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My name's Bruce Parry. I've been travelling to some of the world's most remote places, | 0:00:04 | 0:00:08 | |
to see how people there live | 0:00:08 | 0:00:10 | |
and how they're adjusting to a rapidly changing world. | 0:00:10 | 0:00:14 | |
I believe there's only one way to really understand another culture, | 0:00:15 | 0:00:19 | |
and that's to experience it first hand. | 0:00:19 | 0:00:22 | |
To become, for a short while, one of the tribe. | 0:00:22 | 0:00:26 | |
I'm in the Malaysian state of Sarawak, in Borneo, | 0:00:35 | 0:00:39 | |
the third largest island in the world. | 0:00:39 | 0:00:42 | |
Rich in animal and plant life, this vast wilderness | 0:00:42 | 0:00:46 | |
is also the ancestral home of Borneo's nomadic forest people, the Penan. | 0:00:46 | 0:00:52 | |
It's always been a dream of mine to spend time with these hunter-gatherers, | 0:00:54 | 0:00:58 | |
to understand their intimate relationship with the forest around them. | 0:00:58 | 0:01:02 | |
Yah! | 0:01:02 | 0:01:04 | |
I think you have to grow up with the Penan to be able to hunt something like this. | 0:01:04 | 0:01:09 | |
But this is a journey that takes me by surprise. | 0:01:12 | 0:01:15 | |
And from these few people, in this fast-changing landscape, | 0:01:15 | 0:01:20 | |
I will hear a voice so clear, so impassioned | 0:01:20 | 0:01:25 | |
that it cannot be ignored. | 0:01:25 | 0:01:28 | |
I have made many journeys to Borneo and have developed a deep affection for its people. | 0:01:38 | 0:01:44 | |
But now, at last, I have a chance to live with the guardians of its great forests. | 0:01:44 | 0:01:51 | |
I'm in Sarawak, heading into the heart of Borneo, | 0:02:02 | 0:02:07 | |
and hopefully I'm gonna find one of the last enclaves | 0:02:07 | 0:02:11 | |
of truly pristine tropical forests found left in this vast island. | 0:02:11 | 0:02:16 | |
And inside that, holed up, are maybe two or three hundred of the last of the Penan people | 0:02:16 | 0:02:22 | |
who are still living a traditional nomadic lifestyle. | 0:02:22 | 0:02:27 | |
The only trouble with that is, that all around that pocket of land | 0:02:27 | 0:02:30 | |
are all the bulldozers and the loggers waiting to get in. | 0:02:30 | 0:02:34 | |
With so much money at stake, the last thing the loggers want is me, | 0:02:34 | 0:02:39 | |
in there, telling the Penan story. | 0:02:39 | 0:02:41 | |
Borneo lies to the east of Thailand and Malaysia, | 0:02:46 | 0:02:49 | |
and I'm in the Malaysian state of Sarawak on the north western coast. | 0:02:49 | 0:02:54 | |
Once covered with pristine forest, about two-thirds of the big trees | 0:02:54 | 0:02:58 | |
have been logged in the past 40 years, | 0:02:58 | 0:03:01 | |
leaving a few scattered groups of nomadic Penan | 0:03:01 | 0:03:04 | |
struggling to survive in the damaged and degraded forest. | 0:03:04 | 0:03:09 | |
The Sarawak government is hugely sensitive | 0:03:16 | 0:03:19 | |
about its policy on logging and the impact on the forest people. | 0:03:19 | 0:03:23 | |
Film crews are almost always refused permission to film the Penan, | 0:03:23 | 0:03:27 | |
so I've had to travel undercover to our rendezvous. | 0:03:27 | 0:03:31 | |
My God, that's it. | 0:03:40 | 0:03:42 | |
I can just make out a fire through there. | 0:03:42 | 0:03:45 | |
We've just literally left the vehicle five minutes before | 0:03:45 | 0:03:48 | |
and it's under the cover of night, which was all part of the plan | 0:03:48 | 0:03:51 | |
