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-It's for "Alison". -That's what he called me. | 0:00:02 | 0:00:03 | |
I wasn't allowed to be Ivy. | 0:00:03 | 0:00:05 | |
I love you. | 0:00:05 | 0:00:06 | |
After everything Ivy's been through, I've hurt her. | 0:00:06 | 0:00:09 | |
You having an affair, | 0:00:09 | 0:00:10 | |
leaving our home because you gave up. | 0:00:10 | 0:00:14 | |
Do you know who this is? | 0:00:14 | 0:00:15 | |
It's White's half-brother, Dylan. | 0:00:15 | 0:00:18 | |
I'll put you on record as never having seen this man, | 0:00:18 | 0:00:20 | |
never having the impression he was attendant | 0:00:20 | 0:00:22 | |
-on Colbridge Road, yes? -Yes. | 0:00:22 | 0:00:23 | |
-Get out! -Stop using her as an excuse. | 0:00:23 | 0:00:26 | |
You didn't even think she was your sister in the first place. | 0:00:26 | 0:00:29 | |
Will you stay? | 0:00:29 | 0:00:30 | |
I don't want to be on my own. | 0:00:30 | 0:00:33 | |
# Kiss your face | 0:00:40 | 0:00:43 | |
# Turn your cheek | 0:00:44 | 0:00:46 | |
# Lay your head down Lay your head down | 0:00:47 | 0:00:51 | |
# Lay your head down Lay your head down. # | 0:00:53 | 0:00:57 | |
SHE GASPS | 0:01:43 | 0:01:45 | |
Elliott... | 0:01:49 | 0:01:51 | |
I hope you're dusting off a spectacular excuse. | 0:02:10 | 0:02:13 | |
I need you over here, Elliott. | 0:02:13 | 0:02:15 | |
Mum? | 0:02:41 | 0:02:42 | |
Do you want a cup of tea? | 0:02:48 | 0:02:50 | |
SHE KNOCKS | 0:03:23 | 0:03:24 | |
Come in. | 0:03:34 | 0:03:35 | |
PHONE BUZZES AND CHIMES | 0:03:37 | 0:03:39 | |
Are you awake? | 0:04:10 | 0:04:11 | |
PHONES RING | 0:04:31 | 0:04:34 | |
Incident room, PS Porter speaking, how can I help you? | 0:04:41 | 0:04:44 | |
Is this concerning Phoebe Tarl? | 0:04:44 | 0:04:47 | |
Elliot. My office. | 0:04:48 | 0:04:50 | |
To be unreachable in the middle of an investigation of this scale... | 0:05:04 | 0:05:07 | |
Sir, if you'd let me explain... | 0:05:07 | 0:05:09 | |
A skeleton's been found at 5 Colbridge Road. | 0:05:09 | 0:05:11 | |
What? | 0:05:11 | 0:05:13 | |
Get yourself down to the mortuary. Lisa will fill you in. | 0:05:13 | 0:05:16 | |
FOOTSTEPS DESCEND | 0:05:22 | 0:05:23 | |
Where's Mum? | 0:05:27 | 0:05:28 | |
Ivy, if you just let me explain... | 0:05:28 | 0:05:30 | |
Her keys aren't here. | 0:05:30 | 0:05:32 | |
-Can we talk? -Maybe she just needed some time. | 0:05:32 | 0:05:34 | |
PHONE RINGS | 0:05:37 | 0:05:38 | |
Eloise, hi. | 0:05:40 | 0:05:42 | |
How long's this going to go on for? | 0:05:42 | 0:05:44 | |
-This being? -The silent treatment. | 0:05:44 | 0:05:47 | |
I've said I'm sorry, but there are things we need to talk about. | 0:05:47 | 0:05:49 | |
-I need a lift. -I'll take you. | 0:05:49 | 0:05:51 | |
Craig, are you all right to? | 0:05:51 | 0:05:53 | |
Yeah. | 0:06:00 | 0:06:01 | |
-How long's it been down there for? -The body was wrapped in sheeting. | 0:06:08 | 0:06:11 | |
It's weathered better than our friend there. | 0:06:11 | 0:06:14 | |
The results will be in soon. | 0:06:14 | 0:06:16 | |
-How did we find it? -I went looking. | 0:06:16 | 0:06:19 | |
The rest of 5 Colbridge Road - gardens, surrounds - | 0:06:19 | 0:06:22 | |
it's being pulled up as we speak. | 0:06:22 | 0:06:24 | |
There could be more. | 0:06:24 | 0:06:25 | |
What's with your total inability to answer your phone? | 0:06:26 | 0:06:30 | |
I ended up getting rat-arsed with my mate, didn't have my charger. | 0:06:31 | 0:06:35 | |
Lucky mate. | 0:06:36 | 0:06:37 | |
Does Ivy know about this? | 0:06:39 | 0:06:40 | |
I haven't slept. | 0:06:46 | 0:06:47 | |
-You look great. -Don't. | 0:06:50 | 0:06:52 | |
Did you get my messages? | 0:07:05 | 0:07:07 | |
The situation at the school, him working there... | 0:07:08 | 0:07:11 | |
I didn't come here for that. I don't want to hear... | 0:07:11 | 0:07:13 | |
I just needed someone to talk to. | 0:07:15 | 0:07:17 | |
-Have you got any sweetener? -There's one in already. | 0:07:20 | 0:07:23 | |
I don't know what to do. | 0:07:27 | 0:07:29 | |
-TEARFULLY: -Ivy. I don't know how to fix her. | 0:07:31 | 0:07:34 | |
Fix us all, make us a family again. | 0:07:35 | 0:07:38 | |
How could anyone? | 0:07:38 | 0:07:40 | |
You're always too hard on yourself. | 0:07:40 | 0:07:43 | |
Don't say that. Don't talk like you know me. | 0:07:43 | 0:07:45 | |
It's been years. | 0:07:45 | 0:07:46 | |
13 years. | 0:07:49 | 0:07:51 | |
Last night, I shouldn't have said what I said. | 0:07:59 | 0:08:02 | |
Don't blame Em. Blame me. | 0:08:04 | 0:08:06 | |
-RADIO: -'..for the news. | 0:08:08 | 0:08:09 | |
