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This is the story of an incredible scientific adventure.

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Of an unlikely collection of scientists and engineers,

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dreamers and schemers, who attempted the impossible.

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To control gravity.

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Gravity is the fundamental force that holds us to the earth

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and binds the universe together, yet we still don't fully understand it.

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Gravity is the most mysterious of all the fundamental forces.

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The ultimate challenge I can think of as a scientist

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is to control gravity.

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The scientific quest triggered a race between rival corporations,

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governments, and military...

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It can destroy the missiles or remove them from their trajectory.

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..fuelled by the paranoid fear of missing

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the greatest technological advance in history.

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If just one that here works, if only partly, you won the jackpot!

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If this ever happened, it's going to change aerospace.

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The potential is so great, if I did not bring this to

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the attention of the Pentagon, oh, I would have been fired!

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The search for gravity control

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ranges from Washington to the streets of Eastern Europe,

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from the deserts of America to the furthest reaches of the cosmos.

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Dark energy has some sort of antigravity.

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We still don't know whether it's something that we can ever harness.

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Someone might wonder, why can't we build a machine with it?

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We just need to find the trick.

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Unlikely as it may seem,

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the story begins in a corner of Lancashire, near Blackpool,

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with a humble engineer who had a dream.

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It's only another force field, but wouldn't it be good

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if we could actually control it and do more?

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If the dream of gravity control ever came true, it would

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revolutionise the world and could send us to the stars.

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PEOPLE WHOOP AND SCREAM

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In the late 1980s, aerospace engineer Ron Evans

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was working in the defence industry in Lancashire.

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He'd been trying to find a way to detect stealth bombers

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using fluctuations in gravity...

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..and he wondered if he could take it even further.

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Could he use gravity to levitate a plane?

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Of course, it was impossible, but Ron did something

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a bit reckless - he asked his employer if they'd let him try.

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Ron's employer was the biggest defence

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and aerospace contractor in Europe - BAE Systems.

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And instead of telling him to have a cup of tea and a lie down,

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they listened.

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I had to go to the head of the technology board -

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it's a panel - and persuade them that it was worth doing.

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Now, clearly, it was very speculative.

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I had to go away and come up with some concepts

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and come up with some ideas that could actually feature

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an antigravity or a gravity-type propulsion system.

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Well, this was one of the designs that we came up with.

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For a start, it wouldn't be limited to just flying in the air.

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It could fly anywhere - into space, even into water.

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And of course, it was a vertical takeoff design

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because it had a gravity engine inside

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but it didn't look very exciting, and so...

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we asked the artist to put some green rays underneath.

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That made it look far more futuristic.

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Let's be clear that not everyone in the company

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thought we should be doing it.

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There were quite a few that felt, we make aircraft,

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we're good at it and that's what we should be doing.

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But there were a few - and some very senior people - that felt,

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OK, let's just have a little look at the future.

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And the concept became known as Greenglow.

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As head of Project Greenglow, Ron's job was to find

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and develop advanced propulsion systems to overcome gravity.

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The potential was enormous, if it happened.

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It would totally change aerospace.

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And Ron was not alone.

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At around the same time, in the US,

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NASA began a parallel project headed by aerospace engineer Marc Millis.

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It was around 1996 when I was asked to lead

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the Breakthrough Propulsion Physics Project -

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things like non-rocket space drives,

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interstellar propulsion and manipulating gravity,

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things like that.

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For that project, the idea was to think radical, think big.

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However, today,

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NASA says it has moved on and doesn't want to look back.

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We can't go in there to talk about it now

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because NASA's not doing that work right now.

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At BAE Systems, the same situation.

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The company no longer wants to discuss Project Greenglow.

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We asked whether we could go there

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and talk to them about it and they just said no.

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Gravity control is a dark and dangerous science.

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Like modern-day alchemy, it promises a glittering prize,

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but it can destroy your reputation.

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Years earlier, Ron had watched a gravity experiment

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bring down one of Britain's best-known scientists...

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'This time, I call for a volunteer.'

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..professor of engineering at Imperial College London,

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Eric Laithwaite.

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'And then we're going to spin up the biggest gyro of the day,

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'which is here.'

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Like millions of others, Ron had been spellbound

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by Laithwaite's Christmas lecture at the Royal Institution in 1974.

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I can make him raise it.

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Now...

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Laithwaite suggested that by spinning a heavy wheel,

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he could make it counteract gravity.

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Ron has returned to the Royal Institution

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to try and recreate the effect.

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-Does it feel light?

-It does.

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-It feels very light.

-With the help of fellow engineer Dr Adam Wojcik.

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'What I think was at the back of Laithwaite's mind'

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was that there was a force in one direction more than in the other,

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and so the gyro will start to rise up.

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And that gives you the illusion as though it's losing weight. It isn't.

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It's just an illusion.

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But is it lighter?

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When the gyroscope is rotated in the same direction it's spinning,

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it's given an upward lift.

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-And if I rotate in the opposite sense...

-Oh! That does look heavy.

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-Ooh, careful!

-Wow!

-Careful, careful!

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When it's rotated in the opposite direction,

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the opposite happens, and it seems to get heavier.

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Still hoping to make gravity control a subject of serious research,

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Laithwaite acknowledged his mistake.

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Yet his reputation was irreparably damaged.

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He was snubbed by the academic establishment

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and felt obliged to leave his position at the Royal Institution.

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Professor Laithwaite got into a lot of trouble with this,

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really, because of the claim that it got lighter, which is antigravity.

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And the academics jump on any antigravity device

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as being impossible.

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Well, it's not impossible.

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It's just we don't know how to do it. But we should look.

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It's like flight in the last century.

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In those days, anybody that said they could fly

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was looked upon as a lunatic!

