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-Hello, I'm Ifan Jones Evans.

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-In this series, I'll travel Wales...

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-..meeting all kinds of people

-who love collecting things.

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-From records to autographs,

-from shoes to bottles...

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-..there are remarkable objects

-in every corner of Wales.

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-I look forward to seeing them all.

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-Welcome to Caru Casglu.

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-For help to follow the programme...

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-..use the website,

-the app and the subtitles.

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-This week on Caru Casglu,

-a penguin collection in Tregaron...

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-..shoes in Cardiff...

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-..but first, a collection

-of Nativity mangers.

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-The story of the Nativity

-is familiar to us all.

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-Here in Llandudno,

-that story has developed...

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-..into a passion

-for Nia Higginbotham.

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-Her extensive collection

-is well worth seeing.

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-Nia fell in love with her first

-manger in Machynlleth, 25 years ago.

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-Since then, Nia,

-a former social worker...

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-..has collected over 200 of them.

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-She has different examples

-from all over the world.

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-Why did you become interested

-in collecting Nativity mangers?

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-I consider the Nativity

-to be a remarkable story.

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-I love the story.

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-I can never get my head

-around the fact...

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-..that God appears as a baby.

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-For me, it's more remarkable

-that Almighty God is a baby...

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-..than Jesus on the cross

-reverting to being God.

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-I view that as complete heresy.

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-That's why I'm so interested in it.

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-As you set about

-collecting the mangers...

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-..when did you realize

-your collection had grown so much?

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-It was other people's reaction

-that made me realize, I think.

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-People saying that I had

-ever such a lot of them.

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-But I also realized,

-whenever I went on holiday...

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-..that I was looking for mangers

-to bring back as a souvenir.

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-That's become a big part of it

-over the years.

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-Every piece reminds me

-either of somewhere I've been...

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-..or of a holiday we've had.

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-Nia, we're surrounded by mangers

-and they're a feast for the eyes.

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-They're colourful and so varied.

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-There are so many different ones.

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-In this room, there are examples

-from over 26 countries.

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-This is just a part

-of your collection.

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-Yes, about a quarter of it.

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-I've got some others

-that go on the tree, smaller ones.

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-But they're all

-on a Nativity theme.

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-Tell me about the first one,

-which is over there.

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-I got this one in Machynlleth.

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-It was made by a local man.

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-They're candle snuffers,

-which I like about them.

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-Each one is a candle snuffer.

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-So, that was the first one.

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-This one here

-is a recycled Nativity scene.

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-Yes, recycled,

-and this one came from Kenya.

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-They're made out of Coca-Cola cans.

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-This one here is striking.

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-What's the story behind this one?

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-What's the story behind this one?

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-This was remarkable.

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-I saw a similar one and ordered it.

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-But it didn't arrive.

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-The following Christmas,

-my sister sent me a big parcel.

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-At the time,

-she had just moved to the USA.

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-This was in the parcel,

-and she got it from the Philippines.

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-We both thought

-that it was remarkable.

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-From the Philippines, and made of...

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-From the Philippines, and made of...

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-Is it newspaper?

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-Yes, rolled-up newspaper.

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-Tell me a little

-about that manger in the corner.

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-That's from The Gambia.

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-A friend of ours went to The Gambia

-about two years ago.

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-To my surprise,

-she brought that back.

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-It was completely unexpected.

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-She searched for one

-all over The Gambia.

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-She asked and asked

-until someone said...

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-..that their brother-in-law

-would make one.

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-That was specially made.

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-That was specially made.

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-Was it really?

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-And, of course, it portrays their

-own interpretation of the Nativity.

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-A lot of these

-represent specific countries.

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-There's one over there

-from Zimbabwe, I understand.

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-This one is from Zimbabwe,

-yes, and specially carved.

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-There's something very dignified

-about it, isn't there?

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-Some of them

-are dignified and wonderful...

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-..while others make you laugh.

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-That one there makes me laugh,

-made out of pop bottle tops.

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-That's from Uganda.

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-From a project to help people

-living in poverty.

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-It does make you smile, yes.

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-It does indeed.

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-It's unique, a work of art, almost.

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-They are art, hand-made,

-not using machines at all.

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-They're important to a lot

-of the people who make them...

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-..as a means of making money

-in very difficult situations.

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-A way of life,

-and a source of income.

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-A vital source of income.

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-A lot of them are Fairtrade.

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-Over here, there's a mix of

-traditional and abstract examples.

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-Yes, some are very abstract,

-and there are comic ones as well.

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-Like this one,

-Jesus Christ on top of a bus.

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-Out of the whole collection,

-do you have a particular favourite?

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-Well, my favourite is this one,

-which comes from Bethlehem.

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-Cutting right through the scene...

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-..is the dividing security wall.

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-The barrier separating Israel

-and the West Bank.

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-Personally, I think that we tend

-to romanticize the Nativity.

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-We make it a cosy tale.

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-But it all happened at a time...

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-..when a very cruel empire ruled.

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-That's why Mary and Joseph

-were there, actually.

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-I went to Palestine a few years ago.

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-They told me that if it was today...

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-..Mary and Joseph

-would never have got there...

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-..because the West Bank

-isn't accessible from Nazareth...

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-..and that it takes hard work

-for us to be fellow men.

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-Hear! hear!

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-One of my daughters-in-law

-comes from Liverpool.

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-Liverpudlians are fairly straight!

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-She made it perfectly clear...

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-..that she didn't want

-to inherit them!

