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-Over the years...

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-..I've had the pleasure of meeting

-legendary characters of rural Wales.

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-In September 1993, I met Defi John

-and his brother, Brynmor Jones...

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-..the kings of Frongoy Stud

-in Ceredigion.

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-Their Welsh cobs

-were famous throughout the country.

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-We've built the cathedral -

-it's up to them to keep it going...

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-..to maintain it.

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-Twenty-three years later,

-we meet the next generation...

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-..the fifth generation,

-still maintaining the cathedral...

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-..built by Defi John

-and his brothers.

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-I hope I live long enough to teach

-him every trick in the book.

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-THE FRONGOY FAMILY

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-I said this many years ago...

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-..and it's still true today...

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-..Welsh cobs and Cardis go together

-like a bucket and spade.

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-This small corner of Ceredigion,

-near Aberaeron...

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-..is a stronghold for cobs.

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-Anyone and everyone

-who is a fan of Welsh cobs...

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-..has visited this place.

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-I'm on my way to Frongoy -

-my idea of paradise!

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-On my last visit, Dafydd was a baby

-and Sion hadn't been born.

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-Today, Dafydd is a fit young man, 24

-years old, and Sion is 20 years old.

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-Both are chips

-off the old Frongoy block.

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-Gwyn, their father, continues to

-bring success to the Frongoy Stud...

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-..in major competitions

-at our leading show.

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-I'm looking

-at the immortals' gallery.

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-Those are just championships

-at the Royal Welsh Show.

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-Yes - we've won other prizes,

-but those are the main winnings.

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-The cards on the left are all

-for the Prince of Wales Cup...

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-..Section D,

-with Section C on the other side.

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-At the top, Tom & Sprightly winners

-- we've won five or six times.

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-Here, we have two young stallions.

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-That's Fronarth Joshua with Dafydd -

-he's doing well.

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-He moves well -

-I like his front legs.

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-And with Sion - are they related?

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-Yes, they trace back to mares

-used by the stud in the 1930s.

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-That's Prince of Wales with Sion.

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-He's a son of Model Lady.

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-He's a son of Model Lady.

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-She won the Prince of Wales Cup.

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-Yes, she won

-the Prince of Wales Cup in 2007.

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-This stallion

-was a young foal at the time...

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-..so we named him Prince of Wales.

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-It's a good name.

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-It's nice that your sons

-have a keen interest.

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-You must be proud to watch them

-on a showground or here at home.

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-Very proud - it's nice to see them

-doing a good job and succeeding.

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-Those horses are warming up!

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-If you have a special cob...

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-..the best place in the world

-for showing him off...

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-..is at the Royal Welsh Show

-on the Wednesday afternoon.

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-Frongoy cobs

-have thrilled the crowds...

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-..and they have won

-the main championship eight times.

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-It's something to aim for.

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-When a foal is born...

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-..you wonder if it's good enough to

-win the cup at the Royal Welsh Show.

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-Defi John experienced

-several memorable years.

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-Anglesey, England.

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-Yes, all kinds of places.

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-I like the display.

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-I like the display.

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-We know where they are!

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-The black mare - is that Boneddiges?

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-The black mare - is that Boneddiges?

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-That's right - Boneddiges.

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-And Cyttir Telynor, her father.

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-I'm beginning to understand.

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-That's Welsh Model.

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-Didn't the roan horse

-win a special prize?

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-Yes, two - in-hand and driving.

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-The same day?

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-The younger generation

-had a great year in 2014.

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-This is Super Model, led by Dafydd,

-winning the Prince of Wales Cup.

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-The crowd acknowledges

-Dafydd Jones's achievements.

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-Without a doubt,

-2014 was the pinnacle...

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-..for me, and for us as a family...

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-..as we watched Dafydd

-win the Prince of Wales Cup.

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-It's the best feeling ever.

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-Dafydd also won

-the supreme championship...

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-..with his Suffolk sheep...

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-..and Sion won the supreme

-championship with his Kerry Hills.

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-This triple crown

-put Frongoy's fifth generation...

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-..in prime position

-for both cobs and sheep.

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-Dafydd's new home is a stone's throw

-from the family farm.

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-Cefn-gwrthafarn Isaf is a huge house

-for a young bachelor.

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-The surrounding land...

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-..is a perfect habitat

-for his champion Suffolk sheep.

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-I keep my pedigree sheep here.

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-King of your own castle!

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-Many of these sheep are home-bred.

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-Yes, I'm developing my own lines.

