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This is a remarkable little pill. | 0:00:02 | 0:00:04 | |
It comes in all shapes and sizes. | 0:00:06 | 0:00:08 | |
It can relieve pain, | 0:00:10 | 0:00:12 | |
treat depression, | 0:00:12 | 0:00:14 | |
and has even helped ease the symptoms of Parkinson's Disease. | 0:00:14 | 0:00:18 | |
And yet, it isn't a wonder drug. | 0:00:20 | 0:00:23 | |
In fact, there isn't anything in it. | 0:00:23 | 0:00:26 | |
As a scientist, it's unbelievable! | 0:00:29 | 0:00:32 | |
These pills are placebos. | 0:00:32 | 0:00:36 | |
Dummy pills. Sugar pills. | 0:00:36 | 0:00:38 | |
I'm thinking, "He wants me to take sugar pills? | 0:00:38 | 0:00:41 | |
"This isn't going to work." | 0:00:42 | 0:00:44 | |
But the latest research is starting to show why placebos do work. | 0:00:44 | 0:00:48 | |
And how you could make the most of them. | 0:00:49 | 0:00:52 | |
At the home of British cycling, at the Manchester velodrome, | 0:01:11 | 0:01:15 | |
some of the country's top cyclists have gathered together. | 0:01:15 | 0:01:18 | |
They're elite. | 0:01:19 | 0:01:21 | |
Many are national champions, past or present. | 0:01:21 | 0:01:24 | |
They've been brought together by Dr Chris Beedie. | 0:01:27 | 0:01:30 | |
He wants to see if he can give them some pills to help them | 0:01:30 | 0:01:34 | |
do something that would normally take months of training. | 0:01:34 | 0:01:38 | |
He wants to see if he can make them cycle faster than ever before. | 0:01:38 | 0:01:43 | |
We're going to get all the riders onto the track | 0:01:43 | 0:01:46 | |
to do a sprint time trial, to get an idea from that | 0:01:46 | 0:01:50 | |
of their baseline speed, | 0:01:50 | 0:01:52 | |
and then four hours later we're going to give them a couple of these. | 0:01:52 | 0:01:57 | |
And we're expecting them to have an effect on their performance. | 0:01:57 | 0:02:00 | |
The cyclists have been invited to take part in an experiment | 0:02:03 | 0:02:07 | |
looking at the effect of legal performance-enhancing supplements. | 0:02:07 | 0:02:11 | |
We're looking at testing a new ergogenic aid. | 0:02:14 | 0:02:18 | |
Half of you will be getting what we'd call a standard ergogenic aid, | 0:02:19 | 0:02:23 | |
which is caffeine. | 0:02:23 | 0:02:25 | |
The other half will be getting caffeine, | 0:02:25 | 0:02:27 | |
with some nitrate and some bicarbonate in those capsules. | 0:02:27 | 0:02:31 | |
And we're expecting that to do slightly better. | 0:02:31 | 0:02:34 | |
So to evaluate this we need two time trials from you, | 0:02:35 | 0:02:38 | |
absolutely 100%, | 0:02:38 | 0:02:40 | |
absolutely everything you've got in both time trials. | 0:02:40 | 0:02:43 | |
The cyclists' baseline performance is measured | 0:02:52 | 0:02:54 | |
to get a sense of their natural competitive time. | 0:02:54 | 0:02:57 | |
And then - it's time for the pills. | 0:03:07 | 0:03:11 | |
OK, we've got the baseline performance, | 0:03:11 | 0:03:14 | |
we now are going to give them some of these and see what effect these have. | 0:03:14 | 0:03:18 | |
One by one, the cyclists receive their performance-enhancing capsules | 0:03:18 | 0:03:22 | |
from members of Chris' team. | 0:03:22 | 0:03:24 | |
Hi, Lisa, you've been randomised today to receive the caffeine. | 0:03:24 | 0:03:27 | |
Today you've been randomised to take the mixed supplement. | 0:03:29 | 0:03:32 | |
Hannah, today you've been randomised to receive the pure caffeine. | 0:03:33 | 0:03:36 | |
Today you've been randomised to receive the new supplement. | 0:03:37 | 0:03:40 | |
But nothing about today is quite as it seems. | 0:03:42 | 0:03:46 | |
Both sets of pills are exactly the same. | 0:03:46 | 0:03:50 | |
The cyclists are actually taking part in a very different experiment. | 0:03:50 | 0:03:55 | |
These are the capsules we're going to be using today. | 0:03:56 | 0:03:59 | |
We've got a couple of red ones and a couple of red and white ones. | 0:03:59 | 0:04:02 | |
They're fairly large and they look like they mean business. | 0:04:02 | 0:04:06 | |
They are, however, filled with cornflour. | 0:04:06 | 0:04:08 | |
Chris wants to see if the cornflour can improve the cyclists' times, | 0:04:15 | 0:04:19 | |
even though they already do all they can to be as fast as possible. | 0:04:19 | 0:04:24 | |
But, having raced just a couple of hours ago, the riders are tired. | 0:04:25 | 0:04:29 | |
The thought of doing two in one day, it would never happen. | 0:04:30 | 0:04:34 | |
You'd normally sort of race one, | 0:04:35 | 0:04:36 | |
and then a day or so, you'd start again... Two in one day's going to be interesting! | 0:04:36 | 0:04:40 | |
It's fair to expect that their second race of the day would be slower. | 0:04:43 | 0:04:47 | |
It's time to see what the pills can do. | 0:04:48 | 0:04:51 | |
Do you feel that the second ride felt easier? | 0:05:22 | 0:05:25 | |
The first one, it got progressively harder during the ride. | 0:05:25 | 0:05:29 | |
The second ride, after about a lap and a half out of the four laps, | 0:05:29 | 0:05:31 | |
it kind of got to a point where it was hurting but then it never got any worse. | 0:05:31 | 0:05:35 | |
The second ride felt better, yes. | 0:05:36 | 0:05:39 | |
I went half a second quicker, which is quite a lot over that distance. | 0:05:40 | 0:05:44 | |
I felt as if I was a little bit quicker second time round. | 0:05:44 | 0:05:48 | |
I felt really tired before I took it. | 0:05:48 | 0:05:50 | |
I think it may have started to kick in whilst I was warming up | 0:05:50 | 0:05:53 | |
and I got a bit of a burst of energy and I felt ready to go again. | 0:05:53 | 0:05:56 | |
In spite of the fact that the riders were tired from their earlier race, | 0:05:58 | 0:06:03 | |
analysis of today's times shows that more than half of them | 0:06:03 | 0:06:07 | |
were quicker with the cornflour. | 0:06:07 | 0:06:09 | |
The placebo has even helped one cyclist | 0:06:15 | 0:06:18 | |
to ride faster than ever before. | 0:06:18 | 0:06:21 | |
It was really good, | 0:06:25 | 0:06:26 | |
really surprised to go quicker in the second run. | 0:06:26 | 0:06:29 | |
And a personal best as well by two tenths of a second, | 0:06:29 | 0:06:31 | |
and to beat a couple of the lads that are here today that normally beat me, | 0:06:31 | 0:06:35 | |
big surprise, yeah, really happy. | 0:06:35 | 0:06:36 | |
-So, you did a PB, you felt the effects of the substance. -Yeah. | 0:06:38 | 0:06:43 | |
Um, the capsule we gave you was a placebo. | 0:06:43 | 0:06:46 | |
Oh, right, OK. | 0:06:48 | 0:06:49 | |
-Really? -SHE LAUGHS | 0:06:49 | 0:06:51 | |
Really? Wow. | 0:06:51 | 0:06:53 | |
Today's trial is just a demonstration of what placebos can do. | 0:06:57 | 0:07:01 | |
But it's typical of what Dr Beedie has found | 0:07:03 | 0:07:06 | |
in over a decade of experiments with hundreds of athletes. | 0:07:06 | 0:07:10 | |
Every study we've done we found a mean placebo effect. | 0:07:10 | 0:07:14 | |
In sports performance generally, | 0:07:17 | 0:07:19 | |
we can see improvements quite frequently of two to three per cent. | 0:07:19 | 0:07:23 | |
Well, three per cent in many sports is probably the difference between | 0:07:23 | 0:07:28 | |
first place in the Olympics and not being in the top ten. | 0:07:28 | 0:07:32 | |
So we're talking quite a substantial difference. | 0:07:32 | 0:07:34 | |
It's a little bit like your car's going a little bit faster | 0:07:34 | 0:07:37 | |
