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I'm on a journey around Turkey. | 0:00:04 | 0:00:06 | |
A place of beauty and extremes... | 0:00:09 | 0:00:11 | |
This is terrifying and awesome all at the same time. | 0:00:14 | 0:00:17 | |
Look at the size of that. | 0:00:19 | 0:00:21 | |
..where conflict and division | 0:00:23 | 0:00:25 | |
threatens to tear the country apart... | 0:00:25 | 0:00:27 | |
It goes on and on. Look at this over here. | 0:00:28 | 0:00:30 | |
War is not something distant at this point. | 0:00:32 | 0:00:35 | |
..with an increasingly authoritarian regime... | 0:00:36 | 0:00:40 | |
So just to my left, there's a protest developing. | 0:00:40 | 0:00:43 | |
..crushing opposition at home and abroad... | 0:00:43 | 0:00:47 | |
Unbelievable. "BBC English terror agency." | 0:00:47 | 0:00:51 | |
..Turkey is now at the very heart of world events. | 0:00:51 | 0:00:55 | |
Bye! | 0:00:55 | 0:00:56 | |
-As-salamu 'alaykum. -Wa'alaykumu s-salam. | 0:00:56 | 0:00:59 | |
On this second leg of my journey around Turkey, | 0:01:06 | 0:01:09 | |
I'll travel from the country's southern borders, | 0:01:09 | 0:01:12 | |
north to the Black Sea coast | 0:01:12 | 0:01:14 | |
and on to the capital city, | 0:01:14 | 0:01:16 | |
before I reach my final destination, Istanbul. | 0:01:16 | 0:01:20 | |
In the northern highlands, | 0:01:21 | 0:01:23 | |
I visit a remote community keeping an ancient language alive. | 0:01:23 | 0:01:26 | |
BIRD-LIKE WHISTLING | 0:01:26 | 0:01:28 | |
In the volatile south, I meet the Kurds | 0:01:29 | 0:01:32 | |
singing a lament to oppression and conflict. | 0:01:32 | 0:01:34 | |
You can see this is a police station | 0:01:35 | 0:01:37 | |
guarded and protected from bomb attacks by these blast barriers. | 0:01:37 | 0:01:42 | |
And I get a speaking part in a Turkish mega-drama taking the world | 0:01:43 | 0:01:47 | |
by storm. | 0:01:47 | 0:01:49 | |
What do you think? | 0:01:49 | 0:01:50 | |
I began the second part of my journey in the south, | 0:02:16 | 0:02:19 | |
where the rugged peaks of | 0:02:19 | 0:02:20 | |
the Taurus Mountains provide breathtaking views. | 0:02:20 | 0:02:23 | |
-Do you want to ring them? -Yeah. | 0:02:30 | 0:02:32 | |
Shall we just stop on the left somewhere here? | 0:02:32 | 0:02:34 | |
My guide was Buket Sahin, | 0:02:34 | 0:02:35 | |
whose family once lived as nomads in these mountains. | 0:02:35 | 0:02:39 | |
If we just go quickly. | 0:02:39 | 0:02:41 | |
SHE SPEAKS TURKISH | 0:02:41 | 0:02:43 | |
It's a hell of a landscape here, eh? | 0:02:47 | 0:02:48 | |
We've come to find the Yoruk people, | 0:02:52 | 0:02:55 | |
who many believe are the original | 0:02:55 | 0:02:56 | |
inhabitants of the country now called Turkey. | 0:02:56 | 0:02:59 | |
The Yoruk still spend much of the year living a nomadic life, | 0:03:03 | 0:03:07 | |
travelling long distances, often on foot, moving with their animals. | 0:03:07 | 0:03:11 | |
Merhaba! | 0:03:13 | 0:03:14 | |
When we finally found Mahmood, he'd just set up camp for the night. | 0:03:14 | 0:03:18 | |
While the sound of goats signalled | 0:03:19 | 0:03:22 | |
the arrival of his wife, Songul, with the herd. | 0:03:22 | 0:03:25 | |
-Merhaba. -Simon. -Merhaba! | 0:03:25 | 0:03:28 | |
It's a lion. | 0:03:28 | 0:03:30 | |
Wow! That's been in a few scrapes, hasn't it? | 0:03:31 | 0:03:33 | |
Look at that. | 0:03:33 | 0:03:34 | |
Where have you brought the goats from? | 0:03:35 | 0:03:37 | |
Hundreds of years ago, it's said that there were a million of these | 0:04:02 | 0:04:06 | |
nomadic people living in the central plains of Turkey... | 0:04:06 | 0:04:10 | |
..in something like 200,000 huge tents. | 0:04:11 | 0:04:15 | |
Now there's just a handful of families left | 0:04:15 | 0:04:19 | |
who live a nomadic life. | 0:04:19 | 0:04:20 | |
A sort of link with the past, I suppose. | 0:04:20 | 0:04:23 | |
For all of us. | 0:04:23 | 0:04:24 | |
But life isn't easy for Mahmood and his family. | 0:04:27 | 0:04:30 | |
They're a minority group in modern Turkey, | 0:04:30 | 0:04:32 | |
a country with an authoritarian Islamic government and they often | 0:04:32 | 0:04:36 | |
face hostility. | 0:04:36 | 0:04:37 | |
What just happened? | 0:04:39 | 0:04:40 | |
Yoruks are Muslims but they generally don't pray in mosques. | 0:05:09 | 0:05:13 | |
Turkey's recently become more Islamic and Yoruks are sometimes | 0:05:13 | 0:05:16 | |
seen as inadequately religious by more pious Turks. | 0:05:16 | 0:05:19 | |
Locals just came up and basically threatened you | 0:05:45 | 0:05:48 | |
and told you you had to leave. | 0:05:48 | 0:05:50 | |
Do you ever feel unsafe on the road? | 0:05:50 | 0:05:53 | |
You've got two small boys with you. | 0:05:53 | 0:05:55 | |
Did you say wolves? | 0:06:42 | 0:06:44 | |
What a way of life, eh? | 0:06:54 | 0:06:55 | |
Incredible. | 0:06:57 | 0:06:58 | |
21st-century. | 0:06:59 | 0:07:00 | |
As you can hear, there's a lot of dogs out there. | 0:07:04 | 0:07:07 | |
BARKING At least, I hope they're dogs! | 0:07:07 | 0:07:09 | |
BLEATING | 0:07:12 | 0:07:14 | |
Night, all. | 0:07:14 | 0:07:15 | |
BARKING CONTINUES | 0:07:18 | 0:07:21 | |
These dogs make more noise than cockerels. | 0:07:37 | 0:07:40 | |
Barking, barking, the entire night. | 0:07:41 | 0:07:44 | |
On the plus side, no wolves and no snakes. | 0:07:47 | 0:07:49 | |
After the warning, the family were | 0:07:55 | 0:07:57 | |
packing their belongings and moving on. | 0:07:57 | 0:08:00 | |
Do you want me to lift him in? | 0:08:11 | 0:08:12 | |
It feels like you really love them. | 0:08:21 | 0:08:23 | |
We were heading off on our separate journeys. | 0:08:30 | 0:08:32 | |
Bye-bye. | 0:08:38 | 0:08:39 | |
Mahmood and the children will drive on ahead to set up camp | 0:08:45 | 0:08:49 | |
while Songul follows ancient trails through the mountains | 0:08:49 | 0:08:53 | |
that only a Yoruk would still recognise. | 0:08:53 | 0:08:55 | |
The last of the Yoruk nomads... | 0:08:57 | 0:08:59 | |
..heading off into the sunrise. | 0:09:01 | 0:09:03 | |
Just over 50 years ago, almost all Turks were rural. | 0:09:05 | 0:09:09 | |
Now they're almost all urban. | 0:09:09 | 0:09:11 | |
Nomads don't quite fit the mould. | 0:09:11 | 0:09:13 | |
I headed east along Turkey's volatile southern border with Syria, | 0:09:17 | 0:09:21 | |
