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-Hello and welcome to Adre

-with me, Nia Parry.

-Let's have a snoop around

-another fascinating person's house.

-Good morning.

-I'm in Pontcanna, Cardiff.

-Let's search for clues which

-will reveal who lives in this house.

-For help to follow the programme,

-use the website...

-..and download the Dal Ati app.

-This house belongs to an experienced

-award-winning actress.

-She won a BAFTA Cymru award

-in 1999...

-..for her performance

-in the film Lois.

-There's a collection of maps here...

-..among which

-is a map of the Brecon Beacons.

-This woman comes from Brecon.

-Look! This is a photograph of her

-when she was a teenager.

-Her hair has changed a lot,

-thank goodness!

-Yes - Nia Roberts lives here...

-..with her husband, Marc Evans,

-who's a film director...

-..and their daughters,

-Edith and Agnes.

-Here's Nia on 35 Diwrnod.

-Never, ever ask me...

-..to do that again.

-What did he say?

-Hiya, Nia.

-Thank you for inviting me over.

-Actually, I invited myself!

-Actually, I invited myself!

-

-It's nice to have you here.

-You live in Pontcanna.

-Where are you from originally?

-Where are you from originally?

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-I come from Brecon originally.

-I grew up in the house

-where my parents still live.

-How long have you lived in Cardiff?

-I've lived in Cardiff

-for ten years...

-..and in Pontcanna

-for six years.

-What sort of place is Pontcanna?

-It's lovely,

-especially if you have children.

-A lot of families live here and

-there's a park opposite the house.

-We know a lot of people,

-mostly through the children.

-How old are your girls?

-How old are your girls?

-

-Edith is eight and Agnes is two.

-You're still in a very busy period!

-You're still in a very busy period!

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-Yes, especially with Agnes.

-Tell me about your work.

-How did you start acting?

-My parents were active members of

-a local amateur dramatics group...

-..called the Brecon Little Theatre.

-I remember being on the stage

-when I was six or seven.

-I started doing TV work

-when I was 11.

-It was a good experience

-but theatre was my first love.

-Does theatre still give you a buzz?

-As I get older, doing theatre

-is becoming increasingly scary.

-When I was young, I just went

-on stage without thinking about it.

-But now,

-I feel quite sick before I go on.

-But once I'm on stage,

-I feel fantastic and I enjoy it.

-Tell me about the TV and film work

-you've done over the years.

-Oh, Nia! I'm getting old now.

-Oh, Nia! I'm getting old now.

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-You've done a lot.

-Solomon A Gaynor

-was your big break, wasn't it?

-It won lots of awards.

-It won lots of awards.

-

-Yes, it did.

-We went to the Oscars,

-which was amazing.

-I was young.

-Something like 24 years old.

-It opened a lot of doors for me.

-I got an agent in London

-and I went up for lots of films.

-Is it tough to be a working mother?

-The hours are long.

-You have

-short, intensive bursts of work...

-..followed by

-a period at home, perhaps.

-When I'm home,

-I'm home all the time.

-When I work, the hours are long.

-I worked on a film in London

-when Edith was two.

-I travelled backwards and forwards

-and Edith lived with my parents.

-I found it hard and I realized that

-was the final time I could do it.

-I took the decision

-to work closer to home.

-Marc, my husband, is also in the

-business and he works away a lot.

-It's too much

-for both of us to work away.

-Marc is a film director, isn't he?

-Do you ever get a chance

-to see each other?

-Occasionally!

-It's nice at the moment because he's

-home for a period of two months.

-For once,

-we can feel like a normal family.

-We have breakfast together

-and we eat supper together.

-You go to the park.

-You go to the park.

-

-Yes.

-Marc has to go where the work is.

-Tell me

-about the highlights of your career.

-What parts did you most enjoy?

-Which were challenging?

-I did a film with Marc

-called Patagonia...

-..which was a special experience.

-You kissed Matthew Rhys in the film.

-What a terrible chore!

-In front of my husband!

-In front of my husband!

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-Yes, of course.

-It wasn't as easy as you think!

-He was the director

-and you had to kiss Matthew!

-Yes, he was stood behind the camera

-while Matthew and I kissed!

-I think it was hard for Matthew.

-I remember

-when we were rehearsing.

-In one scene, which didn't make

-the final cut of the film...

-..we were going in for the kiss

-and Matthew just cringed.