'The hunt for missing Bristol schoolgirl Phoebe Tarl | 0:08:09 | 0:08:12 | |
'has entered yet another day. | 0:08:12 | 0:08:14 | |
'There have been no sightings of the ten-year-old | 0:08:14 | 0:08:16 | |
'since she was abducted by serial kidnapper Mark White.' | 0:08:16 | 0:08:18 | |
She hates herself for thinking...for not knowing... | 0:08:18 | 0:08:22 | |
PHONE RINGS | 0:08:22 | 0:08:24 | |
RADIO VOLUME INCREASES | 0:08:25 | 0:08:27 | |
That was classy - leaving me here while you go off with Ivy. | 0:08:27 | 0:08:32 | |
I should be with her. I should be the one trying to make it right. | 0:08:32 | 0:08:35 | |
Me and her, we were just... | 0:08:35 | 0:08:37 | |
You have ruined the only thing that matters to me. | 0:08:37 | 0:08:40 | |
What have we found? | 0:08:43 | 0:08:44 | |
It's Dylan. White's half-brother. | 0:08:44 | 0:08:47 | |
The dental records match. | 0:08:49 | 0:08:50 | |
Dr Pradesh is saying he's been down in the cellar | 0:08:50 | 0:08:53 | |
for seven years, meaning... | 0:08:53 | 0:08:55 | |
..Ivy was down there with him. | 0:08:57 | 0:08:58 | |
She's been protecting White this whole time. | 0:09:00 | 0:09:02 | |
He kills Dylan, his own family, and she keeps quiet. | 0:09:02 | 0:09:05 | |
Even now, when he has Phoebe, Ivy doesn't speak up, doesn't say, | 0:09:05 | 0:09:08 | |
"Oh, by the way, he's killed before." | 0:09:08 | 0:09:11 | |
Every fucking thing she's told us was a lie. | 0:09:11 | 0:09:14 | |
KNOCKING | 0:09:21 | 0:09:23 | |
Sorry. Come in, come in. | 0:09:31 | 0:09:33 | |
Sorry, it's a bit of a tip. | 0:09:33 | 0:09:35 | |
It's not even close. | 0:09:35 | 0:09:36 | |
I remember your bedroom floor. | 0:09:37 | 0:09:39 | |
Place'll just about do till I go back home. | 0:09:41 | 0:09:43 | |
I can offer you poor-quality coffee, poor-quality tea, | 0:09:45 | 0:09:49 | |
or my home-made mini-bar - | 0:09:49 | 0:09:52 | |
sod the Yardarm. | 0:09:52 | 0:09:53 | |
Sorry I missed your call last night. I was... | 0:09:57 | 0:10:00 | |
Well, doesn't matter. | 0:10:00 | 0:10:02 | |
Were you OK? | 0:10:03 | 0:10:04 | |
You know... | 0:10:06 | 0:10:07 | |
Want that drink? | 0:10:10 | 0:10:12 | |
Is it OK if I hang here for a bit? | 0:10:12 | 0:10:14 | |
Course. I'd like that. | 0:10:14 | 0:10:16 | |
Am I all right to smoke? | 0:10:33 | 0:10:35 | |
-Can I tempt you? -Sure. | 0:10:48 | 0:10:50 | |
Wouldn't be me and you if I wasn't coercing you into bad habits. | 0:10:54 | 0:10:57 | |
Your parents have a lot to blame me for. | 0:10:59 | 0:11:01 | |
I don't know how to say this, other than to just say it. | 0:11:10 | 0:11:13 | |
I'm sorry. | 0:11:13 | 0:11:14 | |
Oh... | 0:11:15 | 0:11:17 | |
-I get it, you're friends with Tim. -No... | 0:11:17 | 0:11:20 | |
No, not for that. Well...for that, too, but... | 0:11:20 | 0:11:22 | |
No - um...for that day. | 0:11:22 | 0:11:25 | |
-For not meeting you. If I had... -You don't have to. | 0:11:26 | 0:11:29 | |
I fucked up royally. I let you down. | 0:11:29 | 0:11:31 | |
I'd get it if you couldn't forgive me. | 0:11:31 | 0:11:33 | |
-I haven't. -El, stop... | 0:11:33 | 0:11:34 | |
I should've stuck to the plan. | 0:11:34 | 0:11:36 | |
-I should've met you, then none of it would have happened. -Eloise... | 0:11:36 | 0:11:39 | |
Fine. Sorry. I'm stopping, I'm stopping. | 0:11:39 | 0:11:41 | |
There's nothing to forgive. | 0:11:41 | 0:11:42 | |
-Hardly. -I'm being serious. | 0:11:42 | 0:11:44 | |
A million different things put me on that street that day. | 0:11:44 | 0:11:47 | |
If I had breakfast... | 0:11:48 | 0:11:51 | |
If I got a lift with Mum... | 0:11:51 | 0:11:53 | |
If I never had my earphones in... | 0:11:54 | 0:11:56 | |
If, if, if, it's... | 0:11:58 | 0:11:59 | |
It wasn't your fault. | 0:12:02 | 0:12:03 | |
How long were you going to let me pretend for? | 0:12:11 | 0:12:13 | |
It's totally rank. | 0:12:16 | 0:12:18 | |
THEY LAUGH | 0:12:18 | 0:12:21 | |
DOORBELL RINGS | 0:12:33 | 0:12:35 | |
HE KNOCKS | 0:12:40 | 0:12:41 | |
-We need to see Ivy. -She's not in. | 0:12:45 | 0:12:48 | |
Do you know where she is? | 0:12:48 | 0:12:50 | |
I'll tell her you swung by. | 0:12:50 | 0:12:52 | |
We've come to take her into custody. So, where is she? | 0:12:53 | 0:12:57 | |
It's nice out here. | 0:12:59 | 0:13:01 | |
Well, fresh air's a cure-all. | 0:13:01 | 0:13:03 | |
Yeah. I do feel less... | 0:13:03 | 0:13:04 | |
HE SNIFFS | 0:13:08 | 0:13:10 | |
That is one of the best smells in the world. | 0:13:10 | 0:13:13 | |
-Mmm... -I can give you some cuttings, if you'd like. | 0:13:15 | 0:13:17 | |