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-She'd take one but no more.

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-And which one would that be?

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-The one from Russia..

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-..based on the idea

-of the Russian doll.

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-Five figures inside each other.

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-To have one of those

-on a Nativity theme is unusual.

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-But that's the only one

-she's interested in.

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-What pleasure do you get

-out of the collection?

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-You open the house

-to the public every Christmas...

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-..to raise money for charity.

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-Is that the greatest pleasure

-they give you?

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-I get pleasure from sharing them.

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-But just opening them

-gives me pleasure as well...

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-..and thinking about what they mean

-and about the people who made them.

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-I marvel at the materials used.

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-All kinds of different materials.

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-I also think about the countries...

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-..and the artists

-that created them all.

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-They give me pleasure

-on several levels, to be honest.

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-Tregaron is famous

-for many reasons...

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-..but it's also home to hundreds

-and hundreds of penguins...

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-..who live happily here

-with Dafydd Morgan.

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-Good morning, sir.

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-Good morning, sir.

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-Welcome to Tregaron.

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-How are you, penguin?

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-Hot enough.

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-What a surprise!

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-Dafydd, I've knocked

-on many doors in my time...

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-..but no-one in a penguin suit

-has ever answered.

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-You really are

-a sight for sore eyes.

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-It's a special suit...

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-..for a special occasion.

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-When did you

-actually start collecting?

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-Originally, it was my wife

-who collected penguins.

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-When I met Frances back in 1995...

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-..I found the way to her heart.

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-I thought, the more penguins

-I buy for Frances...

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-..the closer I get to her heart...

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-..thus improving my chances

-of proposing to her.

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-So, after collecting

-1,500 penguins...

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-..I popped the question

-and she agreed to marry me.

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-That's the family's story.

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-In our home today,

-we have all kinds of penguins.

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-Some are hiding, some are obvious...

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-..and there's even one in the toilet

-keeping an eye on you.

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-They're part of our lives.

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-Christmas and birthdays

-are always very easy for me.

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-This selection proves to me...

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-..that you don't

-just collect figurines.

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-That's the most interesting aspect

-of collecting penguins.

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-They come in many forms...

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-..in many shapes and materials.

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-They can be big or small.

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-They can be made of wood,

-ceramic or glass materials.

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-Every type of material is important

-to us as part of our collection.

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-This is from the South Pole,

-from Antarctica.

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-A friend of mine, Ian Tillotson,

-saw the bottle, the last in the pub.

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-He had to choose between

-opening it and drinking it...

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-..or bringing it back to Tregaron.

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-I haven't opened it,

-and I doubt I ever will.

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-No, don't open it.

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-Don't you open it either.

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-Have you seen penguins in the flesh?

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-Have you seen penguins in the flesh?

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-No, that's my ambition.

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-Before I'm 50,

-and I'm very nearly 50...

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-..I want to go to Patagonia,

-to South America...

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-..where you see penguins

-on beaches and in pubs.

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-Just like Tregaron then?

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-Some of them come fairly close

-to you in their habitat...

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-..and say, "Hello, mate!"

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-I think you've convinced me

-about these penguins.

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-I've got 1,500 penguins here.

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-I could sell you one

-without the wife missing it!

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-Let's have a walk round.

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-Let's have a walk round.

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-Do you want to see more?

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-Here we are.

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-Here we are.

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-You weren't lying either!

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-They are literally everywhere.

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-A place for everything,

-and everything in its place.

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-Big ones at the back, small ones

-in the front, like school photos.

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-You and your wife

-clearly love penguins.

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-But what does your daughter think?

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-But what does your daughter think?

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-Catrin likes the penguins as well.

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-She's spent hours with them,

-and they're part of her life.

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-One day, she'll inherit them all.

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-All 1,500 of them, maybe more.

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-Probably.

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-I heard that you got married

-in a penguin tie.

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-They said I had to dress

-like a penguin, but not like this.

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-Myself and the best man

-did wear penguin ties.

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-Certainly, penguins

-played a part on the day.

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-There's a fine picture behind you.

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-What's the story behind it?

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-That's a memento of our wedding day

-21 years ago.

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-Within the outlines

-of the penguins...

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-..there's a map of Tregaron,

-my home town...

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-..and a map of Llanwnnen, where

-Frances lived before we got married.

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-It matches the wall, doesn't it?!

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-The penguins

-bind two areas together.

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-Do you have a favourite item

-in this room, Dafydd?

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-Picking a favourite from the 1,500

-would be cruel to all the others.

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-But this penguin

-is one of my favourites.

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-It's very unusual,

-not a penguin's usual colouring.

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-I went skiing in Austria

-a few years ago.

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-I found this in a shop

-and I had to have it.

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-The problem was getting it home

-without damaging it.

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-But I like him

-because he has a big belly.

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-When you first come in, you don't

-notice how many penguins there are.

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-Then you look around

-and see them here and there.

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-Actually, they're everywhere!

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-Ifan, there are more upstairs.

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-Right, where are they?

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-They're fairly well-organized

-here in this cabinet.

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-They're on several levels,

-and in several colours.

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-Some them are very small.

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-Take this one. Don't swallow it.

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-Goodness me.

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-Imagine someone making

-a penguin that size.

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-Well, well, well.

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-It's from a family of five,

-all bigger than the last.

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-They needed a tiny one.

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-They needed a tiny one.

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-Where do you get hold of them?

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-We travel around Wales, England,

-Scotland and Ireland.

