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I was so nearly born an American, I came that close. | 0:00:36 | 0:00:41 | |
In the 1950s, my father was offered a job at Princeton University | 0:00:41 | 0:00:44 | |
and he turned it down. | 0:00:44 | 0:00:46 | |
And so I was born not in NJ, but in NW3. | 0:00:46 | 0:00:51 | |
And I was born a Stephen, not a Steve. | 0:00:51 | 0:00:53 | |
But ever since I found this out at a later age, | 0:00:54 | 0:00:58 | |
I've been intensely curious to discover more | 0:00:58 | 0:01:00 | |
about the world of my other self - | 0:01:00 | 0:01:03 | |
this strange American, Steve. | 0:01:03 | 0:01:05 | |
MUSIC: "America" from West Side Story | 0:01:08 | 0:01:11 | |
Over the next months I and a trusty London cab, | 0:01:45 | 0:01:49 | |
albeit one hired in the US, | 0:01:49 | 0:01:51 | |
will be visiting each and every one | 0:01:51 | 0:01:53 | |
of the 50 of the United States Of America | 0:01:53 | 0:01:56 | |
to explore the continent that I came so close to calling home. | 0:01:56 | 0:02:00 | |
In this episode, I shall be travelling through the heart | 0:02:01 | 0:02:04 | |
of the region called New England, | 0:02:04 | 0:02:06 | |
before heading south to New York City and thence to New Jersey, | 0:02:06 | 0:02:10 | |
Delaware, Maryland and on to Washington DC and Pennsylvania. | 0:02:10 | 0:02:15 | |
The first stage of my journey is Maine, | 0:02:15 | 0:02:18 | |
and I'm at the very easternmost tip of the USA in the town of Eastport. | 0:02:18 | 0:02:22 | |
This is the lobster capital of the world | 0:02:22 | 0:02:25 | |
and I'm out on the water with the McPheil family, | 0:02:25 | 0:02:27 | |
who've been harvesting the bottom of the sea for three generations. | 0:02:27 | 0:02:31 | |
-So what do I do? -Make a pocket, make handfuls, | 0:02:31 | 0:02:34 | |
get it nice and tight, stitch it up. | 0:02:34 | 0:02:36 | |
-OK. -But you've got to make sure it stays closed, so the crabs don't pick the bait out. | 0:02:36 | 0:02:40 | |
-Nice and tight so they pick through here. -Oh, I see. | 0:02:40 | 0:02:43 | |
What would you say is the view most Americans have | 0:02:44 | 0:02:47 | |
of the State of Maine? | 0:02:47 | 0:02:49 | |
-Pine trees! -Pine trees? | 0:02:49 | 0:02:51 | |
-Moose, someone told me. -Moose. | 0:02:51 | 0:02:53 | |
The animal, not the pudding. | 0:02:53 | 0:02:55 | |
A lot of people think of lobsters but they don't realise how much work goes into it. | 0:02:55 | 0:02:59 | |
Maine lobster of course, yeah. | 0:02:59 | 0:03:00 | |
-Three out of four lobsters sold in America are Maine lobsters. -That's what they say. | 0:03:00 | 0:03:04 | |
What about the people? What is the characteristic of someone from Maine? | 0:03:04 | 0:03:08 | |
-What do you call yourselves? Mainians? Maniacs? -I've been called worse! | 0:03:08 | 0:03:12 | |
-What is the word? Is there an official word? -Hard workers, I guess. | 0:03:12 | 0:03:15 | |
Is that the view people have of Maine people? | 0:03:15 | 0:03:19 | |
I've worked away and when you mention you're from Maine, they'll hire you on the spot. | 0:03:19 | 0:03:23 | |
-No job application, nothing. -Really? -A good characteristic to have, I guess. -Superb. | 0:03:23 | 0:03:28 | |
These hardy New Englanders are mainly | 0:03:28 | 0:03:30 | |
of Scottish and Irish descent, | 0:03:30 | 0:03:31 | |
and have in spades that strong puritan work ethic | 0:03:31 | 0:03:34 | |
which has shaped so much of this country. | 0:03:34 | 0:03:37 | |
Oh, no. I've broken this one! | 0:03:37 | 0:03:39 | |
That's coming out of your pay. | 0:03:39 | 0:03:40 | |
-So how old do you reckon that sort of size is? -This lobster? -Yeah. | 0:03:40 | 0:03:44 | |
-I'd say it's probably 10, 12 years old. -Really? | 0:03:44 | 0:03:47 | |
How much would you sell that for? | 0:03:47 | 0:03:48 | |
-That's probably worth 20, 25 dollars. -25 dollars? -Boat price. | 0:03:48 | 0:03:51 | |
-By the time it's got to the restaurant? -Probably 60, 70 dollars. | 0:03:51 | 0:03:55 | |
-Yeah, it's not a fair world is it? With the farmer, the fishermen... -We do all the work. | 0:03:55 | 0:03:59 | |
-Absolutely. -The hardest part. | 0:03:59 | 0:04:01 | |
-We do the hardest part. -I know. You said "hardest part" - | 0:04:01 | 0:04:04 | |
now that's a bit like Boston, isn't it? It sounds almost Australian. "Hardest?" It's really unusual. | 0:04:04 | 0:04:10 | |
Back in Eastport, and the morning's catch is unloaded at Bob Del Papa's Chowder House. | 0:04:10 | 0:04:16 | |
Angus McPheil, lobster patriarch, has been lobstering all his life | 0:04:16 | 0:04:20 | |
and knows a thing or two about these snappy insects of the deep. | 0:04:20 | 0:04:23 | |
When you say "put to sleep", what does that mean exactly? | 0:04:23 | 0:04:26 | |
-How can you...? -Oh, just, you know, we usually... | 0:04:26 | 0:04:29 | |
play with them, kind of, you know... | 0:04:29 | 0:04:31 | |
stand it out, | 0:04:31 | 0:04:32 | |
kinda put their claws down... | 0:04:32 | 0:04:34 | |
-Yeah... -Rub their back, | 0:04:34 | 0:04:35 | |
kind of puts them paralysed, like... | 0:04:35 | 0:04:38 | |
So, it's now in a trance? | 0:04:38 | 0:04:40 | |
Can I try that? Cos they're definitely awake, aren't they? | 0:04:40 | 0:04:43 | |
-Oh, yeah, they're alive. -I mean that's...whoa! | 0:04:43 | 0:04:45 | |
See look, he's flapping away, so hang on, let's... | 0:04:45 | 0:04:49 | |
we put him down like this, | 0:04:49 | 0:04:51 | |
claws in a position... Is that right? | 0:04:51 | 0:04:54 | |
Yep. Just kind of... | 0:04:54 | 0:04:55 | |
HE SINGS A LULLABY | 0:04:55 | 0:04:58 | |
Look at that! | 0:05:03 | 0:05:04 | |
Here we go. | 0:05:05 | 0:05:07 | |
It's gone. I feel a bit cruel, but on the other hand... | 0:05:11 | 0:05:14 | |
Yay! | 0:05:14 | 0:05:15 | |
HE GASPS | 0:05:15 | 0:05:16 | |
They just...they're transformed, aren't they? | 0:05:16 | 0:05:19 | |
So different from the little brown speckly thing | 0:05:19 | 0:05:21 | |
you pull out the ocean. It's amazing. | 0:05:21 | 0:05:23 | |
-It's a lobster bib. You put it over your head... -HE LAUGHS | 0:05:23 | 0:05:26 | |
-Oh, yeah and tie it around your back. Oh, yeah. -Oh, my. -Maine people don't do that. | 0:05:26 | 0:05:31 | |
HE LAUGHS | 0:05:31 | 0:05:32 | |
Oh, great. Thank you! So suddenly, I'm the only one with one. | 0:05:32 | 0:05:35 | |
Where did this taxi cab come from? Did you have trouble? | 0:05:35 | 0:05:39 | |
Well, the thing is, Bob, in London I actually drive a taxi around. | 0:05:39 | 0:05:43 | |
I'm not a taxi driver. | 0:05:43 | 0:05:44 | |
-I was going to say, is that your profession, taxi cab? -No. -Oh, OK. | 0:05:44 | 0:05:47 | |
No, many people think it should be, | 0:05:47 | 0:05:49 | |
but it's just a very useful way of getting around the city! | 0:05:49 | 0:05:53 | |
So I leave Eastport and head south, | 0:06:03 | 0:06:06 | |
then west towards New Hampshire, my second state. | 0:06:06 | 0:06:10 | |
New Hampshire is well-known for its role | 0:06:14 | 0:06:16 | |
in the US presidential primaries. | 0:06:16 | 0:06:18 | |
Over the gruelling months of these preliminary elections, | 0:06:18 | 0:06:22 | |
all the presidential hopefuls trek to every corner of this small state, | 0:06:22 | 0:06:26 | |
each trying to convince the suddenly important New Hampshirite, | 0:06:26 | 0:06:29 | |
that they have what it takes to be chosen to lead their party | 0:06:29 | 0:06:32 | |
in the race to be the most powerful person on Earth. | 0:06:32 | 0:06:35 | |
Ah, fabulous. | 0:06:35 | 0:06:37 | |
Or Leader Of The Free World, as Americans prefer to put it. | 0:06:37 | 0:06:40 | |
How many here are Redsocks fans? | 0:06:40 | 0:06:42 | |
CHEERING | 0:06:42 | 0:06:44 | |
How many are also Yankees fans? | 0:06:45 | 0:06:48 | |
BOOING | 0:06:48 | 0:06:50 | |
How many of these kind of things does he do a day? | 0:06:50 | 0:06:53 | |
Erm, it depends on the schedule but today we have like, two major events | 0:06:53 | 0:06:57 | |
-and then a house party, which is our next event. -A house party? | 0:06:57 | 0:07:00 | |
-Yes. So it's a little smaller, more informal. -Intimate? | 0:07:00 | 0:07:03 | |
-He meets more people and actually shakes their hands? -Yeah. | 0:07:03 | 0:07:06 | |
But normally we can have, like, even five in a day. | 0:07:06 | 0:07:09 | |
-Yeah, and you've no idea what kind of people will be or what the questions will be? -No, no. | 0:07:09 | 0:07:14 | |
He just takes them as they come in. | 0:07:14 | 0:07:16 | |
That school in Maine that recently is allowing birth control for a middle school, | 0:07:16 | 0:07:22 | |
it's unbelievable. | 0:07:22 | 0:07:23 | |
Well, there's no question in my view | 0:07:23 | 0:07:26 | |
that one of the ways that you help instil, if you will, family values, | 0:07:26 | 0:07:29 | |
is by having the White House be a place that demonstrates family values. | 0:07:29 | 0:07:35 | |
-Stephen Fry, I'm from the BBC. -Nice to see you again. | 0:07:35 | 0:07:38 | |
-Your lovely Deirdre has been very kind to us. -Which way? We've got a picture in here. | 0:07:38 | 0:07:43 | |
