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-Here's another example of man's

-first craft - a fine quickset hedge.

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-The trimmings are stacked

-for burning.

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-I'm on the way from Llanerfyl to

-Talerddig through Cwm Nant yr Eira.

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-It's one of the strongholds of the

-Welsh language in Montgomeryshire.

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-JANUARY 2002

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-# Tonight, there are owls

-at Dol y Garreg Wen,

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-# Grass covers the farmyard

-and the walls are grey with lichen,

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-# And sheets of cottongrass

-spread their cover over the garden.

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-It's lovely to have some sunshine -

-even little lambs like sunshine.

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-I'm at Sychtyn Farm

-in Cwm Nant yr Eira...

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-..the home of the Vaughans,

-an old-established family.

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-John, you have

-very fine cattle here.

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-You must have some good bulls.

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-I buy them locally,

-in Montgomeryshire.

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-I bought one bull from a farmer in

-Caersws and another from Y Foel.

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-Are you fattening them all?

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-Are you fattening them all?

-

-Yes, we've been doing it for years.

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-It stood us in good stead last year.

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-You have some old breed cattle...

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-..but you've mostly gone for Lims

-and cross-breeds.

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-That's right.

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-It became difficult

-to get hold of white-headed cattle.

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-We keep Lims now.

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-It's been a while since I saw

-so many cattle in one shed.

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-You've put slats down.

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-We were buying a lot of straw, so

-when we were planning this shed...

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-..we decided

-that slats would be useful.

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-Of course -

-straw costs a lot these days.

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-It's very dear.

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-The cattle seem happy

-and they're clean.

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-I think it'll catch on.

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-There's less work, too.

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-You've got excellent silage,

-for a hill farm.

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-We try to look after our grassland,

-as farmers do in valley farms.

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-We treat it as a crop.

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-If you look after your crop,

-you'll get good grass.

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-We know about your services

-to agriculture.

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-You've done a lot of work

-with agricultural societies.

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-And you've been

-to New Zealand recently.

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-I learned a few things

-when I was out there.

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-Agriculture in New Zealand

-had a tough period in the '80s.

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-Hundreds of people left the land.

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-We're going through

-a difficult period now.

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-Things have changed completely

-in New Zealand by now.

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-Agriculture is flourishing because

-the New Zealand dollar is low.

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-Here, the pound is too high.

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-But the situation will change.

-It will get better.

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-I have a lot of faith

-in the industry.

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-The New Zealand government...

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-..has a favourable attitude

-towards agriculture.

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-This is a phase we're going through.

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-This is a phase we're going through.

-

-That'll cheer up a lot of farmers.

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-I know you've studied the subject.

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-We've visited many local farms.

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-I understand that your family,

-some years ago...

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-..bred one of the most famous

-shire mares in Britain.

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-Yes, that's right.

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-The mare was the British champion

-three years running.

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-Here she is - Erfyl Lady Grey.

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-She'd look at home

-on any show ground today.

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-John's a very astute farmer,

-Beryl...

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-..to choose a wife

-who's worked in a bank!

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-Your financial knowledge must help.

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-That's what you think, Dai!

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-Yes, I've been in charge of a bank.

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-You moved from Meirionnydd

-to a lovely place.

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-Of course - Cwm Nant yr Eira

-is a lovely part of Montgomeryshire.

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-I settled down well.

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-But it's very similar

-to Meirionnydd.

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-There are plenty

-of cultural activities around here.

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-I've always been very interested

-in recitation.

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-I don't recite much nowadays,

-but I do some adjudicating.

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-I've never seen a woman

-who can't recite!

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-I coach the Dyffryn Banw

-recitation party.

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-We enjoy competing.

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-I also belong

-to the Cerdd Dant choir.

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-It's nice to see these things

-carrying on.

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-Children are also getting involved.

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-Children are also getting involved.

-

-We hope so.

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-We're very lucky

-in this part of Montgomeryshire...

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-..to have the Cwmni Ieuenctid

-Maldwyn theatre group.

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-The National Eisteddfod

-is coming here in 2003...

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-..so we hope the theatre group

-will perform another musical.

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-You'll have to give up

-your travelling...

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-..when the Eisteddfod comes here.

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-You've visited many countries

-recently.

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-I was on the Missionary Board

-of the Presbyterian Church of Wales.

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-Now I'm the treasurer for Wales.

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-I've been involved

-with the Council for World Mission.

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-It gave me the chance to see...

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-..how people live

-in other parts of the world.

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-We've got a lot to be grateful for

-in Wales.

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-Poverty, HIV and AIDS has blighted

-a part of Africa I visited recently.

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-You're a treasurer,

-so you're in charge of money again!

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-Yes, I enjoy being a treasurer,

-playing with other people's money!

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-What was the last country

-you visited?

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-What was the last country

-you visited?

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-Zambia.

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-I flew out to Nairobi

-then headed down to Harare first...

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-..before going up to Lusaka.

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-I stayed in the countryside.

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-There were no luxuries there,

-we lived simply.

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-I ate all kinds of things.

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-I even ate caterpillars.

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-I even ate caterpillars.

-

-Good gracious!

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-I don't eat caterpillars,

-but I have a weight problem!

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-Go on!

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-I'm at Moel Ddolwen Farm,

-David Jones's home.

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-I don't know what's happening

-today...

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-..but if I wanted a JCB,

-I could find one here.

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-I've never seen so many

-yellow tractors on a farm.

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-I've usually got 12 to 15 of them

-around the place.

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-Do you sell them, David?

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-Yes, I usually sell them locally.

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-Some of them go farther away.

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-They're very handy machines.

