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-What wonderful views!

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-I've come to visit the lads

-of Pendyffryn, Penmaenmawr...

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-..and this is the area

-of their old home, Llanfairfechan.

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-Lovely views

-across the sea to Anglesey.

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-The four brothers - Huw, Wil,

-Rol and Teg - farm together...

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-..and they have four sons

-to follow in their footsteps.

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-There are several small children

-here too, to follow on.

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-There are indeed new shepherds

-on these old mountains.

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-They live in a Welsh paradise.

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-This is a busy and important time

-of the year for farms.

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-It's time to sort out the cattle

-and the sheep...

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-..and decide what to sell

-and what to keep for the future.

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-..and decide what to sell

-and what to keep for the future.

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-August 2005

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-With all these young children,

-there certainly is a future.

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-Sheep are brought down

-from the mountain.

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-Where are we, Rol?

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-Where are we, Rol?

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-At Tyn Llwyfan Farm, Llanfairfechan.

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-At Tyn Llwyfan Farm, Llanfairfechan.

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-And some of the boys

-have already left?

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-Half of them have gone.

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-We're going up

-to Bwlch y Ddeufaen...

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-..to fetch sheep from Pen Cefn.

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-You'll be tired by the time

-we get to Druid's Circle.

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-We'll be coming back

-via Gwastad Pen Cefn...

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-..and down along the stream.

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-How many men are out working today?

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-How many men are out working today?

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-About 15.

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-About 15.

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-I've brought the dogs.

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-The boys are going up that way,

-but I'm coming with you.

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-I won't miss anything, will I?

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-Are we going in this?

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-WHISTLING

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-Things haven't changed much over

-the years in these upland areas.

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-Old customs survive.

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-It's important that younger

-generations learn the craft...

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-..from their fathers

-and grandfathers.

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-There's plenty of fun.

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-Despite the quad bikes, they rely

-on dogs to bring the sheep down.

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-Of course, fine weather is a bonus.

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-Are you taking these

-to the field by the house?

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-To the yard.

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-To the yard.

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-It takes a week to fetch them all.

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-Yes. We've already gathered 1,000

-sheep from the Penmaenmawr side.

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-Jac, Jac - good boy, Jac!

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-THEY CALL TO THE DOGS

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-WHISTLING

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-It's a job getting them

-through these rushes...

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-..and my short legs trip me up!

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-Good dog, good dog!

-Good dog, good dog!

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-They're very woolly.

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-Just look at them.

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-THEY CALL TO THE DOGS

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-You'll sleep like a log tonight!

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-You'll sleep like a log tonight!

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-Yes, I'll be tired.

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-Yes, I'll be tired.

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-All these must be treated today,

-and the lambs separated.

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-We have to dose them all.

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-It was quite an experience.

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-Some parts of that mountain are

-dangerous - I was afraid you'd fall.

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-You'd have needed a helicopter -

-a pony couldn't carry you down!

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-You were scared

-at the thought of lifting me!

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-Are you sorting them this afternoon?

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-Are you sorting them this afternoon?

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-Yes, all of them.

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-Yes, all of them.

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-Some of these sheep

-belong to other people...

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-..though most of them

-belong to the family.

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-It was interesting to watch

-the other sheep breaking away.

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-We needed good dogs today.

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-It was hot too.

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-I don't know

-if I'm sweating or leaking!

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-THEY HOLLER AT THE SHEEP

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-It's the end of August,

-and it's boiling hot today.

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-We brought them down this morning,

-before the midday heat.

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-The children are helping the fathers

-and grandfathers to sort the sheep.

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-I've cooled down now,

-so I'll go and help.

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-BLEATING, BANGING, SHOUTING.

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-Wil, you rarely see

-such a big family working a farm.

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-Four brothers run this farm, and now

-there are four sons as well.

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-And here's the third generation -

-Osian.

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-Ieuan here is your son.

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-You all come together

-for the big jobs.

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-Yes - harvesting, sheep shearing

-and bringing the sheep down.

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-How long has the family farmed here?

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-My cousin and her husband have been

-tracing the family's history...

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-..and the family's been in this

-parish for about 350 years.

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-My father's side of the family.

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-My father's side of the family.

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-Did he have many brothers?

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-Did he have many brothers?

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-Yes - he was one of 11.

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-There's a photo of seven of them

-shearing together, in the '50s.

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-It's a hot day.

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-Do all these sheep belong to you?

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-No - we bring everyone's sheep down,

-and this is where we sort them.

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-We keep the other sheep here

-until the owners come to fetch them.

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-Rol's responsible

-for the other sheep.

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-He's the parish setter.

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-He phones people to tell them

-if any of their sheep are here.

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-You're following

-in your father's footsteps, Ieuan,

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-That's right.

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-Is Osian interested?

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-He's very keen.

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-How many children do you have?

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-How many children do you have?

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-Osian and his little sister, Ela.

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-It's great to see them here today.

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-It's great to see them here today.

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-She's too young to be here.

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-She's too young to be here.

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-On family farms, it's so important

-for children to be involved.

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-You're right.

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-That's how they learn.

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-That's how they learn.

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-They preserve the language...

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-They preserve the language...

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-..and history too.

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-Most of the history of this parish

-is oral history.

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-A lot of it isn't documented.

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-This parish

-has a very interesting history.

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-You brothers

-have an interesting history too.

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-You know how to enjoy yourselves.

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-You know how to enjoy yourselves.

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-People might talk more about us...

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-People might talk more about us...

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-..when we're gone to the other side!

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-Gareth, it's a tough job

-in hot weather.

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-What are you dosing against today?

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-Parasitic worms.

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-They're fairly healthy

-on the mountain, though.

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-Yes, but they must be wormed...

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-..before we start sending them away

-for the winter.

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-Rol, you're marking sheep

-for selling.

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-Yes, sheep to be sold.

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-We dose all the sheep against fluke

-and worms, as you can see.

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-You've got plenty of helpers.

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-Is it easy to find helpers?