For me the moral line that I would not cross - | 0:07:43 | 0:07:46 | |
and we had this in Massachusetts, is what would we make legal? | 0:07:46 | 0:07:49 | |
Well, there you are. Politics on the stump. It's rather marvellous. | 0:07:49 | 0:07:53 | |
It's very American. | 0:07:53 | 0:07:54 | |
It's a mixture of Halloween and clapboard houses | 0:07:54 | 0:07:56 | |
and sort of hokey politics, but it's rather splendid. | 0:07:56 | 0:07:59 | |
I don't think we have anything like this in Britain and, er, I have to say one can only approve. | 0:07:59 | 0:08:04 | |
I don't think he knew the questions and yes, it's the house of a supporter, | 0:08:04 | 0:08:09 | |
but he seemed to answer very well. I'm more interested in the process, though. | 0:08:09 | 0:08:12 | |
Democrat or Republican, it wouldn't matter, it's the style... | 0:08:12 | 0:08:16 | |
and I find it very likeable, very amiable, very American in that sense. | 0:08:16 | 0:08:20 | |
It's casual and I think all Americans have a sense of great connection and pride | 0:08:20 | 0:08:25 | |
about their democratic beginnings, and their sense of being involved | 0:08:25 | 0:08:29 | |
in the democratic process. | 0:08:29 | 0:08:31 | |
And that's something we could learn in Britain. | 0:08:32 | 0:08:35 | |
100 miles north, | 0:08:40 | 0:08:41 | |
and the White Mountains of New Hampshire | 0:08:41 | 0:08:43 | |
that straddle the border with Canada. | 0:08:43 | 0:08:45 | |
The Mount Washington Hotel in Bretton Woods, | 0:08:45 | 0:08:49 | |
built in 1902, has an illustrious past. | 0:08:49 | 0:08:52 | |
I'd heard of Bretton Woods, but wasn't sure what it was - | 0:08:52 | 0:08:54 | |
well, it's this place. | 0:08:54 | 0:08:55 | |
It was an international conference held here in 1944 that set up the World Bank, | 0:08:55 | 0:09:00 | |
the International Monetary Fund, tied world currencies to the dollar, | 0:09:00 | 0:09:04 | |
set up the gold standard at 35 an ounce... | 0:09:04 | 0:09:07 | |
Everything our prosperity depends on, really, started here. | 0:09:07 | 0:09:10 | |
Because for the first time in history, | 0:09:10 | 0:09:13 | |
instead of destroying the enemy, we set up conditions to rebuild. | 0:09:13 | 0:09:17 | |
And that's why Germany prospered in the '50s, | 0:09:17 | 0:09:19 | |
and that's why we all prospered too. | 0:09:19 | 0:09:22 | |
The Bretton Woods agreement and all that it stood for | 0:09:29 | 0:09:32 | |
is an enduring monument to American enlightened self-interest, | 0:09:32 | 0:09:35 | |
at a time when the US was at the peak of its power at the end of World War Two. | 0:09:35 | 0:09:40 | |
If only it were that simple, these days... | 0:09:40 | 0:09:43 | |
-Thank you. -Thank you. -Have a good trip. -Thank you very much. | 0:10:00 | 0:10:03 | |
My name is Mike, I'm going to be your brakeman today. | 0:10:03 | 0:10:06 | |
Back in the cab we have Joe and Pete, they're going to be our engineer and our fireman. | 0:10:06 | 0:10:12 | |
I'm on the world's first and still the greatest cog railway, | 0:10:17 | 0:10:22 | |
heading all the way to the top of the highest peak | 0:10:22 | 0:10:24 | |
in the north east of America, Mount Washington. | 0:10:24 | 0:10:28 | |
It's an exhilarating ride on a dizzying gradient. | 0:10:28 | 0:10:32 | |
When was this line built? | 0:10:32 | 0:10:34 | |
The line was built and established 1869. | 0:10:34 | 0:10:36 | |
-They actually started work on it 1866... -Wow. | 0:10:36 | 0:10:39 | |
and it took three years and 100 men to build the original tracks. | 0:10:39 | 0:10:42 | |
And, erm, the amount of fuel that you use for one of these journeys, how much coal? | 0:10:42 | 0:10:48 | |
-We use a ton of coal. -Really? | 0:10:48 | 0:10:51 | |
Much more efficient than previous trains | 0:10:51 | 0:10:53 | |
when the original trains were actually wood trains. | 0:10:53 | 0:10:56 | |
-And how much water does it take? -It takes about 1,000 gallons. | 0:10:56 | 0:10:59 | |
Just from the base to here we're going to burn about 300 gallons. | 0:10:59 | 0:11:03 | |
-Was it built for any purpose other than tourism? -Nope, solely for tourism. -Right. | 0:11:03 | 0:11:08 | |
-They used to have a hotel at the top. -A hotel at the top of the mountain? -Yep. | 0:11:08 | 0:11:12 | |
Mount Washington, or Agiocochook in the Native American language, | 0:11:12 | 0:11:16 | |
meaning "home of the great spirit", is the windiest place on the planet. | 0:11:16 | 0:11:20 | |
That's official. 231 miles per hour recorded on the 12th April, 1934. | 0:11:20 | 0:11:26 | |
But luckily, not today. | 0:11:26 | 0:11:28 | |
I'm on the summit of Mount Washington. | 0:11:28 | 0:11:31 | |
6,300 feet up and around me, all of New England lies. | 0:11:31 | 0:11:35 | |
There's New York State, Connecticut, there's Maine and Vermont, | 0:11:35 | 0:11:39 | |
and we are right in the middle of course, well, at the top half of New Hampshire. | 0:11:39 | 0:11:44 | |
Vermont, literally "green mountain", vert mont from the French | 0:11:52 | 0:11:57 | |
who initially colonised this land is very green, very wet and very milky. | 0:11:57 | 0:12:02 | |
Half a million cows worth, and from that milk | 0:12:02 | 0:12:05 | |
comes something that is as American as Apple Pie, | 0:12:05 | 0:12:08 | |
yet at the very cutting edge of culinary science. | 0:12:08 | 0:12:11 | |
30 years ago, two hippies called Ben Cohen and Jerry Greenfield | 0:12:11 | 0:12:16 | |
started making ice-cream here in Vermont. | 0:12:16 | 0:12:18 | |
Ben and Jerry's phenomenal success is built on continuously | 0:12:18 | 0:12:22 | |
experimenting with unusual new flavours and names. | 0:12:22 | 0:12:26 | |
So let's see what I can do. | 0:12:26 | 0:12:28 | |
We're going to start with our base. | 0:12:28 | 0:12:30 | |
-We've got vanilla ice-cream because we understand you are a fan? -I do love vanilla. | 0:12:30 | 0:12:34 | |
And it is a perfect base for any inclusions that you put in, | 0:12:34 | 0:12:37 | |
-any of the pieces or chunks. We've got a nice variety for you to choose from. -Toffee candy bars! | 0:12:37 | 0:12:42 | |
Between nuts, cookie pieces, er... | 0:12:42 | 0:12:44 | |
That's a very Ben and Jerry's thing, that you have real pieces, not just little bits. | 0:12:44 | 0:12:48 | |
-We like big hunks of chocolate. -Can I put these in? -Yeah. | 0:12:48 | 0:12:51 | |
-I'd say dump a good number of them and we'll have you stir that. -Oh, yeah. Walnuts, I think. | 0:12:51 | 0:12:56 | |
-Something a little more of your palate would be nice. -Walnuts, a little touch of sophistication. | 0:12:56 | 0:13:01 | |
That's what you're bringing to this! HE LAUGHS | 0:13:01 | 0:13:04 | |
Part of the Ben and Jerry's motif is we have to come up with a good name. | 0:13:04 | 0:13:07 | |
-A catchy name helps a flavour greatly. -Oh, right. | 0:13:07 | 0:13:10 | |
I was thinking possibly we could either go with Even Stephen... HE LAUGHS | 0:13:10 | 0:13:14 | |
and maybe do a little, like a blend of flavours down the side. | 0:13:14 | 0:13:18 | |
I'll tell you what though, it's quite cold! | 0:13:18 | 0:13:21 | |
Yeah. That's how we make it. | 0:13:21 | 0:13:23 | |
One last one, and then we can do some of the true test which is actually going to be eating the product. | 0:13:23 | 0:13:29 | |
-Wow. -Now squeeze together in there.. | 0:13:29 | 0:13:31 | |
-Oh, I think we've got a winner, don't you? -It's pretty good. | 0:13:35 | 0:13:39 | |
Right, fresh samples today, folks. This is going to be a real treat. | 0:13:39 | 0:13:43 | |
Ladies and gentlemen, I've mixed my own unique flavour which we're calling Even Stephen | 0:13:43 | 0:13:48 | |
and I'd like to know what you think, I think it's good, it's not too sweet and it delivers. | 0:13:48 | 0:13:53 | |
Anxious to know your opinion. | 0:13:53 | 0:13:55 | |
-Very good. -Mmm. -That's the walnuts! | 0:13:55 | 0:13:57 | |
Walnuts might be very crunchy. | 0:13:57 | 0:14:00 | |
The toffee's chewy, I wanted a chewiness and a crunchiness and a yielding mouth feel. | 0:14:00 | 0:14:05 | |
I'm making these words up as I go along, but they sound reasonably professional to me. | 0:14:05 | 0:14:09 | |
-Sounds good! -Oh, thank you. | 0:14:09 | 0:14:10 | |
It's that feeling of comfort you get. | 0:14:10 | 0:14:12 | |
An ice-cream delivers that in a hard and harsh and unpleasant world. | 0:14:12 | 0:14:17 | |
-We NEED ice-cream, that's my feeling. -THEY LAUGH | 0:14:17 | 0:14:20 | |
And so we say farewell, Vermont, state of Ben and land of Jerry | 0:14:24 | 0:14:30 | |
and we say hail, New York, | 0:14:30 | 0:14:32 | |
but not New York City, not the New York of Manhattan and Broadway. | 0:14:32 | 0:14:37 | |
This is New York State, a vast land dominated by the Adirondack chain of mountains with Niagara at the top, | 0:14:37 | 0:14:44 | |
they say it's the size of England. | 0:14:44 | 0:14:46 | |
The Adirondack Mountains were the first playground | 0:14:57 | 0:15:00 | |
of the super wealthy of that gilded age back at the beginning of the 20th century. | 0:15:00 | 0:15:05 | |
The Rockefellers and Vanderbilts built their so-called great camps | 0:15:05 | 0:15:09 | |
