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I'm on a journey around Turkey.

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A place of beauty and extremes...

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This is terrifying and awesome all at the same time.

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Look at the size of that.

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..where conflict and division

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threatens to tear the country apart...

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It goes on and on. Look at this over here.

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War is not something distant at this point.

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..with an increasingly authoritarian regime...

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So just to my left, there's a protest developing.

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..crushing opposition at home and abroad...

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Unbelievable. "BBC English terror agency."

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..Turkey is now at the very heart of world events.

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Bye!

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-As-salamu 'alaykum.

-Wa'alaykumu s-salam.

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On this second leg of my journey around Turkey,

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I'll travel from the country's southern borders,

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north to the Black Sea coast

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and on to the capital city,

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before I reach my final destination, Istanbul.

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In the northern highlands,

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I visit a remote community keeping an ancient language alive.

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BIRD-LIKE WHISTLING

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In the volatile south, I meet the Kurds

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singing a lament to oppression and conflict.

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You can see this is a police station

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guarded and protected from bomb attacks by these blast barriers.

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And I get a speaking part in a Turkish mega-drama taking the world

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by storm.

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What do you think?

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I began the second part of my journey in the south,

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where the rugged peaks of

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the Taurus Mountains provide breathtaking views.

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-Do you want to ring them?

-Yeah.

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Shall we just stop on the left somewhere here?

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My guide was Buket Sahin,

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whose family once lived as nomads in these mountains.

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If we just go quickly.

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SHE SPEAKS TURKISH

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It's a hell of a landscape here, eh?

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We've come to find the Yoruk people,

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who many believe are the original

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inhabitants of the country now called Turkey.

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The Yoruk still spend much of the year living a nomadic life,

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travelling long distances, often on foot, moving with their animals.

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Merhaba!

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When we finally found Mahmood, he'd just set up camp for the night.

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While the sound of goats signalled

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the arrival of his wife, Songul, with the herd.

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-Merhaba.

-Simon.

-Merhaba!

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It's a lion.

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Wow! That's been in a few scrapes, hasn't it?

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Look at that.

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Where have you brought the goats from?

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Hundreds of years ago, it's said that there were a million of these

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nomadic people living in the central plains of Turkey...

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..in something like 200,000 huge tents.

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Now there's just a handful of families left

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who live a nomadic life.

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A sort of link with the past, I suppose.

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For all of us.

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But life isn't easy for Mahmood and his family.

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They're a minority group in modern Turkey,

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a country with an authoritarian Islamic government and they often

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face hostility.

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What just happened?

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Yoruks are Muslims but they generally don't pray in mosques.

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Turkey's recently become more Islamic and Yoruks are sometimes

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seen as inadequately religious by more pious Turks.

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Locals just came up and basically threatened you

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and told you you had to leave.

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Do you ever feel unsafe on the road?

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You've got two small boys with you.

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Did you say wolves?

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What a way of life, eh?

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Incredible.

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21st-century.

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As you can hear, there's a lot of dogs out there.

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BARKING At least, I hope they're dogs!

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BLEATING

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Night, all.

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BARKING CONTINUES

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These dogs make more noise than cockerels.

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Barking, barking, the entire night.

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On the plus side, no wolves and no snakes.

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After the warning, the family were

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packing their belongings and moving on.

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Do you want me to lift him in?

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It feels like you really love them.

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We were heading off on our separate journeys.

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Bye-bye.

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Mahmood and the children will drive on ahead to set up camp

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while Songul follows ancient trails through the mountains

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that only a Yoruk would still recognise.

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The last of the Yoruk nomads...

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..heading off into the sunrise.

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Just over 50 years ago, almost all Turks were rural.

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Now they're almost all urban.

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Nomads don't quite fit the mould.

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I headed east along Turkey's volatile southern border with Syria,

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towards the historic Turkish city of Mardin.

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So-called Islamic State was still holding positions a few miles away.

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Turkish forces have been involved in the war in Syria.

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It's a conflict with huge consequences for this country as well.

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So, look, the border, the fence is right here.

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Just by the side of the road.

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The name of this city, Mardin, means fortresses.

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And this place is no stranger to war and conquest.

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This really is such an ancient city.

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It's such an ancient region, actually.

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Some of the earliest human settlements found anywhere on this

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planet have been found here in this area.

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I think because the area, the region, is so old,

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it's sometimes easy to forget that

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Turkey itself is a relative youngster.

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Turkey, the country, is less than 100 years old.

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Of course, Turkey was formed out of the crumbling Ottoman Empire.

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Lots of different ethnic groups,

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all coming together under one flag and supposedly all becoming Turks.

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Turks are a proud, patriotic people

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but not all of the ethnic groups here

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have wanted to unite under the one flag.

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On the right, just here, look,

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you can see this is a police station and it's guarded and protected from

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bomb attacks by these blast barriers here.