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-Is it easy to find helpers?

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-The local boys are good...

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-Is it easy to find helpers?

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-..when it comes

-to bringing the sheep down.

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-..when it comes

-to bringing the sheep down.

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-We encourage the boys to keep

-farming - my grandfather farmed...

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-..I'm a farmer, and I hope the boys

-and their children will follow.

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-The land passes from one generation

-to the next.

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-BLEATING

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-It's the first farm I've visited

-that's run by four brothers...

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-..who have a son each.

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-This is Tecwyn's son, Robert.

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-Are sheep your main work?

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-Are sheep your main work?

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-Yes.

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-Yes.

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-Sheep involve more work

-than cattle, these days.

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-A lot more.

-Feet are the biggest problem.

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-Do you like working with sheep?

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-Do you like working with sheep?

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-Yes, I enjoy working with sheep.

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-Yes, I enjoy working with sheep.

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-I like a bit of everything.

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-You're not married yet.

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-You're not married yet.

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-No, but I'm engaged.

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-No, but I'm engaged.

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-I'm on the way.

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-Be careful, and take your time!

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-Be careful, and take your time!

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-Yes, take it slowly!

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-Yes, take it slowly!

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-You're building a new house.

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-You're building a new house.

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-Yes - it's half-built.

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-Yes - it's half-built.

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-I hope it's ready

-before lambing time.

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-They're very woolly, Wil.

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-Yes, and they're not as greasy

-as they are earlier in the season.

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-The sun's warmed it out.

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-The sun's warmed it out.

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-Yes, thank goodness.

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-Yes, thank goodness.

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-The grease can be dirty stuff.

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-That's why I'm wearing overalls.

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-I thought you were expecting frost,

-and going out gritting!

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-No, these keep my wife happy -

-less washing to do.

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-We roll the fleeces inside-out...

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-..so the fleeces

-can be graded more easily.

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-You don't tie it?

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-You don't tie it?

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-No, I tuck it in like this.

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-No, I tuck it in like this.

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-This is quite a tiring job

-to do all day.

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-I don't often see someone

-using a table.

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-I thought tea was ready!

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-My back and legs hurt

-when I bend too low.

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-My belly gets in the way!

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-Shearing day is a day for fun.

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-A local boy, Berwyn, has been

-coming here since he was small.

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-This is a great place to learn.

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-He's very keen.

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-Learning, are you, Berwyn?

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-Yes.

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-Have you finished school?

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-Have you finished school?

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-Yes.

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-Yes.

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-What will you do next?

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-I'm going to Glynllifon.

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-For six months.

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-For six months.

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-For six months?

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-For six months?

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-Teg and the boys are teaching you.

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-When did you start coming here?

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-When did you start coming here?

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-When I was 14.

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-When I was 14.

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-Have you learned a lot?

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-Have you learned a lot?

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-Oh, yes.

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-You know your way on the mountain.

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-You know your way on the mountain.

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-Of course!

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-Stick with it,

-you're in a good place.

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-They say that farmers

-have a good life.

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-You still work every day.

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-Rol, who's shearing, is nearly 70.

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-Teg shears too,

-and Wil rolls the fleeces.

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-We all pitch in...

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-..though it's the youngsters

-who do most of the shearing.

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-When they have a break,

-we take over.

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-It's nice to have the boys here.

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-We have 1,200 sheep to shear.

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-We start about 8.00am

-and finish about 6.00pm.

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-It's quite a long day.

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-It's quite a long day.

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-No need to tell a brother anything.

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-No need to tell a brother anything.

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-No need to speak for us, you mean?

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-They're old enough

-to speak for themselves...

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-..and they know

-how to count pound notes!

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-There's no need to worry about money

-- we all get an equal share.

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-Rol's second son, Huw, lives here

-on the outskirts of Penmaenmawr.

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-He runs Graiglwyd Springs,

-a fishery.

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-The work is different, but it's

-located next to the family's land.

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-It's a lovely spot, Huw...

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-..and just a stone's throw from the

-family home in Llanfairfechan...

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-..just through Penmaenmawr.

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-It's a novel idea - a fish farm.

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-It's a novel idea - a fish farm.

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-Yes.

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-Yes.

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-How long has it been here?

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-How long has it been here?

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-Since September '93.

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-Since September '93.

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-Your brother looks after sheep,

-but this is your interest.

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-Yes. I enjoyed fishing in rivers

-when I was a child.

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-This was in the middle of the farms.

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-I got a chance to buy it,

-and I turned it into a fishing lake.

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-It's gone from strength to strength.

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-Do you leave the fish to grow

-in the bottom pond?

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-Yes, I grow them on.

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-You buy in fish

-when they weigh a pound.

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-1lb old! That's a good one!

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-They grow to 2lbs or so,

-then I put them in the lake.

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-I also buy large fish,

-over 10lb and up to 30lbs.

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-We stock the lake every day.

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-People are constantly catching fish.

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-If 30 or 40 fish have been caught -

-80 is the average...

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-..then 80 fish are put in.

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-Lifting those fish

-must be hard on your back.

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-Oh God, yes.

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-I'm there with the net

-every morning.

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-But it's a pleasure to see children

-and disabled people catching fish.

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-Some are fishing for the first time.

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-People come from everywhere,

-do they?

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-Yes. 50% come from

-between here and Chester.

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-Teg lives just behind you -

-you're in among the farms.

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-Yes, I see him in the afternoon.

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-That makes him sound as though

-he's never up in the morning!

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-This is a very peaceful spot.

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-Who'd have thought there was

-a place like this here?

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-He was very lucky to buy it.

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-Because we had the farms,

-we knew about the place.

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-But it was my son who came up

-with the fishery idea.

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-He's done a good job

-of attracting people here.

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-It's often very full,

-like it is today.

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-A DOG BARKS NOISILY

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-A DOG BARKS NOISILY

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-There's a dog barking.

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-There's a dog barking.

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-It's the rottweiler

-that guards the place.