in the cool hills to escape the humid cities | 0:15:09 | 0:15:12 | |
where they'd made their millions. | 0:15:12 | 0:15:14 | |
But it was camping in a style and opulence never seen before or since. | 0:15:14 | 0:15:19 | |
This is Top Ridge, built originally by breakfast cereal heiress Marjorie Merriwether Post, | 0:15:33 | 0:15:40 | |
and now owned by a rich Texan family, | 0:15:40 | 0:15:42 | |
though it's Lawrence Leicester, the long serving caretaker, | 0:15:42 | 0:15:45 | |
who opens up the house for me. | 0:15:45 | 0:15:47 | |
-How many weeks of the year would the family be here? -About eight weeks. | 0:15:47 | 0:15:51 | |
-Eight weeks? -Eight weeks each year. | 0:15:51 | 0:15:53 | |
Oh, oh. Gosh. | 0:15:53 | 0:15:56 | |
Isn't that something? | 0:15:57 | 0:16:00 | |
Holy Moly! | 0:16:05 | 0:16:06 | |
Some sort of animal skin, isn't it? | 0:16:08 | 0:16:10 | |
That rather beats the headdress that I had when I was a little boy. | 0:16:12 | 0:16:15 | |
Crikey, that's a staircase. | 0:16:17 | 0:16:19 | |
What I love about this is that most rich Americans try to build houses that look European, | 0:16:19 | 0:16:26 | |
like chateaux or English castles but this is 100% American. | 0:16:26 | 0:16:29 | |
Everything about it is American. Skins and antlers, | 0:16:29 | 0:16:33 | |
everything's made of, sort of, it's a cabin, | 0:16:33 | 0:16:38 | |
but it's cabin as re-interpreted by someone with all the money in the world, really. | 0:16:38 | 0:16:43 | |
But it's not only the elite rich who come to the Adirondacks, plenty of blue collar workers come | 0:16:53 | 0:16:58 | |
to pursue their love of the great American outdoors, an outdoors that teems with game. | 0:16:58 | 0:17:03 | |
There's a hunting season for practically everything - bear, moose, squirrel, otter, | 0:17:03 | 0:17:07 | |
beaver, porcupine, great cat and small cat, weasel and wolverine. | 0:17:07 | 0:17:11 | |
You name it, they shoot it or trap it. | 0:17:11 | 0:17:14 | |
Right now, it's white-tailed deer season. | 0:17:14 | 0:17:17 | |
Here we've got some fresh deer nuggets, deer poo... | 0:17:17 | 0:17:19 | |
..and what we do with that, occasionally, is we'll rub that on our clothing, | 0:17:21 | 0:17:25 | |
-get it all over us so we smell like the deer... -Oh. | 0:17:25 | 0:17:30 | |
..occasionally we roll in the leaves, you want to get rid of your human scent as much as possible. | 0:17:30 | 0:17:35 | |
What does it actually smell like? Let me smell. | 0:17:35 | 0:17:38 | |
Deer poo? | 0:17:38 | 0:17:39 | |
-Yeah. That's, there's worse poo than that. -Oh, yeah. | 0:17:39 | 0:17:43 | |
But it's still poo, isn't it? | 0:17:43 | 0:17:45 | |
My clothes and that, I don't wash till the end of season. I change my underwear once or twice. | 0:17:45 | 0:17:49 | |
-You do? -A couple times. | 0:17:49 | 0:17:51 | |
-How does your wife respond to you smelling like that? -My ex-wife doesn't respond any more. -Ah. | 0:17:51 | 0:17:56 | |
-What's the plan, Bill? -Now we're gonna come up here, | 0:17:56 | 0:17:59 | |
we're gonna separate, and we're gonna get a couple of watchers over here to the right. | 0:17:59 | 0:18:04 | |
We're going to wait just a couple of minutes, let you guys get up in there. | 0:18:04 | 0:18:07 | |
So they're bedded right now and we're gonna jump them right out their nice warm bed. | 0:18:09 | 0:18:13 | |
You wouldn't mind if I said shall we shoot the deer | 0:18:13 | 0:18:17 | |
-in the sense of with a camera rather than with a gun. -We could do that. -We can let them go? Cos I am... | 0:18:17 | 0:18:22 | |
Catch and release. | 0:18:22 | 0:18:24 | |
-I do eat meat but... -Yeah. | 0:18:24 | 0:18:26 | |
I'm afraid I don't think I could bear the sight | 0:18:26 | 0:18:28 | |
-of a deer being killed. -We can do that. | 0:18:28 | 0:18:31 | |
They call this the green side of the Big Apple. | 0:18:34 | 0:18:37 | |
-Right. That's very good. -That's what they call us. | 0:18:37 | 0:18:40 | |
Not the rotten core. | 0:18:40 | 0:18:42 | |
Yeah, and... | 0:18:42 | 0:18:44 | |
-and people in New York City don't even know this is here. -No. | 0:18:44 | 0:18:48 | |
And the wind'll make a difference because if the wind was blowing | 0:18:48 | 0:18:52 | |
from behind us, they would smell us and avoid... | 0:18:52 | 0:18:55 | |
Deer are always gonna run into the wind. | 0:18:55 | 0:18:57 | |
Oh, is that right? | 0:18:57 | 0:18:59 | |
They'd rather smell what's ahead of 'em and know what's out there, | 0:18:59 | 0:19:02 | |
than look behind 'em to see what's following. | 0:19:02 | 0:19:05 | |
-There's something following 'em but they'll always go into the wind. -Yeah. | 0:19:05 | 0:19:09 | |
RUSTLING | 0:19:23 | 0:19:24 | |
RUSTLING | 0:19:28 | 0:19:29 | |
RUSTLING | 0:19:31 | 0:19:33 | |
Well, do I see it? | 0:19:42 | 0:19:43 | |
See what? | 0:19:43 | 0:19:45 | |
I just...just now. | 0:19:45 | 0:19:47 | |
Had the cross hairs on it. | 0:19:50 | 0:19:52 | |
If I'd been 50 yards lower, it would have had to come this way. | 0:19:55 | 0:19:59 | |
Did you see me up on the hill? | 0:20:02 | 0:20:03 | |
-At any point? -No. | 0:20:03 | 0:20:05 | |
I look and I go, "Look at that! There goes a tail." | 0:20:05 | 0:20:08 | |
Right by Mullarney's Rock. | 0:20:08 | 0:20:10 | |
Instead of driving straight down to New York City, | 0:20:14 | 0:20:17 | |
I'm heading back to the coast, | 0:20:17 | 0:20:19 | |
and into the State of Massachusetts, | 0:20:19 | 0:20:21 | |
the town most people associate with the War Of Independence. | 0:20:21 | 0:20:25 | |
Well, here's the city of Boston, | 0:20:27 | 0:20:28 | |
regarded by many Americans as the cradle of the revolution. | 0:20:28 | 0:20:31 | |
By revolution, they mean the independence wars | 0:20:31 | 0:20:34 | |
in which they fought us, the British, | 0:20:34 | 0:20:37 | |
for the right to govern themselves. And it all came to a head here, actually, | 0:20:37 | 0:20:41 | |
we're on the very bridge where the harbour was, | 0:20:41 | 0:20:44 | |
where a famous tea party took place. | 0:20:44 | 0:20:46 | |
What it actually was all about was money, as so many things are. | 0:20:46 | 0:20:50 | |
The Colonists, as they were known, the Americans, were fed up | 0:20:50 | 0:20:55 | |
with paying taxes to a parliament that didn't actually represent them. | 0:20:55 | 0:21:00 | |
There were no American MPs and yet they had to pay taxes. | 0:21:00 | 0:21:04 | |
And so their cry was, "No taxation without representation." | 0:21:04 | 0:21:08 | |
And things came to a head when the British put an extra tax on tea | 0:21:08 | 0:21:12 | |
so when a ship arrived with this tea, | 0:21:12 | 0:21:15 | |
they dressed up as what were then called Red Indians - | 0:21:15 | 0:21:18 | |
native American tribesmen - and dumped the whole lot | 0:21:18 | 0:21:22 | |
into the harbour. Worth...now it would be hundreds of thousands, | 0:21:22 | 0:21:25 | |
if not millions of pounds. It was one of the sparks that lit the tinder of the whole revolution. | 0:21:25 | 0:21:31 | |
How fitting then that I'm dropping in on a tea party | 0:21:33 | 0:21:35 | |
at one of the country's most famous institutions, Harvard University. | 0:21:35 | 0:21:39 | |
My host is Harvard's pastor and professor of divinity, Peter Gomes, | 0:21:39 | 0:21:43 | |
a black gay Republican Baptist, | 0:21:43 | 0:21:45 | |
with a very British way with a cup of tea. | 0:21:45 | 0:21:48 | |
-Gomes! -You've made my day. | 0:21:48 | 0:21:49 | |
-You've made my year. -I'm so thrilled to actually see you in the flesh! | 0:21:49 | 0:21:54 | |
-You are nice. -I even read your books! | 0:21:54 | 0:21:56 | |
-Well, you are one of a glistening minority of discriminatory people. -That's all right... | 0:21:56 | 0:22:02 | |
16 years, I think I'm right in saying, after the pilgrims hit Plymouth Rock, | 0:22:02 | 0:22:07 | |
a Cambridge man founded a university here in this very place. | 0:22:07 | 0:22:11 | |
Good man, John Harvard. | 0:22:11 | 0:22:13 | |
Now, I have to make one modest correction. | 0:22:13 | 0:22:15 | |
He didn't "found" the place, but he did something far more important than founding it, | 0:22:15 | 0:22:20 | |
he supported it, he gave it, er... | 0:22:20 | 0:22:22 | |
all of his books, half of his money and the legislator gave it his name. | 0:22:22 | 0:22:27 | |
-Ah, so it already existed before. -It already existed. | 0:22:27 | 0:22:30 | |
Not very long and it probably would have died in its cradle were it not for benefactions from John Harvard. | 0:22:30 | 0:22:36 | |
America often strikes me as entirely a land of contradictions, | 0:22:36 | 0:22:40 | |
almost anything you can say is true about it, | 0:22:40 | 0:22:43 | |
the opposite is true as well. It's a land of the free | 0:22:43 | 0:22:45 | |
and of a classless society, and yet it's ritzier in New York | 0:22:45 | 0:22:49 | |
in certain places, and certainly in Newport, | 0:22:49 | 0:22:52 | |
than it is in Britain, there's more class consciousness... | 0:22:52 | 0:22:55 | |
Which is what makes it an interesting country, | 0:22:55 | 0:22:58 | |