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And that's designed to deflect the shock wave

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from a car bomb...or a truck bomb, for that matter.

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So-called Islamic State has infiltrated

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and launched attacks here but war

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in Syria has also helped reignite a bitter conflict inside Turkey.

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Just stopped by the side of the road to take a look at the foggy view.

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These are Kurdish communities out here.

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Kurds are an ethnic group found

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living in different countries throughout the Middle East

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but they lack their own nation or state and, for decades,

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many Kurds here in the south-east of Turkey

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have been campaigning or fighting for independence or autonomy.

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There are millions of Kurds in Turkey.

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They are at least one in five of the population.

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I headed into the heart of the Kurdish region

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to the ancient city of Diyarbakir.

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Kurds have a proud history, culture, and their own language.

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But for decades, they faced

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repression at the hands of the Turkish state,

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particularly the Turkish military.

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SINGING

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I met up with Kurdish activist Mehmet Kaya at a cultural centre...

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..where a group of local singers meet

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to perform traditional Kurdish songs.

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Is it true that it hasn't actually been possible,

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always possible, for the gentlemen to sing like this?

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So just to be clear, singing in Kurdish was illegal?

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Speaking in Kurdish in public was illegal?

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Mehmet is a moderate but, for decades,

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some Turkish Kurds have resorted to violence in their fight for autonomy

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for an independent Kurdish state.

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The main Kurdish armed group is called the PKK.

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It's classified as a terrorist group by the Turkish government and other

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countries like Britain and the US.

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So we're right next to the old walls of Diyarbakir now.

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During the long conflict between Kurds and Turks,

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tens of thousands have died on both sides.

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There had been a ceasefire but the war in Syria helped end that.

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The conflict here has restarted and escalated.

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Oh, my God.

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In Sur, the historic centre of Diyarbakir,

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street battles erupted.

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We're one of the only TV crews to see the consequences.

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This is where,

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just months ago,

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a smallish group of Kurdish rebels, or terrorists, decided they wanted

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to declare autonomy for this area of the city.

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They dug trenches and erected...

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set up booby-traps.

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The Turkish state didn't react very

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well to that, as you can probably imagine,

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but they reacted with what I think it's fair to say

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is overwhelming force.

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Turkish security forces rolled in here with tanks and artillery.

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The PKK fought back with assault rifles and explosives.

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Look, and it goes on and on, look at this over here.

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It's unbelievable.

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There were buildings

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all around us here.

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This place has been levelled.

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This is ground zero.

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The authorities say the damage from fighting was so extensive,

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they need to flatten the area to rebuild.

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There is a real question about

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proportionality here.

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Elements within the Turkish army thought it was perfectly acceptable

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to bring tanks in to this area,

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and use tank weapons and artillery against citizens of Turkey.

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Of their own country.

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It's unbelievable.

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Amnesty International is reporting that up to 40,000 residents

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were forced to leave this area.

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Hundreds of homes have since been demolished.

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I start to get, here,

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a real sense of the tragedy

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that lies at the heart of this tortured relationship.

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There have been tears and death

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on both sides for so long here.

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The government blames all this destruction on Kurdish terrorists.

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Much of Sur has now been expropriated by the state.

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Officials say they'll rebuild this historic area.

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Metin Evsin is in charge of the project.

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Is this all damage from the fighting as well?

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Have you got to restore and rebuild there?

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The residents that used to live here are now being told they can

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buy subsidised high-rise flats on the outskirts.

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Some here say Kurds are being deliberately displaced from Sur to

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change the political landscape.

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It looks extraordinary. Suddenly, secret police appear.

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Jonathan, stop filming - right now.

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There's a heavy security presence around here

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and it's very difficult for us to film.

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We've just had an encounter with Turkish police officers

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who were pretty bloody rude, to be honest.

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The authorities here prefer it when the media are under their thumb.

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There's been a huge crackdown on

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free speech and the opposition across Turkey recently.

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Hundreds of journalists have been arrested or fired.

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Foreign writers have been detained.

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The situation here in Diyarbakir is only compounded

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by the Kurdish-Turkish conflict.

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Tensions are high. So just to my left,

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there's a protest developing

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with lots of young, youngish men who've left the mosque

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after Friday prayers.

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You can see the armoured vehicles on my left.

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There's water cannon. There's a lot of armed cops around.

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We can't film clearly, overtly.

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I can't look at the camera because they'll guess

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and then we could be arrested ourselves.

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We can't afford that to happen because we could lose all of

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the footage that we have shot so far in Turkey.

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There's not really a process of discussion.

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There is confiscation.

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I think we're going to go around to the right here.

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OK.

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What a place.

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Under the current government,

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both sides in this struggle had taken a step forward towards peace.

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But now, they've gone two steps backward.

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Popular elected Kurdish officials have been arrested.