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-Hello! A Welsh speaker too!

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-Where are you from?

-Blaenau Ffestiniog?

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-Don't you have enough water there?!

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-Don't say that, Dai!

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-Don't want to lose customers!

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-You can see why people come here.

-It's lovely.

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-There's a breeze here,

-although the weather's sultry.

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-There's a light breeze.

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-Fish are jumping everywhere.

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-Fish are jumping everywhere.

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-I hope he doesn't hook my glasses!

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-I hope he doesn't hook my glasses!

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-Is this your land?

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-Yes, it belongs to the farms.

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-We keep sheep all over the mountain,

-all the way round to here.

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-What's the name of Teg's home?

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-What's the name of Teg's home?

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-Plas Uchaf.

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-Plas Uchaf.

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-They're dipping sheep there today.

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-That's right.

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-All four brothers and four sons

-work together on everything.

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-How lovely.

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-The family owns several farms.

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-This is Plas Uchaf, Teg's home.

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-They're dipping sheep today.

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-It's nice to see

-the youngsters busy.

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-Yes. It takes the pressure off us -

-the three old men!

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-It lightens the burden.

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-But being involved keeps you young.

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-Yes, indeed.

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-You can work

-when you feel like working.

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-You can keep going 'till you're 100.

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-You can keep going 'till you're 100.

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-We hope so.

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-You can keep going 'till you're 100.

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-We don't plan to leave

-for a long time!

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-We don't plan to leave

-for a long time!

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-They're dipping sale sheep,

-three- and four-year olds.

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-We've got good sheep this year.

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-The youngsters

-work on the farms every day.

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-We want to keep the farms

-in the family.

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-There's no point

-installing these facilities...

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-..for rubbish stock.

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-You're right.

-These facilities are here to stay.

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-You can't pay for new facilities

-if you don't have good stock.

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-You get your money when they're sold.

0:18:330:18:36

-Huw is the fourth brother,

-the eldest.

0:18:470:18:50

-He has a son, Owen John.

0:18:510:18:53

-They're both very keen on machines.

0:18:530:18:56

-Good tractors, Owen John.

0:19:000:19:02

-Yes, they're good tractors.

0:19:020:19:04

-You need them, too.

0:19:040:19:06

-They're essential.

0:19:060:19:08

-It's a matter of necessity.

0:19:080:19:10

-Huw, you're the eldest brother.

0:19:110:19:13

-Of the partners, yes.

0:19:140:19:16

-I have another brother

-who's older than me.

0:19:160:19:20

-We four carried on farming here

-after our father died.

0:19:200:19:24

-We've been partners for years.

0:19:240:19:26

-Were you always the one

-who looked after the tractors?

0:19:260:19:31

-Yes, though we all got involved.

0:19:310:19:33

-But I did the most,

-cutting hay and so on.

0:19:330:19:38

-Rol did the baling.

0:19:380:19:40

-WHISTLING

0:19:400:19:42

-HE CALLS TO THE DOG

0:19:540:19:56

-Who's this, Gareth?

0:19:580:20:00

-He's Star's son.

0:20:000:20:01

-He's a handy dog.

0:20:020:20:03

-Yes, he is.

0:20:030:20:05

-His mother is David Young's Jen.

0:20:050:20:08

-Oh, from Scotland.

0:20:080:20:10

-Yes. He's a young dog,

-just two years old.

0:20:100:20:14

-I know you compete with dogs.

0:20:140:20:17

-Yes. I wish I had more time

-to do this.

0:20:170:20:21

-He should be good in a year or two.

0:20:210:20:24

-He should be good in a year or two.

-

-How long have you been doing this?

0:20:240:20:25

-How long have you been doing this?

0:20:250:20:26

-Since I was 10.

0:20:270:20:29

-An old boy, William Hughes,

-came here to train dogs.

0:20:290:20:33

-I started with him and Dad.

0:20:330:20:34

-I started with him and Dad.

-

-Are you the only one...

0:20:340:20:36

-Are you the only one...

0:20:360:20:36

-..who's been training him?

0:20:370:20:38

-..who's been training him?

-

-Yes, I train all the dogs.

0:20:380:20:39

-Yes, I train all the dogs.

0:20:390:20:40

-We have 17 dogs in all.

0:20:400:20:42

-We have 17 dogs in all.

-

-17? I saw the kennels.

0:20:420:20:43

-17? I saw the kennels.

0:20:430:20:44

-Seven of them are puppies, mind you.

0:20:450:20:48

-Dogs are essential -

-you've got nearly 6,000 sheep.

0:20:480:20:51

-Yes. Plenty of work for them.

0:20:510:20:55

-Will you use him on the mountain?

0:20:550:20:56

-Will you use him on the mountain?

-

-We're taking him there tomorrow.

0:20:560:20:58

-We're taking him there tomorrow.

0:20:580:20:58

-He was up there the other day too.

0:20:590:21:02

-It helps to train him.

0:21:020:21:04

-It's nice to spend the evenings

-training a dog.

0:21:050:21:08

-It's better than the pub!

0:21:090:21:11

-I think you're right.

0:21:110:21:13

-It also gives me time to think.

0:21:130:21:16

-Well done, and good luck with him.

0:21:170:21:20

-He's a smart dog. What's his name?

0:21:200:21:23

-He's a smart dog. What's his name?

-

-His name's Fflach.

0:21:230:21:23

-His name's Fflach.

0:21:230:21:24

-The boys gave him that name.

0:21:240:21:27

-Fflach. I'm sure they'll laugh

-at the sheepdog trials!

0:21:280:21:32

-The boys have quite a lot of land...

0:21:360:21:39

-..around Llanfairfechan,

-Penmaenmawr and Conwy.

0:21:390:21:42

-But the farm has to support

-eight homes and families.

0:21:430:21:47

-So it's no surprise that they rent

-grazing land in Anglesey.

0:21:470:21:52

-The land belongs to Lord Anglesey,

-on the Plas Newydd estate.