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The difference is that, before humans could fly,

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we knew birds could. We could study aerodynamics.

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But there was nothing we knew of

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that could actually overcome gravity.

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The dream of lifting effortlessly from the earth

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is not confined to engineers.

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Despite being so contentious,

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many academics are rather seduced by the idea.

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Dr Tamara Davis is among them.

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From a little kid, I always wanted to go and visit other planets

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and go up into space.

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And to be able to have a form of propulsion

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that could get me there easily would be fantastic.

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But we don't yet know

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whether we can manipulate gravity or have any control over it.

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There is one fundamental force we know we CAN control,

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which we've used to build our modern world - electromagnetism.

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It gives us a tantalising illusion of gravity control...

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..when we levitate a magnet.

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Ta-da!

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Electromagnetic repulsion balances the weight of the magnet

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by using the same magnetic polarity in the base.

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We know that like charges repel.

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So here, we just have a magnetic field that's levitating a magnet.

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So this is nothing mysterious. This is just electromagnetism.

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Let's see if I can get this across.

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Come on!

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The power of control we get from electromagnetism lies in

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the fact that we can change its polarity

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and make it either repel or attract.

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So in electromagnetism,

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we have positive charges and negative charges.

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And they tend to attract each other.

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If you have a positive charge and a positive charge,

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it will repel from each other, but...

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wouldn't it be great

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if we could get gravity to work in reverse and be able to

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levitate things using gravity?

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Only problem is, there isn't any negative gravity,

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there isn't any antigravity that pushes.

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Gravity always pulls, as far as we know.

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The reason seems to be that, unlike electromagnetism,

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gravity has only one kind of polarity - positive.

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One mass is simply attracted to another.

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Gravity and electromagnetism are completely different forces.

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There's a very special property of gravity - that is that it adds up.

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Inside an atom, there's a positive nucleus surrounded by

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negative electrons, so the electromagnetic value cancels out,

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whereas there's nothing to cancel out its mass.

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So the force on one atom adds to the force on another atom,

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and so they generate an attractive gravitational force.

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So if you get enough of those atoms together, like in a planet

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or in a star, then the gravitational force is very strong.

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So gravity is different.

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It adds up as you increase the amount of matter

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in a way the other forces don't.

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For physicists like John Ellis, the dream of making a one-way force

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behave like a two-way force remains just that - a dream.

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The idea that you might be able to make antigravity

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is, of course, incredibly seductive.

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We particle theorists are also seduced by that, on occasion.

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But don't think it's going to be possible within my lifetime,

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your lifetime, anybody's lifetime.

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Yet back in 1996,

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a Russian scientist working in Finland claimed to have done

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the very thing the sceptics said was impossible - control gravity.

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Dr Eugene Podkletnov had been using a machine called a cryostat

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to cool electrical superconductors

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when something very strange happened.

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One evening, we were working with our cryostat,

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and one of my colleagues, who was leaving at that time,

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just came to the laboratory and said,

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"Guys, what are you doing here?"

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And we said, "Just working." And he was smoking his pipe.

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A very interesting person.

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It is, by the way, not allowed to smoke a pipe in the laboratory,

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but it was late in the evening.

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And he blew his pipe over the cryostat,

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and the smoke went close to the cryostat,

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hit some unseen barrier and, very fast, went up.

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And it was pretty amazing.

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He repeated this several times and said,

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"You are working with magic things!"

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And he left. So that was the beginning.

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After months of investigation,

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Podkletnov concluded that what he'd created was an antigravity field.

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So we have a vacuum chamber with a disc which can be rotated

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over 10,000 rotations per minute.

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And this is a weight sample, which can move freely over the disc.

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And when the disc reaches a certain speed of rotation,

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it exerts a repulsive force on the weight sample and pushes it up.

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In fact, this is a direct demonstration of the gravity fields.

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This gravity field is, in our case, repulsive,

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and, as you can see, the repulsive force is pretty big.

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Podkletnov published a paper in a popular science journal

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which caught the attention of Ron Evans at Greenglow.

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By now, the scale of Podkletnov's claim had sent red flags

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waving everywhere - including the Ministry of Defence.

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Out of the blue, from the MoD, I got a letter...

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..asking me what I made of the Podkletnov withdrawn paper.

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Well, at the time, I didn't know what to make of it - not a lot!

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Why should a spinning superconductor change gravity?

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It was just so odd

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that it never occurred to anybody before that it even should.

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And, of course, many of the academics said, "Impossible!"

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But what Podkletnov did was, having seen it, he explored it further.

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If you spot an anomaly, then you go and investigate it to see why.

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So we invited Podkletnov to come to BAE Systems at Walton,

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but we had to get special permission from the Ministry of Defence

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to allow him to come on site.

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And I think he was quite taken that a Russian was actually...

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The very first, and probably the only,

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Russian that's ever been allowed at our Walton site.

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Ron organised a team

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to try and recreate Podkletnov's breakthrough. But they didn't

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have the budget to work with the highly specialised superconductor.

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We couldn't replicate what he'd done, so we couldn't say yes,

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he had found an effect, or no, he hadn't.

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By now, Marc Millis at NASA also wanted to know

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if there was something in Podkletnov's claim.

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And he had a much bigger budget.

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We found people who replicated the experiment with Podkletnov's help,

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and they even had 50 times the detection sensitivity

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that Podkletnov had had, and did not find any effect.

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Despite exhaustive tests, no-one seemed able to reproduce

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Podkletnov's so-called gravity field.

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I think Podkletnov had jumped to a conclusion,

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had seen some things and did not take the...rigour to go through

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and make sure that he wasn't misleading himself.

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Meanwhile, news of Podkletnov's breakthrough

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had been leaked to the press, and the resulting media storm

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obliged him to leave his university post.

