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So she says to us, "Why are you always mumbling all the time?" | 0:00:30 | 0:00:34 | |
I says, "Why am I always mumbling all the time?" She says, "Aye, why are you always mumbling all the time?" | 0:00:34 | 0:00:38 | |
I says, "You know what your trouble is, pet?" | 0:00:38 | 0:00:40 | |
-You can't tell talk from mutter. -Thanks, mate(!) | 0:00:40 | 0:00:44 | |
Here's a topical one. A bloke goes up to Twiggy. | 0:00:44 | 0:00:47 | |
-Pay him off, man, Tommy, for hell's sake! -Howay, son, you're off. | 0:00:47 | 0:00:50 | |
Did somebody die or what? | 0:00:50 | 0:00:52 | |
Your bingo books are now on sale in the lounge! | 0:00:52 | 0:00:56 | |
Give us a Mackeson, pet. | 0:01:00 | 0:01:02 | |
Eyes down in ten minutes! | 0:01:02 | 0:01:03 | |
Yours, bonny lad? | 0:01:07 | 0:01:08 | |
What? Oh, yeah. It's me daughter. | 0:01:10 | 0:01:13 | |
Bonny little lass. What's she called? | 0:01:15 | 0:01:18 | |
Leigh Ann. | 0:01:18 | 0:01:20 | |
Must have got her face from her mother. | 0:01:20 | 0:01:23 | |
Eh. You'd think butter wouldn't melt in their mouths at that age, yeah. | 0:01:23 | 0:01:26 | |
Yes, well it wouldn't. | 0:01:26 | 0:01:28 | |
You look at photos like these and you think, "Look at that little smile, | 0:01:36 | 0:01:42 | |
"look at the light in them eyes... whole life ahead." | 0:01:42 | 0:01:46 | |
But you don't know what that life'll be, do you? | 0:01:46 | 0:01:49 | |
Nobody knows how a bairn's life'll turn out. | 0:01:49 | 0:01:53 | |
Do you recognise him? | 0:01:54 | 0:01:57 | |
Is it you? | 0:01:57 | 0:01:59 | |
No, it's Adolf Hitler. | 0:01:59 | 0:02:02 | |
I cut it out of a magazine! | 0:02:08 | 0:02:12 | |
Adolf Hitler! | 0:02:12 | 0:02:14 | |
Look at his cheeky little face! | 0:02:14 | 0:02:16 | |
Beautiful woman. | 0:02:18 | 0:02:21 | |
Thanks for showing it to me. | 0:02:21 | 0:02:23 | |
You must really regret that you couldn't have children. | 0:02:25 | 0:02:29 | |
Well... They'd have been grown up and gone by now anyway. | 0:02:29 | 0:02:32 | |
But they'd still be there. | 0:02:32 | 0:02:34 | |
And you don't have anybody, do you? | 0:02:34 | 0:02:37 | |
Why's that then? Married to the job? | 0:02:37 | 0:02:41 | |
Or would it be disloyal? | 0:02:41 | 0:02:43 | |
Two years since she died, isn't it? | 0:02:43 | 0:02:47 | |
I just hate the idea of you being lonely, George. | 0:02:47 | 0:02:51 | |
I'm alone. I'm not lonely. | 0:02:51 | 0:02:54 | |
Well. I'm not alone. | 0:02:56 | 0:02:57 | |
I've got Leigh Ann. And now I've got me Mum and Dad again. | 0:02:57 | 0:03:00 | |
But I am lonely. | 0:03:00 | 0:03:02 | |
Though not as lonely as I was when I was living with a man who didn't want me. | 0:03:03 | 0:03:07 | |
I've given up trying to give John advice. | 0:03:07 | 0:03:09 | |
-There you go... -PHONE RINGS | 0:03:09 | 0:03:12 | |
-No, no, no, no... -Yes. Yes! | 0:03:12 | 0:03:15 | |
Well... thank you, Lisa. | 0:03:15 | 0:03:16 | |
That was very nice. | 0:03:16 | 0:03:18 | |
Is there a Mr Gently here? | 0:03:18 | 0:03:21 | |
Excuse me... | 0:03:58 | 0:04:01 | |
It's through that door, Mister. | 0:04:01 | 0:04:03 | |
Just get home, pet, go on. | 0:04:03 | 0:04:05 | |
Somebody get hold of these kids and get them home. | 0:04:05 | 0:04:09 | |
Chap down the corridor heard loud voices about a couple of hours ago, peeked out through his doorway | 0:04:09 | 0:04:17 | |
and he saw this bloke running towards the stairs. | 0:04:17 | 0:04:20 | |
He had a cut on his face, blood running from it. | 0:04:20 | 0:04:23 | |
But our chap did nothing. Because apparently she made a lot of noise. | 0:04:23 | 0:04:26 | |
Drank a lot. Had a lot of male visitors. | 0:04:26 | 0:04:29 | |
Somebody's whacked her pretty hard there. | 0:04:29 | 0:04:31 | |
What's all this about? Hanky covering her eyes? | 0:04:33 | 0:04:36 | |
What you looking for? | 0:04:36 | 0:04:38 | |
-There must be a poker here somewhere. -Reckon it was the murder weapon? | 0:04:38 | 0:04:42 | |
-I know it was. -Why? | 0:04:42 | 0:04:44 | |
Dark smudges in with the blood. | 0:04:44 | 0:04:46 | |
You didn't see them, did you? What? | 0:04:46 | 0:04:47 | |
You thought her mascara had run? It's ash. | 0:04:47 | 0:04:50 | |
-Have I done something to offend you, guv? -No. | 0:04:50 | 0:04:53 | |
-Here we go. -You found it? | 0:05:16 | 0:05:19 | |
Birth certificate... | 0:05:19 | 0:05:20 | |
for one Agnes Charlton. | 0:05:22 | 0:05:25 | |
-Is that her then? -No. Born 1953. | 0:05:25 | 0:05:28 | |
Mother Domenica Charlton, aged 19. | 0:05:30 | 0:05:33 | |
Maybe this is the mother then. | 0:05:33 | 0:05:35 | |
Make her what? Early 30s... | 0:05:35 | 0:05:38 | |
Reckon? | 0:05:38 | 0:05:40 | |
Be about right, wouldn't it? | 0:05:40 | 0:05:42 | |
Does it give a father's name? | 0:05:42 | 0:05:43 | |
-Yeah. -You all right? | 0:05:43 | 0:05:46 | |
Sir, the woman's brother. Mr Paige. | 0:05:53 | 0:05:55 | |
-I want to see her! -No, you don't. | 0:05:55 | 0:05:56 | |
-She's me kid sister! -Yes, Mr Paige, but you don't want to see her, believe me. Do you live nearby? | 0:05:56 | 0:06:01 | |
I'm at me mother's at the minute, but I was in the pub. | 0:06:01 | 0:06:04 | |
Well, we'd best go and tell her. | 0:06:04 | 0:06:06 | |
She'll know by now. The whole town knows. | 0:06:06 | 0:06:08 | |
Take me to your mother's, and we'll talk about it there. | 0:06:08 | 0:06:10 | |
All right? Just wait in the car. | 0:06:10 | 0:06:13 | |
-Take him, will you? -Right lads, all yours. | 0:06:13 | 0:06:15 | |
You stay here and take a full statement from this chap and any other residents you can find. | 0:06:17 | 0:06:21 | |
When did he last see her alive, anybody know about boyfriends etc. | 0:06:21 | 0:06:25 | |
The man with the cut on his face... | 0:06:25 | 0:06:28 | |
has he seen him before, would he know him again. | 0:06:28 | 0:06:31 | |
And send someone to check all the hospitals in case somebody comes in looking for stitches in his face? | 0:06:31 | 0:06:36 | |
Saturday night in Newcastle, we'll get the phone book, but do it anyway. | 0:06:36 | 0:06:39 | |
I'll be back. | 0:06:39 | 0:06:41 | |
Do you have any idea who might do this to your daughter, Mrs Paige? | 0:06:43 | 0:06:48 | |
Only her neighbour said that Domenica had a lot of visitors. | 0:06:52 | 0:06:58 | |
-Men. -We loved Domenica, Inspector, | 0:06:58 | 0:07:01 | |
we love her. She was always... | 0:07:01 | 0:07:04 | |
-fragile, when she was a bairn, you know. -She has a daughter. | 0:07:04 | 0:07:09 | |
Aye... Agnes. | 0:07:09 | 0:07:12 | |
Where is she? | 0:07:12 | 0:07:15 | |
She lives with her Dad on the coast. | 0:07:15 | 0:07:17 | |
Agnes is upstairs asleep. | 0:07:18 | 0:07:20 | |
She wanted to stop with me tonight. | 0:07:20 | 0:07:23 | |
-You'd better bring her down. -You fetch her, Darren. | 0:07:25 | 0:07:28 | |
Do I have to tell her? | 0:07:30 | 0:07:31 | |
Well, somebody's got to. | 0:07:33 | 0:07:35 | |
Where on the coast, Mrs Paige? | 0:07:44 | 0:07:46 | |
What? Oh, Alan. High Blyth. | 0:07:46 | 0:07:49 | |
Would you | 0:07:49 | 0:07:50 | |
write his address down for me, please? | 0:07:50 | 0:07:53 | |
Just here. | 0:07:53 | 0:07:55 | |
There you go. | 0:07:59 | 0:08:00 | |
< GIRL CRIES OUT | 0:08:00 | 0:08:03 | |
How's that child going to live with this? | 0:08:09 | 0:08:11 | |
When did the marriage fail? | 0:08:14 | 0:08:16 | |
It never worked. | 0:08:16 | 0:08:18 | |
It had no chance. | 0:08:18 | 0:08:21 | |
-I want me mammy, Nana. -Your mammy's in Heaven, Agnes. | 0:08:23 | 0:08:27 | |
I don't want her to go to Heaven, I want her here! | 0:08:27 | 0:08:33 | |
Agnes... | 0:08:33 | 0:08:35 | |
is it all right if I talk to you? | 0:08:35 | 0:08:36 | |
I don't want to answer questions! | 0:08:36 | 0:08:39 | |
I want me Mammy back! | 0:08:39 | 0:08:41 | |
I'm sorry, Agnes. Tomorrow... | 0:08:41 | 0:08:43 | |
Come on, pet. You can sleep in my bed. | 0:08:43 | 0:08:45 | |
Agnes's father, Domenica's husband is... Alan Charlton, correct? | 0:08:51 | 0:08:57 | |
Did your sister have a regular boyfriend, Darren? | 0:08:57 | 0:09:02 | |
Any enemies? | 0:09:02 | 0:09:05 | |
Everybody loves Domenica. | 0:09:05 | 0:09:07 | |
I know that you think bad of her for the way she lives. | 0:09:07 | 0:09:12 | |
Everybody who knew her loved her. | 0:09:12 | 0:09:15 | |
She was that sort of lass. | 0:09:15 | 0:09:19 | |
You were obviously very close. I'm sorry. | 0:09:19 | 0:09:22 | |
-When did you last see her? -Yesterday? | 0:09:24 | 0:09:26 | |
Did she seem OK? She didn't mention any problems with her... boyfriends? | 0:09:26 | 0:09:31 | |
No. | 0:09:31 | 0:09:33 | |
-Or her husband? -No. | 0:09:33 | 0:09:36 | |
Would you mind having a look at this for me, please, Darren? | 0:09:38 | 0:09:41 | |
Dear God. What's she put that for? | 0:09:48 | 0:09:50 | |
Did your sister think her ex-husband was an evil man? | 0:09:50 | 0:09:55 | |
No, she loved him. | 0:09:55 | 0:09:56 | |
And he worshipped the ground she walked on. It'll kill him, this. | 0:09:56 | 0:09:59 | |
So? Why would she write that? | 0:09:59 | 0:10:01 | |
Domenica was... | 0:10:03 | 0:10:05 | |
-fragile... -Fragile. | 0:10:05 | 0:10:07 | |
Yes. | 0:10:07 | 0:10:10 | |
When you use the word "fragile" what exactly do you mean by that, Darren? | 0:10:10 | 0:10:14 | |
There were times when she... | 0:10:18 | 0:10:20 | |
were taken away. For her own safety, like. | 0:10:20 | 0:10:24 | |
You mean your sister was mentally disturbed. | 0:10:24 | 0:10:27 | |
She got sectioned twice. | 0:10:27 | 0:10:29 | |
Why would you carry your daughter's birth certificate around in your handbag? | 0:10:32 | 0:10:36 | |
Where's Leigh Ann's birth certificate? | 0:10:36 | 0:10:38 | |
-Her mother's got it, I suppose. In a drawer somewhere. -Exactly. | 0:10:38 | 0:10:40 | |
Well, look, from what we know she was crackers, weren't she. | 0:10:40 | 0:10:43 | |
I mean, when Alan Charlton walks in, he won't have horns and a tail, will he? | 0:10:43 | 0:10:47 | |
-Taking their time, aren't they? -Tell me again what the bloke down the corridor said. | 0:10:51 | 0:10:55 | |
That Domenica was shouting. | 0:10:59 | 0:11:02 | |
There was a man's voice raised and he saw the bloke with the cut face | 0:11:02 | 0:11:06 | |
but he can't say exactly what time any of this happened... | 0:11:06 | 0:11:10 | |
