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-I've travelled a little further

-than usual today.

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-I've come to Herefordshire,

-and this is the city of Hereford.

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-With me is a Welsh-speaking Cardi

-who has lived here for many years.

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-Wmffre, what's your surname?

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-Wmffre, what's your surname?

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-I'm Dafydd Wmffre Williams Davies.

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-What a long name!

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-How long have you lived here?

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-How long have you lived here?

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-Since 24 September 1979.

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-There - he's giving us

-all the details already!

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-We'll soon learn more.

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-Very good.

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-It was a Sunday school trip...

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-..from Bwlch y Fadfa chapel,

-Talgarreg, near Llandysul...

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-..at the end of the '70s...

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-..that brought Wmffre Davies

-to Hereford, originally.

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-A few years later, he returned, to

-work at the Wyevale Garden Centre.

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-Today, he's a senior gardener.

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-It's early December.

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-Summer is Wmffre's busiest period.

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-What sparked this interest?

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-You were raised on a farm.

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-Agriculture and horticulture

-have their parallels.

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-Did gardening interest you as a boy?

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-We were three brothers.

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-With our father,

-early each summer...

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-..we'd spend six weeks

-sowing swedes.

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-My brother, Elwyn,

-was good with tractors.

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-I wasn't so good.

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-I was very impatient.

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-I'd hit my brother,

-then my father would hit me...

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-..and send me all alone

-into the garden.

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-You're starting to make me

-feel nervous!

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-No, no!

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-That's how it began.

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-I can remember the pea varieties

-we grew in 1965...

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-..Mentor, Victoria, Lincoln.

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-My father grew swedes

-all the year round...

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-..and carrots -

-James Scarlet Intermediate.

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-He grew Musselburgh leeks.

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-He always grew the same varieties.

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-With your store of knowledge, are

-you the one who plans everything?

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-Or are there rules telling you

-to do this and do that?

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-Do you rely on the knowledge

-in your head?

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-Yes.

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-It comes from the heart.

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-How much of your work

-involves organic principles?

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-Lots of farmers have gone organic.

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-They think it's the best thing ever.

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-Does horticulture

-have organic elements?

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-Well, you need

-a broad range of knowledge.

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-Organic farming used to be

-the only available method.

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-I believe they were closer to the

-earth and the seasons of the year.

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-How much land

-does this company have?

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-About 400 acres.

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-Work takes place

-all the year round, does it?

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-Yes.

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-Yes.

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-It's seasonal work, of course.

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-Planting in fields

-and growing trees...

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-..is the responsibility

-of the field department.

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-Plants can only be lifted

-between November and late March.

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-They're bare-rooted.

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-But over there...

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-You're going to Beirut?!

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-No, bare-rooted,

-with nothing around the roots!

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-Nothing to do with Beirut!

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-Potted plants

-can be sold throughout the year.

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-This garden centre is one

-of the largest in the country,

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-It's a very busy place.

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-In some of the sheds...

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-..you'll find

-mechanical planting equipment.

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-Wmffre himself

-has worked on these machines.

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-The machines can place flowering

-plants or trees in pots, can they?

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-Yes.

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-You place the plant in a pot and

-the machine fills it with soil.

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-Then it's moved on to the conveyor.

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-At the other end, someone takes the

-plants, puts them on a trailer...

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-..and sets them out in beds.

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-People work 12 hours a day,

-six days a week.

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-Lots of people work here.

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-Lots of people work here.

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-Yes, about 200 people.

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-I'm amazed to see

-the old Massey tractors.

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-How many do you have?

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-How many do you have?

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-About 30.

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-About 30 to 40.

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-And they're used to transport stuff.

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-If you count the trailers in the

-potting shed and in dispatch...

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-..there must be

-about 70 trailers in use.

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-You've worked in this area.

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-You've worked in this area.

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-Yes, for 10 years.

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-Well, I worked outside.

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-I looked after the plants

-and watered them...

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-..and got them ready for purchase

-in the garden centre.

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-And you did that for 10 years?

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-Yes, for 10 years, up until 1990,

-when I got the DCM.

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-I was a bit cheeky, you see.

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-DCM - is that a degree?

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-No - Don't Come Back Monday!

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-So after that, I got a job

-in the garden centre.