but you're not using any more petrol. | 0:07:37 | 0:07:39 | |
Why that's happening, however, is still open to question. | 0:07:39 | 0:07:43 | |
It seems the pills that the cyclists took | 0:07:47 | 0:07:49 | |
have the potential to make a real difference - | 0:07:49 | 0:07:52 | |
and it's clearly nothing to do with the cornflour in them. | 0:07:52 | 0:07:56 | |
So how can a pill with nothing in it | 0:07:57 | 0:07:59 | |
help someone to cycle faster than ever before? | 0:07:59 | 0:08:02 | |
Since the advent of modern medicine, | 0:08:16 | 0:08:18 | |
placebos have been treated with scepticism. | 0:08:18 | 0:08:21 | |
It's been assumed that they can do nothing. | 0:08:21 | 0:08:25 | |
They've been used only as dummy pills | 0:08:26 | 0:08:29 | |
that new drugs have to beat to be considered effective. | 0:08:29 | 0:08:32 | |
But in recent years a number of studies have shown | 0:08:35 | 0:08:38 | |
that there may be more to a placebo than we thought. | 0:08:38 | 0:08:41 | |
A few years ago, | 0:08:46 | 0:08:48 | |
Dr David Kallmes decided to do a rather controversial experiment. | 0:08:48 | 0:08:52 | |
For 15 years, he's been fixing broken backs by injecting them | 0:08:55 | 0:08:59 | |
with a special kind of surgical cement. | 0:08:59 | 0:09:01 | |
We saw terrific results from the procedure, | 0:09:04 | 0:09:06 | |
really amazing results from the procedure. | 0:09:06 | 0:09:09 | |
But then Dr Kallmes noticed something | 0:09:09 | 0:09:11 | |
that made him question how effective the procedure was. | 0:09:11 | 0:09:15 | |
I was aware of some rare cases where, believe it or not, | 0:09:18 | 0:09:23 | |
the wrong vertebral body was treated, for whatever reason, | 0:09:23 | 0:09:28 | |
and patients seemed to get some relief from that. | 0:09:28 | 0:09:30 | |
So there was some reason to suspect that there were numerous factors | 0:09:30 | 0:09:36 | |
at play in the apparent effectiveness of the cement. | 0:09:36 | 0:09:40 | |
He decided to do something unusual. | 0:09:41 | 0:09:43 | |
He decided to put this established procedure to the test. | 0:09:46 | 0:09:50 | |
He designed a trial in which some patients would be given | 0:09:52 | 0:09:56 | |
the real procedure... | 0:09:56 | 0:09:58 | |
and some would be given a placebo. | 0:09:58 | 0:10:01 | |
But in this case, the placebo couldn't be a dummy pill - | 0:10:03 | 0:10:07 | |
it would have to be a fake operation. | 0:10:07 | 0:10:10 | |
There was scepticism from many people | 0:10:13 | 0:10:16 | |
about whether this was worth doing. | 0:10:16 | 0:10:18 | |
I recall being at a meeting and I remember being screamed at | 0:10:18 | 0:10:22 | |
and then later on being called a heretic for raising the spectre | 0:10:22 | 0:10:27 | |
of the placebo effect in interventional procedures. | 0:10:27 | 0:10:31 | |
Nevertheless he went ahead with the trial. | 0:10:31 | 0:10:34 | |
All he needed was to recruit some patients. | 0:10:34 | 0:10:38 | |
A few years ago, Bonnie Anderson had an accident | 0:10:50 | 0:10:53 | |
that led her to join the trial. | 0:10:53 | 0:10:55 | |
Well, when I slipped on the tiled floor in the kitchen here, | 0:10:58 | 0:11:01 | |
I went complete... feet went out from underneath me, | 0:11:01 | 0:11:04 | |
I went flat on my back. I could not move. | 0:11:04 | 0:11:06 | |
And I thought, oh, dear, I told Don, I said, | 0:11:06 | 0:11:09 | |
"I'm afraid I broke my back." The pain was just very, very severe. | 0:11:09 | 0:11:14 | |
I couldn't stand up straight, I'd have to hold onto something. | 0:11:15 | 0:11:19 | |
She was in pain all the time, she could do very little. | 0:11:22 | 0:11:27 | |
I'd help him with the dishes, | 0:11:27 | 0:11:29 | |
but he did all the vacuuming, he did more of the workload. | 0:11:29 | 0:11:32 | |
-That part hasn't really changed that much! -Oh, shut up! | 0:11:32 | 0:11:35 | |
When Bonnie saw the doctor, a vertebral fracture was confirmed. | 0:11:41 | 0:11:45 | |
She was enrolled on the trial. | 0:11:47 | 0:11:49 | |
On a cold October morning, Bonnie arrived at the hospital, | 0:11:51 | 0:11:55 | |
ready for her operation. | 0:11:55 | 0:11:56 | |
She couldn't know whether she was having a vertebroplasty | 0:11:59 | 0:12:02 | |
or the pretend procedure - the placebo. | 0:12:02 | 0:12:05 | |
Dr Kallmes developed an elaborate ruse | 0:12:06 | 0:12:09 | |
to ensure that patients wouldn't work out which group they were in. | 0:12:09 | 0:12:13 | |
The patient was brought into the room, was given medication by vein, | 0:12:15 | 0:12:19 | |
was sterilely prepped and local anaesthesia was given. | 0:12:19 | 0:12:23 | |
And only after the anaesthesia was given onto the bone | 0:12:25 | 0:12:28 | |
did we press the button to see whether the patient was randomised | 0:12:28 | 0:12:32 | |
to the full vertebroplasty or to the placebo. | 0:12:32 | 0:12:35 | |
In both cases, no matter how they were randomised, | 0:12:39 | 0:12:42 | |
we then opened the cement, which has a very strong odour like nail polish remover, | 0:12:42 | 0:12:46 | |
to really simulate it for everybody in the room. | 0:12:46 | 0:12:49 | |
And if they were randomised to vertebroplasty, | 0:12:49 | 0:12:51 | |
we then injected cement down into the bone. | 0:12:51 | 0:12:53 | |
If they were randomised to placebo... | 0:12:55 | 0:12:57 | |
..we opened the cement, | 0:12:58 | 0:13:00 | |
we had a script that we followed... | 0:13:00 | 0:13:02 | |
..we pressed on the back and said, | 0:13:04 | 0:13:06 | |
"OK, ma'am, the cement is going in now, everything's going fine, | 0:13:06 | 0:13:10 | |
"things are going well, few more minutes here. OK, we're all done." | 0:13:10 | 0:13:13 | |
So we really simulated the procedure for the patient. | 0:13:13 | 0:13:17 | |
Bonnie felt better immediately. | 0:13:22 | 0:13:25 | |
The surgery did work very, very well for me. | 0:13:25 | 0:13:28 | |
It did so much for me. I was really active. | 0:13:28 | 0:13:31 | |
The procedure transformed her life. | 0:13:34 | 0:13:37 | |
Within a week of the injection, I was able to play golf. | 0:13:44 | 0:13:48 | |
I took it a little easy, but I was able to play golf almost every day. | 0:13:48 | 0:13:51 | |
And I returned to some of my duties, as far as... | 0:13:53 | 0:13:57 | |
Well, I don't vacuum, but as far as dishes and stuff. | 0:13:57 | 0:14:01 | |
He won't say that, but it's true. | 0:14:01 | 0:14:03 | |
But Bonnie didn't have the real procedure. | 0:14:07 | 0:14:09 | |
She was in the placebo group. | 0:14:10 | 0:14:12 | |
And what made her so interesting | 0:14:14 | 0:14:17 | |
was that she'd already had a real vertebroplasty once before. | 0:14:17 | 0:14:20 | |
Which meant she was uniquely able | 0:14:22 | 0:14:24 | |
to compare the real thing with the placebo. | 0:14:24 | 0:14:27 | |
I thought they were both so successful | 0:14:28 | 0:14:31 | |
that I could go ahead and do what I wanted to do without any problem. | 0:14:31 | 0:14:35 | |
And it wasn't just Bonnie that responded so well to the placebo. | 0:14:37 | 0:14:41 | |
When the results of the other 130 patients on the trial came in, | 0:14:42 | 0:14:47 | |
they surprised everyone. | 0:14:47 | 0:14:48 | |
There was no statistically significant difference | 0:14:52 | 0:14:57 | |
in degree of pain relief | 0:14:57 | 0:14:59 | |
between the patients who underwent vertebroplasty and placebo, | 0:14:59 | 0:15:03 | |
and more importantly there was no statistically significant difference | 0:15:03 | 0:15:07 | |