on account of being out of his mind on Brown Ale, probably. | 0:11:10 | 0:11:13 | |
-But he thought he didn't have a local accent. -Scottish accent, he thinks. | 0:11:13 | 0:11:17 | |
But he was drunk. He was useless. | 0:11:17 | 0:11:19 | |
All the same, best let the hospitals know we'd particularly like | 0:11:19 | 0:11:24 | |
to hear about a Scot who needed treatment for a cut on his face. | 0:11:24 | 0:11:27 | |
Sir? | 0:11:27 | 0:11:29 | |
How do we play this with the husband, sir? Light or heavy? | 0:11:32 | 0:11:36 | |
What do you think? | 0:11:36 | 0:11:38 | |
-Heavy. -Correct. | 0:11:38 | 0:11:40 | |
It was a savage attack, I'm afraid. | 0:11:55 | 0:11:57 | |
And her eyes had been covered with a handkerchief. | 0:11:57 | 0:12:01 | |
-Who would want to do that? -You can't think of anybody then? | 0:12:01 | 0:12:04 | |
Me? No. | 0:12:04 | 0:12:07 | |
So... | 0:12:22 | 0:12:24 | |
Where were you earlier on tonight, Alan? Say from six o'clock onwards. | 0:12:24 | 0:12:28 | |
-I was at home. -Alone? | 0:12:28 | 0:12:31 | |
As it turned out. | 0:12:31 | 0:12:33 | |
Normally Agnes is with us but she wanted to get the bus over to her Nana's. | 0:12:33 | 0:12:38 | |
-Not her mother? -She isn't allowed to go to her mothers. | 0:12:38 | 0:12:42 | |
-For obvious reasons. -On your tod then. | 0:12:42 | 0:12:45 | |
Can anybody vouch for this? | 0:12:45 | 0:12:47 | |
-What are you trying to say? -I'm not trying to say anything, Alan. | 0:12:47 | 0:12:49 | |
I'm just trying to establish where you... | 0:12:49 | 0:12:51 | |
That's my wife on that trolley. | 0:12:53 | 0:12:58 | |
You know? | 0:12:58 | 0:13:01 | |
The woman I married... | 0:13:01 | 0:13:03 | |
The mother of my bairn... | 0:13:05 | 0:13:07 | |
Taylor. | 0:13:13 | 0:13:15 | |
Sir? | 0:13:15 | 0:13:17 | |
Mr Charlton can go and see his daughter. | 0:13:17 | 0:13:21 | |
I'm sorry... We'll talk again tomorrow. | 0:13:21 | 0:13:23 | |
No other injuries apart from the ones to the head. | 0:13:33 | 0:13:36 | |
Signs of sexual activity but not of rape. | 0:13:36 | 0:13:38 | |
Died between 5pm and 9pm yesterday. | 0:13:38 | 0:13:41 | |
-What was in her stomach? -Nothing. -Bloodstream? | 0:13:41 | 0:13:43 | |
Alcohol and amyl nitrate. | 0:13:43 | 0:13:46 | |
She used the drugs to keep going, I would guess. | 0:13:46 | 0:13:48 | |
Sir... Scotch bloke got four stitches put in his head at ten o'clock last night. | 0:13:48 | 0:13:52 | |
Gave his name as Smith. | 0:13:52 | 0:13:54 | |
-He's rooming at the Seamen's Hostel in Jarrow. -Have him picked up. | 0:13:54 | 0:13:57 | |
Take him to Domenica Charlton's. | 0:13:57 | 0:13:58 | |
Sir... | 0:13:58 | 0:14:00 | |
Beauty sleep will have to wait. | 0:14:02 | 0:14:05 | |
YAWNING | 0:14:05 | 0:14:07 | |
I rang you earlier on, see if you fancied a pint. | 0:14:07 | 0:14:12 | |
I was out... | 0:14:12 | 0:14:13 | |
With your wife. | 0:14:17 | 0:14:19 | |
Did you have a nice time? | 0:14:24 | 0:14:26 | |
Very. | 0:14:26 | 0:14:28 | |
She keeping all right? | 0:14:29 | 0:14:32 | |
Why don't you ask her? | 0:14:32 | 0:14:34 | |
Hang on... What do you mean "out with your wife"? | 0:14:38 | 0:14:42 | |
Is this something you do regular? | 0:14:42 | 0:14:43 | |
Is that a problem, John? | 0:14:43 | 0:14:45 | |
What did she say about us? | 0:14:46 | 0:14:48 | |
What... you think we talk about you? | 0:14:48 | 0:14:50 | |
Here's our Scotsman. | 0:14:53 | 0:14:55 | |
All I want to say is one thing - you're old enough to be her father. | 0:14:55 | 0:15:00 | |
Mr Smith, is it? Apologies for dragging you out of bed. | 0:15:11 | 0:15:15 | |
-What's this about? -What did you do to your head? | 0:15:15 | 0:15:18 | |
I walked into a wall, why? | 0:15:18 | 0:15:20 | |
-Happens to you a lot, does it? -When I'm steaming, yeah. | 0:15:20 | 0:15:24 | |
Come with me, will you please? | 0:15:24 | 0:15:26 | |
Have a look at this gentleman here, please, Mr Hill, and tell us | 0:15:26 | 0:15:29 | |
if he's the man you saw leaving Domenica's flat last night. | 0:15:29 | 0:15:32 | |
Come close. He won't bite. | 0:15:32 | 0:15:34 | |
No, I don't think so. | 0:15:36 | 0:15:41 | |
Nah, I don't think so. | 0:15:41 | 0:15:42 | |
-Are you short-sighted, Mr Hill? -Blind as a bat, actually. | 0:15:44 | 0:15:47 | |
-Where are your glasses, man? -They're broke. | 0:15:47 | 0:15:50 | |
Did you wear them when you saw the man? | 0:15:52 | 0:15:54 | |
No, man, they're smashed. | 0:15:54 | 0:15:56 | |
Thank you very much, Mr Smith and again, my apologies. | 0:15:58 | 0:16:01 | |
Any sign of that poker? | 0:16:19 | 0:16:20 | |
No, sir. | 0:16:20 | 0:16:22 | |
What we looking for, guv? | 0:16:25 | 0:16:26 | |
A good recent photo of Domenica. | 0:16:26 | 0:16:29 | |
Guv... | 0:16:36 | 0:16:37 | |
Happy as anything, weren't they? | 0:16:43 | 0:16:45 | |
Must be six, seven years ago that... | 0:16:45 | 0:16:47 | |
-Anything? -No... Not yet, sir. | 0:16:47 | 0:16:49 | |
All right... | 0:16:49 | 0:16:50 | |
Thank you. What sort of a place is this? | 0:16:54 | 0:16:56 | |
Used to be a fishing village. Nice little beach this... | 0:16:56 | 0:17:00 | |
been here a few times with my wife and my daughter. | 0:17:00 | 0:17:04 | |
County built the council estate as overflow. | 0:17:07 | 0:17:10 | |
People like the Charltons, they flocked here from Newcastle. | 0:17:10 | 0:17:14 | |
Fresh air and that for the kids, nice little school, plenty of work at the power station | 0:17:16 | 0:17:21 | |
and steel plant | 0:17:21 | 0:17:23 | |
down the coast. | 0:17:23 | 0:17:25 | |
Paradise compared to Byker and Wallsend. | 0:17:25 | 0:17:29 | |
What's going on up there? | 0:17:29 | 0:17:30 | |
There's a camp site. | 0:17:30 | 0:17:32 | |
Gets used a bit in the summer. When we get one. | 0:17:32 | 0:17:36 | |
If they come back at all this year, that is. | 0:17:36 | 0:17:38 | |
There's a little lass fell off the cliff last year while she was playing. | 0:17:38 | 0:17:43 | |
Not good publicity for a holiday destination, is it? | 0:17:43 | 0:17:46 | |
Paradise, you say. | 0:17:47 | 0:17:50 | |
But Domenica left her daughter and went to a life of drugs, alcohol and casual sex. Why's that? | 0:17:50 | 0:17:57 | |
Women are never happy. | 0:17:57 | 0:17:59 | |
I'll just pretend you didn't say that. | 0:18:00 | 0:18:03 | |
Because you can take the people out of the slums, but you can't take the slums out of the people? | 0:18:04 | 0:18:09 | |
Let's ask her husband. | 0:18:13 | 0:18:15 | |
Morning. | 0:18:18 | 0:18:21 | |
How are you feeling today? | 0:18:21 | 0:18:22 | |
Agnes, how are you today? | 0:18:24 | 0:18:25 | |
She's OK, considering. | 0:18:27 | 0:18:29 | |
Agnes, this is Sergeant Bacchus. | 0:18:31 | 0:18:33 | |
That's a funny name. | 0:18:33 | 0:18:35 | |
Yes, well he's a funny bloke. | 0:18:35 | 0:18:37 | |
Hello, Agnes. | 0:18:37 | 0:18:40 | |
In a little while, Agnes, I'm going to ask you to go with this nice lady | 0:18:40 | 0:18:44 | |
for a cup of tea, because I want to speak to your Dad on his own, OK? | 0:18:44 | 0:18:47 | |
Agnes should stay with me, I think. | 0:18:47 | 0:18:49 | |
You said they wouldn't get us on me own. | 0:18:49 | 0:18:51 | |
It's all right, pet. It's me they want to talk to. | 0:18:51 | 0:18:53 | |
I'm not going on me own. | 0:18:53 | 0:18:55 | |
Well. We'll cross that bridge when we get to it, shall we? | 0:18:55 | 0:18:58 | |
For now I want to ask you both when was the last time you saw Domenica? | 0:18:58 | 0:19:03 | |
Er... months ago. I cannot be exact. | 0:19:03 | 0:19:07 | |
Agnes? | 0:19:07 | 0:19:09 | |
Just tell the man, Agnes. It's all right. | 0:19:11 | 0:19:15 | |
She didn't go straight to her Nana's. | 0:19:15 | 0:19:17 | |
I saw her yesterday tea time. | 0:19:17 | 0:19:19 | |
After school I got the bus to Byker and went to see her. | 0:19:19 | 0:19:22 | |
Then what happened? | 0:19:22 | 0:19:24 | |
Well, I fell down and got me skirt muddy so she hit us. | 0:19:24 | 0:19:30 | |
And then? | 0:19:30 | 0:19:31 | |
She give us some juice and she said "I'm busy, go and find your Uncle Darren in the pub | 0:19:31 | 0:19:37 | |
"or go to your Nana's, but tell them not to hit you cos I've already done it", | 0:19:37 | 0:19:42 | |
so I did. | 0:19:42 | 0:19:45 | |
When I spoke to your Uncle Darren last night | 0:19:45 | 0:19:48 | |
he didn't know that you were at your Nana's. | 0:19:48 | 0:19:50 | |
Me Uncle Darren's a drinker, isn't he, Dad? | 0:19:50 | 0:19:53 | |
He says, "Oh, Agnes, I love your mother. | 0:19:53 | 0:19:58 | |
"She's perfect." He's daft. | 0:19:58 | 0:20:02 | |
Agnes, there's nowt to laugh about. | 0:20:02 | 0:20:04 | |
Guv... can I have a word? | 0:20:04 | 0:20:06 | |
Yes... Will you excuse us for a moment? | 0:20:07 | 0:20:10 | |
She was there last night. After the murder, outside the tenement. | 0:20:14 | 0:20:19 | |
She was at her Grandmother's, tucked up in bed. | 0:20:19 | 0:20:21 | |
No, no, sir. I am telling you. | 0:20:21 | 0:20:23 | |
She was there when I arrived. | 0:20:23 | 0:20:24 | |
She spoke to us. She said, "It's in there, Mister." | 0:20:24 | 0:20:27 | |
Get her out of there. | 0:20:27 | 0:20:33 | |
Will you bring Agnes out and sit with her in number two, please? | 0:20:36 | 0:20:39 | |
-You say nothing about anything! -Whoa, get back in there. | 0:20:46 | 0:20:49 | |
Say nothing about what, Agnes? | 0:20:51 | 0:20:55 | |
You won't put him in the gallows, will you? | 0:20:55 | 0:20:58 | |
No, we don't do that any more... | 0:20:58 | 0:21:00 | |
Agnes. | 0:21:02 | 0:21:04 | |
Was your mother alive when you saw her last? | 0:21:04 | 0:21:07 | |
Yes, all right, go on. | 0:21:13 | 0:21:15 | |
Come on, luv. | 0:21:15 | 0:21:17 | |
No wonder she's screwed up. She saw him do it. | 0:21:17 | 0:21:19 | |
Don't LIE! Don't you keep lying! | 0:21:22 | 0:21:26 | |
Just tell me that you lost your temper and I'll believe you! | 0:21:26 | 0:21:29 | |
This isn't right! Your sergeant's a bully. | 0:21:29 | 0:21:31 | |
-Shut up, you. -He should be given a break, something to eat. | 0:21:31 | 0:21:33 | |
A break!? You want a break! | 0:21:33 | 0:21:35 | |
I'll give you a break! | 0:21:35 | 0:21:37 | |
I've a mate down the corridor that brings in a rhino whip every time he talks to blokes who kill women! | 0:21:37 | 0:21:43 | |
-I really object to this! -He's only kidding. | 0:21:43 | 0:21:47 | |
