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Hi, I'm Andrew Graham-Dixon, and I'm an art historian. | 0:00:03 | 0:00:06 | |
These ancient roads are slightly bumpy. | 0:00:07 | 0:00:09 | |
Calma, calma. | 0:00:09 | 0:00:11 | |
And I'm Giorgio Locatelli, and I'm a cook. | 0:00:11 | 0:00:14 | |
We've been all over Italy revealing gastronomic and artistic treasures. | 0:00:15 | 0:00:20 | |
But now we've come to its beating heart - Rome. | 0:00:21 | 0:00:25 | |
It's a 2,000-year-old metropolis where past and present collide. | 0:00:28 | 0:00:34 | |
It's as unique for an art lover... | 0:00:34 | 0:00:36 | |
Staring out at us. | 0:00:36 | 0:00:38 | |
A painting of the first century AD, and there are not many of those. | 0:00:38 | 0:00:42 | |
As it is for a food lover... | 0:00:42 | 0:00:45 | |
Cuisine that has its backbone on necessity, | 0:00:45 | 0:00:48 | |
that's the cuisine that survives! | 0:00:48 | 0:00:50 | |
We will taste traditional recipes beloved by the Romans. | 0:00:50 | 0:00:55 | |
Oh, mamma mia! | 0:00:55 | 0:00:57 | |
How good is that? | 0:00:57 | 0:00:58 | |
And we'll plunge our forks into the cultures that have shaped the city. | 0:00:58 | 0:01:02 | |
The whole world is cowering in awe of this symbol of papal power. | 0:01:02 | 0:01:09 | |
HORN TOOTS | 0:01:09 | 0:01:10 | |
We'll explore Rome's greatest works of art and architecture. | 0:01:10 | 0:01:14 | |
Not a bad room to have a party in. | 0:01:14 | 0:01:17 | |
Full of light... | 0:01:17 | 0:01:19 | |
..but also, sometimes, darkness. | 0:01:21 | 0:01:23 | |
Unbelievable. | 0:01:23 | 0:01:25 | |
I actually can hear him screaming. | 0:01:25 | 0:01:28 | |
HORN TOOTS | 0:01:42 | 0:01:43 | |
Sorry, scooter! | 0:01:45 | 0:01:48 | |
-HORN BLARES -Calma, calma. | 0:01:52 | 0:01:54 | |
GIORGIO CHUCKLES | 0:01:56 | 0:01:58 | |
Rome is like a giant time machine, | 0:01:58 | 0:02:02 | |
where treasures from over 2,000 years of history have been preserved | 0:02:02 | 0:02:06 | |
in the many layers of the city. | 0:02:06 | 0:02:09 | |
Ah, look! Look at this! | 0:02:09 | 0:02:10 | |
Look at this, what I got for you, Andrew. | 0:02:10 | 0:02:12 | |
Wow! Never fail to be amazed by that. Never fails. | 0:02:13 | 0:02:18 | |
Every great work of art in Rome, every great recipe, | 0:02:20 | 0:02:23 | |
has deep roots in the past. | 0:02:23 | 0:02:26 | |
That's why, to appreciate the richness of this city, | 0:02:26 | 0:02:29 | |
you have to dig beneath its surface, | 0:02:29 | 0:02:32 | |
to play the part of the archaeologist. | 0:02:32 | 0:02:35 | |
All these Roman walls are enormous on the left, aren't they? | 0:02:35 | 0:02:37 | |
Believe it or not. | 0:02:37 | 0:02:39 | |
And there isn't a better place to start our journey through the | 0:02:40 | 0:02:43 | |
many layers of Rome's history than here. | 0:02:43 | 0:02:45 | |
Just a couple of hundred yards from the Colosseum. | 0:02:46 | 0:02:49 | |
OK, Andrew. | 0:02:51 | 0:02:52 | |
So, here we are. | 0:02:53 | 0:02:55 | |
I love this place. The church of San Clemente. | 0:02:56 | 0:02:58 | |
Here in Rome, we really are surrounded by history, | 0:03:00 | 0:03:05 | |
2,000 years of it. | 0:03:05 | 0:03:06 | |
It's become a cliche to say that, | 0:03:06 | 0:03:08 | |
but what I really love about the city is the different textures | 0:03:08 | 0:03:11 | |
of history that you get here. | 0:03:11 | 0:03:13 | |
And that's why I think this is a great first stop, San Clemente. | 0:03:13 | 0:03:16 | |
It's a Christian church erected in the Middle Ages on the | 0:03:16 | 0:03:20 | |
ruins of Roman pagan antiquity. | 0:03:20 | 0:03:23 | |
It's like a vertical time machine. | 0:03:23 | 0:03:25 | |
You can travel down, down, down, down, down, | 0:03:25 | 0:03:27 | |
and right at the bottom there's this fantastic unexpected human story, | 0:03:27 | 0:03:31 | |
but I'm not going to tell you what it is. | 0:03:31 | 0:03:33 | |
-Let's go and have a look, then. -Andiamo. | 0:03:33 | 0:03:35 | |
Wow. | 0:03:40 | 0:03:41 | |
This is just one of the most beautiful churches in Rome. | 0:03:41 | 0:03:45 | |
Look at this beautiful apse mosaic of Christ on the cross | 0:03:45 | 0:03:50 | |
representing the tree of life. | 0:03:50 | 0:03:52 | |
Beneath, you have Mary and John. | 0:03:52 | 0:03:54 | |
Look at the delicacy of his loincloth, | 0:03:54 | 0:03:56 | |
that gold structure in mosaic. | 0:03:56 | 0:04:00 | |
-The leaf looks like they are artichoke leaves. -They maybe are. | 0:04:00 | 0:04:04 | |
That could be a Roman touch. | 0:04:04 | 0:04:05 | |
-Incredibly beautiful. -So that, I may say, is probably | 0:04:08 | 0:04:12 | |
50 or 60 years work. | 0:04:12 | 0:04:14 | |
This is a very important church, | 0:04:14 | 0:04:16 | |
because interred here were the remains of Pope Clement. | 0:04:16 | 0:04:19 | |
-Yeah. -I think he's the third Pope after Peter. -Yes. | 0:04:19 | 0:04:22 | |
So it's filled with Christian significance. | 0:04:22 | 0:04:26 | |
But it's also, once you get your eye in and you look around, | 0:04:26 | 0:04:29 | |
it's a spectacular demonstration of the way in which buildings in Rome | 0:04:29 | 0:04:33 | |
have evolved over centuries of history. | 0:04:33 | 0:04:34 | |
So, it's such a mishmash. You've got these ancient Roman columns. | 0:04:34 | 0:04:39 | |
They don't match each other, | 0:04:39 | 0:04:41 | |
they obviously just used what they could find to make that basilica. | 0:04:41 | 0:04:45 | |
-Of course, they're all different! -They're all different. | 0:04:45 | 0:04:48 | |
And then all of this rectangle of stone, | 0:04:48 | 0:04:51 | |
this amazing marble choir gallery, | 0:04:51 | 0:04:54 | |
was actually made in 536. | 0:04:54 | 0:04:57 | |
-Wow... -Sixth century. | 0:04:57 | 0:05:00 | |
Like, 600 years before the church. | 0:05:00 | 0:05:03 | |
Exactly. | 0:05:03 | 0:05:04 | |
Over there you've got something that takes us back to the early | 0:05:04 | 0:05:08 | |
15th century, some early Renaissance frescos by Masolino. | 0:05:08 | 0:05:12 | |
Over there you've got a beautiful Renaissance tomb memorial | 0:05:12 | 0:05:16 | |
-to one of the Popes. -OK. | 0:05:16 | 0:05:18 | |
And then above, you've got this extraordinary Baroque ceiling, | 0:05:18 | 0:05:23 | |
you know, from the 17th-18th century. | 0:05:23 | 0:05:26 | |
So, you've got all these different levels of history | 0:05:26 | 0:05:29 | |
-just in this one building. -Yes, yeah. | 0:05:29 | 0:05:31 | |
But I'm going to have to take you actually downstairs, | 0:05:31 | 0:05:34 | |
-because we can explore what lies beneath here. -Beneath. | 0:05:34 | 0:05:38 | |
We are going down into the distant past! | 0:05:38 | 0:05:42 | |
All of the Rome we see today is built on top of the other | 0:05:43 | 0:05:46 | |
much older Romes. | 0:05:46 | 0:05:48 | |
Wow, it's incredible! | 0:05:48 | 0:05:50 | |
In 1857, the prior of San Clemente, Friar Joseph Mullooly, | 0:05:51 | 0:05:56 | |
uncovered the remains of a Christian church beneath the existing one, | 0:05:56 | 0:06:00 | |
dating back all the way to the fourth century. | 0:06:00 | 0:06:03 | |
Very little survives of the original church, just a few frescos. | 0:06:04 | 0:06:08 | |
Frescos depicting New Testament scenes and the life of San Clemente. | 0:06:08 | 0:06:13 | |
But there's yet another lower layer that takes you back to a Rome | 0:06:13 | 0:06:17 | |
400 years older even than that. | 0:06:17 | 0:06:20 | |
We're going down into ancient Rome itself. | 0:06:21 | 0:06:24 | |
You have to imagine, it's the time of Nero. | 0:06:24 | 0:06:27 | |
Nero's fiddled, Rome's burned. | 0:06:27 | 0:06:29 | |
They've rebuilt vast areas of the city, including all these houses. | 0:06:29 | 0:06:33 | |
There's a rabbit warren of streets down here. | 0:06:33 | 0:06:35 | |
Archaeologists believe all this dates from roughly 70 AD, | 0:06:37 | 0:06:41 | |
just after Nero's death. | 0:06:41 | 0:06:43 | |
And in the basement of this house, look what we have. | 0:06:43 | 0:06:46 | |
-Look what we have. -Wow! | 0:06:47 | 0:06:49 | |
A subterranean chamber. | 0:06:51 | 0:06:53 | |
This is the cult of Mithras. | 0:06:55 | 0:06:57 | |
For a while, Mithraic cult was so strong and so powerful that it was | 0:06:57 | 0:07:03 | |
a rival to Christianity. | 0:07:03 | 0:07:04 | |
It had some of the same features as Christianity. | 0:07:04 | 0:07:06 | |
It had ceremonies involving wine and blood, | 0:07:06 | 0:07:10 | |
it had a central myth in which good triumphs over evil. | 0:07:10 | 0:07:14 | |
A man kills a bull. | 0:07:14 | 0:07:17 | |
Look at that agonized neck of the bull. | 0:07:17 | 0:07:19 | |
Come with me. This is a part that they've... | 0:07:20 | 0:07:23 | |
This is never open to the public, this part, | 0:07:23 | 0:07:25 | |
but they've let us go in. | 0:07:25 | 0:07:27 | |