towards the historic Turkish city of Mardin. | 0:09:21 | 0:09:23 | |
So-called Islamic State was still holding positions a few miles away. | 0:09:27 | 0:09:31 | |
Turkish forces have been involved in the war in Syria. | 0:09:32 | 0:09:35 | |
It's a conflict with huge consequences for this country as well. | 0:09:35 | 0:09:39 | |
So, look, the border, the fence is right here. | 0:09:39 | 0:09:43 | |
Just by the side of the road. | 0:09:43 | 0:09:44 | |
The name of this city, Mardin, means fortresses. | 0:09:49 | 0:09:53 | |
And this place is no stranger to war and conquest. | 0:09:56 | 0:09:59 | |
This really is such an ancient city. | 0:10:05 | 0:10:08 | |
It's such an ancient region, actually. | 0:10:10 | 0:10:12 | |
Some of the earliest human settlements found anywhere on this | 0:10:12 | 0:10:16 | |
planet have been found here in this area. | 0:10:16 | 0:10:18 | |
I think because the area, the region, is so old, | 0:10:18 | 0:10:21 | |
it's sometimes easy to forget that | 0:10:21 | 0:10:23 | |
Turkey itself is a relative youngster. | 0:10:23 | 0:10:25 | |
Turkey, the country, is less than 100 years old. | 0:10:25 | 0:10:29 | |
Of course, Turkey was formed out of the crumbling Ottoman Empire. | 0:10:29 | 0:10:33 | |
Lots of different ethnic groups, | 0:10:33 | 0:10:35 | |
all coming together under one flag and supposedly all becoming Turks. | 0:10:35 | 0:10:40 | |
Turks are a proud, patriotic people | 0:10:45 | 0:10:48 | |
but not all of the ethnic groups here | 0:10:48 | 0:10:50 | |
have wanted to unite under the one flag. | 0:10:50 | 0:10:53 | |
On the right, just here, look, | 0:10:55 | 0:10:56 | |
you can see this is a police station and it's guarded and protected from | 0:10:56 | 0:11:02 | |
bomb attacks by these blast barriers here. | 0:11:02 | 0:11:06 | |
And that's designed to deflect the shock wave | 0:11:06 | 0:11:11 | |
from a car bomb...or a truck bomb, for that matter. | 0:11:11 | 0:11:13 | |
So-called Islamic State has infiltrated | 0:11:15 | 0:11:17 | |
and launched attacks here but war | 0:11:17 | 0:11:20 | |
in Syria has also helped reignite a bitter conflict inside Turkey. | 0:11:20 | 0:11:23 | |
Just stopped by the side of the road to take a look at the foggy view. | 0:11:26 | 0:11:30 | |
These are Kurdish communities out here. | 0:11:30 | 0:11:34 | |
Kurds are an ethnic group found | 0:11:34 | 0:11:36 | |
living in different countries throughout the Middle East | 0:11:36 | 0:11:39 | |
but they lack their own nation or state and, for decades, | 0:11:39 | 0:11:43 | |
many Kurds here in the south-east of Turkey | 0:11:43 | 0:11:47 | |
have been campaigning or fighting for independence or autonomy. | 0:11:47 | 0:11:51 | |
There are millions of Kurds in Turkey. | 0:11:52 | 0:11:54 | |
They are at least one in five of the population. | 0:11:54 | 0:11:56 | |
I headed into the heart of the Kurdish region | 0:11:57 | 0:12:00 | |
to the ancient city of Diyarbakir. | 0:12:00 | 0:12:03 | |
Kurds have a proud history, culture, and their own language. | 0:12:03 | 0:12:07 | |
But for decades, they faced | 0:12:07 | 0:12:09 | |
repression at the hands of the Turkish state, | 0:12:09 | 0:12:11 | |
particularly the Turkish military. | 0:12:11 | 0:12:13 | |
SINGING | 0:12:13 | 0:12:15 | |
I met up with Kurdish activist Mehmet Kaya at a cultural centre... | 0:12:18 | 0:12:22 | |
..where a group of local singers meet | 0:12:23 | 0:12:25 | |
to perform traditional Kurdish songs. | 0:12:25 | 0:12:27 | |
Is it true that it hasn't actually been possible, | 0:13:15 | 0:13:17 | |
always possible, for the gentlemen to sing like this? | 0:13:17 | 0:13:21 | |
So just to be clear, singing in Kurdish was illegal? | 0:13:47 | 0:13:52 | |
Speaking in Kurdish in public was illegal? | 0:13:52 | 0:13:56 | |
Mehmet is a moderate but, for decades, | 0:14:40 | 0:14:43 | |
some Turkish Kurds have resorted to violence in their fight for autonomy | 0:14:43 | 0:14:47 | |
for an independent Kurdish state. | 0:14:47 | 0:14:49 | |
The main Kurdish armed group is called the PKK. | 0:14:50 | 0:14:53 | |
It's classified as a terrorist group by the Turkish government and other | 0:14:53 | 0:14:56 | |
countries like Britain and the US. | 0:14:56 | 0:14:58 | |
So we're right next to the old walls of Diyarbakir now. | 0:15:00 | 0:15:04 | |
During the long conflict between Kurds and Turks, | 0:15:04 | 0:15:07 | |
tens of thousands have died on both sides. | 0:15:07 | 0:15:10 | |
There had been a ceasefire but the war in Syria helped end that. | 0:15:10 | 0:15:14 | |
The conflict here has restarted and escalated. | 0:15:14 | 0:15:17 | |
Oh, my God. | 0:15:17 | 0:15:19 | |
In Sur, the historic centre of Diyarbakir, | 0:15:19 | 0:15:22 | |
street battles erupted. | 0:15:22 | 0:15:24 | |
We're one of the only TV crews to see the consequences. | 0:15:24 | 0:15:27 | |
This is where, | 0:15:27 | 0:15:29 | |
just months ago, | 0:15:29 | 0:15:31 | |
a smallish group of Kurdish rebels, or terrorists, decided they wanted | 0:15:31 | 0:15:36 | |
to declare autonomy for this area of the city. | 0:15:36 | 0:15:39 | |
They dug trenches and erected... | 0:15:39 | 0:15:42 | |
set up booby-traps. | 0:15:42 | 0:15:43 | |
The Turkish state didn't react very | 0:15:44 | 0:15:46 | |
well to that, as you can probably imagine, | 0:15:46 | 0:15:47 | |
but they reacted with what I think it's fair to say | 0:15:47 | 0:15:50 | |
is overwhelming force. | 0:15:50 | 0:15:52 | |
Turkish security forces rolled in here with tanks and artillery. | 0:15:54 | 0:15:58 | |
The PKK fought back with assault rifles and explosives. | 0:15:58 | 0:16:01 | |
Look, and it goes on and on, look at this over here. | 0:16:02 | 0:16:04 | |
It's unbelievable. | 0:16:06 | 0:16:07 | |
There were buildings | 0:16:10 | 0:16:12 | |
all around us here. | 0:16:12 | 0:16:14 | |
This place has been levelled. | 0:16:14 | 0:16:15 | |
This is ground zero. | 0:16:15 | 0:16:17 | |
The authorities say the damage from fighting was so extensive, | 0:16:21 | 0:16:25 | |
they need to flatten the area to rebuild. | 0:16:25 | 0:16:28 | |
There is a real question about | 0:16:29 | 0:16:33 | |
proportionality here. | 0:16:33 | 0:16:34 | |
Elements within the Turkish army thought it was perfectly acceptable | 0:16:35 | 0:16:40 | |