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-Yes, they're handy.

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-Many farmers don't want to pay

-a lot of money for one.

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-They want one for fiddly jobs.

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-Cutting a ditch or clearing scrub.

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-Fiddly jobs like that.

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-They're useful

-for burying dead sheep, too.

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-Just hope

-there aren't too many of those!

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-Making money's hard enough as it is!

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-How did you get into this?

-Did you have your own JCB?

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-I'd bought a digger

-and kept it for about five years.

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-Then it started to get a bit old,

-so I bought another one...

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-..and I advertised the old one

-in the paper.

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-I had lots of enquiries,

-and it sold immediately.

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-Then I bought another one.

-We sell them on.

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-You never know how many people

-might be interested.

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-You never know how many people

-might be interested.

-

-Someone's bound to be interested.

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-It's something different to do.

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-It's something different to do.

-

-Yes, it is.

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-The way farming is these days,

-you need another interest.

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-Farming doesn't give you

-much encouragement these days.

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-Are these Welsh crosses, David?

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-Are these Welsh crosses, David?

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-Yes, most of them.

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-Some of them are bred

-from Welsh mules.

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-Do you dock their tails?

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-Do you dock their tails?

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-No, I don't.

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-I used to dock them all.

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-They're growing very well.

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-You've got a lot of cattle, too.

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-Yes - too many, to be honest.

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-They cost a lot to keep.

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-Straw is so expensive this year.

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-The animals' bedding

-costs more than their food.

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-That's terribly wrong, isn't it?

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-This is Hafod Farm,

-Cwm Nant yr Eira...

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-..where Wally and Elen Jones

-and their daughter, Mari, live.

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-Wally's family has lived at Hafod

-for nearly 100 years.

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-That's a long time!

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-Wally's a good farmer.

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-It's rough up here, Wally!

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-It's rough up here!

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-It's now the end of January -

-when did you start feeding them?

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-I've only just started -

-last weekend.

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-They won't be lambing

-until the end of March.

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-You're giving them sugar beet.

-Do you give them silage?

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-I don't use it at all, because

-it causes health problems.

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-Sugar beet's better for them.

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-They're looking quite well

-and they had a good autumn.

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-But it's easy to overfeed them.

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-I had problems last year, too.

-Silage can be so bulky.

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-And the sheep become greedy.

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-Sheep eat like camels nowadays!

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-Sheep eat like camels nowadays!

-

-It's like feeding pigs.

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-When does winter begin up here?

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-Autumn must come early.

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-Yes. The cattle are all in

-by the third week of October.

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-The store cattle are in before then.

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-It's a problem if the silage

-runs out before the end of May.

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-So it's a long winter.

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-They need a lot of feeding

-so I need plenty of fodder.

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-You're familiar with this land

-from birth.

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-Yes. If you're born in a place,

-you get to know it.

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-Parts of it seem steep or wet

-or muddy, but I'm used to it.

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-It would take atrocious weather

-to drive you from here!

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-It would!

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-There used to be many more farms

-up here.

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-Yes, lots of small farms.

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-They had no hope of surviving

-through the 1920s and '30s.

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-But there was some panic in this

-valley in the early '70s, too.

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-The Severn Trent water board...

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-..realised there were only two

-landowners in this area...

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-..Sir Watkin and Dad.

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-They had plans to drown the valley.

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-More water was needed

-for an increasing population.

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-But it's not a very long valley.

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-They decided to extend

-Craig Goch reservoir instead.

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-It's a lovely valley.

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-Thank goodness it wasn't drowned.

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-So much would have been lost -

-culture and everything.

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-We've improved the land a lot.

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-It would have been a shame.

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-MELODY ON PIANO

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-How old are you, Mari?

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-How old are you, Mari?

-

-Seven.

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-You play well.

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-Do you like playing the piano?

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-Do you like playing the piano?

-

-A little.

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-I see.

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-What school do you go to?

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-What school do you go to?

-

-Ysgol Llanerfyl.

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-Do you like school?

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-Do you like helping Dad?

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-But I can't go out in the rain.

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-No, you wouldn't want to.

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-Have you been having

-piano lessons for long?

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-Have you been having

-piano lessons for long?

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-Yes.

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-Do you go once a week?

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-On Tuesday, and the next Tuesday.

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-You go every Tuesday?

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-After school on Tuesday evening?

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-Yes.

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-Yes.

-

-You're hungry when you get home.

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-I eat before I go.

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-Oh, Dai was wrong!

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-Congratulations, you play well.

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-She's doing well, Elen.

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-She's doing well, Elen.

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-She has to practise quite a lot.

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-But she's coming along.

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-What do all the young wives

-in the valley do?

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-I don't have any spare time at all.

-There's always something.

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-There's the Cerdd Dant party.

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-There's the Cerdd Dant party.

-

-The Cerdd Dant choir, yes.

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-I've been in that since I married.

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-Then there's the hall.

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-I'm on the hall committee.

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-We raise money for that.

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-The Eisteddfod is coming here,

-and I'm on that committee.

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-The school has lots of activities.

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-Gwerinos are playing here this week.

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-You're mother's very busy, Mari.

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-Come on, boy!

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-.

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-# Over the bleak Cwmderwen bog,

-the cottongrass is a white shroud,

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-# And two hayricks look like two

-eyes which have no light in them,

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-# And the stars are a myriad candles

-on the altars of the hill. #

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-The family farm

-is very important in Wales.

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-Here's a perfect example

-of a family farm.

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-William Jones and his wife

-live at Dolwen Isaf.

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-Mrs Jones was born and raised here.