They think that this was a schoolroom that was also part | 0:07:28 | 0:07:32 | |
of the Mithraic cult. | 0:07:32 | 0:07:34 | |
And if you bring your torch over here, if you look in the middle... | 0:07:34 | 0:07:38 | |
..they think that that might be the schoolteacher staring out at us. | 0:07:39 | 0:07:44 | |
A painting of the first century AD, and there are not many of those. | 0:07:46 | 0:07:51 | |
This is, like, what, 2,100 years old? | 0:07:51 | 0:07:54 | |
If he were still alive, yeah, | 0:07:54 | 0:07:55 | |
he'd be celebrating his 2,000th birthday pretty soon. | 0:07:55 | 0:07:58 | |
How amazing is that? GIORGIO CHUCKLES | 0:07:58 | 0:08:00 | |
TRANSLATION: | 0:08:01 | 0:08:02 | |
See, I always know when you like something | 0:08:05 | 0:08:07 | |
cos you start speaking in Italian. | 0:08:07 | 0:08:09 | |
I love it when a work of art puts you face to face with someone | 0:08:10 | 0:08:13 | |
from another world. | 0:08:13 | 0:08:15 | |
-And he just found it. -Wow! | 0:08:15 | 0:08:18 | |
I am completely... | 0:08:20 | 0:08:22 | |
Thank you, Andrew, this is such an incredible discovery, this place. | 0:08:22 | 0:08:27 | |
Isn't it? | 0:08:27 | 0:08:28 | |
I'm really glad you liked it. | 0:08:30 | 0:08:31 | |
OK, Andrew, I'm going to take you all along the Lungotevere! | 0:08:41 | 0:08:45 | |
See, now we're doing the Ponte Inglese. | 0:08:48 | 0:08:50 | |
They call it the Ponte Inglese because... | 0:08:50 | 0:08:53 | |
It's the only street in Rome where you drive on the left. | 0:08:53 | 0:08:55 | |
That's right. | 0:08:55 | 0:08:57 | |
I want to show Andrew a different type of archaeology. | 0:08:57 | 0:09:01 | |
The archaeology of food. | 0:09:01 | 0:09:03 | |
We are riding to the neighbourhood of Testaccio - | 0:09:03 | 0:09:06 | |
only 12 minutes away by scooter from San Clemente. | 0:09:06 | 0:09:09 | |
It's an area synonymous with food. | 0:09:11 | 0:09:14 | |
In ancient times, the district was home to the imperial port, | 0:09:14 | 0:09:18 | |
where the bulk of the Roman food supply was brought into the city. | 0:09:18 | 0:09:22 | |
It's a bit rough around the edges. | 0:09:23 | 0:09:25 | |
Where are you going to park? | 0:09:26 | 0:09:27 | |
In 1888, Testaccio was where the city authorities decided to build | 0:09:29 | 0:09:35 | |
Europe's largest municipal abattoir, | 0:09:35 | 0:09:37 | |
which would go on to shape Rome's culinary style. | 0:09:37 | 0:09:41 | |
So, where are we? | 0:09:43 | 0:09:45 | |
It's a slaughterhouse. | 0:09:45 | 0:09:46 | |
It's an enormous slaughterhouse. | 0:09:46 | 0:09:49 | |
It's a beautiful slaughterhouse. | 0:09:49 | 0:09:50 | |
You can see there's all these pens. | 0:09:50 | 0:09:52 | |
The animals would be brought in from the countryside, then, you know, | 0:09:52 | 0:09:56 | |
when it was the time they will be slaughtered | 0:09:56 | 0:09:58 | |
and then taken in to feed the population. | 0:09:58 | 0:10:02 | |
Between 1870 and 1901, | 0:10:02 | 0:10:06 | |
Rome's population doubled from a quarter of a million | 0:10:06 | 0:10:10 | |
to half a million. | 0:10:10 | 0:10:12 | |
With so many new mouths to feed, they needed meat. | 0:10:12 | 0:10:16 | |
And more of it than ever. | 0:10:16 | 0:10:18 | |
-But this is, this is amazing! -Look at this. | 0:10:19 | 0:10:22 | |
But this is like a city of death. | 0:10:22 | 0:10:24 | |
-It's even still got the signs. -Yeah. | 0:10:24 | 0:10:26 | |
They didn't only kill cows, they killed everything. | 0:10:26 | 0:10:28 | |
You know, the chickens, everything. | 0:10:28 | 0:10:30 | |
Any kind of animal was slaughtered round here. | 0:10:30 | 0:10:33 | |
But look at the architecture of it, it's like a temple. | 0:10:33 | 0:10:37 | |
I love this marriage of styles. | 0:10:37 | 0:10:40 | |
A classical pediment on a 19th century industrial slaughterhouse | 0:10:40 | 0:10:44 | |
made of bricks and iron. | 0:10:44 | 0:10:46 | |
I just can't believe it, we're in the middle of Rome and this hasn't | 0:10:46 | 0:10:49 | |
-been turned into apartment blocks or... -So, what happens is... | 0:10:49 | 0:10:53 | |
-..yuppie living. -The animal would be killed, the animal would be hanged, | 0:10:53 | 0:10:58 | |
and then they could move around. | 0:10:58 | 0:10:59 | |
Incredible. | 0:10:59 | 0:11:01 | |
In that space, I have to imagine, how many people? | 0:11:01 | 0:11:04 | |
It would be, like, 60-80 people all dirty of blood. | 0:11:04 | 0:11:08 | |
Here was kind of like a pulsating sort of part of the town, | 0:11:08 | 0:11:12 | |
because, you know, you know, | 0:11:12 | 0:11:14 | |
you can only have a really lively town if you feed them and you have | 0:11:14 | 0:11:17 | |
them healthy and they can work, and so-and-so. | 0:11:17 | 0:11:20 | |
So this was part of kind of, even if it was about death, it's about life. | 0:11:20 | 0:11:26 | |
It's amazing, this place. | 0:11:26 | 0:11:27 | |
The energy in that room. | 0:11:27 | 0:11:29 | |
I mean, Charles Dickens would've | 0:11:29 | 0:11:31 | |
written a whole novel about this place. | 0:11:31 | 0:11:33 | |
It's like Rome delivers this piece of history. | 0:11:33 | 0:11:37 | |
It's not like the history of politics or a history of, like, | 0:11:37 | 0:11:40 | |
with a name attached to it or a movement. | 0:11:40 | 0:11:43 | |
No, it's just part of actual real history. | 0:11:43 | 0:11:46 | |
So, Giorgio, how did this | 0:11:48 | 0:11:49 | |
-extraordinary place change the food of Rome? -OK. | 0:11:49 | 0:11:53 | |
So you got to think about the new and extremely rich people | 0:11:53 | 0:11:57 | |
and powerful people that ran this beautiful house, | 0:11:57 | 0:11:59 | |
and they have, like, hundreds of people who serve and work in it. | 0:11:59 | 0:12:02 | |
So they would send the cooks down to the market. | 0:12:02 | 0:12:05 | |
The cooks would come down and buy a quarter of the animal. | 0:12:05 | 0:12:08 | |
So they walk away with the front quarter or the back quarter. | 0:12:08 | 0:12:11 | |
What was left in the place was all the other bits. | 0:12:11 | 0:12:14 | |
What they call the quinto quarto. | 0:12:14 | 0:12:15 | |
What we call the offal in English. | 0:12:15 | 0:12:16 | |
Like the liver, the kidneys, the heart, and the feet and... | 0:12:16 | 0:12:20 | |
Yeah, the lips... | 0:12:20 | 0:12:22 | |
Really, the most, you know, horrible bits, you know, of the animal. | 0:12:22 | 0:12:27 | |
And some of the people didn't get paid. | 0:12:27 | 0:12:29 | |
You didn't get paid money, you got paid with those bits of animal. | 0:12:29 | 0:12:33 | |
-So these guys are coming home with a bucket full of liver. -Yeah. | 0:12:33 | 0:12:36 | |
Or a bucket full of tripe. | 0:12:36 | 0:12:38 | |
And they give it to the wife, | 0:12:38 | 0:12:39 | |
and the wife will just cook it and sell it. | 0:12:39 | 0:12:42 | |
And so that's how they will make their money. | 0:12:42 | 0:12:44 | |
Ah. So, this leads to a new kind of street food. | 0:12:44 | 0:12:49 | |
This great idea of the street market with the people who then consume the | 0:12:49 | 0:12:53 | |
food, it was like hundreds of years ago it was done in Rome. | 0:12:53 | 0:12:57 | |
The slaughterhouse closed down in 1975. | 0:13:00 | 0:13:04 | |
But across the road at Testaccio Market its legacy lives on. | 0:13:04 | 0:13:09 | |
From the age of 14, | 0:13:10 | 0:13:12 | |
Signor Sergio Esposito worked at the abattoir. | 0:13:12 | 0:13:15 | |
And for the last 40 years he's been cooking offal | 0:13:15 | 0:13:20 | |
using traditional recipes passed down by his grandmother. | 0:13:20 | 0:13:23 | |
Buongiorno, Sergio. | 0:13:25 | 0:13:27 | |
-Buongiorno. -Come va? -Bene. | 0:13:27 | 0:13:29 | |
Mi amico Andrew. | 0:13:29 | 0:13:31 | |
ANDREW SPEAKS ITALIAN | 0:13:31 | 0:13:33 | |
I'm Andrew, ciao. | 0:13:33 | 0:13:35 | |
Look what he's doing. | 0:13:35 | 0:13:36 | |
Look, he's cutting your favourite thing. | 0:13:36 | 0:13:39 | |
-La coratella. -Oh, so this is the heart and the lungs. -The heart... | 0:13:39 | 0:13:42 | |
The lungs, look at that, look at that. | 0:13:42 | 0:13:45 | |
Look at that beauty of the lamb. | 0:13:45 | 0:13:47 | |
You see why they call it the fifth quarter, | 0:13:47 | 0:13:49 | |
-when you look at it, but when you taste it... -Yeah! | 0:13:49 | 0:13:53 | |
TRANSLATION: | 0:13:53 | 0:13:55 | |
So, when he was little, he used to work where they killed the animals. | 0:14:05 | 0:14:09 | |
TRANSLATION: | 0:14:09 | 0:14:10 | |
That's exactly what you were saying. | 0:14:24 | 0:14:26 | |
So, his grandfather was working in the slaughterhouse. | 0:14:26 | 0:14:28 | |
And got paid a little bit of money and a little bit of meat. | 0:14:28 | 0:14:31 | |
-And quite a lot of liver. -And liver! | 0:14:31 | 0:14:34 | |
So, you must taste one thing. | 0:14:34 | 0:14:37 | |
-You must taste one thing. -Can I taste three things? | 0:14:37 | 0:14:39 | |
Now then, don't be greedy. | 0:14:39 | 0:14:41 | |