Oh, I haven't been in the garden for an embarrassing amount of time. | 0:13:17 | 0:13:20 | |
Hang on. | 0:13:20 | 0:13:21 | |
OBJECTS CLATTER | 0:13:31 | 0:13:33 | |
We'll get you started again. | 0:13:35 | 0:13:36 | |
Um...if you'd like. | 0:13:39 | 0:13:41 | |
-Is that a "yes"? -Yes, it's a "yes", Henry. | 0:13:43 | 0:13:45 | |
PHONE BUZZES | 0:13:50 | 0:13:52 | |
Emma, I'll be back soon. | 0:13:55 | 0:13:57 | |
What did they say? | 0:14:00 | 0:14:02 | |
I have things to do, so... | 0:14:07 | 0:14:08 | |
Yeah. | 0:14:09 | 0:14:11 | |
I'll get these things out of your way. | 0:14:12 | 0:14:15 | |
You must be really happy, to go back to your old home, hm? | 0:14:15 | 0:14:18 | |
Your old life. | 0:14:18 | 0:14:19 | |
This, me... | 0:14:22 | 0:14:25 | |
Like it never happened. | 0:14:25 | 0:14:27 | |
It did. | 0:14:29 | 0:14:30 | |
-You did. -Just go. | 0:14:32 | 0:14:35 | |
KNOCKING | 0:14:47 | 0:14:49 | |
-Come with us, Ivy. -We're in the middle of something, | 0:14:58 | 0:15:00 | |
and your "hello" could do with some work. | 0:15:00 | 0:15:02 | |
Ivy, if you wouldn't mind. | 0:15:02 | 0:15:04 | |
-I'm with my best friend. -We don't have time for this. | 0:15:04 | 0:15:08 | |
Hey, what's with the heavy hands? | 0:15:08 | 0:15:09 | |
Ivy Moxam, I'm arresting you on suspicion of perverting the course of justice. | 0:15:09 | 0:15:12 | |
You don't have to say anything, but it may harm your defence | 0:15:12 | 0:15:15 | |
if you do not mention when questioned | 0:15:15 | 0:15:17 | |
something you later rely on in court. | 0:15:17 | 0:15:18 | |
Anything you do say may be given in evidence. | 0:15:18 | 0:15:21 | |
Is this because of last night? | 0:15:32 | 0:15:34 | |
Me asking you to stay over? | 0:15:34 | 0:15:36 | |
ENGINE STARTS | 0:15:40 | 0:15:42 | |
Why did you let me lie in this late? | 0:15:49 | 0:15:52 | |
I thought you needed a sleep. | 0:15:52 | 0:15:54 | |
More like you wanted the peace. | 0:15:54 | 0:15:56 | |
Please... | 0:15:57 | 0:15:58 | |
..can we not? Not again. | 0:15:59 | 0:16:02 | |
I'm afraid it doesn't work like that. | 0:16:02 | 0:16:05 | |
You don't get to dictate when we talk | 0:16:05 | 0:16:07 | |
about this...mess you've got us in. | 0:16:07 | 0:16:10 | |
I said I'm sorry. What more do you want, Yazz? | 0:16:11 | 0:16:15 | |
I want to feel like you want to make it right. | 0:16:15 | 0:16:19 | |
Like you don't still have feelings for her. | 0:16:19 | 0:16:21 | |
I don't have feelings for her. | 0:16:21 | 0:16:24 | |
You're my wife. | 0:16:24 | 0:16:26 | |
PHONE RINGS | 0:16:26 | 0:16:27 | |
Finish your sentence. | 0:16:27 | 0:16:29 | |
Finish your sentence, Tim. | 0:16:32 | 0:16:33 | |
It's Eloise. | 0:16:33 | 0:16:35 | |
I've got to check that she didn't end up | 0:16:35 | 0:16:36 | |
sleeping rough in some doorway. | 0:16:36 | 0:16:38 | |
You're behaving like a child. | 0:16:38 | 0:16:41 | |
What? | 0:16:41 | 0:16:42 | |
Have you called Christina? | 0:16:43 | 0:16:45 | |
We need to go to the station, then. | 0:16:48 | 0:16:51 | |
I'll come and get you. | 0:16:51 | 0:16:52 | |
Ivy's been arrested. | 0:16:58 | 0:16:59 | |
She's not your responsibility. | 0:17:01 | 0:17:03 | |
I have to go. | 0:17:03 | 0:17:04 | |
No, you really don't. | 0:17:04 | 0:17:05 | |
If you leave in the middle of this, then... | 0:17:07 | 0:17:08 | |
..then we're done. | 0:17:10 | 0:17:12 | |
I'll be back as soon as I can. | 0:17:12 | 0:17:13 | |
DOOR CLOSES HEAVILY | 0:18:23 | 0:18:25 | |
Elliott? | 0:18:29 | 0:18:31 | |
Is anyone coming? | 0:18:39 | 0:18:41 | |
You've been on the job for nearly 48 hours straight. | 0:18:43 | 0:18:46 | |
Well, one of you has. | 0:18:49 | 0:18:50 | |
So, are you both good for this or not? | 0:18:51 | 0:18:54 | |
-Yes, sir. -Yes, sir. | 0:18:54 | 0:18:56 | |
DOOR OPENS | 0:19:00 | 0:19:02 | |
I'm Detective Sergeant Lisa Merchant, joined by... | 0:19:13 | 0:19:16 | |
Detective Inspector Elliott Carne. | 0:19:16 | 0:19:18 | |
We're here to interview Ivy Moxam | 0:19:18 | 0:19:20 | |
on suspicion of perverting the course of justice. | 0:19:20 | 0:19:23 | |
You do not have to say anything, but it may harm your defence | 0:19:24 | 0:19:28 | |
if you do not mention when questioned | 0:19:28 | 0:19:30 | |
something which you later rely on in court. | 0:19:30 | 0:19:33 | |
Anything you say may be given in evidence. | 0:19:33 | 0:19:37 | |
You have the right to legal representation. | 0:19:37 | 0:19:40 | |
Would you like to take that right? | 0:19:40 | 0:19:42 | |
I don't know what I'm supposed to have done. | 0:19:42 | 0:19:44 | |