-He said, "Sorry! I can't do it."

-He couldn't bring himself to kiss me

-in front of Marc.

-I've finished my coffee...

-..and I enjoyed our chat

-in your lovely kitchen.

-Can I snoop around your house now?

-Can I snoop around your house now?

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-Yes. I've had a tidy-up for you!

-Everyone does the same thing.

-This is the hallway.

-Yes, and we haven't

-decorated this yet.

-It'll be our final job.

-It'll be our final job.

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-You're still working on the house.

-Yes, and we'll do something

-which not everyone approves of here.

-There's a lot of wood here...

-..and it would have been painted

-in Victorian times.

-Not the bannister...

-..but the stairs, the architraves

-and the skirting boards.

-It would have been painted.

-A lot of people are horrified

-at the thought of painting wood...

-..but we're going to do it.

-It'll be a lot of work.

-It'll be a lot of work.

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-Yes. A lot of work.

-It's a work in progress.

-It's a work in progress.

-

-Yes.

-This really is a lovely kitchen

-and the light is wonderful.

-It was really dark,

-so we opened it all up.

-Was it two rooms?

-Was it two rooms?

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-Yes, with a tiny kitchen.

-There was a living room

-from here to here.

-There was a big window there

-and this was the external wall.

-We stored the bins in this area.

-Marc's father

-is an architect, isn't he?

-Did he have much input?

-Yes. He persuaded us

-to keep the old wall.

-We didn't renovate it at all.

-We didn't renovate it at all.

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-It's really effective.

-It's not a perfect wall

-and we didn't want it to be perfect.

-It reflects the house's character.

-I don't like

-things to be too perfect.

-It's a very social space.

-Yes.

-It's what we wanted.

-This is how we live.

-I can keep an eye on the girls

-while I cook.

-We all sit here in the morning...

-..and I sit here with Marc at night

-with a glass of wine.

-We both cook, so whoever isn't

-cooking dinner sits on a stool...

-..to chat, watch and pour the wine.

-It's a light, lovely room

-and it's a social space.

-Shall we move on?

-Shall we move on?

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-Of course.

-This is our television room.

-We light a real fire in here

-on the weekend, so it's really cosy.

-We don't use it during the week...

-..but we come here, light a fire

-and watch a film on Friday nights.

-Whose chair is that lovely one?

-Yours or Marc's?

-Yours or Marc's?

-

-It depends.

-It's quite new, so we're all

-taking turns to sit on it.

-The children love it.

-There are a lot of books in here.

-Books about cinema and photography.

-I take it it's more than a job

-for you and Marc.

-Yes.

-Marc wanted to be an artist

-when he was young.

-He studied art and he's

-a pretty good photographer too.

-A lot of these books

-are about art, film and cookery.

-We must buy

-a new cookery book once a month.

-We're terrible1

-Do you try the recipes too?

-Do you try the recipes too?

-

-Yes.

-There are loads in here

-and in the kitchen.

-What's for lunch today?

-What's for lunch today?

-

-I'm not sure.

-I haven't thought about it.

-On the first floor,

-there's a bathroom...

-..and three bedrooms,

-including the master.

-We took

-the biggest room in the house!

-It's really light and the view

-across the park is lovely.

-Yes. The view is wonderful.

-Are the windows original?

-Are the windows original?

-

-Yes.

-There are lots of pictures

-on the walls.

-Yes - things we've picked up

-over the years.

-This is a lovely room.

-There's a third floor.

-Yes. Marc's office is up there

-and it needs a bit of work!

-Am I allowed a peek?

-Am I allowed a peek?

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-Yes.

-This is the top of the house.

-This is the top of the house.

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-Wow! A lot of work is done here.

-Yes. This is Marc's office.

-Marc is a film director, isn't he?

-Film and television.

-Does he work from home a lot?

-When he's developing something,

-he does a lot of the work here.

-He doesn't write alone.

-He works on projects as a co-writer.

-He does his writing in here.

-He comes up with ideas in here.

-He's always juggling

-five or six projects at a time.

-That's the way things are

-in this world.

-You need irons in the fire

-because they won't all happen.

-Things fall through...

-..and it takes time

-to secure funding for a film.

-Join us after the break, when we'll

-have driven up the A470 to Brecon...

-..to visit Nia's original home.

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-Welcome back.

-Nia and I have travelled to Brecon,

-her home town.