to bring tanks in to this area, | 0:16:40 | 0:16:42 | |
and use tank weapons and artillery against citizens of Turkey. | 0:16:42 | 0:16:47 | |
Of their own country. | 0:16:48 | 0:16:49 | |
It's unbelievable. | 0:16:52 | 0:16:53 | |
Amnesty International is reporting that up to 40,000 residents | 0:16:54 | 0:16:58 | |
were forced to leave this area. | 0:16:58 | 0:16:59 | |
Hundreds of homes have since been demolished. | 0:16:59 | 0:17:03 | |
I start to get, here, | 0:17:03 | 0:17:04 | |
a real sense of the tragedy | 0:17:04 | 0:17:06 | |
that lies at the heart of this tortured relationship. | 0:17:06 | 0:17:10 | |
There have been tears and death | 0:17:10 | 0:17:13 | |
on both sides for so long here. | 0:17:13 | 0:17:15 | |
The government blames all this destruction on Kurdish terrorists. | 0:17:19 | 0:17:23 | |
Much of Sur has now been expropriated by the state. | 0:17:25 | 0:17:29 | |
Officials say they'll rebuild this historic area. | 0:17:29 | 0:17:33 | |
Metin Evsin is in charge of the project. | 0:17:33 | 0:17:35 | |
Is this all damage from the fighting as well? | 0:17:50 | 0:17:53 | |
Have you got to restore and rebuild there? | 0:17:53 | 0:17:55 | |
The residents that used to live here are now being told they can | 0:18:13 | 0:18:17 | |
buy subsidised high-rise flats on the outskirts. | 0:18:17 | 0:18:20 | |
Some here say Kurds are being deliberately displaced from Sur to | 0:18:20 | 0:18:24 | |
change the political landscape. | 0:18:24 | 0:18:26 | |
It looks extraordinary. Suddenly, secret police appear. | 0:18:28 | 0:18:31 | |
Jonathan, stop filming - right now. | 0:18:31 | 0:18:34 | |
There's a heavy security presence around here | 0:18:38 | 0:18:41 | |
and it's very difficult for us to film. | 0:18:41 | 0:18:42 | |
We've just had an encounter with Turkish police officers | 0:18:42 | 0:18:48 | |
who were pretty bloody rude, to be honest. | 0:18:48 | 0:18:50 | |
The authorities here prefer it when the media are under their thumb. | 0:18:50 | 0:18:54 | |
There's been a huge crackdown on | 0:18:56 | 0:18:58 | |
free speech and the opposition across Turkey recently. | 0:18:58 | 0:19:02 | |
Hundreds of journalists have been arrested or fired. | 0:19:02 | 0:19:05 | |
Foreign writers have been detained. | 0:19:05 | 0:19:07 | |
The situation here in Diyarbakir is only compounded | 0:19:07 | 0:19:10 | |
by the Kurdish-Turkish conflict. | 0:19:10 | 0:19:13 | |
Tensions are high. So just to my left, | 0:19:13 | 0:19:15 | |
there's a protest developing | 0:19:15 | 0:19:19 | |
with lots of young, youngish men who've left the mosque | 0:19:19 | 0:19:23 | |
after Friday prayers. | 0:19:23 | 0:19:24 | |
You can see the armoured vehicles on my left. | 0:19:24 | 0:19:27 | |
There's water cannon. There's a lot of armed cops around. | 0:19:27 | 0:19:32 | |
We can't film clearly, overtly. | 0:19:32 | 0:19:34 | |
I can't look at the camera because they'll guess | 0:19:34 | 0:19:36 | |
and then we could be arrested ourselves. | 0:19:36 | 0:19:39 | |
We can't afford that to happen because we could lose all of | 0:19:39 | 0:19:42 | |
the footage that we have shot so far in Turkey. | 0:19:42 | 0:19:45 | |
There's not really a process of discussion. | 0:19:45 | 0:19:47 | |
There is confiscation. | 0:19:47 | 0:19:50 | |
I think we're going to go around to the right here. | 0:19:51 | 0:19:54 | |
OK. | 0:19:54 | 0:19:56 | |
What a place. | 0:19:56 | 0:19:57 | |
Under the current government, | 0:20:01 | 0:20:02 | |
both sides in this struggle had taken a step forward towards peace. | 0:20:02 | 0:20:06 | |
But now, they've gone two steps backward. | 0:20:07 | 0:20:09 | |
Popular elected Kurdish officials have been arrested. | 0:20:11 | 0:20:14 | |
Kurdish militants have launched deadly attacks. | 0:20:14 | 0:20:17 | |
The conflict shows little sign of resolution. | 0:20:17 | 0:20:19 | |
I headed north towards Turkey's | 0:20:27 | 0:20:28 | |
eastern border with neighbouring Armenia. | 0:20:28 | 0:20:31 | |
I was on my way to a dramatic and beautiful, | 0:20:39 | 0:20:42 | |
yet rarely visited, part of the country. | 0:20:42 | 0:20:44 | |
Who the hell gets on the train at ten to eight on a Saturday morning? | 0:20:46 | 0:20:49 | |
No wonder there's nobody here! | 0:20:51 | 0:20:52 | |
With rolling plains and huge mountains, | 0:21:01 | 0:21:04 | |
Eastern Anatolia is little known to foreigners. | 0:21:04 | 0:21:06 | |
But outside the tropics, | 0:21:09 | 0:21:10 | |
this is one of the richest countries | 0:21:10 | 0:21:12 | |
in the world for plants and wildlife. | 0:21:12 | 0:21:14 | |
I don't know about you, | 0:21:16 | 0:21:17 | |
but I don't really associate Turkey with amazing plants and wildlife. | 0:21:17 | 0:21:22 | |
But they are here. | 0:21:22 | 0:21:24 | |
Turkey, it turns out, has incredible biodiversity. | 0:21:24 | 0:21:28 | |
In fact, Turkey has almost as many endemic plant species as all of | 0:21:30 | 0:21:34 | |
Europe put together. | 0:21:34 | 0:21:36 | |
I think this is my stop. | 0:21:36 | 0:21:38 | |
My destination was the Sarikamis forest. | 0:21:38 | 0:21:40 | |
Can, Can! | 0:21:40 | 0:21:44 | |
Good to meet you. | 0:21:44 | 0:21:46 | |
Lovely to meet you. | 0:21:46 | 0:21:47 | |
Can is one of Turkey's leading conservationists. | 0:21:51 | 0:21:55 | |
So we're now in the Sarikamis forest. | 0:21:58 | 0:22:01 | |
We always keep an eye open for any wildlife that might pass by. | 0:22:01 | 0:22:06 | |
Even brown bears, | 0:22:06 | 0:22:08 | |
very rarely wolves during the day, | 0:22:08 | 0:22:10 | |
and lynx are possible so just keep your eye open. | 0:22:10 | 0:22:13 | |
-Brown bears, wolves and lynx?! -Yes. They're all here. | 0:22:13 | 0:22:15 | |
-Really? -Oh, yeah. -They're here in the forest? | 0:22:15 | 0:22:17 | |
-That is very exciting. -Yeah. | 0:22:17 | 0:22:18 | |
Can has been carrying out the first detailed survey of Turkey's | 0:22:21 | 0:22:25 | |
brown bear population. | 0:22:25 | 0:22:26 | |
ALARM SOUNDS | 0:22:29 | 0:22:31 | |
Oh, there's the bear alarm! | 0:22:31 | 0:22:32 | |
So Can has just had an alert from one of his bear traps | 0:22:33 | 0:22:38 | |
suggesting that maybe there's a bear that's been... | 0:22:38 | 0:22:42 | |
-caught. -We have caught a wolf once | 0:22:42 | 0:22:45 | |
