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Hi, I'm Andrew Graham Dixon | 0:00:03 | 0:00:05 | |
and I'm an art historian. | 0:00:05 | 0:00:07 | |
These ancient roads are slightly bumpy. | 0:00:07 | 0:00:09 | |
And I'm Giorgio Locatelli and I'm a cook. | 0:00:11 | 0:00:14 | |
We've been all over Italy, | 0:00:15 | 0:00:17 | |
revealing her gastronomic and artistic treasures, | 0:00:17 | 0:00:21 | |
but now we've come to the beating heart of the country, Rome. | 0:00:21 | 0:00:25 | |
It's a 2,000 year old metropolis where past and present collide. | 0:00:29 | 0:00:34 | |
It's as unique for an art lover... | 0:00:34 | 0:00:37 | |
In the same moment he's also Christ on the cross. | 0:00:37 | 0:00:41 | |
..as it is for a food lover. | 0:00:42 | 0:00:44 | |
Today I'm going to cook you a dish that is really steep in history. | 0:00:44 | 0:00:47 | |
We will test traditional recipes beloved by the Romans. | 0:00:49 | 0:00:53 | |
-I'm not leaving this here. -He's not going to let me have any. | 0:00:53 | 0:00:55 | |
And we'll plunge our forks into the cultures that have shaped the city. | 0:00:55 | 0:00:59 | |
The Trevi Fountain, famous as Italian ice cream. | 0:00:59 | 0:01:03 | |
We'll explore Rome's greatest works of art and architecture. | 0:01:03 | 0:01:06 | |
Uno. Due. Tre. | 0:01:06 | 0:01:10 | |
-Full of light... -Incredible. | 0:01:10 | 0:01:12 | |
..but also, sometimes, darkness. | 0:01:15 | 0:01:18 | |
It's the voice of conscience. | 0:01:18 | 0:01:20 | |
I think it's a truthful voice. | 0:01:20 | 0:01:22 | |
I cannot imagine anything to do in life better than this. | 0:01:42 | 0:01:46 | |
And with you in the back, as well. | 0:01:47 | 0:01:49 | |
It's always been my belief that to understand Rome, | 0:01:51 | 0:01:53 | |
you must first understand the Roman people. | 0:01:53 | 0:01:56 | |
They've always been the driving force behind the city. | 0:01:58 | 0:02:01 | |
From ancient times, the Romans have acclaimed each new Emperor... | 0:02:04 | 0:02:08 | |
..roared their approval or disapproval of each new Pope | 0:02:11 | 0:02:15 | |
and they show no sign of stopping that. | 0:02:15 | 0:02:17 | |
They're always larger than life, | 0:02:19 | 0:02:22 | |
divided, opinionated, | 0:02:22 | 0:02:25 | |
passionate, unpredictable. | 0:02:25 | 0:02:27 | |
Rome might be Italy's centre of government... | 0:02:28 | 0:02:30 | |
..but no-one could be harder to govern than the Romans. | 0:02:31 | 0:02:35 | |
Our journey begins in the historic centre of Rome, | 0:02:42 | 0:02:46 | |
the politically charged Capitoline Hill. | 0:02:46 | 0:02:49 | |
The smallest and most important of | 0:02:49 | 0:02:51 | |
the seven hills of ancient Rome, | 0:02:51 | 0:02:53 | |
it was originally the site of one of the city's most sacred temples | 0:02:53 | 0:02:57 | |
and later became the seat of the Senate. | 0:02:57 | 0:02:59 | |
-Look at this. -Amazing. | 0:03:00 | 0:03:02 | |
Excuse me. | 0:03:02 | 0:03:03 | |
Caput Mundi. Here we are. | 0:03:03 | 0:03:06 | |
But it's empty. We have the whole square to ourselves. | 0:03:06 | 0:03:09 | |
That is unbelievable. | 0:03:09 | 0:03:11 | |
That's like having an opera performance just for you. | 0:03:11 | 0:03:13 | |
But it is like a piece of theatre. | 0:03:25 | 0:03:27 | |
-Yeah. -This is THE place. | 0:03:27 | 0:03:29 | |
Yeah, yeah, you're right. | 0:03:29 | 0:03:31 | |
So many things happened here. | 0:03:31 | 0:03:33 | |
Friends, Romans, lend me your ears. | 0:03:33 | 0:03:35 | |
After the death of Caesar, | 0:03:35 | 0:03:37 | |
Petrarch, he comes here to receive his laurel crown | 0:03:37 | 0:03:42 | |
and then Napoleon declares his short-lived rule over Italy. | 0:03:42 | 0:03:47 | |
Not very important. Don't talk about him. | 0:03:47 | 0:03:49 | |
But still, they always come here. | 0:03:49 | 0:03:51 | |
-This is the place. -Even in the Second World War, | 0:03:51 | 0:03:54 | |
General Clark really didn't feel like | 0:03:54 | 0:03:56 | |
he'd achieved anything until he arrived here. | 0:03:56 | 0:03:59 | |
Well, we talk about, often, Michelangelo the sculptor... | 0:03:59 | 0:04:02 | |
-Yeah. -..Michelangelo the painter, who created the Sistine Chapel... | 0:04:02 | 0:04:06 | |
-Yeah. -..but sometimes we forget, this is Michelangelo the architect, | 0:04:06 | 0:04:09 | |
and he creates this beautiful star pavement, | 0:04:09 | 0:04:13 | |
almost like this is the sun. | 0:04:13 | 0:04:15 | |
And at the centre of it all, | 0:04:15 | 0:04:17 | |
this great statue of Marcus Aurelius, | 0:04:17 | 0:04:20 | |
one of the most famous statues in the world. | 0:04:20 | 0:04:23 | |
This statue's stood here, really, for 2,000 years. | 0:04:23 | 0:04:26 | |
The very first equestrian statue. | 0:04:26 | 0:04:29 | |
And in Roman times this signified the status of the ruler, | 0:04:29 | 0:04:33 | |
that the Emperor, he is astride the horse, | 0:04:33 | 0:04:35 | |
just as he is, metaphorically, | 0:04:35 | 0:04:37 | |
he's in charge of his people. | 0:04:37 | 0:04:39 | |
There he is, the great philosopher emperor, | 0:04:40 | 0:04:44 | |
founder of modern mindfulness, | 0:04:44 | 0:04:46 | |
author of works on happiness. | 0:04:46 | 0:04:48 | |
Extraordinary man. | 0:04:48 | 0:04:50 | |
The only reason it survived was that Pope Paul III, | 0:04:50 | 0:04:54 | |
for whom Michelangelo redesigned this square during the Renaissance, | 0:04:54 | 0:04:57 | |
he actually believed that to be a representation of the very first | 0:04:57 | 0:05:01 | |
Christian emperor, Constantine. | 0:05:01 | 0:05:03 | |
-I see. -And that's why he allowed it to remain, | 0:05:03 | 0:05:06 | |
because all the Roman pagan monuments... | 0:05:06 | 0:05:09 | |
-All melted. -If they were made of bronze, they go. | 0:05:09 | 0:05:12 | |
So this thing only survives because of a mistake. | 0:05:12 | 0:05:14 | |
Fantastic. Thank God for that. | 0:05:14 | 0:05:16 | |
-One of the most famous statues in the world. -It's beautiful. | 0:05:16 | 0:05:19 | |
Look at the horse. | 0:05:19 | 0:05:21 | |
There's two Romes, always. | 0:05:21 | 0:05:22 | |
There's the Rome of the great and the powerful, | 0:05:22 | 0:05:24 | |
and there's the Rome of the people, the Rome of the mob. | 0:05:24 | 0:05:26 | |
And this place is where the two meet each other. | 0:05:26 | 0:05:30 | |
Andrew, come, I want to ask you something. | 0:05:30 | 0:05:32 | |
You know what that mean? | 0:05:32 | 0:05:34 | |
Senatus Populusque Romanus. | 0:05:34 | 0:05:38 | |
It's a central idea of Ancient Rome. | 0:05:38 | 0:05:41 | |
Those who rule, only rule with the collaboration of the people. | 0:05:41 | 0:05:43 | |
With the collaboration... of the people... | 0:05:43 | 0:05:46 | |
of Rome. That means a representation | 0:05:46 | 0:05:49 | |
of the mob, as we call it. | 0:05:49 | 0:05:52 | |
The modern world is built on this value, on this idea, | 0:05:52 | 0:05:57 | |
that the people are part of the government. | 0:05:57 | 0:06:00 | |
And, you know, this is so everywhere in Rome. | 0:06:00 | 0:06:04 | |
Look, the aqueduct, water, everybody, SPQR. | 0:06:04 | 0:06:09 | |
-It really is everywhere. -That's it. | 0:06:09 | 0:06:11 | |
It's pretty unique to see the power | 0:06:19 | 0:06:22 | |
of the people declared in every corner of their own city. | 0:06:22 | 0:06:25 | |
Thanks to that, | 0:06:25 | 0:06:27 | |
the Roman always maintain a strong sense of ownership over Rome, | 0:06:27 | 0:06:31 | |
throughout the Republic and Imperial eras. | 0:06:31 | 0:06:34 | |
But the Empire ended in 476 AD. | 0:06:37 | 0:06:41 | |
Over the following centuries it was replaced by rulers | 0:06:44 | 0:06:47 | |
more interested in exerting power over the people. | 0:06:47 | 0:06:50 | |
Fantastico. | 0:06:52 | 0:06:53 | |
By the eighth century Rome was the capital of the Papal States, | 0:06:57 | 0:07:01 | |
ruled by cardinals and popes. | 0:07:01 | 0:07:03 | |
These ambitious men of God loved nothing more | 0:07:06 | 0:07:08 | |
than to proclaim their own vast power with grandiose monuments. | 0:07:08 | 0:07:13 | |
But even they knew that they also had to please the people. | 0:07:13 | 0:07:17 | |
For me, the best, | 0:07:17 | 0:07:19 | |
most extravagant example of this Papal showmanship in all of Rome... | 0:07:19 | 0:07:23 | |
..is the Trevi Fountain. | 0:07:25 | 0:07:26 | |
Commissioned by Pope Clement XII, in the 18th century. | 0:07:33 | 0:07:37 | |
As famous as Italian ice cream, it looks like it's made of ice cream. | 0:07:37 | 0:07:41 | |
The Trevi Fountain. | 0:07:41 | 0:07:43 | |
It's so beautiful. | 0:07:43 | 0:07:46 | |
In the Roman times it's bread and circuses. | 0:07:46 | 0:07:48 | |
In the Papal times it's fountains. | 0:07:48 | 0:07:50 | |