-Answer the question. -No, I don't. | 0:19:44 | 0:19:47 | |
Elliott, what's going on? | 0:19:48 | 0:19:50 | |
We found him. | 0:19:50 | 0:19:51 | |
So Phoebe's safe? | 0:19:54 | 0:19:56 | |
It's over? | 0:19:56 | 0:19:58 | |
Not him. | 0:19:58 | 0:19:59 | |
We found Dylan. | 0:20:02 | 0:20:03 | |
SHE SCREAMS | 0:20:34 | 0:20:36 | |
SHE CRIES | 0:20:40 | 0:20:42 | |
I'm sorry. | 0:21:04 | 0:21:05 | |
I'm sorry. | 0:21:07 | 0:21:09 | |
I'm sorry. | 0:21:12 | 0:21:13 | |
They'll realise they got it wrong and let her go, right? | 0:21:15 | 0:21:17 | |
We can be there for her without actually, physically being there. | 0:21:17 | 0:21:20 | |
-She'll want her family. -I want to protect her. | 0:21:20 | 0:21:23 | |
The whole knight-in-shining-armour routine is a bit dated. | 0:21:23 | 0:21:27 | |
Shut up, Eloise. | 0:21:27 | 0:21:28 | |
I think I love her. | 0:21:31 | 0:21:32 | |
The discovery of Dylan's body | 0:21:38 | 0:21:41 | |
indicates that you have fabricated your version of events | 0:21:41 | 0:21:45 | |
for the period you were in the cellar. | 0:21:45 | 0:21:47 | |
Can you explain why, Ivy? | 0:21:47 | 0:21:49 | |
Lying as you've done protects White. | 0:21:54 | 0:21:56 | |
Do you know where he is? | 0:21:58 | 0:22:00 | |
In your interview yesterday, | 0:22:05 | 0:22:06 | |
when the following was said to you, "I'll put you down on record | 0:22:06 | 0:22:12 | |
"as never having seen this man, never having heard mention of him, | 0:22:12 | 0:22:15 | |
"never having the impression he was attendant on Colbridge Road," | 0:22:15 | 0:22:19 | |
you replied, "Yes." | 0:22:19 | 0:22:21 | |
That was me giving you a chance. A chance to tell the truth. | 0:22:23 | 0:22:27 | |
I want to go over some dates with you. | 0:22:30 | 0:22:33 | |
Is that OK, Ivy? | 0:22:33 | 0:22:34 | |
2006, year three of your captivity, | 0:22:38 | 0:22:42 | |
we have a witness placing Dylan at Sunbridge High, | 0:22:42 | 0:22:45 | |
looking for his brother, Mark White. | 0:22:45 | 0:22:49 | |
Dylan's postmortem gives us 2009 as the year of his death. | 0:22:49 | 0:22:54 | |
As you know, his body was found behind the cellar wall. | 0:22:56 | 0:23:00 | |
The cellar you were kept in. | 0:23:01 | 0:23:03 | |
This gives us at least three years where we can only assume | 0:23:05 | 0:23:09 | |
that Dylan was known to you. | 0:23:09 | 0:23:11 | |
Maybe even lived down there with you. | 0:23:12 | 0:23:14 | |
Did he? | 0:23:17 | 0:23:19 | |
Did he act as an accomplice with White in your original abduction? | 0:23:27 | 0:23:31 | |
By refusing to answer our questions, you leave us no choice | 0:23:52 | 0:23:56 | |
but to charge you with perverting the course of justice. | 0:23:56 | 0:24:00 | |
Which carries a maximum 36-month sentence. | 0:24:00 | 0:24:04 | |
Don't you think you've spent enough time away from your family? | 0:24:10 | 0:24:13 | |
The back of Dylan's skull was missing. | 0:24:19 | 0:24:22 | |
Like it had been caved in. | 0:24:24 | 0:24:26 | |
Do you know how much force it takes to do that to a person? | 0:24:29 | 0:24:34 | |
The animal that did that... | 0:24:36 | 0:24:38 | |
he has a ten-year-old girl with him. | 0:24:38 | 0:24:41 | |
Dylan was a 30-year-old man when he was killed. | 0:24:41 | 0:24:44 | |
Phoebe...doesn't stand a chance. | 0:24:44 | 0:24:46 | |
-You don't believe me, do you? -I do, actually. | 0:25:06 | 0:25:10 | |
-Right. -I believe you're in love with Ivy. | 0:25:10 | 0:25:13 | |
Just not this version. 13-year-old Ivy. | 0:25:13 | 0:25:16 | |
-But that girl, she doesn't exist any more. -She does. I've seen it. | 0:25:16 | 0:25:21 | |
I've been with her and I've felt how it was. | 0:25:22 | 0:25:24 | |
Nostalgia with a side order of guilt. | 0:25:24 | 0:25:26 | |
I feel it too, OK? It's not just you going mad on your own. | 0:25:28 | 0:25:32 | |
When I'm with Ivy... | 0:25:35 | 0:25:36 | |
I dunno, I... I feel lighter somehow. | 0:25:38 | 0:25:43 | |
Of course you do. | 0:25:43 | 0:25:45 | |
It was first love. | 0:25:45 | 0:25:48 | |
It's not nagging about how you got in late, why you didn't text, | 0:25:48 | 0:25:52 | |
it's not the obligatory good-night peck. | 0:25:52 | 0:25:55 | |
It's not real life. | 0:25:55 | 0:25:57 | |
Yazz is. | 0:25:58 | 0:26:00 | |
By the way, all of the above? Exactly why I choose to stay single. | 0:26:03 | 0:26:06 | |
HE LAUGHS SOFTLY | 0:26:06 | 0:26:07 | |
What am I meant to do about all this? | 0:26:09 | 0:26:12 | |
For starters, work out a pretty bloody eloquent apology speech | 0:26:12 | 0:26:15 | |
for your wife. | 0:26:15 | 0:26:16 | |
