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-# Remember

-# Remember #

-Hello and welcome to Cofio...

-..where the memories of familiar

-Welsh faces come alive...

-..as we delve into the archive.

-Music is our theme tonight.

-One of Wales's original rock chicks

-is sharing her experiences with us.

-Her pure, soul-packed voice

-has charmed several generations.

-A warm welcome to you...

-..Heather Jones.

-You're still rocking.

-Of course. I'm rocking better now

-because my guitar playing is better.

-Let's go back to bygone days...

-..and start with an early pop video.

-Here,

-you're singing Paid Ag Eistedd.

-# Don't sit down

-# Stand on your feet

-# Don't throw my heart

-# Into the mud

-# Don't forget the bygone days

-# And take your hands

-# Away from mine

-# And take your hands

-# Away from mine #

-That was a clip from the late 1970s.

-I think so, yes -

-1978, maybe, or 1977.

-You recognize the year

-by your hairstyle.

-I didn't like that style. I looked

-very young and very slim there.

-When was your big break

-into Welsh music and television?

-I was singing in a concert

-in Cardiff in 1966.

-Dr Meredydd Evans was there.

-He saw me performing on stage...

-..and asked me to attend

-an audition at the BBC.

-I thought he was auditioning me

-for Disc A Dawn...

-..but Hob Y Deri Dando

-was the first programme.

-I remember singing Plaisir D'Amour.

-Joan Baez was popular at the time.

-After that, I worked for TWW.

-I think the programme

-was called Sgubor Lawen.

-It was similar to Hob Y Deri Dando.

-Then came Disc A Dawn.

-After that,

-people wanted me to make a record.

-They were records in those days.

-After someone makes a record,

-the songs are played on the radio.

-Their music is heard across Wales.

-It has a snowball effect

-For me, it still hasn't stopped.

-Thank goodness.

-What about your musical influences?

-Who influenced you the most?

-Well, at home,

-Mam and Dad played Mario Lanza.

-Anything operatic.

-Mam sang in a choir.

-Opera was popular in our house.

-Then I heard The Beatles

-for the first time - Love Me Do.

-That's when I realized

-I liked pop more than opera.

-The Beatles were my greatest

-influence in the early 1960s.

-The Fab Four visited Wales.

-Here's a clip of The Beatles

-arriving in Bangor by train...

-..with the Maharishi.

-I went to see them in 1965...

-..in the Capitol in Cardiff.

-I was in the second row.

-I was the only woman there

-trying to listen.

-All the others were

-standing on their seats screaming.

-I was telling them to be quiet

-because I wanted to hear the guitar.

-At that time,

-women just screamed at The Beatles.

-I was so upset, Heledd, so upset.

-I couldn't hear a word.

-It was hopeless for them too.

-No-one could hear the music -

-just the screams.

-It was right in the middle

-of a music revolution.

-Of course.

-Just after The Beatles, people

-started writing protest songs.

-At the time, I was a big fan

-of Joan Baez and Bob Dylan.

-Dafydd Iwan was

-writing protest songs in Wales...

-..and Meic Stevens too.

-There was further change after

-The Beatles, during the same era.

-The next clip

-is an absolute classic.

-It's a clip that takes us back

-to see Dafydd Iwan in the 1970s.

-It's a programme

-called 04, 05, Ac Ati.

-This was a music show which gave

-many performers a stage in the 1970s.

-A young Idris Charles

-presented the show.

-The train at Aberystwyth Station...

-..is heading for 04, 05, Ac Ati

-on the line.

-Hello there.

-Welcome to 04, 05 Ac Ati.

-We've left the studio tonight

-and reached Aberystwyth Station.

-We'll soon be heading

-for Devil's Bridge.

-Dafydd Iwan is waiting for us

-somewhere along the line.

-# Do you remember the Beasley family

-# Who refused to pay the tax?

-# People of Llanelli were saying

-# "They're fools - what for?"

-# Remember their sacrifice

-# And their vision

-# Yes, I recall the hour

-# Do you remember Tryweryn valley

-# At the launch of treason's dam?

-# Welshmen's angry protests

-# Drowned English speeches

-# Do you remember?

-# Too late, Welshman

-# Yes, I recall the hour #

-You requested that clip...

-..as Dafydd Iwan was, and still is,

-one of your heroes.

-Absolutely. I loved Dafydd. To be

-honest, I had a crush on Dafydd.

-The truth is coming out tonight!

-He used to sing in Glan-llyn

-and everyone loved him.