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-One of the ewes, a reserve champion

-at the Royal Welsh in 2012...

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-..has produced several good rams.

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-I've had eggs removed from her.

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-I've started flushing her.

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-Do you use AI?

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-Yes, I use AI with all of them.

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-Getting the timing right is tricky.

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-Yes, it can be tricky, and the lambs

-are all born at the same time.

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-A shed is really useful

-when the weather is bad.

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-Ewes must give birth,

-whatever the weather.

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-I'm lucky to have the shed.

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-I could hear the shears

-from the bottom of the yard!

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-Is this a busy time for you?

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-Yes, I'm preparing for a sale

-next week.

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-I'm selling 12 ram lambs.

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-These are lambs?

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-These are lambs?

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-Ram lambs, yes.

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-Good gracious, they're big!

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-How did you become interested?

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-You also keep horses and cattle.

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-Are sheep your favourites?

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-Are sheep your favourites?

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-Yes, they are, definitely.

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-I bought a few rams

-for cross-breeding...

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-..then I chose a few Suffolk ewes,

-and took it from there.

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-You're doing well.

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-Is it like breeding cattle?

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-Do you focus on certain bloodlines?

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-It's nice to follow certain lines.

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-Suffolks used to be

-a very popular old breed.

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-At one time, marts were packed

-with black-headed lambs.

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-These days,

-Continental breeds predominate.

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-You need Suffolks for weight.

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-If they get any bigger,

-you'll need planning permission!

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-They're big!

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-Sion, the younger son,

-is a part-time farmer.

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-Agriculture is in his blood...

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-..but his sights are turned towards

-the sea and Llanon village...

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-..where he makes sausages.

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-Hello!

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-Are you busy?

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-Are you busy?

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-How are you?

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-The weather's fine.

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-Yes, it is.

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-Yes, it is.

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-It's glorious.

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-How is the heir?

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-There he is.

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-Sion, how are you?

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-Sion, how are you?

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-Alright?

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-Are you making sausages?

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-What type of sausages are they?

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-Pork and apple.

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-How long have you worked here?

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-How long have you worked here?

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-Since I was 12 years old.

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-Since you were 12 years old?

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-Since you were 12 years old?

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-I'd help out at Christmas.

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-Did Ben teach you?

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-Yes, he taught me everything.

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-I could have become a farmer,

-but this is different.

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-You don't have much time

-for holidays.

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-Do you ever manage to get away?

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-Do you ever manage to get away?

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-Not very often.

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-Is he a good boss?

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-Is he a good boss?

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-On days off, I go to shows or sales.

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-Do you enjoy working at the counter?

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-Do you enjoy working at the counter?

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-I like talking to people.

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-You've trained as a butcher,

-but talking is in your blood!

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-Yes!

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-Yes!

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-A legacy of your family at Frongoy!

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-Yes!

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-Yes!

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-You've got everything!

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-This is a nice spot.

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-I'll see you at the farm.

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-I don't want you

-messing up the sausages!

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-See you later.

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-My backside and your belly!

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-They don't leave much of a gap!

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-Nice to see you!

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-Call again!

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-When he isn't making sausages...

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-..Sion takes care of his flock of

-Kerry Hill sheep at Frongoy Farm.

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-They look smart.

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-How many do you have?

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-I have 55.

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-Your brother chose Suffolk sheep.

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-Why are you keen on this breed?

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-I wanted to be a young handler

-when I was nine or ten years old...

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-..so my grandfather

-bought me one of these.

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-I've been showing them ever since -

-it's great fun.

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-You've done well, fair play.

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-You enjoy showing

-and it's in your blood.

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-We've had a few good years.

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-My Kerry Hills

-won at the Royal Welsh in 2011.

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-That was the first time.

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-I also won the supreme championship

-at the Smallholders Show...

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-..with the same sheep.

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-I had a good year in 2014, too.

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-This year has been a big year, too -

-you've started judging.

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-I was a judge at this year's

-biggest Kerry Hill sale.

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-I bought most of the winners.

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-Might as well!

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-That's the way to succeed!

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-You need a plan!

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-How old are you?

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-I'm 20 years old.

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-You talk as if

-you've been around for 2,000 years!

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-I learned well from the old boys!

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-Yes, you have!

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-You've thought of everything!

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-Excellent!

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-The younger Frongoy lads

-are diversifying...

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-..and making a name for themselves

-with their sheep.

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-But their father, Gwyn,

-is a dedicated cob man.