and a country that has a fascinating present | 0:22:58 | 0:23:01 | |
largely because it had to make up its past, | 0:23:01 | 0:23:04 | |
it doesn't have this long unbroken romantic stretch | 0:23:04 | 0:23:09 | |
to some primeval moment. | 0:23:09 | 0:23:11 | |
So you, you make things happen, you know? | 0:23:11 | 0:23:14 | |
Another reason that you have these examples of conspicuous wealth | 0:23:14 | 0:23:20 | |
is we can afford it. We've still got it, for better or worse. | 0:23:20 | 0:23:25 | |
People still aspire to enormous wealth, money's not a bad thing. | 0:23:25 | 0:23:31 | |
Puritans were not afraid of money at all. | 0:23:31 | 0:23:34 | |
Yes. Gore Vidal says that the puritans didn't leave Britain | 0:23:34 | 0:23:39 | |
and go to America so as to be free from persecution, | 0:23:39 | 0:23:43 | |
they went so they could be free to persecute. | 0:23:43 | 0:23:45 | |
HE LAUGHS | 0:23:45 | 0:23:47 | |
Well, there is alas more truth to that than I would like to admit | 0:23:47 | 0:23:51 | |
as a former President of the Pilgrims Society, | 0:23:51 | 0:23:54 | |
but it is true that they did NOT come to the New World | 0:23:54 | 0:23:59 | |
to set up some utopian, "I'm OK, you're OK" society. That was not at all what it was, | 0:23:59 | 0:24:06 | |
they came to set up a just and righteous society, | 0:24:06 | 0:24:09 | |
and that usually means that somebody's unjust and unrighteous. | 0:24:09 | 0:24:13 | |
And there were religious people saying that the reason for 9/11 was because | 0:24:13 | 0:24:17 | |
there were gays and decadence in New York and that was the reason, but you're not having any of that? | 0:24:17 | 0:24:22 | |
One of the many things one can say about this country is that we dislike complexity, | 0:24:22 | 0:24:27 | |
so we will make simple solutions to everything that we possibly can. | 0:24:27 | 0:24:33 | |
Even when the complex answer is obviously the correct answer, | 0:24:33 | 0:24:37 | |
or intriguing answer, we want a simple yes or no, | 0:24:37 | 0:24:41 | |
or a flat-out this, or an absolutely certain that... | 0:24:41 | 0:24:44 | |
and the notion that God could have two thoughts simultaneously | 0:24:44 | 0:24:49 | |
and people adhere to him who don't look or talk like us | 0:24:49 | 0:24:53 | |
is just hard for many Americans to believe. | 0:24:53 | 0:24:56 | |
The persecution and intolerance that characterised | 0:24:58 | 0:25:01 | |
the early days of the conquest of the New World | 0:25:01 | 0:25:04 | |
were never more clearly seen than here in the town of Salem, | 0:25:04 | 0:25:07 | |
on the outskirts of Boston. | 0:25:07 | 0:25:09 | |
The witch trials of 1692 obsessed the colonies. | 0:25:09 | 0:25:13 | |
Of the 150 women accused, 19 were eventually hanged. | 0:25:13 | 0:25:18 | |
Today is Halloween and modern Salem is awash with witches once more, | 0:25:18 | 0:25:23 | |
some more serious than others. | 0:25:23 | 0:25:27 | |
Laurie Cabot, the high priestess of Salem, is a stout defender | 0:25:27 | 0:25:31 | |
of their civil right to practise their religion. | 0:25:31 | 0:25:34 | |
Are you really a witch? Is Wiccan your religion? | 0:25:34 | 0:25:38 | |
-Is that the word for it? -Witchcraft is my religion. | 0:25:38 | 0:25:40 | |
Erm, Wicca has become a colloquialism meaning witchcraft, | 0:25:40 | 0:25:45 | |
you know, so people don't have to say the "W" word. | 0:25:45 | 0:25:49 | |
-Right. -But it's witchcraft, yes, | 0:25:49 | 0:25:51 | |
-and it is a legal religion in America, you know. -It's recognised? | 0:25:51 | 0:25:55 | |
It's recognised by the Constitution. | 0:25:55 | 0:25:58 | |
-Right. -And protected, supposedly. Hopefully. | 0:25:58 | 0:26:01 | |
Christianity wasn't kind to witchcraft, or supposed witchcraft. | 0:26:01 | 0:26:05 | |
-Here in Salem, the most famous... -Right, that was not witchcraft. | 0:26:05 | 0:26:08 | |
That was a Christian definition of the word "witch", | 0:26:08 | 0:26:12 | |
and then applied to people, you know, | 0:26:12 | 0:26:14 | |
that they wanted to get rid of, I think, | 0:26:14 | 0:26:17 | |
or take their properties, but it was the wrong definition. | 0:26:17 | 0:26:21 | |
Christianity still has the wrong definition of what witches are. | 0:26:21 | 0:26:25 | |
ANNOUNCER: As we get ready for our circle... | 0:26:25 | 0:26:29 | |
Tonight is the opening of both worlds. | 0:26:29 | 0:26:32 | |
-The world of our ancestors and our world. -And you don't call it Halloween, do you? | 0:26:32 | 0:26:37 | |
Oh, absolutely not. | 0:26:37 | 0:26:39 | |
-What do you call it? -Erm...Samhain. | 0:26:39 | 0:26:40 | |
-Samhain? -Samhain. Erm, it is a night, one of the most holy nights, | 0:26:40 | 0:26:45 | |
because we're starting our new year, Summer is over, winter is starting. | 0:26:45 | 0:26:51 | |
We're calling upon our ancestors' spirits to speak to us, | 0:26:51 | 0:26:55 | |
to come and lend us their wisdom. | 0:26:55 | 0:26:58 | |
-Right. So that's the connection with the dead rising, is it? -Exactly. | 0:26:58 | 0:27:01 | |
The frosted air blows and changes... | 0:27:01 | 0:27:08 | |
..changes summer to winter and the wheel of the year turns once more... | 0:27:10 | 0:27:16 | |
Love you. | 0:27:19 | 0:27:21 | |
Yes! | 0:27:22 | 0:27:23 | |
Happy New Year! Happy New Year. | 0:27:23 | 0:27:26 | |
Well, as a matter of fact, it's no longer Halloween. | 0:27:29 | 0:27:32 | |
It's actually All Hallows Day or if you're a witch, | 0:27:32 | 0:27:34 | |
it's the beginning of a mad, merry new year. | 0:27:34 | 0:27:37 | |
Or if you're a Stephen, it's bedtime. | 0:27:37 | 0:27:41 | |
This is Narragansett Bay, Rhode Island. | 0:27:42 | 0:27:45 | |
and a little further down the coast is my next state, Connecticut. | 0:27:45 | 0:27:48 | |
But somehow I seem to be helping crew the Weatherly, | 0:27:48 | 0:27:51 | |
a 12 metre class yacht which won the Americas Cup back in 1962. | 0:27:51 | 0:27:56 | |
This is sailing as it should be and my crew, unlike me, | 0:27:56 | 0:28:00 | |
have that fit confidence and blonde assurance that have inspired a million Ralph Lauren | 0:28:00 | 0:28:04 | |
and Tommy Hilfiger commercials. | 0:28:04 | 0:28:06 | |
Very American, very attractive. Slightly too perfect. | 0:28:06 | 0:28:10 | |
The crew are giving me a lift down the coast on my way to a different | 0:28:31 | 0:28:35 | |
but no less exciting type of boat. | 0:28:35 | 0:28:37 | |
Groton in Connecticut is home to the US Navy nuclear submarine force, | 0:28:37 | 0:28:42 | |
the undersea guarantors of the deadly authority of the world's only superpower. | 0:28:42 | 0:28:47 | |
Oh, Lord. Am I going down there? | 0:28:57 | 0:28:59 | |
Ooh, this is not me at my best. | 0:29:01 | 0:29:04 | |
And this, Stephen, is the control room. | 0:29:06 | 0:29:08 | |
This is where we dive and drive the boat from. | 0:29:08 | 0:29:11 | |
This guy steers the boat and the outboard station that works, excuse me... | 0:29:11 | 0:29:15 | |
Yes, the outboard station over here is in charge of the stern... | 0:29:15 | 0:29:20 | |
So you really literally steer it in these seats rather like a kind of gaming arcade. | 0:29:20 | 0:29:25 | |
Absolutely, absolutely. | 0:29:25 | 0:29:27 | |
And is that what I think it is? | 0:29:27 | 0:29:28 | |
-Is that a periscope? -It is. | 0:29:28 | 0:29:30 | |
Oh, I say, I couldn't, could I? | 0:29:30 | 0:29:32 | |
It's a long ambition of mine, the idea that I would one day... | 0:29:32 | 0:29:35 | |
Raising number one periscope! | 0:29:35 | 0:29:38 | |
Up scope. Aah! | 0:29:38 | 0:29:40 | |
-Oh, my God! -This is a little more old fashioned than the number two periscope. -Old fashioned is good. | 0:29:41 | 0:29:47 | |
Oh, my. Oh, my. | 0:29:47 | 0:29:49 | |
The zoom is fantastic. | 0:29:49 | 0:29:52 | |
Oh, a kitchen! | 0:29:52 | 0:29:54 | |
Oh, my word. | 0:29:54 | 0:29:56 | |
HE LAUGHS | 0:29:57 | 0:29:59 | |
Oh, good, we're going to sit down and eat. | 0:29:59 | 0:30:02 | |
-So what do you call this, a mess? -A crew's mess, yes. -A crew's mess. | 0:30:02 | 0:30:05 | |
It's where the crew eats, the officers have a separate messing area. | 0:30:05 | 0:30:09 | |
-They have a ward room. -Yep. Oh, they do get looked after a bit more, do they get served? | 0:30:09 | 0:30:13 | |
-They do get served, yeah. -So you've got 100 and how many mariners? -30. | 0:30:13 | 0:30:17 | |
-130. So obviously you have to do it in staggered shifts. -Absolutely. 24 at a time. | 0:30:17 | 0:30:22 | |
-HE LAUGHS -Oh, I like that. | 0:30:22 | 0:30:23 | |
And do women fall on you like that if they've heard you've volunteered? | 0:30:23 | 0:30:28 | |
-Well, I'm married, Stephen... -You wouldn't want that to happen, sorry! | 0:30:28 | 0:30:31 | |
What's your average tour down...submerged? | 0:30:31 | 0:30:34 | |
Six, between six and eight months. | 0:30:34 | 0:30:36 | |
Six and eight months! | 0:30:36 | 0:30:38 | |
In this cramped environment with 130 other...men and women or just men? | 0:30:38 | 0:30:43 | |
Just men, just men. We're pretty much the only submarine force left that hasn't incorporated women. | 0:30:43 | 0:30:48 | |