Do I put that bit in about the rhino whip? | 0:21:47 | 0:21:50 | |
-No... -Put that I apologise for my rudeness to... | 0:21:50 | 0:21:55 | |
-what's your name again? -Simmons. | 0:21:55 | 0:21:57 | |
-Sarah Simmons. -Mrs Simmons. | 0:21:57 | 0:21:58 | |
Miss Simmons. | 0:21:58 | 0:22:00 | |
I'm not interested in your marital status, pet. | 0:22:00 | 0:22:03 | |
I'm not asking you out on a date, I'm asking your client to start telling the truth! | 0:22:03 | 0:22:07 | |
John. | 0:22:07 | 0:22:09 | |
May I? | 0:22:09 | 0:22:11 | |
Alan. | 0:22:17 | 0:22:18 | |
You haven't got an alibi. | 0:22:20 | 0:22:22 | |
Your wife abandoned you and your daughter to go and live a debauched life. | 0:22:24 | 0:22:31 | |
Which the court will see as a motive. | 0:22:31 | 0:22:35 | |
And when I spoke to your daughter she said that the last time she saw her mother... she was dead. | 0:22:35 | 0:22:40 | |
So is there something you'd like to get off your chest, Alan? | 0:22:43 | 0:22:46 | |
All right... | 0:22:50 | 0:22:51 | |
Stand up, please, Mr Charlton. | 0:22:54 | 0:22:58 | |
Alan Charlton, I'm charging you with the murder | 0:23:02 | 0:23:06 | |
of your wife, Domenica Charlton on the 5th February just gone. | 0:23:06 | 0:23:11 | |
You do not have to say anything but anything you do say will be taken | 0:23:11 | 0:23:14 | |
down and may be used in evidence against you. Do you understand? | 0:23:14 | 0:23:18 | |
Yes. | 0:23:18 | 0:23:21 | |
Are you really going to make me do this? | 0:23:21 | 0:23:24 | |
Are you going to make me put Agnes in the witness box and let the prosecution loose on her? | 0:23:24 | 0:23:28 | |
-She's only a bairn, man. -It's your choice. | 0:23:28 | 0:23:30 | |
OK. If you won't tell me what happened, Agnes will have to. | 0:23:32 | 0:23:34 | |
Wait. | 0:23:34 | 0:23:36 | |
You do not have to say anything, and I advise you not to. | 0:23:36 | 0:23:38 | |
What about Agnes? | 0:23:38 | 0:23:41 | |
-Can they question her in court? -Yes. | 0:23:41 | 0:23:44 | |
Alan... | 0:23:47 | 0:23:49 | |
Your daughter was at your wife's house last night. I saw her. | 0:23:58 | 0:24:01 | |
I think | 0:24:03 | 0:24:06 | |
you murdered your wife in front of her. | 0:24:06 | 0:24:08 | |
No... | 0:24:08 | 0:24:09 | |
Now your daughter is all screwed up. | 0:24:09 | 0:24:11 | |
She loves you, she wants to protect you, | 0:24:11 | 0:24:16 | |
but she will end up telling us everything. | 0:24:16 | 0:24:18 | |
Everything. So why don't you give her a break, Alan? | 0:24:21 | 0:24:25 | |
SHE SIGHS | 0:24:33 | 0:24:36 | |
You promise you'll leave Agnes out of it? | 0:24:36 | 0:24:40 | |
You make your statement. Then I'll tell you what I will or won't do. | 0:24:40 | 0:24:43 | |
I had warned | 0:24:45 | 0:24:48 | |
Domenica time and again. | 0:24:48 | 0:24:51 | |
I didn't want Agnes hanging around that place if she was going to go on living like that. | 0:24:51 | 0:24:58 | |
She told me | 0:24:58 | 0:25:00 | |
Agnes was none of my business. | 0:25:00 | 0:25:02 | |
What did she mean by that? | 0:25:02 | 0:25:04 | |
Why did she cross out your name and put "Satan"? | 0:25:15 | 0:25:19 | |
Domenica was... | 0:25:27 | 0:25:29 | |
ill, Mr Gently. | 0:25:29 | 0:25:31 | |
She couldn't help herself sometimes. | 0:25:31 | 0:25:33 | |
This was just another way of... | 0:25:33 | 0:25:36 | |
-taunting us. -According to your marriage licence, you and Domenica got married | 0:25:36 | 0:25:43 | |
four months before Agnes was born, yes? | 0:25:43 | 0:25:47 | |
Agnes was an accident. | 0:25:47 | 0:25:50 | |
Domenica didn't want the bairn. | 0:25:51 | 0:25:53 | |
I made her have her. | 0:25:54 | 0:25:56 | |
She never forgave me... | 0:25:57 | 0:25:59 | |
or Agnes. | 0:25:59 | 0:26:01 | |
We "ruined her life" apparently. | 0:26:01 | 0:26:04 | |
So what happened last night, Alan? | 0:26:04 | 0:26:07 | |
I went | 0:26:07 | 0:26:09 | |
looking for Agnes when she didn't come home from school. | 0:26:09 | 0:26:13 | |
I found her with her mam... | 0:26:17 | 0:26:19 | |
and some bloke. | 0:26:19 | 0:26:22 | |
They were both drunk. | 0:26:22 | 0:26:23 | |
-I chased him. -You chased him? | 0:26:23 | 0:26:27 | |
Told him to get lost. | 0:26:27 | 0:26:28 | |
He just went. | 0:26:28 | 0:26:30 | |
-Did he have a Scottish accent? -No. | 0:26:32 | 0:26:34 | |
No, he was local. | 0:26:34 | 0:26:37 | |
-Positive? -Yes, positive. -Did you hit him? -No. | 0:26:37 | 0:26:42 | |
Well, I might have done. | 0:26:43 | 0:26:45 | |
He just ran. | 0:26:45 | 0:26:48 | |
-Then what? -I told Agnes | 0:26:48 | 0:26:50 | |
to go to her Nana's. | 0:26:50 | 0:26:52 | |
I tried | 0:26:52 | 0:26:54 | |
one last time | 0:26:54 | 0:26:57 | |
to reason with Domenica. | 0:26:57 | 0:26:59 | |
She hit us, she spat at us... | 0:26:59 | 0:27:03 | |
I lost my temper. | 0:27:04 | 0:27:06 | |
I had just | 0:27:06 | 0:27:08 | |
-had enough. -Then what? | 0:27:08 | 0:27:10 | |
Then what, Alan? | 0:27:12 | 0:27:14 | |
I killed her. | 0:27:21 | 0:27:23 | |
I killed Domenica. | 0:27:27 | 0:27:29 | |
How? | 0:27:29 | 0:27:32 | |
-With a poker. -Where is it? | 0:27:32 | 0:27:36 | |
Bottom of the North Sea. | 0:27:36 | 0:27:39 | |
Why did you cover her eyes? | 0:27:39 | 0:27:42 | |
I just... | 0:27:42 | 0:27:43 | |
-I don't know why I did that. -No reason? | 0:27:45 | 0:27:50 | |
I don't know. | 0:27:50 | 0:27:52 | |
You do mad things when you're in a state. | 0:27:52 | 0:27:56 | |
They were staring at us. | 0:27:59 | 0:28:02 | |
Yes, staring open, so... | 0:28:02 | 0:28:05 | |
-You'll keep the bargain? -Yes. | 0:28:08 | 0:28:10 | |
Agnes can go home. | 0:28:11 | 0:28:13 | |
Home? | 0:28:13 | 0:28:14 | |
She doesn't have a home now, Mr Gently. | 0:28:17 | 0:28:20 | |
Well, he can cancel the milk for about 15 years, I reckon. | 0:28:23 | 0:28:28 | |
They'll plead provocation, crime of passion, defence brief will | 0:28:28 | 0:28:32 | |
demolish the wife's reputation so he could get away with 12, actually. | 0:28:32 | 0:28:36 | |
-Fancy a drink to celebrate? -No. | 0:28:37 | 0:28:41 | |
What's the matter, guv? | 0:28:41 | 0:28:42 | |
You know what's the matter. The handkerchief. | 0:28:42 | 0:28:46 | |
Somebody put in on her after she died. Why? | 0:28:46 | 0:28:50 | |
Who? | 0:28:50 | 0:28:52 | |
I don't think it was Alan Charlton. | 0:28:52 | 0:28:55 | |
Our blind witness talked about a man with a Scottish accent. | 0:28:55 | 0:29:01 | |
Alan said the man he found with Domenica had a local accent. So which was it? | 0:29:01 | 0:29:05 | |
What difference does it make? | 0:29:05 | 0:29:07 | |
You still don't think Charlton did it, do you? | 0:29:09 | 0:29:13 | |
Too many loose ends. | 0:29:13 | 0:29:14 | |
He had no alibi, he had a motive, he knew what the murder weapon was and he confessed. | 0:29:17 | 0:29:23 | |
What was all that about a rhino whip? | 0:29:28 | 0:29:30 | |
Eh? Oh, no, no, no... | 0:29:30 | 0:29:32 | |
he only does it to frighten them. | 0:29:32 | 0:29:34 | |
I've never seen him use it. | 0:29:34 | 0:29:36 | |
Well, good. Have a nice weekend. | 0:29:36 | 0:29:38 | |
Yeah, you an all, guv... | 0:29:38 | 0:29:40 | |
-Nice motor. -What do you want? | 0:29:45 | 0:29:48 | |
There's no need to be like that. | 0:29:48 | 0:29:50 | |
You are probably the most offensive human being I've ever met. | 0:29:50 | 0:29:53 | |
You just need to get to know us a bit better. | 0:29:53 | 0:29:55 | |
What you doing later? | 0:29:55 | 0:29:59 | |
-Ever heard the word "protocol"? -What protocol? Your client's coughed. | 0:29:59 | 0:30:02 | |
Go on. | 0:30:02 | 0:30:04 | |
A little drink. Mebbes a bite to eat. | 0:30:04 | 0:30:06 | |
-The Goose in Howden. -Howden? -Up near Kielder. | 0:30:08 | 0:30:12 | |
-That's miles away, isn't it? -Well, do you want a drink or don't you? | 0:30:12 | 0:30:15 | |
Yeah, yeah, of course, just | 0:30:15 | 0:30:18 | |
remind me how to, er? | 0:30:18 | 0:30:20 | |
A68 towards Wooler... | 0:30:20 | 0:30:22 | |
..follow the signs for Kielder | 0:30:24 | 0:30:27 | |
then Howden. | 0:30:27 | 0:30:28 | |
And the pub's called The Goose? | 0:30:28 | 0:30:30 | |
The Wild Goose, actually, but you can't miss it. | 0:30:30 | 0:30:33 | |
I'll be there at seven o'clock. | 0:30:33 | 0:30:34 | |
If you're not, I'll be gone at five past. | 0:30:34 | 0:30:36 | |
No, no, no, I'll be there. | 0:30:36 | 0:30:38 | |
"DR WHO" IS ON THE TELEVISION | 0:31:11 | 0:31:13 | |
KNOCK ON DOOR | 0:31:13 | 0:31:16 | |
GENTLY: Evening, Mrs Paige. Could I see Agnes please? | 0:31:18 | 0:31:21 | |
-I told you he'd come. -Of course. -Agnes, just... | 0:31:21 | 0:31:24 | |
I will need to speak to her alone. | 0:31:24 | 0:31:26 | |
-Come in. -Thank you. | 0:31:26 | 0:31:28 | |
He wants to talk to Agnes on her own. | 0:31:28 | 0:31:30 | |
-She's upset, man, she won't know what... -Would you mind, please? | 0:31:30 | 0:31:33 | |
How are you, Agnes? | 0:31:39 | 0:31:40 | |
I'm OK. | 0:31:40 | 0:31:42 | |
There's something I have to ask you. | 0:31:44 | 0:31:46 | |
It's nothing to worry about. | 0:31:46 | 0:31:48 | |
Cos it makes no difference to what will happen to your Dad. | 0:31:48 | 0:31:50 | |
Do you understand? | 0:31:50 | 0:31:52 | |
Were you there when your Dad hit your Mammy? | 0:31:56 | 0:32:00 | |
No. I ran away. | 0:32:00 | 0:32:02 | |
Was there anybody else in the room? | 0:32:03 | 0:32:07 | |
No. | 0:32:07 | 0:32:08 | |
Did you go back in? | 0:32:10 | 0:32:11 | |
Afterwards? | 0:32:11 | 0:32:13 | |
Why, Agnes? | 0:32:16 | 0:32:18 | |
To see her. She was dead. | 0:32:18 | 0:32:23 | |
Did you do anything? | 0:32:28 | 0:32:30 | |
Could you tell me about it? | 0:32:33 | 0:32:35 | |
Her eyes were open. | 0:32:36 | 0:32:38 | |
I put me hankie over her. Like this. | 0:32:38 | 0:32:41 | |
Excuse me. | 0:33:00 | 0:33:03 | |
-Is there a pub round here? -What, here? | 0:33:03 | 0:33:05 | |
Yeah. Here. Is this Howden? | 0:33:05 | 0:33:07 | |
Aye. But there's no pub here. | 0:33:07 | 0:33:09 | |
What pub you looking for? | 0:33:09 | 0:33:12 | |
It's called The Goose... | 0:33:12 | 0:33:14 | |
Or The Wild Goose? | 0:33:14 | 0:33:16 | |
I think somebody was having us on. | 0:33:20 | 0:33:22 | |
Sorry. | 0:33:22 | 0:33:24 | |
The Wild Goose chase...very clever. | 0:33:25 | 0:33:28 | |
In goal, Ronnie Simpson. Right back, Bobby Cowell. | 0:33:34 | 0:33:38 | |
Left back, Ron Batty. | 0:33:38 | 0:33:40 | |
