Episode 23 Debatable

Hello and welcome to Debatable.

Today we're playing a special extra-length edition, because

silence may be golden but, as we all know, celebrity chat is priceless.

Today, one player must answer a series of tricky questions to

try and bag our jackpot of ?3,000.

But they're not on their own,

as they will also have a panel of Britain's brightest

celebrities debating their way to the answer.

Will they help or will they hinder?

Well, that is debatable, so let's meet them.

On today's show we have actress Liz Carr...

we have entrepreneur Peter Jones...

and comedian Susan Calman.

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It is a panel that has it all.

Liz, we know you from Silent witness,

where your forensic character works stuff out.

I'm assuming you will be bringing none of that to today's show.

Thank you, absolutely none at all, no. No science knowledge.

I hope there's no science questions and nothing about forensics.

I love the way you're talking down your part here before we even start.

Then it can only improve. That's what I'm saying. Yeah.

It can. On the other side, we have Susan Calman,

one of the smartest people I know on this earth. Wow!

Are you going to...?

Well, I mean, you should see the people I hang out with.

So what are you going to bring to today, Susan?

What I have is a breadth of knowledge,

but not a detailed knowledge of anything.

So... And an awful lot of enthusiasm, as always.

So even if I get it wrong, I'll do it with a smile.

OK, now, you also studied law, so we have Liz on one side,

Peter Jones, we have Susan on the other.

Are you going to be chairing this debate today?

This is quite impressive, isn't it? I've never sat next to two lawyers either side of me

unless it's been in the dock, but...

I think it's going to be fun. I'm really...

Obviously I know Susan very well.

In fact, I don't call her Susan, I call her Soogle,

which is short for sort of my S-version of Google,

because she is literally, as you say, incredibly knowledgeable.

So forget Google, it's all about Soogle.

You can tell by the look on her face she is already nicking that.

She is nicking that for future reference. Yep.

OK, it is a perfectly formed and rounded panel full of intelligence.

It can only go downhill from here.

Let's see who is playing today's game with them.

It is Asghar Iqbal from Cardiff.

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Right, Asghar, how are you doing? Yeah, good, thank you.

Tell us about yourself, apart from the fact that you have the most

magnificent gun show I have seen on the show.

My name is Asghar. I'm 21, a student paramedic. Originally from Cardiff.

I'm studying in the University of Hertfordshire. What hobbies do have?

Well, being Welsh, I'm a big rugby fan.

Definitely have to support Wales.

Also do a bit of charity work with things like St John Ambulance.

I'm a Scout leader as well, so quite a variety of things going on.

OK, we wish you all the best.

Let's get this Debatable show on the road as we play Round 1.

OK, As, this round is multiple choice.

Each question has four possible answers.

Only one of them is correct.

Helping you find your way to the answer is our panel.

Will you go with what they say or will you go your own way?

It's entirely up to you.

Three questions in this round.

Each correct answer is worth ?200, which will go into your prize pot

which you will be playing for at the end of the show in the Final Debate.

Happy to play? Yep.

OK, let's get cracking - here comes your first question.

Um...something's pointing me towards bowls

so maybe that's... My initial thought would be bowls.

All right, your initial thought is bowls.

Let's see what our panel says. Your debate starts now.

Right, what do we think?

Well, lots of sports are suggested for the Olympics.

As future ones. In the future.

Yeah, so darts... I know Barry Hearn, I think he's the president or

the chairman of the Darts Association, the Pro Darts.

He's issued a statement to say he doesn't believe they'll get in

until 2024.

So that hasn't been in. That hasn't been in.

Snooker, I think, is another one - they tried to get into Tokyo...

They did try and they didn't get in.

So they're now 2024. So it's cricket or bowls.

I think... I'm leaning towards bowls because I think it's

a sport that's been played for a long...

We're talking about one that used to be one that has been taken out of the Olympics.

It's a historic thing, yeah.

I would veer more towards cricket, because...

Really? Yeah, because there's a lot more history to cricket.

The reason I don't think cricket,

cricket is only played by certain countries.

Whereas bowls is played all over the world. OK, you're going bowls.

No, no, you're the chairman, so I'm going bowls. I'm going bowls.

I think it probably is bowls. Yeah. Bowls. But you said cricket.

No, but you know what, this is about a collaboration,

and I think... You can overrule us. Two-to-one, I'm not doing that.

There is no chance, not against lawyers. I'm going with you.

Is this how the show is going to go?

We've decided, I think. The panel have decided.

The sport that was a former Olympic sport is bowls.