in improvement in function | 0:15:07 | 0:15:10 | |
between the patients who underwent vertebroplasty and placebo. | 0:15:10 | 0:15:14 | |
This study and another in Australia both suggest | 0:15:17 | 0:15:21 | |
that a pretend procedure can be as effective as vertebroplasty - | 0:15:21 | 0:15:26 | |
which has been carried out on over a million people. | 0:15:26 | 0:15:29 | |
Both the real thing and the placebo made patients better | 0:15:31 | 0:15:35 | |
than if they'd received no treatment. | 0:15:35 | 0:15:38 | |
So how could a pretend procedure be so effective? | 0:15:39 | 0:15:43 | |
Around the world, scientists are investigating how a placebo works. | 0:15:49 | 0:15:54 | |
They're trying to find out what's happening inside your body and brain | 0:15:55 | 0:16:00 | |
when you experience a placebo effect. | 0:16:00 | 0:16:03 | |
It's a public holiday in the Italian Alps. | 0:16:22 | 0:16:25 | |
Tourists are heading up the mountain | 0:16:25 | 0:16:27 | |
to spend a day skiing in the shadow of the Matterhorn. | 0:16:27 | 0:16:30 | |
But, for Fabrizio Benedetti, it's just another day in the office. | 0:16:34 | 0:16:39 | |
Instead of driving to the lab, | 0:16:42 | 0:16:46 | |
instead of taking a bus or a train, we take a cable car. | 0:16:46 | 0:16:50 | |
# On days like these | 0:16:50 | 0:16:55 | |
# When skies are blue... # | 0:16:55 | 0:16:57 | |
The landscape is beautiful, it's a beautiful day. | 0:16:57 | 0:17:01 | |
But Fabrizio's laboratory isn't at the top of the mountain | 0:17:05 | 0:17:09 | |
just for the sake of a pleasant commute. | 0:17:09 | 0:17:11 | |
He's using the low oxygen levels at high altitude | 0:17:14 | 0:17:17 | |
to conduct an unusual experiment. | 0:17:17 | 0:17:21 | |
He's trying to find out whether a placebo effect is imagined, | 0:17:21 | 0:17:25 | |
or whether somehow a placebo can cause real changes in our bodies. | 0:17:25 | 0:17:30 | |
OK, so here we are inside the station. | 0:17:32 | 0:17:35 | |
There are a couple of labs. | 0:17:35 | 0:17:37 | |
We have a living area, we have two bedrooms, the kitchen, the bathroom. | 0:17:37 | 0:17:41 | |
Italian-Swiss border is more or less here. | 0:17:41 | 0:17:45 | |
We work in Switzerland, we sleep in Italy. | 0:17:45 | 0:17:47 | |
For the past few years, Fabrizio has been bringing volunteers, | 0:17:49 | 0:17:53 | |
like Marco, to his mountain-top laboratory to be studied. | 0:17:53 | 0:17:57 | |
He's conducting an experiment to see if anything happens to people | 0:17:57 | 0:18:02 | |
when they expect extra oxygen, but don't actually get it. | 0:18:02 | 0:18:07 | |
So what we do is we give real oxygen or placebo oxygen - | 0:18:07 | 0:18:13 | |
the tank of the oxygen is empty - | 0:18:13 | 0:18:15 | |
and we compare the effect of real oxygen with placebo oxygen. | 0:18:15 | 0:18:20 | |
Fabrizio gives Marco a canister of what he's told is oxygen, | 0:18:23 | 0:18:28 | |
and sets him off on a 30-minute hike. | 0:18:28 | 0:18:31 | |
Even mild exercise, that's pretty tiring and difficult. | 0:18:38 | 0:18:43 | |
That's the reason why we are here, of course. | 0:18:45 | 0:18:47 | |
Fabrizio wants to know as much as possible | 0:18:50 | 0:18:53 | |
about what's going on inside Marco's body and brain. | 0:18:53 | 0:18:57 | |
His heart rate, brain activity, | 0:18:57 | 0:18:59 | |
and even the neurotransmitters in his system, are all being monitored. | 0:18:59 | 0:19:04 | |
At this altitude, extra oxygen would be a great help. | 0:19:04 | 0:19:09 | |
If there is extra oxygen, of course, the muscles get more oxygen | 0:19:09 | 0:19:14 | |
so their performance improves. | 0:19:14 | 0:19:16 | |
As they hike further, | 0:19:29 | 0:19:30 | |
Marco is easily able to outpace Fabrizio's team of scientists. | 0:19:30 | 0:19:35 | |
You can see I cannot see him any more, actually. | 0:19:38 | 0:19:41 | |
But, of course, Marco doesn't have any extra oxygen. | 0:19:44 | 0:19:47 | |
So, has the fake oxygen just given him | 0:19:49 | 0:19:52 | |
some kind of psychological boost? | 0:19:52 | 0:19:54 | |
Or has it changed something in his body? | 0:19:57 | 0:20:00 | |
By analysing the data he's gathered | 0:20:02 | 0:20:04 | |
from Marco and the other subjects he's studied, | 0:20:04 | 0:20:07 | |
Fabrizio has the answer. | 0:20:07 | 0:20:09 | |
It's all to do with the level of a neurotransmitter called PGE2. | 0:20:12 | 0:20:17 | |
When we come to high altitude, | 0:20:21 | 0:20:22 | |
the low oxygen levels cause our blood oxygen levels to fall. | 0:20:22 | 0:20:27 | |
This makes our PGE2 levels go up. | 0:20:27 | 0:20:30 | |
And that leads us to feel some of the familiar symptoms | 0:20:31 | 0:20:34 | |
of altitude sickness, like pain. | 0:20:34 | 0:20:36 | |
But extra oxygen can ease the problems. | 0:20:39 | 0:20:42 | |
When we give oxygen, there is a dramatic decrease in PGE2. | 0:20:42 | 0:20:47 | |
This is the typical response | 0:20:47 | 0:20:49 | |
after oxygen administration with real oxygen. | 0:20:49 | 0:20:53 | |
The lower PGE2 level that comes from giving oxygen | 0:20:54 | 0:20:58 | |
helps us to feel less pain, and therefore work harder. | 0:20:58 | 0:21:03 | |
But if you give someone fake oxygen | 0:21:03 | 0:21:06 | |
you wouldn't expect the PGE2 levels to change. | 0:21:06 | 0:21:09 | |
In this case we give fake oxygen, which means placebo oxygen, | 0:21:11 | 0:21:15 | |
and there's no change in blood oxygen saturation, you see - | 0:21:15 | 0:21:19 | |
we have 84% of blood oxygen saturation - | 0:21:19 | 0:21:23 | |
but there's a decrease in PGE2 anyway. | 0:21:23 | 0:21:26 | |
This means that this decrease is not due to oxygen in the body, | 0:21:28 | 0:21:35 | |
but is due to expectation, to a placebo effect. | 0:21:35 | 0:21:38 | |
The fake oxygen is causing real physiological changes | 0:21:46 | 0:21:49 | |
in Fabrizio's subjects - | 0:21:49 | 0:21:51 | |
decreasing their levels of PGE2, | 0:21:51 | 0:21:55 | |
causing them to feel less pain, and allowing them to work harder. | 0:21:55 | 0:22:00 | |
It's not imagination, it's not pure psychological effect, | 0:22:00 | 0:22:04 | |
it's a real neurobiological effect. | 0:22:04 | 0:22:07 | |
Somehow, fake oxygen is producing | 0:22:09 | 0:22:13 | |
real chemical changes in people's bodies. | 0:22:13 | 0:22:16 | |
It shows us just how real and measurable | 0:22:17 | 0:22:20 | |
the placebo effect can be. | 0:22:20 | 0:22:22 | |
What it doesn't tell us is how that's happening. | 0:22:23 | 0:22:27 | |
Boulder, Colorado...in the foothills of the Rocky Mountains. | 0:22:38 | 0:22:41 | |
Tor Wager is trying to figure out | 0:22:44 | 0:22:46 | |
how a placebo can change the chemicals in our bodies. | 0:22:46 | 0:22:49 | |
He's getting ready for another day inflicting mild torture on someone. | 0:22:51 | 0:22:56 | |
We do the thermal pain test a lot because it's not damaging | 0:22:59 | 0:23:02 | |
and it's safe, but it is painful. | 0:23:02 | 0:23:05 | |
Right, Jake, come on in, you can have a seat right here. | 0:23:07 | 0:23:11 | |
Tor is hoping to fool Jake into believing | 0:23:11 | 0:23:13 | |
that a standard moisturiser is a powerful pain relief cream. | 0:23:13 | 0:23:18 | |
He begins by applying some moisturiser to Jake's arm, | 0:23:20 | 0:23:23 | |
and tells him what it is. | 0:23:23 | 0:23:25 | |
This is just to have something on your skin. | 0:23:25 | 0:23:27 | |
It won't provide any pain relief, and will serve as a control. | 0:23:27 | 0:23:32 | |