-And Ivy? -We have to let her come to us. | 0:26:19 | 0:26:22 | |
SIREN WAILS | 0:26:32 | 0:26:34 | |
HE EXHALES | 0:26:44 | 0:26:46 | |
The results are back, from the sheeting used to wrap Dylan's body. | 0:27:08 | 0:27:12 | |
-What have I got, a match for White? -DNA WAS found. | 0:27:12 | 0:27:16 | |
Ivy's DNA. | 0:27:17 | 0:27:18 | |
What you're saying... | 0:27:26 | 0:27:28 | |
it doesn't make sense. | 0:27:28 | 0:27:30 | |
-I can appreciate that. -And you're certain? | 0:27:30 | 0:27:33 | |
The DNA, surely... Sometimes... | 0:27:34 | 0:27:38 | |
-You hear stories about mix-ups, cock-ups... -It's Ivy's DNA. | 0:27:38 | 0:27:41 | |
There's no forensic evidence that anyone other than Ivy | 0:27:41 | 0:27:44 | |
was involved in Dylan's death. | 0:27:44 | 0:27:46 | |
She's not capable of it. | 0:27:46 | 0:27:48 | |
Unfortunately, unless Ivy tells us her version of events, | 0:27:48 | 0:27:52 | |
we have no choice but to arrest her on suspicion of murder. | 0:27:52 | 0:27:55 | |
All she's been through and you dare to do this? | 0:27:58 | 0:28:00 | |
The fact remains if Ivy keeps refusing | 0:28:00 | 0:28:03 | |
to answer our questions... | 0:28:03 | 0:28:05 | |
then it's out of our hands. | 0:28:05 | 0:28:07 | |
She's my daughter. I'll talk to her. | 0:28:09 | 0:28:12 | |
Ivy? | 0:28:27 | 0:28:29 | |
It's Mum. | 0:28:29 | 0:28:31 | |
It's OK, darling, it's OK. | 0:28:38 | 0:28:40 | |
I'll just... | 0:28:50 | 0:28:52 | |
Everything that's said in that room is off the record. Understood? | 0:29:08 | 0:29:12 | |
Yes, sir. | 0:29:13 | 0:29:15 | |
I never tell my mum anything, if I can help it. | 0:29:23 | 0:29:25 | |
'Ivy, the police have told me what they think they've found.' | 0:29:29 | 0:29:33 | |
And it's... It's horrible, and you don't want to speak about it. | 0:29:34 | 0:29:39 | |
IVY SOBS QUIETLY | 0:29:39 | 0:29:41 | |
But you can tell me anything. | 0:29:41 | 0:29:43 | |
What you've...been through, | 0:29:44 | 0:29:46 | |
none of us can know how it feels. | 0:29:46 | 0:29:48 | |
What it can push you to do. | 0:29:53 | 0:29:54 | |
I don't care what you've done, I'll love you no matter what. | 0:29:57 | 0:30:02 | |
IVY SNIFFS | 0:30:04 | 0:30:06 | |
-Promise? -I promise. | 0:30:09 | 0:30:11 | |
TEARFULLY: He's dead because of me. | 0:30:15 | 0:30:17 | |
He's dead because... | 0:30:20 | 0:30:22 | |
SHE SOBS | 0:30:22 | 0:30:24 | |
SOBBING CONTINUES | 0:30:26 | 0:30:29 | |
-'You hate me, don't you? -(No, I love you.)' | 0:30:29 | 0:30:32 | |
Tell me what happened. | 0:30:38 | 0:30:40 | |
Dylan. | 0:30:44 | 0:30:46 | |
He was kind. | 0:30:50 | 0:30:52 | |
One time, he was left in charge. | 0:30:56 | 0:30:59 | |
So he let me out. | 0:31:03 | 0:31:05 | |
I nearly made it. | 0:31:08 | 0:31:09 | |
SHE BREATHES SHAKILY | 0:31:13 | 0:31:15 | |
But he came back and he shoved me, and I fell. | 0:31:16 | 0:31:21 | |
He grabbed Dylan... | 0:31:23 | 0:31:26 | |
VOICE BREAKING: ..and he got his head and... | 0:31:26 | 0:31:28 | |
When he finally stopped, Dylan was dead. | 0:31:32 | 0:31:35 | |
Mark White killed Dylan? | 0:31:36 | 0:31:38 | |
'He was my friend.' | 0:31:43 | 0:31:45 | |
If I hadn't have run... | 0:31:47 | 0:31:49 | |
..Dylan would still be alive. | 0:31:51 | 0:31:52 | |
-I'm a monster. -You're not. | 0:31:54 | 0:31:56 | |
You're my beautiful little girl. | 0:31:58 | 0:32:00 | |
He said if I ever told anyone... | 0:32:01 | 0:32:03 | |
..told you... | 0:32:06 | 0:32:08 | |
..that I'd be alone. | 0:32:11 | 0:32:13 | |
And you wouldn't love me any more. | 0:32:17 | 0:32:20 | |
Unconditionally. | 0:32:22 | 0:32:25 | |
That's the deal. | 0:32:25 | 0:32:27 | |
IVY SOBS | 0:32:27 | 0:32:29 | |
ELLIOTT SIGHS | 0:32:39 | 0:32:40 | |
SOBBING CONTINUES | 0:32:40 | 0:32:42 | |
SHE EXHALES | 0:32:49 | 0:32:51 | |
Craig, it's me. Again. Call me back. | 0:32:53 | 0:32:57 | |
Talk to me. | 0:33:04 | 0:33:06 | |
-I'm your dad, Emma. -And that means something, does it? | 0:33:07 | 0:33:10 | |
It means more than anything. | 0:33:12 | 0:33:14 | |
I know I've made some mistakes, love, | 0:33:14 | 0:33:16 | |
maybe some you can't forgive me for, but... | 0:33:16 | 0:33:18 | |
..I will never, ever stop trying to make that up to you and your sister. | 0:33:20 | 0:33:23 | |
OK? | 0:33:28 | 0:33:29 | |
OK, Dad. | 0:33:33 | 0:33:34 | |
KNOCK ON DOOR | 0:33:39 | 0:33:40 | |
Shall I stay? | 0:33:44 | 0:33:46 | |
Please. | 0:33:46 | 0:33:47 | |
I presume you heard every word? | 0:33:56 | 0:33:58 | |
Interview resumed at 11.33. Present in the room - | 0:34:02 | 0:34:06 | |