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So Podkletnov went back to Moscow to work in secret.

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And by late 2001, he claimed he had a new way to manipulate gravity.

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Wary of the Western media, he contacted the one man

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he trusted to give him a fair hearing - Ron Evans at Greenglow.

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He offered to meet with Ron,

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but it would have to be in secret at a hotel in London, specified by him.

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It was a secret meeting because I did not want to attract

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the attention of military people in Russia.

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By now, Ron was getting concerned

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his project was being dragged into a world of fantasy and subterfuge.

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It really was like a John le Carre story.

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And he said he could afford us just a little bit of time, if we wanted

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to learn a little bit more about what he'd been doing in Moscow.

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Because of his security concerns,

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Podkletnov was only prepared to tell Ron the basic concept.

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I presented to him my latest works with impulse gravity generator,

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which gives a very short impulse of gravity waves.

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It's really a giant spark plug, really.

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But according to Dr Podkletnov,

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someone way away, a kilometre away, on the balcony of some flats

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in line with the beam, was still able to detect a slight effect.

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That was incredible.

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It can be used for propulsion in space,

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but at the same time, it is a very powerful weapon

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and it can destroy the missiles or remove them from their trajectory,

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so the interest from military people will be definitely big.

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What did I think? It was very...

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Dr Podkletnov is a scientist, and, you know...

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I don't know, is the answer.

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It's very hard to say, yes, I believed it.

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On the other hand, I wanted to know more, because it might be true.

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Did you really think that was feasible?

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We don't know, with gravity.

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Gravity is a subject we don't know about.

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That's why we're exploring it.

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For years, the gravity pulse concept remained shrouded in secrecy,

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and stayed unproven.

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But by the early 2000s, a new generation of scientists

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had picked up the baton from Project Greenglow...

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..including Dr Martin Tajmar,

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professor of space systems at Dresden University.

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If you look for a challenge, always look for a big challenge.

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The ultimate challenge I can think of as a scientist

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is to control gravity.

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That's maybe the most difficult thing there is, right?

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Martin is about to comprehensively test Podkletnov's concept

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once and for all.

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His claims are that it can drill holes into brick walls

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and this kind of stuff, which is an extraordinary claim.

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And if you have an extraordinary claim,

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you must have extraordinary proof.

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Antigravity is a kind of synonym for impossible.

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But always be ready for the surprise.

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This, in effect, is Podkletnov's gravity pulse generator,

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recreated by Martin and his team.

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As Ron Evans guessed, it's based on a kind of giant spark plug -

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essentially two electrodes in a box.

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Basically, you have two electrodes - one here and one here - and you are

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running a very, very high electric current, a discharge through that.

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The discharge goes through a superconductor.

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According to Podkletnov, this somehow creates a pulse of gravity,

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which is picked up by a sensor, acting like an electronic pendulum.

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And let's say, if you have here a pendulum, here,

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that when this gravitational impulse hits the pendulum,

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you will actually get a deflection off the pendulum.

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And so, the claim is that this is actually also creating

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not only an electric discharge but a kind of gravitational impulse -

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a push to something at a distance.

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The superconductor is cooled with liquid nitrogen

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to remove its electrical resistance.

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Podkletnov claimed the resulting mass of electrical discharge

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creates the gravitational pulse.

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They switch on the power to charge up the system...

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..and wait for the discharge.

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Counting down.

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BANG

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There is a reading.

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So here's the data.

0:24:020:24:03

Gravity goes with the speed of light,

0:24:030:24:06

so you should see an instantaneous peak.

0:24:060:24:08

And then, the sound from this bang, this takes some time

0:24:080:24:11

until it arrives. So we should see two distinct peaks

0:24:110:24:14

because we have such a high resolution.

0:24:140:24:16

So that's the acoustic impulse, and exactly here,

0:24:160:24:20

that's where the gravitation impulse should be, but we don't see it.

0:24:200:24:23

The sensor felt the sound wave from the spark...

0:24:250:24:27

BANG

0:24:270:24:29

..but no gravity pulse.

0:24:290:24:31

That's the most sensitive sensor there is in the world

0:24:310:24:35

and we don't even see something out of the noise,

0:24:350:24:38

so how can you make a claim to say that you move things metres away

0:24:380:24:41

or that you actually push pendulums away?

0:24:410:24:44

So that's a really outrageous claim.

0:24:440:24:46

We haven't seen something, not even remotely like that, unfortunately.

0:24:460:24:52

But, yeah... So far, no luck.

0:24:520:24:55

So this guy had the idea that by,

0:24:570:25:00

you know, messing around with superconductors,

0:25:000:25:03

he could change the strength of the gravitational field.

0:25:030:25:07

Crap!

0:25:070:25:09

None of Podkletnov's methods seemed able to alter gravity in the lab.

0:25:100:25:14

Could the reason be a simple problem of scale?

0:25:150:25:19

For physicist Clifford Johnson,

0:25:340:25:37

scale is the big Achilles heel in any idea of gravity control,

0:25:370:25:42

because at human scales, there's almost nothing there TO control.

0:25:420:25:46

Most people think that gravity's an extremely strong force.

0:25:480:25:51

And indeed, it does seem to be - it binds us here to the earth.

0:25:510:25:55

But actually, of all the forces we know in nature, it's the weakest.

0:25:550:25:59

I'm actually going to show you something.

0:26:030:26:05

We can see exactly how weak gravity is in this way.

0:26:050:26:08

I have this fridge magnet - just an ordinary fridge magnet.

0:26:080:26:12

And look - it sticks. It doesn't fall. What does that mean?

0:26:120:26:16

It means that this electromagnetic force

0:26:160:26:19

between this magnet and the car

0:26:190:26:21

is beating the force of gravity due to the entire earth.