That's how you really impress your people. | 0:07:50 | 0:07:53 | |
This is the culmination of a kind of centuries-long fountain competition. | 0:07:53 | 0:07:58 | |
Every Pope wants to put a great fountain. | 0:07:58 | 0:08:01 | |
It gets bigger and bigger and bigger and bigger | 0:08:01 | 0:08:03 | |
and then, finally, this fountain goes up. | 0:08:03 | 0:08:06 | |
And everybody just goes, "You know what..." | 0:08:06 | 0:08:09 | |
-"Maybe we should stop it." -"Maybe we should stop now." | 0:08:09 | 0:08:11 | |
It's the entire side of a palace. | 0:08:11 | 0:08:14 | |
In the middle, the God of the seas, Neptune. | 0:08:14 | 0:08:18 | |
On the left, you've got Abundance. | 0:08:19 | 0:08:23 | |
She's emphasising that, "Oh, it's not just Papal extravagance. | 0:08:23 | 0:08:27 | |
"Without this water..." | 0:08:27 | 0:08:28 | |
-Nothing grow. -Nothing grows. | 0:08:28 | 0:08:30 | |
And that's continued in this lovely detail of the plants... | 0:08:30 | 0:08:33 | |
-Yes. -..that's sort of growing up around the fountain. | 0:08:33 | 0:08:36 | |
Love that one, look, growing on the rocks. | 0:08:37 | 0:08:39 | |
-Looks like a lettuce or something. -Yeah. | 0:08:39 | 0:08:42 | |
I think my favourite detail are | 0:08:43 | 0:08:45 | |
these horses because they've got fish's tails, | 0:08:45 | 0:08:48 | |
horse's bodies, and they've also got wings. | 0:08:48 | 0:08:51 | |
Wings. Everything is there. | 0:08:51 | 0:08:54 | |
And it's all invented in one go here. | 0:08:54 | 0:08:56 | |
That is so brilliant. | 0:08:56 | 0:08:58 | |
Even as it started to go up, | 0:08:58 | 0:09:00 | |
people knew this was something pretty special, | 0:09:00 | 0:09:03 | |
and that's why the inscriptions are so confusing | 0:09:03 | 0:09:05 | |
because everyone wanted to have their name on it. | 0:09:05 | 0:09:08 | |
So it was commissioned by Pope Clement XII, | 0:09:08 | 0:09:11 | |
but in 1735, before the fountain is finished, he knows he's dying, | 0:09:11 | 0:09:16 | |
so he quickly makes sure that his name was inscribed. | 0:09:16 | 0:09:19 | |
Then, below, in the gold, we see Benedict XIV... | 0:09:19 | 0:09:23 | |
..in his... | 0:09:25 | 0:09:26 | |
Well, basically, in his time, it was actually finished | 0:09:26 | 0:09:29 | |
and declared open. | 0:09:29 | 0:09:30 | |
And then if you look below, another Pope, Clement XIII, | 0:09:31 | 0:09:35 | |
I think he did some additions to the aqueduct work | 0:09:35 | 0:09:37 | |
or something. And he said, "No, I want my name on it, too." | 0:09:37 | 0:09:40 | |
Yeah, it's not three coins in the fountain, | 0:09:40 | 0:09:42 | |
it's three Popes in a fountain. | 0:09:42 | 0:09:44 | |
But in the end, the Italian who really put his name on it, | 0:09:45 | 0:09:48 | |
although he didn't put his name on it... | 0:09:48 | 0:09:51 | |
-Federico Fellini. -Yes. | 0:09:51 | 0:09:53 | |
Marcello, where are you? | 0:09:55 | 0:09:57 | |
My goodness. | 0:10:02 | 0:10:03 | |
Fellini, more than anyone else, | 0:10:08 | 0:10:10 | |
with the scene in La Dolce Vita | 0:10:10 | 0:10:11 | |
where Anita Ekberg wades into the fountain, | 0:10:11 | 0:10:14 | |
and her friend, Marcello, Marcello Mastroianni. | 0:10:14 | 0:10:17 | |
They made the fountain, that was | 0:10:17 | 0:10:19 | |
already the fountain of the people of Rome, | 0:10:19 | 0:10:20 | |
became the fountain of the people of the world. | 0:10:20 | 0:10:22 | |
Of the world, that's right. | 0:10:22 | 0:10:24 | |
Absolutely. | 0:10:24 | 0:10:25 | |
Oscar winner Federico Fellini was | 0:10:33 | 0:10:36 | |
one of the most famous Italian film directors. | 0:10:36 | 0:10:39 | |
Although from Rimini, Fellini found his real home in Rome. | 0:10:39 | 0:10:42 | |
He responded above all to the people of the city. | 0:10:44 | 0:10:47 | |
Their passion, their love of spectacle | 0:10:48 | 0:10:50 | |
and he put them at the heart of much of his work. | 0:10:50 | 0:10:53 | |
In his 1960s masterpiece La Dolce Vita, | 0:10:55 | 0:10:58 | |
a satire on Roman high society, | 0:10:58 | 0:11:01 | |
he transformed the city's classical sites into vibrant film sets. | 0:11:01 | 0:11:05 | |
Hollywood and its starlets flooded in, | 0:11:07 | 0:11:10 | |
making Rome the centre of the world once again. | 0:11:10 | 0:11:13 | |
In the '50s here you had... | 0:11:16 | 0:11:20 | |
..Gary Cooper, everybody, and there would be people there just watching. | 0:11:20 | 0:11:24 | |
Just standing there on the street just watching. | 0:11:24 | 0:11:26 | |
Look and see what's happening, who's having a coffee, | 0:11:26 | 0:11:28 | |
who's drinking something. | 0:11:28 | 0:11:30 | |
And Fellini was right at the base of this. | 0:11:30 | 0:11:32 | |
He was kind of the spark and just illuminated the whole thing. | 0:11:32 | 0:11:37 | |
Although Fellini could have worked | 0:11:43 | 0:11:45 | |
with any of the big star of the time, | 0:11:45 | 0:11:47 | |
he never turned his back on the Romans. | 0:11:47 | 0:11:50 | |
And in any ordinary man and woman on the street he may find the potential | 0:11:51 | 0:11:55 | |
extra to give him the raw quality he was always looking for in his film. | 0:11:55 | 0:12:00 | |
-Buongiorno, Silvano. -Buongiorno. -Buongiorno. | 0:12:03 | 0:12:07 | |
Silvano Spoletini was 21 years old | 0:12:07 | 0:12:10 | |
and working as an encyclopaedia binder | 0:12:10 | 0:12:14 | |
when Fellini picked him to be an extra in his film Roma. | 0:12:14 | 0:12:18 | |
From that moment he went on to have a 60-year career, | 0:12:18 | 0:12:22 | |
working on films such as Ocean's 12 and Gangs of New York. | 0:12:22 | 0:12:27 | |
They called him The Lighthouse because he was the leading light | 0:12:29 | 0:12:33 | |
and everybody follow him. | 0:12:33 | 0:12:35 | |
The capacity of the Roman to, kind of, reinvent themselves | 0:13:20 | 0:13:25 | |
or to push little bit. | 0:13:25 | 0:13:26 | |
What are you doing this morning? I haven't got no job. | 0:13:26 | 0:13:29 | |
I'm walking down Piazza del Popolo. Maybe Fellini's going to pick me up. | 0:13:29 | 0:13:33 | |
Maybe he's going to put me in a film. There's always a chance. | 0:13:33 | 0:13:36 | |
I like that about the Romans, no? | 0:13:36 | 0:13:38 | |
I think it's... That's why it's eternal, the city, | 0:13:38 | 0:13:41 | |
because of the people. We say that so many times | 0:13:41 | 0:13:44 | |
It's now time to cook Andrew a classic Roman dish. | 0:13:54 | 0:13:58 | |
Despite the opulent culinary tradition of the rich, | 0:13:58 | 0:14:01 | |
the food that survive is the cuisine of the people. | 0:14:01 | 0:14:05 | |
Buongiorno. | 0:14:05 | 0:14:06 | |
Simple dishes that have stood the test of time | 0:14:06 | 0:14:09 | |
and everything that I need can be found | 0:14:09 | 0:14:12 | |
in one of the city's hidden gems. | 0:14:12 | 0:14:15 | |
Situated on Monteverde hill in south-west Rome, | 0:14:15 | 0:14:18 | |
San Giovanni di Dio is one of Rome's most vibrant markets. | 0:14:18 | 0:14:23 | |
I love this great amount of greenery. | 0:14:23 | 0:14:26 | |
Greenery everywhere. You see how much? | 0:14:26 | 0:14:28 | |
It's like... This is bietina. | 0:14:28 | 0:14:30 | |
It's like all this different type of spinach. | 0:14:30 | 0:14:32 | |
Very much at the base of what they cook. | 0:14:32 | 0:14:34 | |
I mean, you don't see anything that is not seasonal here, do you? | 0:14:34 | 0:14:38 | |
No. It's all grown around the corner. | 0:14:38 | 0:14:40 | |
That doesn't say, flown in from Israel. | 0:14:40 | 0:14:43 | |
That's, like, driven in by Enzo this morning. | 0:14:43 | 0:14:46 | |
Andrew. | 0:14:49 | 0:14:51 | |
-That's what we want to buy. -Oh, the Romanesco! | 0:14:52 | 0:14:55 | |
Buongiorno. | 0:14:55 | 0:14:57 | |
Due Romanesco. | 0:14:57 | 0:14:59 | |
One of the main ingredients of my dish | 0:14:59 | 0:15:01 | |
are these beautiful Romanesco broccoli. | 0:15:01 | 0:15:04 | |
Perfecto. | 0:15:04 | 0:15:05 | |
Due carota. | 0:15:07 | 0:15:09 | |
Quattordici quarantacinque. | 0:15:10 | 0:15:12 | |
Grazie. | 0:15:12 | 0:15:13 | |
Next, it's time to buy the main ingredient. | 0:15:13 | 0:15:17 | |
-So, what are we going to buy? -We're going to buy a razza. | 0:15:17 | 0:15:20 | |
It's called arzilla in Rome | 0:15:20 | 0:15:23 | |
and it's called skate in England. | 0:15:23 | 0:15:25 | |
All the fish have so many different names. | 0:15:25 | 0:15:27 | |
In all, it has about, like, | 0:15:27 | 0:15:29 | |
12 different names in Italy. | 0:15:29 | 0:15:31 | |
Right, right. HE SPEAKS ITALIAN | 0:15:31 | 0:15:35 | |
So, you better get your skates on. | 0:15:35 | 0:15:38 | |
THEY SPEAK ITALIAN | 0:15:38 | 0:15:41 | |
He already knows what I'm going to cook. | 0:15:47 | 0:15:49 | |