And that look on Peter Jones's face means he's not convinced

himself, but he has gone along with the panel.

Susan believes it's bowls.

So what are you thinking?

Um, I think "former Olympic event" is the key bit there.

I think initially it might have been thrown in, but maybe the viewings

weren't so great for bowls, being quite a slow-paced game.

Some good views, a lot of confliction there,

but I think I'm going to lock in bowls as my former Olympic event.

So As is going with our panel.

For ?200, is bowls the correct answer?

Oh, no!

Cricket! Peter, you should have gone with what you thought!

That's your fault! Don't listen to us.

Absolutely your fault, Peter.

We are not responsible for what happened there.

So, Susan Calman,

who completely persuaded the panel to go with bowls... Sorry.

..over cricket, says the panel are not responsible for that answer.

They're all adults. And to be fair, I did doubt myself. Yep.

Cricket made its only Olympic appearance at

the 1900 Paris Olympics.

There was only one match and it was between Great Britain and France.

Well! Great Britain won. It was 50-50.

Funny, that.

Unfortunately, As, you were wrong to go with the panel,

but there's still loads of cash up there.

Let's see if we can get it out. Here's your next question.

I probably don't think it's boomerang.

Boomerang has quite an Aussie twang to it anyway.

Same with, I think, didgeridoo.

I think kangaroo, they say kanga for short, maybe...

So my initial thought would be koala.

Your first thought would be koala. Let's see if our panel

can bring their Neighbours expertise to this.

Your debate starts now.

Well... Well... Liz? Soogle?

Well, fortunately, I was a huge fan of Neighbours...

Do you know this? Yes. She does.

Good, because I have no idea. And the Minogues. Both of them.

And in Smash Hits in approximately 1989...

they revealed,

I'm pretty sure, that Kylie means boomerang in Aboriginal language.

Because it was a big thing at the time - what does Kylie mean?

Do you have any recollection of this, Liz? I sort of do,

because I was a big Neighbours fan as well. Yes. I'm pretty sure...

that it's boomerang. And you're pretty sure as well, Liz.

And if you think about it now,

her career, she keeps coming back... Exactly. ..doesn't she?

She has lived the life of a boomerang.

She has lived the life of her name.

I've got a pair of hot pants like hers. That I look forward to...

I never wear them in public, it's fine.

OK, before we get that visual...

I think the panel have decided. Yep.

The panel have decided that Kylie is the Aboriginal name for boomerang.

So our panel have not gone into any Australian history whatsoever

or linguistics of the Aboriginal people,

they have gone to Smash Hits in 1989

and a profile on Kylie Minogue.

I mean, I can't really argue with that, the certainty for that.

It's not quite my expertise, so...

I think I'm going to stick with the panel.

Again, hopefully, it'll come out right with boomerang.

OK. For ?200, is Kylie the Aboriginal name for boomerang?

It is! APPLAUSE

It is.

Well done, As. Very well done.

The word came into Australian English from Noongar,

an Aboriginal language.

All right, As, we're up and running. ?200 in the prize pot.

Let's see if we can get it up to 400.

Last question of the round.

Some very big names, obviously, with some great inventions.

I'm drawn to Isaac Newton bringing in the whole gravity...

idea...with the fallen apple.

I think that would be quite an old-age idea.

So my initial thought would be to bring out Isaac Newton.

Isaac Newton.

Here we go, panel. Let's see if you can sort this out.

Your debate starts now.

So, erm... What did they all do?

So, Baird, television. Yes.

Bell, telephone. Telephone. Newton? Gravity. Watt? Electricity.

The leccy.

What ones can we definitely rule out that were not 1700s?

Sir Alexander Graham Bell...

So he would be the nearest to us now, so he'd be 1800s,

so it won't be him. Not him. And Logie Baird. Logie Baird similarly.

Yeah. Yeah. So it's not the top two, so it's between Newton and Watt.

And I think Newton would be in the 1600s. I think he's earlier.

Much before it. Yeah. Because we've had gravity for quite a long time.

We have!

Otherwise we'd all have fallen off!

It's got to be James Watt, hasn't it? It makes the most sense.

And we're definitely sure about Isaac Newton?

Yeah, I'm pretty sure. The pictures I've seen of him, he looks older.

Was he ever playing bowls in the pictures? He wasn't playing bowls!

OK. I think it makes sense to go with him, doesn't it?

James Watt? Yeah. Yeah.

We agreed? Yeah.

The panel have decided that the inventor that was born in

the 1700s is James Watt.

OK, As, has that brought any clarity to the issue?

Liz making a very good point that gravity has been around for

a very long time! It has, yeah.