Right half Jimmy Scoular. Outside right, Len White. | 0:33:40 | 0:33:44 | |
It was Agnes. She covered her mother's face. | 0:33:44 | 0:33:48 | |
Poor little lass. | 0:33:50 | 0:33:52 | |
And Outside Left, Bobby Mitchell! | 0:33:52 | 0:33:55 | |
Thank you and goodnight, sensation seekers everywhere. | 0:33:59 | 0:34:03 | |
Used to come here with John. | 0:34:15 | 0:34:17 | |
When we could drag him away from the pub or work. | 0:34:17 | 0:34:21 | |
I feel sorry for him, cos he'll turn round in 15 years | 0:34:23 | 0:34:27 | |
and say, "Oh, Leigh Ann's all grown up and I missed it." | 0:34:27 | 0:34:32 | |
-But he sees her, doesn't he? -Yeah, he has her every other weekend. | 0:34:32 | 0:34:36 | |
But what does he do? | 0:34:36 | 0:34:38 | |
He buys her things. He doesn't know how to do anything with her. | 0:34:38 | 0:34:41 | |
When I go to pick her up she can't wait to leave. | 0:34:43 | 0:34:47 | |
She never mentions him any more. | 0:34:47 | 0:34:50 | |
She's forgetting him. | 0:34:50 | 0:34:52 | |
I don't want her to grow up without a Dad. | 0:34:52 | 0:34:55 | |
-What's that mean? -It means I'm going to ask for a divorce. | 0:34:57 | 0:35:02 | |
And I'm going to find somebody else. | 0:35:04 | 0:35:07 | |
For me and for her. | 0:35:08 | 0:35:10 | |
I shouldn't really. She's never seen her mam smoke. | 0:35:16 | 0:35:19 | |
I'll take her for a paddle. | 0:35:19 | 0:35:21 | |
-Would you? -Yes. | 0:35:21 | 0:35:24 | |
Come on, sweetheart, let's go for a paddle. Come on. | 0:35:24 | 0:35:28 | |
You can bring your bucket. | 0:35:28 | 0:35:30 | |
You don't need your spade. | 0:35:30 | 0:35:32 | |
All right, bring your spade, come on. | 0:35:32 | 0:35:34 | |
Won't be long, Geraint, then we'll go on the beach now, OK? | 0:35:38 | 0:35:41 | |
Cup of tea first, though. | 0:35:41 | 0:35:44 | |
No, straight to the beach. | 0:35:44 | 0:35:46 | |
Isn't that right, Geraint? | 0:35:46 | 0:35:48 | |
Straight to the beach as soon as I park the car. | 0:35:48 | 0:35:51 | |
Geraint? | 0:35:56 | 0:35:57 | |
-Geraint! -Geraint! | 0:35:57 | 0:36:00 | |
-Geraint! -Geraint! | 0:36:00 | 0:36:02 | |
Geraint! | 0:36:02 | 0:36:04 | |
-Geraint! -Geraint! | 0:36:04 | 0:36:06 | |
Geraint! | 0:36:06 | 0:36:08 | |
-What's going on? -I found him on the steps down to the beach. | 0:36:10 | 0:36:13 | |
"Going for a paddle", he said. | 0:36:13 | 0:36:16 | |
See you. Have a nice holiday. | 0:36:16 | 0:36:19 | |
Hey, thanks. | 0:36:19 | 0:36:21 | |
Who was that masked man? | 0:36:24 | 0:36:27 | |
That was The Lone Ranger. | 0:36:27 | 0:36:29 | |
You're supposed to be on holiday. | 0:36:47 | 0:36:50 | |
This is personal. | 0:36:50 | 0:36:51 | |
So what are you trying to do... | 0:36:53 | 0:36:55 | |
-make me look like a fool? -Do you think you need help? | 0:36:55 | 0:36:59 | |
I went round to my in-laws yesterday afternoon. | 0:36:59 | 0:37:01 | |
Have you any idea what that costs me? | 0:37:01 | 0:37:04 | |
Why... did you take a taxi? | 0:37:04 | 0:37:06 | |
I had to grovel. | 0:37:07 | 0:37:09 | |
"Can I please see my daughter?" | 0:37:09 | 0:37:11 | |
"No, you can't, it's the wrong weekend and anyway they're out. | 0:37:11 | 0:37:15 | |
With Mr Gently again. | 0:37:15 | 0:37:18 | |
-Well, as you said, it wasn't your weekend. -OK, what's going on? | 0:37:18 | 0:37:22 | |
There are people | 0:37:23 | 0:37:25 | |
laughing at me. | 0:37:25 | 0:37:28 | |
Who is laughing at you exactly? | 0:37:28 | 0:37:30 | |
-Everybody. -You fancy a cup of tea? | 0:37:30 | 0:37:32 | |
-Get out. -Get out. | 0:37:32 | 0:37:34 | |
I'll tell you what's going on. | 0:37:34 | 0:37:37 | |
Your wife is lonely and confused. | 0:37:37 | 0:37:39 | |
Has been confused. I don't think she is any more. | 0:37:39 | 0:37:42 | |
She just wanted a friendly face to talk to. | 0:37:42 | 0:37:44 | |
You can talk on the phone. | 0:37:44 | 0:37:47 | |
You don't need to take them both on days out. | 0:37:47 | 0:37:50 | |
Hang on. "Has been" | 0:37:50 | 0:37:52 | |
confused. What does that mean? | 0:37:52 | 0:37:54 | |
There are two things not going on between me and your wife. | 0:37:54 | 0:37:58 | |
The first one is so obvious I'm not even going to say it. | 0:37:58 | 0:38:00 | |
-Everybody else is. -The second is that I am not a go-between. | 0:38:00 | 0:38:04 | |
If you want to know what's on your wife's mind, you go and ask her. | 0:38:04 | 0:38:07 | |
You're looking for a smack in the gob, mate. | 0:38:07 | 0:38:10 | |
Sir. There's a two-year-old boy's gone missing from a camp site. | 0:38:10 | 0:38:11 | |
Taylor, this is CID, it's not the Mountain Rescue Team. | 0:38:11 | 0:38:15 | |
Why don't you come back when there's a crime. | 0:38:15 | 0:38:17 | |
How long's he been missing? | 0:38:17 | 0:38:18 | |
-22 hours, sir. -That's too long. | 0:38:18 | 0:38:21 | |
Bring me the details. | 0:38:21 | 0:38:23 | |
OK if I come along, guv? | 0:38:29 | 0:38:31 | |
He's called Robin. According to his folks he's never wandered off before. | 0:38:41 | 0:38:45 | |
Thanks, love. | 0:38:45 | 0:38:47 | |
Robin... Robin... | 0:38:47 | 0:38:51 | |
Robin, where are you? | 0:38:51 | 0:38:55 | |
Robin... | 0:38:55 | 0:38:57 | |
Darren? | 0:39:03 | 0:39:04 | |
Oi! | 0:39:04 | 0:39:06 | |
Hello. Me and me mam moved into Alan's house with Agnes. I heard a little lad's gone missing. | 0:39:08 | 0:39:15 | |
That's just the other side of the camp site, isn't it? | 0:39:15 | 0:39:18 | |
No, no... It's a long way away from the camp site. | 0:39:18 | 0:39:21 | |
How is Agnes? | 0:39:21 | 0:39:23 | |
Just watching the telly with her Nana. | 0:39:23 | 0:39:26 | |
I think I'd better go and make the tea. | 0:39:26 | 0:39:30 | |
Is there anybody in that family that's not totally crackers? | 0:39:34 | 0:39:39 | |
It's going to be dark soon. | 0:39:40 | 0:39:42 | |
I don't like this. | 0:39:44 | 0:39:46 | |
That little boy who went over the cliff last year. How far away? | 0:39:50 | 0:39:54 | |
That was half a mile. It was a little girl. | 0:39:54 | 0:39:56 | |
What killed her? | 0:39:56 | 0:39:58 | |
Injuries sustained in the fall as far as I remember. | 0:39:58 | 0:40:01 | |
You know it was an accident. Kids were playing on the cliff edge and, er... | 0:40:01 | 0:40:05 | |
She fell over. And the kids didn't tell anybody, so they didn't find the body until the next morning. | 0:40:05 | 0:40:12 | |
So the other kids actually saw it happen? | 0:40:12 | 0:40:16 | |
It wasn't my case, guv. | 0:40:16 | 0:40:18 | |
I just think the kids denied being there in case they got into trouble. | 0:40:18 | 0:40:22 | |
So we don't know how she went over? | 0:40:22 | 0:40:24 | |
Who found her? | 0:40:26 | 0:40:28 | |
I don't know... | 0:40:30 | 0:40:32 | |
-Taylor!? -Sir. | 0:40:32 | 0:40:33 | |
Remember that kid that fell over the cliff last year... | 0:40:36 | 0:40:41 | |
-who found her? -Er... | 0:40:41 | 0:40:43 | |
Some bloke passing by. | 0:40:43 | 0:40:44 | |
I took the call myself. | 0:40:44 | 0:40:46 | |
What he was just walking his dog on the beach? | 0:40:46 | 0:40:49 | |
No, he was on his way to work in the steel works. | 0:40:49 | 0:40:52 | |
Five o'clock in the morning. | 0:40:52 | 0:40:54 | |
He's walking to work along the beach? | 0:40:54 | 0:40:56 | |
No, no, he said he was driving along in his car on the top road. | 0:40:56 | 0:41:00 | |
Sir, you can't see the bottom of the cliff from the road. | 0:41:02 | 0:41:06 | |
Get me that man's details and I want the forensic on that dead girl. | 0:41:06 | 0:41:10 | |
On my desk tomorrow morning. Come on. | 0:41:10 | 0:41:13 | |
Mr McManus? | 0:41:29 | 0:41:30 | |
-Aye? -We'd like to talk to you about the death of Laura Gadd last year. Is there somewhere we can go? | 0:41:33 | 0:41:38 | |
Yeah. | 0:41:39 | 0:41:41 | |
So. You stopped the car because you needed a crap and that is why | 0:41:41 | 0:41:48 | |
you went down to the beach and that is where you found the body of little Laura Gadd... | 0:41:48 | 0:41:53 | |
That's right. | 0:41:53 | 0:41:55 | |
Do you expect me to believe that? | 0:41:55 | 0:41:57 | |
There's nothing in your statement about being caught short. | 0:41:57 | 0:42:00 | |
-Well... I was a bit embarrassed, know what I mean? -You were a two minute drive from work... | 0:42:00 | 0:42:04 | |
You couldn't wait two minutes. What? | 0:42:04 | 0:42:07 | |
-Are there no toilets here? -Have you never needed a crap, Sergeant? | 0:42:07 | 0:42:09 | |
I've never needed a crap detector. | 0:42:09 | 0:42:11 | |
Not when it's a pile as big as this. | 0:42:11 | 0:42:14 | |
I understand you were once cautioned for a sexual offence, Mr McManus. | 0:42:14 | 0:42:21 | |
Ten years ago. The girl told me she was over 16. | 0:42:21 | 0:42:24 | |
-How the hell was I supposed to know? -Like them young, do you? | 0:42:24 | 0:42:27 | |
Look, the police believed us or they'd've charged me. | 0:42:27 | 0:42:30 | |
No, no, a caution is a charge. | 0:42:30 | 0:42:34 | |
Do you like little boys as well, Neil? | 0:42:34 | 0:42:37 | |
What's this about? | 0:42:37 | 0:42:39 | |
There's a campsite near the cliff top. Do you know it? | 0:42:39 | 0:42:43 | |
-No. -Never been there? -What's this about? | 0:42:43 | 0:42:46 | |
A little boy went missing from there on Sunday. You must know about that. | 0:42:46 | 0:42:50 | |
-Yeah, I heard about it. -So? | 0:42:50 | 0:42:52 | |
Come on, | 0:42:55 | 0:42:57 | |
you're pulling my leg. | 0:42:57 | 0:42:59 | |
-Where were you Sunday afternoon and evening? -At home. | 0:42:59 | 0:43:03 | |
Alone? | 0:43:03 | 0:43:04 | |
-No, my wife was there. -So your wife could corroborate that? | 0:43:04 | 0:43:08 | |
I was out... | 0:43:12 | 0:43:14 | |
I was out for a drive. On my own. I was just driving around. | 0:43:14 | 0:43:17 | |
Really? | 0:43:17 | 0:43:19 | |
-Anybody vouch for that? -No. -No... | 0:43:19 | 0:43:23 | |
I need you to come down to the station with us, please. | 0:43:23 | 0:43:27 | |
Have his wife brought in. | 0:43:29 | 0:43:31 | |
He was lying though, wasn't he, sir? | 0:43:31 | 0:43:33 | |
-100%. -I love it when Jocks think they're clever. | 0:43:33 | 0:43:37 | |
Excuse me. Is there any corner of mankind that you don't have some kind of problem with, Sergeant? | 0:43:37 | 0:43:43 | |
Rhetorical question, I presume that. | 0:43:43 | 0:43:46 | |
-I just want to dig deeper into Rob Roy's past, OK? -Sir? | 0:43:46 | 0:43:49 | |