Which is..? | 0:15:49 | 0:15:51 | |
Pasta broccoli con arzilla. | 0:15:51 | 0:15:53 | |
Pasta broccoli con arzilla. | 0:15:53 | 0:15:55 | |
THEY SPEAK ITALIAN | 0:16:01 | 0:16:04 | |
62 years he's been in the market. | 0:16:04 | 0:16:07 | |
-Tu sempre questa..? -Cento questa. | 0:16:10 | 0:16:12 | |
It's 100 years that they've had this stall on this market. | 0:16:12 | 0:16:15 | |
Wow. | 0:16:15 | 0:16:16 | |
He says, "Do you want some parsley?" | 0:16:21 | 0:16:23 | |
because when they serve the fish, | 0:16:23 | 0:16:24 | |
they give you present, a little bit of parsley. | 0:16:24 | 0:16:26 | |
What do you want more than that? | 0:16:26 | 0:16:28 | |
-Grazie. -Grazie, buona giornata. | 0:16:28 | 0:16:30 | |
So we have everything we need now. | 0:16:30 | 0:16:32 | |
Now we have everything we need. | 0:16:32 | 0:16:34 | |
So we can go and eat. | 0:16:34 | 0:16:35 | |
Let's go and cook first. | 0:16:35 | 0:16:37 | |
I forgot that bit. | 0:16:37 | 0:16:39 | |
I forgot that bit... | 0:16:39 | 0:16:41 | |
Una, una... | 0:16:42 | 0:16:44 | |
What are you doing?! | 0:16:44 | 0:16:45 | |
Andrew, today I'm going to cook you a dish that | 0:16:50 | 0:16:53 | |
is really steeped in history. | 0:16:53 | 0:16:55 | |
I'm going to cook a delicious centuries-old | 0:16:55 | 0:16:58 | |
fish soup with vegetables. | 0:16:58 | 0:17:00 | |
Let's start with the fish first. | 0:17:01 | 0:17:03 | |
The skin of the skate is very spiky | 0:17:03 | 0:17:06 | |
so it's important to scrape it | 0:17:06 | 0:17:08 | |
properly under the tap. | 0:17:08 | 0:17:10 | |
OK, look, Andrew, I mean, | 0:17:10 | 0:17:12 | |
you can see the wings which are the eatable part. | 0:17:12 | 0:17:15 | |
I'm going to go pretty straightforward in, like that. | 0:17:15 | 0:17:19 | |
We're going to go round it. | 0:17:19 | 0:17:20 | |
As you cut you can feel the blade | 0:17:22 | 0:17:24 | |
hitting the bones, so just follow it the length of the fish. | 0:17:24 | 0:17:28 | |
Eugh... | 0:17:28 | 0:17:29 | |
You also have to remove the guts, head and tail, | 0:17:30 | 0:17:34 | |
until you're left with just two beautiful wings. | 0:17:34 | 0:17:38 | |
OK, so now... | 0:17:38 | 0:17:40 | |
Now they really do look like angel wings, don't they? | 0:17:40 | 0:17:43 | |
Now, this is the most important bit, OK. | 0:17:43 | 0:17:45 | |
The trickiest job is to remove the skin from the wings of the skate. | 0:17:45 | 0:17:50 | |
Of course, that's from the electricity department. | 0:17:50 | 0:17:55 | |
Very good. You'd be a really good executioner or torturer, I think. | 0:17:55 | 0:17:59 | |
You've got all the skills. | 0:17:59 | 0:18:00 | |
If you carry on like that, chatting, | 0:18:02 | 0:18:05 | |
I'll definitely execute you before the end. | 0:18:05 | 0:18:09 | |
So here they are. | 0:18:09 | 0:18:11 | |
Usually when you go to the market this is what you get. | 0:18:11 | 0:18:14 | |
But you're going to use everything from that, | 0:18:14 | 0:18:16 | |
you're not just going to use the wing, | 0:18:16 | 0:18:18 | |
you're going to use all the bones and everything, to make a stock? | 0:18:18 | 0:18:21 | |
-That's what I want to make, a beautiful stock, with that. -OK. | 0:18:21 | 0:18:24 | |
So...I got my pan. | 0:18:24 | 0:18:26 | |
I make the fish stock with carrot, celery, | 0:18:27 | 0:18:30 | |
onions and a couple of bay leaves. | 0:18:30 | 0:18:32 | |
That's what they used to put on Julius Caesar's head, isn't it? | 0:18:32 | 0:18:35 | |
That's right. | 0:18:35 | 0:18:37 | |
Bit of peppercorns. | 0:18:37 | 0:18:39 | |
And finally, a couple of juniper cloves. | 0:18:39 | 0:18:42 | |
-Interesting. -A couple of them, | 0:18:42 | 0:18:43 | |
just to give them a little bit to sustain the flavour. | 0:18:43 | 0:18:46 | |
-Interesting. -OK. | 0:18:46 | 0:18:47 | |
Next, I put the fish bones in with the vegetables, | 0:18:52 | 0:18:56 | |
as well as the two wings. | 0:18:56 | 0:18:58 | |
So we put them in, both of them. | 0:18:58 | 0:19:00 | |
Oh, you put the wings in too. | 0:19:00 | 0:19:01 | |
That's right. Cold water. | 0:19:01 | 0:19:03 | |
The last thing that goes in there is a little splash of wine. | 0:19:04 | 0:19:08 | |
OK. The idea is this... | 0:19:09 | 0:19:11 | |
I'm going to put that on a very tiny fire. | 0:19:11 | 0:19:13 | |
Yeah. And I want it to go fast. | 0:19:13 | 0:19:16 | |
You must remember one thing, that fish bones | 0:19:16 | 0:19:19 | |
release all their flavours in about 20 minutes. | 0:19:19 | 0:19:22 | |
So then, if you want to make it strong you have to reduce it. | 0:19:22 | 0:19:27 | |
It's all about, like, very | 0:19:27 | 0:19:29 | |
intelligently stealing the flavour out of these things, yeah. | 0:19:29 | 0:19:33 | |
You quite often talk about persuading. | 0:19:33 | 0:19:35 | |
Persuading the food to cooperate with you. | 0:19:35 | 0:19:40 | |
You have to make it fall in love | 0:19:40 | 0:19:42 | |
with you and you fall in love with it and | 0:19:42 | 0:19:44 | |
then you make a beautiful thing now together. | 0:19:44 | 0:19:47 | |
As the stock is heating up, it's | 0:19:50 | 0:19:52 | |
important to skim off any floating froth, | 0:19:52 | 0:19:55 | |
to make sure that it's clear when cooked. | 0:19:55 | 0:19:57 | |
After 15 minutes, we can take the skate wings out and let them rest. | 0:19:59 | 0:20:04 | |
Oh! | 0:20:04 | 0:20:05 | |
I lost a little bit. | 0:20:05 | 0:20:07 | |
So, I'm going to let that cook. | 0:20:07 | 0:20:09 | |
And hold on... | 0:20:09 | 0:20:10 | |
I'm going to show you now what I'm doing. | 0:20:10 | 0:20:12 | |
OK. | 0:20:13 | 0:20:15 | |
-We're going to prepare the broccoli. -Oh, I love these. -Yeah? | 0:20:15 | 0:20:18 | |
Such a beautiful thing. | 0:20:18 | 0:20:19 | |
Now, I'm going to cut them into really | 0:20:19 | 0:20:22 | |
lovely sort of floret | 0:20:22 | 0:20:24 | |
as they call it in English, no? | 0:20:24 | 0:20:26 | |
And some of these will become a little bit more overcooked | 0:20:26 | 0:20:29 | |
and melt away in the sauce. | 0:20:29 | 0:20:31 | |
Some of this will be really nice and | 0:20:31 | 0:20:33 | |
give you a little crunch, you know. | 0:20:33 | 0:20:35 | |
Next, I start preparing the base for the soup. | 0:20:36 | 0:20:39 | |
Bit of olive oil... | 0:20:39 | 0:20:40 | |
Onions, celery, carrots, garlic, the Romanesco broccoli, | 0:20:40 | 0:20:44 | |
-and the anchovies. -Oo-ooh! | 0:20:44 | 0:20:47 | |
And I put it there. | 0:20:47 | 0:20:48 | |
OK. I'm going to let | 0:20:49 | 0:20:51 | |
those melt away... | 0:20:51 | 0:20:54 | |
-..with it, eh. -Mmm, good smell. | 0:20:55 | 0:20:57 | |
Vino, in it. | 0:20:59 | 0:21:01 | |
SIZZLING | 0:21:01 | 0:21:03 | |
-You hear that..? -HE IMITATES SIZZLING | 0:21:03 | 0:21:05 | |
That's what I want. | 0:21:05 | 0:21:08 | |
A few pieces of tomato. | 0:21:08 | 0:21:10 | |
And to give it an absolutely amazing colour, tomato paste. | 0:21:10 | 0:21:14 | |
This is my stock. | 0:21:23 | 0:21:25 | |
We're going to put some of the stock on that. | 0:21:26 | 0:21:30 | |
I'm going to let it cook for at least... | 0:21:30 | 0:21:33 | |
..ten minutes. | 0:21:35 | 0:21:36 | |
Time to finish the dish by adding a short type of pasta | 0:21:37 | 0:21:40 | |
that's perfect for soups. | 0:21:40 | 0:21:41 | |
Don't forget to stir it. | 0:21:43 | 0:21:44 | |
You don't want the pasta to stick at the bottom. | 0:21:44 | 0:21:46 | |
Oh, so that's the finishing touch. | 0:21:49 | 0:21:51 | |
Oo-oo-ooh! | 0:21:51 | 0:21:53 | |
What a lovely idea for a dish. | 0:21:55 | 0:21:57 | |
OK, you can prepare the table now. | 0:21:59 | 0:22:01 | |
Because we're nearly there, eh. | 0:22:01 | 0:22:02 | |
-Come, Andrew. -Woh-oh... | 0:22:05 | 0:22:07 | |
Oh, the smell is fantastic. | 0:22:11 | 0:22:14 | |
Giorgio, that is fantastic. | 0:22:19 | 0:22:23 | |
This is Rome. | 0:22:23 | 0:22:25 | |
Intenso, it's intense. | 0:22:25 | 0:22:27 | |
Also, the broccolo adds this really nice flavour | 0:22:27 | 0:22:30 | |
and it adds a little bit of | 0:22:30 | 0:22:32 | |
-bitterness to that. -Yep. | 0:22:32 | 0:22:34 | |
If you came to Rome and you were a pilgrim, not so much money, | 0:22:34 | 0:22:38 | |
you might end up eating this. | 0:22:38 | 0:22:40 | |
Definitely. That was the staple. | 0:22:40 | 0:22:43 | |
-Really? -Absolutely. | 0:22:43 | 0:22:44 | |
If you go back in time... | 0:22:44 | 0:22:45 | |
That's it. | 0:22:45 | 0:22:46 | |
The ideal dish for a tired pilgrim. | 0:22:47 | 0:22:51 | |
Perfected, no wonder, here in Rome. | 0:22:51 | 0:22:54 | |
Following the counterreformation, | 0:23:00 | 0:23:03 | |
the Catholic Church did its utmost | 0:23:03 | 0:23:05 | |