So, this is a kidney sandwich. | 0:14:43 | 0:14:45 | |
-What else is in the recipe? -Onions. | 0:14:45 | 0:14:47 | |
TRANSLATION: | 0:14:48 | 0:14:50 | |
-And wine. -White wine. | 0:14:51 | 0:14:54 | |
Wine. | 0:14:54 | 0:14:55 | |
Oh, mamma mia! | 0:14:57 | 0:14:59 | |
How good is that? | 0:14:59 | 0:15:00 | |
GIORGIO SPEAKS ITALIAN | 0:15:04 | 0:15:07 | |
Can I have the...? | 0:15:07 | 0:15:08 | |
He's obviously got great admiration for you. | 0:15:12 | 0:15:15 | |
The flavour is incredible and it's so direct. | 0:15:15 | 0:15:18 | |
There is three ingredients. | 0:15:18 | 0:15:19 | |
There's white wine, there's onions, and there is kidney. | 0:15:19 | 0:15:22 | |
And you can taste all three of that. | 0:15:22 | 0:15:24 | |
And when you walk away, tomorrow you will remember what you eat. | 0:15:24 | 0:15:27 | |
So this is what it's all about. | 0:15:27 | 0:15:29 | |
I mean, the sweetness, | 0:15:29 | 0:15:30 | |
the unbelievable flavour that comes through. | 0:15:30 | 0:15:33 | |
Do you have tripe? | 0:15:33 | 0:15:34 | |
It might not be to everyone's taste, | 0:15:38 | 0:15:41 | |
but the stomach lining of a cow cooked with onions and tomato sauce | 0:15:41 | 0:15:45 | |
is a real delicacy. | 0:15:45 | 0:15:47 | |
Look at that. | 0:15:47 | 0:15:49 | |
-That's a little bit of pecorino Romano on top. -Look at that. | 0:15:49 | 0:15:52 | |
That's a sandwich. | 0:15:52 | 0:15:53 | |
The saltiness jumps out at you. | 0:15:58 | 0:16:00 | |
And it's got a little bit of mentucce in that. | 0:16:00 | 0:16:02 | |
A touch of mint. | 0:16:02 | 0:16:04 | |
You see, lots of people, if you even say the word tripe, | 0:16:04 | 0:16:06 | |
they go, "Ew! How can you eat that?" | 0:16:06 | 0:16:09 | |
But the truth is, it's such a beautiful, delicate dish. | 0:16:09 | 0:16:12 | |
It's so rich, isn't it? You can taste the richness of that. | 0:16:12 | 0:16:15 | |
You know, it's almost sticking, your lips are sticking together. | 0:16:15 | 0:16:19 | |
-Fantastic. -La Romanita. | 0:16:19 | 0:16:21 | |
We tasted "Romanity," that's what he calls it. | 0:16:21 | 0:16:24 | |
It's a Romeness, Romeness sandwiches. | 0:16:24 | 0:16:27 | |
-Sergio, grazie. -Grazie. | 0:16:27 | 0:16:30 | |
-Grazie. -Grazie. -Arrivederci. | 0:16:33 | 0:16:34 | |
-Ciao, ciao. -Ciao! | 0:16:34 | 0:16:36 | |
HORN TOOTS | 0:16:42 | 0:16:43 | |
Romanity comes in many forms. | 0:16:45 | 0:16:49 | |
And if there is one community that's left its mark on | 0:16:49 | 0:16:53 | |
Roman culinary tradition, it's the Jewish community. | 0:16:53 | 0:16:56 | |
Their origins in the city can be traced back to 200 BC, | 0:17:03 | 0:17:07 | |
when envoys arrived from the Holy Land hoping to establish | 0:17:07 | 0:17:10 | |
trading links with ancient Rome. | 0:17:10 | 0:17:12 | |
-Buongiorno. -Buongiorno. | 0:17:15 | 0:17:17 | |
More than 2,000 years later, the Jewish presence lives on. | 0:17:17 | 0:17:21 | |
This is called pizza ebraica. | 0:17:27 | 0:17:29 | |
-Grazie. -Grazie. | 0:17:29 | 0:17:30 | |
Are you not going to pay for it? | 0:17:33 | 0:17:35 | |
It's very special. | 0:17:37 | 0:17:39 | |
-300 years? -Si. | 0:17:43 | 0:17:45 | |
-That's... -They've been baking in this corner for 300 years. | 0:17:45 | 0:17:48 | |
Complement... Well, it tastes like it. | 0:17:48 | 0:17:50 | |
Si. | 0:17:52 | 0:17:53 | |
-Really good. -Medieval sweet bread. | 0:18:06 | 0:18:09 | |
Grazie. | 0:18:09 | 0:18:10 | |
Grazie. Arrivederci. | 0:18:19 | 0:18:21 | |
But life for the Jewish people of Rome hasn't always been sweet. | 0:18:24 | 0:18:29 | |
In 1555, Pope Paul IV ordered the construction of the Jewish ghetto. | 0:18:31 | 0:18:37 | |
Its walls confined them to a squalid area along the River Tiber. | 0:18:37 | 0:18:41 | |
Severe laws restricted them to just a few occupations. | 0:18:43 | 0:18:47 | |
-This is a very characteristic street of the ghetto. -Mm. | 0:18:47 | 0:18:50 | |
Because it's narrow, reflecting the medieval origins of this area, | 0:18:50 | 0:18:55 | |
but it's also really tall. | 0:18:55 | 0:18:57 | |
So, it's very shadowed, it's very dark, it's a bit dank and damp. | 0:18:57 | 0:19:02 | |
The reason the buildings are so tall here is because | 0:19:02 | 0:19:05 | |
the ghetto couldn't expand outwards, so they had to build up. | 0:19:05 | 0:19:08 | |
Which made the sanitation in an area that was already not great, | 0:19:08 | 0:19:12 | |
-even worse. -Yeah. That's the place they were given. | 0:19:12 | 0:19:14 | |
Like not a very good piece of land. | 0:19:14 | 0:19:17 | |
They had all these humiliating sort of ceremonies and rituals. | 0:19:18 | 0:19:22 | |
So if you were the Chief Rabbi in the ghetto, | 0:19:22 | 0:19:26 | |
every year you had to renegotiate the Jews' tenancy of the ghetto. | 0:19:26 | 0:19:31 | |
And when the Caporioni, the head of the city councillors of Rome agreed, | 0:19:31 | 0:19:36 | |
it was marked by ceremony on the Capitoline Hill in that | 0:19:36 | 0:19:40 | |
beautiful square that Michelangelo designed. | 0:19:40 | 0:19:42 | |
The rabbi would say, "Oh, thank you for giving me and the Jews | 0:19:42 | 0:19:48 | |
"another year in the ghetto." | 0:19:48 | 0:19:49 | |
And the ceremony ended when the rabbi turned round and was | 0:19:49 | 0:19:53 | |
bent down as part of this public theatre. | 0:19:53 | 0:19:56 | |
-And the Caporioni kicked him in the... -Man, no! | 0:19:56 | 0:19:59 | |
No, really, that was the... | 0:19:59 | 0:20:00 | |
Well, that's unbelievable. | 0:20:00 | 0:20:02 | |
Access to food was extremely limited, | 0:20:06 | 0:20:09 | |
as the Jewish people were restricted in their employment opportunities. | 0:20:09 | 0:20:15 | |
One of the few occupations permitted was selling food on the street, | 0:20:15 | 0:20:19 | |
which meant they could bring home the leftovers. | 0:20:19 | 0:20:23 | |
Despite their limited access to ingredients, | 0:20:26 | 0:20:29 | |
they still created mouthwatering dishes, | 0:20:29 | 0:20:32 | |
which have stood the test of time, | 0:20:32 | 0:20:35 | |
and I'm going to cook a couple for Andrew. | 0:20:35 | 0:20:38 | |
Coffee delivery service! | 0:20:40 | 0:20:43 | |
Oh! Thank you, Andrew. Good man. | 0:20:43 | 0:20:48 | |
Mm. Even the takeaway coffee tastes good in Rome, doesn't it? | 0:20:50 | 0:20:53 | |
-It's not bad. -OK, look, I'm going to cook you some stuff. | 0:20:53 | 0:20:57 | |
It's called gozzamoddi. | 0:20:57 | 0:20:58 | |
And they are like these... Kind of like meatballs. | 0:20:58 | 0:21:02 | |
-Made with chicken? -Made with chicken. Bravo. | 0:21:02 | 0:21:05 | |
You've carefully kept the chicken skin. | 0:21:05 | 0:21:07 | |
Any type of fat would have been expensive. | 0:21:07 | 0:21:10 | |
Use the skin. These guys lived on the scraps of everybody else. | 0:21:10 | 0:21:15 | |
So, it was a cuisine created by the necessity, and as usual, | 0:21:15 | 0:21:19 | |
a cuisine that creates | 0:21:19 | 0:21:21 | |
and has its backbone, on necessity - | 0:21:21 | 0:21:24 | |
that's the cuisine that survives. | 0:21:24 | 0:21:26 | |
Give me a job. Something not too difficult. | 0:21:26 | 0:21:29 | |
OK, I'm going to give you a couple of carrots to peel. | 0:21:29 | 0:21:31 | |
We've got the celery. | 0:21:31 | 0:21:33 | |
First, I'm going to prepare a sauce | 0:21:35 | 0:21:37 | |
using carrots, celery, onions and tomato, | 0:21:37 | 0:21:41 | |
and my secret ingredient. | 0:21:41 | 0:21:43 | |
So, I have the skin. | 0:21:43 | 0:21:45 | |
These will give this really beautiful | 0:21:45 | 0:21:48 | |
chicken flavour to the sauce. | 0:21:48 | 0:21:50 | |
A nice little... Like if it was a spoonful. | 0:21:52 | 0:21:55 | |
-The smell is very good. -Smells like we're cooking, doesn't it? | 0:21:55 | 0:21:59 | |
One of the typical things of the Jewish community - | 0:22:00 | 0:22:05 | |
they didn't write the recipe down. | 0:22:05 | 0:22:07 | |
The recipes were something that were passed | 0:22:07 | 0:22:10 | |
mostly from mother to daughter. | 0:22:10 | 0:22:11 | |
This is hundreds of years of refining and refining. | 0:22:11 | 0:22:16 | |
The experience, the necessity, | 0:22:16 | 0:22:19 | |
and the availability of ingredients, | 0:22:19 | 0:22:21 | |
so these are the three things then placed together | 0:22:21 | 0:22:23 | |
to make this recipe incredible. | 0:22:23 | 0:22:26 | |
You've got to taste the sauce and tell me if we need more salt. | 0:22:26 | 0:22:29 | |
Come on. Blow, blow, blow, blow, blow. | 0:22:29 | 0:22:32 | |
-Salt? -A tiny bit more. | 0:22:36 | 0:22:38 | |
A tiny bit of salt, and we let it cook. | 0:22:40 | 0:22:43 | |
And, you know, could you taste already the chicken in that? | 0:22:43 | 0:22:46 | |
-Yeah. From the fat? -Of course. -Definitely. Yeah, really nice. | 0:22:46 | 0:22:49 | |
Unbelievable. I love that. | 0:22:49 | 0:22:52 | |
