be taken | 0:54:59 | 0:55:03 | |
to be scientific. | 0:55:03 | 0:55:04 | |
I'm very glad to have met Meera. | 0:55:08 | 0:55:11 | |
It's been hard work, it's been hard work setting up a study like this. | 0:55:11 | 0:55:15 | |
To carry it out on the ground | 0:55:15 | 0:55:18 | |
in a population like this is very difficult. | 0:55:18 | 0:55:21 | |
It's mandatory for a woman to come to the centre | 0:55:23 | 0:55:25 | |
and have the supplement in front of the project clerk | 0:55:25 | 0:55:28 | |
because it is very important, you know, because if they take it home, | 0:55:28 | 0:55:31 | |
somebody else can eat it. | 0:55:31 | 0:55:34 | |
They can throw it out or the child can eat it. | 0:55:34 | 0:55:36 | |
We are not sure who the supplement has gone into, | 0:55:36 | 0:55:39 | |
whose stomach, so it's very important to have women coming to the centre. | 0:55:39 | 0:55:42 | |
The centre is full of women eating supplements | 0:55:44 | 0:55:47 | |
from well before pregnancy until they give birth. | 0:55:47 | 0:55:50 | |
And there are also babies who must be measured at one, three, six and 12 months. | 0:55:52 | 0:55:58 | |
Their weight, length and body fat are recorded, | 0:56:00 | 0:56:03 | |
and they are even testing their mental development. | 0:56:03 | 0:56:06 | |
It is an ambitious long-term project. | 0:56:10 | 0:56:14 | |
-For seven-and-a-half years. -How many more? | 0:56:14 | 0:56:17 | |
-Forever, I think. -So nice! | 0:56:17 | 0:56:21 | |
The results of this study will begin to come in next year. | 0:56:21 | 0:56:27 | |
We're providing better nutrition into the mother, | 0:56:29 | 0:56:31 | |
but the mother herself has had a poor early development, | 0:56:31 | 0:56:35 | |
which may affect the quality of her eggs. | 0:56:35 | 0:56:39 | |
It certainly affects the size of her uterus | 0:56:39 | 0:56:41 | |
and the quality of the blood supply to the uterus. | 0:56:41 | 0:56:44 | |
So she is still constraining the development and growth | 0:56:44 | 0:56:49 | |
of that foetus, even if we are providing enough building blocks | 0:56:49 | 0:56:53 | |
to develop a better foetus. | 0:56:53 | 0:56:55 | |
We need to follow these children through and we need to follow | 0:56:55 | 0:56:59 | |
into the next generation to see the full benefit. | 0:56:59 | 0:57:03 | |
David Barker's ideas have transformed the way we think about our time in the womb. | 0:57:16 | 0:57:21 | |
If the work in India is successful, the study of foetal origins | 0:57:22 | 0:57:27 | |
that began in Hertfordshire could alter the health of future generations across the world. | 0:57:27 | 0:57:32 | |
Many people have looked at genes, but it hasn't been as promising as we thought | 0:57:34 | 0:57:39 | |
and it's been very difficult to change lifestyles, | 0:57:39 | 0:57:42 | |
to prevent heart disease, for instance, but I think this field of research | 0:57:42 | 0:57:46 | |
that focuses on development during pregnancy is really very promising. | 0:57:46 | 0:57:51 | |
The benefits of improving the nutrition of the human embryo | 0:57:56 | 0:58:00 | |
and foetus are not just reducing the burden of diabetes. | 0:58:00 | 0:58:06 | |
It will reduce the burden of cardiovascular disease, | 0:58:06 | 0:58:09 | |
osteoporosis, various brain disorders, | 0:58:09 | 0:58:14 | |
and will prolong lifespan. | 0:58:14 | 0:58:17 | |
Particularly it will prolong healthy lifespan. | 0:58:17 | 0:58:19 | |
I would like to think that what we're seeing | 0:58:21 | 0:58:23 | |
here in India is the beginning of a new dawn | 0:58:23 | 0:58:28 | |
and a new understanding | 0:58:28 | 0:58:30 | |
that will lead us to take command of our destinies | 0:58:30 | 0:58:34 | |
in terms of our long-term health. | 0:58:34 | 0:58:36 | |
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