0:21:530:21:58

-There's plenty of food

-for the lambs, William.

0:21:590:22:03

-Yes, there's plenty of clover here.

0:22:030:22:05

-Lots of clover. Is all this yours?

0:22:060:22:09

-Lots of clover. Is all this yours?

-

-Yes. We have 150 acres here.

0:22:090:22:09

-Yes. We have 150 acres here.

0:22:090:22:11

-Grazing land, for lambs.

0:22:120:22:14

-When we bring them down from the

-mountain, male lambs come here...

0:22:150:22:21

-..to fatten.

0:22:210:22:22

-I hope by holiday time, they'll

-be good enough, or nearly so.

0:22:230:22:27

-You've got over 1,000 lambs here.

0:22:270:22:28

-You've got over 1,000 lambs here.

-

-Yes, well over 1,000.

0:22:280:22:30

-You sell them

-when the price is right.

0:22:320:22:36

-That's right.

0:22:360:22:37

-Anglesey isn't terribly far to come.

0:22:370:22:40

-No. Sometimes we come over every

-day, but at least every two days.

0:22:400:22:46

-We have cattle and sheep here

-so we've got to keep an eye.

0:22:460:22:51

-Your sons, like your brothers,

-know what's going on everywhere.

0:22:520:22:56

-It doesn't matter

-who comes to check on them.

0:22:560:23:00

-We have a meeting in the morning

-over a cuppa...

0:23:000:23:05

-..so we all know who's going where.

0:23:050:23:08

-Amazing. That's what I call

-a proper family farm.

0:23:100:23:14

-I'd say so.

0:23:150:23:16

-There's good land in Anglesey.

0:23:300:23:32

-Yes, indeed.

0:23:330:23:34

-This is the jewel in the crown.

-It's the best farm in Anglesey.

0:23:340:23:40

-You breed all your own cattle -

-you never buy any.

0:23:420:23:46

-These were reared in Llanfairfechan.

0:23:470:23:49

-There's something about the land

-in Anglesey - it suits cattle well.

0:23:490:23:54

-They used to import big Irish cows.

0:23:540:23:56

-They used to import big Irish cows.

-

-What really helps us...

0:23:560:23:57

-What really helps us...

0:23:570:23:58

-..because we have so many

-mountain sheep...

0:23:580:24:01

-..we'll have 1,000 female lambs...

0:24:010:24:03

-..and this place makes a big

-difference to them come spring.

0:24:040:24:08

-In April they go straight back

-on the mountain.

0:24:090:24:13

-We breed our own stock,

-and we only buy bulls and rams.

0:24:130:24:17

-If we had to buy all these,

-on top of paying rent...

0:24:180:24:23

-..it would be difficult

-to make a profit.

0:24:240:24:28

-I feel that if you breed them

-yourself...

0:24:280:24:31

-..it's possible to make a profit.

0:24:310:24:32

-..it's possible to make a profit.

-

-And you know what you've got.

0:24:320:24:34

-And you know what you've got.

0:24:340:24:34

-888

0:24:570:24:57

-888

0:24:570:24:59

-Hill farms are ruled by the seasons.

0:25:040:25:05

-Hill farms are ruled by the seasons.

-

-September 2005

0:25:050:25:07

-It's September,

-again a time of gathering.

0:25:090:25:12

-But the weather is very different.

0:25:120:25:14

-What a morning!

0:25:200:25:21

-Dai Jones slept late!

0:25:240:25:26

-I couldn't see my way!

0:25:280:25:30

-It's a filthy morning,

-but the forecast was good.

0:25:330:25:36

-It was raining heavily at 6.00am.

0:25:370:25:39

-It was cold too.

0:25:400:25:41

-Must we wait for the fog to clear?

0:25:450:25:49

-What we're after today

-are the sheep we want to sell.

0:25:490:25:54

-All the shepherds are here.

0:25:550:25:57

-Some of them have come from afar.

0:25:570:26:00

-We'll wait 'til 10.00am or 11.00am.

0:26:010:26:03

-We can't do much

-after midday, can we?

0:26:050:26:08

-Rain, wind and cold

-mean nothing to the shepherds.

0:26:150:26:19

-But fog is another matter.

0:26:200:26:23

-Rol's son, Gareth, and his wife

-and family, live near the farm.

0:26:250:26:30

-Rhian, Gareth has his interests,

-his work with sheepdogs.

0:26:320:26:35

-You have your own interests.

0:26:360:26:38

-You have your own interests.

-

-Yes - singing.

0:26:380:26:38

-Yes - singing.

0:26:380:26:39

-Singing and composing.

0:26:390:26:41

-I write lyrics too.

0:26:420:26:43

-Have you sung on stage a lot?

0:26:440:26:47

-Yes, I have.

0:26:470:26:48

-It's not so easy now I have

-children, but I enjoy it.

0:26:490:26:54

-That's Rolant on your lap.

0:26:540:26:56

-Sior is the quiet one.

0:26:560:26:59

-And how old is little Mari?

0:27:000:27:02

-And how old is little Mari?

-

-Just over a year old.

0:27:020:27:03

-Just over a year old.

0:27:030:27:05

-This is a great place to live.

-Plenty for the children to see.

0:27:060:27:11

-It's a great place,

-but it's hard work too.

0:27:120:27:16

-Long hours.

0:27:160:27:18

-Long hours.

-

-It's very foggy this morning...

0:27:180:27:18

-It's very foggy this morning...

0:27:180:27:20

-..and you have to fetch sheep

-from the mountain.

0:27:200:27:24

-Can I have a colouring book?

-I'm good at drawing birds!

0:27:250:27:30

-Where did you meet Rhian, Gareth?

0:27:310:27:33

-Where did you meet Rhian, Gareth?

-

-In a nightclub in Bangor.

0:27:330:27:33

-In a nightclub in Bangor.

0:27:330:27:35

-A nightclub, of all places!

0:27:350:27:38

-That was a long time ago!