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-There are very few people...

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-..whose horses

-have won so many prizes...

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-..and here they are, in one field.

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-All three mares

-have won at the Royal Welsh...

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-..the prestigious

-Prince of Wales Cup.

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-All three of them?

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-All three of them?

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-Yes, the three mares in this field.

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-They trace back

-to the old bloodlines.

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-Welsh Model was the mother

-of two of the mares.

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-We can trace them back to the 1930s.

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-Model Lady is 20 years old -

-she won in 2007.

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-Lausanne, over there, is

-15 years old, and she won in 2006.

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-Super Model is the youngest mare,

-and she won in 2014.

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-That's quite a record.

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-Yes, it is.

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-And each time we win,

-that horse is the best ever!

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-It spurs us on

-to achieve even more.

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-We want to carry on winning

-and to carry on breeding.

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-Sometimes, you look

-at a new-born foal...

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-..and think,

-"This is a good one."

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-Back in September 1993...

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-..I brought the Cefn Gwlad cameras

-to Frongoy, Pennant, Ceredigion...

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-..to meet

-two unique Welsh cob breeders...

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-..Defi John and his brother,

-Brynmor Jones.

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-The old boys of Frongoy

-are no longer with us...

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-..but their successors, Gwyn Jones

-and his sons, Dafydd and Sion...

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-..carry on the tradition.

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-The younger generation...

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-..builds on the firm foundations

-of its inheritance.

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-It has also inherited

-the talent for breeding champions.

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-Are these

-your older Section C mares?

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-Yes - this is Nightshade, a winner

-at this year's Royal Welsh Show.

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-She was a youngstock champion.

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-Her foal was born

-just before the Royal Welsh Show.

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-Will you keep the foals?

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-Will you keep the foals?

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-Yes, we'll keep them.

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-We need replacements

-for the older mares.

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-That's the mother of Robben.

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-Minafon Sioned -

-she's 23 years old - with her foal.

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-She's nice.

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-She's a half-sister to Robben.

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-That's right, a half-sister.

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-That's right, a half-sister.

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-They're so tame.

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-This field

-is next to a caravan site...

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-..and children

-bring bread and carrots...

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-..which helps to tame them.

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-They won't be so tame

-when we move them to the house.

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-She's very tame indeed.

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-She seems interested in the cameras!

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-Yes, she is!

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-She might become a film star!

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-She might become a film star!

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-Or work for S4C!

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-Section C cob types

-and harness driving...

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-..were Defi John's chief delight.

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-He won the driving championship many

-times at the show in Llanelwedd.

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-I'm sure he would be proud to see

-his youngest successor, Sion...

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-..following in his footsteps.

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-Though Sion is also motivated

-by the lure of money.

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-What's this?

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-He has pretty legs!

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-He's a Section C colt.

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-Fronarth Flash Alli.

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-Sion is his owner.

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-Will Sion keep him for showing?

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-He's caught a whiff of money

-with his sheep...

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-..and now he wants to sell the colt.

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-It's in his blood.

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-The colt moves nicely.

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-Does he hark back to the old breed?

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-Yes - Gwelfro Tywysog

-is one of his great-grandfathers.

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-He looks like he could be a winner

-in harness.

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-Section C has always been important

-at Frongoy.

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-Yes, we've won the Section C

-championship six times...

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-..at the Royal Welsh Show.

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-Gwelfro Tywysog won 11 times

-in harness driving competitions.

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-On his last day, he also won

-the Section C championship, in-hand.

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-He won the double.

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-He won the double.

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-He was handsome roan stallion.

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-He was extremely handsome.

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-The farm's greatest star

-is in the stable at the end.

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-What do you have in here?

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-This is Fronarth Robben.

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-He has a good head.

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-He has a good head.

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-He's one of our favourites.

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-He's a consistent winner.

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-He won the Section C championship

-three times in succession.

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-Do you have any of his offspring?

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-Do you have any of his offspring?

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-Yes, a couple of nice fillies.

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-His services as a stallion

-are in high demand.

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-I'm not surprised -

-he's won so many prizes.

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-As soon as he was born,

-I knew he was special.

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-"A superstar has been born."

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-That's the truth.

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-Within a few hours,

-he acted like he owned the place!

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-Looking after them well is crucial.

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-Keeping their legs clean and so on.

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-Keeping their legs clean and so on.

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-He's taken a fancy to me!

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-Nicky, Gwyn's wife

-and the boys' mother...

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-..is a key member

-of the family team at Frongoy.