0:26:210:26:26

Let me give you a number.

0:26:290:26:30

It's 10 to the 40 times weaker than electromagnetism.

0:26:300:26:36

That's not 10 or 10 x 40. It's 10 to the power 40.

0:26:360:26:41

So that's a one with 40 zeros after it.

0:26:410:26:45

So that's going to be part of the difficulty

0:26:450:26:48

in any experiment that we might do that tries to modify gravity.

0:26:480:26:51

It's trying to tinker with something that, on that scale, is so tiny.

0:26:510:26:55

The real effects of gravity take place when you have

0:26:550:26:59

huge amounts of mass, like the mass of the earth or something like that.

0:26:590:27:03

That's the scale on which gravity is changing

0:27:030:27:07

in a significant, measurable way.

0:27:070:27:08

There is one industry that has to deal with gravity

0:27:120:27:15

on a planetary scale.

0:27:150:27:16

That has always clamoured for some form

0:27:180:27:20

of gravity-beating propulsion.

0:27:200:27:22

The space industry.

0:27:260:27:27

Marc Millis ran NASA's Breakthrough Propulsion Project.

0:27:350:27:39

One of its long-term goals was to move away from using rockets.

0:27:390:27:43

The problem with rockets is not that they can't beat gravity -

0:27:460:27:50

it's the amount of thrust they need to do it.

0:27:500:27:53

If you think about the Apollo spacecraft

0:27:530:27:55

and you imagine here's the Saturn V,

0:27:550:27:59

the very tip of that and then a little bit below that

0:27:590:28:02

was the actual spacecraft itself

0:28:020:28:04

and all the rest of this was the propellant, the rocket fuel,

0:28:040:28:08

and that's just to the moon.

0:28:080:28:10

NASA aims to get humans to Mars and back

0:28:140:28:17

within the next decade and a half...

0:28:170:28:19

..maybe, one day, beyond the solar system itself...

0:28:200:28:23

..but just the Martian step

0:28:250:28:26

seems impractical with conventional rockets

0:28:260:28:29

because leaving the earth's gravity takes so much fuel.

0:28:290:28:33

The farther or faster that you want to go

0:28:330:28:35

or more that you want to carry,

0:28:350:28:37

you need this extra propellant to do that

0:28:370:28:39

and then you need extra propellant for the extra propellant

0:28:390:28:42

and it adds up exponentially.

0:28:420:28:44

You wanted to go to our nearest neighbouring star,

0:28:460:28:48

which is over four light-years away,

0:28:480:28:50

and you wanted to do it with the kind of rockets

0:28:500:28:52

that are on the space shuttle,

0:28:520:28:54

and say you want to do it in 50 years,

0:28:540:28:56

you're having to go a tenth of the speed of light.

0:28:560:28:58

Well, the amount propellant you need for that journey

0:28:580:29:01

is about the mass of our entire sun.

0:29:010:29:03

For Mark and NASA,

0:29:060:29:08

the focus was less on controlling gravity itself

0:29:080:29:11

than finding ways to get to the stars.

0:29:110:29:14

They didn't care how

0:29:150:29:17

as long as it didn't need rocket fuel.

0:29:170:29:19

And, in 2002,

0:29:240:29:26

a new device appeared

0:29:260:29:28

that seemed to offer a solution...

0:29:280:29:30

..invented by a former defence research engineer,

0:29:380:29:41

Roger Shawyer.

0:29:410:29:42

The big advantage of EmDrive is that it's a device which creates a force

0:29:430:29:49

but it doesn't have to shoot out a propellant out of the back.

0:29:490:29:54

Instead of using rocket fuel to create thrust,

0:29:550:29:58

the EmDrive uses microwave energy...

0:29:580:30:01

..just like a domestic oven.

0:30:020:30:04

Microwaves bounce around inside the box in waves, cooking your food.

0:30:060:30:10

To stop that energy cooking you,

0:30:120:30:14

there is a mesh on the door with holes in.

0:30:140:30:17

The diameter of these holes are so small

0:30:170:30:20

that, instead of going through it,

0:30:200:30:22

microwave radiation is actually bouncing up and down vertically

0:30:220:30:26

in the hole.

0:30:260:30:28

The holes trap the waves,

0:30:300:30:32

slowing them to a standstill.

0:30:320:30:34

According to Roger,

0:30:360:30:37

the narrow end of his EmDrive does exactly the same job.

0:30:370:30:40

The waves are going faster at the large end

0:30:410:30:45

than they are at the small end.

0:30:450:30:47

This means that the force at the large end

0:30:470:30:51

is greater than the force at the small end

0:30:510:30:53

which will cause the cavity to move in the opposite direction.

0:30:530:30:58

It would only produce a small amount of thrust,

0:31:010:31:04

but, in space, that would matter.

0:31:040:31:06

An EmDrive thruster with continuous electrical power

0:31:060:31:10

gives you continuous acceleration

0:31:100:31:12

and therefore you can achieve very large velocities

0:31:120:31:16

and travel very large distances.

0:31:160:31:18

Roger believes that, if he could make it big enough,

0:31:190:31:22

it could potentially lift us from the Earth.

0:31:220:31:26

You suddenly have a lift engine

0:31:260:31:27

which simply hovers there or indeed accelerates upwards.

0:31:270:31:31

So we can obviously envisage launching large payloads into space

0:31:310:31:36

on an EmDrive-driven space plane.

0:31:360:31:39

Essentially, we are no longer looking at ways

0:31:400:31:43

that we can control gravity itself.

0:31:430:31:45

We are beating gravity the smart way.

0:31:450:31:48

If it works.

