Rhaglen 8 Ceffylau Cymru


Rhaglen 8

Y bach a'r mawr sydd dan sylw ym mhennod olaf y gyfres - o geffylau gwedd i'r Shetland. The little and large of the equine world - from Shetland ponies to Shire horses. Last in ...


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-In the equine world, some horses

-are big and some are small.

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-In this programme,

-Nia's with the shire horses...

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-..and I'm with the Shetlands.

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-They may be petite,

-but they are big in personality.

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-Welcome to Ceffylau Cymru.

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-This time, we're focusing

-on the macro and the micro.

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-The tame and the mischievous,

-the hard-working and the cautious.

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-The bold and the gentle,

-from Gwynedd in the north...

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-..to Moylegrove in the south.

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-Two extremes of the equine world

-are the stars this week.

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-Dogs are intelligent, but nothing

-is as intelligent as a horse.

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-I'm in awe

-of how much manipulation there is...

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-..when they want something

-or don't want to do anything.

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-There's a feeling of freedom

-when you're with them.

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-There's just you and them,

-and it's always a wonderful feeling.

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-Our journey starts on Anglesey...

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-..with a mother and daughter team,

-Ann and Gwen Holland.

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-One team, but two studs,

-Minmon and Llangeinwen.

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-Daughter Gwen

-once focused on mountain ponies...

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-..but Shetlands

-have now stolen her heart.

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-Why did you decide

-to buy a Shetland?

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-I've kept mountain ponies

-for 20 years.

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-I've bred them, shown them

-and had a lot of fun with them.

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-It's an interesting story, really.

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-There's a lot of politics

-in the Welsh mountain pony world.

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-I tried to diversify a bit

-at the Anglesey Show one year.

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-We entered a veteran class...

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-..with a former Section A pony.

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-While waiting to go into the ring,

-there were a lot of Shetlands about.

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-A lot of lovely-coloured ones.

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-I'd never really looked

-at Shetlands before that.

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-But they were

-so pretty and correct.

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-I remember

-discussing them afterwards.

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-Anyway, later that year,

-we went to Trawsfynydd Show.

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-I took a Welsh pony there.

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-She won the supreme championship.

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-After going home, the way you do...

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-..you try to find out who was

-judging at the show and so on.

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-I went on Facebook

-to find out who it was.

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-I realized that he had

-a big Shetland stud on the island.

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-I just saw a photo

-of a little black and white pony.

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-I just thought, I must have her.

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-You run both studs

-with your mother, Ann.

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-Do you work well together?

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-Yes, 95% of the time,

-we work great together!

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-We have a lot of fun.

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-It's quite interesting.

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-Mam has more of an interest in

-Section B, particularly geldings...

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-..whereas I'm with Section A

-mountain ponies, and now Shetlands.

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-It's nice

-that we have different interests.

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-It's nice to go to shows

-with one of your best friends.

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-Having a bit of fun

-while you're at it.

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-It's not all

-about winning and losing.

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-You need to enjoy it and stop

-somewhere to eat on the way home.

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-Doing something different,

-creating a story for every show.

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-Gwen's first Shetland

-was Edern Cain.

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-She has already enjoyed

-a lot of success.

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-A reserve championship and second in

-Llanelwedd and the Anglesey Show...

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-..and first place

-at smaller shows across Wales.

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-What's so special about her?

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-I look at her

-as I would any other horse.

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-She has a sweet head.

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-I look at the way she stands.

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-How she moves.

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-You're used to mountain ponies...

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-..but you've clearly

-taken a fancy to Shetlands now.

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-Do you deal with them differently?

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-They're quite similar, really.

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-The Shetlands I have

-are fairly highly strung...

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-..as are my Section As,

-so they are similar.

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-These are much more mischievous.

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-If they don't want to be caught

-on the field, they won't be.

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-It can be quite a performance.

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-As for showing them...

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-..the main feature

-is that their hair is much longer.

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-Their coat is made up of different

-layers, especially in winter.

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-So, preparing them is difficult?

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-So, preparing them is difficult?

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-Yes, extremely difficult.

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-The second Shetland Gwen bought

-was Edern Cadog.

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-A small horse

-with a big personality...