in one of these bear traps, so even a wolf is a possibility. | 0:22:45 | 0:22:50 | |
OK. And it's important to get there quickly for the animal's welfare, | 0:22:50 | 0:22:53 | |
presumably also so it doesn't escape and nothing else finds it... | 0:22:53 | 0:22:58 | |
-Exactly. -..trapped there. -Exactly. | 0:22:58 | 0:23:00 | |
Right, there's a van up ahead. | 0:23:04 | 0:23:05 | |
BLEEP. | 0:23:05 | 0:23:07 | |
So what do you think has happened? | 0:23:08 | 0:23:10 | |
I don't know. | 0:23:10 | 0:23:11 | |
False alarm. | 0:23:18 | 0:23:19 | |
He activated the trap, got caught, and pulled it out. | 0:23:27 | 0:23:31 | |
And he's denying it, of course, we can see. | 0:23:32 | 0:23:34 | |
So we are now setting it up. | 0:23:38 | 0:23:39 | |
We set it up so that the bear is forced to enter the trap, | 0:23:39 | 0:23:44 | |
either this way or the opposite. | 0:23:44 | 0:23:46 | |
Cos, you know, there's a dead sheep in there, | 0:23:46 | 0:23:48 | |
so the bear will come and eat it. | 0:23:48 | 0:23:50 | |
-There's another entrance here. Is there a trap here? -Right there. | 0:23:50 | 0:23:53 | |
-Where? -Well, that's the point. | 0:23:53 | 0:23:56 | |
You're not supposed to figure it out. | 0:23:56 | 0:23:58 | |
Walk in there on all fours like a bear would. | 0:23:58 | 0:24:01 | |
You want me to walk in there on all fours like a bear? | 0:24:01 | 0:24:04 | |
Yeah, so you see how it works. | 0:24:04 | 0:24:06 | |
-OK. -So go down on all fours. | 0:24:06 | 0:24:07 | |
So just go in there. Go towards the sheep. | 0:24:09 | 0:24:11 | |
Right, yeah, the sheep does look particularly inviting at the moment. | 0:24:12 | 0:24:15 | |
-You're not going to get to the sheep. -Are you sure? | 0:24:15 | 0:24:18 | |
-Whoa! So then I... Oh, my goodness! -Now pull, | 0:24:18 | 0:24:22 | |
-like a bear would. -Look at that. | 0:24:22 | 0:24:24 | |
So it would just pull away. | 0:24:24 | 0:24:26 | |
Of course, he will try to pull out, | 0:24:26 | 0:24:28 | |
but what happens is, after a couple of minutes, | 0:24:28 | 0:24:30 | |
they just stop and kind of wait until we show up. | 0:24:30 | 0:24:35 | |
Can and his team then sedate the bear and fit a radio collar, | 0:24:36 | 0:24:40 | |
so that its movements can be tracked | 0:24:40 | 0:24:42 | |
and they've made an extraordinary discovery. | 0:24:42 | 0:24:44 | |
The data we collect has shown that some of the bears we | 0:24:44 | 0:24:48 | |
collared migrate to the more | 0:24:48 | 0:24:50 | |
productive temperate rainforest facing | 0:24:50 | 0:24:53 | |
the Black Sea, where they have access to a lot of acorns | 0:24:53 | 0:24:57 | |
and forest fruits and then they migrate back. | 0:24:57 | 0:24:59 | |
So this, I would say, is the most important discovery of the project. | 0:24:59 | 0:25:02 | |
It's a global first. | 0:25:02 | 0:25:03 | |
So these are the only bears of their kind in the world that migrate. | 0:25:03 | 0:25:08 | |
We checked the entire literature. | 0:25:08 | 0:25:09 | |
The world's only known migratory brown bears... | 0:25:09 | 0:25:12 | |
-Amazing. -..period. | 0:25:12 | 0:25:13 | |
So the trap has been set | 0:25:20 | 0:25:22 | |
and there are traps throughout the forest here. | 0:25:22 | 0:25:25 | |
Hopefully, later, there will be some bear activity. | 0:25:25 | 0:25:27 | |
So far, Can has trapped and tracked more than 30 bears. | 0:25:29 | 0:25:33 | |
And his research has resulted in a rare triumph for conservation and | 0:25:33 | 0:25:38 | |
for wildlife in Turkey. | 0:25:38 | 0:25:40 | |
-It's pretty amazing here. -It is very nice. | 0:25:40 | 0:25:43 | |
Sarikamis forest has some of the highest numbers and densities of | 0:25:43 | 0:25:48 | |
brown bears in Turkey. | 0:25:48 | 0:25:49 | |
These animals cover massive areas. | 0:25:49 | 0:25:52 | |
You cannot have a sustainable, viable wolf or bear population | 0:25:52 | 0:25:56 | |
in a small city forest. So we have to be connected. | 0:25:56 | 0:25:59 | |
We have convinced the government to create Turkey's first | 0:26:00 | 0:26:04 | |
wildlife corridor. | 0:26:04 | 0:26:06 | |
Can's wildlife corridor links and connects pockets of forest - | 0:26:06 | 0:26:10 | |
the bear's fragmented habitat. | 0:26:10 | 0:26:13 | |
His aim is to create an unbroken 100-mile band of forest, | 0:26:13 | 0:26:17 | |
stretching north all the way to the Black Sea, | 0:26:17 | 0:26:20 | |
giving bears the chance to move freely and, crucially, | 0:26:20 | 0:26:23 | |
spread their gene pool, which lowers their chances of extinction. | 0:26:23 | 0:26:27 | |
This is an enormous environmental and conservation success, I think, | 0:26:27 | 0:26:32 | |
-for Turkey, isn't it? -Yes. It's one of the few positive conservation | 0:26:32 | 0:26:37 | |
stories to come out of Turkey in the past decade. | 0:26:37 | 0:26:40 | |
Despite the new forest corridor, | 0:26:43 | 0:26:46 | |
the bears still face serious threats. | 0:26:46 | 0:26:48 | |
Can's tracking shows that while | 0:27:00 | 0:27:02 | |
some bears are using the wildlife corridor, | 0:27:02 | 0:27:04 | |
others have stopped migrating... | 0:27:04 | 0:27:06 | |
Straight ahead, one just went over the top. | 0:27:08 | 0:27:10 | |
..gathering instead at their favourite diner. | 0:27:10 | 0:27:13 | |
It's the Sarikamis landfill. | 0:27:13 | 0:27:16 | |
Landfill? A dump. | 0:27:16 | 0:27:18 | |
The town dump is the best place to see bears. | 0:27:18 | 0:27:22 | |
Look at that! | 0:27:22 | 0:27:23 | |
My God! | 0:27:24 | 0:27:25 | |
It's a huge, beautiful brown bear. | 0:27:26 | 0:27:29 | |
Look at the size of that! | 0:27:30 | 0:27:32 | |
Some of these males at this garbage dump because, you know, | 0:27:32 | 0:27:35 | |
they're feeding all the time, | 0:27:35 | 0:27:37 | |
they do reach grizzly sizes - up to 364 kilos. | 0:27:37 | 0:27:41 | |
Wow! I can see the black shapes moving around. | 0:27:41 | 0:27:46 | |
-There's...what? -The maximum count was 42. | 0:27:46 | 0:27:51 | |
I personally counted 33 in one night. | 0:27:51 | 0:27:54 | |
-33, here? -Personally. -At one time? | 0:27:54 | 0:27:57 | |
-Yeah, one time. -That's extraordinary. | 0:27:57 | 0:27:59 | |
Yeah. So they don't migrate | 0:27:59 | 0:28:01 | |
because there is food here in the rubbish dump. | 0:28:01 | 0:28:03 | |
Yeah, I mean, migrating is quite...work, you know. | 0:28:03 | 0:28:05 | |