to restore Rome's spiritual authority... | 0:23:05 | 0:23:07 | |
..raising the great dome of St Peter's... | 0:23:08 | 0:23:10 | |
..and building a multitude of other churches as beacons to the faithful. | 0:23:14 | 0:23:18 | |
Thousands of ragged pilgrims in search of redemption | 0:23:19 | 0:23:22 | |
flooded the city, making Rome a city of stark contrasts. | 0:23:22 | 0:23:27 | |
Rich architecture... | 0:23:27 | 0:23:28 | |
..alongside desperately poor people, living on the streets... | 0:23:30 | 0:23:33 | |
..and nobody captured that better than the painter Caravaggio. | 0:23:36 | 0:23:39 | |
I want to show Giorgio two of my favourite paintings... | 0:23:42 | 0:23:44 | |
..breathtaking works that would give the travellers hope and consolation. | 0:23:46 | 0:23:52 | |
So, Giorgio, this is the burial chapel of Tiberio Cerasi. | 0:23:52 | 0:23:56 | |
He was the principal banker to the Pope, had a lot of money, | 0:23:56 | 0:24:00 | |
but he knew he was dying, | 0:24:00 | 0:24:02 | |
and so he commissioned the paintings in this chapel, | 0:24:02 | 0:24:05 | |
two of them are by Caravaggio. | 0:24:05 | 0:24:08 | |
This one... | 0:24:08 | 0:24:10 | |
..shows St Peter. | 0:24:10 | 0:24:13 | |
And immediately you are face-to-face | 0:24:13 | 0:24:15 | |
with Caravaggio's great revolution, | 0:24:15 | 0:24:18 | |
like Fellini so many years later, to cast the people from the street, | 0:24:18 | 0:24:23 | |
from the streets of Rome, and to put them in his paintings. | 0:24:23 | 0:24:27 | |
And he's doing that here, with this terrible scene, | 0:24:27 | 0:24:29 | |
the crucifixion of St Peter. | 0:24:29 | 0:24:31 | |
It's almost as if he might have used as his model that poor man, | 0:24:31 | 0:24:35 | |
that beggar that we saw on the steps | 0:24:35 | 0:24:38 | |
of the other church around the corner. | 0:24:38 | 0:24:40 | |
And in his own time these paintings were really shocking. | 0:24:40 | 0:24:44 | |
Oh, it's shocking now | 0:24:44 | 0:24:46 | |
with the imagery that we are used to | 0:24:46 | 0:24:48 | |
but it's still quite powerful, this one, you know. | 0:24:48 | 0:24:50 | |
And that dirty feet it just says so much. | 0:24:50 | 0:24:54 | |
Because Italian painting at that moment, before Caravaggio, | 0:24:54 | 0:24:57 | |
was very artificial, very mannered, | 0:24:57 | 0:24:59 | |
very contrived, | 0:24:59 | 0:25:00 | |
very little smell of reality in it, | 0:25:00 | 0:25:03 | |
and suddenly with Caravaggio you've got Peter's sunburnt face, | 0:25:03 | 0:25:07 | |
his scrawny torso, | 0:25:07 | 0:25:09 | |
his agonised expression, | 0:25:09 | 0:25:12 | |
and Caravaggio's painting it almost | 0:25:12 | 0:25:14 | |
as a grisly scene of hydraulic engineering. | 0:25:14 | 0:25:18 | |
Man driven. | 0:25:18 | 0:25:19 | |
You're going to lift him up, put him on the cross. | 0:25:19 | 0:25:22 | |
But I think also Caravaggio's giving hope. | 0:25:23 | 0:25:26 | |
Because this church is the first church | 0:25:26 | 0:25:28 | |
that you'd come to when you enter Rome | 0:25:28 | 0:25:30 | |
because that, outside, was once the gate to Rome. | 0:25:30 | 0:25:33 | |
Now there's a road outside, but in the past it was fields. | 0:25:33 | 0:25:36 | |
You had dirty feet, you identify yourself with them. | 0:25:37 | 0:25:40 | |
Exactly. Yeah. | 0:25:40 | 0:25:42 | |
Cerasi, whose mortuary chapel this is, he was clever. | 0:25:42 | 0:25:47 | |
Not only did he commission Caravaggio to decorate the chapel, | 0:25:47 | 0:25:51 | |
but he also got the leading other painter of Rome at the time, | 0:25:51 | 0:25:56 | |
Annibale Carracci, | 0:25:56 | 0:25:58 | |
to paint the main altarpiece. | 0:25:58 | 0:26:01 | |
Below you've got the Apostles | 0:26:01 | 0:26:03 | |
and it shows the moment when the Madonna's soul | 0:26:03 | 0:26:07 | |
is assumed into heaven. | 0:26:07 | 0:26:08 | |
Up she rises into the skies. | 0:26:08 | 0:26:11 | |
This is really the dawn of the baroque style. | 0:26:14 | 0:26:17 | |
And what the baroque style exists to do is to make us, | 0:26:18 | 0:26:22 | |
the worshippers coming to church, feel a little bit smaller, | 0:26:22 | 0:26:26 | |
a little bit on our knees, | 0:26:26 | 0:26:28 | |
a little bit "Oh!", in awe. | 0:26:28 | 0:26:31 | |
This is a painting that says, "Yes, | 0:26:31 | 0:26:33 | |
"you can come here to worship but remember your place." | 0:26:33 | 0:26:37 | |
And what's interesting is that the Carracci painting, | 0:26:37 | 0:26:40 | |
that was installed before Caravaggio painted his second picture. | 0:26:40 | 0:26:46 | |
And what did he do? | 0:26:46 | 0:26:47 | |
It's this enormous horse. | 0:26:48 | 0:26:51 | |
And he puts the horse's arse in the face... | 0:26:51 | 0:26:54 | |
..of the Virgin of Carracci. | 0:26:56 | 0:26:58 | |
As if to say, | 0:26:58 | 0:27:00 | |
"This is what I think... | 0:27:00 | 0:27:02 | |
"..of your elevated Christianity." | 0:27:02 | 0:27:06 | |
I like this Caravaggio guy. | 0:27:06 | 0:27:07 | |
-He's quite cool. -He really is. | 0:27:09 | 0:27:11 | |
He's cool, man. | 0:27:11 | 0:27:12 | |
This is St Paul or Saul as he was, | 0:27:12 | 0:27:17 | |
at the moment of his conversion. | 0:27:17 | 0:27:19 | |
That's the subject of the painting. | 0:27:19 | 0:27:21 | |
This is the moment on the road to Damascus | 0:27:21 | 0:27:24 | |
when he becomes a Christian. | 0:27:24 | 0:27:26 | |
Boom, you can hear it. | 0:27:27 | 0:27:29 | |
I never fell off the horse. | 0:27:29 | 0:27:30 | |
I fell off a few motorbikes. | 0:27:30 | 0:27:32 | |
I never fell off the horse. | 0:27:32 | 0:27:34 | |
But I can, you know, kind of like, | 0:27:34 | 0:27:36 | |
you can see he's been struck and he's almost underneath the horse. | 0:27:36 | 0:27:39 | |
Caravaggio means the horse and the groom... | 0:27:39 | 0:27:43 | |
..who looks a bit like Joseph, | 0:27:43 | 0:27:44 | |
I think to evoke the idea of the Nativity. | 0:27:44 | 0:27:47 | |
So you do a kind of double take | 0:27:47 | 0:27:48 | |
cos you look down from them and you expect to see | 0:27:48 | 0:27:50 | |
the baby Jesus by the manger. | 0:27:50 | 0:27:52 | |
But, no, you see Paul. | 0:27:52 | 0:27:54 | |
But then, after you've done the double take, | 0:27:54 | 0:27:56 | |
I think that's when the meaning unfolds. | 0:27:56 | 0:27:58 | |
Because, yes, at this moment of his conversion, | 0:27:58 | 0:28:01 | |
Paul is like the little baby Jesus in the manger. | 0:28:01 | 0:28:04 | |
He's lying helpless on the ground. | 0:28:04 | 0:28:08 | |
And then Caravaggio, with a stroke of genius, I think, | 0:28:08 | 0:28:11 | |
has Paul stretch out his arms, | 0:28:11 | 0:28:14 | |
so in the same moment he's also Christ on the cross. | 0:28:14 | 0:28:19 | |
So light floods him. | 0:28:19 | 0:28:21 | |
He is spiritually enlightened. | 0:28:21 | 0:28:23 | |
It's one of the most amazing pictures in the world. | 0:28:23 | 0:28:27 | |
I think this is one of the best painting I ever seen in my life. | 0:28:27 | 0:28:32 | |
He's a communicator... | 0:28:32 | 0:28:34 | |
..to the people like me. | 0:28:35 | 0:28:37 | |
And that is something that I would | 0:28:37 | 0:28:39 | |
now come to the church to have a look at that. | 0:28:39 | 0:28:42 | |
So, you vote for Caravaggio? | 0:28:43 | 0:28:46 | |
Due a zero. | 0:28:46 | 0:28:48 | |
For centuries after his death, | 0:28:51 | 0:28:53 | |
Caravaggio was sneered at as a crude and vulgar artist. | 0:28:53 | 0:28:57 | |
He was rediscovered partly by | 0:29:01 | 0:29:03 | |
Italian film-makers, including Fellini, | 0:29:03 | 0:29:06 | |
who loved his cinematic use of light | 0:29:06 | 0:29:09 | |
as well as the way he used real people. | 0:29:09 | 0:29:11 | |
And since the mid-20th century, | 0:29:14 | 0:29:15 | |
Caravaggio's reputation has been on the rise. | 0:29:15 | 0:29:18 | |
He's now one of the world's best-loved painters. | 0:29:18 | 0:29:22 | |
-Oh! -Oh! | 0:29:29 | 0:29:31 | |
Va bene... | 0:29:31 | 0:29:33 | |
This is the old Roman Way. | 0:29:34 | 0:29:36 | |
-Oh, man! -Julius Caesar used to come down this road, man. | 0:29:36 | 0:29:39 | |
Got to be excited about it. | 0:29:39 | 0:29:41 | |
Rome is the political centre of Italy. | 0:29:44 | 0:29:47 | |
Nowhere else will you find so many politician and bureaucrats... | 0:29:47 | 0:29:51 | |
..or so many limousines stuck in traffic. | 0:29:51 | 0:29:53 | |
Ordinary Romans are used to rubbing shoulders with those in power | 0:29:55 | 0:29:59 | |
and they are prepared to put up a fight. | 0:29:59 | 0:30:02 | |
GIORGIO SCREAMS | 0:30:02 | 0:30:04 | |
Let's go and have a coffee. | 0:30:06 | 0:30:08 | |
Romans love nothing more than discussing politics | 0:30:10 | 0:30:13 | |
from their first espresso of the day. | 0:30:13 | 0:30:15 | |