That's quite surprising. That's interesting. | 0:30:48 | 0:30:50 | |
-Is that simply because there isn't room for extra facilities and so on? -Correct, yeah. | 0:30:50 | 0:30:55 | |
-We'd have to have a different head, or bathroom... -Yeah. -Loo, I guess you'd say. | 0:30:55 | 0:30:59 | |
No, I think in the British Navy, they say heads as well, but... | 0:30:59 | 0:31:02 | |
And different berthing areas. We just don't have the facilities right now. | 0:31:02 | 0:31:06 | |
So six months? Is that because after that people start going mad? | 0:31:06 | 0:31:09 | |
Er, actually, the only thing that limits how long we can be underway is the amount of food that we can carry, | 0:31:09 | 0:31:15 | |
so six months is usually how long, | 0:31:15 | 0:31:17 | |
but we can stay out indefinitely if we could carry the food. | 0:31:17 | 0:31:20 | |
Oh my goodness, are these the quarters? They look... | 0:31:20 | 0:31:23 | |
That's one of the three main berthing areas on the ship, | 0:31:23 | 0:31:26 | |
or the boat as we call it. | 0:31:26 | 0:31:28 | |
So, privacy is not a word that you're used to? | 0:31:28 | 0:31:30 | |
No. Not at all. STEPHEN LAUGHS | 0:31:30 | 0:31:31 | |
-This is a torpedo? -It is a torpedo. | 0:31:31 | 0:31:34 | |
It's a fully functioning torpedo, the only exception is because it's painted orange, | 0:31:34 | 0:31:39 | |
that means it's an exercise weapon, so it doesn't have explosive in it. | 0:31:39 | 0:31:42 | |
-Oh, OK. And this? -This is a, er...Tomahawk missile. | 0:31:42 | 0:31:47 | |
Whoa, Tomahawk! So that's a really serious piece of weaponry? | 0:31:47 | 0:31:51 | |
-It is. -That can travel how far? | 0:31:51 | 0:31:54 | |
Er, over 1,000 nautical miles and hit the area the size of a chalkboard. | 0:31:54 | 0:31:57 | |
This is Newport, Rhode Island. | 0:32:02 | 0:32:06 | |
This is the dead centre of town. | 0:32:09 | 0:32:12 | |
-HE LAUGHS -The dead centre of town! | 0:32:12 | 0:32:15 | |
These enormous houses, or cottages as the rich call them with rather knowing irony, I think, | 0:32:19 | 0:32:26 | |
they were just here for the fresh air that Newport offers as opposed to the stifling humidity | 0:32:26 | 0:32:30 | |
of New York in the summer months, so they were only lived in for a very short period of time. | 0:32:30 | 0:32:36 | |
Now, they're mostly owned by the Preservation Trust that tries to keep them | 0:32:36 | 0:32:41 | |
from falling down because the kind of multi-billionaires who live now don't want to live in this style. | 0:32:41 | 0:32:47 | |
Amazing. | 0:32:47 | 0:32:49 | |
Oatsie Charles is the doyen of Newport's old money. | 0:32:49 | 0:32:53 | |
She now lives in converted stables attached to one of these so-called cottages, | 0:32:53 | 0:32:57 | |
a house that was once home to the celebrated novelist of Newport's heyday, Edith Wharton. | 0:32:57 | 0:33:01 | |
-Can you tell me why they call them cottages and why they came here? -Snob appeal, I guess. | 0:33:01 | 0:33:06 | |
-They thought it was funny to build a huge mansion and call it a cottage? -I wasn't here then! | 0:33:06 | 0:33:11 | |
No, you weren't! But you know about the history? | 0:33:11 | 0:33:14 | |
-There's your drink... don't forget that. -HE LAUGHS | 0:33:14 | 0:33:17 | |
So there... | 0:33:17 | 0:33:19 | |
is a very beautiful girl. | 0:33:19 | 0:33:21 | |
Who would that be? | 0:33:21 | 0:33:23 | |
-That's Mammy Whiting. -And who's the lovely girl on the right? -That's me. | 0:33:23 | 0:33:28 | |
That's you. I can recognise those cheekbones and that jawline. | 0:33:28 | 0:33:31 | |
We dressed every night for dinner. | 0:33:31 | 0:33:33 | |
We went out practically every night. | 0:33:33 | 0:33:36 | |
The houses were still fully staffed. | 0:33:36 | 0:33:39 | |
-Hmm. -And formally staffed. | 0:33:39 | 0:33:41 | |
I mean, you know, footmans... | 0:33:41 | 0:33:43 | |
-In livery? -In livery. | 0:33:43 | 0:33:45 | |
-Yeah. -What's that word? -Livery. | 0:33:45 | 0:33:47 | |
-HE LAUGHS -It sounds weird! Uniform. | 0:33:47 | 0:33:49 | |
-Not weird. -You don't use "livery"? | 0:33:49 | 0:33:51 | |
And what kind of sizes of staff are we talking about in... | 0:33:51 | 0:33:54 | |
back in the day when it was really the place? | 0:33:54 | 0:33:57 | |
-I would think at a minimum ten or twelve. -Right. | 0:33:57 | 0:34:01 | |
One of the people who lived here was the great novelist Edith Wharton, who was the chronicler, really, | 0:34:01 | 0:34:07 | |
the nonpareil of, er, of the upper...what do they call the upper? | 0:34:07 | 0:34:11 | |
-Classes. -The upper classes. It was a number, she had... | 0:34:11 | 0:34:14 | |
-400. -The upper 400. | 0:34:14 | 0:34:16 | |
-Why were they called that? -Just the 400. | 0:34:16 | 0:34:18 | |
Just the 400. Why were they called the 400? | 0:34:18 | 0:34:20 | |
Because that's what Mrs Astor's ballroom in New York could hold. | 0:34:20 | 0:34:25 | |
Oh, so if you were one of those... if you were important enough, | 0:34:25 | 0:34:30 | |
if you were 401, you were a social outcast, ruin... | 0:34:30 | 0:34:33 | |
As we say in Alabama, tough titty. | 0:34:33 | 0:34:35 | |
-Tough titty. -HE LAUGHS. | 0:34:35 | 0:34:37 | |
And I suppose the best known family, | 0:34:39 | 0:34:42 | |
certainly in dynastic terms in America, to a Briton at least, | 0:34:42 | 0:34:46 | |
must be the Kennedys. | 0:34:46 | 0:34:48 | |
-Oh, I went to the wedding. -Did you? | 0:34:48 | 0:34:50 | |
And it was too funny, because... Oh, my, it was really so awful. | 0:34:50 | 0:34:57 | |
HE LAUGHS | 0:34:57 | 0:35:00 | |
All Jackie's family, friends... | 0:35:00 | 0:35:04 | |
were on this side, | 0:35:04 | 0:35:06 | |
and we all looked just the way we did - | 0:35:06 | 0:35:09 | |
always in Newport, you were sort of slightly underdressed unless there was some big occasion. | 0:35:09 | 0:35:14 | |
-Right. -And this was just Jackie getting married. | 0:35:14 | 0:35:17 | |
THEY LAUGH | 0:35:17 | 0:35:20 | |
And on this side were the Kennedys. | 0:35:20 | 0:35:24 | |
All in frock coats and...? | 0:35:24 | 0:35:25 | |
I mean, they were dressed to the nines, | 0:35:25 | 0:35:28 | |
and the difference between the two sides was simply fascinating. | 0:35:28 | 0:35:33 | |
So really, the Kennedys tried a bit too hard to be into the old money... | 0:35:33 | 0:35:38 | |
They were just not part of... | 0:35:38 | 0:35:39 | |
No, because they were Boston Irish, and they were Catholic, | 0:35:39 | 0:35:43 | |
and above all he was a racketeer, wasn't he, Joe? | 0:35:43 | 0:35:45 | |
-Let's be honest, we can't deny that. -Attractive though. -Joe was attractive, was he? | 0:35:45 | 0:35:50 | |
For all that he was a Nazi sympathiser and a criminal? | 0:35:50 | 0:35:52 | |
-Really horrible, but never mind. -Horrible but attractive. | 0:35:52 | 0:35:56 | |
That's fair, people are! I'm the other thing - | 0:35:56 | 0:35:58 | |
incredibly nice but not very attractive. | 0:35:58 | 0:36:00 | |
A short ride and it's the Big Apple. | 0:36:10 | 0:36:13 | |
I have a date with a fellow cabbie, John Mancuna, | 0:36:13 | 0:36:17 | |
an Irish-American who lives in the predominantly Italian borough of Queens, | 0:36:17 | 0:36:21 | |
but like most cabbies, plies his actual trade mainly in Manhattan. | 0:36:21 | 0:36:25 | |
-Ooh, hello there. -Hey, Steve. | 0:36:28 | 0:36:30 | |
-Hi. -Welcome to New York. -You must be John? -Yes, that's it. | 0:36:30 | 0:36:33 | |
Well, as I told you when I called you up, | 0:36:33 | 0:36:35 | |
-it'd be great to come to a cab garage to have my cab looked at. -You know where the dipstick is in this? | 0:36:35 | 0:36:41 | |
-Yeah. -You do? Good luck. See if he can find it. | 0:36:41 | 0:36:43 | |
Is this it here? | 0:36:43 | 0:36:45 | |
-Yes. -You see. You're right. -English side, that's it. -Because usually, | 0:36:45 | 0:36:49 | |
the steering wheel is on this side, you see. | 0:36:49 | 0:36:51 | |
-Yes. -What do you reckon? -You need some oil. -I do, don't I? -Yeah. -John, that's yours, is it? | 0:36:51 | 0:36:56 | |
-Yes, that's mine but.. -I love the flower. | 0:36:56 | 0:36:58 | |
Today we're gonna go in the black taxi. | 0:36:58 | 0:37:00 | |
Yeah, I'm going to take you in... | 0:37:00 | 0:37:02 | |
What's going on now in Manhattan is class cleansing. | 0:37:04 | 0:37:07 | |
All neighbourhoods, no matter what colour, | 0:37:07 | 0:37:10 | |
are being cleansed of poor people, like Harlem, | 0:37:10 | 0:37:13 | |
which was predominantly African American - now that's all changing. | 0:37:13 | 0:37:16 | |
The wealthier people are buying up the brownstones. | 0:37:16 | 0:37:19 | |
The Lower East Side are moving out all the immigrants | 0:37:19 | 0:37:22 | |
and wealthier people are moving in. | 0:37:22 | 0:37:24 | |
So all of Manhattan is just being cleansed of a lower and middle class | 0:37:24 | 0:37:29 | |
that are moving out to Brooklyn, Queens and the Bronx. | 0:37:29 | 0:37:32 | |
So that's what's going on. | 0:37:32 | 0:37:33 | |
I notice with cab drivers that a huge number are from the Ukraine, | 0:37:33 | 0:37:39 | |
-from India, Bangladesh and, er...all kinds of countries. -Yeah. | 0:37:39 | 0:37:42 | |