Now it needs to simmer, and what we're going to do, | 0:22:52 | 0:22:55 | |
I'm going to make the meatball mixture. | 0:22:55 | 0:22:58 | |
I'm going to add salt, pepper, | 0:22:58 | 0:23:03 | |
a tiny little bit of cinnamon. | 0:23:03 | 0:23:07 | |
Then, I got a little bit of the kosher bread, | 0:23:07 | 0:23:09 | |
which I have already sort of put in water. | 0:23:09 | 0:23:13 | |
So, this is going to give me a really, really nice consistency. | 0:23:13 | 0:23:17 | |
-The egg is to bind it? -That's right. -It's going to sort of become | 0:23:17 | 0:23:21 | |
-a beautiful glomerated mass of flavour. -OK. | 0:23:21 | 0:23:25 | |
And is the idea that the meatball in the sauce - | 0:23:27 | 0:23:30 | |
that is the dish, there's nothing else? | 0:23:30 | 0:23:32 | |
-No, that's it. -There's no rice or potatoes? | 0:23:32 | 0:23:35 | |
No, they would eat so frugally. | 0:23:35 | 0:23:37 | |
No, there is nothing coming with that. | 0:23:37 | 0:23:40 | |
Six of them. OK, I'm going to place them in. | 0:23:40 | 0:23:43 | |
And now we're going to have to go and get the artichoke, | 0:23:46 | 0:23:49 | |
because you can't come to Rome, in the Jewish quarter, | 0:23:49 | 0:23:53 | |
and not having artichoke. | 0:23:53 | 0:23:55 | |
But, hang on, they're not in season. | 0:23:55 | 0:23:57 | |
If you know people, you can get artichoke. | 0:23:57 | 0:23:59 | |
So, we're going to cut the stems off. | 0:23:59 | 0:24:02 | |
Roman artichokes are exceptionally tender. | 0:24:02 | 0:24:05 | |
Everything, from the leaves to the stem and heart, | 0:24:07 | 0:24:10 | |
is edible and delicious. | 0:24:10 | 0:24:12 | |
It's got that silvery green, doesn't it? | 0:24:17 | 0:24:20 | |
-That's quite a noise. -Beautiful, isn't it? -The cauldron is bubbling. | 0:24:20 | 0:24:24 | |
This way of deep-frying artichokes is known as carciofi alla giudia, | 0:24:24 | 0:24:29 | |
Jewish-style artichoke, | 0:24:29 | 0:24:31 | |
and it's now one of the most famous of all Roman recipes. | 0:24:31 | 0:24:35 | |
Cos the ghetto's so small, everybody else would know | 0:24:35 | 0:24:40 | |
that the mama in this house is cooking the artichokes | 0:24:40 | 0:24:43 | |
cos the smell is travelling down the street. | 0:24:43 | 0:24:45 | |
The idea is to open it up. | 0:24:47 | 0:24:49 | |
No mistaking that you're eating a flower. | 0:24:49 | 0:24:52 | |
So, they're actually cooked? | 0:24:52 | 0:24:54 | |
-You're just finishing the texture? -Yeah. | 0:24:54 | 0:24:57 | |
You're going to sort of flash-fry them? | 0:24:57 | 0:24:59 | |
Look at that. It makes me think of Van Gogh's sunflowers! | 0:25:01 | 0:25:06 | |
THEY LAUGH You've just painted a picture. | 0:25:06 | 0:25:08 | |
Une artiste! I cannot be more happy than that. | 0:25:08 | 0:25:12 | |
I think it's perfect. | 0:25:17 | 0:25:19 | |
-Well, this is so lovely. -Mm. | 0:25:22 | 0:25:24 | |
I like the contrast in the two textures. | 0:25:24 | 0:25:27 | |
So, the heart is all soft, almost like an avocado. | 0:25:27 | 0:25:31 | |
-Mm. -And the petals are... | 0:25:31 | 0:25:32 | |
-Nice and crispy. -Yeah, they're like crisps. | 0:25:32 | 0:25:35 | |
Taking my hat off | 0:25:35 | 0:25:36 | |
to the Jewish tradition of cooking artichoke like that. | 0:25:36 | 0:25:40 | |
I think it's stunning. | 0:25:40 | 0:25:41 | |
Mm-mm-mm! | 0:25:41 | 0:25:43 | |
Oh, such a smell! Mm! | 0:25:46 | 0:25:49 | |
Really chicken, but also with this rich tomato, as well. | 0:25:49 | 0:25:52 | |
Let's taste it. | 0:25:52 | 0:25:54 | |
-See? -Mm! | 0:25:54 | 0:25:57 | |
-Amazing, yeah? -That is amazing! GIORGIO CHUCKLES | 0:25:57 | 0:26:00 | |
The experience in the mouth | 0:26:00 | 0:26:02 | |
is that it's such a refined dish, it's such a delicate flavour. | 0:26:02 | 0:26:07 | |
So light. We're touching this small history, the human history. | 0:26:07 | 0:26:11 | |
On the one hand, you've got the artichoke, | 0:26:11 | 0:26:13 | |
which is made by people who know that, | 0:26:13 | 0:26:14 | |
at any point, they might have to run away. | 0:26:14 | 0:26:17 | |
So, they're doing something that they can keep, | 0:26:17 | 0:26:19 | |
they can eat in a week. You can literally put it in your pocket. | 0:26:19 | 0:26:22 | |
-Yeah. -The other hand, with the meatballs, | 0:26:22 | 0:26:24 | |
they're making food that, simultaneously, | 0:26:24 | 0:26:26 | |
is completely of this place - Rome - with these wonderful ingredients, | 0:26:26 | 0:26:30 | |
but also they just have this little memory | 0:26:30 | 0:26:32 | |
-of the travels of the Jews in the form of the cinnamon... -Mm. | 0:26:32 | 0:26:35 | |
..which is not something I associate at all with Italian food. | 0:26:35 | 0:26:38 | |
Yeah, I wouldn't think any Italian would put any cinnamon. | 0:26:38 | 0:26:41 | |
I mean, I don't know where cinnamon comes from, | 0:26:41 | 0:26:43 | |
but, to me, it's a little taste of, you know, the Middle East. | 0:26:43 | 0:26:46 | |
And the little girl can be told by her mum, "You see the cinnamon? | 0:26:46 | 0:26:49 | |
"That's because we've been there." | 0:26:49 | 0:26:51 | |
It's lovely. Thank you, Giorgio. That's absolutely delicious. | 0:26:52 | 0:26:56 | |
I never had something where the appearance is so, | 0:26:56 | 0:27:00 | |
as it were, ordinary, and the taste is so sublime. | 0:27:00 | 0:27:03 | |
-Grazie. -Oh, Andrew! Look at that. That's... | 0:27:22 | 0:27:25 | |
..30% and 50% schiuma. | 0:27:27 | 0:27:32 | |
-Schiuma. -La schiuma. -There's no milk, just cream? | 0:27:32 | 0:27:34 | |
No, this is the cream of the coffee. | 0:27:34 | 0:27:36 | |
What I like about Rome is that, in most other cities, | 0:27:38 | 0:27:41 | |
if you want to experience the past, you have to go into a museum. | 0:27:41 | 0:27:44 | |
-You have to go inside, to a museum. -Right. -Here in Rome - no, no. | 0:27:44 | 0:27:48 | |
If you want to tell me about the past, and the slaughterhouses, | 0:27:48 | 0:27:51 | |
and what it was like one date, you just take me over there, | 0:27:51 | 0:27:54 | |
-and it's all still there. -Old places - that can be the museum. | 0:27:54 | 0:27:57 | |
-Yes, you're right. -But it's not a museum of history with a capital H. | 0:27:57 | 0:28:00 | |
It's a museum of history with a small H for humanity. | 0:28:00 | 0:28:03 | |
-For humanity. -It's the history of food, | 0:28:03 | 0:28:05 | |
or it might be the history of what the Jews once did here, | 0:28:05 | 0:28:08 | |
how they once lived. | 0:28:08 | 0:28:10 | |
That's what I like. Everywhere you turn, | 0:28:10 | 0:28:12 | |
-there's another story. -Yes. | 0:28:12 | 0:28:14 | |
So, today, we're going to go and see something from high, high culture. | 0:28:14 | 0:28:18 | |
-OK. -We're going to go to one of the great palaces. | 0:28:18 | 0:28:21 | |
My favourite thing in there is actually not, | 0:28:21 | 0:28:24 | |
like, a famous, great masterpiece. | 0:28:24 | 0:28:26 | |
It's something quite strange and unusual, and it's food-related. | 0:28:26 | 0:28:29 | |
-Grazie. -Grazie. Buona giornata. | 0:28:29 | 0:28:31 | |
This would be a nice street to live in, | 0:28:38 | 0:28:40 | |
with all these beautiful views across the Tiber. | 0:28:40 | 0:28:44 | |
HORN HONKS | 0:28:47 | 0:28:48 | |
Here we are. | 0:28:50 | 0:28:52 | |
We're heading to the Palazzo Colonna, | 0:28:52 | 0:28:54 | |
one of the oldest and largest private palaces in all of Rome. | 0:28:54 | 0:28:59 | |
-Nice little abode. -HE CHUCKLES | 0:28:59 | 0:29:01 | |
Yes, humble - not quite. | 0:29:01 | 0:29:04 | |
The Palazzo Colonna spans an entire city block. | 0:29:05 | 0:29:09 | |
Its construction began in the 14th century, | 0:29:09 | 0:29:11 | |
and the building work lasted for 500 years, | 0:29:11 | 0:29:15 | |
hence the rich mix of different architectural styles. | 0:29:15 | 0:29:19 | |
Even the great artist and architect Gian Lorenzo Bernini | 0:29:19 | 0:29:23 | |
lent his expertise to the building and design of the palace. | 0:29:23 | 0:29:28 | |
So, this is the great symbol of the Colonna - the column. | 0:29:28 | 0:29:31 | |
And then, on the side, this inscription. | 0:29:31 | 0:29:33 | |
-"Semper immota." -Never moved. -Never moved. | 0:29:33 | 0:29:37 | |
Always here. | 0:29:37 | 0:29:39 | |
And you can't say that it's a hollow boast, | 0:29:39 | 0:29:43 | |
-cos they are still here. -Right. That's Aslan for us, to meet us. | 0:29:43 | 0:29:47 | |
-Salve. Buongiorno, Aslan. -Buongiorno. -Buongiorno. -Buongiorno. | 0:29:47 | 0:29:50 | |
Aslan, a member of the modern Colonna family, | 0:29:50 | 0:29:53 | |
is going to show us around. | 0:29:53 | 0:29:55 | |
-Giorgio, after you. -Oh, thank you. | 0:29:55 | 0:29:58 | |
The Colonna family was among the most powerful and influential | 0:29:58 | 0:30:02 | |
of the Roman baronial dynasties. | 0:30:02 | 0:30:05 | |
Within their family tree, you can find a Pope, a saint, | 0:30:05 | 0:30:10 | |