To be the mayor of this town, | 0:30:15 | 0:30:18 | |
I think is the hardest job. | 0:30:18 | 0:30:20 | |
Whatever you do, you'll always have someone who says the contrary. | 0:30:20 | 0:30:24 | |
How many bureaucrats are there in Rome? | 0:30:24 | 0:30:26 | |
Well, that's the thing. | 0:30:26 | 0:30:27 | |
Quanti burocrati a Roma? | 0:30:27 | 0:30:30 | |
-Troppi. -Troppi! | 0:30:30 | 0:30:31 | |
Too many, too many. | 0:30:32 | 0:30:34 | |
But, at the end of the day, | 0:30:36 | 0:30:37 | |
Rome would be always Rome because of the people of Rome. | 0:30:37 | 0:30:40 | |
-Yeah. -You can put as many laws as they want, | 0:30:40 | 0:30:42 | |
but they will do whatever they want, | 0:30:42 | 0:30:44 | |
because they've been doing that for the eternal time. | 0:30:44 | 0:30:47 | |
That's why they've been here for such a long time, | 0:30:47 | 0:30:49 | |
because that's what they do. | 0:30:49 | 0:30:51 | |
They do what they want. | 0:30:51 | 0:30:52 | |
I read in the paper that the | 0:30:52 | 0:30:54 | |
highest-paid head of traffic wardens in the world | 0:30:54 | 0:30:57 | |
is the head of the traffic wardens of Rome. | 0:30:57 | 0:31:00 | |
He gets paid more than the President of the United States! | 0:31:00 | 0:31:02 | |
Yeah, exactly, he gets paid, like, half a million pounds. | 0:31:02 | 0:31:05 | |
And, still, everybody parks where they like. | 0:31:05 | 0:31:07 | |
Everybody do what they want. | 0:31:10 | 0:31:12 | |
I want to take Giorgio to see a monument | 0:31:12 | 0:31:14 | |
that hails the moment when Rome first became | 0:31:14 | 0:31:17 | |
the centre of modern Italian politics. | 0:31:17 | 0:31:19 | |
At the end of the 19th century Italy | 0:31:23 | 0:31:25 | |
was still divided into many states, | 0:31:25 | 0:31:27 | |
under different rulers. | 0:31:27 | 0:31:28 | |
But in 1861 the Savoy family, under their king, Vittorio Emanuele, | 0:31:29 | 0:31:35 | |
had placed their stamp on the unification of the country. | 0:31:35 | 0:31:40 | |
And ten years later declared Rome its capital. | 0:31:40 | 0:31:43 | |
For the Roman people, it also meant | 0:31:44 | 0:31:46 | |
the end of over a thousand years of papal rule. | 0:31:46 | 0:31:49 | |
So to celebrate this moment, | 0:31:49 | 0:31:51 | |
and the crowning of Italy's first king... | 0:31:51 | 0:31:54 | |
..the Vittoriano was erected, | 0:31:57 | 0:31:59 | |
right in the centre of Rome, | 0:31:59 | 0:32:01 | |
next to the Imperial Forum. | 0:32:01 | 0:32:03 | |
What a great beauty. | 0:32:04 | 0:32:06 | |
Which one? I like these bits. | 0:32:06 | 0:32:08 | |
I'm not so sure about... | 0:32:08 | 0:32:09 | |
That big one, over there. | 0:32:09 | 0:32:11 | |
When you see it in the context of real Roman ruins, | 0:32:12 | 0:32:15 | |
I think you get a sense of how... | 0:32:15 | 0:32:17 | |
..just crazily enormous, | 0:32:17 | 0:32:20 | |
how glaringly white, | 0:32:20 | 0:32:22 | |
how astonishingly pompous, | 0:32:22 | 0:32:25 | |
is the monument to Vittorio Emanuele. | 0:32:25 | 0:32:28 | |
I mean, this is Vittorio Emanuele coming to Rome, | 0:32:28 | 0:32:31 | |
saying, "Italy, one Italy, under me". | 0:32:31 | 0:32:35 | |
And he's basically | 0:32:35 | 0:32:37 | |
trying to replace Marco Aurelio, Marcus Aurelius, who's in the back, | 0:32:37 | 0:32:42 | |
obscured almost, from the view of the Romans, | 0:32:42 | 0:32:44 | |
by this great white elephant. | 0:32:44 | 0:32:46 | |
With him on his horse, he's saying, "I'm the new emperor." | 0:32:46 | 0:32:50 | |
-Yeah. -It's the size of a mountain. | 0:32:50 | 0:32:53 | |
I mean, I think it's 70 metres high, more than 100 metres across. | 0:32:53 | 0:32:58 | |
It was inaugurated, I think, in 1912 | 0:32:58 | 0:33:01 | |
and finished 13 years later, | 0:33:01 | 0:33:03 | |
the greatest job creation scheme in the history of Italian sculpture. | 0:33:03 | 0:33:08 | |
The Roman never liked... | 0:33:08 | 0:33:10 | |
You know what they call this? | 0:33:10 | 0:33:12 | |
-They call it the typewriter. -The typewriter? -Yes. | 0:33:12 | 0:33:14 | |
It looks like a typewriter. | 0:33:14 | 0:33:16 | |
You know, one of the old ones, that you just... | 0:33:16 | 0:33:18 | |
-Swings along. -I think that's the whole problem, though, | 0:33:18 | 0:33:21 | |
is that the language that's being typed out on the typewriter is not | 0:33:21 | 0:33:23 | |
really Roman, not Italian. | 0:33:23 | 0:33:26 | |
This is the classicism of Germany. | 0:33:26 | 0:33:29 | |
I mean, it could almost be made of ice. | 0:33:29 | 0:33:31 | |
It's glaring, its white, it's enormous, it's like the Valhalla. | 0:33:31 | 0:33:35 | |
This is Wagner, not Verdi. | 0:33:35 | 0:33:36 | |
Yeah. The whiteness really puts it at odds with everything else. | 0:33:36 | 0:33:40 | |
Because, I don't know, like, look at those tree, | 0:33:40 | 0:33:42 | |
looks in harmony with the church and things. | 0:33:42 | 0:33:45 | |
You kind of like, the shapes, they're all working, these columns, | 0:33:45 | 0:33:48 | |
and suddenly it's like an eyesore, isn't it? | 0:33:48 | 0:33:51 | |
Think about the Capitoline Hill is just behind that. | 0:33:51 | 0:33:55 | |
So in order to build this, what did they build it on top? | 0:33:55 | 0:33:59 | |
Surely there must be something. | 0:33:59 | 0:34:00 | |
Yeah. No, no, they did, they knocked down some temples, | 0:34:00 | 0:34:03 | |
they covered up a piece of ancient Roman history | 0:34:03 | 0:34:05 | |
to create the modern monument. | 0:34:05 | 0:34:08 | |
I mean, this is absolutely in the centre of the city. | 0:34:08 | 0:34:12 | |
And I think that's again part of the problem the people here | 0:34:12 | 0:34:15 | |
have had accepting it - | 0:34:15 | 0:34:16 | |
they know that this has abolished part of their own history. | 0:34:16 | 0:34:20 | |
And so there he is on his horse, | 0:34:20 | 0:34:22 | |
the new Marcus Aurelius, | 0:34:22 | 0:34:24 | |
Vittorio Emanuele II, | 0:34:24 | 0:34:25 | |
and he's saying, | 0:34:25 | 0:34:26 | |
"Friends, Romans, countrymen, | 0:34:26 | 0:34:29 | |
"lend me your ears", but I think | 0:34:29 | 0:34:31 | |
they never really did lend them their ears. | 0:34:31 | 0:34:33 | |
I really don't like the typewriter. | 0:34:34 | 0:34:37 | |
But the Savoy family rule wasn't all bad news for Rome. | 0:34:37 | 0:34:40 | |
In fact, one of my favourite districts was created under them. | 0:34:43 | 0:34:48 | |
A place made for the people. | 0:34:48 | 0:34:50 | |
And I really want to show it to Andrew. | 0:34:50 | 0:34:53 | |
At the beginning of the 20th century, | 0:34:54 | 0:34:56 | |
from being a sleepy village, | 0:34:56 | 0:34:58 | |
Rome rapidly became a frenetic European capital. | 0:34:58 | 0:35:02 | |
The Savoy family started building | 0:35:03 | 0:35:05 | |
social housing for workers such as the Garbatella. | 0:35:05 | 0:35:08 | |
Once at the very edges of the city, | 0:35:10 | 0:35:12 | |
and now right in the centre, | 0:35:12 | 0:35:14 | |
only ten minutes by scooter from the Coliseum. | 0:35:14 | 0:35:16 | |
Here we are, in Garbatella, man. | 0:35:19 | 0:35:21 | |
Where are we going, up the steps? | 0:35:23 | 0:35:24 | |
Yeah, let's go up there. | 0:35:24 | 0:35:25 | |
Come and have a look at this. | 0:35:27 | 0:35:28 | |
Garbatella, garbato, means to be kind, you know. | 0:35:28 | 0:35:34 | |
So this is a place where you're welcome. | 0:35:34 | 0:35:36 | |
And look, we are in the centre of town. | 0:35:36 | 0:35:39 | |
This is not the Rome that I know. | 0:35:39 | 0:35:41 | |
I mean, this is so peaceful. | 0:35:41 | 0:35:43 | |
Where are the guys on motor scooters, zipping past you? | 0:35:43 | 0:35:47 | |
Absolutely. But look, the architecture is incredible. | 0:35:48 | 0:35:51 | |
-Look at this place. -But this is the 1920s. | 0:35:51 | 0:35:54 | |
When I see a house like that, I mean, my association is to think, | 0:35:54 | 0:35:59 | |
"Suddenly I am actually in the countryside in Italy." | 0:35:59 | 0:36:01 | |
Yeah, little patch where you can grow his little basil | 0:36:01 | 0:36:04 | |
and his little potato or tomato. | 0:36:04 | 0:36:07 | |
But what I love about it is that it is so Italian. | 0:36:07 | 0:36:09 | |
It's a little bit chaotic, a little bit unkempt, | 0:36:09 | 0:36:13 | |
but in a very beautiful way. | 0:36:13 | 0:36:14 | |
Like, look where they've got the two pipes presumably were there one time | 0:36:14 | 0:36:17 | |
but they haven't bothered to paint it back. | 0:36:17 | 0:36:19 | |
There's the plaster round the window. | 0:36:19 | 0:36:21 | |
-This is charm. -It's charming, it's lovely. | 0:36:21 | 0:36:23 | |
It's really like a little paradise. | 0:36:23 | 0:36:25 | |