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-Their son, Tom, and his wife,

-Delyth, live at Dolwen Uchaf.

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-They have two daughters,

-Mirain and Elliw.

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-We're sitting comfortably

-in Dolwen Isaf this morning.

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-But you were born and raised

-in Dolwen Uchaf.

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-But you were born and raised

-in Dolwen Uchaf.

-

-Yes.

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-The two places share the farmyard.

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-Yes, they do,

-but we're out of sight here.

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-It's a beautifully warm house,

-despite being so high up.

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-Yes, it's very warm.

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-Did you go to school from here?

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-Yes, to Hafod school.

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-How many children lived

-at Dolwen Uchaf and Dolwen Isaf?

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-There were seven here

-and eight in Dolwen Uchaf.

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-So there were 15 children

-playing around here?

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-That's right.

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-We had a lot of fun.

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-Your son, Tom,

-now farms at Dolwen Uchaf.

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-You and William Jones have retired.

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-But everything's

-still just around the corner.

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-You're on hand

-without being in the middle of it.

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-You still enjoy

-taking a look at the animals?

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-Yes, indeed. I'm nosing around!

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-Things have changed.

-The cattle are all inside now.

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-Do you remember them being outside?

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-Do you remember them being outside?

-

-Yes, I do.

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-We kept them outside.

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-This place is very open

-to the weather.

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-Very open.

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-Wind and rain.

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-The winters are very long here.

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-Wally Hafod told me

-winter lasts from October to May.

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-You have to store a lot of fodder.

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-You have to store a lot of fodder.

-

-Yes.

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-What did you do years ago?

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-You didn't produce as much

-as you do today.

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-You didn't produce as much

-as you do today.

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-We kept fewer animals.

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-You live in a lovely place.

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-I don't know about that.

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-I don't know about that.

-

-It's a nice farm.

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-I don't know about that.

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-We're quite happy here,

-always have been.

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-What's going on, Tom?

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-We're scanning the mule sheep.

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-Will they be brought inside

-afterwards?

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-Yes. Most of the mules

-are in already.

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-There are about 50 mules here.

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-Places like this

-have their own way of life.

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-It's not an easy place to farm.

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-It's not an easy place to farm.

-

-No, it isn't.

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-Most of our land

-is very heavy and wet.

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-You drain it and dry it out

-and it's fine for a few years.

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-But it takes a lot of work.

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-It has to be fertilised.

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-It has to be fertilised.

-

-Yes, a lot.

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-It's a job to earn enough

-to feed the land.

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-Our pockets are too small!

-That's the trouble!

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-But they're big enough

-for what we get!

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-I won't keep you!

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-How old are the girls, Delyth?

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-How old are the girls, Delyth?

-

-Mirain's four and Elliw's two.

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-They both look mischievous.

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-I bet they get up to a lot.

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-I bet they get up to a lot.

-

-They're very talkative.

0:21:530:21:55

-Do they go to school in Llanerfyl?

0:21:550:21:56

-Do they go to school in Llanerfyl?

-

-Yes, Mirain goes to Llanerfyl.

0:21:560:21:59

-And you're a farmer's daughter.

0:21:590:22:00

-And you're a farmer's daughter.

-

-Yes.

0:22:000:22:01

-I'm from the Llanbrynmair area,

-originally.

0:22:020:22:03

-I'm from the Llanbrynmair area,

-originally.

-

-You haven't moved far.

0:22:030:22:05

-Just across Cwm Talerddig.

0:22:050:22:08

-Which of you likes sheep?

0:22:080:22:10

-You like sheep?

0:22:100:22:12

-Do you like sheep, Elliw?

0:22:120:22:14

-Or do you like cattle?

0:22:150:22:16

-Or do you like cattle?

-

-No.

0:22:160:22:17

-What do you like?

0:22:170:22:18

-What do you like?

-

-A little lamb.

0:22:180:22:20

-A little lamb!

0:22:200:22:21

-There'll be more lambs soon.

0:22:230:22:25

-No.

0:22:270:22:28

-You speak well!

0:22:280:22:30

-You speak well!

-

-Yes!

0:22:300:22:31

-Yes!

0:22:310:22:33

-This wet weather

-makes everything feel so cold...

0:22:470:22:51

-..especially if you follow

-this twisting, turning river.

0:22:510:22:56

-I'm at Dolau Farm now.

0:22:560:22:59

-Wyn and Bronwen Roberts and their

-sons Gwyndaf and Geraint live here.

0:22:590:23:05

-They keep sheep and beef cattle.

0:23:050:23:08

-Strong cattle, Geraint.

0:23:160:23:18

-Strong cattle, Geraint.

-

-They're nothing special.

0:23:180:23:20

-Are these pure-bred?

0:23:200:23:22

-Are these pure-bred?

-

-Yes, pure-bred.

0:23:220:23:23

-When did you start keeping these?

0:23:240:23:25

-When did you start keeping these?

-

-We bought the first heifer

-three or four years ago.

0:23:250:23:30

-She did well,

-so we bought a few more.

0:23:300:23:34

-It won't be long

-before you'll have bulls to sell.

0:23:350:23:39

-The first calf

-has just been registered.

0:23:390:23:43

-Will you increase the herd

-or wait and see how these do?

0:23:440:23:48

-I intend to keep it

-as a suckler herd.

0:23:490:23:52

-Pure-bred cattle.

0:23:520:23:54

-How do they compare

-with cross-bred cattle?

0:23:550:23:58

-Do they need more food?

0:23:580:24:00

-Do they need more food?

-

-Less food than Holstein crosses.