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-We see them...

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-The problem is, our eyes

-have a default penguin setting.

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-Any shop we walk into,

-it's penguin, penguin, penguin.

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-You have a fine collection.

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-Some are more playful,

-shall we say, at the bottom...

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-..and more modern pieces at the top.

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-They're more classical,

-standard penguins.

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-Glass, crystal and so on.

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-I have to ask, what's the most you

-or Frances have spent on a penguin?

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-We see more value in the collection

-than in individual pieces, I think.

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-But paying over 100

-has happened in the past, for one.

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-We've seen one,

-in Ceredigion, which is 300.

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-So, you can buy me that one.

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-Next Christmas.

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-Dafydd, thanks very much.

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-Dafydd, thanks very much.

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-Call again.

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-I'll check your pockets

-on the way out.

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-I'll dress like you next time.

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-There's nothing worse

-than an uncomfortable pair of shoes.

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-But it's not a problem

-for our next contributor.

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-He has a pair of shoes

-for every occasion.

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-How many pairs of shoes do you have?

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-About 120, something like that.

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-What are they mostly? Trainers?

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-Yes, trainers, or sneakers,

-as Americans call them.

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-Yes, sneakers.

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-You've chosen several pairs to show

-different aspects of your life.

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-You work as a cameraman.

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-I film a lot for Ffermio.

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-You need wellies...

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-..or boots like these Blundstones,

-which are partially waterproof.

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-You wouldn't often wear flip-flops

-in your job as a cameraman.

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-I used to work a fair bit

-in the South of France...

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-..filming surfers,

-and I wore those to work then.

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-Tell me about the bright blue pair.

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-They were an impulse buy.

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-I've never worn them.

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-I've never worn them.

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-No? Why?

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-They're a bit embarrassing.

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-Why is that?

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-Why is that?

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-They're a bit like clown shoes.

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-I've started to collect shoes now.

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-Some are limited edition trainers.

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-I won't wear those.

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-I'll keep them as collectors' items.

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-What do your family

-and friends think?

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-Some of them think

-that collecting shoes is a bit daft.

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-People like Jay-Z, Beckham...

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-..and Jerry Seinfeld

-collect trainers.

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-I didn't set out to do it,

-it has just developed.

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-When you go out

-and see a pair of shoes...

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-..do you know immediately

-that you have to buy them?

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-Or do you mull it over?

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-I know when I'm going to buy.

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-I have bought five pairs in one day.

-but they were on sale.

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-You do try to find a bargain.

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-Oh, yes, but I buy unnecessarily

-as well, mind you.

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-Do you ever get rid of any?

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-Do you ever get rid of any?

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-That's how it's developed.

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-I don't get rid of many.

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-I don't get rid of many.

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-So, you don't throw any away.

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-Almost none. It's difficult,

-but I will have to soon.

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-Or you'll need another house

-to keep them.

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-There are more in here.

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-The main collection,

-trainers or sneakers, are upstairs.

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-Let's see them.

0:20:120:20:13

-After you.

0:20:130:20:14

-I like these, Adidas Monaco.

0:20:160:20:19

-Do you know what the sole is?

0:20:190:20:21

-It's a Goodyear tyre.

0:20:210:20:23

-It's a Goodyear tyre.

-

-A proper car tyre?

0:20:230:20:24

-Goodness me.

0:20:250:20:26

-Goodness me.

-

-They're driving shoes.

0:20:260:20:28

-For rallying or F1, any driving.

0:20:280:20:32

-For rallying or F1, any driving.

-

-These are really cool.

0:20:320:20:34

-I have worn them,

-but I won't much more.

0:20:340:20:36

-To prevent wear.

0:20:370:20:38

-To prevent wear.

-

-It's like an aqua tyre, that tread.

0:20:380:20:42

-What about those bright ones?

0:20:420:20:44

-What about those bright ones?

-

-I got these orange ones in Germany.

0:20:440:20:46

-Adidas, of course,

-is a German company.

0:20:470:20:50

-I got them in Hanover last year.

0:20:520:20:54

-I went to see a friend

-who goes fishing with us.

0:20:550:20:58

-He's in his eighties now,

-but he's been coming since 1976.

0:20:580:21:02

-The Adidas founder's brother

-established Puma.

0:21:020:21:06

-They fell out.

0:21:060:21:08

-One left and set up his own company.

0:21:080:21:12

-Really? I didn't know that.

0:21:120:21:14

-Then there are Reebok pumps.

0:21:140:21:16

-Then there are Reebok pumps.

-

-Now, they are colourful.

0:21:160:21:18

-I can't wear these.

-They're a bit too pink.

0:21:190:21:23

-Will these be in the collection?

0:21:230:21:25

-Will these be in the collection?

-

-Yes.

0:21:250:21:26

-You can't buy these now.

0:21:270:21:29

-You don't see many pumps nowadays.

0:21:290:21:31

-These are a re-release

-of a 1990s model, maybe even 1980s.

0:21:320:21:37

-Never been worn. Will you wear them?

0:21:370:21:40

-Never been worn. Will you wear them?

-

-No, I'll keep these.

0:21:400:21:41

-Have you heard of ASICS?

0:21:420:21:44

-Yes.

0:21:450:21:46

-They invented the trainer.

0:21:460:21:49

-Did they really?

0:21:490:21:50

-A Japanese company,

-not from America.

0:21:500:21:54

-They're from Japan.

0:21:540:21:55

-Tiger was the first line they made.