as we didn't want anyone to know where we were going. | 0:03:51 | 0:03:54 | |
And then a couple of people came out to help us with our gear | 0:03:54 | 0:03:58 | |
and they're just leading us now to, I think, what is a Penan sort of, er, temporary settlement. | 0:03:58 | 0:04:03 | |
Wow! | 0:04:06 | 0:04:08 | |
SPEAKS LOCAL DIALECT | 0:04:08 | 0:04:09 | |
Hello there, how are you? | 0:04:15 | 0:04:17 | |
This group has agreed to let me stay with them and film them without official permission. | 0:04:43 | 0:04:49 | |
They want to tell their story whatever the risk. | 0:04:49 | 0:04:51 | |
Yet within hours of arriving my cover seemed blown. | 0:04:51 | 0:04:56 | |
Yeah, yeah, that's cool. | 0:04:56 | 0:04:58 | |
God, that was a bit of excitement I wasn't expecting. | 0:05:12 | 0:05:15 | |
I was just sitting in the village minding my own business, not doing much at all, | 0:05:15 | 0:05:20 | |
when suddenly a couple of the kids came up and grabbed my hand | 0:05:20 | 0:05:23 | |
and told me to get out quick as I could. | 0:05:23 | 0:05:25 | |
Just as they were ushering me outside the little settlement area, | 0:05:25 | 0:05:30 | |
I could just make out a group of people walking towards the encampment. | 0:05:30 | 0:05:35 | |
I've no idea who they were. | 0:05:35 | 0:05:37 | |
I've been told it's OK to come back into the village after that little moment of excitement, | 0:05:42 | 0:05:48 | |
but I still quite don't know yet what it was that sent us running. | 0:05:48 | 0:05:52 | |
Hi, Arau. Who was it, um, who was it that just came? | 0:05:52 | 0:05:58 | |
With everyone feeling on edge, a meeting is called by head man, Jeffrey. | 0:06:45 | 0:06:50 | |
That's it, we're off to a new camp. | 0:07:45 | 0:07:47 | |
Dogs, monkeys, chickens, pigs, squirrels, everything, the whole family, we're all going. | 0:07:48 | 0:07:54 | |
OK, I think we're going to stay here. | 0:08:14 | 0:08:17 | |
For the next month, I'll be living with Arau and Tapi, | 0:08:55 | 0:09:00 | |
but first we have to build our home together. | 0:09:00 | 0:09:03 | |
When it comes to building a house like this, is there a specific job | 0:09:04 | 0:09:08 | |
for the men and a specific job the women, or is it all the same? | 0:09:08 | 0:09:11 | |
Of the 10,000 Penan people it's estimated that | 0:09:46 | 0:09:48 | |
only 200 of the eastern Penan are still nomadic hunter-gatherers. | 0:09:48 | 0:09:53 | |
Each small band is made up of parents and their children and rarely numbers more than 40. | 0:09:53 | 0:10:00 | |
Nomadic bands roam throughout a territory of less than 100 square miles, | 0:10:01 | 0:10:06 | |
moving home every few weeks when game and fruit | 0:10:06 | 0:10:09 | |
become scarce and the camp too dirty. | 0:10:09 | 0:10:12 | |
They trade meat and other forest products | 0:10:14 | 0:10:17 | |
for pans, knives and tarpaulins. | 0:10:17 | 0:10:20 | |
And this is Arau, my host, and Tapi. | 0:10:22 | 0:10:28 | |
And you, you're my new friend as well, aren't you? | 0:10:28 | 0:10:32 | |
Hey? | 0:10:32 | 0:10:34 | |
We're going to become chums. | 0:10:34 | 0:10:36 | |
Fantastic, thank you. | 0:11:11 | 0:11:13 | |
So Tapi and Arau, how... So you mind me asking? | 0:11:13 | 0:11:17 | |
How, how did you meet? | 0:11:17 | 0:11:18 | |
How did you get together? | 0:11:18 | 0:11:20 | |
So Tapi, er, what, er, what first attracted you | 0:11:47 | 0:11:50 | |
to your very, very good-looking husband here? | 0:11:50 | 0:11:53 | |
What was the first thing that you saw? | 0:11:53 | 0:11:55 | |