A 250-kilometre round trip to eat acorns and fruit. | 0:28:05 | 0:28:10 | |
I mean, why would you do that? | 0:28:10 | 0:28:12 | |
So these bears have learned this behaviour. | 0:28:12 | 0:28:14 | |
But there's a lot of plastic here so they swallow plastic bags along | 0:28:14 | 0:28:17 | |
the way, chemicals, so it's very unhealthy. | 0:28:17 | 0:28:21 | |
The bears need to migrate through | 0:28:24 | 0:28:26 | |
the forest corridor and eat a healthy diet | 0:28:26 | 0:28:28 | |
and spread their genes around. | 0:28:28 | 0:28:30 | |
At the town dump, it's not only a dangerous diet they're getting, | 0:28:30 | 0:28:34 | |
but unwanted attention. | 0:28:34 | 0:28:35 | |
The locals come in. See, just local guys. | 0:28:36 | 0:28:39 | |
-Sightseeing. -They want to see bears. | 0:28:39 | 0:28:40 | |
It's not safe, because you get people who get out the car and I've | 0:28:40 | 0:28:45 | |
even seen people taking selfies with the bears right behind them. | 0:28:45 | 0:28:49 | |
People get out of their cars next to the bears? | 0:28:49 | 0:28:52 | |
Yeah, and we're worried it's going to lead to an attack one day and | 0:28:52 | 0:28:56 | |
the bears will be blamed for it and they will be all culled - or killed. | 0:28:56 | 0:29:00 | |
About four, five years ago, we said a gate needs to be installed. | 0:29:03 | 0:29:07 | |
The gate was installed the next day. | 0:29:07 | 0:29:08 | |
The problem is, within three days, | 0:29:08 | 0:29:11 | |
that gate that only garbage trucks could open, | 0:29:11 | 0:29:14 | |
it was dismantled and thrown away. | 0:29:14 | 0:29:17 | |
What I was told by the garbage-truck drivers, | 0:29:17 | 0:29:20 | |
because it was too much of a hassle to get out, open the gate, | 0:29:20 | 0:29:23 | |
-to close it again. -Ah, right. | 0:29:23 | 0:29:24 | |
Yeah, so we just talked to the new governor of Sarikamis, | 0:29:24 | 0:29:28 | |
and he totally agreed with us. | 0:29:28 | 0:29:30 | |
So we're hoping there will be a gate installed, like, that's automatic, | 0:29:30 | 0:29:34 | |
just for garbage trucks. | 0:29:34 | 0:29:36 | |
-OK. -But it is like, you know, groundhog day. | 0:29:36 | 0:29:39 | |
Every year, we tell the same thing to different people again and again | 0:29:39 | 0:29:43 | |
for, like, a decade now. | 0:29:43 | 0:29:45 | |
It's saddening to see these majestic bears | 0:29:48 | 0:29:50 | |
scrabbling around in plastic bags. | 0:29:50 | 0:29:52 | |
They are a Turkish national treasure. | 0:29:52 | 0:29:55 | |
The failure of the local authority to protect them is part of a much | 0:29:55 | 0:29:59 | |
bigger problem in Turkey. | 0:29:59 | 0:30:01 | |
Nationally, conservation hasn't just been a low priority, | 0:30:01 | 0:30:05 | |
it's been forgotten. | 0:30:05 | 0:30:06 | |
It's really sad. Really disappointing. | 0:30:17 | 0:30:19 | |
I think it's an area of life in Turkey | 0:30:19 | 0:30:22 | |
where things really need to improve | 0:30:22 | 0:30:26 | |
dramatically, drastically. | 0:30:26 | 0:30:28 | |
Turkey is ranked 177th out of 180 | 0:30:28 | 0:30:32 | |
countries for conservation. | 0:30:32 | 0:30:36 | |
Two of the only countries that come | 0:30:36 | 0:30:39 | |
beneath it are Somalia and Afghanistan. | 0:30:39 | 0:30:41 | |
I mean, Turkey is not doing well | 0:30:41 | 0:30:43 | |
when it comes to protecting something | 0:30:43 | 0:30:45 | |
that is so fundamentally wonderful about this incredible country. | 0:30:45 | 0:30:49 | |
I went north towards the valleys and highlands of Turkey's Black Sea | 0:31:16 | 0:31:21 | |
region and to another area of extraordinary beauty. | 0:31:21 | 0:31:24 | |
I love those moments when just nature can be so stunning and brings | 0:31:29 | 0:31:34 | |
a lump to your throat. | 0:31:34 | 0:31:36 | |
Its deep valleys and rugged terrain has meant that this region's always | 0:31:47 | 0:31:51 | |
been isolated and cut off from the rest of Turkey. | 0:31:51 | 0:31:54 | |
But now, that might be about to change. | 0:31:56 | 0:31:58 | |
So we think this is a relatively modest linking road, | 0:32:05 | 0:32:09 | |
connecting up to what will be called the Green Road. | 0:32:09 | 0:32:13 | |
It's going to be built snaking | 0:32:13 | 0:32:15 | |
through the upper hills and highlands here, | 0:32:15 | 0:32:18 | |
more than 1,000 miles long. | 0:32:18 | 0:32:20 | |
It's the kind of grand national infrastructure project that's | 0:32:21 | 0:32:25 | |
marked the leadership of Turkey's president, Recep Tayyip Erdogan. | 0:32:25 | 0:32:31 | |
It's very tricky. Part of the reason that President Erdogan is now quite | 0:32:31 | 0:32:35 | |
possibly the most successful democratically elected politician in | 0:32:35 | 0:32:40 | |
the world, he has won that many elections, | 0:32:40 | 0:32:43 | |
is because he is building things. | 0:32:43 | 0:32:44 | |
He is transforming the country. | 0:32:44 | 0:32:46 | |
He's building roads, | 0:32:46 | 0:32:48 | |
loads of them, and lots of people love that | 0:32:48 | 0:32:51 | |
but it doesn't endear him to everyone. | 0:32:51 | 0:32:53 | |
The government says the Green Road will link up isolated communities | 0:32:55 | 0:32:59 | |
and encourage tourism and economic development, but some locals here are unconvinced. | 0:32:59 | 0:33:05 | |
People here have a bit of a reputation - strong-minded, | 0:33:05 | 0:33:09 | |
strong-willed, a bit eccentric. | 0:33:09 | 0:33:11 | |
In an isolated and beautiful valley, | 0:33:13 | 0:33:17 | |
Metin Akunju runs a bed-and-breakfast | 0:33:17 | 0:33:20 | |
with a slight access issue. | 0:33:20 | 0:33:21 | |
Lovely to meet you. | 0:33:24 | 0:33:25 | |
SIMON LAUGHS | 0:33:28 | 0:33:29 | |
Flipping heck. | 0:33:32 | 0:33:33 | |
Metin, what on earth is this? | 0:33:33 | 0:33:35 | |
What is the drop beneath your cable car? | 0:33:43 | 0:33:47 | |
It turned out the crate had | 0:34:00 | 0:34:01 | |
been built by a bloke in the local village. | 0:34:01 | 0:34:03 | |
Right. OK. | 0:34:03 | 0:34:05 | |
Oh, bloody hell. | 0:34:11 | 0:34:13 | |
But Metin assured me he had designed it to take the weight of a cow. | 0:34:14 | 0:34:18 | |
It all looked pretty sturdy. | 0:34:19 | 0:34:21 | |
OK. | 0:34:21 | 0:34:22 | |
Aargh! | 0:34:34 | 0:34:36 | |
Oh, my God! | 0:34:39 | 0:34:40 | |