0:21:560:21:59

-Yes, they invented the trainer

-as you know it today.

0:21:590:22:03

-So, these are ASICS Tiger?

0:22:030:22:05

-Are they special or unique?

0:22:050:22:08

-They're one

-of the expensive ASICS lines.

0:22:080:22:11

-I'm not sure

-how you pronounce ASICS.

0:22:120:22:15

-They make a lot

-of good running shoes.

0:22:150:22:18

-I like these a lot. These are nice.

0:22:180:22:21

-How do you keep them

-looking so well?

0:22:210:22:24

-I put a bit of talc in them,

-to keep them fresh.

0:22:250:22:28

-Talcum powder?

0:22:280:22:29

-Talcum powder?

-

-Yes.

0:22:290:22:30

-I have one important question

-that I must ask you.

0:22:300:22:33

-If you had to rescue one pair...

0:22:340:22:38

-If you had to get rid of the others,

-and keep just one pair...

0:22:380:22:42

-..which pair would you keep?

0:22:420:22:43

-..which pair would you keep?

-

-These, definitely.

0:22:430:22:45

-Yes, the Agassi shoes.

0:22:450:22:47

-Mr Andre Agassi.

0:22:470:22:49

-Why?

0:22:500:22:51

-I had the same pair in the 1990s.

0:22:510:22:54

-I'm quite a nostalgic person.

0:22:550:22:57

-And because

-they've been re-released...

0:22:580:23:01

-Will they go up in value?

0:23:010:23:02

-Will they go up in value?

-

-They certainly will.

0:23:020:23:04

-How much did you pay for them,

-if I could be so bold?

0:23:040:23:07

-I think they were about 120.

0:23:080:23:10

-So, you'd rescue those,

-the Agassi pair.

0:23:110:23:14

-Rhidian, thanks

-for showing me your collection.

0:23:190:23:22

-It's worth seeing, fair play.

0:23:220:23:23

-It's worth seeing, fair play.

-

-Any time.

0:23:230:23:24

-But I'm not sure about those.

0:23:250:23:26

-But I'm not sure about those.

-

-No?

0:23:260:23:27

-Nor me.

0:23:280:23:29

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0:23:340:23:34

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0:23:390:23:39

-Subtitles

-

-Subtitles

0:23:390:23:41

-Hello.

0:23:530:23:54

-My name is Debora

-and I come from Italy.

0:23:550:23:57

-I come from Tuscany originally...

0:23:580:24:00

-..but I moved to Rome

-when I was four years old.

0:24:000:24:04

-I work here...

0:24:040:24:06

-..in a small village

-called Ostia Antica.

0:24:060:24:10

-It's a 16th century village.

0:24:100:24:14

-I work in a bank

-from Monday to Friday.

0:24:150:24:18

-I come here every lunchtime

-to read my Welsh books and novels.

0:24:190:24:24

-I'm married to Max.

0:24:260:24:27

-He's sitting in the shade

-at the moment.

0:24:270:24:30

-I decided to learn Welsh in 2012...

0:24:400:24:46

-..after I'd spent a short holiday

-in Wales with a friend.

0:24:460:24:50

-I listened to people

-speaking Welsh on the street...

0:24:500:24:56

-..and I asked some of them how

-I should pronounce some place names.

0:24:560:25:02

-I was interested to learn more...

0:25:020:25:06

-..about the Welsh language

-and Welsh culture.

0:25:060:25:10

-We're the Llewelyn Williams family

-from Bryn Caled, Llanuwchllyn.

0:25:150:25:20

-This is Gareth, my husband.

0:25:210:25:22

-This is Gareth, my husband.

-

-Good morning.

0:25:220:25:23

-We have three children.

0:25:240:25:26

-Aron, who's 15 years old.

0:25:260:25:28

-In my spare time,

-I spend time with our horses.

0:25:290:25:32

-We keep some here...

0:25:320:25:34

-..and some at my grandmother's house

-at Moelgarnedd, Bala.

0:25:340:25:38

-We enter them in shows across the

-country, including the Royal Welsh.

0:25:380:25:43

-We'll take two there this year.

0:25:430:25:46

-Rhys is 13 years old.

0:25:460:25:49

-I like cars, hens and singing.

0:25:500:25:52

-I started off with six hens

-two years ago...

0:25:530:25:57

-..but I recently

-added another 26 to my brood.

0:25:570:26:01

-I now have a total of 31 hens.

0:26:010:26:03

-I hope to create a little business

-out of selling eggs...

0:26:040:26:09

-..just like my grandfather.

0:26:090:26:11

-That's how he started his business.

0:26:120:26:14

-He sold eggs.

0:26:150:26:16

-Nel is our youngest and she's 11.

0:26:160:26:20

-I like horse riding and singing.

0:26:210:26:24

-I'm in a band called Y Storm.

0:26:240:26:27

-It will be nice to have Debora

-come and see us play...

0:26:280:26:31

-..because she plays the bass

-in her own band.

0:26:320:26:35

-We have holiday cottages here.

0:26:360:26:40

-We converted the cowsheds

-into holiday cottages.

0:26:400:26:44

-We also own caravan parks

-and a holiday park in Bala.

0:26:440:26:48

-I hope what Debora

-gets out of this experience...

0:26:480:26:52

-..is to see that it is possible...

0:26:520:26:54

-..to live your life

-completely in Welsh...

0:26:550:26:58

-..for the short time

-that she's here.