As hunter-gatherers, the Penan are as comfortable collecting fruit, | 0:12:53 | 0:12:57 | |
30 foot up in the canopy, as they are on the ground. | 0:12:57 | 0:13:02 | |
Always opportunistic, Arau and Tapi have found us breakfast | 0:13:02 | 0:13:05 | |
on our way to harvest the giant sago palm. | 0:13:05 | 0:13:09 | |
This is just one of the nicest jungle fruits I know. | 0:13:09 | 0:13:12 | |
It's a bit like a lychee I suppose, it's so sweet, so succulent. | 0:13:12 | 0:13:17 | |
Aahh. Really good! | 0:13:18 | 0:13:22 | |
It just really hits the spot. | 0:13:22 | 0:13:24 | |
The sago palm traditionally supplies all the carbohydrate in the Penan diet. | 0:13:45 | 0:13:50 | |
This monster palm can grow to over 40 feet, | 0:13:50 | 0:13:54 | |
and it's the pithy core that the Penan split and extract to produce sago flour. | 0:13:54 | 0:13:59 | |
Once cut and trimmed, | 0:14:13 | 0:14:15 | |
we're going to have to heft the sago trunks down the mountainside | 0:14:15 | 0:14:18 | |
in search of water to process them. | 0:14:18 | 0:14:20 | |
If I was doing this, no doubt I'd break my toe within seconds! | 0:14:54 | 0:14:58 | |
Not only balance but co-ordination, strength... | 0:15:05 | 0:15:09 | |
little bit of daredevil. Make sure I don't hit my toes. | 0:15:13 | 0:15:17 | |
OK. | 0:15:17 | 0:15:19 | |
It's ingenious, really. | 0:15:38 | 0:15:40 | |
After mushing with her feet, | 0:15:40 | 0:15:41 | |
all of the inner pith goes through the mat | 0:15:41 | 0:15:46 | |
and then is collected on this other mat, | 0:15:46 | 0:15:49 | |
which is waterproof. | 0:15:49 | 0:15:50 | |
This off-white, starchy paste | 0:15:54 | 0:15:58 | |
is the food, and that there is sago. | 0:15:58 | 0:16:02 | |
I've just been told some of the guys have come back | 0:16:39 | 0:16:42 | |
from a day's hunting and they've caught a wild boar. | 0:16:42 | 0:16:45 | |
God, they certainly have, as well! | 0:16:46 | 0:16:49 | |
Oh, my God. | 0:16:49 | 0:16:51 | |
By the looks of it, two wild boar. | 0:16:55 | 0:16:57 | |
My God, the weight of that! | 0:17:00 | 0:17:01 | |
Berat! | 0:17:02 | 0:17:03 | |
And that's the back end of one, | 0:17:07 | 0:17:08 | |
and that's a littler one. | 0:17:10 | 0:17:12 | |
A mother and child, by the looks of it. | 0:17:13 | 0:17:17 | |
Fantastic. | 0:17:17 | 0:17:18 | |
Now that the meat has been butchered, | 0:18:05 | 0:18:07 | |
how is it divided amongst the families? | 0:18:07 | 0:18:10 | |
OK, and how is it decided who gets how much? | 0:18:17 | 0:18:19 | |
Fantastic. | 0:18:26 | 0:18:27 | |
It is really interesting to watch this. | 0:18:40 | 0:18:42 | |
I've seen food sharing like this many times, | 0:18:42 | 0:18:45 | |
but never quite so meticulous. | 0:18:45 | 0:18:47 | |
It really is, it's painstaking. | 0:18:47 | 0:18:49 | |
And although this is a relative time of plenty, | 0:18:49 | 0:18:52 | |
you can imagine that that's been borne out from those periods of time | 0:18:52 | 0:18:55 | |
when perhaps people have been watching every morsel going in every direction. | 0:18:55 | 0:19:00 | |
And it makes sense. | 0:19:00 | 0:19:02 | |
Fantastic. Oh, my God! | 0:19:09 | 0:19:11 | |
So, look at that. | 0:19:11 | 0:19:12 | |
Even though, really, this is for the crew, | 0:19:12 | 0:19:16 | |
even though we're essentially outsiders and just visiting, | 0:19:16 | 0:19:19 | |
still we've been included in the sharing process. | 0:19:19 | 0:19:22 | |
Fantastic, get a load of this! | 0:19:22 | 0:19:25 | |
One of the first things that I noticed about living with the Penan | 0:19:41 | 0:19:45 | |