DS Merchant, DI Carne, Ivy Moxam, Christina Moxam. | 0:34:06 | 0:34:09 | |
Could you explain to us, then, Ivy, | 0:34:13 | 0:34:16 | |
how your DNA ended up on the sheeting that covered Dylan's body? | 0:34:16 | 0:34:20 | |
After... | 0:34:27 | 0:34:29 | |
..it was so quiet. | 0:34:33 | 0:34:35 | |
White was sick on the floor. | 0:34:40 | 0:34:42 | |
He couldn't look at what he'd done. | 0:34:46 | 0:34:48 | |
What next? | 0:34:50 | 0:34:51 | |
He made me pour bleach over the body. | 0:34:57 | 0:35:00 | |
Then cover... | 0:35:02 | 0:35:03 | |
..his face. | 0:35:05 | 0:35:07 | |
STRAINED: Wrap it up. | 0:35:09 | 0:35:10 | |
So he'd never have to see it again. | 0:35:13 | 0:35:15 | |
Thank you for doing that, Ivy. | 0:35:19 | 0:35:21 | |
Dylan's role up to that point... | 0:35:35 | 0:35:36 | |
..was he an accomplice to Mark White on 2nd May, 2003, | 0:35:38 | 0:35:43 | |
when you were abducted? | 0:35:43 | 0:35:46 | |
No. | 0:35:46 | 0:35:48 | |
When DID you first meet Dylan? | 0:35:48 | 0:35:51 | |
-That day. -When you were brought to 5 Colbridge Road? | 0:35:53 | 0:35:56 | |
Was Dylan complicit in your continued imprisonment? | 0:35:58 | 0:36:01 | |
Then why did you omit to mention him in any of the accounts | 0:36:03 | 0:36:07 | |
you have given us of your captivity? | 0:36:07 | 0:36:10 | |
It makes every statement you have given us | 0:36:10 | 0:36:12 | |
-inadmissible in court, marks you out as a false witness. -I couldn't. -Why? | 0:36:12 | 0:36:18 | |
Because then you'd know. | 0:36:18 | 0:36:19 | |
That White had murdered his own brother? | 0:36:19 | 0:36:21 | |
I wasn't meant to say, it was just for us. | 0:36:24 | 0:36:27 | |
How often did you see Dylan? | 0:36:39 | 0:36:40 | |
Whenever I was good, he was allowed to come visit me. | 0:36:42 | 0:36:45 | |
He'd bring his Game Boy. | 0:36:47 | 0:36:49 | |
He only had Tetris. | 0:36:51 | 0:36:53 | |
He never made an attempt to go to the police or alert anyone | 0:36:54 | 0:36:59 | |
to your presence? | 0:36:59 | 0:37:00 | |
He was scared. | 0:37:02 | 0:37:04 | |
Of the police? | 0:37:04 | 0:37:06 | |
Of his brother. | 0:37:08 | 0:37:09 | |
Was Mark White ever violent towards Dylan prior to the attack | 0:37:12 | 0:37:17 | |
that led to his death? | 0:37:17 | 0:37:19 | |
Sometimes. | 0:37:22 | 0:37:24 | |
This propensity to violence... | 0:37:26 | 0:37:28 | |
..it's this which complicates things for me. | 0:37:30 | 0:37:33 | |
You know what he is capable of. | 0:37:34 | 0:37:37 | |
A man who has a ten-year-old girl in his care. | 0:37:37 | 0:37:39 | |
-Yet you never said a word to us. -He wouldn't hurt her. | 0:37:39 | 0:37:42 | |
-She's too young. -How can you be so sure of that, Ivy? | 0:37:44 | 0:37:47 | |
Everything has to be proper. | 0:37:47 | 0:37:49 | |
Proper is 16. | 0:37:49 | 0:37:51 | |
And Dylan, what was his relationship to you? | 0:37:58 | 0:38:02 | |
His medical records all point to | 0:38:04 | 0:38:06 | |
an impaired cognitive function. | 0:38:06 | 0:38:08 | |
What mental age did he seem? | 0:38:10 | 0:38:12 | |
Young. | 0:38:15 | 0:38:16 | |
Younger than me. | 0:38:19 | 0:38:21 | |
So did you sometimes take on the parental role in the relationship? | 0:38:21 | 0:38:26 | |
But at other times, as in your abortive escape attempt... | 0:38:28 | 0:38:33 | |
he took on the role of your protector. | 0:38:33 | 0:38:36 | |
Yes. | 0:38:36 | 0:38:38 | |
Did he ever talk about his and White's family situation? | 0:38:39 | 0:38:43 | |
Just that his mum had given up on him. | 0:38:45 | 0:38:48 | |
-And where did White fit into this? -He saved him. | 0:38:48 | 0:38:52 | |
That's what Dylan always said. | 0:38:56 | 0:38:58 | |
"My brother saved me." | 0:39:01 | 0:39:03 | |
To repeatedly smash your own brother's head on the floor... | 0:39:10 | 0:39:14 | |
I mean, I'm all for sibling rivalry... | 0:39:14 | 0:39:15 | |
Do you ever take anything seriously? | 0:39:15 | 0:39:17 | |
I do actually. I just don't let it affect my work. | 0:39:23 | 0:39:26 | |
We're still well within our rights to pursue the original charge. | 0:39:33 | 0:39:36 | |
You can't be serious? | 0:39:36 | 0:39:37 | |
What we do know, from her reaction - Dylan's body has power. | 0:39:37 | 0:39:41 | |
-She shared that secret for seven years with one other. -White. | 0:39:41 | 0:39:45 | |
We release the information, show him how little control he has, | 0:39:46 | 0:39:49 | |
push him into making mistakes. | 0:39:49 | 0:39:51 | |
But we leave Ivy out of it. | 0:39:51 | 0:39:52 | |
-ON TV: -'A few moments ago, | 0:40:09 | 0:40:11 | |
'Chief Superintendent Burridge released the following statement. | 0:40:11 | 0:40:15 | |