From the people I've seen living here, | 0:36:25 | 0:36:27 | |
quite a lot of them are getting on a bit now. | 0:36:27 | 0:36:30 | |
It's as if they are part of the original community. | 0:36:30 | 0:36:32 | |
People in their 60s, people in their 70s... | 0:36:32 | 0:36:34 | |
You want to live with the people | 0:36:34 | 0:36:35 | |
that you love and you want to die with the people that you love. | 0:36:35 | 0:36:38 | |
Surrounded by it, the sense of community, | 0:36:38 | 0:36:40 | |
makes you feel like a human. | 0:36:40 | 0:36:42 | |
-Buongiorno. -Buongiorno. | 0:36:52 | 0:36:55 | |
-Qual'e il nomo del tuo cane? -Pepe. | 0:36:55 | 0:36:58 | |
-Pepe! -Buongiorno, Pepe. -Cacio e pepe. | 0:36:58 | 0:37:00 | |
Perfect. | 0:37:00 | 0:37:02 | |
Salve. Buongiorno. | 0:37:02 | 0:37:05 | |
In designing the Garbatella, | 0:37:08 | 0:37:10 | |
Rome's urban planners were greatly influenced by the English trend | 0:37:10 | 0:37:14 | |
known as the garden city movement of the early 20th century. | 0:37:14 | 0:37:18 | |
So in a way, | 0:37:18 | 0:37:20 | |
this is a Roman version of | 0:37:20 | 0:37:22 | |
Hampstead Garden Suburb in London. | 0:37:22 | 0:37:24 | |
But the character of this village on the edge of the city | 0:37:27 | 0:37:30 | |
will change in the 1920s... | 0:37:30 | 0:37:32 | |
..when the fascists came to power. | 0:37:33 | 0:37:35 | |
Fascism and its drive for modernisation | 0:37:39 | 0:37:42 | |
took an iron grip of Italy, | 0:37:42 | 0:37:44 | |
and most of all, Rome. | 0:37:44 | 0:37:45 | |
Thousands more workers from the countryside flooded into the city. | 0:37:47 | 0:37:51 | |
And to house them, a new generation of architects | 0:37:54 | 0:37:57 | |
came up with grander designs and bigger buildings for Garbatella. | 0:37:57 | 0:38:01 | |
You see, Andrew, just round the corner it changes completely. | 0:38:06 | 0:38:09 | |
Wow. And they're just so grand. | 0:38:09 | 0:38:12 | |
-They are. -They're like palaces. | 0:38:12 | 0:38:14 | |
This style is called baroquetto. | 0:38:14 | 0:38:17 | |
Baroquetto. | 0:38:17 | 0:38:19 | |
-That's right. -Which means little Baroque. | 0:38:19 | 0:38:21 | |
-Yeah, baby Baroque. -Baby Baroque. | 0:38:21 | 0:38:23 | |
It's fantastic cos it is! That's like a Baroque palace. | 0:38:23 | 0:38:26 | |
Except you see these heads normally on an aristocratic palace. | 0:38:26 | 0:38:30 | |
-That's right. -But here, the heads | 0:38:30 | 0:38:33 | |
are on the side of a council flat block, | 0:38:33 | 0:38:36 | |
and they're the heads of people from the 1920s, or maybe the 1930s. | 0:38:36 | 0:38:40 | |
Look at her little bob hairstyle. | 0:38:40 | 0:38:41 | |
-Unbelievable, isn't it? -It's fantastic. | 0:38:41 | 0:38:44 | |
Look, there's something like a gargoyle on the front of the house. | 0:38:44 | 0:38:48 | |
It's not just building. | 0:38:49 | 0:38:50 | |
I can imagine things happening behind those closed windows, | 0:38:50 | 0:38:53 | |
all those little houses with all these little kitchens | 0:38:53 | 0:38:56 | |
and a lot of this lovely food that comes from the countryside, | 0:38:56 | 0:38:59 | |
from the connections. | 0:38:59 | 0:39:00 | |
And they have... The market is very alive. | 0:39:00 | 0:39:02 | |
This is the spirits of Rome, | 0:39:02 | 0:39:05 | |
is within these people. | 0:39:05 | 0:39:07 | |
-Yeah. -You know, everything comes and goes in this city, | 0:39:07 | 0:39:09 | |
everything gets buried, | 0:39:09 | 0:39:10 | |
it's just the people who stays on top. | 0:39:10 | 0:39:12 | |
It's unusual, pretty amazing, really, | 0:39:16 | 0:39:18 | |
to see a fully working community, | 0:39:18 | 0:39:21 | |
almost like a village, right in the middle of the 21st-century city. | 0:39:21 | 0:39:25 | |
Garbatella, bella, Andrew. | 0:39:30 | 0:39:32 | |
If I had to live somewhere in Rome, | 0:39:32 | 0:39:34 | |
I would love to live in Garbatella. | 0:39:34 | 0:39:37 | |
I think it fits my style. | 0:39:37 | 0:39:39 | |
Yeah, I can see you, just in your vest, like, cooking outside, maybe. | 0:39:41 | 0:39:45 | |
Now we're going back onto the cobbles. | 0:39:47 | 0:39:49 | |
Uh-uh-uh-uh-uh... | 0:39:49 | 0:39:51 | |
You can feel the ancient power of the people all over Rome, | 0:39:58 | 0:40:02 | |
even in some unlikely places... | 0:40:02 | 0:40:04 | |
..such as the palaces of the richest noble families. | 0:40:05 | 0:40:08 | |
Because they knew just how hard it was to rule in this fickle town, | 0:40:10 | 0:40:14 | |
they built their palazzi-like fortresses to keep the mob at bay. | 0:40:14 | 0:40:19 | |
And none was more fortress-like than the stunning Palazzo Farnese. | 0:40:20 | 0:40:25 | |
-Palazzo Farnese. -What a palace, eh? | 0:40:25 | 0:40:27 | |
It's got 40 windows just on the front. Amazing. | 0:40:27 | 0:40:31 | |
The Farnese family was one of the great forces in Rome | 0:40:37 | 0:40:41 | |
from the 15th to the 18th century. | 0:40:41 | 0:40:43 | |
Many military commanders and cardinals, | 0:40:44 | 0:40:47 | |
two popes and the Queen of Spain | 0:40:47 | 0:40:49 | |
can be found in their family tree. | 0:40:49 | 0:40:51 | |
And thanks to their huge riches, | 0:40:56 | 0:40:57 | |
the family constructed the most magnificent | 0:40:57 | 0:41:00 | |
high Renaissance dwelling in all of Rome, | 0:41:00 | 0:41:03 | |
designed by Antonio da Sangallo the Younger, | 0:41:03 | 0:41:06 | |
and a chap called Michelangelo. | 0:41:06 | 0:41:08 | |
I'm taking Giorgio to see one particular room | 0:41:12 | 0:41:15 | |
with a truly amazing series of frescoes by Annibale Carracci... | 0:41:15 | 0:41:19 | |
..the same artist Caravaggio had mocked with the rear end of a horse. | 0:41:22 | 0:41:26 | |
Here, Carracci was on top form. | 0:41:26 | 0:41:29 | |
Look at this, the sun has come to greet us. | 0:41:30 | 0:41:33 | |
Now, don't look up, that's the only rule. | 0:41:33 | 0:41:35 | |
-OK. -You can look at the garden. | 0:41:35 | 0:41:37 | |
Wow. And we're right in the middle of the row. | 0:41:37 | 0:41:39 | |
In the middle of the row. | 0:41:39 | 0:41:41 | |
OK, now we're going to do it. | 0:41:41 | 0:41:43 | |
OK? OK. | 0:41:43 | 0:41:45 | |
Uno, due... | 0:41:45 | 0:41:48 | |
Three. | 0:41:48 | 0:41:50 | |
Wow! | 0:41:54 | 0:41:56 | |
Look at that! Look at that. | 0:41:57 | 0:41:59 | |
Started 1597, finished 1608. | 0:42:09 | 0:42:13 | |
11 years in the making. | 0:42:13 | 0:42:16 | |
And the theme of the whole thing... | 0:42:18 | 0:42:21 | |
# ..the power of love | 0:42:24 | 0:42:27 | |
# A force from above. # | 0:42:27 | 0:42:30 | |
Really! That is the subject! | 0:42:31 | 0:42:33 | |
You've got Diana falling in love, | 0:42:42 | 0:42:45 | |
despite her vows of chastity, | 0:42:45 | 0:42:47 | |
falling in love with the shepherd Endymion, sleeping muscle man. | 0:42:47 | 0:42:52 | |
You've got the abduction of Galatea, | 0:42:53 | 0:42:57 | |
you've got Jupiter and Juno. | 0:42:57 | 0:43:01 | |
We've got Bacchus and Ariadne. | 0:43:01 | 0:43:04 | |
And here he is, in his golden carriage drawn by tigers... | 0:43:04 | 0:43:10 | |
..with rams, symbols of sex and lust. | 0:43:10 | 0:43:13 | |
It's almost too much, isn't it? | 0:43:14 | 0:43:16 | |
It really, like, is incredible. | 0:43:16 | 0:43:19 | |
The figure of the lady is so beautiful, rounded and beautiful. | 0:43:19 | 0:43:24 | |
They're not the model of the modern supermodel, let's put it that way. | 0:43:24 | 0:43:27 | |
-That's for sure. -They're not skin and bones. | 0:43:27 | 0:43:29 | |
But they're much more beautiful. | 0:43:29 | 0:43:31 | |
It's quite a thing. | 0:43:31 | 0:43:32 | |
And it was all commissioned by a cardinal. | 0:43:32 | 0:43:36 | |
Odoardo Farnese. | 0:43:36 | 0:43:37 | |
Why would a cardinal have something like that in his house? | 0:43:37 | 0:43:41 | |
Well, actually, in the Renaissance, they weren't prudish. | 0:43:41 | 0:43:45 | |
There was a tradition of noble families commissioning, | 0:43:45 | 0:43:49 | |
usually on the occasion of a marriage, | 0:43:49 | 0:43:52 | |
quite sexy, secular images. | 0:43:52 | 0:43:56 | |
Almost like encouragements to procreation. | 0:43:56 | 0:43:58 | |
This is a message from the cardinal to all of his children. | 0:43:58 | 0:44:01 | |
Right. "This is how you do it, just get on with it." | 0:44:01 | 0:44:03 | |
Isn't it? It sounds a little bit like that, doesn't it? | 0:44:05 | 0:44:09 | |
Yes, I don't know what that is in Latin, but... | 0:44:09 | 0:44:13 | |
I think what the room as a whole is saying is, "That for us as a dynasty | 0:44:13 | 0:44:18 | |
"to uphold our power, we must breed." | 0:44:18 | 0:44:21 | |
And something really neat, look at this. | 0:44:24 | 0:44:26 | |