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-..and very mischievous.

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-Cadog is full of love

-and full of mischief.

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-He's quite a character,

-and he makes me laugh a lot.

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-He bites a bit more

-than I'd like...

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-..but we are working on that,

-so we'll see how he is.

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-But we're really pleased

-with how he has developed.

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-People do tend to prefer

-one over the other.

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-For me, it's Cain every time,

-but lots of people prefer Cadog.

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-That's interesting.

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-They're extremely similar,

-but there are a few differences.

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-I can pinpoint one thing.

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-I thought his markings

-would do better in colour classes...

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-..because both sides

-are fairly similar.

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-But she has done better, despite

-both sides being nothing alike.

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-You can never tell.

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-It's a matter of judges' own tastes.

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-It's a matter of judges' own tastes.

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-A judge's taste, exactly.

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-The Shetlands have made me feel

-like I did when I was ten.

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-When I got Augusta, my first pony,

-I lost my head completely.

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-The same happened when Atlanta,

-her daughter, was born.

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-It was just the best feeling ever.

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-Nothing else mattered.

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-When Cain came along,

-and I started to show her...

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-..I look forward to coming home

-from work and seeing them.

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-That's something you lose

-as you get older.

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-You even have fun

-when mucking out the Shetlands.

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-They try to bite everything,

-tip everything over.

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-You put them out on the field

-and they refuse to be caught.

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-You spend half the time laughing.

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-What happens at a show

-soon becomes much less important.

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-As well as seeing him at home...

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-..we caught up with Cadog

-competing at Trawsfynydd Show.

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-I've competed here

-since I was twelve.

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-I used to compete

-with mountain ponies.

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-I stopped coming here

-when I went away to university.

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-I started coming again

-five years ago.

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-Two years ago, I won

-the supreme championship here...

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-..with a mountain pony,

-Rhydyllech Golden Sundae.

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-Last year, I was a judge here.

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-It's one of those places

-that are very close to my heart.

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-It's the Shetland's first time here.

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-Don't. Don't!

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-Don't bite!

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-Don't! You don't want

-hoof oil in your mouth.

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-He's a yearling colt,

-so I don't expect much difference...

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-..between him

-and a yearling pony or cob.

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-They're naughty at that age.

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-By the time he's two,

-I hope he'll be better behaved.

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-But he probably won't be great

-until he's four.

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-Don't break everything!

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-Are you being naughty?

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-Are you being naughty?

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-I'd say he is, Gwen.

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-You're playing up

-in front of people!

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-Don't even think of escaping!

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-He loves escaping

-every chance he gets!

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-And he's the right size

-to do it as well.

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-We need eyes

-in the back of our heads.

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-This is a dangerous time.

-He likes to take chunks of hair.

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-His name's Cadog,

-but we call him King Cadoogie!

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-And a few other things

-when he bites.

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-I call him Crocodile.

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-Don't bite.

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-Television or not,

-you'll get a slap.

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-Cadog is almost ready.

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-All that's left

-is to rein in his excitement.

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-Don't bite!

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-Gwen will show him in the class

-for colts and fillies under three.

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-Ann is on hand to commentate.

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-They've brought them out

-and are leading them around.

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-The judge is looking at them again,

-and he's picked out the skewbald.

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-Cadog has been picked out as well.

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-He clearly impressed the judges

-as he was walking around.

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-He's up to second place,

-and I'm sure Gwen will be pleased.

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-She'll know that it's not

-down to his conformation.

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-He's in second place

-because of his behaviour.

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-Cadog was a bit of a naughty boy,

-so he only deserved second place.

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-It's a shame, but so be it.

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-He does really well when he behaves.

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-When he doesn't,

-that's what happens.

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-I'm OK. I'm happy enough.

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-I enjoy local shows

-as much as the national shows.

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-All contests are competitive.

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-You can't predict the standard

-at any show.

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-Smaller shows will sometimes have

-more entries and higher standards.

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-But I enjoy them all.

-A competition is a competition.

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-There are some 4,000 tigers

-and 5,000 black rhinos in the world.

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-But there are only

-about 1,500 shire horses.

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-Four of them are here,

-in Pembrokeshire.

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-At the turn of the last century,

-before the Second World War...