-It's quite rare now to get one who seems to have been born in New York. -Yeah. | 0:37:42 | 0:37:46 | |
There's 60,000 drivers, 10% would be native born. | 0:37:46 | 0:37:50 | |
The yellow cab now is worth 600,000 dollars, and that's called | 0:37:50 | 0:37:53 | |
-the medallion that you would buy for the yellow cab. -Oh, my. | 0:37:53 | 0:37:56 | |
So it's a huge investment, whoever wants to buy one. | 0:37:56 | 0:38:01 | |
-Do you get used to seeing people and telling from their body posture...? -Yes. -Then you just drive on. | 0:38:01 | 0:38:06 | |
-By the way they dress. -Yeah. -A lot of these guys like to dress like gangsters, | 0:38:06 | 0:38:10 | |
have the hood over their head, the pants hanging around their ass, right? And the baseball cap sideways. | 0:38:10 | 0:38:17 | |
Well, I say if you're going to look and act like a gangster, | 0:38:17 | 0:38:20 | |
I'm going to pass you up like a gangster. After an 11-hour shift, you're at a light, | 0:38:20 | 0:38:24 | |
it's 3 am and you hear both doors open and guys jump in and go, "Yo, my man, | 0:38:24 | 0:38:27 | |
"we're heading up to the South Bronx." And like, the hair on the back of the head, yeah. | 0:38:27 | 0:38:32 | |
HE LAUGHS Oh, not at this hour. | 0:38:32 | 0:38:34 | |
So you've run them off and then at first you're saying, "Oh, God, please don't rob me!" | 0:38:34 | 0:38:38 | |
Then as you get closer, you say, "All right, you don't even have to tip me, just pay me!" | 0:38:38 | 0:38:43 | |
Then as you see the neighbourhood you say, "Listen, just jump, please. I'll take the loss, I don't care." | 0:38:43 | 0:38:49 | |
And someone was asking me about, "What are the benefits? | 0:38:49 | 0:38:52 | |
"What's your retirement plan like?" I said my retirement plan is 4.30 in the morning, | 0:38:52 | 0:38:57 | |
a 9mm to the back of the head in the South Bronx, and I said that's when I've retired. | 0:38:57 | 0:39:01 | |
The Big Apple, of course, is not just the Isle of Manhattan. | 0:39:07 | 0:39:10 | |
I'm keen to explore the other boroughs, the people that make up the quintessential New York City. | 0:39:10 | 0:39:16 | |
So John is taking me to a rather special place | 0:39:16 | 0:39:18 | |
in the Italian neighbourhood of Queens, | 0:39:18 | 0:39:21 | |
to meet one such tribe, the Goodfellas, | 0:39:21 | 0:39:24 | |
the petty and not so petty types made famous in The Godfather and The Sopranos. | 0:39:24 | 0:39:29 | |
This is their social club. | 0:39:29 | 0:39:33 | |
-So this is it, eh? -This is it. | 0:39:33 | 0:39:36 | |
You might get in, I don't know if you're gonna get out. | 0:39:36 | 0:39:38 | |
-HE LAUGHS -Hi there. | 0:39:38 | 0:39:39 | |
There's tea, coffee, cake, soda in the refrigerator. | 0:39:39 | 0:39:43 | |
-Fantastic. -Help yourself! | 0:39:43 | 0:39:44 | |
Well. Hello, gentlemen. | 0:39:44 | 0:39:47 | |
-Oh, hey. -Oh, hey. | 0:39:47 | 0:39:49 | |
I'm Stephen. And you are? | 0:39:49 | 0:39:52 | |
Rick. | 0:39:52 | 0:39:54 | |
-Stephen, that's Larry. -Larry, hi. | 0:39:54 | 0:39:55 | |
-Joe. -And Joseph. -Joe. -David. | 0:39:55 | 0:39:58 | |
-David. -Mike D'Angelo. | 0:39:58 | 0:40:00 | |
Mike...there had to be a Mikey. | 0:40:00 | 0:40:02 | |
Hey that's it, a Mikey. | 0:40:02 | 0:40:03 | |
Hey, a Mikey! Well, this is...what a place. | 0:40:03 | 0:40:06 | |
-I've always dreamt if being in one of these. Er, you seem to be pretty keen on your sports? -Yeah. | 0:40:06 | 0:40:10 | |
We've got racing, football, a whole wall of Yankee...New York Yankees. | 0:40:10 | 0:40:14 | |
-Every Yankee World Series team. -Baseball team. -Wow. | 0:40:14 | 0:40:17 | |
Tell me something I've always wanted to know. | 0:40:17 | 0:40:20 | |
There's a thing you get in movies right, in which people are described as running numbers. | 0:40:20 | 0:40:25 | |
-What does that mean? -They have the racetrack... -Yeah... | 0:40:25 | 0:40:29 | |
..and they have how much money is bet on a racetrack. | 0:40:29 | 0:40:32 | |
-What, the whole total? -The whole total. | 0:40:32 | 0:40:34 | |
And it's got racetrack total and the last three numbers, | 0:40:34 | 0:40:38 | |
if you're lucky enough to play it, you'll win some money. | 0:40:38 | 0:40:41 | |
-Oh, so you predict... -Right. | 0:40:41 | 0:40:43 | |
..how much in the course of the whole afternoon at the racetrack... | 0:40:43 | 0:40:46 | |
Let's say you wanted to play your birthday, and it was 410. | 0:40:46 | 0:40:49 | |
-Yeah. -You put a dollar on 410. | 0:40:49 | 0:40:51 | |
Next day you look at the paper, | 0:40:51 | 0:40:53 | |
at the end of the racing "track total handle". | 0:40:53 | 0:40:57 | |
-So it could be anything from 000 to 999? -To 999. | 0:40:57 | 0:41:00 | |
So what are the ways to get an edge on anybody, to get an edge on a bookie or...? | 0:41:00 | 0:41:04 | |
Listen, it's real hard today to get an edge. | 0:41:04 | 0:41:07 | |
-We wouldn't be sitting in this club if they knew how to do that, all right? -Yeah. | 0:41:07 | 0:41:10 | |
-You know how you get an edge? -Yeah. -See this phone? -Yeah. | 0:41:10 | 0:41:13 | |
You're in here with the bookmaker. | 0:41:13 | 0:41:16 | |
-Yeah. -I'm at the racetrack. -Right. | 0:41:16 | 0:41:19 | |
The horse is going right over the finishing line. | 0:41:19 | 0:41:21 | |
-Yeah. -He's number eight. | 0:41:21 | 0:41:23 | |
I press number eight on here. | 0:41:23 | 0:41:25 | |
You've got your cell phone. | 0:41:25 | 0:41:27 | |
-Yeah. -Your cell phone will ring. The first number will be eight, that's the winner of the race. | 0:41:27 | 0:41:31 | |
Now you're talking to the bookmaker, say, "Excuse me, I've got to answer the phone." | 0:41:31 | 0:41:36 | |
-You see eight, make a little conversation, "Talk to you later, I'm busy." -Give me eight. | 0:41:36 | 0:41:40 | |
Give me number eight. And you've got the winner. | 0:41:40 | 0:41:43 | |
Who's going to tell me why there's a bullet hole on the door here? | 0:41:43 | 0:41:46 | |
The bullet hole was a Friday when we had a card game. | 0:41:46 | 0:41:48 | |
Somebody parked their car and they shot six bullets into there. | 0:41:48 | 0:41:52 | |
Can you see the one in the wall over there, | 0:41:52 | 0:41:55 | |
-there's a hole, that ain't a mouse hole, that's a bullet hole. -Oh, my. -See it? -Yeah. | 0:41:55 | 0:42:00 | |
One went through and hit one of the players and it missed his head. It grazed his forehead. | 0:42:00 | 0:42:05 | |
-That went all the way through? Wow. -And when he said, when my friend got grazed in his head, | 0:42:05 | 0:42:11 | |
he called an ambulance and he says, "I'm shot in the head!" | 0:42:11 | 0:42:14 | |
so the ambulance driver says, the person over the phone says, "How do you know?" | 0:42:14 | 0:42:18 | |
He says, "There's a hole in my head and blood's coming out! | 0:42:18 | 0:42:21 | |
"How do you think I know I got shot?" | 0:42:21 | 0:42:23 | |
-So what's your nickname? -Big Time. | 0:42:23 | 0:42:25 | |
Why are you called Big Time? | 0:42:25 | 0:42:27 | |
Because I've done some movies. I've been in about 300 movies. | 0:42:27 | 0:42:30 | |
-I'm always playing a gangster in the movies. -Yeah. | 0:42:30 | 0:42:33 | |
-I knew the part De Niro played in that movie, in Goodfellas? -Yeah? | 0:42:33 | 0:42:36 | |
Yeah, I knew the guy he played. | 0:42:36 | 0:42:38 | |
He played... Well, the guy's name was Jimmy The Gent. | 0:42:38 | 0:42:41 | |
-Yeah. -Well, listen, I knew the real Jimmy The Gent and I told De Niro, | 0:42:41 | 0:42:46 | |
-when he went to go visit him in jail, to ask him questions. -Yeah. | 0:42:46 | 0:42:50 | |
De Niro says, "Listen, this movie ain't going to help my parole," | 0:42:50 | 0:42:53 | |
he told De Niro, "so take a walk!" STEPHEN LAUGHS | 0:42:53 | 0:42:57 | |
-and I told him the exact phrase, I don't want to mention it... -Yeah. | 0:42:57 | 0:43:00 | |
But the exact phrase, how he told him, | 0:43:00 | 0:43:02 | |
so De Niro turned around and says, "Mick, you really knew the guy?" | 0:43:02 | 0:43:06 | |
I says listen...and that's how I became friends with De Niro. | 0:43:06 | 0:43:09 | |
Wow. Goodbye, everybody. | 0:43:09 | 0:43:11 | |
Goodbye, now. Nice to see you. | 0:43:11 | 0:43:12 | |
Bye! Nice to see you all. | 0:43:12 | 0:43:15 | |
-God bless you. -And next time, we'll give you it all when you come in. | 0:43:15 | 0:43:20 | |
Before I head off to New Jersey, I have a quick fare to pick up | 0:43:21 | 0:43:26 | |
in the shape of a more recent immigrant to the City. | 0:43:26 | 0:43:29 | |
MUSIC: "Englishman In New York" by Sting | 0:43:29 | 0:43:32 | |
Taxi! | 0:43:38 | 0:43:39 | |
-I've always loved it here. -Yeah. -I mean, the British here | 0:43:39 | 0:43:43 | |
are pretty invisible, we don't look like a community. | 0:43:43 | 0:43:48 | |
-No. -The only place you'll find us in numbers is one of the pubs downtown. | 0:43:48 | 0:43:52 | |
-If there's football on? -On a Saturday morning. -Yes. | 0:43:52 | 0:43:54 | |
You are now an Englishman in New York of course. That's your... | 0:43:54 | 0:43:58 | |
One of my favourite songs I play here. It was also adopted by Jamaicans, | 0:43:58 | 0:44:02 | |