OK. | 0:23:32 | 0:23:33 | |
On a different spot, he applies some lidocaine - | 0:23:33 | 0:23:36 | |
a local anaesthetic - which will dampen the pain that Jake feels. | 0:23:36 | 0:23:41 | |
We already know that it blocks pain, but we're just going to look | 0:23:41 | 0:23:44 | |
-and see whether it changes pain in your brain. -OK. | 0:23:44 | 0:23:48 | |
And finally, there's more moisturiser. | 0:23:48 | 0:23:51 | |
But Jake is told that it's also a local anaesthetic. | 0:23:51 | 0:23:54 | |
We'll do the analgesic on both of these spots. | 0:23:59 | 0:24:02 | |
We'll just wait just a minute for that to take effect. | 0:24:07 | 0:24:10 | |
Jake will then be subjected to heat pain on the different sites | 0:24:11 | 0:24:15 | |
and be asked to rate them. | 0:24:15 | 0:24:17 | |
Meanwhile his brain will be scanned, | 0:24:17 | 0:24:20 | |
allowing Tor to learn more about how a placebo works. | 0:24:20 | 0:24:24 | |
So we're going to give you a series of your level 8 temperatures, Jake. | 0:24:24 | 0:24:28 | |
And just use the trackball there, and just rate what you feel, | 0:24:28 | 0:24:30 | |
moment by moment, track your pain continuously. | 0:24:30 | 0:24:33 | |
OK, so we're ready to go in. | 0:24:33 | 0:24:34 | |
This is the pain rating scale, he's rating his pain continuously, | 0:24:44 | 0:24:48 | |
and the anchors here are no sensation to strongest imaginable sensation. | 0:24:48 | 0:24:53 | |
Jake's first heat treatment is on the control area. | 0:24:53 | 0:24:57 | |
All right, Jake, we've got it tuned | 0:24:57 | 0:24:59 | |
and ready to go for the first task here, OK? | 0:24:59 | 0:25:01 | |
With no anaesthetic, it's not a pleasant experience. | 0:25:03 | 0:25:06 | |
It's going up | 0:25:06 | 0:25:08 | |
and it's just above very strong. | 0:25:08 | 0:25:12 | |
Oh, that's big, that's good! | 0:25:12 | 0:25:13 | |
That was the control, this is with the lidocaine, | 0:25:13 | 0:25:17 | |
just rate what you feel, we'll be scanning. | 0:25:17 | 0:25:19 | |
On the lidocaine site, the pain is noticeably reduced. | 0:25:22 | 0:25:26 | |
So with the control cream, they were between very strong | 0:25:28 | 0:25:31 | |
and strongest imaginable, so they were pretty high. | 0:25:31 | 0:25:35 | |
And with the actual lidocaine cream | 0:25:35 | 0:25:37 | |
they were between strong and very strong, | 0:25:37 | 0:25:39 | |
so there was a substantial drop. | 0:25:39 | 0:25:40 | |
But how will Jake fare when the same heat is applied | 0:25:40 | 0:25:43 | |
on the moisturiser that Tor has said is lidocaine? | 0:25:43 | 0:25:46 | |
Last one, lidocaine number 2. | 0:25:46 | 0:25:48 | |
When he felt this temperature on the control area, | 0:25:51 | 0:25:54 | |
he rated his pain above very strong. | 0:25:54 | 0:25:58 | |
Let's see what happens. | 0:25:58 | 0:25:59 | |
Oh, this one is the lowest so far actually, | 0:26:11 | 0:26:13 | |
so that trial is lower than any of his lidocaine trials actually. | 0:26:13 | 0:26:17 | |
The basic conclusion is that here the placebo response for him | 0:26:18 | 0:26:22 | |
is about as large as the lidocaine responses. | 0:26:22 | 0:26:25 | |
OK, Jake... so how did that feel, by the way? | 0:26:26 | 0:26:29 | |
-Feels less painful. -Feels less painful? -Yeah. | 0:26:29 | 0:26:32 | |
So I told you before that we were applying the real lidocaine on all four sites, right? | 0:26:34 | 0:26:39 | |
But actually we didn't apply the lidocaine on all the sites. | 0:26:39 | 0:26:42 | |
So what we actually did is we applied the control here, | 0:26:43 | 0:26:46 | |
so this is where your pain ratings were highest. | 0:26:46 | 0:26:49 | |
These two were both the real lidocaine, | 0:26:49 | 0:26:52 | |
-and these two were the placebo. -Interesting. | 0:26:52 | 0:26:54 | |
So, knowing that, do you feel like it worked? | 0:26:54 | 0:26:57 | |
Or do you feel like, um... | 0:26:57 | 0:26:59 | |
-The lidocaine or the placebo? -The placebo. -Definitely, yes! | 0:26:59 | 0:27:02 | |
The significance of Tor's work | 0:27:05 | 0:27:07 | |
is that by scanning the brains of people as they experience | 0:27:07 | 0:27:10 | |
a placebo effect, he's revealed clues about how a placebo works. | 0:27:10 | 0:27:17 | |
So when we've given people a placebo treatment, what we see is the release | 0:27:17 | 0:27:22 | |
of endogenous opioids, which is the brain's own morphine, | 0:27:22 | 0:27:26 | |
in a number of brain areas | 0:27:26 | 0:27:28 | |
including this area here which is the periaqueductal grey, | 0:27:28 | 0:27:31 | |
which is really a critical site for opioid-mediated pain control. | 0:27:31 | 0:27:35 | |
What that means is that the placebo effect | 0:27:40 | 0:27:43 | |
is tapping into some of the same pain control circuitry | 0:27:43 | 0:27:47 | |
as opiate drugs, like morphine. | 0:27:47 | 0:27:49 | |
What Tor has shown | 0:27:52 | 0:27:54 | |
goes to the heart of the mechanism of how a placebo works. | 0:27:54 | 0:27:58 | |
A dummy pill or cream or surgery can release | 0:27:58 | 0:28:02 | |
the naturally-occurring painkillers in our brains. | 0:28:02 | 0:28:06 | |
And it isn't just painkillers that a placebo can activate. | 0:28:07 | 0:28:11 | |
Our brains are capable of producing countless chemicals that we need - | 0:28:16 | 0:28:21 | |
to stop pain or to feel it, | 0:28:21 | 0:28:23 | |
to energise us or to help us sleep. | 0:28:23 | 0:28:27 | |
And a placebo can mimic many of them - from aspirin to alcohol. | 0:28:29 | 0:28:34 | |
The placebo effect taps into our natural pharmacy. | 0:28:36 | 0:28:39 | |
Drugs work because we have receptors for the drugs, | 0:28:40 | 0:28:43 | |
and that means that there's some endogenous chemicals | 0:28:43 | 0:28:46 | |
that our brains are producing that act on those receptors - | 0:28:46 | 0:28:49 | |
the receptors evolved to respond to those natural chemicals. | 0:28:49 | 0:28:54 | |
So, a placebo can produce real results | 0:28:55 | 0:28:58 | |
by tapping into the chemical systems that our bodies have evolved. | 0:28:58 | 0:29:02 | |
Just like modern medicines, a placebo effect relies on chemicals - | 0:29:04 | 0:29:09 | |
the chemicals in our brains. | 0:29:09 | 0:29:11 | |
Scientists want to know just how much a simple sugar pill can do. | 0:29:20 | 0:29:24 | |
Can it only affect conditions which rely on self-reporting - | 0:29:26 | 0:29:29 | |
like pain - or could it do much more? | 0:29:29 | 0:29:34 | |
Paul Pattison lives on the outskirts of Vancouver. | 0:29:49 | 0:29:53 | |
It gives him easy access to the woods and mountains | 0:29:53 | 0:29:55 | |
on the edge of the city. | 0:29:55 | 0:29:57 | |
But 12 years ago life took a turn for the worse, | 0:29:57 | 0:30:02 | |
when he started to develop some unsettling symptoms. | 0:30:02 | 0:30:05 | |
I started to notice I was not... my stride wasn't right, | 0:30:06 | 0:30:09 | |
and I-I-I...my doctor referred me to a podiatrist, | 0:30:09 | 0:30:13 | |
thinking something was wrong with my ankle, my foot, whatever. | 0:30:13 | 0:30:16 | |
So the podiatrist had me in there a couple of weeks later and he goes, | 0:30:19 | 0:30:23 | |
"Oh, my gosh, you don't need a podiatrist, you need a neurologist." | 0:30:23 | 0:30:26 | |
So I went back to my GP, got referred to a neurologist | 0:30:27 | 0:30:30 | |
and he took one look at me and said, "OK, you have Parkinson's." | 0:30:30 | 0:30:35 | |
Well, holy smoke! That was... | 0:30:37 | 0:30:39 | |