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Kurdish militants have launched deadly attacks.

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The conflict shows little sign of resolution.

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I headed north towards Turkey's

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eastern border with neighbouring Armenia.

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I was on my way to a dramatic and beautiful,

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yet rarely visited, part of the country.

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Who the hell gets on the train at ten to eight on a Saturday morning?

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No wonder there's nobody here!

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With rolling plains and huge mountains,

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Eastern Anatolia is little known to foreigners.

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But outside the tropics,

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this is one of the richest countries

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in the world for plants and wildlife.

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I don't know about you,

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but I don't really associate Turkey with amazing plants and wildlife.

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But they are here.

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Turkey, it turns out, has incredible biodiversity.

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In fact, Turkey has almost as many endemic plant species as all of

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Europe put together.

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I think this is my stop.

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My destination was the Sarikamis forest.

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Can, Can!

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Good to meet you.

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Lovely to meet you.

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Can is one of Turkey's leading conservationists.

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So we're now in the Sarikamis forest.

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We always keep an eye open for any wildlife that might pass by.

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Even brown bears,

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very rarely wolves during the day,

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and lynx are possible so just keep your eye open.

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-Brown bears, wolves and lynx?!

-Yes. They're all here.

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-Really?

-Oh, yeah.

-They're here in the forest?

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-That is very exciting.

-Yeah.

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Can has been carrying out the first detailed survey of Turkey's

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brown bear population.

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ALARM SOUNDS

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Oh, there's the bear alarm!

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So Can has just had an alert from one of his bear traps

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suggesting that maybe there's a bear that's been...

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-caught.

-We have caught a wolf once

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in one of these bear traps, so even a wolf is a possibility.

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OK. And it's important to get there quickly for the animal's welfare,

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presumably also so it doesn't escape and nothing else finds it...

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-Exactly.

-..trapped there.

-Exactly.

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Right, there's a van up ahead.

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BLEEP.

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So what do you think has happened?

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I don't know.

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False alarm.

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He activated the trap, got caught, and pulled it out.

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And he's denying it, of course, we can see.

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So we are now setting it up.

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We set it up so that the bear is forced to enter the trap,

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either this way or the opposite.

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Cos, you know, there's a dead sheep in there,

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so the bear will come and eat it.

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-There's another entrance here. Is there a trap here?

-Right there.

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-Where?

-Well, that's the point.

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You're not supposed to figure it out.

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Walk in there on all fours like a bear would.

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You want me to walk in there on all fours like a bear?

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Yeah, so you see how it works.

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-OK.

-So go down on all fours.

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So just go in there. Go towards the sheep.

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Right, yeah, the sheep does look particularly inviting at the moment.

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-You're not going to get to the sheep.

-Are you sure?

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-Whoa! So then I... Oh, my goodness!

-Now pull,

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-like a bear would.

-Look at that.

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So it would just pull away.

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Of course, he will try to pull out,

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but what happens is, after a couple of minutes,

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they just stop and kind of wait until we show up.

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Can and his team then sedate the bear and fit a radio collar,

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so that its movements can be tracked

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and they've made an extraordinary discovery.

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The data we collect has shown that some of the bears we

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collared migrate to the more

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productive temperate rainforest facing

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the Black Sea, where they have access to a lot of acorns

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and forest fruits and then they migrate back.

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So this, I would say, is the most important discovery of the project.

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It's a global first.

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So these are the only bears of their kind in the world that migrate.

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We checked the entire literature.

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The world's only known migratory brown bears...

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-Amazing.

-..period.

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So the trap has been set

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and there are traps throughout the forest here.

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Hopefully, later, there will be some bear activity.

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So far, Can has trapped and tracked more than 30 bears.

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And his research has resulted in a rare triumph for conservation and

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for wildlife in Turkey.

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-It's pretty amazing here.

-It is very nice.

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Sarikamis forest has some of the highest numbers and densities of

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brown bears in Turkey.

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These animals cover massive areas.

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You cannot have a sustainable, viable wolf or bear population

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in a small city forest. So we have to be connected.

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We have convinced the government to create Turkey's first

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wildlife corridor.

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Can's wildlife corridor links and connects pockets of forest -

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the bear's fragmented habitat.

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His aim is to create an unbroken 100-mile band of forest,

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stretching north all the way to the Black Sea,

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giving bears the chance to move freely and, crucially,

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spread their gene pool, which lowers their chances of extinction.

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This is an enormous environmental and conservation success, I think,

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-for Turkey, isn't it?

-Yes. It's one of the few positive conservation

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stories to come out of Turkey in the past decade.

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Despite the new forest corridor,

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the bears still face serious threats.

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Can's tracking shows that while

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some bears are using the wildlife corridor,

0:27:020:27:04

others have stopped migrating...

0:27:040:27:06

Straight ahead, one just went over the top.