is that every aspect of social life is transparent. | 0:19:45 | 0:19:50 | |
There are no doors or walls that any of these people hide behind. | 0:19:50 | 0:19:54 | |
Everything that goes on here is in view of everyone else. | 0:19:54 | 0:20:00 | |
Over the past 40 years, | 0:20:09 | 0:20:11 | |
logging has spread deep into Sarawak's primary forest. | 0:20:11 | 0:20:15 | |
Once the canopy is removed, a dense, impenetrable secondary forest quickly takes over. | 0:20:15 | 0:20:22 | |
Throughout their territory, there's a criss-cross of old roads where nothing has grown for decades. | 0:20:22 | 0:20:29 | |
I didn't realise we were going to come across this logging path today, | 0:21:12 | 0:21:16 | |
I thought we were just out looking for sago. | 0:21:16 | 0:21:19 | |
We've just spotted one over there, and this area would normally be full of the stuff. | 0:21:19 | 0:21:23 | |
But it's all disappeared, and it's not because the sago's being logged | 0:21:23 | 0:21:27 | |
but it's just things like these roads, | 0:21:27 | 0:21:29 | |
the fact that 100 yards either side of this is trashed. | 0:21:29 | 0:21:32 | |
Everywhere they go in and do their selective felling | 0:21:32 | 0:21:34 | |
they're coming out and they're just ruining the surroundings. | 0:21:34 | 0:21:38 | |
And so, for these people, though to me it doesn't look any different, | 0:21:38 | 0:21:41 | |
for them that's the loss of their staple, | 0:21:41 | 0:21:43 | |
which is why they're having such a hard time of it. | 0:21:43 | 0:21:46 | |
God! | 0:21:46 | 0:21:48 | |
As we headed back to the camp, we're caught in a sudden downpour. | 0:21:53 | 0:21:57 | |
Arau is keen to show me another effect of the loss of trees and the roots that bind the soil. | 0:22:06 | 0:22:12 | |
I think he's trying to tell me something about this stream here. | 0:22:16 | 0:22:20 | |
The Malaysian state of Sarawak has licensed 70% of the forest for logging. | 0:23:08 | 0:23:13 | |
They say it's crucial for the country's development | 0:23:13 | 0:23:16 | |
and insist they use sustainable methods. | 0:23:16 | 0:23:18 | |
Yet the loggers return again and again to remove even the smallest trees. | 0:23:18 | 0:23:23 | |
Finally the land is stripped and burned, | 0:23:23 | 0:23:26 | |
ready for acacia wood and palm oil plantations. | 0:23:26 | 0:23:31 | |
Palm oil is used in everything from biscuits to shampoo to biofuel. | 0:23:31 | 0:23:36 | |
Malaysia now produces 50% of the world's supply, and it's our | 0:23:36 | 0:23:41 | |
demand for these products which is ultimately fuelling this business. | 0:23:41 | 0:23:46 | |
In this endless sea of plantations, little survives, | 0:23:48 | 0:23:52 | |
making it a relative desert for wildlife and the forest people. | 0:23:52 | 0:23:56 | |
The Penan still hunt using traditional blowpipes, | 0:24:06 | 0:24:09 | |
even though some men today have access to shotguns. | 0:24:09 | 0:24:12 | |
The blowpipe is ideally suited to shooting wildlife high in the canopy. | 0:24:12 | 0:24:17 | |
But to make the tiny darts effective, | 0:24:19 | 0:24:22 | |
Arau needs to collect an extremely powerful poison. | 0:24:22 | 0:24:25 | |
Really? My God, that is quite extraordinary. | 0:24:59 | 0:25:03 | |
It seems that Arau is going to climb this adjacent tree | 0:25:05 | 0:25:09 | |
and then he's gonna tap the latex, the sap of the poison tree, | 0:25:09 | 0:25:14 | |
which is what he needs to collect for his poison darts. | 0:25:14 | 0:25:16 | |