there's a Jamaican In New York song, | 0:44:02 | 0:44:04 | |
Croatian, you know, everyone. THEY LAUGH | 0:44:04 | 0:44:07 | |
Written their own version of it, which I don't mind. | 0:44:07 | 0:44:11 | |
Of course. So people just change the one word in it and do a cover version of it? | 0:44:11 | 0:44:16 | |
Oh, that's wonderful. | 0:44:16 | 0:44:17 | |
# A Bosnian-Herzegovinian in New York... # | 0:44:17 | 0:44:19 | |
It doesn't quite scan, Stephen. | 0:44:19 | 0:44:22 | |
-HE LAUGHS -This is why I'm not in your business! -Stick to the acting. | 0:44:22 | 0:44:26 | |
Down the coast from New York in the state of New Jersey, Atlantic City's Boardwalk was, | 0:44:40 | 0:44:46 | |
between the wars, the playground of America, the queen of resorts. | 0:44:46 | 0:44:49 | |
After flatlining in the 70's, it's re-invented itself | 0:44:49 | 0:44:52 | |
as the gambling capital of the eastern seaboard. | 0:44:52 | 0:44:55 | |
-Thank you very much. -You're welcome. -I'll be very smart, won't I? Splendid. | 0:44:55 | 0:45:01 | |
Let's, er, let's play cards. | 0:45:01 | 0:45:03 | |
I am to be initiated into the charmed circle of washers and dealers on the blackjack table | 0:45:12 | 0:45:17 | |
by a representative of one of the latest waves of immigrants, Vietnamese croupier Kelly. | 0:45:17 | 0:45:22 | |
You put them in there? Oh, I see. | 0:45:22 | 0:45:25 | |
-And take out. -Now take the whole lot out? | 0:45:26 | 0:45:29 | |
I see, it's just a way of squaring them off. | 0:45:29 | 0:45:31 | |
-And now, they've got to go in here? -No, no, no, no! -Whoa! | 0:45:31 | 0:45:34 | |
-Oh, more? Oh. -Now wash. | 0:45:34 | 0:45:37 | |
-And now we just? -Wash. -Wash. | 0:45:37 | 0:45:40 | |
Grab a few, square them off? | 0:45:40 | 0:45:42 | |
-Away to you. -Oh, to me, so they don't see the... | 0:45:42 | 0:45:45 | |
-Facing you, yes. -Yeah. Facing me so they don't see the... | 0:45:45 | 0:45:48 | |
And then, back in here? So now they go in the shoe? | 0:45:48 | 0:45:52 | |
-No, shuffle. -Wait for the...? -Shuffle. | 0:45:52 | 0:45:54 | |
Shuffle again? But we just shuffled them! | 0:45:54 | 0:45:56 | |
-No, that's a wash. -That's the wash? | 0:45:56 | 0:45:58 | |
-Yes. -Now we shuffle? -Now shuffle. | 0:45:58 | 0:46:00 | |
Oh, my. So like... | 0:46:00 | 0:46:01 | |
-Uh-uh. -No. | 0:46:01 | 0:46:03 | |
Cut in half. | 0:46:07 | 0:46:09 | |
-Make sure they're even. -Right, two halves... | 0:46:09 | 0:46:12 | |
-like so. -And now... | 0:46:12 | 0:46:14 | |
-cut another one. -Into two packs? | 0:46:14 | 0:46:16 | |
Yeah. | 0:46:16 | 0:46:18 | |
Oh, my. You're very good. | 0:46:20 | 0:46:24 | |
So... | 0:46:24 | 0:46:25 | |
No, you pick one of these and shuffle. | 0:46:25 | 0:46:29 | |
I pick...what, like that? And then like that? | 0:46:29 | 0:46:31 | |
You have it there. | 0:46:31 | 0:46:33 | |
Of course. What a fool I am! | 0:46:33 | 0:46:36 | |
There we go. Do you want to double up? | 0:46:40 | 0:46:44 | |
I imagine you would. | 0:46:44 | 0:46:45 | |
-I don't care if he spends my money! -Good situation. | 0:46:45 | 0:46:47 | |
Oh, you take it. Sorry, that's your card. | 0:46:47 | 0:46:50 | |
-Oh, yes! -Oh, yes, what? He has won. | 0:46:50 | 0:46:53 | |
-Don't say "oh, yes". -Sorry. | 0:46:53 | 0:46:55 | |
So do you reckon in your gambling, your gaming, any of you have made a profit? | 0:46:55 | 0:47:00 | |
-Yes. -You do well? | 0:47:00 | 0:47:01 | |
A lot, a fortune. | 0:47:01 | 0:47:03 | |
-A fortune? -I built a house on it. | 0:47:03 | 0:47:06 | |
-Really? On this game? -Absolutely. | 0:47:06 | 0:47:08 | |
I wouldn't be surprised if they put a small plaque up there to commemorate that. That's wonderful. | 0:47:08 | 0:47:12 | |
SHE LAUGHS That's so fabulous! | 0:47:12 | 0:47:14 | |
This is a great personality. | 0:47:14 | 0:47:16 | |
-A small plaque! -Right. | 0:47:16 | 0:47:18 | |
One more? | 0:47:18 | 0:47:20 | |
What's the biggest amount you've seen someone win? | 0:47:20 | 0:47:25 | |
A couple of million. | 0:47:25 | 0:47:27 | |
A couple of million! | 0:47:27 | 0:47:28 | |
-And lose the same? -Lose the same. | 0:47:28 | 0:47:31 | |
-You know. -Amazing, isn't it? | 0:47:31 | 0:47:33 | |
So, it's a good living to be a croupier? | 0:47:33 | 0:47:35 | |
It's a desirable job, is it? | 0:47:35 | 0:47:38 | |
Is there a lot of people who want to be a croupier? | 0:47:38 | 0:47:40 | |
You have a lot of demand? A lot of people come to the school? | 0:47:40 | 0:47:43 | |
-Yes. -And what about tips? What's the biggest tip you've been given? Might you get a 5,000 chip? | 0:47:43 | 0:47:48 | |
-Yeah. -You really won it as a tip? -Yeah. -Wow. | 0:47:48 | 0:47:52 | |
Gambling is on the increase in America | 0:47:52 | 0:47:54 | |
as more and more states, realising how much revenue could be gained, license more and more legal casinos. | 0:47:54 | 0:48:00 | |
And while I have nothing against gambling per se, the effects are truly devastating. | 0:48:00 | 0:48:06 | |
Many have been ruined by their addiction, easily as toxic as any drug. | 0:48:06 | 0:48:09 | |
In the end, the house always wins. | 0:48:09 | 0:48:12 | |
It's irrefutable arithmetic and as embodied in these trashy, tawdry palaces, | 0:48:12 | 0:48:18 | |
I personally find the whole business vulgar, | 0:48:18 | 0:48:20 | |
tasteless and desperately sad, but maybe that's just me. | 0:48:20 | 0:48:24 | |
Now we're crossing the Delaware River which takes us from New Jersey to the State of Delaware | 0:48:30 | 0:48:36 | |
and it was here, on Christmas Day 1776, | 0:48:36 | 0:48:40 | |
that George Washington sneakily crossed with his Continental Army | 0:48:40 | 0:48:44 | |
and delivered a massive defeat to the British allies, the Battle Of Trenton. | 0:48:44 | 0:48:49 | |
He did it in midwinter. God knows what it must have been like. | 0:48:49 | 0:48:52 | |
There's a very famous painting actually, which I have here, | 0:48:52 | 0:48:55 | |
of that very scene, Washington crossing the Delaware. | 0:48:55 | 0:48:59 | |
It's entered into American myth and legend | 0:48:59 | 0:49:01 | |
as one of the turning points in their history. | 0:49:01 | 0:49:04 | |
God, it must have been cold. | 0:49:04 | 0:49:05 | |
Delaware. What can we say about Delaware? | 0:49:07 | 0:49:10 | |
Well, Delawareans will tell you proudly that theirs was the first state | 0:49:10 | 0:49:14 | |
to be incorporated into the Union, | 0:49:14 | 0:49:16 | |
so it's important for that reason. | 0:49:16 | 0:49:18 | |
But there's a certain generation, my mother included, | 0:49:18 | 0:49:21 | |
who would first associate it with a Perry Como song. | 0:49:21 | 0:49:25 | |
"What did Delaware boys, what did Della wear? | 0:49:25 | 0:49:29 | |
"She wore a brand new jersey. | 0:49:29 | 0:49:33 | |
"Why did Cali phone ya? | 0:49:33 | 0:49:35 | |
"Why did Cali phone?" | 0:49:35 | 0:49:38 | |
MUSIC: "Delaware" by Perry Como | 0:49:39 | 0:49:42 | |
From Delaware, I've crossed into Maryland and over the Chesapeake Bay | 0:49:48 | 0:49:52 | |
and yes, I know I'm short-changing these charming states | 0:49:52 | 0:49:56 | |
but I have a rendezvous to keep in the nation's capital, Washington DC. | 0:49:56 | 0:50:00 | |
Not strictly a state at all, but merely a district. | 0:50:00 | 0:50:04 | |
It's an attractive mix of imposing architecture, nationalistic symbols, | 0:50:04 | 0:50:08 | |
broad boulevards, the 19th century grandeur of Lincoln's memorial, | 0:50:08 | 0:50:13 | |
the White House and Capitol Hill. It feels more European, | 0:50:13 | 0:50:16 | |
a product of the enlightenment, fit to stand alongside Berlin, | 0:50:16 | 0:50:20 | |
St Petersburg, Paris. | 0:50:20 | 0:50:22 | |
I'm meeting up with the newest purveyor of the enlightenment, | 0:50:22 | 0:50:25 | |
a modern day Diderot. | 0:50:25 | 0:50:26 | |
Jimmy Wales was the founder of the most compendious encyclopaedia ever, | 0:50:26 | 0:50:31 | |
Wikipedia. | 0:50:31 | 0:50:32 | |
How many people work for Wikipedia? | 0:50:32 | 0:50:34 | |
-Er...ten people, worldwide. -Good Lord. | 0:50:34 | 0:50:36 | |
Just ten. We're the number eight website on the internet now, so... | 0:50:36 | 0:50:40 | |
and those ten are, other than the one guy who's like community liaison, | 0:50:40 | 0:50:44 | |
pretty much don't edit Wikipedia at all. | 0:50:44 | 0:50:47 | |
They're tasked with keeping the servers running, | 0:50:47 | 0:50:50 | |
answering the phones, dealing with the press, things like that. | 0:50:50 | 0:50:53 | |
So not just the entries but the checking of other things, of alterations, | 0:50:53 | 0:50:57 | |
the acceptance or denial of little extras, | 0:50:57 | 0:51:00 | |
-all that is done by volunteers? -Volunteers, yeah. | 0:51:00 | 0:51:03 | |
Just the main community members, the really active people. | 0:51:03 | 0:51:07 | |
The administrators, all volunteers. | 0:51:07 | 0:51:09 | |
And just working in their spare time, or... | 0:51:09 | 0:51:12 | |
So, unlike Google, which is probably the best known | 0:51:12 | 0:51:15 | |
and certainly, probably at the moment, | 0:51:15 | 0:51:18 | |