0:24:000:24:03

-They're not as good as Welsh Blacks,

-but they're hard to come by.

0:24:030:24:09

-Are they fairly placid cattle?

0:24:100:24:12

-Yes, very placid.

0:24:130:24:14

-They're quite hardy,

-from the French mountains.

0:24:150:24:17

-They're quite hardy,

-from the French mountains.

-

-So they say.

0:24:170:24:19

-What's going on

-with the sheep today?

0:24:270:24:29

-What's going on

-with the sheep today?

-

-I'm giving them copper.

0:24:290:24:31

-You have trouble

-with the lambs, do you?

0:24:310:24:33

-You have trouble

-with the lambs, do you?

-

-We've had trouble in past years.

0:24:330:24:36

-We've had a few with swayback.

0:24:360:24:39

-So we give them copper every year.

0:24:390:24:42

-Do you sow rape?

0:24:430:24:45

-Very little rape.

0:24:460:24:48

-We try to sow fresh grass

-every year.

0:24:480:24:51

-That helps.

0:24:510:24:53

-Do you buy your rams in Llanidloes?

0:24:530:24:55

-Do you buy your rams in Llanidloes?

-

-Yes, in Llanidloes.

0:24:550:24:57

-At the market.

0:24:570:24:59

-It's been a bad year.

0:24:590:25:00

-It's been a bad year.

-

-Yes, it has.

0:25:000:25:01

-Just hope it doesn't come back.

0:25:010:25:04

-We can cope with one year of it,

-but not another.

0:25:040:25:07

-Where will these be going?

0:25:070:25:08

-Where will these be going?

-

-Outside, back to the mountain.

0:25:080:25:10

-I'll hold this for you.

0:25:110:25:13

-Come here, boy.

0:25:130:25:15

-Lie down, Toss.

0:25:180:25:20

-Lie down.

0:25:230:25:25

-How many grandchildren do you have?

0:25:320:25:34

-How many grandchildren do you have?

-

-Just this one. She's special!

0:25:340:25:37

-I should think so!

0:25:380:25:39

-It isn't long

-since the boys were small.

0:25:400:25:43

-It doesn't seem long.

0:25:430:25:45

-Do you help out on the farm?

0:25:450:25:48

-Not so much these days,

-but before the boys left school.

0:25:490:25:54

-There was only Wyn and me.

0:25:540:25:57

-I'd help with the shearing

-and the dipping.

0:25:570:26:01

-You knew what had to be done.

0:26:020:26:04

-You knew what had to be done.

-

-Yes.

0:26:040:26:05

-Do you have a driving licence?

0:26:050:26:06

-Do you have a driving licence?

-

-Yes.

0:26:060:26:08

-You can come and go as you please.

0:26:080:26:09

-You can come and go as you please.

-

-Yes, otherwise

-this would be like a jail!

0:26:090:26:13

-What goes on during the year?

0:26:140:26:17

-Though it's been a bad year.

0:26:170:26:19

-There's the chapel in summer.

0:26:200:26:22

-Yes, and Welshpool on Monday, though

-it hasn't been held this year.

0:26:230:26:29

-Did the farmers' wives

-go to Welshpool on Mondays?

0:26:290:26:31

-Did the farmers' wives

-go to Welshpool on Mondays?

-

-The men went to the sale...

0:26:310:26:34

-..and we women went shopping.

0:26:340:26:37

-We'd meet up for a chat.

0:26:370:26:39

-The little one

-enjoys being with you.

0:26:400:26:43

-You don't often see cattle

-in a cowshed these days.

0:26:510:26:54

-You don't often see cattle

-in a cowshed these days.

-

-No, we keep them in big sheds now.

0:26:540:26:57

-But straw is expensive.

0:26:580:27:00

-But straw is expensive.

-

-That's the trouble, these days.

0:27:000:27:02

-Are you from Dolau, Wyn?

0:27:030:27:05

-No.

0:27:050:27:06

-I came here in 1936.

0:27:090:27:10

-That's before I was born.

0:27:110:27:12

-That's before I was born.

-

-I thought it might be!

0:27:120:27:14

-I was eight and a half at the time.

0:27:140:27:17

-Where did you come from?

0:27:180:27:19

-Where did you come from?

-

-From Llanwddyn.

0:27:190:27:21

-Yes, Llanwddyn.

0:27:220:27:23

-Yes, Llanwddyn.

-

-A good place!

0:27:230:27:24

-But a terrible place for gnats!

0:27:240:27:26

-But a terrible place for gnats!

-

-Yes, because

-there are so many trees there.

0:27:260:27:30

-You have some land down the road.

0:27:300:27:32

-You have some land down the road.

-

-It's up the valley.

0:27:320:27:34

-That shows you how much I know!

0:27:340:27:37

-Cwm Nant yr Eira is quite flat.

0:27:370:27:40

-Shall we go down?

0:27:410:27:43

-You've got plenty of land here.

0:27:500:27:52

-That's how it is.

0:27:520:27:54

-You've improved the land up there.

0:27:550:27:56

-You've improved the land up there.

-

-Yes, we've done it all.

0:27:560:27:58

-It's made a difference.

0:28:020:28:03

-It's made a difference.

-

-Over the past 20 to 40 years.

0:28:030:28:06

-This is a very twisty river.

-What's it called?

0:28:070:28:10

-Afon Gam - 'crooked river'.

0:28:110:28:12

-Afon Gam - 'crooked river'.

-

-Really?!

0:28:120:28:14

-Seriously?

0:28:150:28:16

-Seriously?

-

-Yes, seriously!

0:28:160:28:17

-It's crooked along its whole length.