I was just thinking that it's lucky that I'm not climbing the poison tree itself, | 0:25:16 | 0:25:21 | |
because if I was gonna follow him, | 0:25:21 | 0:25:22 | |
the amount of cuts I've got on my hands, | 0:25:22 | 0:25:25 | |
I'd be dead before I got to the top! | 0:25:25 | 0:25:28 | |
I can see the milky sap coming out of the cut he's made already. | 0:26:06 | 0:26:12 | |
All of the sap is falling into the container. | 0:26:12 | 0:26:16 | |
I'm 50 foot off the ground and frankly just about clinging on, | 0:26:19 | 0:26:24 | |
but Arau here is moving around so agilely. | 0:26:24 | 0:26:27 | |
It just goes to show, once again, just how in tune | 0:26:27 | 0:26:33 | |
he and the whole community are with this environment. | 0:26:33 | 0:26:36 | |
It's about 6:30 in the morning and I'm off hunting with the guys. | 0:27:45 | 0:27:51 | |
No dogs, and just blowpipes. | 0:27:51 | 0:27:53 | |
(My God!) | 0:28:40 | 0:28:41 | |
(That is such skill!) | 0:28:41 | 0:28:42 | |
These guys are pretty skilful with their darts. | 0:29:09 | 0:29:13 | |
It seems amazing. | 0:29:35 | 0:29:37 | |
These guys are out all day | 0:29:37 | 0:29:39 | |
just trying to get the smallest, smallest morsel of prey. | 0:29:39 | 0:29:42 | |
As the primary forest gives way to the dense secondary forest, | 0:29:56 | 0:30:00 | |
hunting with long blowpipes has become increasingly difficult. | 0:30:00 | 0:30:06 | |
I wondered if Arau has considered | 0:30:09 | 0:30:11 | |
other ways of providing meat for the group. | 0:30:11 | 0:30:16 | |
I hope it never happens, but one day if the Penan lost the forest | 0:30:16 | 0:30:20 | |
and they had to settle into one place and not be nomadic, | 0:30:20 | 0:30:25 | |
how would you feel about having domestic animals, goats and chicken | 0:30:25 | 0:30:30 | |
and such like, that you would have to rear up and then eat later? | 0:30:30 | 0:30:34 | |
Does it not cross your mind that this chicken might taste nice?! | 0:30:57 | 0:31:02 | |
I thought I was going to get an early night, | 0:31:46 | 0:31:49 | |
but there's about ten of us out. | 0:31:49 | 0:31:51 | |
We've got blowpipes, we've got machetes and we've got torches. | 0:31:51 | 0:31:54 | |
And it's frogs we're after. | 0:31:54 | 0:31:56 | |
Two frogs. | 0:32:19 | 0:32:20 | |
All you've got to do, it's like lamping, | 0:32:20 | 0:32:23 | |
just get the eyes in the spotlight, | 0:32:23 | 0:32:26 | |
pull up behind it, knock it on the head, | 0:32:26 | 0:32:30 | |
frog for dinner. | 0:32:30 | 0:32:32 | |
That's a big one. | 0:32:38 | 0:32:39 | |
Yah! Bloody hell, man. | 0:32:43 | 0:32:46 | |
Why is it you're not killing them? What's that all about? | 0:32:54 | 0:32:57 | |
Not a good night to be a frog, really. | 0:33:23 | 0:33:25 | |
Thanks, Arau. | 0:33:25 | 0:33:27 | |
Finally I have one within my sights. | 0:33:29 | 0:33:31 | |
It's only weeny, let's see if I can do it. | 0:33:31 | 0:33:36 | |
There you go. Have you got it? | 0:33:47 | 0:33:50 | |
I'll let you do the gruesome bit. | 0:33:51 | 0:33:53 | |
Is there a lot of meat on this? | 0:33:56 | 0:34:00 | |
The legs. Show me. | 0:34:04 | 0:34:05 | |
One hour's work and about ten frogs, | 0:34:17 | 0:34:20 | |
any Parisian chef would be delighted. | 0:34:20 | 0:34:22 | |
Thanks. Let's go home. | 0:34:22 | 0:34:24 | |
The Penan derive almost all their needs from the forest. | 0:34:37 | 0:34:42 | |
Today we're off in search of one of the most valuable forest materials, rattan. | 0:34:42 | 0:34:48 | |
And these fine tendrils are absolutely lethal. | 0:35:17 | 0:35:21 | |