0:31:490:31:51

Though he didn't claim to control gravity,

0:31:520:31:55

Roger's EmDrive concept was rejected by a lot of theoretical scientists,

0:31:550:32:01

who claim the basic physics just didn't add up.

0:32:010:32:04

So imagine I'm a particle of light

0:32:070:32:09

and I bounce off one side of a box.

0:32:090:32:12

I push off and I push the box that way, go this way,

0:32:120:32:16

but then I hit the other side of the box and I bounce off just as hard.

0:32:160:32:21

So the box doesn't go anywhere.

0:32:210:32:24

So, for it move, I would have to push off one side

0:32:240:32:27

and then escape out the other end the way that a rocket does.

0:32:270:32:31

So that's why we're not sure how the EmDrive works

0:32:310:32:33

because bouncing off both sides of a box you wouldn't get any thrust.

0:32:330:32:38

Newton told us that action and reaction are equal and opposite,

0:32:380:32:42

but, the EmDrive, nothing comes out

0:32:420:32:44

and so I don't see how you can generate momentum out of nothing.

0:32:440:32:48

My view is - who cares?

0:32:500:32:52

It's the experiment.

0:32:520:32:53

If the experiment works,

0:32:530:32:55

it's up to the theoretical people to put a theory round why it works.

0:32:550:33:00

From what we understand so far, it shouldn't work,

0:33:000:33:04

but if you have an open mind and say, "Well, what if...?"

0:33:040:33:07

If it does work, it's a revolution,

0:33:070:33:10

it's a new propulsion system.

0:33:100:33:11

To settle the argument between the theorists and engineers,

0:33:150:33:18

Martin Tajmar had the perfect test facility in Dresden...

0:33:180:33:22

..a large vacuum chamber mounted on dampers

0:33:260:33:28

to isolate it from the surrounding world...

0:33:280:33:31

..a carefully designed rig to hold the drive...

0:33:330:33:35

..with a finely tuned balance to record any thrust...

0:33:380:33:41

..and, most importantly,

0:33:440:33:45

a copy of Roger Shawyer's original EmDrive.

0:33:450:33:48

Martin's version is small

0:33:490:33:52

but, if the principal works,

0:33:520:33:54

there should be measurable thrust.

0:33:540:33:56

The vacuum chamber is sealed.

0:34:000:34:02

The thrust recorder inside is so sensitive

0:34:050:34:08

it can detect Martin sitting down outside.

0:34:080:34:11

We're here in a laboratory on earth so there's some seismic movement,

0:34:140:34:18

so the balance themselves will move just a little bit.

0:34:180:34:21

That's the noise we are seeing here.

0:34:210:34:23

The EmDrive is switched on.

0:34:270:34:28

Nothing appears to move.

0:34:320:34:34

But on Martin's screen there is a reading.

0:34:370:34:41

When we turn on the thruster,

0:34:410:34:42

the balance in it reacts

0:34:420:34:44

and we measure something which looks actually like a thrust.

0:34:440:34:47

What we measured here in this case is something like 25 micronewtons.

0:34:470:34:51

That's very, very small.

0:34:510:34:54

You can compare this, for example, to a tenth of the weight force

0:34:540:34:59

of a grain of rice. Incredibly small.

0:34:590:35:01

Still, however, useful.

0:35:010:35:03

For example, in space, we have thrusters actually

0:35:030:35:06

which have this tiny amount of force

0:35:060:35:08

which is still useful to manoeuvre spacecraft, for instance.

0:35:080:35:12

The first results seem positive.

0:35:140:35:16

But, when Martin experimented further,

0:35:180:35:21

he discovered a problem.

0:35:210:35:23

So, with the thruster pointing in that direction,

0:35:230:35:26

we measured thrust in that direction

0:35:260:35:28

and, when we tilted it 90 degrees,

0:35:280:35:30

we still measured thrust in this direction, which we shouldn't have.

0:35:300:35:34

There can still be some major influence

0:35:350:35:38

from, for example, the power feeding lines that we still need to solve

0:35:380:35:42

to find out what's the real thrust produced by the EmDrive,

0:35:420:35:45

if there is any thrust produced.

0:35:450:35:47

The great hope of the EmDrive was

0:35:550:35:57

that, as a kind of propellant-less rocket,

0:35:570:35:59

it would at least power vehicles in space,

0:35:590:36:02

NASA's dream.

0:36:020:36:04

But NASA didn't pursue the idea any further,

0:36:070:36:10

or any other gravity-defying concepts,

0:36:100:36:14

because, in 2002,

0:36:140:36:16

they closed down Marc Millis's project.

0:36:160:36:19

The project ended when the funding for all propulsion research was cut.

0:36:200:36:25

It wasn't just breakthrough propulsion physics,

0:36:250:36:28

it was a Congressional earmark to build a building in a certain state

0:36:280:36:32

and that took all the funding. It happens.

0:36:320:36:34

The main progress that we made is we took science-fiction notions

0:36:360:36:40

and evolved them to at least the first step of the scientific method.

0:36:400:36:44

That step by itself is a degree of progress

0:36:440:36:48

that, if I don't accomplish any more,

0:36:480:36:50

it's like, "Yeah, that was pretty good."

0:36:500:36:52

Ron Evans kept going for another three years.

0:37:040:37:07

But, when he retired in 2005,

0:37:080:37:12

BAE closed down Project Greenglow.

0:37:120:37:15

For more than a decade,

0:37:170:37:19

Ron had tried to find a way to control gravity.

0:37:190:37:22

He never managed it.

0:37:240:37:25

Is it a shame?

0:37:280:37:30

Yeah, I suppose so. I would like...

0:37:300:37:33

I would like to have worked at a company

0:37:330:37:36

that actually made this idea work.

0:37:360:37:39

It was a lovely idea.