a spiritual adviser of Michelangelo, a general, a patron of Caravaggio, | 0:30:10 | 0:30:16 | |
and many other church and political leaders. | 0:30:16 | 0:30:19 | |
-Oh! -That's why I took my glasses off. | 0:30:21 | 0:30:24 | |
Yes, yes, you need to take your glasses off. | 0:30:24 | 0:30:27 | |
What a room! | 0:30:27 | 0:30:29 | |
Giorgio, hai visto? | 0:30:29 | 0:30:32 | |
Amazing. Amazing. | 0:30:32 | 0:30:35 | |
Not a bad room to have a party in. | 0:30:35 | 0:30:37 | |
The splendid Galleria Colonna | 0:30:38 | 0:30:41 | |
was commissioned in the mid-17th century | 0:30:41 | 0:30:43 | |
by Cardinal Girolamo and his nephew Lorenzo Onofrio Colonna. | 0:30:43 | 0:30:49 | |
-What a thing, huh? -Oh, my God! | 0:30:49 | 0:30:52 | |
From the outset, the gallery was conceived as a vast stage set | 0:30:52 | 0:30:57 | |
to celebrate the Colonna family's part | 0:30:57 | 0:31:00 | |
in a famous military victory of 1571. | 0:31:00 | 0:31:05 | |
The room is 76m long, | 0:31:05 | 0:31:07 | |
and every square inch is decorated, gilded, | 0:31:07 | 0:31:11 | |
or adorned with sculpture. | 0:31:11 | 0:31:13 | |
You can't come in here and not be amazed. | 0:31:13 | 0:31:16 | |
On the roof, you've got the great Battle of Lepanto. | 0:31:18 | 0:31:22 | |
It's really the one great victory of the Christians over Islam. | 0:31:22 | 0:31:28 | |
In command of the victorious fleet is Marcantonio Colonna, | 0:31:28 | 0:31:32 | |
and the Colonna family will never let the world forget | 0:31:32 | 0:31:36 | |
that they were at the centre of this triumph. | 0:31:36 | 0:31:38 | |
Still, in Italy, you know, if you see a big guy, | 0:31:38 | 0:31:42 | |
you say, "Che bel pezzo di Marcantonio." | 0:31:42 | 0:31:44 | |
It means, "What a great big man." | 0:31:44 | 0:31:46 | |
So, still hundreds and hundreds of years, | 0:31:46 | 0:31:48 | |
these guys set the standard, | 0:31:48 | 0:31:50 | |
and the Italians still, you know, aim to Marcantonio. | 0:31:50 | 0:31:55 | |
I mean, the action there, you can actually... | 0:31:55 | 0:31:57 | |
You feel the spray of the sea coming down towards you. | 0:31:57 | 0:32:00 | |
You see these people drowning and... | 0:32:00 | 0:32:02 | |
-And all the flags. -..it is unbelievable. | 0:32:02 | 0:32:04 | |
Beautifully vibrant, and beautiful colour. | 0:32:04 | 0:32:07 | |
It's a very famous room even for people | 0:32:09 | 0:32:11 | |
who are not perhaps interested in art history, | 0:32:11 | 0:32:14 | |
because this is where they shot the final scene of Roman Holiday. | 0:32:14 | 0:32:17 | |
Roman Holiday was here. | 0:32:17 | 0:32:19 | |
And up there was Audrey Hepburn | 0:32:19 | 0:32:21 | |
saying hello to all the journalists here. | 0:32:21 | 0:32:23 | |
That's right. And then there's poor Gregory Peck. | 0:32:23 | 0:32:26 | |
-Was it Gregory Peck? -Gregory Peck, yeah. -Yeah, with his broken heart. | 0:32:26 | 0:32:29 | |
But, I mean, if ever a room was waiting for the cinema... | 0:32:29 | 0:32:32 | |
-It's this one. -..it's this one. | 0:32:32 | 0:32:34 | |
-Thank you, Aslan. -Grazie. | 0:32:35 | 0:32:37 | |
-Grazie. -Is it OK if we stay just a little while longer? | 0:32:37 | 0:32:40 | |
Of course. There's plenty of space. | 0:32:40 | 0:32:41 | |
There's quite a lot of things to look at. | 0:32:41 | 0:32:43 | |
This palace, every room - every room - is a cornucopia. | 0:32:44 | 0:32:49 | |
I love this painting. | 0:32:51 | 0:32:52 | |
This is such a strange, weird, wonderful painting. | 0:32:52 | 0:32:55 | |
It was commissioned by him, Filippo Colonna, | 0:32:55 | 0:33:00 | |
after the death of his wife and the death of his mother. | 0:33:00 | 0:33:03 | |
And what he wanted was a depiction of the souls of the blessed | 0:33:03 | 0:33:06 | |
rising on the last day when Christ comes back, | 0:33:06 | 0:33:12 | |
and we are all born again. | 0:33:12 | 0:33:14 | |
And everyone being born again is a Colonna. | 0:33:14 | 0:33:16 | |
-Look, there's Marcantonio Colonna. -Marcantonio. | 0:33:16 | 0:33:20 | |
And when I see him there, | 0:33:20 | 0:33:22 | |
I see what you mean when you say he's like a big guy. | 0:33:22 | 0:33:24 | |
I mean, he looks like a wrestler! | 0:33:24 | 0:33:26 | |
He's going to wrestle his way into heaven. | 0:33:26 | 0:33:28 | |
Isn't that something? By Pietro Da Cortona. | 0:33:28 | 0:33:31 | |
So, by a famous artist, I've never seen a painting quite like it. | 0:33:31 | 0:33:35 | |
-Talking of eternity and the soul, this is the family's chapel. -Mm. | 0:33:36 | 0:33:42 | |
Even in such a rich art collection as this, | 0:33:44 | 0:33:47 | |
if you dig a little, there's always a surprise to unearth. | 0:33:47 | 0:33:51 | |
-Look at this. -Oh, my God. | 0:33:51 | 0:33:54 | |
This has only been discovered | 0:33:54 | 0:33:58 | |
by the Colonna family themselves last year. | 0:33:58 | 0:34:02 | |
There was always a rather dirty cross on the altar, | 0:34:02 | 0:34:07 | |
but they only recently realised that it was actually a box, | 0:34:07 | 0:34:10 | |
-and that, inside... -No way! -Yeah. | 0:34:10 | 0:34:12 | |
-This was inside the box! -This was inside. | 0:34:12 | 0:34:15 | |
It's late 15th century, it's from Florence... | 0:34:15 | 0:34:20 | |
..but they don't know who it's by. | 0:34:21 | 0:34:23 | |
Some people have suggested Antonio da Sangallo. | 0:34:23 | 0:34:25 | |
Some people have suggested it could even be by Michelangelo. | 0:34:25 | 0:34:28 | |
Look at the rib cage, look at the blood, | 0:34:28 | 0:34:31 | |
look at the handling of the drapery and the face. | 0:34:31 | 0:34:34 | |
-Absolutely amazing thing. -Mm. | 0:34:35 | 0:34:38 | |
Can you imagine having that, you know, | 0:34:38 | 0:34:40 | |
sort of forgotten in a cupboard? | 0:34:40 | 0:34:43 | |
That is unbelievable. | 0:34:43 | 0:34:47 | |
Not bad, eh? | 0:34:47 | 0:34:49 | |
I've got something that I think | 0:34:50 | 0:34:53 | |
is definitely going to be to your taste, | 0:34:53 | 0:34:55 | |
and I mean taste with a capital T. | 0:34:55 | 0:34:58 | |
From the sacred to the profane. | 0:35:00 | 0:35:02 | |
If ever there was a picture for Giorgio Locatelli, | 0:35:02 | 0:35:05 | |
surely, it's this one. It's called... | 0:35:05 | 0:35:08 | |
-BOTH: -The Beaneater. -Yeah. -You know, I know this picture, | 0:35:08 | 0:35:11 | |
because that was right in the front of the cookery books... | 0:35:11 | 0:35:15 | |
-Oh, really? -..I used to have at school. Yes. | 0:35:15 | 0:35:17 | |
This is beautiful, because, look, these are black-eyed beans. | 0:35:17 | 0:35:21 | |
You see a little bit of the juices there. | 0:35:21 | 0:35:23 | |
-Can you see it falling down? -Yes! | 0:35:23 | 0:35:26 | |
And that's like... Look at that. Like a cipollotto. | 0:35:26 | 0:35:29 | |
Brown bread, cos, obviously, at that time, you know, | 0:35:29 | 0:35:32 | |
they didn't make white flour yet. | 0:35:32 | 0:35:34 | |
Typical Roman way to cut it on the top like that. | 0:35:34 | 0:35:37 | |
And then you can see that you can break it up in pieces. | 0:35:37 | 0:35:39 | |
So, he's holding one piece. | 0:35:39 | 0:35:41 | |
You know this is painted by Annibale Carracci in the 1590s? | 0:35:41 | 0:35:45 | |
This was his version of Arte Povera. | 0:35:45 | 0:35:47 | |
This was his way of painting the life | 0:35:47 | 0:35:50 | |
of poor, ordinary, working people. | 0:35:50 | 0:35:52 | |
He pioneered this, along with Caravaggio. | 0:35:52 | 0:35:54 | |
It's almost as if Carracci has changed his style | 0:35:54 | 0:35:57 | |
to adapt to the subject matter. | 0:35:57 | 0:35:59 | |
He's painting something that is quite a poor subject, | 0:35:59 | 0:36:02 | |
and he's doing it very quickly. | 0:36:02 | 0:36:04 | |
He's doing low colours, | 0:36:04 | 0:36:06 | |
not bright flashes of red or ultramarine blue. | 0:36:06 | 0:36:09 | |
It's brilliant that they've put it underneath this picture, | 0:36:09 | 0:36:12 | |
which is all about Mary as the Queen of Heaven, | 0:36:12 | 0:36:14 | |
you know, wearing her wonderful draperies. | 0:36:14 | 0:36:16 | |
And then, beneath, it's the people's king of the beans! | 0:36:16 | 0:36:21 | |
And it's lovely, as well, I think that, you know, | 0:36:21 | 0:36:24 | |
in the Palazzo Colonna, which is so much a place | 0:36:24 | 0:36:27 | |
about this huge span of history, | 0:36:27 | 0:36:31 | |
in the end, what's the painting we've finished in front of? | 0:36:31 | 0:36:34 | |
-A peasant eating his dinner. -And how Roman is that? | 0:36:34 | 0:36:36 | |
This is great for me to have seen this. Really. | 0:36:36 | 0:36:40 | |
HORN HONKS It wouldn't be Rome if we didn't hit | 0:36:47 | 0:36:50 | |
-an occasional traffic jam, would it? -Yeah. | 0:36:50 | 0:36:52 | |
I Vigili del Fuoco - the fire brigade, Andrew. | 0:36:54 | 0:36:57 | |
-Andiamo. -HORN HONKS | 0:36:58 | 0:37:00 | |