that was quite traumatic, I was in tears for sure. | 0:30:39 | 0:30:42 | |
It came as a complete shock to Paul and his family, | 0:30:45 | 0:30:48 | |
and eventually forced him to give up his job. | 0:30:48 | 0:30:51 | |
Parkinson's is caused by an inability of the brain to release dopamine. | 0:30:54 | 0:30:59 | |
As well as affecting our mood, | 0:31:00 | 0:31:02 | |
dopamine helps to regulate our movement. | 0:31:02 | 0:31:05 | |
With medication, Paul can get the dopamine he needs | 0:31:06 | 0:31:09 | |
to keep his symptoms under control. | 0:31:09 | 0:31:12 | |
So I take Sinemet CR, control release, is the pink one. | 0:31:13 | 0:31:17 | |
And the two white ones are 2.5mg each of Bromocriptine | 0:31:17 | 0:31:22 | |
and as you see, I'm upright, I'm mobile, my shoulders are back. | 0:31:22 | 0:31:26 | |
A few years ago, Parkinson's researcher Professor Jon Stoessl | 0:31:31 | 0:31:35 | |
decided to test this effective medication against a placebo. | 0:31:35 | 0:31:39 | |
We've always known | 0:31:40 | 0:31:42 | |
that how people do when they have a serious condition | 0:31:42 | 0:31:47 | |
has a lot to do with their attitude | 0:31:47 | 0:31:50 | |
and that's intriguing to me. | 0:31:50 | 0:31:52 | |
Paul was recruited onto Jon's trial. | 0:31:53 | 0:31:56 | |
It would require him to stop taking his medication. | 0:31:56 | 0:32:01 | |
Without it, even walking can be difficult. | 0:32:01 | 0:32:04 | |
About a year and a half ago, I guess, I was about 50 feet from my house, | 0:32:05 | 0:32:11 | |
I could literally see the front door. | 0:32:11 | 0:32:13 | |
I was sitting on the sidewalk, on the kerb, and I couldn't get home. | 0:32:13 | 0:32:17 | |
That was...that was something else. | 0:32:18 | 0:32:21 | |
Took me about a half-hour to get home...from a hundred feet. | 0:32:22 | 0:32:26 | |
Yeah. | 0:32:26 | 0:32:27 | |
Paul headed into hospital for the trial, | 0:32:34 | 0:32:37 | |
without having had his medication, | 0:32:37 | 0:32:39 | |
his Parkinson's symptoms in full flare-up. | 0:32:39 | 0:32:42 | |
And that's when they gave me this capsule. | 0:32:43 | 0:32:46 | |
And they gave you a half-hour, 45 minutes, you know, | 0:32:48 | 0:32:50 | |
a normal period of time for the meds to kick in. | 0:32:50 | 0:32:53 | |
And boom, I was thinking, ah, this is pretty good. | 0:32:57 | 0:33:00 | |
My body becomes erect, my shoulders go back | 0:33:00 | 0:33:04 | |
and I needed to go to the bathroom | 0:33:04 | 0:33:07 | |
so I said, "I don't need any help, I'm fine." | 0:33:07 | 0:33:10 | |
And I heel-struck my way down the hall and went to the bathroom. | 0:33:10 | 0:33:15 | |
But Paul hadn't been given any active medication. | 0:33:16 | 0:33:20 | |
He'd been given a placebo. | 0:33:20 | 0:33:21 | |
Well, I was shocked. | 0:33:26 | 0:33:27 | |
There's no way I could have done that. | 0:33:27 | 0:33:29 | |
I fully understand the effects of my medicine. | 0:33:29 | 0:33:33 | |
So how could a nothing create those same feelings? | 0:33:33 | 0:33:37 | |
Yeah, I was really shocked. | 0:33:38 | 0:33:40 | |
Brain scans of patients with Parkinson's that were responding to the placebo | 0:33:44 | 0:33:49 | |
helped to explain how Paul's symptoms had faded. | 0:33:49 | 0:33:53 | |
This slide shows three scans all taken from the same person | 0:33:53 | 0:33:59 | |
with Parkinson's disease. | 0:33:59 | 0:34:01 | |
So, now you see the activity at baseline. | 0:34:01 | 0:34:04 | |
When they come in with no medication, | 0:34:04 | 0:34:07 | |
their Parkinson's is not well controlled, | 0:34:07 | 0:34:10 | |
there's a loss of dopamine in the brain, | 0:34:10 | 0:34:12 | |
so we see lots of activity here. | 0:34:12 | 0:34:14 | |
With so little dopamine, | 0:34:16 | 0:34:17 | |
someone with Parkinson's would be struggling to move and function. | 0:34:17 | 0:34:21 | |
Now we look at the middle slide | 0:34:22 | 0:34:25 | |
and this is after the person is told that they're going to get | 0:34:25 | 0:34:30 | |
active drug, but in fact they receive placebo. | 0:34:30 | 0:34:34 | |
And you can see a striking reduction in activity here | 0:34:34 | 0:34:38 | |
which indicates that their brains have released a lot of dopamine. | 0:34:38 | 0:34:42 | |
The intense red colours in the striatum area of the brain | 0:34:44 | 0:34:48 | |
show how little dopamine is present at baseline. | 0:34:48 | 0:34:51 | |
The decrease in the red colouring | 0:34:53 | 0:34:55 | |
shows how the placebo can release dopamine just like the real drugs. | 0:34:55 | 0:35:00 | |
What we found is that, in somebody with Parkinson's disease, | 0:35:04 | 0:35:08 | |
a placebo can release as much dopamine as amphetamine or speed can | 0:35:08 | 0:35:13 | |
in somebody with a healthy dopamine system. | 0:35:13 | 0:35:16 | |
So it's a very dramatic response. | 0:35:16 | 0:35:18 | |
There are physical things that change in me when I take my meds | 0:35:20 | 0:35:24 | |
and I didn't think a placebo would be capable of, you know... | 0:35:24 | 0:35:28 | |
There's no way - you know, how could a sugar pill or whatever, | 0:35:28 | 0:35:31 | |
you know, make me feel like I had taken my Sinemet? | 0:35:31 | 0:35:34 | |
I'm thrilled to death to know that I still have the ability | 0:35:34 | 0:35:36 | |
on a short-term basis to produce dopamine and get going, right? | 0:35:36 | 0:35:39 | |
Several studies have now shown that a placebo can ease | 0:35:41 | 0:35:45 | |
the symptoms of Parkinson's - even if only in the short term. | 0:35:45 | 0:35:49 | |
Once again, the placebo works | 0:35:50 | 0:35:53 | |
by tapping into the brain's internal pharmacy. | 0:35:53 | 0:35:55 | |
All these studies raise another intriguing question. | 0:35:57 | 0:36:00 | |
For a placebo to work, why do we need to believe that it's real? | 0:36:04 | 0:36:09 | |
Pull your body into the rock, that's nice. | 0:36:20 | 0:36:22 | |
For Tor Wager, it's all about our expectations. | 0:36:24 | 0:36:27 | |
They can make a difference to what happens in our bodies - | 0:36:31 | 0:36:34 | |
and that's true whether you take a pill, | 0:36:34 | 0:36:37 | |
undergo an operation or climb a mountain. | 0:36:37 | 0:36:42 | |
Stand up on that back foot, Tor. | 0:36:42 | 0:36:44 | |
Climbing is a dangerous sport. | 0:36:47 | 0:36:50 | |
One false move, and things could go badly wrong for Tor - | 0:36:50 | 0:36:55 | |
except, of course, that he's got a rope. | 0:36:55 | 0:36:58 | |
And that changes everything. | 0:37:00 | 0:37:02 | |
-Going right. Watch me here. -Good. | 0:37:02 | 0:37:06 | |
He expects to be safe. | 0:37:06 | 0:37:08 | |
Step through, beautiful, that's it. | 0:37:08 | 0:37:10 | |
And yet, without his belief that everything will be OK, | 0:37:12 | 0:37:15 | |
he'd be so nervous he could barely climb. | 0:37:15 | 0:37:17 | |
When I was up there on the rock, my heart started beating, | 0:37:20 | 0:37:23 | |
blood flow changed to my fingers, my brain's releasing opioids, | 0:37:23 | 0:37:27 | |
releasing dopamine, and all those things are helping me perform, | 0:37:27 | 0:37:30 | |
and they're also having various impacts on my body. | 0:37:30 | 0:37:33 | |
Those impacts depend on the feeling, the knowledge that I'm safe. | 0:37:34 | 0:37:38 | |
Take off that rope, it would be a completely different world - | 0:37:38 | 0:37:41 | |
my heart rate would go crazy, I'd be sweating, and so forth. | 0:37:41 | 0:37:46 | |