-Busy. -There's a bloke called Williams here. | 0:43:49 | 0:43:53 | |
Says some man's been behaving suspiciously with his young lad at the campsite. | 0:43:53 | 0:43:58 | |
And this was definitely Sunday, same day Robin Pershore was taken away? | 0:43:58 | 0:44:02 | |
Yeah, we'd just arrived, see? | 0:44:02 | 0:44:05 | |
We'd left Geraint sitting in the car, only he wandered off the way he does and this chap had his hand. | 0:44:05 | 0:44:13 | |
Leading him away? Or bringing him back? | 0:44:13 | 0:44:16 | |
Well, it's hard to tell, isn't it... | 0:44:16 | 0:44:19 | |
We spotted them and shouted, you see. | 0:44:19 | 0:44:21 | |
Would you recognise this man again? | 0:44:21 | 0:44:23 | |
-Oh, yes. -Can you describe him? | 0:44:23 | 0:44:26 | |
Big fella, fair hair and he had a beard. | 0:44:26 | 0:44:29 | |
-Hello, Agnes. -Hello. | 0:44:40 | 0:44:42 | |
Is your Uncle Darren in? | 0:44:42 | 0:44:44 | |
No. | 0:44:44 | 0:44:46 | |
Do you know where he is? | 0:44:46 | 0:44:48 | |
He's on me Dad's allotment. He's took it over. | 0:44:52 | 0:44:55 | |
Right. Where's that? | 0:44:55 | 0:44:57 | |
Where is it, Agnes? | 0:44:59 | 0:45:01 | |
They tell me you have something more to say. | 0:45:05 | 0:45:07 | |
I was with a lass called Angela. | 0:45:09 | 0:45:11 | |
-On Sunday. -Angela. | 0:45:11 | 0:45:13 | |
That's a nice name. | 0:45:13 | 0:45:16 | |
Tell me about Angela. | 0:45:16 | 0:45:17 | |
She was the wee girl that showed you where I was today. | 0:45:17 | 0:45:20 | |
Very nice. And? | 0:45:20 | 0:45:23 | |
The wife doesn't have to know about this, does she? | 0:45:25 | 0:45:28 | |
-About what? -Angela's married to the next-door neighbour. | 0:45:28 | 0:45:31 | |
Oh dear. | 0:45:31 | 0:45:34 | |
-We have to be careful, obviously. -Obviously. | 0:45:34 | 0:45:37 | |
So we do it in the car. | 0:45:37 | 0:45:39 | |
And that's what you were doing on Sunday afternoon? | 0:45:39 | 0:45:43 | |
Angela. | 0:45:43 | 0:45:44 | |
Yeah. | 0:45:44 | 0:45:46 | |
And she'll tell me the same story? | 0:45:46 | 0:45:49 | |
-If she has to. -She will have to. | 0:45:49 | 0:45:52 | |
So you're not satisfied within the marriage, I take it? | 0:45:53 | 0:45:58 | |
Angela the only woman you're seeing outside the marriage? | 0:46:00 | 0:46:03 | |
-What's that got to...? -Just answer. | 0:46:03 | 0:46:05 | |
Look... | 0:46:05 | 0:46:08 | |
I get it where I can. OK with you? | 0:46:08 | 0:46:10 | |
Perfectly. | 0:46:10 | 0:46:12 | |
Does the name Domenica Charlton mean anything to you? | 0:46:13 | 0:46:16 | |
No. | 0:46:16 | 0:46:18 | |
What? | 0:46:23 | 0:46:26 | |
Is that the tart that was done in by her husband? | 0:46:26 | 0:46:28 | |
Got what was coming to her. | 0:46:29 | 0:46:32 | |
Because? | 0:46:32 | 0:46:34 | |
Shagging other men? | 0:46:34 | 0:46:35 | |
Oh-ho! I'd have done the same if I was him. | 0:46:35 | 0:46:40 | |
I see. But you never knew her? | 0:46:40 | 0:46:42 | |
No. | 0:46:42 | 0:46:45 | |
So, you and Angela. | 0:46:45 | 0:46:47 | |
Angela is married, you said? | 0:46:49 | 0:46:51 | |
Yeah. | 0:46:51 | 0:46:53 | |
Well, let's hope her husband doesn't give her what's coming to her, eh? | 0:46:53 | 0:46:57 | |
You give her a lift to work, I take it? | 0:46:59 | 0:47:01 | |
That's how it all started. | 0:47:01 | 0:47:03 | |
Every so often you find a deserted bit of cliff top, | 0:47:03 | 0:47:06 | |
pull the car over and start the day with a smile. | 0:47:06 | 0:47:10 | |
On the beach? | 0:47:12 | 0:47:15 | |
On the back seat. In a lay-by. | 0:47:15 | 0:47:17 | |
Mr McManus, we've already established that you can't see the beach from the road. | 0:47:17 | 0:47:23 | |
So how come you found the body of Laura Gadd? | 0:47:23 | 0:47:26 | |
Somebody else found it. Came tapping on the car window. | 0:47:30 | 0:47:34 | |
-A man. -Can you describe him? | 0:47:34 | 0:47:36 | |
Heavy-set bloke, fair hair. | 0:47:36 | 0:47:39 | |
Mr Paige can I have a... | 0:47:46 | 0:47:47 | |
Oi! | 0:47:47 | 0:47:49 | |
Get off, get off! Get Off! | 0:47:58 | 0:48:01 | |
Hands behind your back. | 0:48:03 | 0:48:05 | |
There he was at the window. | 0:48:05 | 0:48:06 | |
-I'm trying to get me pants up and Angela's trying to... -All right. | 0:48:06 | 0:48:10 | |
What did he say? | 0:48:10 | 0:48:12 | |
"There's a girl dead on the beach, you better call the police." | 0:48:12 | 0:48:15 | |
-Then what? -Then he ran off. | 0:48:15 | 0:48:17 | |
I went down to the beach and found the wee girl and... | 0:48:17 | 0:48:22 | |
then I phoned the police. | 0:48:22 | 0:48:24 | |
Why didn't you mention this man to the police? | 0:48:24 | 0:48:28 | |
He saw what we we're doing. | 0:48:28 | 0:48:29 | |
I didn't want him saying anything to the police about me and Angela. | 0:48:29 | 0:48:33 | |
Which way did he run? | 0:48:33 | 0:48:35 | |
-Towards High Blyth. -Would you recognise him if you saw him again? | 0:48:35 | 0:48:41 | |
I don't know. It was a year ago. | 0:48:41 | 0:48:44 | |
The windows were all steamed up, you know? | 0:48:44 | 0:48:46 | |
Angela confirmed your alibi. | 0:48:56 | 0:48:58 | |
You're free to go. | 0:48:58 | 0:49:00 | |
If I were you, I'd modify my behaviour in future. | 0:49:00 | 0:49:04 | |
If my granny had handlebars, she'd be a fish. | 0:49:04 | 0:49:06 | |
Yes... | 0:49:08 | 0:49:09 | |
You have no reason not to answer this question truthfully. | 0:49:09 | 0:49:13 | |
Is this the man who tapped on your car window and told you there was a dead girl on the beach a year ago? | 0:49:13 | 0:49:19 | |
That's him right enough. | 0:49:21 | 0:49:23 | |
Good. Nice meeting you. Give my love to Angela. | 0:49:23 | 0:49:27 | |
Mr Williams. | 0:49:27 | 0:49:30 | |
Is this the man who had your son's hand on Sunday? Please be sure. | 0:49:30 | 0:49:35 | |
I'm not sure. | 0:49:40 | 0:49:42 | |
Would you like a closer look? | 0:49:42 | 0:49:44 | |
What were you going to do to my son? | 0:49:53 | 0:49:54 | |
What were you going to do to him?! | 0:49:54 | 0:49:57 | |
-HE WHIMPERS -What were you going to do to him?! | 0:49:57 | 0:49:59 | |
I'll kill him! | 0:49:59 | 0:50:02 | |
What were you going to do to him?! | 0:50:02 | 0:50:03 | |
You were present at the scene of one death - Laura Gadd - a year ago | 0:50:06 | 0:50:11 | |
and one abduction - Robin Pershore - on Sunday! This is no coincidence! | 0:50:11 | 0:50:16 | |
Where is he, Darren? | 0:50:16 | 0:50:17 | |
You tell me what you've done with Robin Pershore! | 0:50:17 | 0:50:22 | |
You tell me or I swear | 0:50:24 | 0:50:27 | |
I will beat it out of you! | 0:50:27 | 0:50:29 | |
-Don't let him hit us, please. -I wouldn't dream of stopping him. | 0:50:33 | 0:50:37 | |
HE SCREAMS AND WHIMPERS | 0:50:37 | 0:50:40 | |
Tell us! | 0:50:40 | 0:50:41 | |
Tell me! | 0:50:41 | 0:50:43 | |
-Tell me! -He's in the shed! | 0:50:45 | 0:50:48 | |
He's in the shed. | 0:50:48 | 0:50:51 | |
Oh, God! The shed, I didn't look. | 0:50:51 | 0:50:54 | |
SIREN WAILS | 0:51:06 | 0:51:09 | |
Come on. There we go. | 0:51:15 | 0:51:17 | |
There you go. They'll take you home to Mummy. Go on. | 0:51:17 | 0:51:20 | |
There's food and drink in there and all. Looks like he's been well cared for. | 0:51:26 | 0:51:30 | |
Good. | 0:51:30 | 0:51:31 | |
Darren Paige, I'm charging you with abduction and false imprisonment. | 0:51:34 | 0:51:39 | |
You do not have to say anything, but anything you do say will be taken down | 0:51:39 | 0:51:43 | |
and may be used in evidence against you. | 0:51:43 | 0:51:45 | |
You'll also have to answer questions about the death of Laura Gadd. | 0:51:45 | 0:51:48 | |
Did you push her off the cliff, Darren? | 0:51:50 | 0:51:53 | |
Huh? | 0:51:53 | 0:51:54 | |
Huh? No? | 0:51:55 | 0:51:57 | |
How did you know her body was there then? | 0:51:57 | 0:51:59 | |
Look... | 0:51:59 | 0:52:00 | |
..you want to do it the easy way this time, Darren, or the hard way? | 0:52:02 | 0:52:06 | |
-Hard way then. -No, please. | 0:52:07 | 0:52:10 | |
I'll leave you to it, John. | 0:52:10 | 0:52:12 | |
My sergeant's less inhibited when I'm not here. | 0:52:12 | 0:52:14 | |
-How did you know her body was on the beach? -I'll come back in half an hour, John? | 0:52:14 | 0:52:18 | |
-HE SCREAMS -Agnes! Agnes told me! | 0:52:18 | 0:52:21 | |
Agnes told you? | 0:52:21 | 0:52:23 | |
Don't be pathetic, man. | 0:52:23 | 0:52:25 | |
He's lying, guv. | 0:52:27 | 0:52:29 | |
Any idea where I can find her? | 0:52:34 | 0:52:36 | |
All she said was she was going out to play. | 0:52:36 | 0:52:39 | |
You could try the campsite. | 0:52:39 | 0:52:42 | |
Where are the kids? | 0:52:53 | 0:52:54 | |
-DISTANT VOICES SING -# The farmer's in his den | 0:52:56 | 0:52:58 | |
# Ee aye addio | 0:52:58 | 0:53:00 | |
# The farmer's in his den. | 0:53:00 | 0:53:02 | |
# The farmer wants a wife | 0:53:02 | 0:53:04 | |
# The farmer wants a wife | 0:53:04 | 0:53:06 | |
# Ee aye addio | 0:53:06 | 0:53:08 | |
# The farmer wants a wife. # | 0:53:08 | 0:53:10 | |
You have to pick me, it's my game. | 0:53:13 | 0:53:16 | |
# The wife wants a bairn | 0:53:19 | 0:53:21 | |
# The wife wants a bairn | 0:53:21 | 0:53:24 | |
# Ee aye addio | 0:53:24 | 0:53:26 | |
# The wife wants a bairn. # | 0:53:26 | 0:53:28 | |
Agnes? | 0:53:35 | 0:53:37 | |
What's funny, Agnes? | 0:53:43 | 0:53:45 | |
Yous. | 0:53:45 | 0:53:47 | |
Yous think you can see us. | 0:53:47 | 0:53:49 | |
I know you cannot. | 0:53:49 | 0:53:51 | |
Maybe he wasn't lying. | 0:53:53 | 0:53:55 | |
Tell the Press Office I want nothing leaked about this. She must have anonymity. | 0:53:59 | 0:54:04 | |
The papers'll have her name before the day's out. Somebody here will tell somebody something. | 0:54:04 | 0:54:09 | |
John, this is a case like any other. | 0:54:09 | 0:54:12 | |
Not any more, it isn't. | 0:54:12 | 0:54:13 | |
She's been given a solicitor. | 0:54:15 | 0:54:17 | |
Oh, you're joking! | 0:54:19 | 0:54:21 | |
You think I asked for it? Her dad asked me to take this on. | 0:54:22 | 0:54:25 | |
-Great. -Sort yourselves out. | 0:54:25 | 0:54:27 | |
OK, look. It was a childish prank. I apologise. | 0:54:31 | 0:54:35 | |
No hard feelings? | 0:54:35 | 0:54:37 | |
Apologise to her. | 0:54:39 | 0:54:40 | |
I apologise. | 0:54:43 | 0:54:44 | |
Good. | 0:54:45 | 0:54:46 | |
We have reason to suspect that Agnes may have been involved in the death of Laura Gadd | 0:54:46 | 0:54:51 | |