0:27:390:27:41

-The boys used to go there

-quite often.

0:27:410:27:45

-We had a good time.

0:27:450:27:47

-This is a good place

-to raise children.

0:27:470:27:51

-Yes - plenty of fresh air...

0:27:510:27:53

-..and they get a taste

-of the traditional way of life.

0:27:530:27:58

-One foot in the future

-and one in the past.

0:27:580:28:02

-They take their stories

-to school in Bangor.

0:28:020:28:06

-The school benefits too.

0:28:060:28:08

-To go back to the singing, Rhian -

-when do you find time to compose?

0:28:090:28:14

-When I'm washing dishes!

0:28:140:28:16

-I put a CD on, I wash the dishes,

-and I think about lyrics.

0:28:160:28:22

-# Will we ever have

-this chance again?

0:28:250:28:28

-# Where's the challenge,

-where's the excitement?

0:28:280:28:31

-# We must defend the right

-of the mountain. #

0:28:320:28:37

-Wil, you live

-in the middle of the village.

0:28:390:28:43

-Yes, but we don't keep

-many animals here...

0:28:430:28:47

-..just a few calves in winter...

0:28:470:28:50

-..because the road

-goes through a housing estate.

0:28:500:28:53

-We can't take cattle back and forth.

0:28:530:28:55

-We can't take cattle back and forth.

-

-How long have you lived here?

0:28:550:28:56

-How long have you lived here?

0:28:560:28:58

-It'll be 50 years next year.

0:28:580:29:01

-Hen Blas. Who owned this place

-previously?

0:29:010:29:04

-It looks like a very nice place.

0:29:040:29:07

-It looks like a very nice place.

-

-It was owned, years ago...

0:29:070:29:08

-It was owned, years ago...

0:29:080:29:10

-..by the Bulkeleys

-of Baron Hill in Anglesey.

0:29:100:29:14

-That stone still bears

-an inscription to that effect.

0:29:140:29:18

-There's a lion on top too.

0:29:180:29:20

-You live right in the middle

-of the village.

0:29:200:29:24

-Sometimes it's convenient,

-sometimes not.

0:29:240:29:27

-The flowers are lovely.

0:29:280:29:28

-The flowers are lovely.

-

-My wife looks after those.

0:29:280:29:29

-My wife looks after those.

0:29:290:29:30

-Hello there!

0:29:310:29:32

-Is this your original home, Ieuan?

0:29:330:29:36

-Yes.

0:29:360:29:38

-You've married

-but you haven't moved very far.

0:29:380:29:41

-No, just down the road there.

0:29:420:29:44

-It's unusual - you live

-in a large village, Llanfairfechan.

0:29:450:29:49

-If this was where I live,

-I'd call it a town.

0:29:490:29:54

-But the mountain's nearby.

-You get the best of both worlds.

0:29:540:29:59

-Both worlds, yes.

-Our fields start just up the road.

0:30:000:30:04

-It's great.

0:30:040:30:06

-Do you work on the farm every day?

0:30:060:30:07

-Do you work on the farm every day?

-

-Yes.

0:30:070:30:09

-This is Osian. Is he your eldest?

0:30:090:30:12

-Osian's the eldest - he's nine.

-My daughter's three.

0:30:120:30:16

-She's at the nursery this morning.

0:30:160:30:18

-It's amazing the way

-your father and uncles keep going...

0:30:200:30:24

-..at 70 years of age.

0:30:240:30:26

-Let's hope you do the same.

0:30:270:30:28

-Let's hope you do the same.

-

-It's a job keeping up with them!

0:30:280:30:29

-It's a job keeping up with them!

0:30:290:30:31

-It must be good

-to be such a big family.

0:30:310:30:35

-Today, everyone's waiting

-to go up the mountain.

0:30:350:30:39

-What's the latest we can leave it?

0:30:390:30:42

-It's 10.40 now. Midday?

0:30:420:30:44

-We can't leave it later

-than midday...

0:30:450:30:48

-..or it'll be too dark

-by the time we come down.

0:30:480:30:52

-The shepherds are here,

-the company's ready to move.

0:30:530:30:56

-We must retain these customs.

-If we lose these, we lose Wales.

0:30:570:31:02

-The other brother's here today.

0:31:020:31:05

-Three generations.

-Which brother are you?

0:31:060:31:08

-I'm Robert, the eldest.

0:31:090:31:10

-The eldest? And you're his son?

0:31:110:31:12

-The eldest? And you're his son?

-

-I'm Tudor.

0:31:120:31:13

-I'm Tudor.

0:31:130:31:14

-And you're the grandson?

0:31:140:31:16

-Dewi.

0:31:160:31:17

-Three generations.

-I'm fascinated by these generations.

0:31:170:31:20

-The brothers, the sons

-and the grandsons.

0:31:210:31:24

-Do you farm on the mountain?

0:31:240:31:26

-Do you farm on the mountain?

-

-We have land in Llanfairfechan...

0:31:260:31:26

-We have land in Llanfairfechan...

0:31:260:31:28

-..but we farm outside Bangor.

-Coed Hywel is the main farm.

0:31:280:31:32

-You must have many memories

-of this place.

0:31:330:31:36

-I remember my uncles here,

-years ago.

0:31:360:31:39

-That generation's gone now.

0:31:390:31:42

-But your sons are here

-to inherit the things you've done.

0:31:420:31:47

-Back to the wilds and the fog.

0:31:560:31:59

-We're not far from the Carneddau.

0:31:590:32:02

-Just 30 minutes from the village,

-we found a very remote spot.

0:32:020:32:07

-What's this place called?

0:32:090:32:11

-It goes up to what we call the Drum.

0:32:110:32:15

-From the stream right up to the top

-- we call it the Drum.

0:32:150:32:21

-It's nice here.

-The fog stops on that ridge.

0:32:210:32:25

-Several times we've been up here,

-and a thick fog descends...

0:32:250:32:30

-..and then the sheep scatter.