0:28:180:28:20

-It's crooked along its whole length.

-

-Very crooked!

0:28:200:28:21

-How far is this land

-from Dolau Farm?

0:28:220:28:26

-Three miles.

0:28:270:28:28

-And we're up the valley.

0:28:290:28:30

-And we're up the valley.

-

-That's right.

0:28:300:28:31

-There's a good road here.

0:28:320:28:32

-There's a good road here.

-

-There is, now.

0:28:320:28:34

-It's a new road,

-built in 1966, I think.

0:28:340:28:38

-Really?

0:28:390:28:40

-So there wasn't a road here before?

0:28:400:28:42

-So there wasn't a road here before?

-

-No, nothing.

0:28:420:28:44

-You couldn't come

-from Talerddig to Llanerfyl?

0:28:440:28:46

-You couldn't come

-from Talerddig to Llanerfyl?

-

-No.

0:28:460:28:48

-There wasn't even a track here.

0:28:490:28:52

-There was a bridleway

-going across there.

0:28:530:28:56

-But not to Llanerfyl.

0:28:580:28:59

-It's quite a long way.

0:29:000:29:02

-It's three miles by the new road.

0:29:020:29:05

-About a mile, maybe more,

-crosses our land.

0:29:080:29:15

-It's made the journey shorter

-for you.

0:29:150:29:18

-It has indeed.

0:29:190:29:20

-I used to go by pony.

0:29:210:29:23

-Most of the time.

0:29:240:29:26

-I used to walk here, in 1947,

-every morning...

0:29:260:29:31

-..with a sack of hay on my back,

-for the sheep.

0:29:330:29:37

-Things have changed a lot.

0:29:390:29:40

-Things have changed a lot.

-

-Things have changed.

0:29:400:29:42

-This bridge crosses

-the crooked river.

0:29:560:29:58

-I'm on my way

-to Dolau Ceimion Farm...

0:29:590:30:02

-..where Dafydd Huw and Mrs Owen live

0:30:020:30:05

-Where you have a crooked river,

-you must have crooked meadows!

0:30:060:30:11

-Dafydd Huw, you're not originally

-from Cwm Nant yr Eira.

0:30:170:30:22

-No, I was raised

-in Cwm Llanfihangel y Pennant.

0:30:220:30:26

-It's quite a step

-from there to here

0:30:280:30:31

-It's quite a step

-from there to here

-

-Yes, it was.

0:30:310:30:32

-Since when have you been here?

0:30:330:30:35

-Since '47, after that snowy winter.

0:30:360:30:40

-You've seen the valley change.

0:30:410:30:43

-You've seen the valley change.

-

-Yes, a lot.

0:30:430:30:44

-Today, your daughter

-and son-in-law run the farm.

0:30:440:30:49

-Today, your daughter

-and son-in-law run the farm.

-

-Yes, in a way.

0:30:490:30:50

-I just keep an eye on things!

0:30:500:30:53

-Mrs Owen, you like it here. You'll

-never move unless you have to.

0:30:530:30:59

-No, I wouldn't. I'm happy here.

0:30:590:31:02

-Can you drive? It's a remote spot.

0:31:030:31:06

-No, I depend on Dafydd Huw.

0:31:070:31:09

-Does he take you out often?

0:31:090:31:11

-Yes, quite often.

0:31:120:31:13

-Whenever I want.

0:31:140:31:16

-Do you go on holidays much?

0:31:160:31:18

-We used to.

0:31:180:31:20

-Yes, in recent years.

0:31:200:31:22

-Before that, we'd just

-take a day off here and there.

0:31:220:31:27

-We went for about 10 years,

-didn't we?

0:31:280:31:31

-Yes, that's right.

0:31:320:31:33

-I thought you meant

-you'd been on holiday for 10 years!

0:31:330:31:38

-People didn't go away years ago.

0:31:400:31:43

-People didn't go away years ago.

-

-People didn't think of holidays.

0:31:430:31:45

-We certainly didn't.

0:31:450:31:47

-Did you belong

-to any local societies?

0:31:470:31:51

-Yes, years ago.

0:31:510:31:52

-Things have deteriorated a lot.

0:31:520:31:55

-There's nothing here now.

0:31:550:31:57

-There's nothing here now.

-

-It's the same everywhere.

0:31:570:31:59

-Yes, it is.

0:31:590:32:00

-What takes up your time these days?

0:32:010:32:04

-I suppose you keep an eye on things.

0:32:040:32:07

-I suppose you keep an eye on things.

-

-And the feeding.

0:32:070:32:08

-You still feed the animals?

0:32:080:32:10

-You still feed the animals?

-

-Yes, I take them some hay.

0:32:100:32:12

-How many children do you have?

0:32:140:32:17

-Just one daughter.

0:32:170:32:19

-She's married

-and she has two children.

0:32:190:32:22

-So you have grandchildren, too.

0:32:240:32:25

-So you have grandchildren, too.

-

-We have five great-grandchildren.

0:32:250:32:28

-I suppose they get a lot

-of attention when they visit.

0:32:330:32:36

-I suppose they get a lot

-of attention when they visit.

-

-They're worth everything.

0:32:360:32:38

-These are good gates.

0:32:470:32:48

-Huw of Cwmderwen made them.

0:32:490:32:51

-The boys of Cwmderwen.

0:32:510:32:53

-After you - you go first.

0:32:570:32:59

-Beulah Chapel, Cwm Nant yr Eira.

0:33:000:33:02

-This chapel

-has an interesting history.

0:33:110:33:14

-Yes, it does.

0:33:140:33:16

-Do many people come here in summer?