who disappeared from a campsite near her home. | 0:54:51 | 0:54:54 | |
-Her uncle is lying to save his own neck. -Possibly, | 0:54:54 | 0:54:57 | |
-but I have to question Agnes just like I would any other suspect. -She says she knows nothing, | 0:54:57 | 0:55:02 | |
but I think she's being loyal to her uncle. She's a child. | 0:55:02 | 0:55:05 | |
If you'd been at that campsite, and seen the look on her face as she singled out this little lad... | 0:55:05 | 0:55:13 | |
-There is such a thing as evil. -Evil? | 0:55:13 | 0:55:16 | |
-Is this the line your questioning's going to take? -No, it isn't. | 0:55:16 | 0:55:19 | |
I don't believe in evil people, but I do believe in evil actions. | 0:55:19 | 0:55:23 | |
I feel there's a lot we don't know about Agnes. She's clearly disturbed. | 0:55:23 | 0:55:27 | |
-Then she should be in a psychiatric unit, not a police station. -Maybe. | 0:55:27 | 0:55:30 | |
Right now I have to decide if she's a killer. | 0:55:30 | 0:55:34 | |
-How are they treating you at the children's home, Agnes? -They're horrible. | 0:55:40 | 0:55:45 | |
All you get is, "How do you feel? How do you feel?" They're like the Daleks. | 0:55:45 | 0:55:50 | |
And how do you feel, Agnes? | 0:55:50 | 0:55:52 | |
What am I getting wrong for? Just for playing The Farmer's In His Den? | 0:55:52 | 0:55:55 | |
How is it you were able to tell your Uncle Darren about Laura Gadd's body being on the beach, Agnes? | 0:55:55 | 0:56:01 | |
I didn't. Why's he saying that? | 0:56:01 | 0:56:03 | |
Now why do you think he might say that if it wasn't true? | 0:56:03 | 0:56:07 | |
I don't want to get me Uncle Darren in trouble. | 0:56:09 | 0:56:12 | |
-It's all right. -You must tell us the truth, Agnes. | 0:56:12 | 0:56:14 | |
Did you tell Uncle Darren where to find Laura Gadd's body? | 0:56:14 | 0:56:19 | |
I don't even know who she is. | 0:56:19 | 0:56:20 | |
You do know who she is, Agnes. | 0:56:21 | 0:56:23 | |
-How did you know her body was there? -I don't know what you're talking about, man. | 0:56:23 | 0:56:27 | |
She fell off the cliff playing Blind Man's Buff, anyway. | 0:56:27 | 0:56:30 | |
-How do you know that? -It was in the Chronicle. | 0:56:30 | 0:56:33 | |
Where were you three days ago, Agnes, when little Robin Pershore was taken away from the campsite? | 0:56:33 | 0:56:38 | |
You don't have to answer that, Agnes, if you don't want to. | 0:56:38 | 0:56:41 | |
-I thought we were here to talk about what happened to Laura Gadd. -Yes, we are. | 0:56:41 | 0:56:46 | |
-And the abduction of Robin Pershore. -Why have you got a funny name? | 0:56:46 | 0:56:49 | |
Never mind that! Where were you on Sunday? | 0:56:49 | 0:56:52 | |
If you have bairns, they'll get the funny name. | 0:56:52 | 0:56:54 | |
-Barney and Beryl Bacchus. -Just answer the question, please, Agnes. | 0:56:54 | 0:56:58 | |
They'll get laughed at. It'll be your fault. | 0:56:58 | 0:57:00 | |
-Have you got a bairn? I bet you cannot see her! -Why don't you just shut your face, Agnes?! | 0:57:00 | 0:57:06 | |
OK. | 0:57:06 | 0:57:07 | |
-Is this your client refusing to answer questions, is it? -Go and get a cup of tea, John. | 0:57:10 | 0:57:14 | |
-Guv. -Go and get a cup of tea. | 0:57:14 | 0:57:16 | |
-Hello there. Would I be speaking to Domenica? -Domenica? | 0:57:42 | 0:57:46 | |
-Domenica's dead. -I'm so sorry. How embarrassing. | 0:57:46 | 0:57:50 | |
That's local bureaucracy for you. | 0:57:50 | 0:57:52 | |
-Sorry, you would be? -Her mother. | 0:57:52 | 0:57:55 | |
Right. My name's David Cohen, I'm with the Children's Department. | 0:57:55 | 0:57:59 | |
I've been sent here to speak with you for a few minutes. | 0:57:59 | 0:58:02 | |
It's about a...young relation of yours, I believe. | 0:58:02 | 0:58:07 | |
Your grand-daughter, possibly? | 0:58:07 | 0:58:09 | |
Agnes? | 0:58:09 | 0:58:11 | |
Agnes. Yes, that's right. Agnes. | 0:58:11 | 0:58:14 | |
-You better come in. -Thank you. | 0:58:14 | 0:58:16 | |
So Agnes's dad murdered her mother? | 0:58:17 | 0:58:20 | |
Wow. | 0:58:20 | 0:58:22 | |
Yes, I think it's starting to ring a bell, actually. | 0:58:23 | 0:58:28 | |
Did nobody tell you this? | 0:58:28 | 0:58:30 | |
Would you believe that? No. My first day on a new job, a stranger to the region, and they tell me nothing. | 0:58:30 | 0:58:35 | |
In at the deep end. You don't mind if I take notes do you, Mrs Paige? | 0:58:35 | 0:58:39 | |
I want to keep myself straight. | 0:58:39 | 0:58:40 | |
-Surely to God they put it in the notes. -Yes, you'd think so, wouldn't you? | 0:58:40 | 0:58:46 | |
No. | 0:58:50 | 0:58:52 | |
HE TUTS | 0:58:52 | 0:58:54 | |
Shocking. | 0:58:54 | 0:58:56 | |
How am I expected to be Agnes's case worker if they don't give me all the facts? | 0:58:56 | 0:59:01 | |
-Case worker? -Did I not say? I'm in charge of Agnes's welfare while she's in care. | 0:59:01 | 0:59:06 | |
Agnes says you're lying, Darren. | 0:59:08 | 0:59:10 | |
She also says you're daft and you're a drinker | 0:59:10 | 0:59:14 | |
and you told her that you loved her mother, your own sister. | 0:59:14 | 0:59:17 | |
Do you think you're a normal person, Darren? | 0:59:17 | 0:59:20 | |
I didn't mean to get Agnes in trouble. | 0:59:20 | 0:59:22 | |
Well, you have. She's in care | 0:59:22 | 0:59:24 | |
and she'll have half of Fleet Street trying to find out her name and address by now. All because of you. | 0:59:24 | 0:59:29 | |
Oh, look. Waterworks again. | 0:59:31 | 0:59:33 | |
Are you a lass, really, Darren? | 0:59:35 | 0:59:37 | |
Or a bit of a queer bloke? What did you say you did to Laura Gadd before you pushed her? | 0:59:37 | 0:59:41 | |
I didn't do anything to anybody. | 0:59:41 | 0:59:43 | |
So you're sticking to your story that it was Agnes who told you where the body was? | 0:59:43 | 0:59:50 | |
What about Geraint Williams then? | 0:59:51 | 0:59:54 | |
I found him with Agnes. She was just taking him for a walk, she said. | 0:59:54 | 0:59:59 | |
And tell me, Mrs. Paige, what do the neighbours think of all this? | 0:59:59 | 1:00:03 | |
A 13-year-old girl being questioned over the death of a toddler. | 1:00:03 | 1:00:06 | |
-Are they being hostile? -What did you say your name was again? | 1:00:06 | 1:00:10 | |
Mrs Paige, would you say that | 1:00:10 | 1:00:12 | |
what happened to your daughter Domenica was...evil? | 1:00:12 | 1:00:16 | |
Yes. | 1:00:16 | 1:00:18 | |
And would you say that where evil exists, it can sometimes | 1:00:19 | 1:00:24 | |
maybe be...passed on? | 1:00:24 | 1:00:26 | |
I would. | 1:00:30 | 1:00:32 | |
From a father to a child, perhaps? | 1:00:32 | 1:00:35 | |
There's an evil seed. | 1:00:36 | 1:00:38 | |
I'm sorry, I didn't quite catch that. | 1:00:41 | 1:00:43 | |
An evil seed. There's such a thing as an evil seed. | 1:00:46 | 1:00:50 | |
(An evil seed.) | 1:00:52 | 1:00:54 | |
Sorry I lost me temper with Agnes, OK? | 1:00:56 | 1:00:59 | |
-You can't bring that stuff into work, John. -Yes, yes, I know. | 1:00:59 | 1:01:03 | |
I've said I'm sorry. | 1:01:03 | 1:01:04 | |
One of them is lying, sir. | 1:01:04 | 1:01:06 | |
Agnes has a history of covering up for the men in her family, yes, | 1:01:08 | 1:01:11 | |
but...I think it's Darren, | 1:01:11 | 1:01:13 | |
I do. And I think that you should let me have half an hour on me own with him. | 1:01:14 | 1:01:19 | |
Sir? Miss Simmons wants to take Agnes back to the children's home. Is that OK? | 1:01:19 | 1:01:23 | |
No. Tell Sarah I want another hour with Agnes. | 1:01:23 | 1:01:27 | |
-I need to question her about her mother's murder. -OK, sir. | 1:01:27 | 1:01:31 | |
"Sarah," is it? Why not ask her out on a date while you're about it? | 1:01:32 | 1:01:36 | |
Maybe because I'm not an idiot like you are. | 1:01:37 | 1:01:39 | |
Why are we going back to the murder of the mother? | 1:01:41 | 1:01:45 | |
I'll take the lead this time. You keep quiet. | 1:01:45 | 1:01:49 | |
Did the canteen send you something nice for your tea, Agnes? | 1:01:49 | 1:01:52 | |
-She didn't eat. -Why was that? | 1:01:52 | 1:01:54 | |
-How could I eat with her looking at us? -Who? | 1:01:54 | 1:01:57 | |
Her. Anybody. | 1:01:57 | 1:02:00 | |
You don't like people watching you eat? Why's that? | 1:02:00 | 1:02:02 | |
Because they're not supposed to see you. | 1:02:02 | 1:02:05 | |
Why not? Why must nobody see you? | 1:02:05 | 1:02:09 | |
Why is he staring at us all the time? | 1:02:09 | 1:02:11 | |
You think I'm horrible, don't you, Mr Funny Name? | 1:02:11 | 1:02:15 | |
You think I killed a little girl. Why does he not say summat? | 1:02:15 | 1:02:19 | |
-Look, this is not helping. -I didn't kill anybody, I was just playing. | 1:02:19 | 1:02:22 | |
When was this, Agnes? | 1:02:22 | 1:02:24 | |
When are we talking about? | 1:02:24 | 1:02:26 | |
Playing when? Playing what? | 1:02:27 | 1:02:29 | |
Why do you have to ask me so many questions? | 1:02:29 | 1:02:31 | |
Because I'm a police officer investigating a murder. | 1:02:31 | 1:02:34 | |
-Go and get Taylor. -What? | 1:02:34 | 1:02:37 | |
Just do it. | 1:02:37 | 1:02:38 | |
Could you tell us exactly what you saw and did the night your mum died? | 1:02:45 | 1:02:49 | |
-No. -Why not? | 1:02:49 | 1:02:51 | |
-Cos I was never there. -Well, yes, you were there, Agnes, | 1:02:53 | 1:02:56 | |
cos you've already told us that. | 1:02:56 | 1:02:58 | |
I went to get Uncle Darren out the pub. | 1:02:59 | 1:03:01 | |
We went to me nana's and I went straight to bed. | 1:03:01 | 1:03:03 | |
No, you didn't. Your Uncle Darren didn't know you were there. | 1:03:03 | 1:03:07 | |
That's what he says. He tells lies. | 1:03:07 | 1:03:10 | |
Agnes, it is very important | 1:03:10 | 1:03:13 | |
that you tell us what happened when your dad arrived and found you there. | 1:03:13 | 1:03:17 | |
-Nothing. -I know he's told you not to say anything, but he's wrong. | 1:03:17 | 1:03:22 | |
There was somebody else there, wasn't there? A man. | 1:03:24 | 1:03:27 | |
-Was it somebody you knew? -You don't have to answer, Agnes. | 1:03:29 | 1:03:33 | |
Why did you go back and cover your mum's eyes with a hankie? | 1:03:33 | 1:03:38 | |
I think he's the evil monster what's got X-ray eyes. | 1:03:41 | 1:03:44 | |
Are you off Doctor Who with them eyes? | 1:03:45 | 1:03:47 | |
-You've had your hour. -Taylor. | 1:03:47 | 1:03:49 | |
The newspaper accounts of Laura Gadd's death. | 1:03:49 | 1:03:53 | |