er...700 a share or something. | 0:51:18 | 0:51:21 | |
Well, we're actually a charity. | 0:51:21 | 0:51:23 | |
We're a non-profit organisation. | 0:51:23 | 0:51:24 | |
You don't? So you haven't... | 0:51:24 | 0:51:26 | |
-I'm not talking to one of the famous dotcom billionaires then? -Oh, gosh, no. -No? | 0:51:26 | 0:51:30 | |
-No. -How extraordinary that you should create something | 0:51:30 | 0:51:34 | |
that is so well known, is used by so many people, | 0:51:34 | 0:51:37 | |
and still have not polluted it with adverts and things like that. | 0:51:37 | 0:51:41 | |
Yeah, well, I mean, for me Wikipedia is something... | 0:51:41 | 0:51:46 | |
I think it's something that can be really special | 0:51:46 | 0:51:48 | |
and I think the core community is guided by that idea, | 0:51:48 | 0:51:51 | |
so whatever criticisms are received, | 0:51:51 | 0:51:54 | |
well, we take it very seriously because we want to be good. | 0:51:54 | 0:51:57 | |
And I think when people look back on the early days of the internet - | 0:51:57 | 0:52:02 | |
which this still is very much the early days of the internet - | 0:52:02 | 0:52:05 | |
you know, 200 years from now, 500 years from now, | 0:52:05 | 0:52:07 | |
they'll say, "That was something that was good." | 0:52:07 | 0:52:10 | |
There was spam and there was pop-up ads and nonsense on the internet | 0:52:10 | 0:52:14 | |
but this is something we remember that was worth doing. | 0:52:14 | 0:52:17 | |
To me that, as an American, it is a bit of pride in that respect that, | 0:52:17 | 0:52:23 | |
especially in this era when America has a very bad reputation | 0:52:23 | 0:52:27 | |
around the world in many ways and for many reasons, but what's interesting about American culture, | 0:52:27 | 0:52:33 | |
is that there is still some very strong old values that really are, | 0:52:33 | 0:52:37 | |
to me, very good and inspirational. | 0:52:37 | 0:52:39 | |
Freedom of speech, and the idea that ordinary people | 0:52:39 | 0:52:42 | |
can come together and build something, | 0:52:42 | 0:52:44 | |
and, you know, ideas about sort of, like, can-do spirit. | 0:52:44 | 0:52:50 | |
Ladies and gentlemen, The President Of The United States. | 0:52:50 | 0:52:54 | |
FANFARE PLAYS | 0:52:54 | 0:52:58 | |
Thank you for that warm welcome. | 0:53:02 | 0:53:04 | |
AUDIENCE LAUGHS | 0:53:04 | 0:53:06 | |
Good evening, ladies and gentlemen. I'm George W Bush, President Of The United States. | 0:53:06 | 0:53:11 | |
-But on a more serious note... -AUDIENCE LAUGHS | 0:53:11 | 0:53:14 | |
DC is truly a company town. | 0:53:14 | 0:53:17 | |
That the company happens to be the US Government, makes it all the more interesting. | 0:53:17 | 0:53:21 | |
Venality, corruption, incompetence, | 0:53:21 | 0:53:24 | |
lying, cheating, philandering, | 0:53:24 | 0:53:26 | |
filibustering, gerrymandering. | 0:53:26 | 0:53:28 | |
They're all words that come to mind here. | 0:53:28 | 0:53:31 | |
Luckily the Fourth Amendment guarantees free speech, | 0:53:31 | 0:53:34 | |
luckily, that is, for satirical groups like Capitol Steps. | 0:53:34 | 0:53:37 | |
Work with me, people. OK? Thank you. AUDIENCE LAUGHS | 0:53:37 | 0:53:40 | |
Barrie Byrne, like most of the Capitol Steps troupe, | 0:53:40 | 0:53:44 | |
started off in a Government job on the hill but then turned from gamekeeper to poacher. | 0:53:44 | 0:53:49 | |
Is this the source of most of your material then? | 0:53:49 | 0:53:52 | |
This is the source of much of our material. | 0:53:52 | 0:53:54 | |
The rest of it comes from, of course, The White House. | 0:53:54 | 0:53:57 | |
Now recently, I spoke to you from my library | 0:53:57 | 0:54:00 | |
where I admitted that we made mistakes in the handling of the war in Iraq. | 0:54:00 | 0:54:04 | |
Many people were shocked - to see me in a library. | 0:54:04 | 0:54:06 | |
AUDIENCE LAUGHS | 0:54:06 | 0:54:08 | |
I noticed on the programme that, well, politicians seem to like you. | 0:54:08 | 0:54:14 | |
They were also very critical of myself and the NSA for wiretapping American citizens. | 0:54:14 | 0:54:20 | |
They feel like any publicity is good publicity. | 0:54:20 | 0:54:23 | |
But you know I don't understand what all the fuss is about. | 0:54:23 | 0:54:26 | |
I mean for years I have been criticised for not listening to the American people. | 0:54:26 | 0:54:31 | |
It's comedy gold, | 0:54:31 | 0:54:33 | |
it's comedy gold. | 0:54:33 | 0:54:34 | |
# Three little Kurds who want formation | 0:54:34 | 0:54:36 | |
# Of a Kurdish sovereign nation | 0:54:36 | 0:54:38 | |
# Where we'll be free for ululation! # | 0:54:38 | 0:54:40 | |
A-la-la-la-la! | 0:54:40 | 0:54:41 | |
# Three little Kurds from school | 0:54:41 | 0:54:43 | |
# Three little Kurds from school! # | 0:54:43 | 0:54:46 | |
Politics is the main industry here. | 0:54:55 | 0:54:58 | |
Politics and businesses around it | 0:54:58 | 0:55:02 | |
seem to feed into that. | 0:55:02 | 0:55:04 | |
Lobbyists, for example, | 0:55:04 | 0:55:06 | |
there are many, a lot of associations are headquartered here. | 0:55:06 | 0:55:11 | |
It's amazing how it is a self-perpetuating business, | 0:55:11 | 0:55:14 | |
that each administration will come with its own problems | 0:55:14 | 0:55:17 | |
and we'll be sitting right there waiting to jump on them. | 0:55:17 | 0:55:22 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:55:22 | 0:55:25 | |
Many great men and women have filed in and out of this Willard hotel, | 0:55:31 | 0:55:36 | |
but none greater, and certainly none more revered than Abraham Lincoln, | 0:55:36 | 0:55:40 | |
who actually lived here at the Willard in the period between his election | 0:55:40 | 0:55:44 | |
and his inauguration into the White House. | 0:55:44 | 0:55:46 | |
And I suppose Lincoln is best known and remembered | 0:55:46 | 0:55:49 | |
for a certain speech he made on a battlefield in Pennsylvania. | 0:55:49 | 0:55:53 | |
Did you make this great address over the bodies of the slain, | 0:55:55 | 0:56:00 | |
sort of a day after the battle? | 0:56:00 | 0:56:02 | |
No, the graves were still places where people would be buried, | 0:56:02 | 0:56:06 | |
there were caskets... | 0:56:06 | 0:56:07 | |
80 miles to the west of the capital, | 0:56:07 | 0:56:09 | |
the serenity of Gettysburg today belies the savagery of the battle | 0:56:09 | 0:56:13 | |
that was fought here over three days in July, 1863. | 0:56:13 | 0:56:17 | |
The Union victory was the turning point | 0:56:17 | 0:56:19 | |
in the Civil War against the Confederates of the South. | 0:56:19 | 0:56:22 | |
On November the 19th that year, President Lincoln came to the battlefield | 0:56:22 | 0:56:26 | |
to dedicate this cemetery to the nation, | 0:56:26 | 0:56:29 | |
and deliver what has become the most famous speech in American history. | 0:56:29 | 0:56:33 | |
Well, I was asked to make a few appropriate remarks. | 0:56:33 | 0:56:36 | |
I was not to be the main speaker, Edward Everett... | 0:56:36 | 0:56:38 | |
Jim Getty, a perfect Abe-alike, has been working the heritage trail for nearly half a century. | 0:56:38 | 0:56:44 | |
Can you run them by me? | 0:56:44 | 0:56:45 | |
Well, I wanted to go back to where we had started, | 0:56:45 | 0:56:48 | |
87 years ago in Philadelphia. | 0:56:48 | 0:56:49 | |
Er...four score and seven years ago, | 0:56:49 | 0:56:52 | |
our fathers brought forth on this continent a new nation, | 0:56:52 | 0:56:56 | |
conceived in liberty, dedicated to the proposition that all men are created equal. | 0:56:56 | 0:57:02 | |
Now we are engaged in a... | 0:57:02 | 0:57:04 | |
MOURNFUL MUSIC PLAYS | 0:57:04 | 0:57:08 | |
..that this nation, under God, shall have a new birth of freedom. | 0:57:12 | 0:57:16 | |
And the government of the people, by the people, for the people, | 0:57:16 | 0:57:21 | |
shall not perish from the earth. | 0:57:21 | 0:57:24 | |
The 270 words of Lincoln's address, that lasted barely two minutes, | 0:57:24 | 0:57:29 | |
have entered popular culture because they so concisely and eloquently | 0:57:29 | 0:57:33 | |
summed up the high ideals | 0:57:33 | 0:57:35 | |
of what the Union hoped the Republic would become after the war was won. | 0:57:35 | 0:57:39 | |
Standing here, on the blood-soaked battlefield of Gettysburg, | 0:57:39 | 0:57:44 | |
one can't help but be put in mind | 0:57:44 | 0:57:46 | |
of the extraordinary earthquake-like fissure that opened up | 0:57:46 | 0:57:49 | |
between the Yankee North | 0:57:49 | 0:57:52 | |
and that romantic, mysterious, | 0:57:52 | 0:57:56 | |
eccentric, bewitching part of America, | 0:57:56 | 0:57:59 | |
that they still call the Deep South. | 0:57:59 | 0:58:02 | |
On the next leg of my journey I shall be visiting coalmines and distilleries, | 0:58:05 | 0:58:10 | |
body farms and cotton farms, | 0:58:10 | 0:58:12 | |
snowbirds and parole boards, | 0:58:12 | 0:58:14 | |
guitar-pickers and turkey-stuffers. | 0:58:14 | 0:58:16 | |
Discovering how much or how little, | 0:58:16 | 0:58:18 | |
since that bloody civil war, the Deep South has changed. | 0:58:18 | 0:58:22 | |
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