Ultimately, it's about the link between our minds and our bodies. | 0:37:48 | 0:37:53 | |
Whether it's fear or hope, our thoughts and expectations | 0:37:55 | 0:38:00 | |
can trigger chemical reactions that change our bodies. | 0:38:00 | 0:38:04 | |
So, if we expect a placebo to do something, | 0:38:06 | 0:38:10 | |
it can release chemicals in our brains and change our physiology. | 0:38:10 | 0:38:15 | |
Scientists are now exploring | 0:38:19 | 0:38:21 | |
just how much our expectations are capable of. | 0:38:21 | 0:38:24 | |
As well as pain, they've found that placebos can alleviate conditions | 0:38:25 | 0:38:30 | |
from depression to insomnia, | 0:38:30 | 0:38:33 | |
nausea to attention-deficit disorder. | 0:38:33 | 0:38:36 | |
And because it's all about your expectations, even the size | 0:38:38 | 0:38:43 | |
and shape of a pill can make a difference to how well it works. | 0:38:43 | 0:38:47 | |
Studies have shown that capsules are more effective than tablets. | 0:38:48 | 0:38:53 | |
A large capsule is better than a small capsule. | 0:38:54 | 0:38:57 | |
Expensive medications are more effective than cheap medications. | 0:38:57 | 0:39:02 | |
Colour makes a difference - | 0:39:02 | 0:39:04 | |
red pills are more effective for treating pain, | 0:39:04 | 0:39:08 | |
blue pills are more effective for treating anxiety. | 0:39:08 | 0:39:12 | |
Unless you happen to be male and Italian, | 0:39:14 | 0:39:16 | |
in which case blue is the colour of your national football team, | 0:39:16 | 0:39:20 | |
and a symbol of immense excitement, passion, and heartache. | 0:39:20 | 0:39:25 | |
In that case, according to research, | 0:39:25 | 0:39:28 | |
a blue pill won't help relax you - it will do the opposite. | 0:39:28 | 0:39:32 | |
But there are clear limits to what placebos can do. | 0:39:34 | 0:39:37 | |
They certainly won't fix a broken leg or help to shrink a tumour. | 0:39:38 | 0:39:43 | |
But in the areas where they seem effective, | 0:39:44 | 0:39:46 | |
scientists are beginning to wonder how we can make the most of them. | 0:39:46 | 0:39:51 | |
There is, however, a problem with dummy pills and sham surgeries. | 0:40:01 | 0:40:05 | |
They rely on deception. | 0:40:05 | 0:40:07 | |
You're not told the truth. | 0:40:08 | 0:40:11 | |
That seems to be why they work - because you think they're real. | 0:40:11 | 0:40:15 | |
Obviously doctors don't want to lie to their patients. | 0:40:16 | 0:40:20 | |
So how do we harness the power of the placebo effect without lying? | 0:40:20 | 0:40:25 | |
It's a question that one of the most prestigious medical schools in the world is hoping to answer. | 0:40:29 | 0:40:35 | |
In 2010, Harvard established a Program in Placebo Studies. | 0:40:37 | 0:40:42 | |
It aims to work out how we can use the placebo effect | 0:40:42 | 0:40:47 | |
to make people better. | 0:40:47 | 0:40:49 | |
Ted Kaptchuk is the Director. | 0:40:49 | 0:40:52 | |
In the last 15-20 years, | 0:40:52 | 0:40:53 | |
there's been an explosion of research in placebo studies. | 0:40:53 | 0:40:56 | |
We've learnt so much, but there's so much more to do. | 0:40:56 | 0:40:59 | |
The underlying goal is how do we learn to harness it and use it | 0:41:01 | 0:41:05 | |
to help people get better, healthier and stronger lives? | 0:41:05 | 0:41:08 | |
Recently, Ted decided to challenge | 0:41:10 | 0:41:13 | |
one of the most basic assumptions about placebos. | 0:41:13 | 0:41:16 | |
He decided to conduct an experiment to see | 0:41:16 | 0:41:19 | |
whether we really need to be duped for a placebo to work. | 0:41:19 | 0:41:24 | |
The conventional wisdom was that you have to use either deception | 0:41:24 | 0:41:27 | |
or concealment in order for a placebo to work. | 0:41:27 | 0:41:30 | |
We decided to test whether or not you could still get a placebo effect | 0:41:30 | 0:41:35 | |
if you gave a person a placebo and told them it was a placebo. | 0:41:35 | 0:41:38 | |
Linda Buonanno has suffered from irritable bowel syndrome for 16 years. | 0:41:40 | 0:41:45 | |
At times, the symptoms are bad enough | 0:41:45 | 0:41:48 | |
that she doesn't want to leave home. | 0:41:48 | 0:41:50 | |
Along with 80 other sufferers of IBS, | 0:41:50 | 0:41:53 | |
she was recruited onto Ted's trial. | 0:41:53 | 0:41:56 | |
She was given some pills and told they were a placebo, | 0:41:56 | 0:42:00 | |
with no active ingredient, | 0:42:00 | 0:42:03 | |
but that they might work, thanks to her own self-healing processes. | 0:42:03 | 0:42:08 | |
I said, "What? A placebo?" | 0:42:08 | 0:42:10 | |
Because I'd just finished college as a medical assistant | 0:42:10 | 0:42:13 | |
and I'm thinking, "He wants me to take sugar pills? | 0:42:13 | 0:42:16 | |
"This isn't going to work." | 0:42:16 | 0:42:18 | |
But I said I'd do it, so I went home, I started taking 'em... | 0:42:18 | 0:42:22 | |
..and after three days I realised I wasn't in any pain any more. | 0:42:33 | 0:42:37 | |
I didn't have any intestinal pain, | 0:42:39 | 0:42:41 | |
I didn't keep running to the bathroom or anything like that. | 0:42:41 | 0:42:45 | |
I didn't have any stomach cramps, I had nothing, all the symptoms, | 0:42:45 | 0:42:49 | |
the severe symptoms I had, were gone. | 0:42:49 | 0:42:51 | |
I thought, no, this is not happening, | 0:42:54 | 0:42:56 | |
this can't be, a sugar pill does not get rid of the problems, right? | 0:42:56 | 0:43:00 | |
Linda wasn't the only study participant who reported | 0:43:02 | 0:43:05 | |
improved symptoms from a pill she knew to be inactive. | 0:43:05 | 0:43:09 | |
I was taken aback when we finished the trial | 0:43:10 | 0:43:12 | |
and our statisticians showed us the results | 0:43:12 | 0:43:15 | |
and it was much stronger than we expected. | 0:43:15 | 0:43:17 | |
62 per cent said they got adequate relief | 0:43:17 | 0:43:20 | |
from being on the placebo pill. | 0:43:20 | 0:43:22 | |
People who got nothing, I think it was around 30%, said they had adequate relief, | 0:43:22 | 0:43:26 | |
so there's a real big difference, it was easy to detect. | 0:43:26 | 0:43:29 | |
But the study - and the supply of placebo pills - | 0:43:30 | 0:43:33 | |
only lasted a few weeks. | 0:43:33 | 0:43:35 | |
When the pills ran out, Linda's problems returned. | 0:43:36 | 0:43:40 | |
It was three weeks, I think it was, and everything was fine, | 0:43:41 | 0:43:44 | |
and then all of a sudden I'm not taking 'em any more | 0:43:44 | 0:43:47 | |
and all the symptoms came back. | 0:43:47 | 0:43:49 | |
It was horrible, it was like, | 0:43:49 | 0:43:51 | |
oh, man, I've got to suffer with this again? | 0:43:51 | 0:43:53 | |
Linda decided to try and buy some more placebo pills. | 0:43:58 | 0:44:02 | |
I tried to go to one of the health food stores | 0:44:05 | 0:44:07 | |
to buy the placebo pills but they didn't have them. | 0:44:07 | 0:44:10 | |
The fella in the store was, you know, | 0:44:14 | 0:44:16 | |
thought it was kind of odd why I would be asking for placebo pills. | 0:44:16 | 0:44:19 | |
They had nothing else that would replace it, | 0:44:19 | 0:44:21 | |
so I couldn't do anything, I was really disappointed. | 0:44:21 | 0:44:24 | |
Well, several patients actually asked us for more placebo pills. | 0:44:24 | 0:44:29 | |
Our Ethics Committee only gave us permission for three weeks | 0:44:29 | 0:44:32 | |
of treating people with placebo pills, and, as you can imagine, | 0:44:32 | 0:44:35 | |
I don't believe they're listed as a labelled drug in the United States. | 0:44:35 | 0:44:41 | |