-We're in Brecon and

-this is the house where you grew up.

-Yes, and my parents

-have lived here for 52 years.

-They still live here and it was

-a wonderful place to grow up.

-I can imagine you

-playing by the river.

-Yes, and not just here.

-Children had far more freedom

-in the 1970s and 1980s...

-..than they do now.

-My friends and I would ride our

-bikes to the park at the Boathouse.

-Mam, Dad and my older sisters

-kept an eye on me...

-..but me and my friends had lots

-of freedom when we rode our bikes.

-We had lots of adventures

-and I was out for hours.

-It looked very different then.

-We had a serious flood in 1979.

-We had a serious flood in 1979.

-

-Oh, no!

-After that,

-we had to build this high wall...

-..and the wall

-in front of the river.

-Before then, we had grass here

-and lots of trees.

-I have good, happy memories

-of my time here.

-Do your daughters

-enjoy coming here in the summer?

-Edith learned to ride a bike

-without stabilizers...

-..in the same place I learned.

-It's perfect for children.

-It's perfect for children.

-

-Yes. The roller skates come out.

-They love

-staying with their grandparents.

-How strong

-was the Welsh language in Brecon?

-We had a Welsh-speaking community

-and we'd all gather to meet up.

-The fact we had to do that

-demonstrated there was a need...

-..for something

-to bring Welsh-speakers together.

-They held all sorts of events

-when we were young.

-Things like barbecues,

-concerts and eisteddfodau.

-I went to

-a Welsh-medium junior school.

-My parents

-were part of a group of people...

-..who fought

-for a Welsh-medium junior school.

-My sisters didn't have

-a Welsh-medium education.

-We started with 20 pupils and

-when I left, there were 70 of us.

-The school moved from building to

-building as pupil numbers increased.

-But I went to

-an English-medium high school.

-Where did you go?

-Where did you go?

-

-Brecon High School.

-My parents were

-part of a drama society...

-..called Brecon Little Theatre.

-It was an amateur company.

-I started doing shows with them.

-I was six when I did my first show.

-I haven't been back here

-for a long time.

-Wow! It's beautiful.

-Yes, and I thought perhaps it

-wouldn't be as big as I remembered.

-The theatre has moved

-to Theatr Brycheiniog.

-All the plays are performed

-in the new building there.

-It still feels very grand.

-Imagine you as a little girl

-standing here, looking out.

-Do you remember standing

-on that stage, as a little girl?

-It must have been scary.

-No, not at that time.

-The first thing I did was play

-Tiny Tim in Scrooge when I was six.

-My whole family was in it.

-My sisters and my mam were in it

-and my dad played the piano.

-That's the piano

-Dad played back then!

-I had some happy times

-in this building.

-Being part of that theatre company

-was special.

-I had so much stage experience

-at a young age.

-This theatre played a crucial part

-in your development as an actress.

-Yes. I spent a lot of time here,

-as a child.

-Not just on stage but also

-coming here to see things...

-..and being inspired to go on stage.

-It was really important to me,

-as I grew up.

-After a lovely trip to Brecon,

-we're back in your current home.

-What three things would you

-rescue from this house, Nia?

-I've chosen three things.

-The first thing is this little box.

-The girls made it for me

-as a birthday present last year.

-'To Mam - Nia -

-from Edith and Agnes xxx'.

-Inside the box, there are

-photographs of Agnes's first year.

-Edith was six when she was born

-and she was shocked.

-She'd been an only child

-for six years...

-..and she didn't know

-what to make of this new baby.

-By the end of Agnes's first year,

-Edith was used to it all...

-..and she'd fallen in love

-with her little sister.

-She asked her father to print these

-photos of her and her sister...

-..and the whole family.

-It proved to me

-that everything's fine.

-It meant a lot to me.

-It meant a lot to me.

-

-Oh, that's nice.

-What about the second item?

-What about the second item?

-

-It's a letter.

-I wrote this letter to

-Olivia Newton-John when I was six.

-Grease, the film,

-was released when I was six.

-I went to see it

-at Brecon cinema...

-..about six times in a fortnight.

-Different relatives

-took me to see it.

-What I love about it is I spelled

-every English word in a Welsh way.

-None of the words

-are spelled correctly.

-I even call her Oliffia because

-there is no letter V in Welsh!

-'Dear Olivia Newton-John.