0:33:160:33:18

-Do many people come here in summer?

-

-Yes, quite a few.

0:33:180:33:20

-A lot of strangers come here, too.

0:33:200:33:23

-Valley families must have filled it,

-at one time.

0:33:230:33:28

-Yes, years ago, so they say.

0:33:280:33:30

-There were no empty seats.

0:33:300:33:32

-There were no empty seats.

-

-Some famous names

-have preached here.

0:33:320:33:35

-Yes, indeed.

0:33:370:33:38

-Years ago,

-they'd hold big meetings here.

0:33:380:33:42

-Ceinion Thomas and Tom Davies,

-Llandysul, would come here.

0:33:420:33:47

-Who's been here in recent years?

0:33:470:33:50

-Gwyndaf came here regularly

-for over 50 years.

0:33:530:33:57

-Alun Evans still comes here.

0:33:590:34:02

-He's been coming here

-since he was at college.

0:34:020:34:07

-And Gwyn Erfyl is a local boy.

0:34:070:34:10

-And Gwyn Erfyl is a local boy.

-

-That's right.

0:34:100:34:11

-The Reverend Glyn Lewis

-was raised here.

0:34:130:34:16

-The ceiling is unique.

0:34:160:34:19

-The ceiling is unique.

-

-They say it was made

-by Iorwerth Peate's father.

0:34:190:34:23

-They say that Iorwerth Peate himself

-painted the railings outside.

0:34:250:34:31

-How many members are there today?

0:34:310:34:33

-How many members are there today?

-

-About 16 members.

0:34:330:34:35

-One's in Australia, but she

-contributes generously to the cause.

0:34:360:34:42

-Is she from the area?

0:34:430:34:44

-Yes, Emily James.

0:34:450:34:47

-She was in service with the Tudors,

-years ago.

0:34:470:34:51

-And she's still a member?

0:34:520:34:53

-And she's still a member?

-

-Yes, she is.

0:34:530:34:55

-.

0:35:070:35:09

-# Fragile white cottongrass

-of the moor, what weary enchantment

0:35:180:35:24

-# Made every memory a dead one,

-and made this old moor a screen?

0:35:260:35:33

-# Nothing but Time's oppression,

-that withers everything. #

0:35:350:35:42

-This next farm's postal address

-is Abercannon...

0:35:460:35:50

-..but local people

-call it Ty Isaf Farm.

0:35:520:35:55

-Mrs Nel Owen and her son, Gwynant,

-live here.

0:35:550:35:59

-Mrs Nel Owen

-is over 90 years of age.

0:35:590:36:03

-She still reigns over the farm.

0:36:030:36:05

-Hello?

0:36:210:36:22

-Anyone up yet?

0:36:230:36:24

-How are you this morning?

0:36:260:36:28

-Have you always lived

-in Cwm Nant yr Eira?

0:36:300:36:33

-I came to Cannon to work as a maid.

0:36:330:36:38

-It was a notable place.

0:36:400:36:42

-How many years were you there?

0:36:420:36:44

-How many years were you there?

-

-Seven.

0:36:440:36:46

-Then my husband got this place.

0:36:500:36:53

-We got married in 1934.

0:36:560:36:59

-That's a very long time ago.

0:37:010:37:03

-That's a very long time ago.

-

-It is, indeed.

0:37:030:37:05

-Sixty years and more.

0:37:060:37:07

-Do you enjoy good health?

0:37:100:37:12

-I've no cause to complain.

0:37:120:37:14

-Why do men lose their hair?

0:37:140:37:17

-You've got lots of hair.

-It's very smart.

0:37:170:37:20

-I've never put a lot of stuff on it.

0:37:230:37:27

-So you don't have your hair done

-all the time?

0:37:270:37:31

-You don't have

-highlights every week.

0:37:320:37:35

-Am I allowed to say

-that you're about 90 years old?

0:37:350:37:39

-Yes, since I am 90 years old.

0:37:390:37:42

-I think you're over 90!

0:37:450:37:47

-Do you enjoy moderately good health?

0:37:470:37:50

-I've no cause to complain.

0:37:510:37:53

-Gwyneth, my daughter,

-and Gwynant are very good to me.

0:37:540:37:59

-I won't keep you.

0:37:590:38:00

-It's been a pleasure talking to you.

0:38:000:38:03

-I'll call again when you celebrate

-your 100th birthday!

0:38:030:38:08

-I don't think I'll make it.

0:38:080:38:10

-People do, these days.

0:38:110:38:13

-I'm not like the Queen Mother.

0:38:140:38:16

-She has people attending to her

-every step of the way.

0:38:170:38:22

-But you're probably happier!

0:38:250:38:28

-Thank you very much, Mrs Owen.

0:38:330:38:36

-They tell me you get up very early.

0:38:400:38:43

-Well, I suppose I do.

0:38:430:38:45

-I get up as soon as I wake up.

0:38:450:38:48

-I prefer to get up.

0:38:480:38:50

-It's nice meeting you.

0:38:510:38:52

-It's nice meeting you.

-

-And you.

0:38:520:38:53

-Look after yourself.

0:38:530:38:55

-I can smell cawl cooking -

-get back to it, it's cold out!

0:38:550:39:00

-Thank you!

0:39:000:39:02

-What's going on here, Gwynant?

0:39:290:39:31

-What's going on here, Gwynant?

-

-I'm measuring the rainwater.

0:39:310:39:34

-Have you been doing this for long?

0:39:340:39:37

-Have you been doing this for long?

-

-Yes.

0:39:370:39:38

-Mam used to do it.

0:39:380:39:40

-We've done it for over 50 years.