It wobbles a bit. In a rather scary way! | 0:34:42 | 0:34:46 | |
This is terrifying and awesome, all at the same time! | 0:34:55 | 0:34:59 | |
Very good, Metin. | 0:35:15 | 0:35:16 | |
Very good. | 0:35:16 | 0:35:17 | |
What inspired you to create this system? | 0:35:22 | 0:35:24 | |
Oh, my goodness. | 0:35:36 | 0:35:37 | |
Oh, wow! | 0:35:40 | 0:35:41 | |
Look at this. | 0:35:43 | 0:35:44 | |
Ho, ho, ho! | 0:35:46 | 0:35:47 | |
It's fantastic, Metin. | 0:35:49 | 0:35:51 | |
Beautiful. | 0:35:51 | 0:35:52 | |
COCKEREL CROWS | 0:36:14 | 0:36:17 | |
Your eggs from your chickens. | 0:36:32 | 0:36:34 | |
Your honey from your bees. | 0:36:36 | 0:36:37 | |
From "the outside"? | 0:36:42 | 0:36:43 | |
What do you mean "commercial road"? | 0:37:19 | 0:37:22 | |
You think the Green Road is actually to encourage and enable mining? | 0:37:52 | 0:37:57 | |
You keep living your incredible life. | 0:38:12 | 0:38:14 | |
An inspiration to us all, Metin. | 0:38:14 | 0:38:16 | |
-Bye-bye, Metin. -Bye-bye. | 0:38:20 | 0:38:21 | |
-Are you going to send me off? -Hope to see you again, eh? | 0:38:21 | 0:38:24 | |
I hope so, too. | 0:38:24 | 0:38:25 | |
It is a bit tricky to get to, | 0:38:27 | 0:38:29 | |
but Metin's extraordinary B&B gets five stars from me. | 0:38:29 | 0:38:32 | |
Driving through these valleys, | 0:38:33 | 0:38:35 | |
you do realise just how isolated the communities were | 0:38:35 | 0:38:39 | |
before the arrival of roads. | 0:38:39 | 0:38:41 | |
The villages are nestling in these incredibly steep valleys | 0:38:41 | 0:38:46 | |
and, historically, it was very difficult, of course, | 0:38:46 | 0:38:48 | |
before mobile phones, for people to communicate when they were on one | 0:38:48 | 0:38:53 | |
side of the valley from their loved ones. | 0:38:53 | 0:38:56 | |
But in the village up ahead, they came up with a solution. | 0:38:56 | 0:39:00 | |
Kuskoy. | 0:39:00 | 0:39:01 | |
We are here. | 0:39:02 | 0:39:03 | |
BIRD-LIKE WHISTLING | 0:39:08 | 0:39:09 | |
Mustafa still uses a language that | 0:39:22 | 0:39:24 | |
is thought to have originated in these valleys hundreds of years ago. | 0:39:24 | 0:39:28 | |
So just to be clear, many of you communicate here by whistling? | 0:39:36 | 0:39:40 | |
HE WHISTLES | 0:39:40 | 0:39:42 | |
Flipping heck! | 0:39:43 | 0:39:45 | |
It's a rather beautiful sound coming out of your mouth there. | 0:39:48 | 0:39:52 | |
All the way up there? | 0:40:05 | 0:40:08 | |
Wow! | 0:40:08 | 0:40:10 | |
Does Eren speak whistling? | 0:40:16 | 0:40:17 | |
Merhaba, Eren. Merhaba. | 0:40:17 | 0:40:19 | |
HE WHISTLES | 0:40:22 | 0:40:24 | |
HE WHISTLES | 0:40:27 | 0:40:30 | |
SHE WHISTLES | 0:40:32 | 0:40:35 | |
HE WHISTLES | 0:40:35 | 0:40:38 | |
WHISTLING | 0:40:42 | 0:40:45 | |
It felt like time to go. | 0:40:50 | 0:40:52 | |
Just to the north, I reach Turkey's Black Sea coast. | 0:40:56 | 0:40:59 | |
The most powerful figure in recent Turkish history, President Erdogan, | 0:41:01 | 0:41:05 | |
grew up around here. | 0:41:05 | 0:41:07 | |
Huge posters glorifying him are everywhere. | 0:41:07 | 0:41:10 | |
I can't stress enough what a significant figure he is | 0:41:10 | 0:41:14 | |
in modern Turkey. | 0:41:14 | 0:41:16 | |
He's a political colossus here. | 0:41:16 | 0:41:18 | |
But Erdogan isn't the first controversial charismatic politician | 0:41:19 | 0:41:23 | |
to dominate Turkey. | 0:41:23 | 0:41:25 | |
I headed to the nation's capital. | 0:41:25 | 0:41:27 | |
The city of Ankara became Turkey's seat of government | 0:41:29 | 0:41:32 | |
when the nation was founded in the 1920s by Mustafa Kemal Ataturk. | 0:41:32 | 0:41:37 | |
His mausoleum still draws millions of Turks today. | 0:41:37 | 0:41:40 | |
I mean, this is incredible. | 0:41:41 | 0:41:43 | |
Look at the scale of this. | 0:41:45 | 0:41:47 | |
All for one man. | 0:41:51 | 0:41:53 | |
MILITARY DRILL COMMAND | 0:41:53 | 0:41:54 | |
Ataturk, the father of the nation, closed Islamic schools, | 0:41:58 | 0:42:02 | |
gave votes to women | 0:42:02 | 0:42:03 | |
and aggressively insisted Turkey should be a secular state. | 0:42:03 | 0:42:07 | |
Most Turks, but especially secular Turks, | 0:42:07 | 0:42:10 | |
still revere Ataturk. | 0:42:10 | 0:42:12 | |
The military here have long been seen | 0:42:23 | 0:42:25 | |
as the ultimate defenders of Ataturk's ideals. | 0:42:25 | 0:42:28 | |
They've launched a series of coups, | 0:42:28 | 0:42:30 | |
particularly when they thought a government has become too Islamic. | 0:42:30 | 0:42:33 | |
Now President Erdogan's ruling party | 0:42:35 | 0:42:37 | |
is openly Islamic. | 0:42:37 | 0:42:39 | |
He thought he had the military under control, | 0:42:40 | 0:42:42 | |
but then, in 2016, a faction within the military launched another coup. | 0:42:42 | 0:42:46 | |
So this is the Turkish parliament building. | 0:42:50 | 0:42:52 | |
On the night of the failed coup, | 0:42:53 | 0:42:56 | |
several dozen MPs, Members of Parliament, lawmakers, | 0:42:56 | 0:42:59 | |
took shelter inside the building, | 0:42:59 | 0:43:01 | |
partly as sanctuary and partially to defend it, | 0:43:01 | 0:43:03 | |
because they could hear gunfire in the streets around. | 0:43:03 | 0:43:07 | |
And while they were inside, | 0:43:07 | 0:43:08 | |
a Turkish Air Force fighter bomber came over | 0:43:08 | 0:43:11 | |
and tried to bomb the building. | 0:43:11 | 0:43:13 | |
Can you imagine how bizarre that would be | 0:43:15 | 0:43:18 | |
if you transposed that attack, | 0:43:18 | 0:43:20 | |
that event, to London or Washington? | 0:43:20 | 0:43:22 | |
What an assault on democracy that would be. | 0:43:22 | 0:43:25 | |
The coup attempt was defeated. | 0:43:27 | 0:43:29 | |
Erdogan emerged as a hero, | 0:43:29 | 0:43:31 | |
a defender of democracy. | 0:43:31 | 0:43:34 | |
People rallied to him. | 0:43:34 | 0:43:35 | |
He blamed the coup on the secretive Gulen movement, | 0:43:35 | 0:43:38 | |
led by a US-based Turkish preacher. | 0:43:38 | 0:43:40 | |
A state of emergency was declared | 0:43:42 | 0:43:43 | |
and a massive round-up of suspects began. | 0:43:43 | 0:43:46 | |
It's since become a purge on an incredible scale. | 0:43:48 | 0:43:51 | |
Tens of thousands, including army officers | 0:43:51 | 0:43:53 | |
but also journalists, teachers and doctors | 0:43:53 | 0:43:55 | |
