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-In this programme, Imogen talks

-about Miss Wales and Big Brother.

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-Treflyn Jones,

-a man who has several catsuits...

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-..and the figure to wear them.

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-Eleri Jones, an artist

-who draws inspiration from clothes.

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-Welcome to Cwpwrdd Dillad.

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-Imogen, I feel as though I know you!

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-I want to ask you about the night

-you entered the Big Brother house.

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-Before you went into the house...

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-..how did you approach the task of

-buying all the clothes you needed?

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-I wanted to wear something classy

-to go in...

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-..and something sexy to come out.

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-I didn't know what I should buy

-because it was early summer.

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-I needed a few bikinis

-but there weren't any in the shops.

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-I thought,

-"Oh! What am I going to buy?"

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-Did you take a friend, a stylist

-or an advisor with you?

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-My friend spent the weekend

-shopping with me.

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-I couldn't tell her

-why I needed all those clothes.

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-I told her I was going on holiday...

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-..and I asked her to come along

-and help me choose clothes.

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-What made you decide to look classy

-on the night you entered the house?

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-I thought about it...

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-..and I realized everyone

-would watch the opening night.

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-I wanted to wear something classy.

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-When I chose that long skirt,

-I knew it was perfect.

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-That was the look I wanted.

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-It was summery with that yellow top.

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-I wanted to wear a sort

-of Caribbean-Spanish style.

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-I wanted to go in as a classy girl

-and come out as a sexy woman.

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-That's exactly what I did.

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-I remember you wearing

-these dungarees in the house.

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-Are they comfortable?

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-Are they comfortable?

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-Yes. My mother doesn't like these!

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-They're comfortable

-and that's why I bought them.

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-I was convinced

-this was Nikki's top.

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-She wore it all the time.

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-Yes, Nikki wore it every day,

-with hot pants, but it's my top.

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-She loved it!

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-You wore this top and a pair

-of shorts on your eviction night.

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-Yes. I thought this was a sexy top

-which I could wear to come out.

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-Did you wear a small, black top

-under it?

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-No, I wore a bra under it.

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-It hid everything.

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-It comes down, like that.

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-When you were in the house,

-you wore a lot of casual clothes.

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-Do you enjoy wearing hoodies

-and baseball caps?

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-Yes, when I'm at home,

-I wear caps and baggy clothes.

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-In the House, I had a few jumpers

-and baggy pyjama bottoms.

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-I wanted to be comfy

-and I wanted to be able to relax.

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-You wore this

-when you won Miss Wales.

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-Why did you choose this?

-What did you like about it?

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-I liked the baby pink colour

-and the sparkles.

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-It looked great on the stage too.

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-It has a boob tube effect.

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-I wanted something which was tight

-and fell into a flare at the bottom.

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-That's what I wanted

-and I'm glad I chose this dress.

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-You won Miss Wales in this dress,

-then you entered Miss World.

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-You wore this for Miss World.

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-You wore this for Miss World.

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-Yes, that's right.

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-Where was the competition held?

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-Where was the competition held?

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-In China.

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-I wore this for my 21st birthday

-celebrations in China.

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-Nowadays,

-I wear it to go to parties.

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-You smile

-when you look at this dress.

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-I always have good luck

-when I wear this dress.

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-You wore this

-and you made it to the finale.

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-Did you wear this for the finale?

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-Did you wear this for the finale?

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-Yes.

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-All the girls had to wear

-this dress for the finale.

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-It wasn't a lucky dress,

-so back it goes in the wardrobe.

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-Tell me about your eviction night.

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-Tell me about your eviction night.

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-I knew I was leaving that night.

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-I knew I wanted to look sexy.

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-I spent the day getting ready

-for my eviction.

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-I pulled my hair back from my face

-and applied make-up.

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-I relaxed all day

-and I put on lots of moisturiser.

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-I was ready to go.

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-I thought, "I want to leave

-the house looking my best."

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-That's exactly what I did.

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-I was the only man in Wales who

-dressed flashy clothes like that!

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-I lived the life of a superstar.

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-I heard that you were called

-Tight-Trousers Treflyn at that time.

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-Flares were all the rage, back then.

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-Tight at the top

-and very baggy at the bottom.

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-I wore jeans in the early days,

-tight, tight jeans.

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-I would play at gigs...

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-..and people called me

-Tight-Trousered Treflyn.

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-I was the only one

-who wore trousers that tight.