This is thanks to the French, actually, | 0:44:26 | 0:44:28 | |
who've had this as their embassy for so long, | 0:44:28 | 0:44:30 | |
they cleaned this room, | 0:44:30 | 0:44:32 | |
and look what they found. | 0:44:32 | 0:44:33 | |
Carracci had actually left some of his sketches. | 0:44:33 | 0:44:36 | |
So when he was making the ceiling, | 0:44:36 | 0:44:38 | |
he was actually doing these little sketches. | 0:44:38 | 0:44:41 | |
There's actually quite a sad postscript | 0:44:41 | 0:44:44 | |
to the story of this amazing masterpiece. | 0:44:44 | 0:44:47 | |
They cardinal, for whatever reason... | 0:44:47 | 0:44:49 | |
..was a really mean guy, | 0:44:50 | 0:44:52 | |
so when Carracci finished and finally asked for his payment... | 0:44:52 | 0:44:55 | |
..the cardinal got his accountant to do all the sums, | 0:44:57 | 0:45:00 | |
and he said, "Well, "you've been living in the Palace for 11 years, | 0:45:00 | 0:45:04 | |
"so we're going to charge you for the board and lodging. | 0:45:04 | 0:45:07 | |
"So, we're going to pay you £100,000 for doing the picture, | 0:45:07 | 0:45:10 | |
"but we're going to deduct £99,500 | 0:45:10 | 0:45:14 | |
-"because you've been staying in the Palace." -No way. | 0:45:14 | 0:45:16 | |
Really. They paid him 500 scudi for 11 years' work. | 0:45:16 | 0:45:21 | |
Carracci was so upset, he just falls into this terrible depression, | 0:45:21 | 0:45:26 | |
and then that's the end of him. | 0:45:26 | 0:45:28 | |
He dies, basically, of a broken heart... | 0:45:28 | 0:45:30 | |
..for not being paid. Maybe you should have been his agent, Giorgio. | 0:45:30 | 0:45:35 | |
I could have definitely been his chef. | 0:45:35 | 0:45:37 | |
The paintings would have been even better! | 0:45:38 | 0:45:40 | |
Eventually, you could say, justice was served. | 0:45:44 | 0:45:47 | |
The family extinguished in 1731 | 0:45:47 | 0:45:49 | |
when the last duke, Antonio Farnese, | 0:45:49 | 0:45:52 | |
died without direct heirs. | 0:45:52 | 0:45:55 | |
The Palace has been the French embassy for the last 81 years, | 0:45:55 | 0:45:58 | |
keeping Carracci's masterpiece a bit of a secret. | 0:45:58 | 0:46:02 | |
But now the doors are open once a week, | 0:46:02 | 0:46:04 | |
and he is gradually being rediscovered. | 0:46:04 | 0:46:07 | |
We really have to have some lunch now, so after the power of love, | 0:46:07 | 0:46:12 | |
I want to remind Andrew of the power of pasta. | 0:46:12 | 0:46:15 | |
This is one of the classics. | 0:46:15 | 0:46:18 | |
You're going to learn how to make a carbonara. | 0:46:18 | 0:46:20 | |
A real carbonara, Andrew. | 0:46:20 | 0:46:22 | |
We are heading to Roscioli, | 0:46:23 | 0:46:24 | |
a small restaurant that's been in the same family | 0:46:24 | 0:46:27 | |
for four generations. | 0:46:27 | 0:46:29 | |
Nabil, the cook, is waiting for us. | 0:46:30 | 0:46:33 | |
-This is Nabil. -Salve, Nabil. | 0:46:33 | 0:46:35 | |
Nabil cooks the best carbonara in the world, | 0:46:35 | 0:46:38 | |
I'm telling you. | 0:46:38 | 0:46:40 | |
So, what makes the Roman carbonara different | 0:46:40 | 0:46:43 | |
from the one that we might eat in a restaurant in London? | 0:46:43 | 0:46:47 | |
That. | 0:46:48 | 0:46:50 | |
GIORGIO AND NABIL DISCUSS INGREDIENTS IN ITALIAN | 0:46:50 | 0:46:53 | |
You don't use any belly, | 0:46:53 | 0:46:55 | |
you use the cheek, | 0:46:55 | 0:46:56 | |
the end of the cheek and the neck. | 0:46:56 | 0:46:58 | |
And when you give a recipe with bacon, you make a big mistake, | 0:46:58 | 0:47:01 | |
because the consistency of this | 0:47:01 | 0:47:02 | |
when it's cooked is a completely different one | 0:47:02 | 0:47:05 | |
than the bacon would be. | 0:47:05 | 0:47:06 | |
So, rule number one, never cook a carbonara with bacon. | 0:47:06 | 0:47:10 | |
I think a lot of people would be quite surprised by that. | 0:47:10 | 0:47:12 | |
Rule number one. No bacon, no pancetta. | 0:47:12 | 0:47:15 | |
The spaghetti are the main ingredient, obviously. | 0:47:15 | 0:47:17 | |
They've been dried, you know, like that. | 0:47:17 | 0:47:20 | |
So they are just going to cross. | 0:47:20 | 0:47:22 | |
But touch the spaghetti. | 0:47:22 | 0:47:24 | |
They're rough. Can you feel the roughness of that? | 0:47:24 | 0:47:26 | |
Oh, yeah, yeah. | 0:47:26 | 0:47:28 | |
Trafilatura al bronzo. | 0:47:28 | 0:47:29 | |
That means the sauce, which is kind of, like the eggs, | 0:47:29 | 0:47:33 | |
is cooked and kind of a bit creamy, it will stick to it. | 0:47:33 | 0:47:36 | |
A really hot pan. | 0:47:39 | 0:47:41 | |
No oil, nothing. | 0:47:41 | 0:47:44 | |
Just the guanciale in it. | 0:47:44 | 0:47:46 | |
-You see, it is screaming already. -Yeah. | 0:47:46 | 0:47:51 | |
OK, very crispy on the outside and really tender inside, | 0:47:51 | 0:47:55 | |
and when you bite into that, you have an explosion, | 0:47:55 | 0:47:58 | |
an explosion of flavour in your mouth. | 0:47:58 | 0:48:00 | |
Alora. | 0:48:03 | 0:48:04 | |
Turning the spaghetti, very important, don't let them lie down. | 0:48:04 | 0:48:09 | |
Yes. He is going to prepare the eggs now. | 0:48:09 | 0:48:12 | |
OK, the base. | 0:48:12 | 0:48:14 | |
One egg yolk, and then a little bit of egg white, | 0:48:18 | 0:48:21 | |
because it becomes more foamy if he does that. | 0:48:21 | 0:48:24 | |
Beautiful eggs as well. | 0:48:24 | 0:48:26 | |
Parmesan and Pecorino mixed together. | 0:48:28 | 0:48:30 | |
Two nice pinch, pepper. | 0:48:31 | 0:48:34 | |
They love pepper in Rome. | 0:48:35 | 0:48:36 | |
-Very important. -Toasted Sarawak pepper. | 0:48:36 | 0:48:38 | |
That is so important. | 0:48:38 | 0:48:39 | |
That is the base. | 0:48:41 | 0:48:42 | |
-OK? -So no garlic, no bacon? | 0:48:43 | 0:48:46 | |
No! Are you crazy? | 0:48:46 | 0:48:48 | |
Don't start to do the American way. | 0:48:48 | 0:48:50 | |
Do not think about putting too many things in it. | 0:48:50 | 0:48:52 | |
It is very essential, it is very clean, it is very neat. | 0:48:52 | 0:48:56 | |
He judges the pasta just with the eye? | 0:48:58 | 0:49:00 | |
Just by looking at it. | 0:49:00 | 0:49:01 | |
He just looks at the pasta, | 0:49:01 | 0:49:02 | |
he doesn't need a timer or anything like that. | 0:49:02 | 0:49:05 | |
Look what he's doing now. | 0:49:06 | 0:49:07 | |
OK. | 0:49:07 | 0:49:09 | |
A little bit of the guanciale in. | 0:49:09 | 0:49:12 | |
A little bit of the fat. | 0:49:14 | 0:49:16 | |
Yeah. | 0:49:16 | 0:49:17 | |
A little bit of that. | 0:49:17 | 0:49:19 | |
Water and the fat that is going to make it creamy. | 0:49:22 | 0:49:25 | |
Rule three. No cream! | 0:49:25 | 0:49:27 | |
No cream. And as the spaghetti goes in, a little bit wet, you see? | 0:49:27 | 0:49:32 | |
He left them a little bit wet. | 0:49:32 | 0:49:34 | |
Yeah. | 0:49:34 | 0:49:35 | |
This is vital, you see? | 0:49:38 | 0:49:39 | |
The cooking water, which already got salt. | 0:49:39 | 0:49:42 | |
Do you notice we have not seasoned anything? | 0:49:42 | 0:49:44 | |
Look, look what he's doing. | 0:49:44 | 0:49:46 | |
So he knows now by touching the edge, | 0:49:46 | 0:49:49 | |
he knows now the eggs is creamy and is cooked. | 0:49:49 | 0:49:52 | |
-Beautiful. -A bit of cheese around and a little bit of pepper on top. | 0:49:55 | 0:50:00 | |
Wow. Wow. That looks... | 0:50:00 | 0:50:02 | |
-Carbonara di Roscioli. -Grazie. | 0:50:05 | 0:50:07 | |
Wow, that looks... | 0:50:15 | 0:50:18 | |
I am not leaving this here. | 0:50:25 | 0:50:26 | |
He is not going to let me have any. | 0:50:26 | 0:50:28 | |
You must try to convey to everybody the flavour here, | 0:50:28 | 0:50:32 | |
that really hint of pepper, | 0:50:32 | 0:50:34 | |
the cheese and the creaminess of the eggs, | 0:50:34 | 0:50:37 | |
almost like a fluid mayonnaise or a Bearnaise or a Hollandaise... | 0:50:37 | 0:50:41 | |
That's what you are trying to do. | 0:50:41 | 0:50:44 | |
And then this absolute explosion of | 0:50:44 | 0:50:47 | |
almost like a farmyard taste, | 0:50:47 | 0:50:49 | |
that explosion of the guanciale. | 0:50:49 | 0:50:52 | |
Unbelievable. | 0:50:52 | 0:50:53 | |
Buonissimo. | 0:50:53 | 0:50:55 | |
-Grazie. -Grazie. | 0:50:55 | 0:50:58 | |
This was a masterclass on carbonara. | 0:50:59 | 0:51:01 | |
It was just! | 0:51:01 | 0:51:03 | |
Thank you. | 0:51:03 | 0:51:05 | |
You know, Giorgio, | 0:51:15 | 0:51:16 | |
if you give me one more plate of pasta, | 0:51:16 | 0:51:18 | |
we are going to have to buy a bigger motorbike. | 0:51:18 | 0:51:20 | |
We are going to finish our journey in modern Rome, | 0:51:27 | 0:51:30 | |
the Rome of the 20th century. | 0:51:30 | 0:51:32 | |
The most famous Italian dictator in living memory | 0:51:34 | 0:51:37 | |
was Benito Mussolini... | 0:51:37 | 0:51:39 | |