0:37:400:37:41

When Greenglow ended,

0:37:460:37:48

the hope of mastering gravity seemed to end with it.

0:37:480:37:51

If that was ever going to change,

0:37:580:38:00

we needed to go much deeper into how gravity actually worked.

0:38:000:38:05

Our understanding of gravity

0:38:150:38:17

has come down from Galileo, Newton and Einstein...

0:38:170:38:20

..from observations rooted in the motions of the heavens.

0:38:210:38:25

Now, those same heavens seem to be showing us something

0:38:310:38:35

that looks remarkably like antigravity.

0:38:350:38:40

There are phenomena out there associated with gravity

0:38:400:38:43

that have led us to rethink a lot about our universe.

0:38:430:38:47

If you look at distant galaxies,

0:38:470:38:49

they're moving away from us as we expect

0:38:490:38:51

because the universe began with this big bang

0:38:510:38:53

and everything's being thrown outwards,

0:38:530:38:56

but one would expect that the gravity of everything

0:38:560:38:59

would eventually start slowing that down.

0:38:590:39:03

Instead, what's actually been measured, it's a huge surprise,

0:39:030:39:06

is that the expansion of the universe is accelerating.

0:39:060:39:09

It's a puzzle that has stumped both theoretical physicists

0:39:110:39:14

like Clifford Johnson

0:39:140:39:17

and cosmologists like Tamara Davis,

0:39:170:39:21

because gravity seems to be doing

0:39:210:39:23

the one thing we always assumed it couldn't.

0:39:230:39:25

Gravity appears to be pushing.

0:39:290:39:31

Something's accelerating the galaxies away from each other.

0:39:310:39:34

That's as strange as if I took this ball,

0:39:340:39:37

just gently threw it in the air

0:39:370:39:39

and watched it accelerate off into space.

0:39:390:39:41

Scientists call the force that is doing this pushing dark energy,

0:39:440:39:50

estimated to account for roughly 70% of the universe.

0:39:500:39:54

So dark energy has some sort of antigravity

0:39:560:39:59

and it pushes the galaxies apart.

0:39:590:40:01

The idea that the universe has some inherent form of antigravity

0:40:030:40:08

is tantalising.

0:40:080:40:10

If only we could get our hands on it.

0:40:100:40:12

The problem is no-one knows what this antigravity force actually is.

0:40:150:40:20

Only that it seems to originate from space itself.

0:40:210:40:24

Although we think of space as this emptiness, the absence of stuff,

0:40:260:40:30

it actually isn't.

0:40:300:40:31

There is something that's intrinsic to the nature of space that

0:40:310:40:35

imparted an energy.

0:40:350:40:37

And one of the big mysteries is where has that energy come from?

0:40:390:40:43

A number of scientists think the answer to this big question

0:40:470:40:50

could lie-in the very small, the very, very, very small world

0:40:500:40:57

of subatomic particles. Quantum physics.

0:40:570:41:01

According to current quantum theory,

0:41:040:41:06

particles can spontaneously appear from nowhere.

0:41:060:41:09

Apparently they just pop into existence in the vacuum of space.

0:41:100:41:14

Matter and antimatter,

0:41:170:41:21

which because they are opposites cancel each other out in an instant.

0:41:210:41:25

The lifetime is 1,000th

0:41:260:41:29

of one billionth of one billionth of a second.

0:41:290:41:32

We are now in an ocean of particle-antiparticle pairs

0:41:340:41:40

permanently appearing and disappearing.

0:41:400:41:44

Dr Dragan Hajdukovic thinks something else happens to these

0:41:440:41:48

particles to produce an antigravity effect.

0:41:480:41:52

For the briefest moment of their existence,

0:41:580:42:00

these particles can be polarised like iron filings.

0:42:000:42:05

The trouble is to get it in a random orientation.

0:42:050:42:09

If there is a magnetic field, the random orientation will change. Yes.

0:42:090:42:16

According to Dragan, in the same way iron filings respond to a magnet...

0:42:190:42:24

..pairs of quantum particles respond to mass...

0:42:270:42:30

..with matter and antimatter pairs briefly orienting themselves

0:42:320:42:35

in relation to that mass.

0:42:350:42:37

Matter is attracted to the positive mass of a planet or a star

0:42:390:42:43

while antimatter is repelled by it.

0:42:430:42:46

Dragan believes this creates a halo of antigravity dark energy

0:42:490:42:53

around every mass in the universe.

0:42:530:42:55

All these haloes together has negative pressure,

0:42:570:43:01

what is exactly what we need

0:43:010:43:04

in cosmological equations to produce the accelerated

0:43:040:43:09

expansion of the universe.

0:43:090:43:11

It means that there are both positive

0:43:130:43:16

and negative rotational charges.

0:43:160:43:19

So far, we know that gravity is an attraction.

0:43:190:43:23

It may be that gravity is also a repulsion but not between matter

0:43:230:43:30

and matter but between matter and antimatter.

0:43:300:43:33

Dragan's theory that the key to antigravity

0:43:370:43:40

lies in antimatter is actually going to be tested...

0:43:400:43:44

..here in the world's biggest physics lab at CERN in Switzerland.

0:43:470:43:52

Not in the famous Large Hadron Collider,

0:43:550:43:59

but in the improbably named Antimatter Factory...

0:43:590:44:02

..at its Alpha experiment.

0:44:040:44:06

A team led by Jeffrey Hangst is building a machine that,

0:44:100:44:13

in a couple of years, will answer one of the biggest questions

0:44:130:44:16

in gravity research.

0:44:160:44:17

Does antimatter fall down or up?

0:44:190:44:22

The first step is to make antimatter particles of hydrogen.

0:44:250:44:31

We start here with this beamline.