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-..there were over a million

-shire horses in Britain alone.

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-But things changed

-with the onset of the tractor.

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-During the 1960s, thousands

-were killed for their meat.

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-Numbers are now slowly increasing...

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-..thanks to enthusiasts like John

-Fletcher and his daughter, Stacy.

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-She competes across the country

-with her horse Black Velvet, or BV.

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-All the practice and preparation

-happens here, at Penrallt Uchaf.

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-This year, you competed

-at the Horse Of The Year Show.

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-Tell me about that.

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-It was nerve-racking, really.

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-I'd never been there

-either to watch or to compete.

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-I won a qualifier

-at my first attempt.

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-We went there

-and tried to enjoy it.

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-It was difficult,

-because I was so nervous.

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-BV went well,

-and I was happy with seventh.

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-Is that a fairly new event at HOYS?

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-Is that a fairly new event at HOYS?

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-Yes, that was the first time.

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-I'm sure it'll go

-from strength to strength.

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-Is riding a shire horse

-different to riding other horses?

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-It's more slow-motion, maybe.

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-There's less chance

-of falling off one of the big ones.

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-They have so much power.

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-I can't describe it, really.

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-There's so much horse beneath you.

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-It feels completely different.

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-Do you do anything with the horses

-apart from riding them?

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-I often help Dad with show

-demonstrations or tugs of war.

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-We take carts out, we do weddings.

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-We plough, we do funerals.

-Lots of events.

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-So there's a variety of activities

-you can do with them.

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-We try to demonstrate

-that they can do anything.

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-What happens during any year?

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-It usually starts with ploughing.

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-Dad goes out to compete locally.

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-In March, it's the National

-Shire Horse Show up in Stafford.

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-That's a great show

-for us as a family.

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-Then, more shows and weddings...

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-..and back to ploughing again

-in the autumn.

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-Do you look forward to competing

-in the show in March?

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-It's the highlight of the year

-for me, Dad and my cousin, Hayley.

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-We really enjoy competing there.

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-The best of the best compete there.

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-John is the boss.

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-He focuses on driving carts

-for wedding and funerals.

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-He's also an old hand at ploughing

-with these gentle giants.

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-I get a lot of enjoyment

-working with these horses every day.

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-Over the years, I've had

-lots of memorable experiences.

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-But the ones that stand out...

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-..are winning

-the Welsh Ploughing Championship...

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-..being chosen to represent Wales

-at the European Championships...

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-..and one of the weddings

-that stands out...

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-..was Cerys Matthews's wedding

-in Cardiff.

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-I'm sure your father is happy

-to see you taking an interest...

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-..and taking part

-in more modern activities.

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-I think he enjoys

-watching me compete with BV.

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-He cries a lot when we do compete!

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-It's nice for him to see

-one of his horses doing well.

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-What's he like as a boss?

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-What's he like as a boss?

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-He's OK.

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-The older I get,

-the more he listens to me.

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-We used to argue a lot,

-but it's getting better.

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-We do work quite well together.

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-The shire horses

-are a family business.

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-John's granddaughters

-help from time to time...

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-..including the youngest, Maia.

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-Do you enjoy riding, Maia?

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-Do you enjoy riding, Maia?

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-Yes.

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-Even the big horses?

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-Even the big horses?

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-Yes.

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-Isn't he a bit too big for you?

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-Isn't he a bit too big for you?

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-No.

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-Not at all?

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-Not at all?

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-No.

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-Stacy, the original plan...

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-..was to follow you

-to the show in Stafford.

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-Unfortunately, that didn't happen.

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-Sadly, a few days before the show,

-BV fell ill with a virus.

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-We decided to keep all the horses

-at home until she was better.

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-Why did you withdraw all the horses?

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-Why did you withdraw all the horses?

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-We weren't sure what was wrong.

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-We decided not to risk taking them

-such a long way from home.

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-Is she better now?

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-Is she better now?

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-She's recovering slowly.

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-It was an important event for you

-because it was a HOYS qualifier.

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-We've missed the first qualifier...

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-..but we hope to compete at the

-Three Counties or Cheshire in June.

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-Good luck to you.

-I hope you win next time.