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-Instead of growing plants

-and getting them ready...

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-..I sold them to Joe Public.

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-I also gave people information

-about planting.

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-But during my time

-at the garden centre nursery...

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-..I went to Chelsea twice.

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-I worked on the stand, answering

-questions and handing out leaflets.

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-Did you have to wear a tie?

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-You're wearing a tie today.

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-I had to wear a tie

-in the garden centre.

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-I don't wear a tie in summer,

-but I wear one, most of the time.

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-You have to look the part -

-and you certainly do!

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-I need a new apron.

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-It reminds me of a kangaroo!

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-Shall we move on?

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-Each year, over two million plants

-are grown at the garden centre...

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-..in Hereford.

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-Wmffre has extensive experience

-of working in almost all areas.

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-There's a lot of work going on.

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-There are two lines...

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-..with 4,000 plants

-coming down each line every day.

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-Are these flowers

-being taken outside?

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-Rotted leaves are removed...

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-..and they're labelled.

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-At the end of the line,

-they're placed on a trolley.

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-The women have received training

-for the job.

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-They know what to remove.

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-When the plant arrives at the

-garden centre, it must be perfect.

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-When will they be delivered?

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-They'll reach the garden centre

-in a day or two.

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-What if one of the plants

-is substandard?

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-Is it given a second chance?

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-No, it's removed.

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-Do these women have families?

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-Yes.

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-Hereford is a large place.

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-I shouldn't think

-staffing is a problem.

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-They come from different countries,

-such as Poland, Bulgaria.

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-Ceredigion?!

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-It's a tough job,

-from early morning until evening.

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-They spend eight hours

-checking the same type of plant...

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-..and removing rotted leaves

-or fixing labels.

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-It's terribly monotonous.

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-How long have you worked here?

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-Thirty-five years.

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-Did you choose to move to Hereford

-for any particular reason?

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-I came to do a year's

-work experience in horticulture...

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-..then they offered me

-a better job...

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-..after I'd been here for a year.

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-I was just a student.

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-The job involved watering

-and looking after plants.

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-"Here's the pumphouse,

-here's the lance...

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-"..get on with it."

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-Of course, watering plants

-is as important today...

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-..as it was, years ago, when Wmffre

-started working at the centre.

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-There we go.

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-This has already taken up

-a lot of water.

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-It needs cutting back,

-in my opinion.

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-Do you carry out cutting

-and pruning?

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-Well, yes, but I'll ask someone

-to bring a hedge trimmer.

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-It's demanding too much water.

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-It drinks more than I do!

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-As a matter of curiosity,

-do horticulturalists drink beer?

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-Beer, or cider in summer.

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-It's good for quenching your thirst.

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-We drank cider

-at home on the farm, too.

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-My father would give me money

-to buy a bottle of Woodpecker...

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-..in Tafarn Bach.

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-When you took the flagon back,

-they'd give you sixpence.

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-Yes, for the empty flagon.

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-They made their own cider

-in this area.

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-It's always been a tradition

-in Herefordshire.

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-Every farm made cider.

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-As you ramble

-around Herefordshire...

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-..you'll see lots

-of cider apple orchards.

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-There are more of them here than

-in any other county in Britain.

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-Wmffre has learned a great deal

-about cider over the years.

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-These apples -

-are they cider apples?

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-There are two varieties,

-Michelin and Dabinett.

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-This operation supplies

-eight different cider factories...

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-..Bulmers, Magners...

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-..Gaymer.

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-So they're not apples

-that you can eat?

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-No, unlike Tom Putt,

-which you can cook and eat.

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-It's an old variety.

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-These are more recent varieties.

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-Costs must be quite low.

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-These trees are several years old.

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-These trees are several years old.

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-About 20 years old.

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-And they're harvested every year.

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-They're heavily pruned - they're

-not allowed to grow unrestricted.

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-How are the apples picked?

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-Are there machines available

-for this?

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-They use shakers.

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-The apples are graded - they're

-washed and put on a conveyor belt.

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-These days, in Herefordshire...

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-..growing apples brings more profit

-than keeping livestock.

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-The cost of land is so high...

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-..it's more economic

-to produce crops...

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-..rather than fatten lambs

-or cattle.

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-Is it a nice place to live?