0:27:080:27:10

..gathering instead at their favourite diner.

0:27:100:27:13

It's the Sarikamis landfill.

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Landfill? A dump.

0:27:160:27:18

The town dump is the best place to see bears.

0:27:180:27:22

Look at that!

0:27:220:27:23

My God!

0:27:240:27:25

It's a huge, beautiful brown bear.

0:27:260:27:29

Look at the size of that!

0:27:300:27:32

Some of these males at this garbage dump because, you know,

0:27:320:27:35

they're feeding all the time,

0:27:350:27:37

they do reach grizzly sizes - up to 364 kilos.

0:27:370:27:41

Wow! I can see the black shapes moving around.

0:27:410:27:46

-There's...what?

-The maximum count was 42.

0:27:460:27:51

I personally counted 33 in one night.

0:27:510:27:54

-33, here?

-Personally.

-At one time?

0:27:540:27:57

-Yeah, one time.

-That's extraordinary.

0:27:570:27:59

Yeah. So they don't migrate

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because there is food here in the rubbish dump.

0:28:010:28:03

Yeah, I mean, migrating is quite...work, you know.

0:28:030:28:05

A 250-kilometre round trip to eat acorns and fruit.

0:28:050:28:10

I mean, why would you do that?

0:28:100:28:12

So these bears have learned this behaviour.

0:28:120:28:14

But there's a lot of plastic here so they swallow plastic bags along

0:28:140:28:17

the way, chemicals, so it's very unhealthy.

0:28:170:28:21

The bears need to migrate through

0:28:240:28:26

the forest corridor and eat a healthy diet

0:28:260:28:28

and spread their genes around.

0:28:280:28:30

At the town dump, it's not only a dangerous diet they're getting,

0:28:300:28:34

but unwanted attention.

0:28:340:28:35

The locals come in. See, just local guys.

0:28:360:28:39

-Sightseeing.

-They want to see bears.

0:28:390:28:40

It's not safe, because you get people who get out the car and I've

0:28:400:28:45

even seen people taking selfies with the bears right behind them.

0:28:450:28:49

People get out of their cars next to the bears?

0:28:490:28:52

Yeah, and we're worried it's going to lead to an attack one day and

0:28:520:28:56

the bears will be blamed for it and they will be all culled - or killed.

0:28:560:29:00

About four, five years ago, we said a gate needs to be installed.

0:29:030:29:07

The gate was installed the next day.

0:29:070:29:08

The problem is, within three days,

0:29:080:29:11

that gate that only garbage trucks could open,

0:29:110:29:14

it was dismantled and thrown away.

0:29:140:29:17

What I was told by the garbage-truck drivers,

0:29:170:29:20

because it was too much of a hassle to get out, open the gate,

0:29:200:29:23

-to close it again.

-Ah, right.

0:29:230:29:24

Yeah, so we just talked to the new governor of Sarikamis,

0:29:240:29:28

and he totally agreed with us.

0:29:280:29:30

So we're hoping there will be a gate installed, like, that's automatic,

0:29:300:29:34

just for garbage trucks.

0:29:340:29:36

-OK.

-But it is like, you know, groundhog day.

0:29:360:29:39

Every year, we tell the same thing to different people again and again

0:29:390:29:43

for, like, a decade now.

0:29:430:29:45

It's saddening to see these majestic bears

0:29:480:29:50

scrabbling around in plastic bags.

0:29:500:29:52

They are a Turkish national treasure.

0:29:520:29:55

The failure of the local authority to protect them is part of a much

0:29:550:29:59

bigger problem in Turkey.

0:29:590:30:01

Nationally, conservation hasn't just been a low priority,

0:30:010:30:05

it's been forgotten.

0:30:050:30:06

It's really sad. Really disappointing.

0:30:170:30:19

I think it's an area of life in Turkey

0:30:190:30:22

where things really need to improve

0:30:220:30:26

dramatically, drastically.

0:30:260:30:28

Turkey is ranked 177th out of 180

0:30:280:30:32

countries for conservation.

0:30:320:30:36

Two of the only countries that come

0:30:360:30:39

beneath it are Somalia and Afghanistan.

0:30:390:30:41

I mean, Turkey is not doing well

0:30:410:30:43

when it comes to protecting something

0:30:430:30:45

that is so fundamentally wonderful about this incredible country.

0:30:450:30:49

I went north towards the valleys and highlands of Turkey's Black Sea

0:31:160:31:21

region and to another area of extraordinary beauty.

0:31:210:31:24

I love those moments when just nature can be so stunning and brings

0:31:290:31:34

a lump to your throat.

0:31:340:31:36

Its deep valleys and rugged terrain has meant that this region's always

0:31:470:31:51

been isolated and cut off from the rest of Turkey.

0:31:510:31:54

But now, that might be about to change.