So we weren't able to prescribe after that. | 0:44:41 | 0:44:43 | |
It's hard to know why Linda's symptoms disappeared, | 0:44:43 | 0:44:47 | |
when she took something that she knew was chemically worthless. | 0:44:47 | 0:44:52 | |
The study only looked at whether it would work, not why. | 0:44:53 | 0:44:57 | |
But Ted has a theory. | 0:44:57 | 0:44:59 | |
What I think happened is that just seeing our study physician... | 0:45:00 | 0:45:06 | |
..taking pills two times a day, in some way your body feels, | 0:45:08 | 0:45:13 | |
recognises, moves in a way that's moving towards health. | 0:45:13 | 0:45:16 | |
This is the body knowing something that's beyond their ability | 0:45:16 | 0:45:20 | |
to consciously be aware of. | 0:45:20 | 0:45:23 | |
I don't understand it, I don't know why and probably never will. | 0:45:23 | 0:45:26 | |
But there's something. I think I'm wishing for a cure | 0:45:26 | 0:45:30 | |
and I'm wishing for something to make this all disappear. | 0:45:30 | 0:45:33 | |
I think if I wish hard enough, it'll work, I guess. | 0:45:33 | 0:45:36 | |
Exactly why the pills worked remains a mystery. | 0:45:39 | 0:45:42 | |
And a small, short-term study like this certainly doesn't mean | 0:45:42 | 0:45:47 | |
that we can simply replace real drugs with placebos. | 0:45:47 | 0:45:51 | |
But it does call into question | 0:45:51 | 0:45:53 | |
the fundamental assumption about placebos - | 0:45:53 | 0:45:56 | |
the idea that we need to be duped for them to work. | 0:45:56 | 0:46:00 | |
At Harvard, other scientists are searching for ways | 0:46:02 | 0:46:05 | |
that we can use the power of the placebo without deception. | 0:46:05 | 0:46:09 | |
One of Ted's colleagues has studied something you might have thought | 0:46:09 | 0:46:14 | |
wouldn't have anything to do with placebos. | 0:46:14 | 0:46:17 | |
And that is hypnosis. | 0:46:17 | 0:46:19 | |
There's a lot of overlap between the idea of placebo | 0:46:20 | 0:46:24 | |
and the idea of hypnosis. | 0:46:24 | 0:46:26 | |
Separate the two index fingers. | 0:46:27 | 0:46:29 | |
And lift your hands and your arms up. | 0:46:29 | 0:46:32 | |
First of all, they're all based on belief, expectation and suggestion. | 0:46:32 | 0:46:38 | |
A hypnotic induction is a procedure | 0:46:40 | 0:46:42 | |
that has no active ingredient except for the person's belief | 0:46:42 | 0:46:46 | |
and understanding about what it is supposed to do. | 0:46:46 | 0:46:49 | |
Mike Gow is a dentist and a hypnotist. | 0:46:52 | 0:46:55 | |
He's preparing David for a major procedure. | 0:46:56 | 0:46:59 | |
He's going to extract his wisdom tooth. | 0:46:59 | 0:47:02 | |
So, as you can see from his X-ray, a lower wisdom tooth never developed | 0:47:04 | 0:47:08 | |
in the first place and that's why the upper tooth is actually | 0:47:08 | 0:47:11 | |
erupting down into the space where that tooth would've been. | 0:47:11 | 0:47:14 | |
When that happens, the tooth starts rubbing into the cheek, | 0:47:14 | 0:47:17 | |
it starts biting down on the gum below, | 0:47:17 | 0:47:19 | |
it also becomes very difficult for David to clean, | 0:47:19 | 0:47:22 | |
and actually he's got some decay in this tooth, | 0:47:22 | 0:47:25 | |
so almost impossible to get in to do a standard filling or restoration, | 0:47:25 | 0:47:29 | |
and the tooth is in danger of breaking down and decaying further. | 0:47:29 | 0:47:33 | |
Normally, removing a wisdom tooth would require | 0:47:33 | 0:47:36 | |
the injection of a strong local anaesthetic. | 0:47:36 | 0:47:39 | |
But David doesn't want one. | 0:47:39 | 0:47:42 | |
I don't like getting the injections | 0:47:42 | 0:47:44 | |
and having the numb mouth afterwards. | 0:47:44 | 0:47:46 | |
So I had the opportunity to have hypnosis as a treatment | 0:47:46 | 0:47:51 | |
for getting the wisdom tooth removed and I thought I'd give it a go. | 0:47:51 | 0:47:55 | |
David is having no pharmacological anaesthetic today. | 0:47:58 | 0:48:02 | |
He's not taking anything, he's not having any injections, | 0:48:02 | 0:48:05 | |
this is going to be just hypnosis. This is the plan, of course. | 0:48:05 | 0:48:09 | |
If we need to use anaesthetic, then we have it. | 0:48:09 | 0:48:12 | |
The only active ingredient in David's pain relief will be | 0:48:12 | 0:48:16 | |
the way Mike interacts with him - | 0:48:16 | 0:48:19 | |
his hypnotic induction. | 0:48:19 | 0:48:21 | |
Just notice this wave of relaxation now, | 0:48:23 | 0:48:27 | |
more and more in control of your thoughts and feelings, | 0:48:27 | 0:48:33 | |
calmer and calmer. | 0:48:33 | 0:48:35 | |
And if I lift the left hand all the way up... | 0:48:37 | 0:48:39 | |
The act of inducing hypnosis is a way of giving the person | 0:48:41 | 0:48:47 | |
permission, disinhibiting them, | 0:48:47 | 0:48:50 | |
so that they can now believe in their own abilities to block pain, | 0:48:50 | 0:48:55 | |
to experience things differently. | 0:48:55 | 0:48:57 | |
Just notice how the index finger and thumb just feel kind of dull | 0:48:58 | 0:49:03 | |
and insensitive, don't they? | 0:49:03 | 0:49:05 | |
Yeah? | 0:49:06 | 0:49:07 | |
Are you happy now to transfer that feeling around the tooth? | 0:49:08 | 0:49:12 | |
Cold... | 0:49:14 | 0:49:16 | |
dull, and insensitive. | 0:49:16 | 0:49:18 | |
David's wisdom tooth is firmly encased | 0:49:26 | 0:49:29 | |
in the bone that surrounds it. | 0:49:29 | 0:49:31 | |
Mike's first job is to gradually enlarge the socket. | 0:49:31 | 0:49:35 | |
DISTORTED: And just notice now, as you allow the mouth to open, | 0:49:38 | 0:49:42 | |
just feeling that pressure. | 0:49:42 | 0:49:45 | |
Relaxed... | 0:49:45 | 0:49:48 | |
..and comfortable. | 0:49:50 | 0:49:51 | |
Throughout the procedure, | 0:49:51 | 0:49:53 | |
David has been told to rate his pain on a zero to ten scale. | 0:49:53 | 0:49:58 | |
And just write down a wee number now. | 0:49:58 | 0:50:00 | |
A zero, that's excellent. | 0:50:01 | 0:50:03 | |
As you allow the mouth to open again, | 0:50:07 | 0:50:10 | |
just pushing and pressure, | 0:50:10 | 0:50:14 | |
comfortable...sensations. | 0:50:14 | 0:50:18 | |
Again, just write down any little number. | 0:50:19 | 0:50:23 | |
A one. | 0:50:23 | 0:50:25 | |
Clearly, David's pain scores aren't low | 0:50:27 | 0:50:29 | |
because of any painkilling drugs he's received. | 0:50:29 | 0:50:32 | |
It's his own internal painkilling systems that are working - | 0:50:32 | 0:50:37 | |
the same as those that can be activated by a placebo. | 0:50:37 | 0:50:41 | |
You might think of hypnosis as a procedure that allows people | 0:50:41 | 0:50:46 | |
to turn on their own ability to produce a placebo effect. | 0:50:46 | 0:50:52 | |
Having widened the socket sufficiently, | 0:50:53 | 0:50:56 | |
Mike is ready for the critical moment - | 0:50:56 | 0:50:58 | |
tearing the tooth from the ligament that holds it in place. | 0:50:58 | 0:51:02 | |
Calm... | 0:51:02 | 0:51:04 | |
control. | 0:51:04 | 0:51:06 | |
Eyes open. Wide awake. | 0:51:18 | 0:51:20 | |
That was awesome. Very well done. | 0:51:20 | 0:51:22 | |
Good. So, the final moment of removing the tooth, | 0:51:24 | 0:51:27 | |
there's a lot of pressure, | 0:51:27 | 0:51:29 | |
and I'd be interested to know what number you were at. | 0:51:29 | 0:51:33 | |
It was...probably a four-ish. | 0:51:33 | 0:51:36 | |
-About a four. -In the final moment, yeah. | 0:51:36 | 0:51:39 | |