I think they've sort of confirmed my idea that Isaac Newton was old,

but they've just confirmed he might be even older than I thought.

So... I seem like I'm agreeing with the panel every single time,

but James Watt would be my final choice.

OK, you're going for James Watt.

For ?200, was James Watt born in the 1,700?

He was! APPLAUSE

He was!

Well played, well worked out there, As.

It was James Watt who improved steam-engine technology.

He was born in 1736. There he is.

Well done, As, that's another ?200 in your prize pot,

bringing your total to ?400 at the end of the round!

Very well done.

So, out of our panel, out of Liz, out of Peter and out of Susan,

who is standing out for you?

Two of the panellists are very vocal,

and I think Liz has come in with some really key points

that have been sort of sometimes overshadowed,

so at the moment Liz is standing out to me.

Liz is the standout member of...

It feels like some form of beauty parade where we're sitting here

being judged, like...

It's quite... The competition! It's quite stressful, isn't it?

And now Peter Jones will lead the swimsuit...

Let's see how they cope with pictures. It's time for Round 2.

As Round 2 is our picture round,

all you have to do is place three pictures in the correct order.

There are three questions in this round,

just ?300 up for grabs for each correct answer.

So best of luck. Here we go.

Some big personalities. Um...

Starting with the fewest, I'd probably say the Dalai Lama,

followed by Simon Cowell and then Donald Trump with the most.

OK. Liz is nodding. Let's see what our panel can make of this.

Your debate starts now.

Liz, do you know? Are you on Twitter, Liz? What is Twitter?

Right.

Yes! OK, OK. I wasn't quite expecting that. Yes.

No, not actually ON Twitter.

So, as a comparator, Liz, let's see how many followers we both have.

How many have you got, Peter?

I think just over a million. SUSAN LAUGHS

So, good... Um...

And the thing is that Trump was popular and is now even bigger,

because he's running for president...

Yeah. ..so my first instinct would be...

..that he would have the most.

I don't think Simon Cowell...

I think he's got a lot, but I don't think he's got more than Trump.

I think he's had his day.

Do you think? I think Cowell's had his day so I think

you've got him right in the middle. I think As has got him right.

Cowell in the middle. Yeah. Right.

So I think Cowell in the middle.

I wonder if it's swapped.

I just think... Dalai Lama? I know we all think and Trump thinks

everybody knows him and everybody's thinking about him... Yeah.

..but I think, over the years, the Dalai Lama might have picked up

a few more fans. Well, when you think... Yeah.

I know that the Pope has a lot of followers and I think the same.

I think actually Cowell and Trump would love to have

as many followers as the Dalai Lama and the Pope.

So who has the fewest? If we're saying the Dalai Lama has the most.

You think, Liz...? Next one should be, you think...?

I think Cowell's in the middle. Cowell.

And you think Trump? I think Cowell has the least.

God, this is a tough one.

But it's longevity. It's 50/50.

So what's your gut, Mr Jones?

My gut tells me to leave it as it is. It's up to you.

Go for it. Mm-hm. You happy? Yep.

Well, the panel has decided that the fewest Twitter followers

is Simon Cowell, then Donald Trump, and Dalai Lama has the most.

OK, As, that's what our panel think.

Yeah, lots of conflicting views.

I, personally, want to change that around slightly.

I think with Donald Trump and what he had with

the presidential candidacy, and America's quite a big place,

I think...I still think he would have the most.

Simon Cowell, again, yeah, he's had his day,

he was probably popular when X Factor was still in its heyday.

So I think I'm going to stick with Dalai Lama as the fewest,

followed by Simon Cowell and then Donald Trump with the most.

OK, you're going against the panel here, As.

You believe the Dalai Lama has the fewest,

then Simon Cowell, and the most Twitter followers is

Donald Trump.

For ?300, is that the correct order?

It's the wrong order, As. Let's have a look

at the correct order.

Panel also wrong.

Donald Trump, then Simon Cowell, then the Dalai Lama.

Liz was actually right.

Donald Trump, nine million followers,

Simon Cowell, 12.6, the Dalai Lama, 12.8 million followers.

So, As, you got that wrong.

Our panel also got it wrong. It means that you remain on ?400.

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OK, here comes your second picture question.

Wow.

So, first of all, starting with the earliest,

probably Christ the Redeemer I'd say is probably the oldest,

followed by the Golden Gate Bridge and then Sydney Opera House.

OK. We have a well-travelled panel who will sort this out,

I'm sure, very quickly.

Panel, your debate starts now.

OK.