0:31:560:31:58

So we think this is a relatively modest linking road,

0:32:050:32:09

connecting up to what will be called the Green Road.

0:32:090:32:13

It's going to be built snaking

0:32:130:32:15

through the upper hills and highlands here,

0:32:150:32:18

more than 1,000 miles long.

0:32:180:32:20

It's the kind of grand national infrastructure project that's

0:32:210:32:25

marked the leadership of Turkey's president, Recep Tayyip Erdogan.

0:32:250:32:31

It's very tricky. Part of the reason that President Erdogan is now quite

0:32:310:32:35

possibly the most successful democratically elected politician in

0:32:350:32:40

the world, he has won that many elections,

0:32:400:32:43

is because he is building things.

0:32:430:32:44

He is transforming the country.

0:32:440:32:46

He's building roads,

0:32:460:32:48

loads of them, and lots of people love that

0:32:480:32:51

but it doesn't endear him to everyone.

0:32:510:32:53

The government says the Green Road will link up isolated communities

0:32:550:32:59

and encourage tourism and economic development, but some locals here are unconvinced.

0:32:590:33:05

People here have a bit of a reputation - strong-minded,

0:33:050:33:09

strong-willed, a bit eccentric.

0:33:090:33:11

In an isolated and beautiful valley,

0:33:130:33:17

Metin Akunju runs a bed-and-breakfast

0:33:170:33:20

with a slight access issue.

0:33:200:33:21

Lovely to meet you.

0:33:240:33:25

SIMON LAUGHS

0:33:280:33:29

Flipping heck.

0:33:320:33:33

Metin, what on earth is this?

0:33:330:33:35

What is the drop beneath your cable car?

0:33:430:33:47

It turned out the crate had

0:34:000:34:01

been built by a bloke in the local village.

0:34:010:34:03

Right. OK.

0:34:030:34:05

Oh, bloody hell.

0:34:110:34:13

But Metin assured me he had designed it to take the weight of a cow.

0:34:140:34:18

It all looked pretty sturdy.

0:34:190:34:21

OK.

0:34:210:34:22

Aargh!

0:34:340:34:36

Oh, my God!

0:34:390:34:40

It wobbles a bit. In a rather scary way!

0:34:420:34:46

This is terrifying and awesome, all at the same time!

0:34:550:34:59

Very good, Metin.

0:35:150:35:16

Very good.

0:35:160:35:17

What inspired you to create this system?

0:35:220:35:24

Oh, my goodness.

0:35:360:35:37

Oh, wow!

0:35:400:35:41

Look at this.

0:35:430:35:44

Ho, ho, ho!

0:35:460:35:47

It's fantastic, Metin.

0:35:490:35:51

Beautiful.

0:35:510:35:52

COCKEREL CROWS

0:36:140:36:17

Your eggs from your chickens.

0:36:320:36:34

Your honey from your bees.

0:36:360:36:37

From "the outside"?

0:36:420:36:43

What do you mean "commercial road"?

0:37:190:37:22

You think the Green Road is actually to encourage and enable mining?

0:37:520:37:57

You keep living your incredible life.

0:38:120:38:14

An inspiration to us all, Metin.

0:38:140:38:16

-Bye-bye, Metin.

-Bye-bye.

0:38:200:38:21

-Are you going to send me off?

-Hope to see you again, eh?

0:38:210:38:24

I hope so, too.

0:38:240:38:25

It is a bit tricky to get to,

0:38:270:38:29

but Metin's extraordinary B&B gets five stars from me.

0:38:290:38:32

Driving through these valleys,

0:38:330:38:35

you do realise just how isolated the communities were

0:38:350:38:39

before the arrival of roads.

0:38:390:38:41

The villages are nestling in these incredibly steep valleys

0:38:410:38:46

and, historically, it was very difficult, of course,

0:38:460:38:48

before mobile phones, for people to communicate when they were on one

0:38:480:38:53

side of the valley from their loved ones.

0:38:530:38:56

But in the village up ahead, they came up with a solution.

0:38:560:39:00

Kuskoy.

0:39:000:39:01

We are here.

0:39:020:39:03

BIRD-LIKE WHISTLING

0:39:080:39:09

Mustafa still uses a language that

0:39:220:39:24

is thought to have originated in these valleys hundreds of years ago.

0:39:240:39:28

So just to be clear, many of you communicate here by whistling?

0:39:360:39:40

HE WHISTLES

0:39:400:39:42

Flipping heck!

0:39:430:39:45

It's a rather beautiful sound coming out of your mouth there.

0:39:480:39:52

All the way up there?

0:40:050:40:08

Wow!

0:40:080:40:10

Does Eren speak whistling?

0:40:160:40:17

Merhaba, Eren. Merhaba.