So, where are we going, Giorgio? | 0:37:03 | 0:37:05 | |
-We're going to see a very good chef. -What's her name? | 0:37:05 | 0:37:09 | |
Si chiama Cristina Bowerman. | 0:37:09 | 0:37:12 | |
She's very inspiring, the way she works with old recipes. | 0:37:12 | 0:37:16 | |
Her food is really top-notch. | 0:37:16 | 0:37:18 | |
Maybe she can cook us some beans, eh? | 0:37:18 | 0:37:21 | |
Well, that's... Let's hope so. | 0:37:21 | 0:37:23 | |
Cristina's Michelin-starred restaurant is called Glass Hostaria. | 0:37:26 | 0:37:31 | |
It's in the trendy neighbourhood of Trastevere | 0:37:31 | 0:37:34 | |
in the centre of the city. | 0:37:34 | 0:37:36 | |
You come from these great, wide avenues | 0:37:36 | 0:37:38 | |
into these little almost like labyrinths of streets. | 0:37:38 | 0:37:41 | |
With all these bars and restaurants, everybody eating and drinking. | 0:37:41 | 0:37:46 | |
HORN HONKS This is it? | 0:37:47 | 0:37:49 | |
I'm going to introduce you. | 0:37:49 | 0:37:51 | |
-Cristina. -In this beautiful tavern. -How are you? | 0:37:53 | 0:37:56 | |
-Can we come in? -Welcome. -Very well. -Yes. Come on over. | 0:37:56 | 0:37:59 | |
Cristina uses ingredients from traditional Roman cuisine. | 0:37:59 | 0:38:04 | |
Today, she's going to cook for us a unique cheesecake. | 0:38:04 | 0:38:08 | |
-A cheesecake? -A cheesecake with pasta, with beans, and mussels. | 0:38:08 | 0:38:12 | |
Are we talking about almost a scherzo on the cheesecake? | 0:38:12 | 0:38:16 | |
-Exactly. -Cos it's a joke on the cheesecake. | 0:38:16 | 0:38:18 | |
-That is exactly it. -Cos we're savoury here. | 0:38:18 | 0:38:20 | |
-We're not sweet. -Exactly. | 0:38:20 | 0:38:21 | |
This is actually the base of the cheesecake, | 0:38:21 | 0:38:24 | |
but let me show you how I did it. | 0:38:24 | 0:38:26 | |
She boiled it, and then she put it into a dryer, and dried. | 0:38:26 | 0:38:30 | |
Can I just get that right? | 0:38:30 | 0:38:32 | |
The base of the cheesecake - you cook pasta? | 0:38:32 | 0:38:34 | |
-Exactly. -You then, when it's cooked... | 0:38:34 | 0:38:36 | |
-Dry them. -..you deep-fry it? | 0:38:36 | 0:38:37 | |
-Yes. -Deep-fried it. -Then you dry it in the oven? | 0:38:37 | 0:38:40 | |
And then you crunch it up? | 0:38:40 | 0:38:41 | |
-So, it's instead of the biscuits? -Exactly. | 0:38:41 | 0:38:45 | |
-How thick do you want it? -I want it, like, this thick. | 0:38:45 | 0:38:49 | |
-OK. -And you need to press it. | 0:38:50 | 0:38:53 | |
-So, now... -What's this extraordinary...? | 0:38:55 | 0:38:57 | |
-That's the beans. That's the beans. -This is cannellini beans. | 0:38:57 | 0:39:00 | |
The cannellini beans that have been made into a puree. | 0:39:00 | 0:39:03 | |
-This is what that becomes? -Exactly. -That's exactly it. | 0:39:03 | 0:39:05 | |
Beans are really part of our tradition. | 0:39:05 | 0:39:08 | |
They used to say the Roman army would travel on their stomach, | 0:39:08 | 0:39:12 | |
and, you know, what they would carry would be like cicerchie. | 0:39:12 | 0:39:15 | |
-They will have... -Chickpeas? -Yeah, like... | 0:39:15 | 0:39:17 | |
Cicerchie is like wild chickpeas | 0:39:17 | 0:39:19 | |
that they used to carry on their bags with their salt - | 0:39:19 | 0:39:22 | |
their own salt - and a little bit of flour. | 0:39:22 | 0:39:24 | |
So, they would do this, like, cook the beans, | 0:39:24 | 0:39:27 | |
add things, and make some... I don't know. Some bread. | 0:39:27 | 0:39:29 | |
And they would make up something like that, | 0:39:29 | 0:39:31 | |
even as they were advancing. | 0:39:31 | 0:39:33 | |
So, even this would probably very much surprise a Roman soldier, | 0:39:33 | 0:39:37 | |
but he would still, in some taste memory, | 0:39:37 | 0:39:39 | |
he would know what it is. | 0:39:39 | 0:39:41 | |
-It's going to look like a dessert! -Exactly. | 0:39:41 | 0:39:45 | |
And this is my last touch. Smell it. | 0:39:45 | 0:39:48 | |
-Wow! That is... -Those are mussels. | 0:39:49 | 0:39:53 | |
Goodness me. So, how have you prepared those? | 0:39:53 | 0:39:55 | |
I cooked them up, then I dehydrated them, | 0:39:55 | 0:39:59 | |
-and then I powderised them. -Goodness me. I never heard of that. | 0:39:59 | 0:40:03 | |
-Can you buy this or...? -No, you have to make it fresh. | 0:40:03 | 0:40:06 | |
-No, no, no, I made them. -You make it yourself? -Yeah. -Yeah. | 0:40:06 | 0:40:08 | |
So, you're going to have that bean taste, pasta taste, | 0:40:08 | 0:40:12 | |
and then you're going to be hit by that sort of flavour of the fish | 0:40:12 | 0:40:15 | |
because, you know, like, the mussel, they've got that really fish... | 0:40:15 | 0:40:19 | |
-Rich, fishy flavour. -That is very ingenious. | 0:40:19 | 0:40:23 | |
-So, when did you invent this recipe? -Last month. -Last month?! | 0:40:23 | 0:40:28 | |
So, this is straight off the wheel of time. | 0:40:28 | 0:40:33 | |
-Mm! -Can you taste the mussels? -Yeah. Very strong. | 0:40:33 | 0:40:37 | |
-The mussel comes at the end... -At the end. | 0:40:37 | 0:40:39 | |
..with the seasoning and... | 0:40:39 | 0:40:41 | |
And that's the thing that should stay with you. | 0:40:41 | 0:40:43 | |
What I love also is this crust. | 0:40:43 | 0:40:46 | |
I have one little more surprise. | 0:40:46 | 0:40:48 | |
-Could you wait just 20 seconds? I'm going to go get it. -OK. | 0:40:48 | 0:40:51 | |
-We can wait. -You can clean up here, so I can put it right there. | 0:40:51 | 0:40:54 | |
-We can eat a bit more of this if you want. -So... | 0:40:54 | 0:40:58 | |
-Ooh, wow! -Cannelloni. | 0:40:58 | 0:41:00 | |
I want you to taste it and guess what it is. | 0:41:00 | 0:41:02 | |
Mm! It's some kind of beautiful semifreddo. | 0:41:06 | 0:41:10 | |
-Mm-hm. -Made of...? | 0:41:10 | 0:41:14 | |
If you're going to put me to the test, it's like nougat? | 0:41:14 | 0:41:17 | |
-Almonds? -OK, I'll make it easy for you. | 0:41:17 | 0:41:19 | |
-They are all beans. -That's all beans?! | 0:41:19 | 0:41:22 | |
This is a meringue made out of the leftover water | 0:41:22 | 0:41:25 | |
from cooking the beans. | 0:41:25 | 0:41:27 | |
That's a bean powder, and that's a bean mousse. | 0:41:27 | 0:41:30 | |
-You're kidding me! -Yes. -You are kidding me. | 0:41:30 | 0:41:32 | |
The only different thing is it's an almond outside. | 0:41:32 | 0:41:35 | |
-There is an almond. I knew there was an almond. -Yeah, the green stuff. | 0:41:35 | 0:41:37 | |
-But everything else is a bean? -Everything else is a bean. | 0:41:37 | 0:41:40 | |
You are kidding me. So, you can make anything out of a bean, right? | 0:41:40 | 0:41:43 | |
Not only. You use everything, even the water. | 0:41:43 | 0:41:46 | |
No, I don't mean... I don't mean one. | 0:41:46 | 0:41:48 | |
I mean YOU can make anything out of a bean. | 0:41:48 | 0:41:50 | |
-Thank you. Yes. -You really can. | 0:41:50 | 0:41:53 | |
-Come on, let's go. -Thank you. -This was delicious. -That was fantastic. | 0:41:54 | 0:41:58 | |
It's BEAN great. SHE CHUCKLES | 0:41:58 | 0:42:01 | |
But in the 1920s, | 0:42:10 | 0:42:12 | |
there was a man who wanted to shake up the Italian way | 0:42:12 | 0:42:15 | |
of living and thinking. | 0:42:15 | 0:42:17 | |
Everything, from the food they ate | 0:42:17 | 0:42:19 | |
to the attitude towards work and the state. | 0:42:19 | 0:42:22 | |
Fascist dictator Benito Mussolini | 0:42:23 | 0:42:26 | |
dreamt of restoring the glories of the past - | 0:42:26 | 0:42:29 | |
to turn a nation of spaghetti-eaters into gladiators, even gods. | 0:42:29 | 0:42:35 | |
In 1922 he came to power, | 0:42:36 | 0:42:39 | |
determined to transform what was still a very young and weak country. | 0:42:39 | 0:42:44 | |
So beautiful, isn't it? Look at that. | 0:42:46 | 0:42:49 | |
In Rome, he demolished old neighbourhoods, | 0:42:49 | 0:42:51 | |
creating new districts full of angular buildings | 0:42:51 | 0:42:54 | |
and a style known as fascist architecture. | 0:42:54 | 0:42:57 | |
It's really striking, isn't it? | 0:42:57 | 0:42:59 | |
We've come to visit one of his most symbolic architectural projects | 0:43:01 | 0:43:04 | |
in the northern part of Rome. | 0:43:04 | 0:43:06 | |
This is the Stadio dei Marmi, designed by Enrico Del Debbio. | 0:43:09 | 0:43:14 | |
This is very much Mussolini's vision for a new Italy - | 0:43:14 | 0:43:19 | |
strong, tall. | 0:43:19 | 0:43:21 | |
The statues evoke the ancient Roman idea of health, physique. | 0:43:21 | 0:43:28 | |
"If our boys can be trained up to win the 100m, the shot put, | 0:43:28 | 0:43:34 | |
"the boxing, then Italy can win a war. | 0:43:34 | 0:43:37 | |
"Italy can rule Europe." | 0:43:37 | 0:43:40 | |
The statues are made of Carrara marble. | 0:43:40 | 0:43:43 | |
-Each one has the name of a different province of Italy. -Yes. | 0:43:43 | 0:43:46 | |
So, apparently, each of the provinces was to... | 0:43:46 | 0:43:50 | |
They agreed to donate one of the statues. | 0:43:50 | 0:43:54 | |