Without any form of pain relief, I would expect it to be an 8 or a 9, | 0:51:39 | 0:51:43 | |
without anything at all, so I think a number 4 is excellent. | 0:51:43 | 0:51:51 | |
It's such a different sensation. | 0:51:51 | 0:51:53 | |
I didn't really feel anything, | 0:51:53 | 0:51:55 | |
just the point at which it pulled out, it was quite a sudden thing, | 0:51:55 | 0:52:00 | |
but it wasn't anything more than that, I would have thought. | 0:52:00 | 0:52:04 | |
By changing his expectations about what he would feel, | 0:52:04 | 0:52:08 | |
Mike enabled David to release the painkillers in his brain. | 0:52:08 | 0:52:12 | |
He gave him a placebo effect, | 0:52:13 | 0:52:15 | |
not with a dummy pill or a sham surgery, but with words. | 0:52:15 | 0:52:20 | |
Hypnosis may not be the only way | 0:52:22 | 0:52:24 | |
to get a placebo effect without deception, | 0:52:24 | 0:52:28 | |
but it's certainly an excellent way to do that | 0:52:28 | 0:52:31 | |
and you can think of it as an extra strength, non-deceptive placebo. | 0:52:31 | 0:52:37 | |
It seems that something about the relationship | 0:52:37 | 0:52:41 | |
between practitioner and patient | 0:52:41 | 0:52:43 | |
lies at the heart of inducing a placebo effect without deception. | 0:52:43 | 0:52:48 | |
So, is it possible for doctors to give patients a placebo effect | 0:52:54 | 0:52:59 | |
by changing nothing more than their relationship with their patient? | 0:52:59 | 0:53:03 | |
Answering that question could help provide the key | 0:53:04 | 0:53:07 | |
to unlock our body's potential to heal itself. | 0:53:07 | 0:53:12 | |
Ted Kaptchuk set up an experiment to find out. | 0:53:12 | 0:53:15 | |
People with irritable bowel syndrome were recruited | 0:53:19 | 0:53:22 | |
to be treated with acupuncture. | 0:53:22 | 0:53:24 | |
They were divided into different groups. | 0:53:24 | 0:53:27 | |
In one group, | 0:53:27 | 0:53:28 | |
the acupuncturist's interaction with their patient was strictly limited. | 0:53:28 | 0:53:33 | |
We did not allow the practitioner to have an interaction with the patient. | 0:53:33 | 0:53:37 | |
And that meant the patient came in, the practitioner said, | 0:53:43 | 0:53:46 | |
"My name is...I've read the charts, | 0:53:46 | 0:53:48 | |
"I'm going to treat you with acupuncture. | 0:53:48 | 0:53:50 | |
"I've been asked by the research scientists not to interact, to not confuse the scientific question." | 0:53:50 | 0:53:55 | |
Hi, Mr Casey, come on in. | 0:53:55 | 0:53:58 | |
In another group, the patients were treated | 0:53:59 | 0:54:02 | |
in as caring and supportive a manner as possible. | 0:54:02 | 0:54:05 | |
We added a warm supportive relationship, | 0:54:08 | 0:54:11 | |
which included delving deeply into a patient's life, | 0:54:11 | 0:54:15 | |
how does this affect your life, | 0:54:15 | 0:54:16 | |
what's your relationship to these symptoms, | 0:54:16 | 0:54:19 | |
how does it affect your being able to have family, friends, work. | 0:54:19 | 0:54:23 | |
And tell me what kind of improvements you'd like to see, | 0:54:23 | 0:54:26 | |
so I get a good sense of that. | 0:54:26 | 0:54:28 | |
Empathy, expressing how we understood how difficult this was. | 0:54:28 | 0:54:32 | |
Some way, we had to touch the patient. | 0:54:32 | 0:54:35 | |
Thoughtful silence - we tried to have the practitioner | 0:54:35 | 0:54:37 | |
think for a moment and then ask to repeat a question | 0:54:37 | 0:54:40 | |
and some statement of confidence, "I think this is going to work." | 0:54:40 | 0:54:43 | |
I'm pretty sure these treatments will be very helpful for you, | 0:54:43 | 0:54:47 | |
and I hope they push you along to the next level. | 0:54:47 | 0:54:49 | |
All Ted was interested in was the placebo effect of this interaction - | 0:54:49 | 0:54:54 | |
so all active treatment was removed. | 0:54:54 | 0:54:57 | |
The patients would receive acupuncture | 0:54:58 | 0:55:01 | |
with needles that couldn't even puncture their skin. | 0:55:01 | 0:55:04 | |
The needle is... It looks like an acupuncture pin, | 0:55:05 | 0:55:09 | |
it's impossible to tell the difference unless you have... | 0:55:09 | 0:55:12 | |
I can barely see any difference. | 0:55:12 | 0:55:14 | |
Watch it go in. | 0:55:14 | 0:55:15 | |
See it go in. | 0:55:16 | 0:55:17 | |
And what happened is that it went up the shaft of the needle, | 0:55:18 | 0:55:21 | |
like a magic sword. | 0:55:23 | 0:55:25 | |
It's no surprise that a patient treated in a caring way | 0:55:25 | 0:55:28 | |
might feel more looked after. | 0:55:28 | 0:55:30 | |
-You feel it yet? -I do. -OK. | 0:55:30 | 0:55:32 | |
-But it's not bad, right? -It's not bad. | 0:55:32 | 0:55:35 | |
But could it really make them better? | 0:55:35 | 0:55:38 | |
After all, it's just about being nice. | 0:55:38 | 0:55:41 | |
But Ted's results show that the relationship between a doctor | 0:55:45 | 0:55:49 | |
and their patient is significant. | 0:55:49 | 0:55:52 | |
With no doctor/patient relationship, | 0:55:52 | 0:55:54 | |
42% had adequate relief. | 0:55:54 | 0:55:58 | |
And on the full monty, the... everything, with doctor/patient | 0:55:58 | 0:56:02 | |
and the practitioner relationship and all the other arms | 0:56:02 | 0:56:05 | |
we got 62% reporting adequate relief. | 0:56:05 | 0:56:08 | |
What it's telling us is that a practitioner interaction | 0:56:09 | 0:56:13 | |
dramatically optimises the placebo effect. | 0:56:13 | 0:56:16 | |
Ted's study shows that a doctor can potentially create a placebo effect | 0:56:19 | 0:56:25 | |
just by changing the way they behave and the things they say. | 0:56:25 | 0:56:28 | |
It's still early days for the research at Harvard, | 0:56:31 | 0:56:34 | |
but it suggests that we can use the power of the placebo effect | 0:56:34 | 0:56:39 | |
to help make drugs and surgery more effective. | 0:56:39 | 0:56:42 | |
Placebo research is still in its infancy. | 0:56:51 | 0:56:55 | |
There's much more to learn. | 0:56:55 | 0:56:57 | |
Why do some people respond better than others? | 0:56:57 | 0:57:00 | |
Do genetics play a role? | 0:57:00 | 0:57:02 | |
What exactly does a doctor need to do to harness the placebo effect? | 0:57:04 | 0:57:08 | |
But one thing we know for sure is that it's real. | 0:57:10 | 0:57:14 | |
Even the most sceptical people now accept | 0:57:15 | 0:57:18 | |
that there is something in the placebo effect. | 0:57:18 | 0:57:21 | |
And that's a sea-change on 20 or 30 years ago where people | 0:57:22 | 0:57:25 | |
were routinely describing the placebo as an experimental artefact. | 0:57:25 | 0:57:30 | |
The placebo effect is real, quantifiable | 0:57:30 | 0:57:34 | |
and in fact you're doing quite well with an active therapy | 0:57:34 | 0:57:38 | |
if you can get as good a response as the placebo response. | 0:57:38 | 0:57:41 | |
The pills and procedures of modern medicine | 0:57:41 | 0:57:45 | |
have brought us unprecedented good health. | 0:57:45 | 0:57:48 | |
But in many cases it seems they're not acting alone. | 0:57:49 | 0:57:52 | |
The placebo effect is intertwined with everything we do in healthcare. | 0:57:53 | 0:57:59 | |
It was there from the beginning, it'll be there to the end. | 0:57:59 | 0:58:03 | |
The challenge facing researchers now | 0:58:04 | 0:58:06 | |
is to better understand the mechanisms by which it works. | 0:58:06 | 0:58:10 | |
So that ultimately we can use it | 0:58:11 | 0:58:13 | |
and make the most of the power of the placebo. | 0:58:13 | 0:58:18 |