' "The body of a 30-year-old male has been identified | 0:40:15 | 0:40:19 | |
' "as missing person Dylan Hawthorn. | 0:40:19 | 0:40:21 | |
' "His half-brother, serial kidnapper Mark White, | 0:40:21 | 0:40:24 | |
' "is suspected of the murder." ' | 0:40:24 | 0:40:26 | |
BEER SPLATTERS | 0:40:27 | 0:40:28 | |
Ivy, you're free to go. | 0:40:56 | 0:40:58 | |
I want you to find her. | 0:41:02 | 0:41:04 | |
I... I didn't want to make it harder. | 0:41:07 | 0:41:10 | |
-Your possessions. -Let's get you home, darling. -If I could, em... | 0:41:10 | 0:41:14 | |
I just need a moment with Ivy to sign out her...things. | 0:41:14 | 0:41:17 | |
I just wanted to say sorry for... | 0:41:36 | 0:41:38 | |
-I let you down. -Where do I sign? | 0:41:41 | 0:41:43 | |
-Please, let me try to explain. -There's nothing to explain. | 0:41:52 | 0:41:55 | |
You're a policeman, you're just doing your job. | 0:41:58 | 0:42:01 | |
You're not my friend, you're not my family. | 0:42:01 | 0:42:04 | |
DOOR OPENS | 0:42:14 | 0:42:15 | |
RECEDING FOOTSTEPS | 0:42:30 | 0:42:31 | |
-IVY'S FATHER: -All sorted out? -IVY: Yeah. | 0:42:37 | 0:42:40 | |
-IVY'S MOTHER: -Well done. | 0:42:40 | 0:42:41 | |
We're seriously low on sleep. | 0:42:44 | 0:42:46 | |
Go home. Get your head down. | 0:42:48 | 0:42:50 | |
Once you're out on the other side, you might see things differently. | 0:42:52 | 0:42:56 | |
CAR ENGINE STARTS | 0:42:56 | 0:42:58 | |
Thanks, Lisa. | 0:43:05 | 0:43:06 | |
I'm sorry. | 0:43:08 | 0:43:09 | |
I don't want to presume. | 0:43:25 | 0:43:27 | |
Don't be stupid, Dad. | 0:43:27 | 0:43:29 | |
Come on then, you old lug. | 0:43:36 | 0:43:38 | |
SHE SIGHS | 0:44:17 | 0:44:19 | |
TEXT ALERT | 0:44:33 | 0:44:34 | |
TAP AT WINDOW | 0:44:39 | 0:44:41 | |
TAP AT WINDOW | 0:44:45 | 0:44:46 | |
I can't stay out long, Mum will worry. | 0:44:54 | 0:44:56 | |
I thought if I came here and I saw you... | 0:45:03 | 0:45:06 | |
-HE SIGHS -But it's all the same headfuck. | 0:45:09 | 0:45:11 | |
You should've just told me you were married. | 0:45:13 | 0:45:15 | |
It's not that easy sometimes. | 0:45:18 | 0:45:20 | |
I thought about you every day. | 0:45:28 | 0:45:30 | |
So did I. | 0:45:34 | 0:45:35 | |
I'm sorry. | 0:45:37 | 0:45:39 | |
I'm so sorry, Ivy. | 0:45:41 | 0:45:42 | |
You had to move on. | 0:45:42 | 0:45:44 | |
Don't think that it was some easy, seamless thing. | 0:45:44 | 0:45:49 | |
When I met Yazz, I was a mess. | 0:45:49 | 0:45:51 | |
-And she was... -Don't... You... You don't need to explain. | 0:45:51 | 0:45:54 | |
All those days we spent apart... | 0:45:56 | 0:45:57 | |
Thousands of them. | 0:45:59 | 0:46:01 | |
I don't know what you did, or... | 0:46:05 | 0:46:07 | |
..or who you've met or how you lived. | 0:46:10 | 0:46:12 | |
I wish I did, but I don't. | 0:46:15 | 0:46:17 | |
And... | 0:46:20 | 0:46:22 | |
All my days, years... | 0:46:22 | 0:46:23 | |
All the things that I've done, it's like... | 0:46:24 | 0:46:26 | |
I want to hear about them. | 0:46:30 | 0:46:31 | |
If you want to talk, tell me. | 0:46:32 | 0:46:35 | |
Me and you, we don't really know each other. | 0:46:37 | 0:46:40 | |
Not any more. | 0:46:42 | 0:46:44 | |
But we did. | 0:46:44 | 0:46:46 | |
Yeah, we did. | 0:46:47 | 0:46:48 | |
Craig? | 0:47:12 | 0:47:14 | |
-Chris? -It's late, so mint tea for the girls. | 0:47:28 | 0:47:31 | |
Hey... | 0:47:31 | 0:47:32 | |
Today must've been difficult. | 0:47:36 | 0:47:37 | |
Do you ever feel like a bit of a fraud? | 0:47:47 | 0:47:49 | |
That's not me having a dig at you, it's just... | 0:47:50 | 0:47:52 | |
That year, before Ivy was taken, | 0:47:57 | 0:47:59 | |
when you were always at the practice and I was here... | 0:47:59 | 0:48:02 | |
Yes... | 0:48:03 | 0:48:05 | |
There was someone else. | 0:48:09 | 0:48:11 | |
Not like that, it was never an actual... | 0:48:14 | 0:48:16 | |
..thing. We just... | 0:48:18 | 0:48:20 | |
..talked. | 0:48:22 | 0:48:23 | |
But I needed someone who was mine, who'd listen and make time for me. | 0:48:26 | 0:48:30 | |
Who was he? | 0:48:32 | 0:48:33 | |
Actually, don't. | 0:48:33 | 0:48:35 | |
And then, that day... | 0:48:38 | 0:48:41 | |
I was with him... | 0:48:44 | 0:48:46 | |
And so, ever since then I've known... | 0:48:48 | 0:48:50 | |
..I was being punished. | 0:48:52 | 0:48:54 | |
That's ridiculous, Chris. | 0:48:57 | 0:48:58 | |
Life doesn't work like that. | 0:49:00 | 0:49:02 | |
And you went off with Sofia and I just... | 0:49:02 | 0:49:04 | |
I let you play the bad guy which was a shitty way to behave. | 0:49:06 | 0:49:09 | |