-They "agreed". -THEY CHUCKLE | 0:43:54 | 0:43:56 | |
-Like they had much choice! -They agreed to donate a statue. | 0:43:56 | 0:44:00 | |
-Oh, I see. So, that's why Venice is the sailor. -Of course. | 0:44:00 | 0:44:05 | |
Football - that must be Milan, right? | 0:44:05 | 0:44:07 | |
THEY LAUGH | 0:44:07 | 0:44:09 | |
Have you noticed, they all have the same bottom? | 0:44:09 | 0:44:11 | |
It's the bottom of Michelangelo's David. | 0:44:11 | 0:44:14 | |
Also, they're all in this kind of Michelangelo pastiche. | 0:44:14 | 0:44:19 | |
Also, the same style as Hitler's statues. | 0:44:19 | 0:44:23 | |
-Yeah. -Arno Breker. This idea of the Aryan perfect body. | 0:44:23 | 0:44:27 | |
There's a bit of eugenics, I think, about this. | 0:44:27 | 0:44:30 | |
You know, "If we breed from the right stock, | 0:44:30 | 0:44:32 | |
"Italians will all grow to be 20ft tall." | 0:44:32 | 0:44:36 | |
The setting is incredible, | 0:44:36 | 0:44:38 | |
but I can't stop that little bit of sadness | 0:44:38 | 0:44:42 | |
to really think what this really represents - | 0:44:42 | 0:44:45 | |
this delusional moment, | 0:44:45 | 0:44:47 | |
this moment that Italy thought about themselves | 0:44:47 | 0:44:49 | |
really something that we are not. | 0:44:49 | 0:44:54 | |
Is there anywhere else in Europe than...? | 0:44:54 | 0:44:56 | |
Something like that was there from a previous regime | 0:44:56 | 0:44:58 | |
-would have been, like, blown away and broken down. -That's very Rome. | 0:44:58 | 0:45:02 | |
You know, if you want to find the sculptures created | 0:45:02 | 0:45:05 | |
to project Hitler's idea of Germany, you have to go to the storeroom | 0:45:05 | 0:45:08 | |
of the German Museum of History in Berlin. | 0:45:08 | 0:45:12 | |
If you want to see Stalin's great images of | 0:45:12 | 0:45:16 | |
the Soviet state as he envisaged it, | 0:45:16 | 0:45:18 | |
you have to go to the basement of the New Tretyakov Gallery. | 0:45:18 | 0:45:21 | |
But here in Rome, because, somehow, they have this tolerant attitude | 0:45:21 | 0:45:25 | |
that every part of history, its OK to have it remembered. | 0:45:25 | 0:45:30 | |
I don't think they celebrate it, but they leave it here, | 0:45:30 | 0:45:32 | |
maybe almost now for us as a kind of lesson of a mistake | 0:45:32 | 0:45:37 | |
that shouldn't be made again. | 0:45:37 | 0:45:38 | |
Salve. | 0:45:38 | 0:45:40 | |
Do you know, in this helmet, | 0:45:47 | 0:45:49 | |
you look a little bit like Mussolini? | 0:45:49 | 0:45:51 | |
Andrew, that's not a very nice thing to say. | 0:45:51 | 0:45:54 | |
Mussolini's idea of displaying power through architecture | 0:45:54 | 0:45:58 | |
was not a new concept. | 0:45:58 | 0:46:00 | |
It has been part of the Roman DNA | 0:46:03 | 0:46:05 | |
since the Caesars built monuments like the Colosseum. | 0:46:05 | 0:46:09 | |
This architecture of power reached its peak | 0:46:12 | 0:46:15 | |
during the age of the Baroque, | 0:46:15 | 0:46:17 | |
when one man above all others used stone and sculpture | 0:46:17 | 0:46:21 | |
to express the glory of the Christian church | 0:46:21 | 0:46:24 | |
in a multitude of breathtaking forms. | 0:46:24 | 0:46:27 | |
The great 17th-century sculptor, painter and architect | 0:46:28 | 0:46:31 | |
Gian Lorenzo Bernini was responsible for many great works, | 0:46:31 | 0:46:35 | |
including the colonnade of St Peter's, | 0:46:35 | 0:46:39 | |
the beautiful statues which line the Sant'Angelo Bridge, | 0:46:39 | 0:46:43 | |
and the masterpiece which stands in this square. | 0:46:43 | 0:46:48 | |
This is Piazza Navona. | 0:46:49 | 0:46:50 | |
This is one of the most beautiful squares in the world. | 0:46:50 | 0:46:53 | |
-Very unusual shape. -It's an unusual shape | 0:46:53 | 0:46:56 | |
because this was | 0:46:56 | 0:46:59 | |
Imperatore Domiziano Stadium for running. | 0:46:59 | 0:47:02 | |
So, the people used to run around here. | 0:47:02 | 0:47:05 | |
So, we've got the footprint of a stadium, | 0:47:05 | 0:47:07 | |
but now it's a Baroque square, and in the middle, | 0:47:07 | 0:47:11 | |
the most ambitious, perhaps the most brilliant | 0:47:11 | 0:47:14 | |
of Bernini's monuments to the power of the papal states. | 0:47:14 | 0:47:18 | |
-Look at that. -It's fantastic, isn't it? | 0:47:18 | 0:47:20 | |
You know, he very nearly didn't get to design this because | 0:47:20 | 0:47:23 | |
-the Pope who commissioned it, Innocent X... -Right. | 0:47:23 | 0:47:26 | |
..he didn't like Bernini | 0:47:26 | 0:47:28 | |
cos Bernini had done a lot of work for the Pope before. | 0:47:28 | 0:47:31 | |
Bernini played a clever trick, cos he had a female friend - | 0:47:31 | 0:47:34 | |
-an aristocratic friend - who was quite close to the Pope. -Mm. | 0:47:34 | 0:47:36 | |
And she, one day, took a silver model | 0:47:36 | 0:47:40 | |
that Bernini had made of a fountain - | 0:47:40 | 0:47:42 | |
an imaginary fountain - and took it into the Pamphili Palace. | 0:47:42 | 0:47:46 | |
That was the family palace of the Pope. | 0:47:46 | 0:47:49 | |
And he saw this silver model, | 0:47:49 | 0:47:52 | |
and he said, "Oh, that's my fountain. | 0:47:52 | 0:47:54 | |
"That's the fountain I've been dreaming of." | 0:47:54 | 0:47:56 | |
And she said, "Yes, but it's by Bernini." | 0:47:56 | 0:47:59 | |
And he said, "Oh, well, Bernini's going to have the job. | 0:47:59 | 0:48:03 | |
"I said no, but I've got to say yes cos it's so beautiful." | 0:48:03 | 0:48:06 | |
And this is how it turned out in marble. | 0:48:06 | 0:48:09 | |
-Is that all Carrara marble? -All Carrara marble | 0:48:11 | 0:48:14 | |
with an entire Egyptian obelisk | 0:48:14 | 0:48:16 | |
pillaged from ancient Egypt by the ancient Romans, | 0:48:16 | 0:48:19 | |
which was set up on top of Bernini's fountain. | 0:48:19 | 0:48:23 | |
So, the idea of the fountain is that the whole world - | 0:48:23 | 0:48:26 | |
symbolised by the great rivers of the four continents - | 0:48:26 | 0:48:30 | |
the whole world is cowering in awe of this papal erection, | 0:48:30 | 0:48:36 | |
this symbol of papal power. | 0:48:36 | 0:48:39 | |
Bernini is such a Roman. | 0:48:42 | 0:48:44 | |
You know, he's almost got Roman marble | 0:48:44 | 0:48:46 | |
in his veins instead of blood. | 0:48:46 | 0:48:49 | |
So, he knows very well that the ancient Roman sculptors | 0:48:51 | 0:48:55 | |
created these figures of the river gods. | 0:48:55 | 0:48:59 | |
But in Bernini, everything is about movement, motion, drama, theatre. | 0:48:59 | 0:49:03 | |
If the Roman river gods of the past have been woken up, | 0:49:09 | 0:49:12 | |
they've been dynamised and energised. | 0:49:12 | 0:49:15 | |
Each one has a different pose. | 0:49:15 | 0:49:17 | |
This one is the River Plate, the New World. | 0:49:17 | 0:49:20 | |
That's the Ganges. That's India. | 0:49:21 | 0:49:25 | |
Isn't that wonderful - the palm tree just sort of | 0:49:25 | 0:49:28 | |
growing up towards the base of the obelisk? | 0:49:28 | 0:49:32 | |
I mean, it's amazing, how it's made of this marble, | 0:49:32 | 0:49:35 | |
and the travertino. | 0:49:35 | 0:49:37 | |
And also this idea of the movement is incredible, isn't it? | 0:49:37 | 0:49:40 | |
Well, the lion is drinking. That's what it's doing. | 0:49:42 | 0:49:44 | |
The lion's come to drink. | 0:49:44 | 0:49:46 | |
-So, this is Africa. -What animal is that? | 0:49:46 | 0:49:50 | |
Is it a crocodile, an armadillo? | 0:49:50 | 0:49:51 | |
-What is it? -That's where you can see, in the sculpture, | 0:49:51 | 0:49:54 | |
the limits of his knowledge. He can do a lion... | 0:49:54 | 0:49:56 | |
-Oh, yeah. -..because they had lions in Baroque Rome. | 0:49:56 | 0:49:59 | |
They had... You know, they knew what they looked like. | 0:49:59 | 0:50:01 | |
But, yeah, I think it's meant to be an armadillo, | 0:50:01 | 0:50:05 | |
but it's almost like a dragon in a fairy story. | 0:50:05 | 0:50:08 | |
This fountain is one of the many works by Bernini | 0:50:10 | 0:50:13 | |
to have defined his public image as a great artist, | 0:50:13 | 0:50:18 | |
someone with the title "the man that built Baroque Rome". | 0:50:18 | 0:50:22 | |
But I want to scratch below the surface | 0:50:22 | 0:50:25 | |
to see what else Rome can reveal of him. | 0:50:25 | 0:50:29 | |
Bernini is all over this town, but as a man, | 0:50:29 | 0:50:33 | |
he remains, to most people, I think, quite mysterious. | 0:50:33 | 0:50:36 | |
It's as if you can't really touch his personality. | 0:50:36 | 0:50:39 | |
In fact, he was quite a troubled guy. | 0:50:40 | 0:50:43 | |
He was a very unsuccessful human being. | 0:50:43 | 0:50:46 | |
Yeah, you could put it like that. | 0:50:46 | 0:50:48 | |
He ordered his servant to disfigure his mistress. | 0:50:48 | 0:50:52 | |
He had a lot of problems with his brother. | 0:50:52 | 0:50:54 | |