0:39:400:39:43

-Do you record this officially?

0:39:430:39:45

-Do you record this officially?

-

-Yes.

0:39:450:39:47

-I'll measure this and write it down

-and send the result away.

0:39:470:39:52

-So you can tell how much rain

-falls every day.

0:39:520:39:56

-Yes.

0:39:570:39:59

-Yes.

-

-Is this pond

-something to do with it?

0:39:590:40:02

-Not at all.

-It didn't used to be here.

0:40:020:40:05

-Recent wet seasons have caused this.

0:40:050:40:08

-It used to be a small pond.

0:40:100:40:12

-It's been wet recently.

0:40:120:40:14

-Yes.

0:40:140:40:16

-Can you tell by looking at the jug

-how much there is?

0:40:160:40:20

-A rough guess.

0:40:210:40:22

-I'll come with you, to see.

0:40:240:40:26

-Is that all it is -

-a bottle in there?

0:40:270:40:30

-This is like the river Jordan!

0:40:310:40:34

-I'll stay on the road!

0:40:340:40:36

-What do you keep - suckler cattle

-and some sheep?

0:40:410:40:45

-Yes, sheep, mostly.

0:40:450:40:47

-This is a very convenient place

-for you and your mother.

0:40:480:40:52

-This is a very convenient place

-for you and your mother.

-

-Yes.

0:40:520:40:53

-I used to work at other places.

0:40:530:40:55

-I used to work at other places.

-

-Other farms?

0:40:550:40:57

-Yes - this place wasn't big enough

-for Dad and me.

0:40:570:41:01

-I worked at nearby farms.

0:41:020:41:04

-I worked at nearby farms.

-

-Which nearby farms?

0:41:040:41:06

-After leaving school, I worked

-three days a week at Dolau Ceimion.

0:41:070:41:12

-Then I worked half the week

-at Dolau Ceimion and half at Dolwen.

0:41:130:41:18

-From Dolwen, I went to Hafod.

0:41:190:41:20

-From Dolwen, I went to Hafod.

-

-You must remember Wally as a child.

0:41:200:41:23

-He was at school

-when I first worked there.

0:41:240:41:28

-The years fly by.

0:41:280:41:29

-The years fly by.

-

-Don't they, just.

0:41:290:41:31

-And we don't realise.

0:41:310:41:33

-This is a lovely valley -

-I like it enormously.

0:41:330:41:37

-But there's a sharp breeze.

0:41:370:41:39

-As soon as you come up past Dolwen,

-it gets colder.

0:41:400:41:42

-As soon as you come up past Dolwen,

-it gets colder.

-

-You feel the difference.

0:41:420:41:44

-Your mother loves it here.

0:41:460:41:48

-She's been here

-for quite a few years.

0:41:480:41:51

-She must remember some hard times.

0:41:520:41:55

-Yes, she's told me a lot.

0:41:550:41:57

-She often asks me

-why I'm complaining.

0:41:570:42:00

-That's true for all of us.

0:42:010:42:03

-It's time I went -

-I've got further to go.

0:42:030:42:07

-It's very dark this morning.

0:42:070:42:07

-It's very dark this morning.

-

-More rain on the way.

0:42:070:42:09

-Really?

0:42:090:42:10

-Really?

-

-I'm afraid so.

0:42:100:42:11

-You'll need a bigger jug!

0:42:120:42:14

-This is the highest farm

-in the parish of Llanerfyl...

0:42:280:42:33

-..Cwmderwen Farm.

0:42:330:42:34

-The old road used to end here.

0:42:360:42:38

-Jean and Huw Thomas and their sons,

-Elwyn and Gwynfor, live here.

0:42:400:42:46

-They've diversified -

-they do contract work.

0:42:460:42:50

-Farmers do what they can these days

-to make ends meet...

0:42:510:42:55

-..and to keep their sons

-in the area.

0:42:550:42:59

-How long has the family

-been at Cwmderwen?

0:43:020:43:05

-I was raised here.

0:43:060:43:07

-Dad came here with his parents

-from Dolau in the 1920s.

0:43:070:43:14

-Members of his family

-lived here before that.

0:43:150:43:19

-So the family's been here

-for quite a while.

0:43:190:43:23

-Your two sons

-work with you on the farm.

0:43:230:43:26

-Yes, both sons are at home.

0:43:270:43:30

-Our daughter is married

-and lives in Machynlleth.

0:43:300:43:34

-The farm isn't enough

-to keep us all...

0:43:340:43:38

-..so we do some contract work.

0:43:380:43:40

-Agricultural work?

0:43:410:43:43

-Tractors, lorries, or what?

0:43:430:43:45

-A bit of everything.

0:43:460:43:47

-Most of it is agricultural work.

0:43:480:43:50

-Transporting tack sheep for people.

0:43:510:43:53

-Transporting animals to abattoirs.

0:43:540:43:57

-The boys can do other things

-as well.

0:43:570:44:00

-Gwynfor makes silage

-and he has an excavator.

0:44:000:44:04

-Elwyn does shearing.

0:44:040:44:06

-These things have to be done

-these days.

0:44:060:44:10

-It's good that the boys

-want to stay here.

0:44:100:44:13

-You can't really run a farm

-these days without outside work.

0:44:140:44:19

-And you have to do everything -

-drive a tractor, a lorry.

0:44:190:44:25

-Yes, I'm the general gopher!

0:44:250:44:27

-You have cattle and sheep.

0:44:300:44:32

-There's plenty of work

-for three of you on the farm.

0:44:320:44:37

-Yes, more than enough.

0:44:370:44:39

-Does Jean answer the phone?