Could Agnes have read an account of Laura | 1:03:53 | 1:03:55 | |
and the other kids from the campsite paying Blind Man's Buff on the cliff? | 1:03:55 | 1:04:00 | |
Yes. That was in the papers, sir. | 1:04:00 | 1:04:02 | |
-See? -Why? | 1:04:02 | 1:04:04 | |
-Why what, sir? -Why were those things in the papers? | 1:04:04 | 1:04:07 | |
I thought you said the kids refused to say anything for fear of getting into trouble? | 1:04:07 | 1:04:12 | |
-Yes, you're right. -So why do you say that Laura Gadd was playing Blind Man's Buff? | 1:04:12 | 1:04:17 | |
It was obvious, cos of the blindfold, sir. | 1:04:17 | 1:04:19 | |
Tell me that again? | 1:04:22 | 1:04:24 | |
Why else would she have had a blindfold on? | 1:04:24 | 1:04:27 | |
Laura Gadd was found dead wearing a blindfold? | 1:04:29 | 1:04:33 | |
Yes, sir. | 1:04:33 | 1:04:35 | |
-Why did you go back into your mum's room and cover her eyes? -Time's up. | 1:04:35 | 1:04:41 | |
Thank you. | 1:04:47 | 1:04:49 | |
This is probably against some Home Office rule somewhere, | 1:04:49 | 1:04:52 | |
but thank you for meeting me. | 1:04:52 | 1:04:54 | |
So what is it that you want to say to me? | 1:04:54 | 1:04:57 | |
Look, Sarah. | 1:04:57 | 1:04:58 | |
Something has happened to this girl. | 1:05:00 | 1:05:03 | |
I thought at first it was the murder of her mother, | 1:05:03 | 1:05:06 | |
but the death of Laura Gadd predates that by a year. | 1:05:06 | 1:05:10 | |
But you can't prove any connection between Agnes and Laura Gadd. | 1:05:10 | 1:05:13 | |
No proof yet, but compelling evidence. | 1:05:13 | 1:05:17 | |
So what I wanted to say was this - | 1:05:19 | 1:05:22 | |
if it does come to criminal charges, I will do anything in my power | 1:05:22 | 1:05:27 | |
to help her through this ordeal. | 1:05:27 | 1:05:30 | |
You're a decent man, George. | 1:05:30 | 1:05:32 | |
If and when I do have to charge her, they'll be a lot of press interest | 1:05:32 | 1:05:36 | |
so I'll try to put a ring of steel around her and her family. | 1:05:36 | 1:05:40 | |
I will also urge the court not to name her unless she's found guilty. | 1:05:41 | 1:05:47 | |
Sorry. You'll get it back in a second. | 1:05:47 | 1:05:49 | |
Too late. | 1:05:52 | 1:05:53 | |
"13-year-old Agnes Charlton." | 1:05:53 | 1:05:56 | |
They've even identified the care home. | 1:06:00 | 1:06:02 | |
-Inspector... Inspector... Has she been charged yet? -No comment! | 1:06:10 | 1:06:15 | |
Has she been charged yet? Any information at all? | 1:06:15 | 1:06:18 | |
Sir, where have you been? I've been... | 1:06:19 | 1:06:21 | |
Have you seen this? | 1:06:23 | 1:06:24 | |
I will ask you this just once and I will believe your answer. Was this you? | 1:06:24 | 1:06:28 | |
-No. -Do you know who it was? -No, I don't. -Good. | 1:06:29 | 1:06:32 | |
Agnes has been moved to a new place, and I've got uniformed men outside the house in High Blyth. | 1:06:35 | 1:06:41 | |
What are we doing now, charging her or not? | 1:06:41 | 1:06:43 | |
-Have you examined Agnes's school and medical records? -Yes. | 1:06:43 | 1:06:46 | |
Did you find anything? | 1:06:46 | 1:06:48 | |
A few broken bones, and she bunks off school sometimes. | 1:06:48 | 1:06:51 | |
-Nothing else? -No. | 1:06:51 | 1:06:52 | |
Is your heart in this? I don't think it is. | 1:06:52 | 1:06:55 | |
-Have you talked to anybody? -Guv, I'm a copper, not a social worker! | 1:06:55 | 1:06:59 | |
Do I look like a lass with a degree in making tea? | 1:06:59 | 1:07:02 | |
This is not our job. What? | 1:07:02 | 1:07:05 | |
Sir, Darren Paige would like to talk to you. | 1:07:05 | 1:07:08 | |
I take back what I said about Agnes. | 1:07:11 | 1:07:14 | |
You were right. I was pathetic. | 1:07:16 | 1:07:18 | |
I did it. | 1:07:20 | 1:07:22 | |
I took both those little lads away. | 1:07:22 | 1:07:26 | |
Agnes had nothing to do with it. | 1:07:26 | 1:07:27 | |
I killed that little lass and all. | 1:07:30 | 1:07:33 | |
Tell me how you left Laura Gadd. | 1:07:34 | 1:07:36 | |
-What? -Tell me how you left her. | 1:07:36 | 1:07:39 | |
Did you do anything unusual? | 1:07:39 | 1:07:41 | |
Did you leave anything on her? | 1:07:41 | 1:07:43 | |
Erm... | 1:07:46 | 1:07:47 | |
I'm sick of lies. | 1:07:58 | 1:08:01 | |
Do you have any comments for us, sir? | 1:08:09 | 1:08:11 | |
I've no comment for you. | 1:08:11 | 1:08:13 | |
Chief Inspector, has the child been charged? | 1:08:13 | 1:08:16 | |
What's the evil seed, Mrs Paige? | 1:08:16 | 1:08:18 | |
Or who? | 1:08:20 | 1:08:21 | |
I never said that. | 1:08:22 | 1:08:23 | |
That liar from the paper made it all up. | 1:08:23 | 1:08:26 | |
-Do you believe there is evil in human beings? -Some. | 1:08:27 | 1:08:32 | |
Do you think Agnes is evil? | 1:08:32 | 1:08:35 | |
HE SIGHS | 1:08:38 | 1:08:40 | |
We are trying to help Agnes, Mrs Paige, I promise you that. | 1:08:40 | 1:08:45 | |
But I need to know the truth. | 1:08:45 | 1:08:47 | |
Help me to help her. | 1:08:47 | 1:08:50 | |
HE SIGHS | 1:08:55 | 1:08:57 | |
We either charge her, guv, or we let her go home. | 1:09:02 | 1:09:05 | |
If she's innocent, if her behaviour is all about the family she came from | 1:09:05 | 1:09:09 | |
charging her with murder would just be one more act of abuse. | 1:09:09 | 1:09:12 | |
She'll never recover. | 1:09:12 | 1:09:14 | |
This is a child, John. | 1:09:14 | 1:09:16 | |
Yes. A child who has killed a little kid and abducted another one | 1:09:16 | 1:09:20 | |
and was out choosing a third by the time we got hold of her. | 1:09:20 | 1:09:24 | |
She needs to be taken out of society | 1:09:24 | 1:09:27 | |
and society is relying on us to do that - me and you. | 1:09:27 | 1:09:30 | |
Not Sarah Simmons. She gets paid to get people off whether they've done it or not. | 1:09:30 | 1:09:35 | |
-We get paid to get it right. -And what is "getting it right" in a case like this? | 1:09:35 | 1:09:39 | |
She'll do it again. | 1:09:44 | 1:09:45 | |
If a dog savages your baby in a pram you don't say, "Oh, never mind, it's only a little puppy," do you?! | 1:09:45 | 1:09:51 | |
No, you don't! You get it put down! | 1:09:51 | 1:09:54 | |
I didn't mean that literally. | 1:09:56 | 1:09:58 | |
Do you remember taking a little boy for a walk on the campsite last week? | 1:09:58 | 1:10:03 | |
I wasn't on the campsite last week. | 1:10:03 | 1:10:06 | |
Or any week. I've never been on the campsite. | 1:10:06 | 1:10:09 | |
Why would I even go on the campsite when I haven't got a tent? | 1:10:09 | 1:10:13 | |
You were on the campsite when we found you, Agnes. | 1:10:13 | 1:10:15 | |
That was the first time ever! | 1:10:15 | 1:10:17 | |
So it wasn't you who took a little boy called Geraint for a walk? | 1:10:17 | 1:10:22 | |
Geray-ant? Is he the Jolly Giant? | 1:10:22 | 1:10:25 | |
Everyone's got stupid, funny names these days. | 1:10:25 | 1:10:28 | |
-Answer my question, please. -I was never on the campsite, | 1:10:28 | 1:10:33 | |
so how could I take a Jolly Giant for a walk? | 1:10:33 | 1:10:37 | |
Well, your Uncle Darren says you did and I believe him. | 1:10:37 | 1:10:42 | |
I also believe that you took Robin Pershore later the same day. | 1:10:44 | 1:10:49 | |
Did you? | 1:10:51 | 1:10:52 | |
Why, Agnes? | 1:11:06 | 1:11:08 | |
Tell us why. | 1:11:08 | 1:11:11 | |
Help me to understand. | 1:11:12 | 1:11:14 | |
I just wanted them kiddies to know what it's like, sir. | 1:11:17 | 1:11:20 | |
What what's like, Agnes? | 1:11:23 | 1:11:24 | |
What it's like when no-one can see you any more. | 1:11:26 | 1:11:29 | |
When you don't exist, really. | 1:11:29 | 1:11:31 | |
Will you stand up for me please, Agnes? | 1:11:47 | 1:11:49 | |
Agnes Charlton, I am charging you with murder | 1:11:57 | 1:12:01 | |
and with two counts of abduction. | 1:12:01 | 1:12:05 | |
You do not have to say anything, | 1:12:05 | 1:12:07 | |
but anything that you do say will be taken down | 1:12:07 | 1:12:10 | |
and may be used in evidence against you. | 1:12:10 | 1:12:13 | |
Do you understand? | 1:12:14 | 1:12:16 | |
Does it mean I can go home now? | 1:12:19 | 1:12:21 | |
All this is all going to be about now is punishment. | 1:12:26 | 1:12:29 | |
That doesn't make sense. | 1:12:29 | 1:12:31 | |
I'm a policeman. | 1:12:31 | 1:12:33 | |
Before that, I was a soldier. | 1:12:33 | 1:12:35 | |
All I've ever known is a world | 1:12:35 | 1:12:37 | |
-where people are held responsible for their actions. -Even children? | 1:12:37 | 1:12:41 | |
How can it be otherwise? | 1:12:41 | 1:12:42 | |
And that little girl that she killed. And all the others that she would | 1:12:43 | 1:12:47 | |
have killed - there has to be justice for them and their families. | 1:12:47 | 1:12:51 | |
-Through retribution. -Through retribution, yeah. | 1:12:51 | 1:12:54 | |
Society doesn't have any other way. | 1:12:54 | 1:12:56 | |
-Well, that won't give them peace of mind, George. -What will? | 1:12:59 | 1:13:02 | |
Understanding. | 1:13:02 | 1:13:04 | |
An explanation. | 1:13:04 | 1:13:06 | |
There already is an explanation if the papers are to be believed. | 1:13:06 | 1:13:10 | |
Yeah. Some babies are just born evil. | 1:13:10 | 1:13:13 | |
What would you have me do? | 1:13:13 | 1:13:15 | |
You're a critic of the system you work in, George, | 1:13:16 | 1:13:19 | |
but you belong to it in the end. | 1:13:19 | 1:13:20 | |
So do I. | 1:13:20 | 1:13:22 | |
Because now I have to walk her through some mindless process which | 1:13:24 | 1:13:27 | |
has absolutely no interest at all in the truth about Agnes Charlton. | 1:13:27 | 1:13:32 | |
She settle down? | 1:13:50 | 1:13:51 | |
Eventually, sir. | 1:13:51 | 1:13:53 | |
Look, guv, I'm sorry. | 1:14:25 | 1:14:27 | |
I know we haven't seen eye to eye on this one, but... | 1:14:27 | 1:14:30 | |
..I do think it was the right result. | 1:14:31 | 1:14:35 | |
We did our job. | 1:14:35 | 1:14:37 | |
Why don't you go home? | 1:14:44 | 1:14:47 | |
Why? There's no-one there. | 1:14:47 | 1:14:49 | |
All over between you and Lisa, John? | 1:14:55 | 1:14:57 | |
Bar the shouting, yeah. | 1:14:59 | 1:15:01 | |
I phoned earlier on | 1:15:07 | 1:15:10 | |
to say goodnight to Leigh Ann and... | 1:15:10 | 1:15:13 | |
..she was busy. | 1:15:15 | 1:15:16 | |
Watching telly. | 1:15:18 | 1:15:19 | |
I'm sorry. | 1:15:19 | 1:15:22 | |
Could have been her, you know, guv. | 1:15:24 | 1:15:27 | |