-We loved his voice

-and he looked so wonderful.

-He wrote original songs

-which were different.

-Everyone wanted to be like Dafydd

-Iwan and writing protest songs.

-He was an icon for Welsh singers.

-He was able to light a flame

-deep within you.

-Every time.

-Over the years, you've been

-compared with another Welsh singer.

-Oh, yes. I know who you mean.

-Mary Hopkin.

-Mary Hopkin.

-

-Yes, Mary Hopkin.

-We'll step back to the 1960s now

-to watch a clip of Mary Hopkin...

-..when she topped the charts

-for the first time.

-# Those Were The Days #

-Paul McCartney - sung by Mary Hopkin

-# Once upon a time

-there was a tavern

-# Where we used to raise

-a glass or two

-# Remember

-how we laughed away the hours

-# Think of all the great things

-we would do

-# Those were the days, my friend

-# We thought they'd never end

-# We'd sing and dance

-forever and a day #

-Mr Hopkin, it's a big night

-for you and Mary. How do you feel?

-I feel alright

-but I don't know about Mary.

-Mary's top of the pops...

-..the first girl

-from the Swansea Valley to do that.

-How do you feel?

-I feel great about it.

-You feel on top of the pops

-as a family. What about her mother?

-She's delighted.

-One question for both of you...

-..when can we expect to hear Mary

-singing in Welsh again?

-Another record will be released

-soon on the Cambrian label.

-What's the title of the record?

-Mary ac Edward.

-Mary ac Edward.

-We all look forward to hearing it.

-Mary, congratulations to you.

-From everyone in the Swansea Valley

-and from everyone in Wales...

-..good luck tonight.

-..good luck tonight.

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-Thank you.

-There have been comparisons

-between you over the years.

-She had a beautiful voice

-and she was so beautiful herself.

-I can understand

-why she was so popular.

-A lot of people said

-I was trying to copy Mary Hopkin.

-I knew Mary...

-..we both had voice training at the

-same time with Valetta Yakopi...

-..or Violet Jones

-as she was really called!

-I remember us walking with her

-around Cardiff - she was very shy.

-I always remember

-her lovely personality.

-I caught up with her again

-earlier this year.

-She asked me to sing

-a few songs she'd written.

-I asked Geraint Jarman

-to translate them into Welsh for me.

-I'm going to release

-a CD of the songs in the future.

-Everything's come full circle.

-She's still a lovely woman.

-I'm so lucky to have met her again.

-We'll take a break.

-Join us after the break

-when we return to Glan-llyn...

-..to see the influence

-the Welsh language had on Heather.

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-Welcome back.

-Heather Jones guides us

-on a trip down memory lane.

-The Urdd camp in Glan-llyn

-made quite an impression on Heather.

-Heather will certainly empathize

-with the girl in the next clip.

-She was the subject of a song

-by Edward H Dafis - Jane.

-# In a village called Cilfynydd

-# The Urdd organization

-gained a new member

-# Her name, my friends

-# Was Jane

-# Surrounded by a sea of English

-# Determined,

-she showed she was willing

-# To learn the language

-forgotten in her local area

-# Have you heard about Jane?

-# Jane is a lovely young girl

-# Jane learnt Welsh

-# She's a member of the Urdd

-# There was no Welsh on the streets

-# Around her home in the Valleys

-# That was Jane's uphill struggle

-# Have you heard about Jane?

-# Jane is a lovely young girl

-# Bon voyage,

-as you progress, Jane #

-That song

-could have been written about you.

-That's where you became

-more aware of Welshness.

-Certainly. It was a wonderful place.

-It was the first time

-I'd heard Welsh spoken all day...

-..and the first time

-I'd heard a North-Walian accent.

-I came from

-a non-Welsh speaking family.

-I shared a room with other girls.

-I had my own room at home

-since I didn't have any sisters.

-It was great

-sharing a room with other girls.

-We had midnight feasts

-and played the guitar...

-..and met people such as Dewi Pws.

-I remember Dewi playing the guitar

-and teaching me.

-Is that where you met him?

-Is that where you met him?

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-Yes, in 1964.

-I wrote it in one of the diaries

-I keep at home.

-It was a wonderful experience.

-Being away from home without

-my parents was a novelty too.

-We all enjoy that experience.

-As well as appearing

-on music programmes...

-..your voice was used

-as a backdrop to other programmes.

-Here's a clip of a magazine

-programme from the 1970s - Seren Wib.

-It was presented

-by Sharon Morgan and Emyr Glasnant.