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-Are the people nice?

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-Yes, but it takes a while

-to get to know them.

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-They study you.

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-Do they?

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-You could say I'm a Welsh-speaking

-Herefordian who drinks cider!

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-Indeed!

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-That's a long title

-for a man who's not very big!

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-Yes, I'm just a small bloke!

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-Hereford Rugby Club has always been

-an important place for Wmffre.

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-He has been a club coach,

-and he remains a loyal supporter.

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-In which year did you become

-involved with the rugby club?

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-In 1980 - 20 January.

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-The boys had returned after

-playing away in... what's it called?

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-The Arms Park.

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-I met Rory Davies,

-Dave Llewellyn and Dave Benjamin.

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-The club was the reason

-I stayed in Hereford.

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-It meant a lot to you

-because you made friends?

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-Yes, friends for life.

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-Did you play an active part

-in any of the club's activities?

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-Yes, I ran a team for over 20 years.

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-I was presented with an award

-in 2008...

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-..by North Mids

-Rugby Football Union...

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-..for service to English rugby.

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-I was presented

-with a crystal rugby ball...

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-..and a tie with a red rose on it.

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-I was a VIP -

-a Very Important Person!

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-Well done!

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-You've been involved

-in eminent positions...

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-..and you've received honours.

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-Were you involved with rugby

-before you left Ceredigion?

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-I started playing

-at Llandysul Grammar School.

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-I played blindside wing-forward

-in every game for three seasons.

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-Gareth Edwards

-won 55 consecutive caps.

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-I won 57 consecutive caps at school.

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-I was the team captain

-in my final year.

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-One year, I remember asking

-my father for a pair of boots.

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-He said, "Do you see the bracken

-on that hillside?

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-"If you scythe it,

-you'll get your boots."

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-I walked to Aberystwyth, bought

-my boots, and caught the bus home!

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-They asked me, last Saturday...

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-..I'd gone to watch

-the Luctonians...

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-..and Fat Sam Humph

-said, "Only 12? Game off."

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-I said, "Sorry, not involved

-with them," and went to the pub.

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-There, I bumped

-into some Hereford lads.

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-Humph said, "Can you come back

-and look after us?"

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-I said, "No, I swear - you're

-not allowed to swear these days!"

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-Wmffre has links

-with Rhiw Lug Farm, Tre-groes...

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-..where his mother grew up.

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-Every Thursday, a cattle market

-takes place in Hereford.

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-Wmffre enjoys going along

-to look at the stock.

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-AN AUCTIONEER

-SPEAKS IN THE BACKGROUND

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-Lots of fine Hereford cattle.

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-Steers.

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-Steers.

-

-I like their colour.

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-They've been kept inside.

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-They have far better coats

-than Continental breeds.

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-I know you don't eat their coats!

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-But they cope well with any weather.

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-They can withstand

-both hot and cold weather.

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-These days, you can buy embryos

-with American bloodlines.

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-I've seen them in New Zealand too.

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-With Welsh Blacks, you'll only find

-the bloodlines in Wales.

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-What are those flowers?

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-I picked them in the garden.

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-This variety

-is called Spirit Of Freedom...

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-..and this red one

-is Tess Of The D'Urbervilles.

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-Tess Of The D'Urbervilles.

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-It can grow in shade.

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-It's freshly cut.

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-I like flowers.

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-Years ago, when you went to a sale,

-you had to wear a buttonhole...

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-..you had to look the part.

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-You didn't just wear one

-at a wedding.

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-I'd wear flowers every day!

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-We'd better start planting!

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-Herefordshire agricultural produce

-isn't just sold at the mart.

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-Here's the famous Hereford bull.

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-Excellent!

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-It's always been a real market town.

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-It's solid!

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-They used a real bull as a model.

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-I'd prefer a white head.

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-I wouldn't argue with that.

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-In 1840, John Hewer Robinson

-stabilised the genetics...

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-..to produce a white head.

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-Previously, they were mottled

-or roan or all sorts of colours.

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-White heads then became

-a consistent feature.

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-It's good that the image

-celebrates tradition.

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-It's a good bull.

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-Fair play.

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-Let's go and do some shopping.

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-Look, apples.

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-Years ago, a man used to come round

-at this time of the year...