0:44:310:44:33

That provides the nucleus of the antihydrogen atom, the antiprotons.

0:44:330:44:38

They come through here at a reasonably high energy

0:44:380:44:40

and get stopped inside this magnet which is where the actual

0:44:400:44:45

antihydrogen will be formed and trapped.

0:44:450:44:47

The next step will be to test how antimatter reacts

0:44:500:44:54

to the Earth's gravity.

0:44:540:44:55

OK, so this machine can trap and release antihydrogen

0:44:570:45:00

but it's not ideal for gravity.

0:45:000:45:02

What we want to do now is take a machine like this

0:45:020:45:05

and turn it on its head so we can actually see

0:45:050:45:08

the freefall of the antimatter that is released.

0:45:080:45:12

If Dragan is right then the antihydrogen will fall up

0:45:120:45:17

and somebody wins a Nobel Prize,

0:45:170:45:19

that's for sure, and we have to rewrite a lot of textbooks.

0:45:190:45:22

Hi, Dragan. Welcome. Come on in. Let's take a look at this machine.

0:45:240:45:29

Alpha is part of CERN's ongoing exploration into the nature

0:45:290:45:33

of matter and gravity.

0:45:330:45:35

Right now, what we are doing is we're routinely

0:45:350:45:37

trapping antihydrogen.

0:45:370:45:39

But for Dragan Hajdukovic, it will be made or break.

0:45:390:45:42

If he is right, creating antigravity on Earth

0:45:440:45:47

is at least a theoretical possibility.

0:45:470:45:50

One of the big theoretical objections to gravity control was

0:46:000:46:04

always that, unlike electromagnetism,

0:46:040:46:07

gravity had no negative form.

0:46:070:46:09

Yet evidence from the cosmos seems to suggest that negative gravity

0:46:110:46:16

does exist.

0:46:160:46:17

To bring it down to Earth, however,

0:46:190:46:21

seems to require some form of negative entity.

0:46:210:46:24

Dragan Hajdukovic thinks it could be antimatter.

0:46:270:46:30

Whereas Dr Martin Tajmar believes the best option would be to use

0:46:380:46:42

negative mass.

0:46:420:46:44

So let's imagine something that we can all imagine.

0:46:440:46:47

Let's say we have positive mass.

0:46:470:46:49

Positive mass means if I'm pushing

0:46:500:46:53

positive mass, it always accelerates in the same

0:46:530:46:56

direction as I am pushing.

0:46:560:46:57

Let's imagine something magical.

0:46:590:47:01

Let's imagine we have positive

0:47:010:47:04

and we have negative mass.

0:47:040:47:06

They will attract each other.

0:47:060:47:08

Now, the positive mass is attracted here

0:47:080:47:11

and it accelerates in the very same direction.

0:47:110:47:13

The negative is attracted over there,

0:47:130:47:16

but because it is negative mass, it accelerates over there.

0:47:160:47:19

So they both would start to accelerate in one direction,

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the direction of the negative mass.

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According to Martin, negative mass is the perfect way to create

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the ultimate gravity propulsion device -

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a warp drive.

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Imagine the positive and negative mass.

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That together creates a self accelerating structure.

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We can make a spacecraft with that, that can get any speed we want.

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Now, if this is all sounding a tiny bit speculative,

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Martin believes there is experimental evidence to back it up.

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The principle of self acceleration has actually already been

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demonstrated in the lab.

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Here you see that positive and negative light particles

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are coming together

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and when they come together, they always move,

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they self accelerate towards the negative position.

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That's an optical warp drive.

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It demonstrates that self acceleration is possible.

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Is it impossible to go to the next star? I don't think so.

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Impossible means it's not possible now.

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We just have to invent the magic trick.

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For Martin, the concept of negative mass is more than just

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a clever theory.

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It's the key to conquering gravity.

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But even if negative mass could be manufactured and harnessed to

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power a warp drive, many scientists think it would be

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impossible to use...

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..because of Einstein's theory of gravity.

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From Einstein's perspective, a mass actually distorts

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the fabric of space and time or space-time as it is called.

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That distortion is rather like a well.

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So here's another object that is moving nearby

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our mass that has bent space time

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and as it goes past,

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it bends towards the massive object.

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But a negative mass would be,

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in our analogy here, something like

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a mound instead of a depression

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and then you run into problems.

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The problem, according to Einstein, is that using a negative mass

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would mean inverting space-time,

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effectively turning the fabric of the universe inside out.

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And what you end up with is something that is called

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a runaway problem.

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You have physics that is just running out of control.

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It'll accelerate away arbitrarily with zero cost of energy

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and, if that were really happening anywhere in the universe,

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we'd see it spectacularly becoming an unstable situation.

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That's been proposed by other people

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as an actual solution to the problem.

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That's hilarious.

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If Clifford Johnson and other theoretical physicists are right,

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antigravity propulsion will remain an unworkable dream.

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It seems the laws of physics simply don't allow it.

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At least, not as we understand those laws today.

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Because, just as Galileo gave way to Newton

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and Newton gave way to Einstein,

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theories do change.

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And, in the meantime...

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well, the engineers get on with doing what engineers do -

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build new kinds of propulsion.

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Today, that includes NASA.

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At the Glenn Research Laboratory in Ohio,

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work is underway to produce new forms of space engine...

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..ones that really could take us where rockets can't -

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beyond our solar system.

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What we have here is a high-powered ion thruster

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and the way it produces thrust is ions are created inside this ring

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and then we establish electrostatic potential

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that accelerates these ions out

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and produces large velocities

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and what that does is it gives us very efficient production of thrust.

0:52:010:52:05

This is an ion thruster under test

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putting out a constant stream of charged particles.

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It's less powerful than a rocket

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but capable of accelerating a spacecraft

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almost indefinitely.

