Sons of the Past Borgen

-What's the matter with your hand?

-It's these two fingers.

I think a nerve got stuck or something.

Have you called the doctor?

This programme contains some strong language.

STATION ANNOUNCEMENT

-Vassily Andrejev?

-Katrine?

-Yes.

-Hello.

-Hello.

-I have some coffee.

-Oh, thank you.

You're welcome.

-Shall we walk?

-Sure.

-I couldn't go back even if I wanted to.

-Oh? Why?

I happened to leak some information to the CIA. But it's OK.

I do not miss Moscow. And I am... How would the Americans put it?

Small potatoes.

I'm here because I'm trying to defend a man I think is innocent,

but the media will not let him go.

You realise I have never spoken about this publicly before, yes?

Yes.

I knew Soren Ravn.

He was a bright young man, and handsome. All the women loved him.

He was very interesting to us at that time.

He had a lot of potential for KGB.

Did you approach him?

We discussed it several times,

and we talked about it with our agent, Phoenix.

-Gorm Kofoed?

-Yeah.

But Phoenix was our most valuable spy in Scandinavia,

and he told us he thought Ravn might say no if we approached him,

so we concluded it was too big a risk for us to take,

because involving Ravn might expose Phoenix.

So, no - Ravn never worked for us.

Thank you.

I have the greatest respect for people who are loyal.

You'd be surprised to know the many reasons people have

for betraying their country.

-Besides ideology?

-Yes. In my world, we called them mice.

-Mice?

M is for money, I for ideology, C for crime, E for ego. KATRINE CHUCKLES

A lot of people do it just so they can feel important.

-REPORTER:

-As a former head of KGB operations in Denmark,

what is your reaction to the allegations towards Soren Ravn?

They are complete nonsense. I never employed Soren Ravn,

and I know for a fact that the Stasi didn't either.

Also, I am given to understand that the Danish PET also have

nothing to indicate that Ravn was an agent.

Pardon me for being so blunt, but couldn't you have some motives

to conceal the truth if Ravn indeed had been a spy?

What motives would they be?

Maybe a loyalty to the KGB?

There is no loyalty.

I believe in Western democracy, and I do not believe that

an innocent man should be punished for things he did not do.

Kofoed was my spy. Ravn never was. It's as simple as that.

SHE SIGHS

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BABY CRIES

OK.

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