-'My sisters are teasing me

-that your name is Elsie Froggit.

-'Please tell me the truth, Olivia.

-I know they're telling a lie.

-'I know you don't know me at all,

-but I wanted to know you, see?

-'Tell me your address please.

-'We will come and see you

-in the summer. Goodbye.

-'Nia Roberts. Write back soon'.

-Write back is spelled rhite bac!

-My mother found this letter

-in a drawer many years later.

-This letter

-is really important to me.

-What's the third thing?

-What's the third thing?

-

-This stuffed owl.

-Wow! I wasn't expecting that.

-A dead, stuffed owl?

-You surprised me.

-There's a story behind this owl.

-Unfortunately, it was shot.

-It happened

-on the farm where my mother grew up.

-My grandfather was farming there

-and friends of his came to stay.

-They went out on a shoot

-and they came back with this owl.

-My grandfather was very sad...

-..because they'd shot this owl

-on his farm.

-He couldn't understand

-why they had to shoot an owl.

-By way of an apology and to thank

-my grandad for his hospitality...

-..they had the owl stuffed.

-Didn't that rub salt in the wound?

-They put it in a glass case

-and sent it to the farm.

-I'm very fond of owls.

-Yes, I'd noticed

-a few owls in the kitchen.

-This owl is beautiful.

-This owl is beautiful.

-

-Yes - it was beautiful.

-The owl

-takes care of us, as a family.

-I'm really fond of this owl.

-Let's change the subject completely,

-away from dead animals!

-What work

-do you have in the pipeline?

-I've just started filming

-a BBC drama called Rillington Place.

-It's about the story of a murderer

-called Reginald John Christie...

-..who murdered seven women

-and one baby...

-..in the late 1940s

-and the early 1950s.

-He was hanged in 1952 or 1953.

-Timothy Evans, the husband of

-one of the women who was killed...

-..and the father

-of the baby who was killed...

-..was wrongfully convicted

-of the murders and hanged.

-I play his aunt.

-Tim Roth and Samantha Morton

-play the main characters.

-When can we watch this drama?

-It's out in the autumn, I think.

-Thank you very much.

-It's been lovely to spend time

-with you here and in Brecon.

-It's always nice to go home.

-Thank you.

-I enjoyed

-spending time with Nia Roberts.

-Thank you for your company.

-See you next time for a snoop around

-the home of another famous face.

-Goodbye.

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-Hello! I'm Nia Parry.

-Today, I'm in our beautiful

-capital city - Cardiff.

-Where does Caerdydd, the Welsh name

-for Cardiff, come from?

-Caer means fort.

-Dydd comes from the ancient word Dyf

-which comes from Taf - Taff.

-Caerdydd means

-fort on the banks of the river Taff.

-Caerdydd then gave us

-the English word, Cardiff.

-It's interesting, isn't it?

-Dr John Davies was always

-full of interesting tales.

-He visited Cardiff Castle

-with Aled Sam.

-For help to understand the programme

-take a look at our website...

-..or download the Dal Ati app.

-In the year 75 AD,

-the Romans came to this area...

-..and they built a fort

-on the banks of River Taff.

-In 1081, the Normans came here...

-..and they built a castle where

-the Roman fort once stood.

-In 1766, John Stuart

-came to Cardiff from Scotland.

-During the ensuing 100 years,

-his family - the Bute family...

-..constructed the docks,

-built a new castle...

-..and transformed Cardiff

-into a modern city.

-How much of a part

-in Cardiff's development...

-..did this man play?

-This is the 2nd Marquess of Bute

-who died in 1848.

-I'd argue, and I wouldn't expect

-anyone to disagree with me...

-..that he was

-the most significant figure...

-..of 19th-century Welsh history.

-He established

-Cardiff's first dock...

-..making it the world's most

-important port for coal export.

-He proved the Rhondda's steam coal

-lay at exploitable depths...

-..thus beginning a significant

-chapter in Welsh history.

-He also owned Dowlais ironworks, the

-largest of its kind in the world.

-You'd struggle to find someone

-who could compete with him.

-His history is chronicled

-in a volume entitled...

-..Cardiff And The Marquesses

-Of Bute, which I wrote.

-And who is this gentleman, John?

-The 3rd Marquess of Bute,

-who was born in 1847.

-He died in 1900.

-His father, the 2nd Marquess,

-made the fortune...