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These systems are ideal for in space.

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You know, we operate them purely in space because it's very gentle.

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You know, the thrust level is low

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but, over time, you can develop much higher velocities

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than you can with chemical rockets.

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NASA's focus is on space propulsion

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beyond the Earth's gravitation.

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Yet there is a propulsion concept

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that aims to revolutionise all of aerospace,

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resurrected from the days of project Greenglow.

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It's Roger Shawyer's microwave thruster,

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the EmDrive.

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Ten years ago,

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it was unproven technology.

0:53:050:53:08

This is a newer, bigger model under test.

0:53:080:53:11

Balanced on a pivot,

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Roger claims it is moving

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under its own steam.

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The thrust is coming out in this direction

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and it is pushing the whole rig in a counterclockwise direction.

0:53:230:53:28

It's moving 100kg of mass exactly as it would

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if it was a satellite in weightless conditions.

0:53:330:53:36

According to Roger,

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this model generates 9g of thrust,

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equivalent to NASA's ion thruster,

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but he hopes to make an EmDrive capable of generating

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a thrust of nine tonnes.

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Nine tonnes will be used to lift and accelerate vertically

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any air vehicle we wish.

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A true revolution.

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EmDrive is still at the concept stage,

0:54:050:54:08

but, if it turns out it really does work,

0:54:080:54:11

no-one wants to miss out on its potential.

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In the United States, a number of corporations and government agencies

0:54:240:54:28

have recently sat up and taken notice,

0:54:280:54:31

led by this man.

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Colonel Coyote Smith is the former head of Dream Works.

0:54:350:54:39

Not the movie company

0:54:400:54:41

but something even more powerful -

0:54:410:54:44

a future concepts department

0:54:440:54:46

in the Pentagon's National Security Space Office.

0:54:460:54:49

The potential is so great,

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if I did not bring this to the attention

0:54:520:54:54

of the scientific community inside the US

0:54:540:54:56

that works inside space programme,

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oh, I would have been fired.

0:54:580:55:00

That's just absolutely the type of technology

0:55:000:55:03

that we have to track down,

0:55:030:55:04

these revolutionary breakthroughs.

0:55:040:55:06

Now, all the physicists disclaimed it

0:55:060:55:10

but the ironic thing is, when I took it to the engineering community,

0:55:100:55:13

they didn't care why it worked, they were just interested that it worked.

0:55:130:55:16

Ten years ago, Project Greenglow ended

0:55:200:55:23

and Ron Evans thought official gravity research had ended with it.

0:55:230:55:27

But today he's been invited to witness

0:55:290:55:31

a unique gravitational breakthrough.

0:55:310:55:34

When Ron first began his gravity research,

0:55:370:55:40

it started with a question -

0:55:400:55:42

could gravity be used to detect aircraft

0:55:420:55:46

that were invisible to radar?

0:55:460:55:48

In the 1980s, our complete inability to work with gravity

0:55:490:55:52

made it impossible.

0:55:520:55:54

But today Ron is meeting someone who says he's done it.

0:55:560:56:00

This time, there are no covert meetings.

0:56:010:56:04

He's going inside the Ministry of Defence research laboratory

0:56:040:56:07

at Porton Down.

0:56:070:56:09

Ron, good morning. Welcome to the Defence Science and Technology.

0:56:090:56:13

Neil Stansfield heads a department here

0:56:130:56:15

that looks at what they call disruptive technology.

0:56:150:56:19

And they have taken a potential step on the road to gravity control

0:56:220:56:27

using quantum engineering.

0:56:270:56:29

So, what we have here is our quantum gravity gradiometer.

0:56:300:56:34

It's a small system.

0:56:340:56:36

At the heart of the device, we have a vacuum chamber.

0:56:360:56:39

The sensor uses lasers to freeze a cloud of atoms.

0:56:390:56:43

This cloud responds to disturbance in the Earth's gravitational field

0:56:440:56:49

caused by moving mass.

0:56:490:56:52

The atoms, they're sensitive enough to detect the mass of my body

0:56:520:56:55

at a range of about one metre.

0:56:550:56:57

-So your gravitational field is affecting this device.

-Yes.

0:56:570:57:00

This is the first time Ron has seen anyone actively using gravity.

0:57:020:57:06

To me, this is amazing technology.

0:57:080:57:10

Getting into the quantum, that's really allowing us to do things

0:57:100:57:13

that were just unbelievable 30 years ago.

0:57:130:57:16

Yes, some people use the phrase, "They break the laws of physics."

0:57:160:57:19

I prefer to say they break the laws of physics

0:57:190:57:21

as we understand them today.

0:57:210:57:23

100 years ago, we didn't understand the quantum physics.

0:57:230:57:26

The idea of being able to measure changes in gravity,

0:57:260:57:29

-science fiction, could never happen. Today, we can.

-Yes.

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And possibly even gravitational propulsion

0:57:330:57:36

might be a possibility in the future.

0:57:360:57:38

It may be. Yeah.

0:57:380:57:40

I have ideas.

0:57:400:57:42

It could be that we've got something.

0:57:420:57:44

Certainly, I see this as a start.

0:57:440:57:47

There's no doubt in my mind the UK is really at the forefront of this.

0:57:470:57:50

Ron Evans's mission to control gravity began here,

0:57:590:58:03

in a cold, wet corner of Lancashire

0:58:030:58:06

where people go to live their dreams,

0:58:060:58:10

where no-one ever worried about the word impossible.

0:58:100:58:13

For Ron Evans,

0:58:170:58:19

gravity control is just something we haven't learned to do...

0:58:190:58:23

yet.

0:58:230:58:25

I'm sure we will one day.

0:58:250:58:26

It's just a matter of time.

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