0:26:580:27:00

-She'll also see

-that Welsh is alive...

0:27:010:27:04

-..and is the natural language

-of this area.

0:27:040:27:07

-Good morning.

0:27:080:27:10

-Good morning.

0:27:100:27:12

-Welcome to Bryn Caled.

0:27:130:27:14

-Meet the family.

0:27:140:27:16

-I'm Gareth and this is Aron.

0:27:160:27:19

-That's Rhys and Nel.

0:27:200:27:22

-Hello.

0:27:220:27:23

-How was your journey?

0:27:240:27:25

-How was your journey?

-

-Good, thanks.

0:27:250:27:26

-How long have you been in Wales?

0:27:270:27:29

-How long have you been in Wales?

-

-For a week.

0:27:290:27:31

-I'm sitting

-my Higher Welsh exam in Bangor.

0:27:310:27:35

-I had an oral exam yesterday

-and today, here I am!

0:27:350:27:39

-It's a very exciting holiday for me.

0:27:410:27:43

-Fantastic! Your Welsh is excellent.

0:27:440:27:48

-I hope you have a good time with us.

0:27:490:27:50

-I hope you have a good time with us.

-

-And welcome.

0:27:500:27:51

-The first job is to help Sioned

-with one of the holiday cottages.

0:27:540:27:58

-They're getting it ready

-for the next visitors.

0:27:580:28:01

-There are so many things in Wales

-that I want to see.

0:28:030:28:06

-I discover something new

-every time I come here.

0:28:070:28:10

-It's incredible.

0:28:110:28:13

-People always say that

-the people who live in this area...

0:28:140:28:18

-..speak Welsh really quickly.

0:28:190:28:22

-I keep forgetting

-that you're learning Welsh.

0:28:220:28:26

-If I speak too quickly,

-just tell me.

0:28:260:28:29

-Yes, I'll tell you.

0:28:290:28:31

-At the moment, everything's fine.

0:28:310:28:33

-At the moment, everything's fine.

-

-Everything's fine? OK.

0:28:330:28:35

-Look at that view!

0:28:380:28:40

-What are those mountains called?

0:28:400:28:42

-What are those mountains called?

-

-Yes, it's a lovely view.

0:28:420:28:44

-In front of us, in that cloud,

-is the Aran.

0:28:450:28:49

-There's a nice walk which takes you

-from the village of Llanuwchllyn...

0:28:490:28:54

-..up to the mountains.

0:28:550:28:57

-Do you see that wind turbine?

0:28:570:28:59

-Do you see that wind turbine?

-

-Yes.

0:28:590:29:01

-You walk up that first hill,

-which is called Garth Bach.

0:29:010:29:05

-You walk to the bigger mountain,

-which is called Garth Mawr.

0:29:070:29:11

-That path takes you

-to the peak of the Aran.

0:29:110:29:16

-Have you walked

-to the peak of Aran many times?

0:29:170:29:20

-I've only walked

-right up to the summit once.

0:29:210:29:25

-We often go for a walk

-over Garth Bach and Garth Mawr.

0:29:250:29:30

-Ellie, this is Debs.

0:29:310:29:32

-Hello.

0:29:320:29:34

-Debs comes from Rome.

0:29:340:29:36

-Ellie is learning Welsh.

0:29:380:29:40

-How long have you been learning?

0:29:400:29:42

-How long have you been learning?

-

-Since August.

0:29:420:29:44

-Less than a year?

0:29:450:29:46

-Less than a year?

-

-Yes.

0:29:460:29:47

-Ellie's Welsh is excellent.

0:29:480:29:51

-She also texts in Welsh,

-and posts on Facebook in Welsh.

0:29:510:29:56

-I sing in Welsh too!

0:29:570:29:58

-I sing in Welsh too!

-

-Yes - you're an excellent singer.

0:29:580:30:01

-How do you make time

-to do everything?

0:30:020:30:05

-You take care of your children,

-you sing, you work...

0:30:050:30:09

-..and you learn Welsh.

0:30:100:30:12

-I'm very busy.

0:30:120:30:15

-Yes, and she's still happy!

0:30:160:30:19

-Yes, and she's still happy!

-

-Yes - I can see she's smiling.

0:30:190:30:21

-Congratulations.

0:30:210:30:22

-Debs and I have cleaned the windows.

0:30:230:30:27

-Thank you.

0:30:280:30:29

-We're going to the house

-to bake some bara brith.

0:30:310:30:35

-Oh, very nice.

0:30:350:30:36

-Oh, very nice.

-

-We'll see you later. Thank you.

0:30:360:30:38

-Ta-ta!

0:30:390:30:40

-He helps his mother.

-He's such a good boy.

0:30:420:30:45

-Ta-ta!

0:30:460:30:48

-Sioned leaves a loaf of bara brith

-in the cottages for her guests.

0:30:500:30:55

-It looks unappetizing,

-but it's bara brith mixture.

0:30:560:31:00

-Once it's cooked, I just wrap it

-in paper and it can last for a week.

0:31:020:31:07

-But not in this house!

-It gets eaten within half an hour.

0:31:090:31:12

-Do you put it in the fridge?

0:31:130:31:15

-Do you put it in the fridge?

-

-No. You can just leave it out.

0:31:150:31:17

-It's covered in paper.

0:31:180:31:19

-You don't fill it?

0:31:200:31:21

-You don't fill it?

-

-No.

0:31:210:31:23

-It grows in the oven.

0:31:230:31:24

-It grows in the oven.