So, at the centre of his life, there's this profound sense of guilt | 0:50:54 | 0:50:57 | |
and anxiety, but nowhere do you touch it in his work - | 0:50:57 | 0:51:00 | |
except one place, and that's where I want to take you. | 0:51:00 | 0:51:03 | |
Here - Spanish Embassy. | 0:51:03 | 0:51:05 | |
There are two sculptures that give you, if you like, | 0:51:05 | 0:51:08 | |
his personality, and we have an appointment. | 0:51:08 | 0:51:11 | |
OK, let's have a look. | 0:51:11 | 0:51:12 | |
This rarely-seen sculpture | 0:51:16 | 0:51:18 | |
was commissioned by the Spanish Cardinal Montoya in 1619 | 0:51:18 | 0:51:22 | |
when Bernini was only 20 years old. | 0:51:22 | 0:51:26 | |
I wanted you to see this cos this is the great Bernini | 0:51:26 | 0:51:30 | |
that no-one ever sees. | 0:51:30 | 0:51:32 | |
This is actually a self-portrait. | 0:51:32 | 0:51:35 | |
This is Bernini's face. | 0:51:35 | 0:51:37 | |
The vein going down his neck, like pumping blood into the... | 0:51:37 | 0:51:41 | |
Unbelievable. | 0:51:41 | 0:51:43 | |
I mean, his understanding of muscle and things is incredible. | 0:51:43 | 0:51:48 | |
The expression of the nose, the bags under his eyes... | 0:51:48 | 0:51:53 | |
It's like he's there for real. | 0:51:53 | 0:51:55 | |
One of Bernini's great gifts as an artist | 0:51:55 | 0:51:57 | |
would be the ability to turn marble into human expression. | 0:51:57 | 0:52:02 | |
Even Michelangelo doesn't capture this level of expression. | 0:52:02 | 0:52:07 | |
I actually can hear him screaming. | 0:52:07 | 0:52:10 | |
You're right, you can hear. You can hear the cry of anguish! | 0:52:10 | 0:52:14 | |
Bernini was a violent man. | 0:52:15 | 0:52:18 | |
When Bernini's brother slept with Bernini's mistress, | 0:52:18 | 0:52:21 | |
he was so enraged | 0:52:21 | 0:52:22 | |
that he tried to beat his brother to death with a steel bar. | 0:52:22 | 0:52:25 | |
His brother only survived by seeking sanctuary in a local church. | 0:52:25 | 0:52:29 | |
And Bernini then, very brutally, | 0:52:29 | 0:52:31 | |
ordered one of his servants to go and cut the face, | 0:52:31 | 0:52:35 | |
with a razor, of his mistress - | 0:52:35 | 0:52:37 | |
literally to disfigure her | 0:52:37 | 0:52:39 | |
for having injured his face, his reputation. | 0:52:39 | 0:52:43 | |
But do you know what it really represents? | 0:52:43 | 0:52:44 | |
Someone in torment. The soul condemned to damnation. | 0:52:44 | 0:52:48 | |
-Dannati. -So, there he is, screaming, | 0:52:48 | 0:52:51 | |
as he first sees that he's going to experience | 0:52:51 | 0:52:54 | |
the rest of his existence, all eternity, in the flames of hell. | 0:52:54 | 0:52:58 | |
But to fully understand this work of art, | 0:52:58 | 0:53:00 | |
we need to look at its twin - light to its darkness. | 0:53:00 | 0:53:04 | |
Come on this side, cos on this side, we've got the blessed soul - | 0:53:04 | 0:53:09 | |
the soul that goes to heaven. | 0:53:09 | 0:53:11 | |
Bernini placed both of the sculptures | 0:53:13 | 0:53:15 | |
5m away from the other one, | 0:53:15 | 0:53:17 | |
and each had to have a mirror behind it. | 0:53:17 | 0:53:20 | |
And, you know, when you look down mirrors, | 0:53:20 | 0:53:22 | |
you get this perspective of infinite time | 0:53:22 | 0:53:25 | |
-that these sculptures occupy. -Of course, because you can see... | 0:53:25 | 0:53:27 | |
So, whether you're damned or whether you're blessed, | 0:53:27 | 0:53:29 | |
you're going to be looking into infinity always. | 0:53:29 | 0:53:33 | |
I think maybe you're also meant to think about yourself. | 0:53:34 | 0:53:38 | |
Where am I going to be at the end of the day? | 0:53:38 | 0:53:40 | |
Am I going to be down in the flames of hell with him, | 0:53:40 | 0:53:45 | |
or am I going to be the one with eyes fixed heavenward? | 0:53:45 | 0:53:51 | |
Bernini has left an indelible mark on Rome. | 0:54:01 | 0:54:04 | |
But there is another less celebrated body of work | 0:54:06 | 0:54:09 | |
which is dotted all over the city, | 0:54:09 | 0:54:12 | |
and before we leave, we want to pay tribute to it. | 0:54:12 | 0:54:16 | |
You know these little Madonnas that we keep seeing... | 0:54:18 | 0:54:20 | |
-Yeah. -..here, there, everywhere? -Everywhere. | 0:54:20 | 0:54:22 | |
Apparently, there are 2,000 of these Madonnas... | 0:54:22 | 0:54:26 | |
-Yeah? -..here in Rome, and this is one of my favourites. | 0:54:26 | 0:54:31 | |
The Madonna of the Tunnel is what I call her. | 0:54:31 | 0:54:33 | |
I think, here, they call her Maria di Roma. | 0:54:33 | 0:54:37 | |
But isn't that such a wonderful thing? | 0:54:37 | 0:54:39 | |
A piece of folk art, probably been repainted... | 0:54:39 | 0:54:42 | |
..100, 200 times. | 0:54:43 | 0:54:45 | |
You know, this is a mile away from Annibale Carracci, | 0:54:45 | 0:54:49 | |
Caravaggio, Michelangelo, but I love it all the more for that. | 0:54:49 | 0:54:53 | |
It's so Roman. As you say, there's about 2,000 of them around. | 0:54:53 | 0:54:56 | |
So, that means that you have one Madonna, | 0:54:56 | 0:54:59 | |
I've got my Madonna, and he's got his Madonna. | 0:54:59 | 0:55:01 | |
-Every apartment block has its own Madonna. -That's right. | 0:55:01 | 0:55:04 | |
You know, there's people, they put this little statue, | 0:55:04 | 0:55:07 | |
they put a candle, they put the flowers. | 0:55:07 | 0:55:10 | |
They treat it almost like they might treat their mother's grave in the cemetery. | 0:55:10 | 0:55:15 | |
I love the fact that it's just so straightforward. | 0:55:15 | 0:55:18 | |
Look at these clumsy little... | 0:55:18 | 0:55:20 | |
They're like Roman babies in their nappies, | 0:55:20 | 0:55:23 | |
and they're just happy to be here holding up the Virgin's tunnel. | 0:55:23 | 0:55:29 | |
And the ceiling is actually, you know... | 0:55:29 | 0:55:31 | |
As folk art goes, that's kind of pretty brilliant, isn't it? | 0:55:31 | 0:55:34 | |
It's actually a fresco - real fresco. | 0:55:34 | 0:55:37 | |
HE CHUCKLES And it's just a pedestrian tunnel. | 0:55:37 | 0:55:40 | |
-How more Roman than that can you be? -That is incredible. | 0:55:40 | 0:55:43 | |
The beauty of this city is immense. There's no beauty like that. | 0:55:56 | 0:56:02 | |
After delving through the many layers of this great city, | 0:56:09 | 0:56:14 | |
we are ending our journey at Rome's foundations. | 0:56:14 | 0:56:18 | |
What a glorious scene. What beautiful light. | 0:56:21 | 0:56:25 | |
-This is incredible. -Amazing! | 0:56:25 | 0:56:28 | |
-That's the Colosseum down at the end there. -Yeah. | 0:56:28 | 0:56:30 | |
It's the corner. | 0:56:30 | 0:56:32 | |
Well, that's 2,000 years of history right there, | 0:56:32 | 0:56:34 | |
and looking down on it, you know, we're looking down | 0:56:34 | 0:56:37 | |
on the central site of all Roman archaeology - the Forum. | 0:56:37 | 0:56:41 | |
And in the past, when I've come here and looked at this view, | 0:56:41 | 0:56:45 | |
I've always imagined, in my mind, I always wondered, you know, | 0:56:45 | 0:56:49 | |
where's Emperor Nero, if we could go back in time? | 0:56:49 | 0:56:52 | |
Where are the senators? Where's Cicero? | 0:56:52 | 0:56:55 | |
-I'm not thinking that, though. -No. -I'm thinking, | 0:56:55 | 0:56:58 | |
"Hmm, I wonder where the artichoke seller would have been? | 0:56:58 | 0:57:02 | |
"I wonder where the butcher would have come in? | 0:57:02 | 0:57:04 | |
"Where's the Jewish cook?" | 0:57:04 | 0:57:06 | |
"Where is the little Jewish guy that does the recipe?" | 0:57:06 | 0:57:08 | |
We did the archaeology of a different city this time, didn't we? | 0:57:08 | 0:57:11 | |
-A different kind of archaeology. -We did, we did. | 0:57:11 | 0:57:14 | |
-This is super special. -Think of all the places that we haven't visited. | 0:57:14 | 0:57:19 | |
We haven't actually been down there in the Forum, | 0:57:19 | 0:57:21 | |
we haven't visited the Colosseum, we haven't seen the Sistine Chapel. | 0:57:21 | 0:57:25 | |
We've done our unpacked thing, where we, you know, | 0:57:25 | 0:57:28 | |
we stick to the edges, we go to the less well-known places. | 0:57:28 | 0:57:31 | |
But, you know, do we feel any worse for that? | 0:57:31 | 0:57:33 | |
Have we missed those other things? I don't think so. | 0:57:33 | 0:57:38 | |
In order to understand this Rome through history, | 0:57:39 | 0:57:43 | |
you've got to also understand the life of the normal people, | 0:57:43 | 0:57:47 | |
not only of the kings and the emperor. | 0:57:47 | 0:57:49 | |
-Yeah, yeah, I agree. -Or the popes. | 0:57:49 | 0:57:50 | |
I mean, maybe that's the truest version of history. | 0:57:50 | 0:57:52 | |
You know, you try to find the book that is lost | 0:57:52 | 0:57:54 | |
at the bottom of the library. | 0:57:54 | 0:57:56 | |
Try to turn the pages that no-one's read. | 0:57:56 | 0:57:58 | |
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