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-Did you make a conscious decision

-to adopt that image?

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-At the time, I didn't realize

-women looked at men in the way.

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-I knew men looked at women but

-I didn't know it worked both ways!

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-When I was performing, on stage...

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-..I didn't know

-50% of the women's brains...

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-..were focused on the man himself...

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-..and the other 50%

-was listening to the music.

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-I had that sort of appeal, I wasn't

-a folk singer or pop singer.

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-Image was important to me,

-as was the melody and my guitar.

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-I once had an opportunity

-to go to Manchester.

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-I could have hit the big time!

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-I was just an ordinary bloke

-from rural Wales.

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-I didn't want to go to the city.

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-I stopped performing for a while.

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-When Welsh music became popular...

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-I became a part of that scene

-and performed at many concerts.

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-We're talking about the 1970s here.

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-Were you a fan

-of the crazy fashions?

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-Yes, I loved the style!

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-I went to Bangor to buy clothes.

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-I'd go to a shop called Creams

-and I'd buy some amazing outfits.

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-Your image changed

-at a certain point. Why?

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-I had a cabaret act

-which I performed in Caersws.

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-There were three people there,

-sitting at a round table...

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-..sipping champagne.

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-A man with curly hair said,

-"Gordon Mills, Tom Jones's manager."

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-"You sang one of

-Gordon's songs tonight," he said.

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-The song in question

-was 'Ten Guitars'.

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-Engelbert Humperdinck

-sang that song.

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-He talked to me after he'd seen

-my performance and heard me sing.

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-He told me I needed an image.

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-He thought I was too plain.

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-Too ordinary.

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-He's the one who suggested

-I should start to wear catsuits.

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-Where did a bloke from Porthmadog

-go to find a catsuit?

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-I caught a train

-from Bangor to Euston.

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-It was called an Away Day ticket.

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-I'd reach London

-and get a taxi to Soho.

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-I found the Colin Wilde shop.

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-He had long hair

-just like Buffalo Bill!

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-He had a long beard.

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-I shook hands with him and he said,

-"Where are you from?"

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-"Porthmadog," I replied.

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-He had trouble

-understanding my accent.

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-There were photos of Cliff Richard,

-Shirley Bassey...

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-..and lots of famous people

-on the walls.

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-I'd play in front of

-a full house in Aberffraw.

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-Word had spread like wildfire.

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-"Hey! A man from Porthmadog

-wears silly clothes!

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-"He wears flashy catsuits!"

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-There were lots of people

-wherever I played.

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-This was your first suit, was it?

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-This was your first suit, was it?

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-Yes, that's right.

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-These trousers

-had a wide flare at the bottom...

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-..but I never thought flares

-would come back into fashion.

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-I had them tapered down

-and I regret doing it.

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-I altered them so that

-I could wear them in the 1980s.

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-Tell me about this gold top.

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-It's fantastic.

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-There are a pair

-of matching trousers here too.

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-I went to London to take a look at

-this one before actually buying it.

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-He described the brocade over

-the phone but I couldn't picture it.

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-The collar is much bigger

-on this white one.

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-This was my Elvis jacket.

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-When Elvis died in 1977...

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-..I bought this

-as a tribute to Elvis.

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-These are really wide trousers

-with gold stitching.

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-My name's written on the back.

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-'T Jones' - Treflyn Jones.

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-# I must now live without love

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-# My love has gone away

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-# Without you, my dear, without you

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-# I must now live without love... #

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-This is my favourite.

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-You stand out from the crowd

-when you wear something like this.

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-Yes, that was the whole point.

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-I wanted one

-really bright, flashy suit.

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-I thought pink would be nice.

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-# I must now live without love #

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-Do you have a favourite outfit?

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-These two white suits.

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-I'm fond of white clothes.

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-I still wear a lot of white.

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-When you look at various items

-of clothing and garments...

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-..it triggers thoughts about the

-role of women, traditional dress...

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-..and a woman's role

-within the household.

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-Clothes raise

-all sorts of questions.

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-Let's start

-with Eleri Jones, the artist.

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-Let's talk about your love of art.

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-Does it blend

-with your love of clothes?

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-Yes, the two aspects combine

-in many different ways.

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-I did a still life project...

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-..focusing on corners

-in my mother and father's home...

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-..and in my

-grandfather and grandmother's home.

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-I studied the way we set out

-the items we have in our houses.

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-I then looked at the way

-I set out the items in my flat.