have been arrested, detained or sacked. | 0:43:55 | 0:43:58 | |
I'm trying to meet up with somebody | 0:43:59 | 0:44:00 | |
who's been caught up in the purge. | 0:44:00 | 0:44:04 | |
But we can't meet too openly, | 0:44:04 | 0:44:06 | |
so we've come to a location outside the city. | 0:44:06 | 0:44:09 | |
Hopefully, she's going to turn up. | 0:44:09 | 0:44:12 | |
I'm meeting one of the few brave enough to speak out. | 0:44:15 | 0:44:19 | |
She was suspended as a teacher without warning. | 0:44:19 | 0:44:21 | |
-Nice to meet you. -Lovely to meet you, too. | 0:44:21 | 0:44:24 | |
TRANSLATION: | 0:44:24 | 0:44:26 | |
She denies any link to the plotters. | 0:44:34 | 0:44:36 | |
So why do you think, then, | 0:44:52 | 0:44:54 | |
that you have been targeted and suspended from your job? | 0:44:54 | 0:44:58 | |
Some say the purge is a legitimate reaction | 0:45:32 | 0:45:34 | |
to a secret, dangerous organisation. | 0:45:34 | 0:45:36 | |
Others fear it's being used to crush all opposition to Erdogan. | 0:45:36 | 0:45:40 | |
He's elected and has huge support, | 0:45:41 | 0:45:43 | |
but some commentators now believe he wants to keep power for ever, | 0:45:43 | 0:45:47 | |
even taking the country down a path towards dictatorship, | 0:45:47 | 0:45:50 | |
while also shifting Turkey to become a fully Islamic nation, | 0:45:50 | 0:45:54 | |
governed by religious principles and laws. | 0:45:54 | 0:45:56 | |
They point to the enhanced role of the Diyanet, | 0:45:57 | 0:45:59 | |
the government department responsible for religious affairs, | 0:45:59 | 0:46:03 | |
as evidence of this new direction. | 0:46:03 | 0:46:05 | |
I think I'm about to get as close as I will | 0:46:05 | 0:46:08 | |
to the heart of power and influence in this country. | 0:46:08 | 0:46:11 | |
I'm off to meet the man who's been described | 0:46:13 | 0:46:15 | |
as the calm power in Turkey. | 0:46:15 | 0:46:17 | |
The Diyanet is the religious authority | 0:46:19 | 0:46:21 | |
that oversees Turkey's 85,000 mosques. | 0:46:21 | 0:46:25 | |
It writes the crucial Friday sermons. | 0:46:25 | 0:46:28 | |
The Diyanet is central to the lives | 0:46:28 | 0:46:29 | |
of millions of people in this country, | 0:46:29 | 0:46:32 | |
even if they don't know it. | 0:46:32 | 0:46:34 | |
Under President Erdogan's rule, | 0:46:34 | 0:46:35 | |
the budget of the Diyanet has quadrupled during the past decade. | 0:46:35 | 0:46:39 | |
It's powerful and influential. | 0:46:39 | 0:46:41 | |
I met the boss, Professor Mehmet Gormez. | 0:46:42 | 0:46:45 | |
-Nice to meet you. -Nice to meet you, too. | 0:46:45 | 0:46:46 | |
-Nice to see you. -Thank you. -Thank you. -That's lovely. | 0:46:46 | 0:46:49 | |
-Thank you so much. -Thank you. Tesekkur. -OK. | 0:46:49 | 0:46:52 | |
-Tesekkur ederim. -Tesekkur ederim, yes. | 0:46:52 | 0:46:53 | |
-It's OK? -Yes. -Yes. -Thank you. It's OK. | 0:46:53 | 0:46:56 | |
I've been practising. All right. | 0:46:56 | 0:46:58 | |
So, Professor, I would really like to try and understand | 0:46:58 | 0:47:03 | |
the direction that Turkey is taking. | 0:47:03 | 0:47:08 | |
TRANSLATION: | 0:47:08 | 0:47:09 | |
'President Erdogan has said women can't be treated equally to men, | 0:48:00 | 0:48:04 | |
'and that, as good Turks, they should have at least three children. | 0:48:04 | 0:48:07 | |
'But the professor was keen to stress | 0:48:07 | 0:48:09 | |
'Turkey's more liberal Islamic values.' | 0:48:09 | 0:48:11 | |
'In the Islamic world, | 0:48:38 | 0:48:39 | |
'Turkey's always been a more tolerant moderate voice | 0:48:39 | 0:48:42 | |
'than ultra-conservative countries like Saudi Arabia.' | 0:48:42 | 0:48:45 | |
President Erdogan has said that Turkey is the hope | 0:48:46 | 0:48:50 | |
of the Islamic world. | 0:48:50 | 0:48:52 | |
In the Middle East, we've seen areas that are in complete turmoil. | 0:48:52 | 0:48:56 | |
Does the Diyanet have a role to play in guiding and inspiring Muslims | 0:48:56 | 0:49:01 | |
around the world? | 0:49:01 | 0:49:03 | |
I thought that was really interesting. | 0:49:29 | 0:49:31 | |
I'm not looking to airbrush out the problems of this country, | 0:49:33 | 0:49:38 | |
from the treatment of minorities and women | 0:49:38 | 0:49:41 | |
to human rights abuses, | 0:49:41 | 0:49:43 | |
the quashing of free speech. | 0:49:43 | 0:49:45 | |
There are terrible things happening here, | 0:49:45 | 0:49:48 | |
and yet, in many of the neighbouring countries, | 0:49:48 | 0:49:50 | |
in this part of the world, | 0:49:50 | 0:49:51 | |
things are much, much worse. | 0:49:51 | 0:49:54 | |
I really hope Turkey as a nation | 0:49:54 | 0:49:57 | |
can deliver on the high morals | 0:49:57 | 0:50:00 | |
that he said this country embodies. | 0:50:00 | 0:50:02 | |
'Below the offices of the Diyanet...' | 0:50:04 | 0:50:06 | |
Looks like I'm going down to the car park. | 0:50:06 | 0:50:08 | |
'..work is already well under way | 0:50:08 | 0:50:09 | |
'to spread Turkey's religious messages and values - | 0:50:09 | 0:50:13 | |
'around the globe.' | 0:50:13 | 0:50:14 | |
Look at this! | 0:50:14 | 0:50:16 | |
So this is Diyanet TV. | 0:50:16 | 0:50:19 | |
Here, brand-spanking-new, | 0:50:20 | 0:50:22 | |
state-of-the-art television and radio stations | 0:50:22 | 0:50:24 | |
broadcast 24 hours a day. | 0:50:24 | 0:50:26 | |
Oh, my goodness. Look, it's the gallery. | 0:50:29 | 0:50:31 | |
'Critics complain the Diyanet is the religious mouthpiece | 0:50:34 | 0:50:37 | |
'for a president intent on creating | 0:50:37 | 0:50:39 | |
'a more conservative, authoritarian nation.' | 0:50:39 | 0:50:42 | |
They get seven million viewers here in Turkey alone. | 0:50:42 | 0:50:47 | |
They have YouTube videos up | 0:50:47 | 0:50:49 | |
that are watched by more than 25 million people, | 0:50:49 | 0:50:53 | |
so there's a lot of influence coming from this room | 0:50:53 | 0:50:56 | |
through the channels. | 0:50:56 | 0:50:57 | |
President Erdogan's supporters say | 0:50:57 | 0:50:59 | |
this is for the majority of Turks who are religious, | 0:50:59 | 0:51:02 | |
and they claim it allows the moderate values of Turkey | 0:51:02 | 0:51:05 | |
to be broadcast around the Islamic world. | 0:51:05 | 0:51:07 | |
It can be hard to get a handle on Turkey. | 0:51:10 | 0:51:12 | |
Is it European or Middle Eastern? | 0:51:12 | 0:51:15 | |