-..and he set about spending it.

-When he came of age in 1868...

-..he was wealthy enough

-to start The Western Mail.

-He lived like a king.

-Actually, he was wealthier

-than the royal family at the time.

-It speaks volumes

-about this family's wealth...

-..that they could

-set aside enough money...

-..to build a summer smoking room.

-Indeed. Lower down this tower

-is a winter smoking room too.

-Bear in mind

-that this tower was erected...

-..while the 3rd Marquess of Bute

-was still single.

-It was actually a bachelor pad.

-His passion for ornateness

-knew no bounds!

-No, but Burges and Bute

-undoubtedly egged each other on.

-But the principal difference...

-..was that Burges

-was very knowledgeable...

-..about traditional

-medieval European architecture.

-Part of its appeal is that it's

-at the top of the clock tower...

-..so he could look down

-at the town...

-..established, in part, by his

-father, developing around him.

-I must emphasize that the town

-wouldn't have been founded...

-..if it weren't for Rhondda coal, so

-Cardiff people should remember that!

-Several handsome Portland stone

-buildings stand in Cathays Park.

-This area is 100 years old...

-..and it dates back to the time

-when Cardiff became a city.

-The National Museum, City Hall,

-the Crown Court...

-..and the Temple Of Peace

-also stand here.

-Alexandra Gardens, with its

-National War Memorial, is also here.

-This is a statue

-of David Lloyd George...

-..who was the prime minister

-of Britain from 1916 to 1922.

-These are Friary Gardens

-and in them stands this statue...

-..of John Patrick Crichton-Stuart,

-the 3rd Marquess of Bute.

-He's the man who built

-the modern Cardiff Castle.

-Cardiff's modern shopping centre

-is near Cathays Park.

-There are countless

-shops and eateries here.

-You can also enjoy

-concerts and shows here.

-The modern, new library

-is in the city centre.

-The old library building

-now houses The Story Museum.

-Each year, the city centre

-attracts thousands of people...

-..from Wales and beyond.

-Over 346,000 people live in Cardiff,

-around 11% of whom speak Welsh.

-According to one opinion poll...

-..Cardiff is the best European city

-to live in.

-Do local people agree?

-I love living in Cardiff.

-Everything's so close together.

-You can walk to town in no time.

-It doesn't feel like a city.

-It feels like a big village,

-where you know everyone...

-..you go out and you see everyone...

-..and you socialize with everyone.

-Yet, it is a city and there are

-lots of different things to do here.

-I think the Welshness of Cardiff

-is increasing year upon year.

-You hear Welsh accents from

-all parts of Wales here, in Cardiff.

-A lot of people

-move down here from North Wales.

-They move here from West Wales too.

-We all live together

-and we work together.

-I'd say that Cardiff is an excellent

-city in which to raise children.

-It's a city, but there's

-a real sense of community here.

-It isn't too big.

-It feels very safe.

-There are plenty of things to keep

-children of all ages occupied.

-The Millennium Stadium is seen as

-Cardiff's most iconic attraction.

-For the actor, Julian Lewis Jones,

-it's a theatre and an arena.

-When you're here,

-your personality changes.

-You might be a quiet person

-at home or at work...

-..but when you arrive here,

-you're a warrior.

-You want the boys to win. You want

-them to annihilate the other team.

-After the game, if you're sitting

-next to an Englishman or a Scot...

-..you shake hands

-and head off for a pint.

-Rugby differs from any other sport.

-The physical, competitive side

-stays on the pitch.

-After the final whistle,

-"There we go. Well done."

-There's something very special

-about rugby.

-Walking down the tunnel...

-..compares to Russell Crowe

-in the film Gladiator...

-..walking into the coliseum

-with the huge crowd urging him on.

-But there are no lions

-or tigers here!

-This is a theatre. It's the purest

-form of theatre you can find.

-I would have loved

-to have played for Wales.

-I feel I represent my country when

-I act, especially outside Wales.

-The special thing

-about the Millennium Stadium...

-..is its city centre location.

-I've visited Twickenham and Wembley.

-Both are outside the city centre.

-You pass housing estates and hot dog

-sellers outside people's homes.

-This is in the city centre.

-You can have a pint, walk around

-the corner and you're here.

-The first time I came here

-was during the 1991 World Cup...

-..when we lost to Western Samoa.

-Everyone said, "Thank goodness

-we didn't play the whole of Samoa."