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-With so many horse and stables,

-the work never ends.

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-Hard work is a way of life.

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-This is Prince of Wales, is it?

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-This is Prince of Wales, is it?

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-Yes - Model Lady is his mother.

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-Sparc is his father.

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-You do a lot of washing, Nicky?

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-You do a lot of washing, Nicky?

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-Yes, I do the washing and trimming.

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-Dafydd helps

-with most of the cleaning out.

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-It's a lot of work -

-washing, preparing.

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-And there's a heck of a lot

-of horses to clean out and feed.

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-Oh, it is - I'm glad the boys are

-young and fit, they help us a lot.

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-Which of you is most involved

-with horses?

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-Him.

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-I'm more involved with horses.

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-I'm more involved with horses.

-

-I'm starting to get interested.

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-You work as a butcher.

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-No wonder

-you're keen on making money!

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-That's right!

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-There's plenty of work

-with the sheep.

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-You have four different breeds.

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-You have four different breeds.

-

-They're keen on sheep and horses.

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-It's a lot of hard work,

-but it's worth it.

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-It's autumn, and another busy year

-of competing draws to an end.

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-They've travelled to shows

-all over the country.

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-Sales begin, and the Llanelwedd

-sale is an important event.

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-Sales are vital

-for creating profits...

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-..so that further investment

-can be made in the bloodlines...

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-..thus securing

-Frongoy's continuing success.

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-Several horses

-have sold for over 10,000.

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-One foal sold for 12,000 -

-Telynores Goch.

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-That's good money for a foal.

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-A young filly.

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-She was the first

-to sell for 12,000.

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-Later, another foal

-fetched the same price.

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-Selling horses is different.

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-You sell sheep, cattle and rams -

-they're commercial sales.

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-Horses are an infrequent purchase.

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-And sales take place

-just once a year.

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-You take part every year

-at the Royal Welsh Show.

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-You're eminent competitors.

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-It's a good way

-of advertising your horses.

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-The bloodlines must be good.

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-These days, lots of people

-want white markings.

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-They want horses for riding.

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-But the old type will prevail.

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-A cob must be capable

-of being ridden...

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-..but they're better known

-for showing in-hand.

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-That's our focus.

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-Some foals are more suitable

-for riding, of course.

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-But we hope to show

-the best fillies.

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-Fortunately,

-it's a versatile breed.

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-For me, this field

-has memorable associations.

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-I remember filming the remarkable

-old mares in this field.

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-It's nice the see

-the continuation of the lines.

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-The far end of this field...

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-..is where we buried the two best

-mares, Boneddiges and Welsh Model...

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-..next to each other.

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-They liked this field,

-and here they remain.

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-Boneddiges...

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-..and Welsh Model.

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-They were the stars of Frongoy

-when I visited 23 years ago.

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-Gwyn was a young lad at the time...

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-..running the horses

-in front of Defi John and me.

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-I could have spent all day

-watching them.

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-I can still remember the thrill.

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-Yes, the roots are deep

-in the fertile earth at Frongoy.

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-It's so good to see continuity.

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-The love of cobs is handed down

-from generation to generation.

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-It must have been good

-to grow up around the old boys.

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-It was a pleasure.

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-They were like fathers to us.

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-How much do you remember?

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-You were very young,

-the last time I visited.

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-You spent many years

-in their company.

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-Defi John was the first to go.

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-We learned a lot from them,

-over the years.

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-We spent more time with Brynmor

-because he lived longer.

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-But I remember Defi John well -

-Defi John and his horses.

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-It's nice that you're carrying on

-with the traditions.

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-It's nice to be where you grew up...

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-..thinking of them

-looking down at you.

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-I'm sure they're happy.

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-I'm sure they are.

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-Do you always finish

-your brother's sentences?!

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-I'm sure Defi John...

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-..would be delighted

-with our successes.

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-Dafydd, fair play to him,

-is the fifth generation.

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-I hope another generation

-will follow.

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-I remember Defi John

-commenting on Dafydd...

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-.."I hope I live long enough to

-teach him every trick in the book."

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-I hope they enjoy it

-as much as I've done...

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-..and experience the same success.

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-I'd be very proud.

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Dai Jones sy'n ymweld a Gwyn a Nicky Jones a'r meibion ar Fferm Frongoy, Pennant, Ceredigion, 23 o flynyddoedd wedi ei ymweliad diwethaf. Dai visits Frongoy Farm, Pennant, Ceredigion.


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