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-Despite Stacy's disappointment,

-life goes on.

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-There's lots of training to do

-in the fields and the arena.

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-John is an expert ploughman.

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-But the harrow is a good way

-to train the young horse, Jack.

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-What is the purpose of harrowing?

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-It breaks up old pasture,

-but we use it to train horses.

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-We start off with a single horse

-and a small harrow...

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-..and work up to this heavy harrow

-when they're older and stronger.

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-How long does it take

-to train a horse to this standard?

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-Every horse is different.

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-It's easier if they're younger

-and they've seen a lot at shows.

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-It they're older, it takes longer

-to show them everything.

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-Anything from a month to a year.

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-How does this training

-help prepare for weddings?

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-Practising here with Dad

-is important.

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-They might have to walk on a bit...

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-..then stand still

-for ten minutes, maybe...

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-..then move on again.

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-It teaches them good manners.

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-They have to listen to Dad,

-not do what they want to do.

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-Is cornering

-as complicated as it looks?

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-Dad works a lot on this.

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-When he goes ploughing, and he has

-to turn at the end of a furrow...

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-..space is at a premium.

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-Being able to walk

-with their legs crossing is vital.

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-Can you do this work too?

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-I can, but they usually behave

-a lot better for Dad than for me.

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-A bit more practice, perhaps?

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-Maybe, if Dad lets me.

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-Whoa!

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-As well as the shire horses...

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-..John loves buying, selling

-and restoring carriages...

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-..and old farm equipment.

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-Stacy, these carriages are superb.

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-Tell us a little about them.

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-OK, this is a glass landau.

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-It was made in Poland,

-especially for us.

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-It's a lot bigger,

-designed for use by shire horses.

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-They're usually only this high,

-but this one is really big.

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-What is this used for?

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-This is for weddings.

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-This is for weddings.

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-It looks very fancy.

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-Why did you need a bigger one?

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-The horses would look too big

-drawing a traditional carriage.

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-This way,

-everything is in proportion.

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-What about this one?

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-This is a brewery dray.

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-It was made circa 1905, I think.

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-The Newcastle Brewery used it

-to deliver beer locally up there.

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-And what's that other cart?

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-And what's that other cart?

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-It's a Shropshire boat wagon.

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-It's more like a hay wagon.

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-That was made in the early 1900s.

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-We use it for shows

-and demonstrations.

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-It's a traditional wagon.

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-They must be great to see at a show.

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-It does look really good

-when it's drawn by a pair of horses.

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-It really catches the eye.

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-Clearly, Dad looks after these.

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-Clearly, Dad looks after these.

-

-Yes, they're his pride and joy.

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-There are many ploughs

-in the shed as well.

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-Dad ploughs often in the autumn...

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-..and also in the spring.

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-He competes over Wales and Britain.

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-It's a wonder that he finds the time

-to do all that he does.

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-Ploughing is hard work

-but at the end of the day...

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-..it gives him great pleasure

-to see what he has done.

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-Unfortunately, it's a dying art,

-but Dad tries to keep it going.

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-Anyone who has a go

-while he's ploughing...

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-..soon finds out how hard it is.

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-Have you ever tried?

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-Have you ever tried?

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-No, it's too difficult for me!

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-Stacy, I hear that you train

-the horses in a particular spot.

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-We often go down to Poppit Sands,

-a local beach, to train them.

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-Is there a reason for that?

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-It helps with their legs,

-because it cleans the feathers.

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-They also enjoy it there.

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-They mean a lot to me.

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-I spend a lot of time with them,

-and I really enjoy shire horses.

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-They may be giants,

-but they're also gentle.

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-Do shire horses stand out

-a lot more than other horses?

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-Definitely.

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-You think they're so strong,

-but they're so nice.

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-Whatever you do,

-they'll help you out.

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-They're gentle giants.

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-Horses have played a part in my life

-since I was very young.

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-I get a lot of pleasure

-keeping and working shire horses.

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-But I also get pleasure...

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-..watching others

-enjoying their company.

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Y bach a'r mawr sydd dan sylw ym mhennod olaf y gyfres - o geffylau gwedd i'r Shetland. The little and large of the equine world - from Shetland ponies to Shire horses. Last in series.