It could have been Leigh Ann next going for a walk with Agnes. | 1:15:27 | 1:15:30 | |
I kept thinking about that. | 1:15:31 | 1:15:33 | |
You broke your promise. | 1:15:36 | 1:15:39 | |
You said Agnes would never be in a courtroom. | 1:15:39 | 1:15:42 | |
She won't be going into a witness box, | 1:15:42 | 1:15:44 | |
because I believe she'll plead guilty. | 1:15:44 | 1:15:47 | |
And yet, we need to tell her story, don't we? | 1:15:49 | 1:15:52 | |
She didn't kill anybody. | 1:15:53 | 1:15:55 | |
Well, yes, she did, Alan. | 1:15:55 | 1:15:58 | |
She blindfolded Laura Gadd and pushed her off a cliff. | 1:15:58 | 1:16:01 | |
Why? | 1:16:04 | 1:16:06 | |
What turned your daughter into a killer? | 1:16:06 | 1:16:09 | |
A year before you murdered her mother? | 1:16:11 | 1:16:15 | |
Let's start at the beginning, shall we? | 1:16:15 | 1:16:18 | |
You're not Agnes's father, are you? | 1:16:18 | 1:16:20 | |
She never admitted who the father was. | 1:16:22 | 1:16:25 | |
I wanted to marry her anyway. | 1:16:27 | 1:16:29 | |
I didn't care she was carrying another man's bairn. | 1:16:30 | 1:16:33 | |
Who was her father? | 1:16:34 | 1:16:36 | |
Do you know? Who was "Satan"? | 1:16:36 | 1:16:39 | |
Was Domenica a prostitute, Alan? | 1:16:42 | 1:16:44 | |
-No. -But she saw a lot of men. | 1:16:45 | 1:16:48 | |
Didn't she? And that made you jealous, and so you killed her. | 1:16:48 | 1:16:51 | |
At least that's what you told the jury. | 1:16:51 | 1:16:55 | |
But why mustn't Agnes give evidence? | 1:16:55 | 1:16:59 | |
-What good will this do? -In terms of her sentence, none. | 1:17:00 | 1:17:05 | |
Agnes is going to spend a good many years in custodial care, | 1:17:05 | 1:17:09 | |
but that doesn't mean it's the end of her life, Alan, | 1:17:09 | 1:17:12 | |
because it depends on the help she can get. | 1:17:12 | 1:17:14 | |
Nobody can help her if nobody knows. | 1:17:14 | 1:17:18 | |
To help her to a future, I need to understand her past. | 1:17:18 | 1:17:24 | |
I'd like to understand as well. | 1:17:24 | 1:17:26 | |
I have a daughter. | 1:17:30 | 1:17:32 | |
And she has a broken home. | 1:17:32 | 1:17:35 | |
I've hurt her. And she's angry. | 1:17:37 | 1:17:41 | |
I think Agnes is angry, don't you? | 1:17:43 | 1:17:46 | |
When Agnes was born... | 1:17:48 | 1:17:50 | |
..the first day of her life... | 1:17:52 | 1:17:54 | |
..Domenica tried to suffocate her. | 1:17:56 | 1:17:59 | |
A nurse saw. | 1:18:00 | 1:18:01 | |
Post-natal depression, they said. | 1:18:01 | 1:18:03 | |
But, Mr Gently... | 1:18:06 | 1:18:08 | |
..Domenica kept trying. | 1:18:09 | 1:18:11 | |
Eventually, I had her sectioned... | 1:18:15 | 1:18:18 | |
..and I took Agnes to the coast to start a new life. | 1:18:20 | 1:18:23 | |
But Agnes kept going back to her, | 1:18:23 | 1:18:27 | |
even though you'd taken her away? | 1:18:27 | 1:18:29 | |
They were drawn to each other. | 1:18:29 | 1:18:31 | |
There is evil in this world, Inspector. | 1:18:33 | 1:18:36 | |
Take my word for it. | 1:18:38 | 1:18:40 | |
There is evil. | 1:18:40 | 1:18:41 | |
And when he came back into Domenica's life...I had to stop it. | 1:18:42 | 1:18:46 | |
Who? | 1:18:46 | 1:18:48 | |
Agnes's father. | 1:18:48 | 1:18:51 | |
Was he the man in the room that night? The Scotsman? | 1:18:51 | 1:18:54 | |
When I saw... | 1:18:57 | 1:19:00 | |
..what was happening in that room... | 1:19:01 | 1:19:03 | |
..something snapped. | 1:19:05 | 1:19:06 | |
I hit him twice with a poker, but Domenica threw herself at us. | 1:19:09 | 1:19:14 | |
I just... | 1:19:14 | 1:19:16 | |
hit her and hit her. | 1:19:16 | 1:19:18 | |
He was gone. | 1:19:22 | 1:19:25 | |
Agnes was gone as well. | 1:19:25 | 1:19:27 | |
Who was it? | 1:19:27 | 1:19:29 | |
He's their father. | 1:19:33 | 1:19:35 | |
He's Domenica's father... | 1:19:38 | 1:19:39 | |
..and he's Agnes's father. | 1:19:41 | 1:19:43 | |
-Mrs Paige know about this? -Aye, she does. | 1:19:57 | 1:20:01 | |
I don't know about Darren. | 1:20:01 | 1:20:02 | |
What does Darren ever know? | 1:20:02 | 1:20:04 | |
But they both knew what I didn't know. | 1:20:06 | 1:20:08 | |
He'd come back to find Domenica. | 1:20:11 | 1:20:13 | |
They knew that and they didn't tell us. | 1:20:15 | 1:20:18 | |
He'd been in the area two years. | 1:20:22 | 1:20:25 | |
But this time... | 1:20:27 | 1:20:28 | |
..he was looking for Agnes as well. | 1:20:30 | 1:20:33 | |
Agnes? | 1:20:33 | 1:20:35 | |
He did to Agnes... | 1:20:35 | 1:20:38 | |
..what he'd done to Domenica. | 1:20:39 | 1:20:41 | |
When did this start? When did he come back? | 1:20:46 | 1:20:48 | |
Easter last year. | 1:20:48 | 1:20:50 | |
Just a few months before Laura Gadd was killed? | 1:20:50 | 1:20:53 | |
Agnes tried to take Geraint Williams. | 1:20:55 | 1:20:57 | |
You foiled her. Then she took Robin Pershore. | 1:20:57 | 1:21:00 | |
You foiled her. | 1:21:00 | 1:21:02 | |
Why did she start taking children again | 1:21:04 | 1:21:06 | |
over a year after she'd killed Laura Gadd? Why? | 1:21:06 | 1:21:11 | |
Had your father turned up again, Darren? | 1:21:11 | 1:21:13 | |
It was that same morning. | 1:21:19 | 1:21:20 | |
I came out into the garden, and there he was talking to Agnes. | 1:21:22 | 1:21:26 | |
I sent her inside. I told him. I told him that it had got to stop, | 1:21:26 | 1:21:31 | |
but he just give us a smack around the face | 1:21:31 | 1:21:34 | |
and said he'd do what he liked. | 1:21:34 | 1:21:36 | |
I told him I was going to the police. But I couldn't... | 1:21:36 | 1:21:40 | |
you know? | 1:21:40 | 1:21:41 | |
He's me dad. | 1:21:42 | 1:21:43 | |
Where is he, Darren? Where's your father? | 1:21:43 | 1:21:47 | |
-He cannae help hisself, you know. -Don't want to hear it, Darren. | 1:21:47 | 1:21:51 | |
Where is he? | 1:21:51 | 1:21:52 | |
He was at the Seamens' Hostel in Jarrow, | 1:21:52 | 1:21:56 | |
but he'll be gone by now. | 1:21:56 | 1:21:57 | |
Under the name of Smith, I presume? | 1:22:02 | 1:22:04 | |
This Mr Smith, he comes and goes, does he? | 1:22:05 | 1:22:08 | |
Aye, couple of nights here, couple of nights there. | 1:22:08 | 1:22:10 | |
How long this time, exactly? | 1:22:10 | 1:22:12 | |
He said he just wanted a room for the one night. | 1:22:12 | 1:22:15 | |
That was five nights ago. | 1:22:15 | 1:22:16 | |
Five...! And he's still here? You're sure? | 1:22:16 | 1:22:20 | |
Why, he's not collected his deposit. | 1:22:20 | 1:22:22 | |
Away, man. Look, out! | 1:22:24 | 1:22:26 | |
Uh... Yeah, he's in there. | 1:22:33 | 1:22:36 | |
I'm going to get you shut down. | 1:22:38 | 1:22:40 | |
BACCHUS COUGHS | 1:22:43 | 1:22:45 | |
Oh, look at that. | 1:23:11 | 1:23:14 | |
Ronnie and Domenica, May 1946. | 1:23:16 | 1:23:19 | |
Before he became Satan. | 1:23:22 | 1:23:24 | |
They look happy. | 1:23:24 | 1:23:26 | |
That room's going to need to be paid to be de-fumigated. | 1:23:28 | 1:23:31 | |
And I know who'll get the blame for that - muggins. | 1:23:32 | 1:23:36 | |
Come on, pet. | 1:23:53 | 1:23:54 | |
You look very smart today. | 1:24:01 | 1:24:03 | |
Aye. It's a big day. | 1:24:03 | 1:24:05 | |
Your dad splashed out on a new motor? Bit young for him, isn't it? | 1:24:07 | 1:24:11 | |
-It's not his. -What, your mam learned to drive at her age? | 1:24:11 | 1:24:14 | |
No. | 1:24:14 | 1:24:15 | |
-Oh. -A friend. | 1:24:21 | 1:24:23 | |
Say goodbye to Daddy, Leigh Ann. | 1:24:24 | 1:24:26 | |
Goodbye, Daddy. | 1:24:26 | 1:24:28 | |
Her QC and I spent two hours yesterday in chambers | 1:24:46 | 1:24:49 | |
with the judge just talking through it all. | 1:24:49 | 1:24:51 | |
-And? -He said it's not evidence. | 1:24:51 | 1:24:55 | |
He's a nice old cove. | 1:24:55 | 1:24:57 | |
Takes his wig off when he's talking to her. | 1:24:57 | 1:24:59 | |
Tries not to talk in Latin too much... | 1:24:59 | 1:25:02 | |
There've been a lot of nice people on this case. | 1:25:03 | 1:25:06 | |
But none of them have made a difference to this... | 1:25:08 | 1:25:10 | |
ugly, ugly outcome. | 1:25:10 | 1:25:13 | |
This is the day that makes our jobs look | 1:25:13 | 1:25:16 | |
pointless and stupid. | 1:25:16 | 1:25:18 | |
Many things have been written in the press and elsewhere about | 1:25:26 | 1:25:30 | |
the particular character of this dreadful case. | 1:25:30 | 1:25:33 | |
There has been much speculation as to how a child | 1:25:33 | 1:25:37 | |
of such tender years could have committed such appalling crimes. | 1:25:37 | 1:25:43 | |
Cold-blooded murder of an innocent child | 1:25:43 | 1:25:46 | |
has left many grasping for explanations. | 1:25:46 | 1:25:50 | |
In the end, however, | 1:25:50 | 1:25:52 | |
society and this court must content themselves with the knowledge | 1:25:52 | 1:25:59 | |
that the accused has had a fair hearing | 1:25:59 | 1:26:01 | |
and that the victims of her abominable crimes | 1:26:01 | 1:26:06 | |
will receive justice. | 1:26:06 | 1:26:07 | |
Accordingly, I have this to say to the court and to you, Agnes. | 1:26:08 | 1:26:14 | |
Will you stand, please? | 1:26:14 | 1:26:16 | |
You are to be detained at Her Majesty's pleasure | 1:26:19 | 1:26:23 | |
at a secure unit until you are of age... | 1:26:23 | 1:26:26 | |
..at which point you are to be given into the care of the prison service. | 1:26:27 | 1:26:33 | |
It will be for others to decide when it may be safe | 1:26:34 | 1:26:38 | |
to release you into the community once more. | 1:26:38 | 1:26:42 | |
But in any event, you will serve at least 20 years. | 1:26:42 | 1:26:48 | |
MURMURING | 1:26:48 | 1:26:51 | |
I know you cannot see me. | 1:27:00 | 1:27:02 | |
I'm here. | 1:27:04 | 1:27:06 | |
But none of you can see me. | 1:27:06 | 1:27:09 | |
Take her away, please. | 1:27:10 | 1:27:11 | |
Ready? | 1:27:21 | 1:27:23 | |
Yeah. | 1:27:23 | 1:27:25 | |
I'm going to write you letters | 1:27:34 | 1:27:37 | |
and send you drawings of whatever I see. OK? | 1:27:37 | 1:27:40 | |
Yeah. I would like that, Agnes. | 1:27:40 | 1:27:42 | |
Thank you. | 1:27:42 | 1:27:43 | |
There IS a life to come for you. | 1:27:44 | 1:27:47 | |
Try and remember that. | 1:27:49 | 1:27:50 | |
That's a funny thing to say. | 1:27:52 | 1:27:53 | |
Maybe. | 1:27:53 | 1:27:56 | |
Just try and remember it. | 1:27:57 | 1:27:59 | |
KNOCK AT DOOR | 1:28:01 | 1:28:02 | |
It's OK. Go on. | 1:28:05 | 1:28:07 | |
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