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-From my point of view, I mainly

-focused on clothes and accessories.

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-You created a piece of work

-which involved shoes.

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-Yes, I was employed as the

-resident artist of Conwy museums...

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-..and I spent a period working at

-Sir Henry Jones Museum, Llangernyw.

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-Sir Henry Jones's father

-was a cobbler.

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-I asked the people of Llangernyw

-and local schoolchildren...

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-..to bring me

-a collection of shoes.

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-I must have been given

-around 60 pairs of shoes.

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-I then set about the task

-of sketching them.

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-Apart from bags and shoes,

-are there other themes in your work?

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-I do figurative work, studying

-people in different locations.

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-I enjoy painting people...

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-..when they're working,

-chatting or relaxing.

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-What are your favourite materials?

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-I like all sorts of things.

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-I spent some time

-in Sri Lanka and India.

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-When I was in Sri Lanka...

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-..I spent time

-with a seamstress called Siriha.

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-She worked a lot with old saris.

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-I love all sorts of silks.

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-It gave me an insight

-into everyday life in Sri Lanka.

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-I saw at first hand how people

-went about making a living there.

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-She actually sewed and dried herbs.

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-She was a bit of an entrepreneur.

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-Nowadays, we don't think of...

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-..the traditional way

-of working with a sewing machine.

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-Tell me about the picture

-you painted of you and your sister.

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-Mam bought the red gowns.

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-My sister and I were

-going to stay with our grandparents.

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-Usually,

-we'd wear different colours...

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-..but we both had red nightdresses

-on that occasion.

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-I felt like

-Little Red Riding Hood in it!

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-Eleri, it's like a gallery

-of bags and dresses.

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-It looks great.

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-I enjoy hanging things on display.

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-I've done a few paintings

-of my handbags.

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-That puppy bag looks old.

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-That puppy bag looks old.

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-Yes, that was my first purse.

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-It's quite old.

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-Let's look at these dresses

-hanging here.

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-They look as if many of them

-came from India.

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-What about the brown one on the end?

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-I bought this in Delhi, India.

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-I regret not buying 15 of them!

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-It only cost something like 75 pence

-and I've worn it a lot.

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-It was cool to wear in India.

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-Unfortunately, there are rips in it.

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-It's made of delicate silk.

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-I loved wearing this dress.

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-I got this in Sri Lanka.

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-This is the first dress

-Siriha made for me.

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-She took my measurements

-to make sure it fitted.

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-It fits me really nicely.

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-It's made of an old sari.

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-She used an old-fashioned

-sewing machine...

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-..to create this unusual stitch.

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-This dress looks as if it comes

-from an exotic, faraway land.

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-Again, this came from Sri Lanka.

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-I met an 18-year-old girl...

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-..who had set up her own design

-and dressmaking business.

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-I was lucky because I could choose.

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-Two different saris were used

-to create this dress.

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-I was allowed to choose which two

-fabrics I wanted to put together.

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-I love the way these colours clash -

-the purple and the red.

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-It also has a bright lining.

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-This is a fantastic bag, Eleri.

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-This is a fantastic bag, Eleri.

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-It's one of my most eccentric bags.

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-I rarely use it.

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-I can't put more than a tiny purse

-and a lip-gloss in it...

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-..because every time I overload it,

-it gets bigger because it stretches.

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-This is a pair

-of painting trousers.

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-I do a lot of workshops

-and I end up covered in paint.

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-Once I get a splodge of paint

-on a pair of trousers...

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-..they become painting trousers.

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-What do you keep in these?

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-What do you keep in these?

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-My best clothes, really.

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-I put them in the suitcases

-to keep them nice and clean.

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-May I see them?

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-May I see them?

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-Yes, of course.

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-It must be full. It's heavy!

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-Oh, what lovely colours!

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-That's lovely.

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-I bought that at a temple

-in Angkor Wat, Cambodia.

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-There was a woman

-selling them outside.

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-When I saw this,

-I knew I had to buy it.

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-What else do you have here?

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-This is a silk skirt from India.

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-It's reversible.

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-It's comfortable to wear

-and feels silky smooth.

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-I wear it a lot in the summer.

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-I like the idea...

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-..of keeping garments for years

-and wearing them time after time.

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-I like it when there's

-a story behind an item of clothing.

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-I'm keen on the idea of recycling

-by buying things from charity shops.

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-I like clothes

-which may have a fascinating past.

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