0:32:300:32:33

-You can see the sheep moving.

0:32:330:32:35

-They usually take them further over

-before turning over the top.

0:32:360:32:41

-They keep heading back

-to their habitats.

0:32:430:32:46

-Some people talk about taking

-these flocks off the mountains.

0:32:470:32:52

-Good gracious, you'd have a job

-finding a habitat for those sheep...

0:32:520:32:57

-..or getting the sheep

-used to a new place.

0:32:570:33:01

-When Foot & Mouth disease

-hit Anglesey...

0:33:010:33:04

-..we lost 1,200 young sheep.

0:33:050:33:07

-We had to keep older sheep on...

0:33:070:33:10

-..so that female lambs

-could regain the habitat.

0:33:100:33:14

-When you buy sheep - say we sold

-a farm and its sheep...

0:33:140:33:19

-..the buyer would have to buy

-the habitat as well.

0:33:190:33:24

-Mountain grazing rights.

0:33:240:33:26

-They've come over the top now.

0:33:370:33:40

-Yes. They're coming down

-Foel Lwyd and Drosgl...

0:33:400:33:43

-..towards Bwlch y Ddeufaen.

0:33:430:33:46

-Then they cross the river

-and head for Gwastad Pen Cefn.

0:33:460:33:50

-It's steep over there.

0:33:510:33:52

-It's very steep and craggy.

0:33:530:33:56

-It's very steep and craggy.

-

-Within sight of the farm, though.

0:33:560:33:56

-Within sight of the farm, though.

0:33:560:33:59

-Yes.

0:33:590:34:01

-They'll come in their own time now.

0:34:010:34:04

-Those fields down by the house

-look good.

0:34:130:34:17

-You've been working on them.

0:34:170:34:19

-Yes. My uncle

-used to farm that land.

0:34:190:34:23

-He's the one who improved the land.

0:34:230:34:26

-Improved the land?

0:34:260:34:28

-Yes. He worked

-and improved the land.

0:34:280:34:31

-That word you used was unfamiliar.

0:34:310:34:32

-That word you used was unfamiliar.

-

-As you can see...

0:34:320:34:34

-As you can see...

0:34:340:34:34

-..they're growing silage there.

0:34:340:34:36

-That part where the cattle are,

-in the distance...

0:34:370:34:40

-..we did all that.

0:34:410:34:43

-"Loesi" is the word you use

-for ploughing the land.

0:34:460:34:50

-"Loesi." It's an old word.

0:34:500:34:53

-I'm sure it is.

0:34:530:34:54

-How did your forefathers

-do this, years ago?

0:34:550:34:59

-Did they walk up here?

0:34:590:35:01

-Did they walk up here?

-

-Yes. They got up at 2.00am...

0:35:010:35:04

-..so they could start

-rounding up the sheep at daybreak.

0:35:040:35:09

-They'd have been

-coming back in pitch darkness...

0:35:090:35:12

-..if they'd only started out

-at daybreak.

0:35:130:35:16

-It's a long way up, about four miles

-from the village to the top.

0:35:160:35:22

-Did they have this number

-of sheep years ago?

0:35:220:35:27

-Or were there fewer?

0:35:270:35:29

-About the same number.

0:35:290:35:30

-They also kept sheep

-for mutton back then...

0:35:310:35:34

-..what we'd call "myllt"

-or "llydnod".

0:35:340:35:37

-Older sheep.

0:35:380:35:39

-We call them "gweddrod".

0:35:400:35:42

-But roughly

-the same number of sheep.

0:35:420:35:45

-Mutton has a certain flavour

-you don't get with lamb.

0:35:460:35:50

-Was that what you were raised on?

0:35:500:35:52

-Was that what you were raised on?

-

-Yes, of course.

0:35:520:35:53

-Was that what you were raised on?

0:35:530:35:53

-It did a good job!

0:35:530:35:53

-It did a good job!

0:35:530:35:54

-It did a good job!

-

-And bread-and-milk.

0:35:540:35:55

-And bread-and-milk.

0:35:550:35:56

-There's a picture of you in the

-house that looks quite impressive!

0:35:570:36:02

-Like that bloke - not Humpty Dumpty

-- "Ingleberg" Humperdinck...

0:36:030:36:06

-..Engelbert Humperdinck!

0:36:070:36:09

-Heck, Dai! Humpty Dumpty?

-That makes two of us!

0:36:090:36:13

-# Don't ever be too busy,

0:36:130:36:17

-# Come together now to defend

-the right of the mountain. #

0:36:170:36:26

-You've got as many as the other day.

0:36:320:36:34

-You've got as many as the other day.

-

-You know, I was disappointed.

0:36:340:36:35

-You know, I was disappointed.

0:36:350:36:36

-You should have come to help us!

0:36:370:36:40

-We went into the fog, it lifted,

-but it fell again.

0:36:400:36:44

-When we went over the top,

-the last place...

0:36:450:36:49

-..and Teg and I are in our 70s -

-it was hard going.

0:36:490:36:54

-But it's gone well.

0:36:540:36:55

-But it's gone well.

-

-You didn't leave many behind.

0:36:550:36:56

-You didn't leave many behind.

0:36:560:36:57

-888

0:37:130:37:13

-888

0:37:130:37:15

-With much shouting and barking...

0:37:260:37:28

-..the sheep were brought down

-from the hills and sorted.

0:37:290:37:33

-We're now at the auction

-in Gaerwen, Anglesey.

0:37:330:37:36

-The brothers bring four-year-old

-sheep to the annual sale.

0:37:360:37:41

-These sheep should do well

-for many years on lowland farms.

0:37:410:37:46

-Will they do well in the sale ring?

0:37:460:37:49

-If trade is slow, it's a loss.

-If it's brisk, they'll profit.

0:37:500:37:55

-Gaerwen is a long way

-to come from Llanfairfechan.

0:37:570:38:01

-Is this where you've always come?

0:38:010:38:03

-Is this where you've always come?

-

-No.