-You sang the title music.

-# Shooting star

-# Shooting star

-# Shooting star #

-Welcome to another journey

-on the shooting star.

-What's happening this week, Emyr?

-Julian is wearing

-a rather different denim jacket.

-It has a hood

-and a zip down the front.

-This costs about 1.15.

-Under the jacket, he's wearing

-a denim shirt which costs 7.

-Diane is wearing a boiler suit - the

-trousers and top are one garment.

-This costs 1.15.

-Under the suit, Diane's wearing

-a white shirt with red stripes.

-This is very expensive

-even though it's a cotton shirt.

-It costs 10.

-Finally - the cap.

-The cap costs 2.75.

-# Shooting star shining brightly #

-The male models

-were having a great time!

-Where's Julian now?

-We showed that clip because you

-have a keen interest in fashion.

-You have a denim suit...

-You have a denim suit...

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-A jacket like that and jeans.

-All the cast who appeared

-in the pantomime Pwyll Gwyllt...

-..people such as Sbardun,

-signed their names on the jeans.

-I still have them at home.

-I've kept a lot of items.

-Do you have items from every decade?

-Do you have items from every decade?

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-Yes, since the 1960s.

-I have a lot of clothes from Biba.

-You're too young to remember Biba.

-Biba was very trendy,

-a lovely place to visit.

-Next, we're going to see a clip...

-..which includes the song

-we most associate with you.

-Colli Iaith is synonymous

-with the Tryweryn campaign.

-Would you say that this

-is one of your most iconic songs?

-Without a doubt.

-People still ask to hear that song

-wherever I go.

-I was singing in a relatively

-English-speaking area last week...

-..and someone shouted out,

-"Colli Iaith."

-I had to sing it. When I get

-a request I have to do it.

-We have footage of the people

-who lived in Capel Celyn...

-..before Tryweryn

-was drowned in the 1960s.

-Heather sings Colli Iaith

-as a backdrop to the footage.

-# Losing a language

-# And losing dignity

-# Losing muse

-# Losing bardism

-# Losing the golden crown of society

-# And in its place

-# A shallow, wasted language

-# Losing creed

-# Losing soul

-# Losing the faith

-# And forefathers' courage

-# Losing everything

-pure and beautiful

-# And in its place

-# Dirt and mud

-# Losing land

-# And losing smallholdings

-# Losing Elan

-# And Tryweryn

-# Losing Claerwen

-# And Llanwddyn

-# And the whole country

-# Beneath the dam's water

-# Let's retrieve

-# From the door of death

-# A song and faith

-# And respect for a dear language

-# Let's retrieve

-# The old heritage

-# So Wales can start

-# Another journey #

-Very sad.

-You had the opportunity recently...

-..to sing that song

-at a special event.

-Ffred Ffransis invited me...

-..to a protest march opposing

-school closures in Wales.

-He asked me to sing Colli Iaith

-on the banks of Llyn Celyn.

-It was very hard for me,

-I must say.

-I didn't understand its significance

-when it actually happened.

-I didn't listen to news

-in the 1960s.

-When Meic Stevens wrote Tryweryn...

-..I thought,

-"Gosh, did this really happen?"

-I couldn't believe it.

-I translated it into English...

-..so others

-could understand what happened.

-I sing Tryweryn

-in English and Welsh.

-It's a song that stirs the emotions,

-especially with images like that.

-I've never seen that clip before.

-I couldn't believe it.

-It was very sad.

-To finish on a happier note,

-when did you gain a language?

-When did you start speaking Welsh?

-When I was married to Geraint,

-I spoke English.

-I was still learning Welsh.

-When Geraint and I separated...

-..I decided I had to make an effort.

-One of my friends, Catrin Edwards,

-who wrote Paid Ag Eistedd...

-..she told me in 1980 that she would

-never speak English to me again.

-She kept her word.

-That was the turning point for me.

-If I had to speak Welsh to Catrin,

-I had to speak Welsh to everyone.

-1980 - I was about ten years old!

-I'd like to wish you

-a happy birthday.

-I know it's passed but it's a

-special birthday for you this year.

-It's passed

-and I'm glad it's all over.

-I'm 60 now. It sounds so old.

-You can hardly

-tell the difference between you...

-..and the picture behind you.

-I have a few extra lines.

-Thank you very much.

-It's been a pleasure.

-Thank you for inviting me.

-I've enjoyed myself.

-Thank you, Heather,

-for sharing her memories with us.

-That's it for this week. Goodnight.

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