-

-Yes - it expands.

0:31:240:31:26

-They'll take

-25 to 30 minutes to cook...

0:31:320:31:35

-..so let's pop to Bala

-with the laundry.

0:31:350:31:38

-You're in Wales now!

-That's the wrong side.

0:31:450:31:48

-Unless you want to drive.

0:31:490:31:51

-The work is never-ending

-and they head to Bala...

0:31:510:31:54

-..to take dirty bed linen

-to the launderette.

0:31:550:31:58

-Jan does the washing.

0:31:580:31:59

-Oh! It's Uncle Dafydd.

0:32:000:32:02

-Oh! It's Uncle Dafydd.

-

-Good morning.

0:32:020:32:03

-This is my uncle, Debora.

0:32:040:32:05

-Good morning. Buongiorno.

0:32:060:32:08

-Come va?

0:32:080:32:09

-Come va?

-

-Bene grazie.

0:32:090:32:11

-Whereabouts in Italy are you from?

0:32:110:32:13

-Whereabouts in Italy are you from?

-

-I come from Rome.

0:32:130:32:15

-Ah! Roma.

0:32:160:32:17

-Vaticano. Michelangelo.

0:32:170:32:19

-Cappella Sistina.

0:32:190:32:21

-You know it well.

0:32:220:32:23

-You know it well.

-

-Not at all.

0:32:230:32:24

-Welcome. Molto bene.

0:32:250:32:28

-Let's take the laundry

-in through that door...

0:32:280:32:32

-..and head right to the back.

0:32:320:32:34

-Hello, Jan.

0:32:390:32:41

-Hiya, Jan. Are you OK?

0:32:410:32:42

-Hiya, Jan. Are you OK?

-

-Yes, thanks.

0:32:420:32:43

-This is Debs.

0:32:440:32:45

-Hello, Debs.

0:32:450:32:47

-Debs comes from Rome.

0:32:470:32:49

-Wow! How long have you been here?

0:32:500:32:52

-Wow! How long have you been here?

-

-Since last week.

0:32:520:32:56

-I'll go back home on Sunday.

0:32:560:32:58

-I'll go back home on Sunday.

-

-Have you enjoyed yourself?

0:32:580:33:00

-Yes, and I'd love to stay longer

-but I've got to go back to work.

0:33:000:33:05

-It's hard, isn't it?

0:33:050:33:07

-Your Welsh is miraculous.

0:33:070:33:09

-Your Welsh is miraculous.

-

-Isn't she incredible?

0:33:090:33:11

-Do you think us Welsh

-are similar to you Italians?

0:33:110:33:15

-We're really loud.

0:33:160:33:18

-We act and we sing.

0:33:200:33:22

-We act and we sing.

-

-Yes, and we talk with our hands.

0:33:220:33:24

-You sing a lot and so do we.

0:33:260:33:28

-I think we're very similar.

0:33:280:33:31

-The biggest difference

-is our weather.

0:33:310:33:35

-We'd better go.

0:33:350:33:37

-See you later.

0:33:380:33:39

-Alright.

0:33:400:33:41

-It was nice to meet you.

0:33:410:33:43

-It was nice to meet you.

-

-You too. Ta-ta!

0:33:430:33:45

-Back at Bryn Caled, Debora has

-a chat with Aron about the horses.

0:33:500:33:55

-When did you start breeding horses?

0:33:580:34:00

-My grandfather

-bred horses for many years.

0:34:010:34:04

-This is my fourth year

-of showing horses.

0:34:040:34:07

-I was 12

-when I started to show horses.

0:34:070:34:10

-During that time,

-I've had some good years...

0:34:110:34:14

-..and some years

-that could have been better.

0:34:150:34:18

-All in all, it's been excellent.

0:34:180:34:21

-Is this breed of horses

-famous beyond Wales?

0:34:220:34:28

-Yes, it's well-known.

0:34:300:34:32

-The breed

-has even reached Australia.

0:34:320:34:35

-The Welsh Pony And Cob Society

-has members across the world...

0:34:350:34:40

-..from America

-to the rest of Europe...

0:34:410:34:45

-..and to countries

-as far away as Australia.

0:34:450:34:49

-Do you think something like this can

-help people learn more about Wales?

0:34:510:34:56

-Can it help people learn more

-about Welsh culture and agriculture?

0:34:570:35:02

-Yes, I think so.

0:35:040:35:06

-It's a Welsh horse...

0:35:060:35:08

-..and people know it

-as being a breed from Wales.

0:35:080:35:11

-That's especially true

-at the Royal Welsh...

0:35:120:35:15

-..which is one of the biggest

-horse shows in Europe...

0:35:150:35:20

-..if not the world.

0:35:210:35:22

-People flock there

-from around the globe.

0:35:220:35:25

-Is it a hobby or a future career?

0:35:250:35:28

-It's hard to do it professionally.

0:35:300:35:33

-There's very little money in it

-if you do it the way we do it.

0:35:330:35:37

-We don't make much money from it,

-so I need another career...

0:35:370:35:42

-..so I can invest in the horses.

0:35:420:35:45

-I think I'll keep it as a hobby...

0:35:460:35:49

-..and work elsewhere

-to put money into it.

0:35:490:35:55

-Congratulations.

0:35:550:35:56

-You're already professional.

0:35:570:35:59

-You're already professional.

-

-Thank you very much.

0:35:590:36:01

-I like animals, of course.