0:38:030:38:04

-No.

0:38:040:38:05

-Years ago, we had our own sale

-in Llanfairfechan.

0:38:050:38:09

-Cattle were also sold there.

0:38:090:38:11

-But the attendance grew smaller,

-so we joined another sale.

0:38:120:38:18

-We were with them for years.

0:38:180:38:20

-Then Foot & Mouth struck,

-and auctions were cancelled.

0:38:200:38:25

-We've been coming to Gaerwen

-ever since.

0:38:260:38:29

-It's a good place,

-and it's not too far.

0:38:290:38:33

-Getting them here is the problem.

0:38:330:38:36

-There are 500 sheep, and farmers

-can choose what they want.

0:38:520:38:57

-They can buy just one sheep

-if they want.

0:38:570:39:01

-That's a three-year-old.

-There are some three-year-olds.

0:39:010:39:06

-THE AUCTIONEER SPEAKS RAPIDLY

0:39:060:39:08

-Fair play - three years old.

0:39:080:39:10

-Fair play.

0:39:120:39:13

-21.

0:39:170:39:18

-No.

0:39:180:39:20

-They've been dosed, dipped

-and treated for foot rot.

0:39:200:39:24

-If a few appear lame, don't worry -

-they've been treated.

0:39:240:39:29

-Fair play.

0:39:300:39:31

-They're guaranteed. We've been

-selling for over 50 years.

0:39:320:39:36

-21.

0:39:370:39:39

-That's low.

-Just look at the length in them.

0:39:390:39:43

-You can cross them

-with Border Leicesters, or anything.

0:39:430:39:46

-This depresses me.

0:39:470:39:49

-I'll have a word with my brother,

-or I'll be in trouble.

0:39:490:39:54

-What shall I do?

0:39:540:39:56

-It's very low, 21.

0:39:560:39:58

-Well, that's the way it is.

0:40:030:40:05

-Happy?

0:40:080:40:09

-Happy?

-

-Yes! No - of course I'm not!

0:40:090:40:09

-Yes! No - of course I'm not!

0:40:090:40:12

-No holidays for us next year!

0:40:120:40:15

-It's serious.

0:40:160:40:17

-But they're good, strong sheep.

0:40:180:40:20

-These are the ones you helped us

-bring down from the mountain.

0:40:200:40:25

-I hope they'll do better

-than the others.

0:40:250:40:29

-THEY WHISTLE AND SHOUT

-AT THE SHEEP

0:40:290:40:32

-As God is my witness -

-and I was in chapel yesterday...

0:40:330:40:38

-..so strike me down dead...

0:40:390:40:41

-..these came off the mountain

-last Tuesday.

0:40:410:40:44

-Exactly the same type.

-You're getting a huge bargain.

0:40:450:40:49

-Fair play.

0:40:500:40:51

-You know.

0:40:510:40:53

-You know how old they are -

-between three and four.

0:40:530:40:57

-Three-year-old, look.

0:40:570:40:59

-This is very depressing.

0:40:590:41:01

-I thought I'd get a bit more.

0:41:030:41:05

-I thought I'd get a bit more.

-

-Happy, Teg?

0:41:050:41:06

-Happy, Teg?

0:41:060:41:07

-No, not at all.

0:41:070:41:08

-No, not at all.

-

-How much did you get last year?

0:41:080:41:09

-How much did you get last year?

0:41:090:41:11

-28 last year.

0:41:110:41:12

-That's 7 difference.

0:41:130:41:14

-Everyone's saying prices are up

-but they're down, really.

0:41:150:41:19

-21.

0:41:210:41:23

-You're working hard, Rol.

-You're working hard.

0:41:250:41:28

-It's a tough job.

0:41:280:41:30

-Tougher than being on the mountain.

0:41:300:41:32

-I don't doubt it!

0:41:330:41:34

-They don't believe they've just

-come down from the mountain.

0:41:350:41:39

-If they knew, they'd pay more!

0:41:400:41:42

-All of these were sired

-by selected rams.

0:41:420:41:46

-They've cost us pounds.

0:41:460:41:48

-Are you happy

-with an average of about 20?

0:41:480:41:52

-It could have been better.

0:41:520:41:53

-It could have been better.

-

-It could have been a lot worse.

0:41:530:41:54

-It could have been a lot worse.

0:41:540:41:56

-They're strong sheep, too.

0:41:560:41:58

-You can see that. They're very good.

0:41:580:42:01

-Watch out, boys.

0:42:010:42:03

-How do you feel, Ieu? Happy?

0:42:030:42:05

-Of course!

-If the boys are happy, I'm happy!

0:42:060:42:09

-Bring them back

-if you're not satisfied.

0:42:100:42:13

-21.

0:42:160:42:17

-Those are good ewes they're getting.

0:42:180:42:20

-We used to get 33 in the '60s.

0:42:210:42:25

-You'll sleep fine tonight.

0:42:250:42:26

-You'll sleep fine tonight.

-

-No, I won't.

0:42:260:42:27

-No, I won't.

0:42:270:42:27

-You will, because you're tired!

0:42:280:42:30

-This lot's better still.

0:42:320:42:34

-You know your sheep

-anyway, Dai Jones!

0:42:350:42:38

-These are from a different habitat.

0:42:430:42:45

-They're what they call

-"defaid gerlan".

0:42:460:42:49

-They come from the top

-of the mountain.

0:42:490:42:52

-Last Tuesday...

0:42:550:42:56

-Last Tuesday...

-

-THE AUCTIONEER SPEAKS

0:42:560:42:56

-THE AUCTIONEER SPEAKS

0:42:560:42:57

-Hang on - Dai, tell them...

0:42:570:42:59

-..last Tuesday

-these came off the mountain.

0:42:590:43:02

-Why can't he speak up for me?!

0:43:030:43:04

-Why can't he speak up for me?!

-

-Late at night too.

0:43:040:43:06

-They were late coming down.

0:43:060:43:08

-You did well.