0:44:390:44:40

-Does Jean answer the phone?

-

-Yes, and she cooks and cleans

-for us.

0:44:400:44:43

-She does most of the work

-at lambing time.

0:44:430:44:47

-It's a lot of work.

0:44:470:44:49

-I'll go and look for the boys now.

0:44:500:44:53

-You said you were building a shed.

0:44:530:44:56

-We're build a lean-to

-in time for lambing.

0:44:560:45:00

-Very handy, Gwynfor.

0:45:170:45:18

-Very handy, Gwynfor.

-

-Yes, it's very handy.

0:45:180:45:20

-It's safe

-and there's plenty of room to work.

0:45:200:45:22

-It's safe

-and there's plenty of room to work.

-

-That's why we made it.

0:45:220:45:24

-Just what we needed.

0:45:240:45:26

-Are you combining these two sheds

-for cattle?

0:45:260:45:30

-We hope to get it ready

-by lambing time.

0:45:300:45:34

-We won't keep anything in it

-this year.

0:45:340:45:37

-Just use it for the sheep.

0:45:370:45:38

-Just use it for the sheep.

-

-It's very big.

0:45:380:45:40

-It's quite a shed.

0:45:400:45:41

-But it'll never be big enough.

0:45:420:45:44

-You're right, there.

0:45:440:45:46

-How much time

-have you spent on this?

0:45:470:45:50

-We put the girders up first.

0:45:500:45:52

-We put them up

-and welded everything in place.

0:45:530:45:56

-We need to put the sheeting

-and the roof on.

0:45:570:46:00

-Are the rafters difficult to put up?

0:46:010:46:04

-Are they heavy?

0:46:040:46:05

-Are they heavy?

-

-They're easiest, to be honest.

0:46:050:46:06

-Are they heavy?

-

-They're easiest, to be honest.

-

-Get away!

0:46:060:46:07

-They're easy - we lift them with the

-excavator and bolt them together.

0:46:070:46:14

-You have these machines

-to do your contract work...

0:46:140:46:18

-..but they're handy at home, too.

0:46:180:46:21

-..but they're handy at home, too.

-

-That's right.

0:46:210:46:22

-You have better equipment

-to do jobs at home.

0:46:220:46:26

-This is no place to be

-when it's raining.

0:46:270:46:31

-We try to do these jobs

-when it's dry.

0:46:310:46:34

-I'm no expert on these things...

0:46:360:46:38

-..but I'd say

-you're doing a good job.

0:46:390:46:42

-Good, thank you.

0:46:420:46:43

-You're not originally

-from Cwm Nant yr Eira, Jean.

0:46:470:46:50

-You're not originally

-from Cwm Nant yr Eira, Jean.

-

-No, Llanwddyn.

0:46:500:46:51

-The other side.

0:46:510:46:53

-Yes - Cwm Cwmni.

0:46:530:46:55

-What's the busiest time of year

-for you?

0:46:550:46:58

-What's the most important time

-for you?

0:46:590:47:01

-Lambing time.

0:47:020:47:03

-Are you out with the boys?

0:47:040:47:05

-Are you out with the boys?

-

-Yes.

0:47:050:47:06

-Do you keep track

-of the hours they work?

0:47:080:47:11

-No, I've given up on that.

0:47:110:47:13

-They do it themselves?

0:47:140:47:14

-They do it themselves?

-

-They do it themselves.

0:47:140:47:16

-Are you fattening all these calves?

0:47:210:47:23

-Are you fattening all these calves?

-

-Yes, fattening all the cattle, Dai.

0:47:230:47:26

-Are these cross-Lims?

0:47:270:47:29

-Yes, most of them.

-We've got fewer Welsh Blacks now.

0:47:310:47:35

-And you use a Charolais bull.

0:47:360:47:38

-And they're all inside?

0:47:380:47:41

-And they're all inside?

-

-Yes, all the young cattle

-are in over winter.

0:47:410:47:44

-Are you fattening both the bullocks

-and the heifers?

0:47:450:47:49

-Yes. All these will go outside

-for the summer.

0:47:500:47:54

-The sheep need feeding up

-before lambing, too.

0:47:540:47:58

-You fatten all your lambs, too.

0:47:590:48:01

-Yes, we do.

-We fatten them on turnips.

0:48:010:48:05

-It's a lot of work, really.

0:48:070:48:09

-We're back and fore a lot.

0:48:100:48:12

-Do you do a lot of shearing

-in summer?

0:48:120:48:15

-I do a bit of shearing.

0:48:150:48:17

-How's your back?

0:48:180:48:19

-How's your back?

-

-My back's alright.

0:48:190:48:20

-They say that a shearer

-has a weak head and a strong back!

0:48:200:48:25

-But when the back gets weaker

-and the head gets stronger...

0:48:260:48:31

-..he stops being a shearer!

0:48:310:48:33

-..he stops being a shearer!

-

-It's a tough job.

0:48:330:48:34

-These cattle look well.

0:48:340:48:36

-And you've clipped their backs.

0:48:370:48:38

-And you've clipped their backs.

-

-Yes, we clip them a little.

0:48:380:48:40

-# The old voices

-won't return to Beulah

0:49:000:49:06

-# From the depths of the grave,

-it was too much for them.

0:49:070:49:16

-# Be still, wounded heart, and

-don't wait for them any longer.

0:49:180:49:25

-# The old pleasures I loved

-have fled and will never return,

0:49:360:49:43

-# The sweetness of times past

-disappeared with the summers.

0:49:440:49:51

-# Nothing remains but the

-cottongrass quivering in the wind. #

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