Do you hate me? | 0:49:14 | 0:49:15 | |
Right then. | 0:49:25 | 0:49:26 | |
I'll put the kettle on. | 0:49:34 | 0:49:35 | |
MOBILE RINGS | 0:49:46 | 0:49:48 | |
Hi. Yeah... | 0:49:50 | 0:49:51 | |
SOBBING NEARBY | 0:50:12 | 0:50:14 | |
SHE SOBS | 0:50:31 | 0:50:33 | |
HE SIGHS | 0:51:02 | 0:51:03 | |
IVY, ON RECORDING: 'White was sick on the floor. | 0:52:19 | 0:52:21 | |
'He couldn't look at what he'd done. | 0:52:22 | 0:52:24 | |
'What next? | 0:52:25 | 0:52:27 | |
'He made me pour bleach over the body. | 0:52:30 | 0:52:32 | |
'Then cover his face. | 0:52:32 | 0:52:34 | |
'Wrap it up. | 0:52:36 | 0:52:37 | |
'So he'd never have to see it again.' | 0:52:37 | 0:52:39 | |
We've got a man on the phone claiming to be White. | 0:52:41 | 0:52:44 | |
-The call's coming from...? -Withheld number. | 0:52:44 | 0:52:46 | |
PHONE RINGS, KEYPAD TONE | 0:52:55 | 0:52:57 | |
This is Detective Inspector Carne, can you confirm your name? | 0:52:59 | 0:53:02 | |
'I'm the one you're looking for.' | 0:53:03 | 0:53:05 | |
Yeah, I need to confirm you are who you say you are. | 0:53:05 | 0:53:07 | |
-Your mother's middle name, what was it? -'Valerie.' | 0:53:08 | 0:53:11 | |
Mark, can I speak to Phoebe? | 0:53:13 | 0:53:15 | |
'No, I'll only speak to my girl, Alison.' | 0:53:15 | 0:53:17 | |
LINE DISCONNECTS | 0:53:17 | 0:53:19 | |
Shit, did we get it? | 0:53:19 | 0:53:21 | |
No dice. | 0:53:22 | 0:53:23 | |
Man's given his terms. | 0:53:24 | 0:53:26 | |
TYRES SCREECH | 0:53:31 | 0:53:33 | |
CAR HORN HONKS | 0:53:33 | 0:53:35 | |
-Sorry for the inhumane hour. -ANGUS: -What is it now? | 0:53:43 | 0:53:47 | |
-CARNE: -White called the station. | 0:53:49 | 0:53:51 | |
He'll only talk to you, Ivy. | 0:53:52 | 0:53:54 | |
Assuming he calls back... | 0:54:28 | 0:54:30 | |
-You mean, he might not? -He will. | 0:54:30 | 0:54:33 | |
We've drawn up a list of questions. | 0:54:33 | 0:54:35 | |
They're there to help you know what to ask him, | 0:54:37 | 0:54:39 | |
a sort of script, | 0:54:39 | 0:54:41 | |
so you feel in control. | 0:54:41 | 0:54:43 | |
The objective is twofold, | 0:54:43 | 0:54:45 | |
keep him on the phone as long as possible | 0:54:45 | 0:54:47 | |
and get as much information as you can | 0:54:47 | 0:54:49 | |
on where he's holding Phoebe. | 0:54:49 | 0:54:51 | |
Succeed at both, then we have him. | 0:54:51 | 0:54:53 | |
-Do I have to learn these? -No. | 0:54:53 | 0:54:55 | |
You'll have them in front of you the whole time. | 0:54:55 | 0:54:57 | |
And we'll be right next to you ready to prompt you. | 0:54:57 | 0:55:00 | |
PHONE RINGS | 0:55:02 | 0:55:05 | |
-OPERATOR: 'Line one, Mark White.' -Yeah. | 0:55:05 | 0:55:07 | |
It's him. Withheld number again. | 0:55:13 | 0:55:15 | |
We'll have a trace in three. | 0:55:15 | 0:55:16 | |
-OK, Ivy? -PHONE RINGS | 0:55:21 | 0:55:24 | |
Chief Superintendent Burridge. | 0:55:27 | 0:55:29 | |
'Alison, or I go.' | 0:55:29 | 0:55:31 | |
I... | 0:55:41 | 0:55:43 | |
-I'm here. -'Alison!' | 0:55:44 | 0:55:46 | |
Where... | 0:55:50 | 0:55:52 | |
-Where is Phoebe? -'I've missed you. | 0:55:55 | 0:55:57 | |
'Your voice. | 0:55:58 | 0:55:59 | |
'They found him. | 0:56:03 | 0:56:04 | |
'He was ours.' | 0:56:04 | 0:56:06 | |
Is she hurt? | 0:56:06 | 0:56:08 | |
'She's not important.' | 0:56:08 | 0:56:10 | |
-What do you want? -'We're not alone, I know that. | 0:56:13 | 0:56:16 | |
'I want to be alone. | 0:56:17 | 0:56:18 | |
'Meet me at 3.00. Cabot Circus by the cinema. | 0:56:18 | 0:56:21 | |
'Just us. | 0:56:21 | 0:56:22 | |
'No police.' | 0:56:22 | 0:56:23 | |
Don't agree to anything. | 0:56:25 | 0:56:27 | |
What about Phoebe? | 0:56:30 | 0:56:32 | |
'I said, just us.' | 0:56:32 | 0:56:34 | |
I ca... I can't... | 0:56:34 | 0:56:35 | |
If you don't come, | 0:56:35 | 0:56:37 | |
I'll kill her. | 0:56:37 | 0:56:38 | |
-Did we get him? -One second, sir. | 0:56:43 | 0:56:46 | |
You did really well, Ivy. | 0:56:47 | 0:56:49 | |
We didn't get a trace. | 0:56:58 | 0:57:00 | |
So, you don't know where he is? | 0:57:00 | 0:57:02 | |
Then I have to meet him. | 0:57:07 | 0:57:09 | |
Ivy, I've lost eyes on you. | 0:57:14 | 0:57:16 | |
SIRENS WAIL | 0:57:17 | 0:57:18 | |
-He's not stopping. -He will. -Move the car, Elliott! | 0:57:18 | 0:57:21 | |
HE SOBS | 0:57:21 | 0:57:22 | |
Ivy! | 0:57:25 | 0:57:26 | |
# Don't say nothing No | 0:57:29 | 0:57:32 | |
# I can see when you're lying Oh | 0:57:35 | 0:57:39 | |
# And when you're alone You're so alone | 0:57:42 | 0:57:45 | |
# When you're alone You're so alone... # | 0:57:48 | 0:57:51 |