0:36:050:36:07

-I was thrilled

-to be with the horses.

0:36:070:36:09

-I really enjoyed

-seeing them running on the land...

0:36:100:36:15

-..and learning more about them.

0:36:150:36:19

-In reality, I live in a big city.

0:36:190:36:23

-I'm not used to seeing horses

-very often.

0:36:240:36:28

-When Debora walked in

-this morning...

0:36:290:36:32

-..my first impression of her...

0:36:320:36:35

-..was that she was

-really enthusiastic...

0:36:360:36:39

-..and very keen

-to learn the language.

0:36:400:36:43

-We weren't sure

-how much Welsh she could speak.

0:36:440:36:47

-We had no idea

-what level she was at.

0:36:470:36:49

-It's incredible.

0:36:500:36:51

-You wouldn't think

-she was a learner.

0:36:530:36:56

-How long has she been learning?

-Only three or four years?

0:36:560:37:00

-Added to that, she lives in Italy.

0:37:000:37:02

-It's unbelievable.

0:37:030:37:04

-When you learn a language,

-you do it by reading books.

0:37:050:37:09

-You learn a language

-in a totally academic way.

0:37:090:37:13

-After a certain amount of time,

-you need a real-life situation...

0:37:140:37:19

-..where you can

-practise the language...

0:37:190:37:22

-..with people who speak that

-language in their everyday lives.

0:37:230:37:28

-That's especially important to me...

0:37:290:37:32

-..because I rarely get a chance

-to practise the language at home.

0:37:320:37:38

-It's incredibly good for me

-to have an experience like this.

0:37:390:37:43

-Tomorrow, Debora is going

-to the band rehearsal with Nel.

0:37:450:37:49

-They rehearse at Drws Cae'r Gwenyn,

-which is just a few fields away.

0:37:500:37:54

-She'll also

-see the hens with Rhys...

0:37:560:37:58

-..and we'll have a barbecue

-at the end of the afternoon.

0:37:590:38:03

-Yes, so we're praying

-for sunny weather.

0:38:030:38:06

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0:38:060:38:07

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-# Red fox, you shoot and shoot

0:38:180:38:22

-# Red fox, you miss and miss

0:38:220:38:25

-# Red fox, you shoot and shoot

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-# Red fox, you're hotter and hotter

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-# Red fox, you shoot and shoot

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-# Red fox, you miss and miss

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-# Red fox, you shoot and shoot

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-# Red fox,

-you're hotter and hotter #

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-Wow, you're fantastic.

-Your band's fantastic.

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-Thank you.

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-When did you start playing together?

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-When did you start playing together?

-

-When we were in Year 4.

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-Some people went to secondary school

-and they had to leave.

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-This has been the line-up

-since last year.

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-Do you perform often?

-Do you play lots of gigs?

0:39:140:39:18

-Yes, we've played a lot of gigs.

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-Our biggest gig was in Cannock,

-in front of 12,000 people.

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-Wow!

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-It would be a dream come true for me

-to play in front of a huge crowd.

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-Have you recorded a CD?

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-Yes, we recorded a CD last year.

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-The three songs on it

-are Coch Gwyn A Gwyrdd...

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-..Cadno Coch and Tegid Foel.

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-What sort of music do you play?

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-Rock?

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-Rock?

-

-Yes - rock.

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-Can I play a bit of guitar with you?

0:39:540:39:57

-Yes. Why not?

0:39:580:39:59

-Yes. Why not?

-

-Thank you. It'll be great.

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-# Red fox, you shoot and shoot

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-# Red fox, you miss and miss

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-# Red fox, you shoot and shoot

0:40:090:40:12

-# Red fox, you're hotter and hotter

0:40:120:40:15

-# Red fox, you shoot and shoot

0:40:150:40:18

-# Red fox, you miss and miss

0:40:190:40:22

-# Red fox, you shoot and shoot

0:40:220:40:25

-# Red fox, you're hotter and hotter

0:40:260:40:29

-# Shoot and shoot

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-# Red fox,

-you're hotter and hotter #

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-Hiya! Are you alright?

0:40:510:40:52

-You're busy. What's happening?

0:40:530:40:55

-You're busy. What's happening?

-

-I look busier than I really am!

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-As it's lovely and sunny,

-let's have a barbecue.

0:40:590:41:05

-A barbecue is a good idea. Great.

0:41:050:41:07

-You've got a car, so will you

-go to Joe's shop in Bala...

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-..to collect the meat?

0:41:120:41:14

-I've ordered burgers and sausages.

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-Perfect.

0:41:170:41:18

-Perfect.

-

-OK. See you later.

0:41:180:41:19

-Hello.

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-Hello.

-

-Can I help you?

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-I'm Italian and I'm learning Welsh.

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-I'm Italian and I'm learning Welsh.

-

-Excellent. Welcome.

0:41:330:41:35

-I'm staying with the Llewelyn

-Williams family at Bryn Caled.

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-We're having a barbecue tonight...

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-..so I think I need to buy

-something to eat.

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-We need 20 burgers and 30 sausages.

0:41:480:41:52

-We need 20 burgers and 30 sausages.

-

-No problem.

0:41:520:41:53

-Thin sausages, please.

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-Thin? Fine.

0:41:570:41:59

-Do you have any halloumi?

0:42:000:42:02

-Yes, I have some halloumi.

0:42:020:42:03

-Yes, I have some halloumi.

-

-Thank you.

0:42:030:42:04

-One halloumi.

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-One halloumi.