Religious or liberal? | 0:51:15 | 0:51:16 | |
Perhaps it's a bit of both. | 0:51:16 | 0:51:18 | |
For decades, people have been wondering and worrying about Turkey. | 0:51:18 | 0:51:24 | |
And they've encouraged and pressed the Turks | 0:51:24 | 0:51:27 | |
to make a choice between the East and the West, | 0:51:27 | 0:51:30 | |
between being part of Europe or part of the Middle East. | 0:51:30 | 0:51:34 | |
And most people said that Turkey needed to choose, | 0:51:34 | 0:51:37 | |
it needed to make a decision, | 0:51:37 | 0:51:38 | |
but the sense I have, the strong sense I have, | 0:51:38 | 0:51:41 | |
is that Turkey's going to do something different. | 0:51:41 | 0:51:43 | |
Turkey is not going to choose East or West. | 0:51:44 | 0:51:47 | |
Turkey is going to choose its own destiny, | 0:51:47 | 0:51:49 | |
it's going to take its own path. | 0:51:49 | 0:51:51 | |
And that really matters, | 0:51:51 | 0:51:52 | |
because Turkey is powerful and it is influential. | 0:51:52 | 0:51:55 | |
Both in terms of religion and faith, | 0:51:55 | 0:51:58 | |
but politically, militarily, and through culture as well, | 0:51:58 | 0:52:01 | |
as I hope I'm about to see. | 0:52:01 | 0:52:03 | |
Turkey hasn't been so key to global affairs | 0:52:15 | 0:52:18 | |
since the time this land was ruled by the Ottomans - | 0:52:18 | 0:52:21 | |
part of the greatest Islamic empire the world has ever seen. | 0:52:21 | 0:52:25 | |
Under President Erdogan, | 0:52:26 | 0:52:28 | |
the popularity of the all-powerful Ottoman sultans, | 0:52:28 | 0:52:32 | |
grand rulers, has soared. | 0:52:32 | 0:52:34 | |
Perhaps that's no coincidence. | 0:52:34 | 0:52:36 | |
The Turks are calling it Ottomania. | 0:52:36 | 0:52:39 | |
Look at this! | 0:52:39 | 0:52:40 | |
Merhaba. | 0:52:43 | 0:52:44 | |
All very normal. | 0:52:45 | 0:52:47 | |
I don't know why they're looking at us | 0:52:47 | 0:52:49 | |
like we're out of place. | 0:52:49 | 0:52:50 | |
Exactly! Yeah, they are. | 0:52:50 | 0:52:51 | |
This is Magnificent Century: Kosem, | 0:53:02 | 0:53:05 | |
a huge period costume drama | 0:53:05 | 0:53:08 | |
set within the sultans' royal palace. | 0:53:08 | 0:53:11 | |
You might have missed it, but it's broadcast to the world, | 0:53:11 | 0:53:14 | |
watched in prime time in scores of countries | 0:53:14 | 0:53:16 | |
and making lead actors like Farah Zeynep Abdullah - | 0:53:16 | 0:53:19 | |
who partly grew up in Maidenhead - global superstars. | 0:53:19 | 0:53:23 | |
You're a big star... | 0:53:23 | 0:53:25 | |
-Thank you. -..in a mega-drama. | 0:53:25 | 0:53:27 | |
Your one goes out to a quarter of the world. | 0:53:27 | 0:53:31 | |
-Yeah. Wow! -A quarter of the world! | 0:53:31 | 0:53:33 | |
It does, yeah. | 0:53:33 | 0:53:34 | |
Scary. What role do you play? | 0:53:34 | 0:53:37 | |
I play Faria, | 0:53:37 | 0:53:38 | |
who is a Hungarian princess | 0:53:38 | 0:53:42 | |
and a warrior at the same time, | 0:53:42 | 0:53:44 | |
-so she's a... -You're a warrior Hungarian princess. | 0:53:44 | 0:53:47 | |
-Yeah. -That's pretty cool. | 0:53:47 | 0:53:48 | |
This drama is even popular in conservative Islamic countries, | 0:53:50 | 0:53:54 | |
where the strong female characters | 0:53:54 | 0:53:56 | |
have become heroines, and even role models. | 0:53:56 | 0:53:59 | |
I'm just admiring your empire. | 0:54:00 | 0:54:03 | |
The show was the brainchild | 0:54:03 | 0:54:04 | |
of executive producer Timur Savci. | 0:54:04 | 0:54:06 | |
TRANSLATION: | 0:54:07 | 0:54:10 | |
Timur's drama has even been blamed | 0:54:34 | 0:54:36 | |
for rising divorce rates. | 0:54:36 | 0:54:38 | |
You've created an incredible world. | 0:54:50 | 0:54:53 | |
Have you heard about this? | 0:55:12 | 0:55:14 | |
Men have been coming, from some of the Gulf states, to Istanbul, | 0:55:14 | 0:55:19 | |
to get their moustaches cosmetically enhanced | 0:55:19 | 0:55:24 | |
so they can look like a sultan. | 0:55:24 | 0:55:27 | |
Is this true? | 0:55:27 | 0:55:28 | |
-Yes. -Unbelievable! | 0:55:28 | 0:55:30 | |
You're not going to believe this. | 0:55:33 | 0:55:35 | |
I'm getting roped in to the production. | 0:55:35 | 0:55:37 | |
What do you think? | 0:55:41 | 0:55:42 | |
-So... -Hey. -It's a tricky moment. | 0:55:43 | 0:55:46 | |
I rather like it. | 0:55:46 | 0:55:47 | |
It's not a difficult part. | 0:55:47 | 0:55:49 | |
-Are you seriously saying I have to say a line? -Yes. -In Turkish? | 0:55:51 | 0:55:54 | |
THEY SPEAK IN TURKISH | 0:55:54 | 0:56:01 | |
HE SPEAKS IN TURKISH | 0:56:04 | 0:56:07 | |
Sorry to interrupt, | 0:56:07 | 0:56:08 | |
but they're ready and they're there waiting for us. | 0:56:08 | 0:56:11 | |
We can practise over there. | 0:56:11 | 0:56:12 | |
Wow. OK. Thank you very much. | 0:56:12 | 0:56:15 | |
HE PRACTISES HIS LINE | 0:56:15 | 0:56:17 | |
You cannot act but you must stay like this. | 0:56:26 | 0:56:30 | |
Yeah, OK. | 0:56:30 | 0:56:32 | |
Right hand over to the left. | 0:56:32 | 0:56:33 | |
THEY PRACTISE LINES | 0:56:36 | 0:56:40 | |
I've forgotten the words! | 0:56:43 | 0:56:45 | |
Bloody hell. | 0:56:50 | 0:56:51 | |
(That was all right.) | 0:57:19 | 0:57:21 | |
-Perfect. -Oh! No. | 0:57:24 | 0:57:25 | |
My coach, my mentor. | 0:57:30 | 0:57:32 | |
This is a huge Turkish success story. | 0:57:32 | 0:57:36 | |
A project with a massive audience, | 0:57:36 | 0:57:39 | |
a global reach that promotes a powerful story | 0:57:39 | 0:57:42 | |
and strong characters. | 0:57:42 | 0:57:44 | |
It is a lot of fun to be just a tiny, tiny part of it. | 0:57:44 | 0:57:47 | |
I headed back to Istanbul, | 0:57:53 | 0:57:55 | |
where the real-life palaces of the former Ottoman sultans | 0:57:55 | 0:57:58 | |
and the magnificent mosques they built | 0:57:58 | 0:58:00 | |
still draw millions of visitors. | 0:58:00 | 0:58:02 | |
This is close to where my journey around Turkey began, | 0:58:05 | 0:58:08 | |
and it's where it ends. | 0:58:08 | 0:58:10 | |
I do feel that my travels in this country | 0:58:11 | 0:58:13 | |
have shown me many of the huge problems and issues | 0:58:13 | 0:58:16 | |
that Turkey is facing - | 0:58:16 | 0:58:18 | |
and nobody should deny they exist - | 0:58:18 | 0:58:21 | |
but I do also think this journey | 0:58:21 | 0:58:23 | |
has shown me much of what's best about this great country. | 0:58:23 | 0:58:26 |