And there's no way out, you can't go forward, | 0:35:21 | 0:35:25 | |
you have to remove yourself by retreating into it. | 0:35:25 | 0:35:28 | |
Only with these guys now, who are pointing out to me | 0:36:01 | 0:36:05 | |
everywhere I look how it used to be like this, and now it's like that, | 0:36:05 | 0:36:09 | |
and how this has changed and that has changed, | 0:36:09 | 0:36:12 | |
that I'm seeing just how much effect | 0:36:12 | 0:36:14 | |
the logging is having on this habitat. | 0:36:14 | 0:36:17 | |
And finally, I think, they're beginning to open my senses. | 0:36:17 | 0:36:22 | |
As I spend more and more time here, | 0:36:31 | 0:36:35 | |
I'm beginning to develop real friendships. | 0:36:35 | 0:36:38 | |
I didn't realise it when I first moved in, | 0:36:40 | 0:36:43 | |
but it seems that Arau has been quite a lucky find for me. | 0:36:43 | 0:36:46 | |
He certainly is the hero around the community, everyone loves him. | 0:36:46 | 0:36:50 | |
He's really made my stay here truly wonderful. | 0:36:50 | 0:36:55 | |
All my life I've dreamt about meeting the original forest people of Borneo. | 0:37:18 | 0:37:24 | |
The sudden unannounced arrival of some old traditional-looking Penan | 0:37:24 | 0:37:28 | |
was like a visitation from the past. | 0:37:28 | 0:37:33 | |
And they had walked all day just to meet me. | 0:37:41 | 0:37:45 | |
I've been here a couple of weeks | 0:39:37 | 0:39:42 | |
and I've talked about this issue non-stop since I've been here. | 0:39:42 | 0:39:46 | |
And these people are so gentle and calm and tranquil, | 0:39:46 | 0:39:53 | |
and you get them on this subject | 0:39:53 | 0:39:54 | |
and they have so much energy and venom and anger and that comes out. | 0:39:54 | 0:40:01 | |
And you see this again and again, and you can't escape it. | 0:40:01 | 0:40:04 | |
And even though I've been hardened to this topic now for the last couple of weeks, | 0:40:04 | 0:40:11 | |
having these three people now arrive here has been like | 0:40:11 | 0:40:16 | |
an arrow through the heart, it's absolutely taken me sideways. | 0:40:16 | 0:40:19 | |
I've never been quite so hit by a subject before, I don't think. | 0:40:19 | 0:40:24 | |
It's just bringing tears to my eyes. | 0:40:24 | 0:40:28 | |
And...and the saddest thing of all | 0:40:28 | 0:40:31 | |
is that I absolutely have nothing at all to give them as an answer. | 0:40:31 | 0:40:37 | |
Koolin, Ohok and Malin decide to stay the night. | 0:40:46 | 0:40:50 | |
And they have stories to tell. | 0:40:50 | 0:40:52 | |
I've come to have a lesson in Penan language, but not words and not writing, but actually in signs. | 0:42:48 | 0:42:53 | |
It's fantastic, it really is. | 0:43:42 | 0:43:44 | |
Essentially this stick here is the message stick and it's pointing | 0:43:44 | 0:43:48 | |
in a direction that is the direction in which you must go. | 0:43:48 | 0:43:52 | |
And, because it has this stick here at the beginning, it means you must come. | 0:43:52 | 0:43:58 | |
This is an indication that you must come along. | 0:43:58 | 0:44:00 | |
And then this stick next to it, because it's a sharp pointy stick on its own, | 0:44:00 | 0:44:05 | |
it's like a...stick it up your arse, come on, you've got to come quickly. | 0:44:05 | 0:44:08 | |
But next, we have this scraping along the side here, which means | 0:44:08 | 0:44:13 | |
that actually it's a long, long, long way. | 0:44:13 | 0:44:16 | |
And then, as you come back down, | 0:44:16 | 0:44:18 | |
you've got three knots in a bit of bark, | 0:44:18 | 0:44:22 | |