-I was fortunate to be here

-for both Grand Slams.

-They were two very special days.

-There was a vibe

-in the whole stadium.

-People were in tears by the end.

-This place

-is really close to my heart.

-Julian Lewis Jones

-loves the Millennium Stadium...

-..as do thousands of others.

-Join me back in Cardiff

-after the break.

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-Welcome back.

-Not far from the city centre,

-across the Taff, stands Canton.

-Sian Rivers and her family

-live there in a Victorian house.

-Aled Sam went over there

-to have a chat with her.

-For help to follow the programme,

-go to the website...

-..or download the Dal Ati app.

-The walls of this house in

-Lower Llandaff, or Upper Canton...

-..resound with the noise of children

-and youngsters.

-This is the home of Sian Rivers,

-Sergio d'Alesio, her husband...

-..and Holly, Jack, Cara, Ricky

-and little Jude.

-I'm not fond of houses...

-..which are so minimalist,

-there's nothing to see.

-I'm not fond of houses which follow

-a certain style religiously either.

-You could do something

-mega-Victorian with this house...

-..but we chose

-not to go down that path.

-I like comfortable houses,

-which have that lived-in look.

-I like to see things like trainers,

-books and biscuits in houses!

-I like a comfortable house.

-I was really keen to remove the

-Victorian features from the house...

-..to create a blank canvas.

-Everyone went crazy with me and said

-I wasn't to touch the fireplaces!

-Rather than build my house

-around the original features...

-..I've rebelled against

-the Victorian style.

-By the time the whole family

-had moved their stuff in here...

-..including all five children...

-..the style had taken on

-a life of its own.

-We used the things

-we already had in the house.

-I went to Morocco recently.

-I'm really keen

-on the Moroccan style.

-I went to Marrakech

-and I bought colourful things...

-..like ceramics and rugs.

-I like colourful, bold objects.

-I like humour too.

-Was the house in good condition?

-The former owners had done some work

-to the house...

-..but it wasn't to my taste.

-They liked the idea

-of separate rooms...

-..but I wanted

-a more open-plan feel.

-They chose some dark colours.

-They had dark green carpets

-and a cheque pattern on the walls.

-I wasn't overly keen on those.

-The first thing we did

-was knock the rooms through.

-This house was once a home

-for orphaned children.

-It's quite nice that

-a lot of children now live here.

-I think that's nice.

-What inspired you

-to knock down the walls?

-Many people like dark,

-atmospheric Victorian houses...

-..but I like light houses,

-where you can see what you're doing.

-I know what I like.

-I like an eclectic mixture

-but I do insist on order, too.

-This house is well organized.

-There's a bit of a heart theme

-in this house.

-I don't know why I like hearts.

-I like bold shapes.

-The heart shape is bold...

-..and you can buy lots of

-decorative touches, on that theme.

-Perhaps I followed that path,

-subconsciously.

-We spend a lot of time

-around this table, as a family.

-This room draws you in, somehow.

-It's really lovely.

-Are you a keen cook?

-Are you a keen cook?

-

-Me, personally?

-I do enjoy cooking...

-..but we do tend to eat a mixture of

-convenience food and home cooking.

-I enjoy having Sunday lunches

-around this table.

-It's lovely.

-Did you always enjoy family meals...

-..or is it something you've adopted,

-as you're part of an Italian family?

-I think our family

-is like something off The Sopranos.

-Sergio is the head of the family,

-wearing a vest and dark sunglasses!

-No, we're not quite like that!

-Is that a cliche, or is it accurate?

-Is that a cliche, or is it accurate?

-

-It's completely accurate.

-My in-laws can spend

-half a day eating a meal...

-..which consists of many courses.

-We can finish our Sunday lunch

-in 20 minutes!

-I like to display

-the children's work on the walls.

-I'm fond of colour.

-The kitchen is the perfect place

-to put things on display.

-I don't care if it's a bit

-higgledy-piggledy.

-Is there any room for Sergio's taste

-in this design of yours?

-Yes. There's a hint of Tuscany

-about the paint on the walls.

-He's keen on cars and there are

-miniature motorbikes everywhere.

-Have you seen them?

-There are also lots of pictures of

-his other love - the car he built!

-There are things like that

-in the house.

-Who is the dominant force, when it

-comes to design - you or Sergio?

-Gosh - me!