0:40:170:40:19

HE WHISTLES

0:40:220:40:24

HE WHISTLES

0:40:270:40:30

SHE WHISTLES

0:40:320:40:35

HE WHISTLES

0:40:350:40:38

WHISTLING

0:40:420:40:45

It felt like time to go.

0:40:500:40:52

Just to the north, I reach Turkey's Black Sea coast.

0:40:560:40:59

The most powerful figure in recent Turkish history, President Erdogan,

0:41:010:41:05

grew up around here.

0:41:050:41:07

Huge posters glorifying him are everywhere.

0:41:070:41:10

I can't stress enough what a significant figure he is

0:41:100:41:14

in modern Turkey.

0:41:140:41:16

He's a political colossus here.

0:41:160:41:18

But Erdogan isn't the first controversial charismatic politician

0:41:190:41:23

to dominate Turkey.

0:41:230:41:25

I headed to the nation's capital.

0:41:250:41:27

The city of Ankara became Turkey's seat of government

0:41:290:41:32

when the nation was founded in the 1920s by Mustafa Kemal Ataturk.

0:41:320:41:37

His mausoleum still draws millions of Turks today.

0:41:370:41:40

I mean, this is incredible.

0:41:410:41:43

Look at the scale of this.

0:41:450:41:47

All for one man.

0:41:510:41:53

MILITARY DRILL COMMAND

0:41:530:41:54

Ataturk, the father of the nation, closed Islamic schools,

0:41:580:42:02

gave votes to women

0:42:020:42:03

and aggressively insisted Turkey should be a secular state.

0:42:030:42:07

Most Turks, but especially secular Turks,

0:42:070:42:10

still revere Ataturk.

0:42:100:42:12

The military here have long been seen

0:42:230:42:25

as the ultimate defenders of Ataturk's ideals.

0:42:250:42:28

They've launched a series of coups,

0:42:280:42:30

particularly when they thought a government has become too Islamic.

0:42:300:42:33

Now President Erdogan's ruling party

0:42:350:42:37

is openly Islamic.

0:42:370:42:39

He thought he had the military under control,

0:42:400:42:42

but then, in 2016, a faction within the military launched another coup.

0:42:420:42:46

So this is the Turkish parliament building.

0:42:500:42:52

On the night of the failed coup,

0:42:530:42:56

several dozen MPs, Members of Parliament, lawmakers,

0:42:560:42:59

took shelter inside the building,

0:42:590:43:01

partly as sanctuary and partially to defend it,

0:43:010:43:03

because they could hear gunfire in the streets around.

0:43:030:43:07

And while they were inside,

0:43:070:43:08

a Turkish Air Force fighter bomber came over

0:43:080:43:11

and tried to bomb the building.

0:43:110:43:13

Can you imagine how bizarre that would be

0:43:150:43:18

if you transposed that attack,

0:43:180:43:20

that event, to London or Washington?

0:43:200:43:22

What an assault on democracy that would be.

0:43:220:43:25

The coup attempt was defeated.

0:43:270:43:29

Erdogan emerged as a hero,

0:43:290:43:31

a defender of democracy.

0:43:310:43:34

People rallied to him.

0:43:340:43:35

He blamed the coup on the secretive Gulen movement,

0:43:350:43:38

led by a US-based Turkish preacher.

0:43:380:43:40

A state of emergency was declared

0:43:420:43:43

and a massive round-up of suspects began.

0:43:430:43:46

It's since become a purge on an incredible scale.

0:43:480:43:51

Tens of thousands, including army officers

0:43:510:43:53

but also journalists, teachers and doctors

0:43:530:43:55

have been arrested, detained or sacked.

0:43:550:43:58

I'm trying to meet up with somebody

0:43:590:44:00

who's been caught up in the purge.

0:44:000:44:04

But we can't meet too openly,

0:44:040:44:06

so we've come to a location outside the city.

0:44:060:44:09

Hopefully, she's going to turn up.

0:44:090:44:12

I'm meeting one of the few brave enough to speak out.

0:44:150:44:19

She was suspended as a teacher without warning.

0:44:190:44:21

-Nice to meet you.

-Lovely to meet you, too.

0:44:210:44:24

TRANSLATION:

0:44:240:44:26

She denies any link to the plotters.

0:44:340:44:36

So why do you think, then,

0:44:520:44:54

that you have been targeted and suspended from your job?

0:44:540:44:58

Some say the purge is a legitimate reaction

0:45:320:45:34

to a secret, dangerous organisation.

0:45:340:45:36

Others fear it's being used to crush all opposition to Erdogan.

0:45:360:45:40

He's elected and has huge support,

0:45:410:45:43

but some commentators now believe he wants to keep power for ever,

0:45:430:45:47

even taking the country down a path towards dictatorship,

0:45:470:45:50

while also shifting Turkey to become a fully Islamic nation,

0:45:500:45:54

governed by religious principles and laws.