-

-Perfect. How much do I owe you?

0:42:100:42:12

-I'll work it out for you.

0:42:120:42:14

-I'll work it out for you.

-

-Thank you.

0:42:140:42:15

-Thank you very much.

0:42:160:42:17

-Thank you very much.

-

-No problem. Thank you.

0:42:170:42:19

-Ta-ra!

0:42:190:42:21

-Hello, Rhys.

0:42:260:42:27

-Would you like to see the hens?

0:42:280:42:30

-Would you like to see the hens?

-

-Yes, of course.

0:42:300:42:32

-Come with me.

0:42:320:42:33

-The hens live here.

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-My new red hens live here.

0:42:420:42:45

-There are six of those

-and they're laying very well.

0:42:450:42:49

-The red ones are called Warrens.

0:42:490:42:52

-I've got 26 new Warrens but they're

-too young to lay eggs at the moment.

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-How old must a hen be

-before it will lay eggs?

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-Somewhere around 24 weeks.

0:43:050:43:09

-These are older than that,

-but it also depends on the weather.

0:43:090:43:14

-Really?

0:43:150:43:16

-When it's sunny, they don't like

-to lay eggs because it's too hot.

0:43:160:43:21

-They don't like to lay eggs

-when it's cold either.

0:43:220:43:26

-Would you like to feed them?

0:43:260:43:27

-Would you like to feed them?

-

-Yes. I hope I can do it properly.

0:43:270:43:31

-Do you have a favourite hen?

0:43:320:43:34

-No, not really.

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-I do like my six old hens.

0:43:380:43:42

-If you only have six hens...

0:43:430:43:46

-..you get far more attached to them.

0:43:460:43:50

-When you have 26 hens,

-you don't get so attached to them.

0:43:500:43:54

-I gave my first six hens names.

0:43:550:43:57

-Blodwen is one of my favourites.

0:44:010:44:03

-She's white,

-she's big and she's really cuddly.

0:44:040:44:08

-She lays well too.

0:44:080:44:10

-Let's see

-if there are any eggs here.

0:44:110:44:13

-Yes.

0:44:140:44:15

-My neighbour wants some eggs.

0:44:180:44:20

-Would you like to come with me

-to sell them?

0:44:200:44:23

-Yes, of course.

0:44:230:44:24

-Yes, of course.

-

-Great.

0:44:240:44:25

-What I enjoyed most...

0:44:260:44:30

-..was living

-with a traditional Welsh family.

0:44:310:44:35

-The language

-was absolutely everywhere.

0:44:350:44:39

-It was a great experience...

0:44:420:44:44

-..to live in the way

-that Welsh speakers live.

0:44:460:44:49

-No other culture

-influences life here.

0:44:490:44:54

-It's been great fun.

0:44:550:44:56

-It's been great fun.

-

-And a pleasure to have her here.

0:44:560:44:58

-Yes, because she got on

-with us, the children...

0:44:580:45:02

-..the dogs and the cat.

0:45:030:45:05

-With everyone.

0:45:050:45:06

-With everyone.

-

-With the horses too.

0:45:060:45:08

-It's been a pleasure.

0:45:080:45:09

-We're glad

-to have had this opportunity.

0:45:100:45:13

-It was a good experience

-to have her around.

0:45:130:45:17

-It proves that the Welsh language

-spreads further than we think.

0:45:170:45:22

-The children are amazing.

0:45:240:45:26

-They're very experienced

-in everything they do.

0:45:260:45:30

-I found out more about horses,

-thanks to Aron.

0:45:300:45:34

-He's very passionate about horses.

0:45:350:45:38

-I'm sure he'll turn professional.

0:45:390:45:42

-With Rhys, it amazes me

-how a young child...

0:45:440:45:49

-..can speak so well about hens.

0:45:510:45:56

-He knows everything about them

-and he works hard.

0:45:570:46:01

-It was a really great experience.

0:46:020:46:05

-You'd never imagine that an Italian

-with no Welsh connections...

0:46:050:46:10

-..would learn the language.

0:46:100:46:12

-It's been wonderful

-to meet someone who's so clever...

0:46:120:46:17

-..and so enthusiastic

-about the Welsh language.

0:46:170:46:21

-Nel sings with the band.

0:46:210:46:24

-She's full of energy...

0:46:240:46:26

-..and I'm sure

-she'll become a rock star.

0:46:260:46:31

-She's already

-had professional experiences.

0:46:340:46:37

-I think she'll keep going.

0:46:380:46:41

-I had two very cool days

-with Debora.

0:46:420:46:45

-I can't believe

-what a fantastic guitarist she is.

0:46:450:46:48

-I hope we can go over to Rome

-to learn a bit of Italian...

0:46:510:46:55

-..like she's learnt Welsh.

0:46:560:46:58

-SHE PLAYS HEN WLAD FY NHADAU

0:46:580:47:01

-I'd be really delighted

-to see the family in Rome...

0:47:020:47:07

-..and show them around the city.

0:47:070:47:10

-She's the first Italian

-I've got to know.

0:47:210:47:24

-Debora came over here and she's able

-to speak and communicate in Welsh.

0:47:240:47:29

-It's just brilliant.

0:47:290:47:31

-I hope she goes back to Italy...

0:47:310:47:33

-..with a warm feeling

-about the time she spent here.

0:47:330:47:37

-Maybe, in the future...

0:47:370:47:39

-..we'll have the honour of

-welcoming her back to Penllyn again.

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