-We cross from Canton to Cardiff Bay

-and I've found Sian Jones!

-Sian, you've lived in Cardiff

-since you left college.

-How has Cardiff changed

-over the years?

-I think the biggest change

-which I've noticed...

-..probably through my job

-as a Welsh tutor...

-..is people's attitude towards

-the language and Welsh learners.

-When I first came here,

-the language was quite fragile...

-..and people

-who were learning Welsh...

-..found it really difficult

-to mix with the Welsh speakers.

-There was a huge divide

-between the two groups.

-Over the years,

-people's attitudes have changed...

-..and people are more patient

-with learners.

-Quite rightly so.

-Tell me about your work.

-I'm a Welsh tutor in the Assembly

-and I help members use their Welsh.

-It's about using the language,

-not learning it.

-I enjoy working with them...

-..and encouraging them

-to use the Welsh language.

-I say, "Go on! Give it a try."

-I teach them to take a chance

-and not to fear making mistakes.

-How much opportunity is there for

-people to speak Welsh in Cardiff?

-Menter Caerdydd

-plays a huge part in it.

-Menter Caerdydd promotes and expands

-the use of Welsh in Cardiff...

-..by creating opportunities

-for people to use the language...

-..outside working hours

-and outside school.

-Welsh-medium sports events

-are organized for children.

-You can take training courses

-across Cardiff.

-Things like the annual Tafwyl helps

-show people who don't speak Welsh...

-..exactly what's happening

-in the Welsh language scene.

-Is Tafwyl Festival held in Welsh?

-Is Tafwyl Festival held in Welsh?

-

-Yes.

-There are also some bilingual events

-held as part of the festival...

-..and people are there to translate

-and explain what's happening.

-Some people whom I teach say

-they won't go to the Eisteddfod...

-..because they won't fit in and they

-won't understand what's going on.

-The Eisteddfod should adopt

-the same attitude as Tafwyl.

-People should be made available

-to explain what's happening...

-..be that in English

-or bilingually...

-..so that Welsh learners and people

-who are there with their children...

-..understand what's happening

-at an event.

-Failing that, people will

-turn their backs on the language.

-Sian Jones and Matt chatted to

-the singer, Heather Jones...

-..in the Hwb studio.

-Nice to meet you. Welcome to Hwb.

-Nice to meet you. Welcome to Hwb.

-

-Thank you. This is lovely!

-Heather Jones was born in Cardiff

-and she's learned Welsh.

-She released her first EP

-in the 1960s...

-..and she's a leading light

-in Welsh and English folk music.

-She's been a member

-of several successful groups...

-..and she's a talented composer.

-You learned Welsh as a second

-language when you were at school.

-Yes. I had no Welsh at home.

-My parents didn't speak Welsh.

-What sort of experience was

-learning Welsh as a second language?

-I liked learning Welsh.

-It felt natural to me.

-Some people in the class

-didn't cope with the Welsh language.

-For some reason, I liked it.

-Do you have some tips for me?

-Heather's top tips for Matt!

-Listen to other people.

-Yes - listen to everybody.

-Listen to the radio.

-Sometimes, they say something on the

-radio and I think, "What's that?"

-I ask friends, like Sian.

-I'm sure you learned

-by singing in Welsh too.

-Learning lyrics must help.

-When I started singing in Welsh, I

-didn't fully understand the lyrics.

-I didn't know

-what the songs were about.

-I'd ask my former husband and

-my friends to explain them to me.

-There were a few words

-I didn't understand.

-What sort of experience

-was singing in the 1960s?

-It was a long time ago!

-It was a long time ago!

-

-The 1960s were really glamorous.

-No, they weren't!

-The 1960s were certainly

-exciting times.

-Everyone sang in English, at first.

-We'd all go to folk clubs...

-..then people like Dafydd Iwan

-started to sing in Welsh.

-That's when the scene started.

-It was very exciting for me,

-as a Welsh learner.

-I had to work on my Welsh.

-You're also busy teaching children

-to speak Welsh through song.

-Yes, and I've been to

-a school in Caerphilly many times!

-I go into schools to persuade them

-to keep singing traditional songs.

-Traddodiadol - I had to learn that.

-Traddodiadol - traditional.

-Practise in front of a mirror.

-Traditional.

-Traditional.

-

-Traddodiadol. It's tough.

-S4C subtitles by Eirlys A Jones

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