0:45:540:45:56

They point to the enhanced role of the Diyanet,

0:45:570:45:59

the government department responsible for religious affairs,

0:45:590:46:03

as evidence of this new direction.

0:46:030:46:05

I think I'm about to get as close as I will

0:46:050:46:08

to the heart of power and influence in this country.

0:46:080:46:11

I'm off to meet the man who's been described

0:46:130:46:15

as the calm power in Turkey.

0:46:150:46:17

The Diyanet is the religious authority

0:46:190:46:21

that oversees Turkey's 85,000 mosques.

0:46:210:46:25

It writes the crucial Friday sermons.

0:46:250:46:28

The Diyanet is central to the lives

0:46:280:46:29

of millions of people in this country,

0:46:290:46:32

even if they don't know it.

0:46:320:46:34

Under President Erdogan's rule,

0:46:340:46:35

the budget of the Diyanet has quadrupled during the past decade.

0:46:350:46:39

It's powerful and influential.

0:46:390:46:41

I met the boss, Professor Mehmet Gormez.

0:46:420:46:45

-Nice to meet you.

-Nice to meet you, too.

0:46:450:46:46

-Nice to see you.

-Thank you.

-Thank you.

-That's lovely.

0:46:460:46:49

-Thank you so much.

-Thank you. Tesekkur.

-OK.

0:46:490:46:52

-Tesekkur ederim.

-Tesekkur ederim, yes.

0:46:520:46:53

-It's OK?

-Yes.

-Yes.

-Thank you. It's OK.

0:46:530:46:56

I've been practising. All right.

0:46:560:46:58

So, Professor, I would really like to try and understand

0:46:580:47:03

the direction that Turkey is taking.

0:47:030:47:08

TRANSLATION:

0:47:080:47:09

'President Erdogan has said women can't be treated equally to men,

0:48:000:48:04

'and that, as good Turks, they should have at least three children.

0:48:040:48:07

'But the professor was keen to stress

0:48:070:48:09

'Turkey's more liberal Islamic values.'

0:48:090:48:11

'In the Islamic world,

0:48:380:48:39

'Turkey's always been a more tolerant moderate voice

0:48:390:48:42

'than ultra-conservative countries like Saudi Arabia.'

0:48:420:48:45

President Erdogan has said that Turkey is the hope

0:48:460:48:50

of the Islamic world.

0:48:500:48:52

In the Middle East, we've seen areas that are in complete turmoil.

0:48:520:48:56

Does the Diyanet have a role to play in guiding and inspiring Muslims

0:48:560:49:01

around the world?

0:49:010:49:03

I thought that was really interesting.

0:49:290:49:31

I'm not looking to airbrush out the problems of this country,

0:49:330:49:38

from the treatment of minorities and women

0:49:380:49:41

to human rights abuses,

0:49:410:49:43

the quashing of free speech.

0:49:430:49:45

There are terrible things happening here,

0:49:450:49:48

and yet, in many of the neighbouring countries,

0:49:480:49:50

in this part of the world,

0:49:500:49:51

things are much, much worse.

0:49:510:49:54

I really hope Turkey as a nation

0:49:540:49:57

can deliver on the high morals

0:49:570:50:00

that he said this country embodies.

0:50:000:50:02

'Below the offices of the Diyanet...'

0:50:040:50:06

Looks like I'm going down to the car park.

0:50:060:50:08

'..work is already well under way

0:50:080:50:09

'to spread Turkey's religious messages and values -

0:50:090:50:13

'around the globe.'

0:50:130:50:14

Look at this!

0:50:140:50:16

So this is Diyanet TV.

0:50:160:50:19

Here, brand-spanking-new,

0:50:200:50:22

state-of-the-art television and radio stations

0:50:220:50:24

broadcast 24 hours a day.

0:50:240:50:26

Oh, my goodness. Look, it's the gallery.

0:50:290:50:31

'Critics complain the Diyanet is the religious mouthpiece

0:50:340:50:37

'for a president intent on creating

0:50:370:50:39

'a more conservative, authoritarian nation.'

0:50:390:50:42

They get seven million viewers here in Turkey alone.

0:50:420:50:47

They have YouTube videos up

0:50:470:50:49

that are watched by more than 25 million people,

0:50:490:50:53

so there's a lot of influence coming from this room

0:50:530:50:56

through the channels.

0:50:560:50:57

President Erdogan's supporters say

0:50:570:50:59

this is for the majority of Turks who are religious,

0:50:590:51:02

and they claim it allows the moderate values of Turkey

0:51:020:51:05

to be broadcast around the Islamic world.

0:51:050:51:07

It can be hard to get a handle on Turkey.

0:51:100:51:12

Is it European or Middle Eastern?

0:51:120:51:15

Religious or liberal?

0:51:150:51:16

Perhaps it's a bit of both.

0:51:160:51:18

For decades, people have been wondering and worrying about Turkey.