..a man whose granite jaw and megaphone rhetoric | 0:51:40 | 0:51:44 | |
was only matched by his severe architecture. | 0:51:44 | 0:51:46 | |
You can still see his buildings all over Rome, | 0:51:49 | 0:51:51 | |
buildings that shouted at the Italian people, | 0:51:51 | 0:51:54 | |
telling them to work harder, | 0:51:54 | 0:51:56 | |
to be on time, | 0:51:56 | 0:51:57 | |
to leave the past behind and go to war. | 0:51:57 | 0:52:00 | |
But in this great city of the people, Mussolini had his opponents, | 0:52:05 | 0:52:09 | |
even if their voices weren't always heard. | 0:52:09 | 0:52:11 | |
For proof of that, I am taking Giorgio to | 0:52:13 | 0:52:15 | |
the Gallery of Modern Art where | 0:52:15 | 0:52:17 | |
they have some of my favourite works of art from the dark, fascist years. | 0:52:17 | 0:52:21 | |
Here, we can still see another side of Rome, | 0:52:34 | 0:52:38 | |
the one that never submitted to fascism and Mussolini. | 0:52:38 | 0:52:42 | |
Look at this figure - | 0:52:47 | 0:52:49 | |
Attilio Torresini's sculpture called Riposo, At Rest, | 0:52:49 | 0:52:53 | |
but she looks almost as if she might be eavesdropping on us. | 0:52:53 | 0:52:57 | |
She looks so... | 0:52:57 | 0:52:59 | |
..beautiful and so unsexualised, but beautiful. | 0:52:59 | 0:53:03 | |
And something slightly sad about her, I think. | 0:53:04 | 0:53:06 | |
I think there's an air of melancholy. | 0:53:06 | 0:53:09 | |
You think it is melancholic? | 0:53:09 | 0:53:10 | |
Maybe I am reading that in. | 0:53:10 | 0:53:12 | |
I mean, I know that the sculpture was made in 1939. | 0:53:12 | 0:53:15 | |
So I just have this feeling that | 0:53:15 | 0:53:17 | |
maybe there's the intimations of war, there is some sense of... | 0:53:17 | 0:53:20 | |
That is a beautiful Italian girl. | 0:53:20 | 0:53:22 | |
..trouble ahead. | 0:53:22 | 0:53:24 | |
Well, if we're talking melancholy, | 0:53:24 | 0:53:26 | |
vieni con me cos one of | 0:53:26 | 0:53:29 | |
the masterpieces of Italian melancholy is in the next room. | 0:53:29 | 0:53:33 | |
This is what has been arranged for us, | 0:53:39 | 0:53:41 | |
a private screening of the masterpiece of Massimo Campigli | 0:53:41 | 0:53:47 | |
and it's just a wonderful... | 0:53:47 | 0:53:48 | |
-So we can sit down? -We can sit down. | 0:53:48 | 0:53:50 | |
The film has started already. | 0:53:50 | 0:53:52 | |
It is called The Fishermen's Wives. | 0:53:52 | 0:53:56 | |
It is an oil painting, | 0:53:56 | 0:53:58 | |
but it is a bit like a fresco. | 0:53:58 | 0:53:59 | |
The forms are very simple, | 0:53:59 | 0:54:01 | |
they are very solemn, they are very monumental. | 0:54:01 | 0:54:04 | |
There is something of the solemnity of a religious painting. | 0:54:04 | 0:54:07 | |
These women are waiting. | 0:54:07 | 0:54:09 | |
You see, there they are on the left, | 0:54:09 | 0:54:11 | |
they are just holding each other. | 0:54:11 | 0:54:13 | |
The picture was painted in 1935, | 0:54:17 | 0:54:19 | |
so, again, fascism was at its height. | 0:54:19 | 0:54:22 | |
What could be less fascist than this? | 0:54:22 | 0:54:26 | |
-Beautiful picture. -So the sorrow of the person who loses their husband, | 0:54:28 | 0:54:33 | |
it is almost like saying, "Don't allow your kids to go to war. | 0:54:33 | 0:54:37 | |
"They never come back." | 0:54:37 | 0:54:39 | |
I think this is why this is a painting | 0:54:39 | 0:54:41 | |
that once you start looking at it, it does catch in your throat. | 0:54:41 | 0:54:44 | |
And I think, I mean, are those the colours of Italy in the middle? | 0:54:44 | 0:54:48 | |
-Are those the colours of...? -Well, there is a bit of green, | 0:54:48 | 0:54:50 | |
there is some red, there is some white. | 0:54:50 | 0:54:53 | |
He enlisted, in the First World War in 1916, | 0:54:53 | 0:54:56 | |
but then during the war and immediately after the war, | 0:54:56 | 0:54:59 | |
he was so horrified by all of that | 0:54:59 | 0:55:01 | |
he said, "I am now forever going to be a pacifist." | 0:55:01 | 0:55:04 | |
But I think it is important to look at these artists | 0:55:04 | 0:55:07 | |
because, as so often in history, | 0:55:07 | 0:55:09 | |
the people who make the most noise, | 0:55:09 | 0:55:11 | |
and the future is with Marinetti as their spokesman banging his drum, | 0:55:11 | 0:55:14 | |
and Mussolini with his megaphone, | 0:55:14 | 0:55:16 | |
everybody knows about them, | 0:55:16 | 0:55:18 | |
but nobody knows about these artists. | 0:55:18 | 0:55:21 | |
It is a much quieter voice, | 0:55:21 | 0:55:22 | |
but it is the voice of conscience. | 0:55:22 | 0:55:24 | |
I think it is a truthful voice. | 0:55:24 | 0:55:26 | |
You know, it makes me think, | 0:55:26 | 0:55:27 | |
what could have been if there was more people like him? | 0:55:27 | 0:55:30 | |
It would have never happened, that Second World War, | 0:55:30 | 0:55:33 | |
they would have never did what they did to each other. | 0:55:33 | 0:55:36 | |
It was just terrible. | 0:55:36 | 0:55:37 | |
And these guys were absolutely right. | 0:55:37 | 0:55:39 | |
Maybe in the end, | 0:55:43 | 0:55:44 | |
that is what artists are for. | 0:55:44 | 0:55:46 | |
-To make... -To see what we don't see. | 0:55:46 | 0:55:50 | |
Si. | 0:55:50 | 0:55:51 | |
We are at the end of our journey | 0:55:59 | 0:56:01 | |
through a city that is defined by its people. | 0:56:01 | 0:56:04 | |
So where better to finish than with a work of public art? | 0:56:04 | 0:56:08 | |
Proclaiming the eternal might of Rome | 0:56:08 | 0:56:10 | |
on the wall of a modern building. | 0:56:10 | 0:56:13 | |
Look what they have put on the side of the apartment block, | 0:56:13 | 0:56:17 | |
this huge, fantastic, I think, mural of a wolf, the symbol of Rome. | 0:56:17 | 0:56:22 | |
It is unbelievable. | 0:56:22 | 0:56:25 | |
It is so real, isn't it? | 0:56:25 | 0:56:26 | |
You can almost hear it snarling. | 0:56:26 | 0:56:29 | |
I love the hairs and I love it when the evening sun catches it, | 0:56:29 | 0:56:33 | |
the wolf is there and this ordinary building suddenly becomes, wow! | 0:56:33 | 0:56:38 | |
What things did you like the best of the things that we saw on this trip? | 0:56:38 | 0:56:43 | |
The Caravaggio? | 0:56:43 | 0:56:45 | |
Well, those ones were unforgettable, man. | 0:56:45 | 0:56:48 | |
And that St Paul... | 0:56:48 | 0:56:52 | |
..and the story of the asses, | 0:56:52 | 0:56:54 | |
everybody showed their ass to each other, that was fantastic. | 0:56:54 | 0:56:58 | |
Another popular thing that I really liked about was the Garbatella. | 0:56:58 | 0:57:01 | |
-Oh! -That was so beautiful. | 0:57:01 | 0:57:03 | |
I remember also, the crunch of the guanciale in the carbonara, | 0:57:03 | 0:57:10 | |
the perfect carbonara. | 0:57:10 | 0:57:11 | |
If you were going to feed that wolf anything, | 0:57:11 | 0:57:14 | |
you would give him a really big piece of that guanciale. | 0:57:14 | 0:57:17 | |
This is the wolf of the people, | 0:57:18 | 0:57:20 | |
aggressive and opinionated | 0:57:20 | 0:57:24 | |
and Roman to the core. | 0:57:24 | 0:57:27 | |
I like that kind of Rome, | 0:57:27 | 0:57:28 | |
I like Rome that stays alive through the people. | 0:57:28 | 0:57:31 | |
And, you know, the Pope comes and change, | 0:57:31 | 0:57:33 | |
and the President comes and change, the King comes and change, | 0:57:33 | 0:57:36 | |
but the people of Rome, are still the people of Rome. | 0:57:36 | 0:57:38 | |
They are the one who rules. | 0:57:40 | 0:57:42 | |
-They really are. -You remember that one? | 0:57:42 | 0:57:44 | |
SPQR. | 0:57:44 | 0:57:45 | |
Senatus Populusque Romanus. | 0:57:45 | 0:57:49 | |
I think it is dinner time. | 0:57:51 | 0:57:53 | |
And you know, in Rome, dinner is always quite good, isn't it? | 0:57:53 | 0:57:56 | |
Not bad. Not bad. | 0:57:56 | 0:57:57 | |
Next time, we uncover more of the hidden Rome. | 0:58:00 | 0:58:04 | |
If you look in the middle, staring out at us, | 0:58:04 | 0:58:07 | |
a painting of the first century AD, | 0:58:07 | 0:58:09 | |
and there are not many of those. | 0:58:09 | 0:58:11 | |
So this is a kidney sandwich. | 0:58:11 | 0:58:13 | |
We try centuries-old traditions. | 0:58:13 | 0:58:17 | |
-Oh, mamma mia. -We tasted Roman-ity. | 0:58:17 | 0:58:20 | |
And we pay a visit to one of Rome's greatest art collections. | 0:58:22 | 0:58:26 | |
Not a bad room to have a party in. | 0:58:26 | 0:58:30 | |
The Open University has produced a free guide to interesting places | 0:58:30 | 0:58:34 | |
to visit while you are in Rome. | 0:58:34 | 0:58:35 | |
To order your free copy, please call... | 0:58:35 | 0:58:38 | |
Or go to the website... | 0:58:41 | 0:58:43 | |
..and follow the link to the Open University. | 0:58:47 | 0:58:50 |