which says that he has to be there in three days. | 0:44:22 | 0:44:26 | |
And this leaf here, which is wrapped and empty, stuck in the side, | 0:44:26 | 0:44:30 | |
is suggesting that he's going there without any food at all. | 0:44:30 | 0:44:34 | |
But the best bit of all, which to me just surmises everything I've learned about the Penan, | 0:44:34 | 0:44:39 | |
is this single stick here, which says, | 0:44:39 | 0:44:42 | |
even though there's an urgency, you must come quickly, it's a long way, | 0:44:42 | 0:44:46 | |
you must be there in three days, I'm going without any food, | 0:44:46 | 0:44:49 | |
but this stick here, it says, don't worry, because I'm in a good mood. | 0:44:49 | 0:44:53 | |
How amazing is that? | 0:44:53 | 0:44:55 | |
Malin and Koolin were keen, however, to show me one more important Penan sign. | 0:45:00 | 0:45:06 | |
No prizes for guessing what this is. | 0:46:31 | 0:46:33 | |
This is obviously where the loggers lived. Did you ever come here when they were actually living here? | 0:46:35 | 0:46:41 | |
There must be some people you came across that were decent people that you could communicate with. | 0:46:41 | 0:46:46 | |
Is this not the case? | 0:46:46 | 0:46:48 | |
The Sarawak government says the income from logging will provide development for the whole state, | 0:47:15 | 0:47:20 | |
including the Penan. | 0:47:20 | 0:47:23 | |
OK. Thanks, Jeffrey. | 0:48:04 | 0:48:06 | |
Wow. When it comes to their feeling, it's heartfelt, I know it is. | 0:48:06 | 0:48:12 | |
It's true, what these people are telling me is absolutely true | 0:48:12 | 0:48:16 | |
and they're devastated, angry and upset. | 0:48:16 | 0:48:19 | |
And I know them and I know that that's how they feel, and it's heartbreaking. | 0:48:19 | 0:48:23 | |
I didn't come here to make a rant or a political statement. | 0:48:31 | 0:48:35 | |
I came here to just tell their story. | 0:48:35 | 0:48:37 | |
But their story is about their issue. | 0:48:37 | 0:48:41 | |
Everything they say is about the loss of their forest. | 0:48:41 | 0:48:46 | |
Throughout my time with the Penan, I had become accustomed to | 0:48:53 | 0:48:57 | |
fighting my way through the dense scrub of the secondary forest. | 0:48:57 | 0:49:01 | |
Arau and Jeffrey, however, wanted to show me a last remnant | 0:49:01 | 0:49:06 | |
of the primary forest that once covered their entire territory. | 0:49:06 | 0:49:11 | |
This is a place easy to hunt in and rich in fruit trees. | 0:49:16 | 0:49:21 | |
Wow! I tell you what, honestly... | 0:50:02 | 0:50:05 | |
..it is different, it really is. | 0:50:06 | 0:50:09 | |
I've been so used to walking through green...wet green leaves flapping in my face | 0:50:10 | 0:50:16 | |
even on well-used paths, and here suddenly it's open. | 0:50:16 | 0:50:19 | |
Yes, there's lots of life, but it's not happening here, it's happening up there. | 0:50:19 | 0:50:25 | |
And here it's drier, it's cooler, | 0:50:25 | 0:50:27 | |
there's less sunlight and I can see, I can actually see a distance, | 0:50:27 | 0:50:33 | |
and that's just me after a month in the woods. | 0:50:33 | 0:50:36 | |
To these guys, who listen to everything, | 0:50:36 | 0:50:39 | |
it must be so different. | 0:50:39 | 0:50:40 | |
Until you've actually had meaningful interaction with people like the Penan here, | 0:51:22 | 0:51:27 | |
it's, I suppose, understandable to look down on them, | 0:51:27 | 0:51:32 | |
to see them as objects of pity, and certainly the Malaysian government | 0:51:32 | 0:51:37 | |