0:51:180:51:24

And they've encouraged and pressed the Turks

0:51:240:51:27

to make a choice between the East and the West,

0:51:270:51:30

between being part of Europe or part of the Middle East.

0:51:300:51:34

And most people said that Turkey needed to choose,

0:51:340:51:37

it needed to make a decision,

0:51:370:51:38

but the sense I have, the strong sense I have,

0:51:380:51:41

is that Turkey's going to do something different.

0:51:410:51:43

Turkey is not going to choose East or West.

0:51:440:51:47

Turkey is going to choose its own destiny,

0:51:470:51:49

it's going to take its own path.

0:51:490:51:51

And that really matters,

0:51:510:51:52

because Turkey is powerful and it is influential.

0:51:520:51:55

Both in terms of religion and faith,

0:51:550:51:58

but politically, militarily, and through culture as well,

0:51:580:52:01

as I hope I'm about to see.

0:52:010:52:03

Turkey hasn't been so key to global affairs

0:52:150:52:18

since the time this land was ruled by the Ottomans -

0:52:180:52:21

part of the greatest Islamic empire the world has ever seen.

0:52:210:52:25

Under President Erdogan,

0:52:260:52:28

the popularity of the all-powerful Ottoman sultans,

0:52:280:52:32

grand rulers, has soared.

0:52:320:52:34

Perhaps that's no coincidence.

0:52:340:52:36

The Turks are calling it Ottomania.

0:52:360:52:39

Look at this!

0:52:390:52:40

Merhaba.

0:52:430:52:44

All very normal.

0:52:450:52:47

I don't know why they're looking at us

0:52:470:52:49

like we're out of place.

0:52:490:52:50

Exactly! Yeah, they are.

0:52:500:52:51

This is Magnificent Century: Kosem,

0:53:020:53:05

a huge period costume drama

0:53:050:53:08

set within the sultans' royal palace.

0:53:080:53:11

You might have missed it, but it's broadcast to the world,

0:53:110:53:14

watched in prime time in scores of countries

0:53:140:53:16

and making lead actors like Farah Zeynep Abdullah -

0:53:160:53:19

who partly grew up in Maidenhead - global superstars.

0:53:190:53:23

You're a big star...

0:53:230:53:25

-Thank you.

-..in a mega-drama.

0:53:250:53:27

Your one goes out to a quarter of the world.

0:53:270:53:31

-Yeah. Wow!

-A quarter of the world!

0:53:310:53:33

It does, yeah.

0:53:330:53:34

Scary. What role do you play?

0:53:340:53:37

I play Faria,

0:53:370:53:38

who is a Hungarian princess

0:53:380:53:42

and a warrior at the same time,

0:53:420:53:44

-so she's a...

-You're a warrior Hungarian princess.

0:53:440:53:47

-Yeah.

-That's pretty cool.

0:53:470:53:48

This drama is even popular in conservative Islamic countries,

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where the strong female characters

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have become heroines, and even role models.

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I'm just admiring your empire.

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The show was the brainchild

0:54:030:54:04

of executive producer Timur Savci.

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Timur's drama has even been blamed

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for rising divorce rates.

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You've created an incredible world.

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Have you heard about this?

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Men have been coming, from some of the Gulf states, to Istanbul,

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to get their moustaches cosmetically enhanced

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so they can look like a sultan.

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Is this true?

0:55:270:55:28

-Yes.

-Unbelievable!

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You're not going to believe this.

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I'm getting roped in to the production.

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What do you think?

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-So...

-Hey.

-It's a tricky moment.

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I rather like it.

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It's not a difficult part.

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-Are you seriously saying I have to say a line?

-Yes.

-In Turkish?

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THEY SPEAK IN TURKISH

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HE SPEAKS IN TURKISH

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Sorry to interrupt,

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but they're ready and they're there waiting for us.

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We can practise over there.

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Wow. OK. Thank you very much.

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HE PRACTISES HIS LINE

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You cannot act but you must stay like this.

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Yeah, OK.

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Right hand over to the left.

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THEY PRACTISE LINES

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I've forgotten the words!

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Bloody hell.

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(That was all right.)

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-Perfect.

-Oh! No.

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My coach, my mentor.

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This is a huge Turkish success story.

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A project with a massive audience,

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a global reach that promotes a powerful story

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and strong characters.

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It is a lot of fun to be just a tiny, tiny part of it.

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I headed back to Istanbul,

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where the real-life palaces of the former Ottoman sultans

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and the magnificent mosques they built

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still draw millions of visitors.

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This is close to where my journey around Turkey began,

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and it's where it ends.

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I do feel that my travels in this country

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have shown me many of the huge problems and issues

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that Turkey is facing -

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and nobody should deny they exist -

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but I do also think this journey

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has shown me much of what's best about this great country.

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