0:43:220:43:23

-I didn't think

-they'd believe you were there!

0:43:240:43:27

-How did those prices

-compare with last year?

0:43:270:43:31

-Wait a minute - about 27

-last year - that's 6 less.

0:43:310:43:35

-It could have been worse, though.

0:43:370:43:40

-Thanks, but that's not really

-how I feel...

0:43:400:43:44

-..though things might turn out

-better by the end of the sale.

0:43:440:43:49

-They're strong sheep, otherwise

-you wouldn't have sold so many.

0:43:490:43:54

-Just give them a cross-bred ram.

0:43:540:43:56

-Farmers won't spend money

-in an insecure market.

0:43:570:44:00

-Lamb prices are low.

-We can't buck the market.

0:44:000:44:04

-If the money's not there, you can't.

0:44:040:44:05

-If the money's not there, you can't.

-

-Just hope it'll pick up.

0:44:050:44:07

-These ewes

-will give them two seasons.

0:44:070:44:10

-Well, you can comfort each other.

0:44:100:44:13

-You're in the ring -

-are you the spokesman?

0:44:130:44:16

-I get a row sometimes!

0:44:160:44:17

-I get a row sometimes!

-

-Mam always said...

0:44:170:44:19

-Mam always said...

0:44:190:44:19

-..he'd be a preacher

-or an auctioneer!

0:44:190:44:22

-Yes, the sheep were 6

-down on last year.

0:44:260:44:30

-They'll have to claw that money

-back somehow.

0:44:300:44:33

-It's good to get back to the hills

-to see the cattle.

0:44:340:44:39

-They live in a wonderful place.

0:44:390:44:42

-I've never seen cattle

-living so high up.

0:44:420:44:46

-How high are we?

0:44:460:44:47

-How high are we?

-

-About 1,000ft, I should think.

0:44:470:44:48

-About 1,000ft, I should think.

0:44:480:44:49

-You've gone Continental -

-you use Continental bulls.

0:44:520:44:56

-Yes - Blonde d'Aquitaine.

0:44:560:44:58

-We bought two bulls in Carlisle.

0:44:580:45:00

-They cost about 3,000.

0:45:020:45:04

-Before that, we used Limousins.

0:45:050:45:07

-But they weren't very good.

-These are a bit better.

0:45:080:45:12

-And the calving's easier.

0:45:140:45:16

-Yes, they just slip out.

0:45:160:45:17

-Yes, they just slip out.

-

-They're better than Charolais.

0:45:170:45:18

-They're better than Charolais.

0:45:180:45:19

-Oh yes.

0:45:190:45:20

-Calving after lambing - you must

-have been tired out after that.

0:45:210:45:25

-It was a lot of work.

0:45:270:45:30

-It's nearly the end of September.

-When will you bring them in?

0:45:300:45:35

-They'll soon need feeding.

0:45:360:45:38

-In about three weeks.

0:45:380:45:40

-In about three weeks.

-

-We've got heavy coats on...

0:45:400:45:40

-We've got heavy coats on...

0:45:400:45:42

-..but Rol's in his shirt sleeves!

0:45:420:45:43

-..but Rol's in his shirt sleeves!

-

-It's not terribly cold.

0:45:430:45:45

-..but Rol's in his shirt sleeves!

0:45:450:45:45

-It's not terribly cold today.

0:45:450:45:47

-It's the end of October,

-and today's a big day.

0:45:550:46:00

-The weather hasn't been bad,

-but it's windy.

0:46:000:46:03

-The neighbours have gathered

-to bring in the ponies...

0:46:040:46:08

-..and sort out the foals.

0:46:080:46:10

-It's a day and a half!

0:46:100:46:13

-This is important to me.

0:46:310:46:34

-My father, in his Will,

-left the ponies to Teg and me.

0:46:340:46:39

-We sold the weaker ones,

-and we have good ponies now.

0:46:390:46:44

-I saw a nice white one

-on the mountain.

0:46:440:46:48

-We sold 150 foals and ponies last

-year, and 150 the year before.

0:46:480:46:54

-How long will they stay here?

0:46:540:46:57

-Will you pick out the foals?

0:46:570:46:58

-Will you pick out the foals?

-

-Yes. They'll be here for two weeks.

0:46:580:47:00

-Yes. They'll be here for two weeks.

0:47:000:47:02

-Step back a bit.

0:47:020:47:05

-They're nice ponies.

0:47:110:47:13

-They're in very good condition.

0:47:130:47:15

-They're all looking good.

0:47:150:47:17

-Hey! Steady on, boys!

0:47:180:47:20

-There they go. Lovely.

0:47:200:47:22

-Rol, you have excellent neighbours.

-They've brought all the ponies down.

0:47:220:47:27

-Yes, we have...

0:47:270:47:29

-Yes, we have good neighbours.

0:47:490:47:51

-You couldn't find better.

0:47:530:47:54

-Our children's children

-are getting involved now.

0:47:550:47:58

-There's an excellent generation

-coming up.

0:47:580:48:01

-It's good to see

-them taking an interest...

0:48:010:48:05

-..and keeping

-the old traditions alive.

0:48:050:48:08

-You can't learn these things

-at college.

0:48:090:48:12

-They have to learn from childhood.

0:48:120:48:15

-How many acres do you have in all?

0:48:160:48:18

-How many acres do you have in all?

-

-We have over 2,000 acres...

0:48:180:48:20

-We have over 2,000 acres...

0:48:200:48:21

-..all told,

-from Penmaenmawr to Anglesey.

0:48:210:48:25

-And that's just lowland.

-You also have the mountain.

0:48:250:48:29

-We graze 5,000 acres

-on the mountain.

0:48:290:48:32

-We have over 4,000 mountain sheep.

0:48:320:48:35

-I remember my father

-telling Uncle Wil...

0:48:360:48:39

-.."Wil, my boys will never work

-for anyone except me."

0:48:390:48:43

-We're still working for him,

-although he's dead.

0:48:440:48:47

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