has said they require our pity and need to be settled. | 0:51:37 | 0:51:40 | |
And then, once they're settled, then we can give them health and education and infrastructure. | 0:51:40 | 0:51:46 | |
But the real problem here | 0:51:48 | 0:51:50 | |
is that nobody has actually bothered to ask the Penan what it is that THEY want. | 0:51:50 | 0:51:56 | |
I've been with you for four weeks now and it's nearly time for me to go, and you've taught me so much, | 0:51:57 | 0:52:03 | |
but one question that I've never asked is, if you had your way, | 0:52:03 | 0:52:06 | |
in the ideal world, what is it actually | 0:52:06 | 0:52:09 | |
that you really want for the future, more than anything else? | 0:52:09 | 0:52:13 | |
It's nearly, unfortunately, time for me to leave, but the securing of this meat here today | 0:54:01 | 0:54:06 | |
means that at least we can have a big party before I have to depart. | 0:54:06 | 0:54:10 | |
It's so nice, it's my last night, to have every face here all eating together. | 0:54:27 | 0:54:32 | |
It's really pleasant. | 0:54:32 | 0:54:35 | |
Many times, people have looked at me and asked me what it is | 0:54:38 | 0:54:42 | |
that I can do for you, and I have felt a grave responsibility... in that, | 0:54:42 | 0:54:48 | |
which is very difficult because, of course, I am not a politician. | 0:54:48 | 0:54:51 | |
But, at the same time, what I can do for you and what I promise I will do for you | 0:54:51 | 0:54:58 | |
is give you a voice around the world | 0:54:58 | 0:55:00 | |
and I promise that many people will listen to what you have to say. | 0:55:00 | 0:55:04 | |
And hopefully in the future this message will come back to the Sarawak government. | 0:55:04 | 0:55:10 | |
Anyone who truly listens to you and knows the full story will know that this forest is yours | 0:55:10 | 0:55:16 | |
and that you do have the right to be here, | 0:55:16 | 0:55:18 | |
and I hope that you maintain the forest and keep it as your own. | 0:55:18 | 0:55:22 | |
Thank you, my friend. Thank you so much. | 0:56:01 | 0:56:03 | |
Maria, stay good. | 0:56:05 | 0:56:07 | |
You guys, it's been really fun knowing you. | 0:56:07 | 0:56:10 | |
Good luck with your target practice, yeah? Hope that gets better. | 0:56:11 | 0:56:15 | |
I don't want to keep you hanging around. | 0:56:16 | 0:56:20 | |
Hey, good luck. | 0:56:21 | 0:56:23 | |
And you, thank you so much. | 0:56:25 | 0:56:28 | |
Jeffrey, what can I say? You taught me so much. Thank you so much. | 0:56:28 | 0:56:32 | |
You're an amazing leader and I've learnt a great deal from you, thank you. | 0:56:32 | 0:56:36 | |
And finally, my friend, you of all people have looked after me the most, | 0:56:36 | 0:56:41 | |
you've taught me the most, and I will always remember you. Thank you. | 0:56:41 | 0:56:45 | |
Thanks, fella. | 0:57:07 | 0:57:08 | |
What started out as a dream to live with the forest people of Borneo had become something else. | 0:57:36 | 0:57:42 | |
It had made me think deeply about my life and those I've met on my journeys. | 0:57:42 | 0:57:49 | |
As tribal people the world over become ever more marginalised, | 0:57:49 | 0:57:54 | |
it's simply not enough for me to stand by | 0:57:54 | 0:57:58 | |
and witness the destruction of their cultures. | 0:57:58 | 0:58:00 | |
I owe it to them, as I think we all do, to champion their right to live the way they want to. | 0:58:00 | 0:58:08 | |
If we fail, we will all be poorer for it. | 0:58:09 | 0:58:13 | |
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