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-..selling boxes

-of apples for winter.

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-He would call everyone "Pwdryn".

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-He would call everyone "Pwdryn".

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-He called at Gwardafolog too.

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-He sold Bramleys

-and Cox's Orange Pippins.

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-This apple, Pitmaston Pineapple...

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-..grows in Glaslwyn,

-near Cwmdyllest - Edwin Cwmdyllest.

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-It originated in Herefordshire.

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-They're delicious apples, but

-unfortunately, they're very small.

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-Here's the Red Devil,

-a modern apple which has red flesh.

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-I have a tree in my garden

-that needs lifting.

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-I have 10 apple varieties

-growing in my garden.

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-Do you meet lots of people

-buying trees for their orchards?

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-Yes, I do.

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-I sell 31 varieties of apple trees.

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-Shall we move on?

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-I don't think I've ever spent

-so much time shopping!

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-Wmffre is very keen

-on the French game of petanque.

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-When he has the opportunity...

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-..he enjoys joining his friends

-to play against other local teams.

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-It's a simple game to watch,

-but not so easy to play well.

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-Here are three balls

-for you to play with, Dai.

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-The point of the game is this.

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-You throw this coloured ball,

-called a cochonnet, down the piste.

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-Then you stand inside a circle...

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-..and try to throw

-these ball bearings...

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-..as close as you can

-to the coloured ball.

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-First, you mark out a circle...

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-..in the gravel...

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-..using a stick, or something.

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-Then you take the cochonnet...

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-..and you throw it down the piste.

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-Not enough wheels.

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-Your turn now, Dai.

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-Do I stand in this circle?

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-Yes, and aim the ball

-at the cochonnet.

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-Your foot is outside the circle.

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-No throw.

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-Take it slowly.

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-That's out.

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-Good gracious!

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-You're getting closer!

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-There you go, Dai!

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-Good shot!

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-I'm getting there!

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-One point for you, none for me.

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-I think I've played this in France.

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-Well, someone asked me

-if I'd like a shot.

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-I saw people playing on the streets

-and in villages.

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-You often see frail, elderly people

-playing 'plonk'.

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-Just because I've won, there's

-no need to call it 'plonk'...

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-..or talk about

-'frail, elderly people'!

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-It was a good shot -

-beginner's luck!

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-Wmffre has a particular

-important ambition...

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-..to honour his family background

-in the Pont-sian and Talgarreg area.

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-He intends to plant 14 trees

-on land belonging to Esgair Farm...

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-..to commemorate

-members of his family.

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-Close to the farm are the remains of

-a Norman motte and bailey castle...

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-..called Castell Hwmffre...

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-..from which his name derives.

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-I want to plant the trees

-on land close to the castle.

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-My brother has given me permission.

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-I phoned him this week to discuss

-my idea of planting trees.

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-Let's take a look at the trees.

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-The names are all familiar to you.

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-This one is for my father.

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-He was buried at Bwlch y Fadfa.

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-His great-great-grandfather

-was born in 1760.

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-He died in 1840,

-in Yr Hen Gapel in Llwynrhydowen.

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-That was before the eviction.

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-Dyffryn Clettwr, Lydia.

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-Lydia was Arwel's wife.

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-She came from Capel Iwan.

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-They're still farming there.

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-Yes, they farm

-at Gwardafolog and Esgair.

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-They work double the hours I work.

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-If I work 45 hours,

-they work 90 hours or more.

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-And they earn half the money!

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-They're oak trees, aren't they?

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-Yes, oak trees

-that grow tall and slender.

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-Strong roots, too.

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-Will you transport them on a lorry?

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-Yes, though I can take

-the smaller ones...

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-..in a trailer

-behind the Land Rover.

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-The bigger ones will need a lorry.

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-I come to the conclusion...

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-..judging by the way

-you speak about these names...

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-..and the tone of your voice...

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-..that you feel yourself

-to be far from home.

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-Hiraeth, you mean?

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-Yes, I can hear hiraeth

-in your voice.

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-Is that right?

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-Is that right?

-

-Yes.

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-This is an unusual idea, and you've

-put a lot of thought into it.

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-These trees will stand for ever,

-commemorating that era.

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-They'll be there when I'm gone.

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-They'll keep on growing,

-maybe for centuries.

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