Well, certainly Sydney Opera House, that's... It's quite recent.

That's quite recent.

But the Golden Gate Bridge was back in the '30s or '40s, wasn't it?

See, to me, the Golden Gate Bridge was

an architectural wonder of the world in the early, kind of, 1900s

because it was one of the biggest suspension bridges... Yep.

..at that time. To me, my initial instinct is the Golden Gate Bridge

is the earliest of them.

Let's look at it in terms of... Does anyone know when

the Christ the Redeemer statue

was built at all, never mind completed?

No, but it kind of looks earlier.

I don't know whether that's a good reason. Yes.

But there's something about it. But in terms of, again...

That is not one piece of stone. That's, again,

a feat of engineering... Yeah. ..to get that, because it's very high up,

isn't it, over Rio? Over Rio, yeah.

So to get that there seems to me to be more modern

than the Golden Gate Bridge.

I think it's really old. My instinct tells me that's really old.

What do you think, Liz?

I think they're in the right order.

I think Golden Gate Bridge, Christ the Redeemer... Sydney Opera House.

..the most recent. But, you know what, I'm...

I agree with Liz, actually.

I feel like I've been here before.

Now, last time you agreed with us, we got it wrong.

There is no chance, I'm not disagreeing with you.

I'm going with you. So...

The panel have decided the order

of which these landmarks were completed,

starting with the earliest, is

the Golden Gate Bridge,

Christ the Redeemer

and Sydney Opera House.

So, As, Peter not convinced but he's gone with the panel.

The Golden Gate Bridge, Christ the Redeemer,

Sydney Opera House.

I'm sort of agreeing with Peter here.

I do think Christ the Redeemer is older.

I'm just trying to think of the materials they're made out of.

I'm just thinking between iron and whatever the Golden Bridge

is made of.

I think it's sort of in the middle.

So, As, the order you'd like to go with is...?

So I think Christ the Redeemer is the earliest,

followed by the Golden Gate Bridge, and then finishing off

with Sydney Opera House.

So you're sticking with your initial thought,

you're going against the panel but you are actually going

with Peter Jones on this.

For ?300, is that the correct answer?

It is the correct order!

Very well done.

Well played, As. You were right to stick with your first thought.

Let's have a look at them.

Christ the Redeemer statue, 1931, the Golden Gate Bridge, 1937...

Aw! ..Sydney Opera House, 1973.

Well played, though. You went your own way on that, As,

you were right to do that.

300 quid into the prize pot, you're now up to ?700.

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OK, As, well played.

Let's have a look at your third question in this round.

Here it comes.

Comic-book fan, As?

Not the biggest, not the biggest. But I'm basing it on

the films that have come out.

I would probably put Captain America as the earliest,

followed by Batman and then Spider-Man as the latest.

So nothing to do with the comic books,

just based on the look of the films?

Yeah, and the story behind them and where they were based.

OK. Panel, over to you. Your debate starts now.

I can't wait to get into this.

I absolutely love comics

but I have absolutely no idea of the answer to this question.

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Do you like comic books?

I used to like Twinkle and Bunty. Right, good.

But I have no idea.

OK. We're down to one.

Well, I have a fully functioning Batman costume and...

Just for the house.

Are you wearing that under your clothes at the moment?

Of course I'm not, of course I'm not!

I'm dressed normally. It's for when I get post delivered.

Nothing cheers a postman up more than a little lady

answering the door in a Batman costume.

What I know is this...

Spider-Man is the latest, in my view.

He was a later edition to the comic-book canon. OK.

Without question.

It's between Batman and Captain America.

Now, Captain America was a World War II propaganda tool...

..and that was later on in World War II, when America joined

the Second World War.

So I know that Captain America was the early 1940s.

Question is - was Batman before that? And my gut says yes,

but what do you all think?

I have no idea, but I'm definitely with you.

Everything you've said sounds spot-on.

You were quite convincing, to be honest. Yeah.

And you are Soogle. Yes. Now, every time you say that, Peter,

it goes horribly wrong for me.

Every time you point out that I sometimes know things,

it always goes horribly wrong.

It did make me giggle when you said about your costume,

cos, although I don't do these kind of comics and

I haven't for years... Yes? ..I do have a Spider-Man costume.

Do you? And it's got the muscles.

It's kind of... Yeah.

When do you wear that?

Pretty much high days and holidays. Yes.

I like to keep that, it's like Sunday, hat day,

and Saturday, wear your superhero costume. Yes, of course.

So if I buy a Captain America costume,

do you think we can all get together some time?

Listen... I think that's a programme.

That's got a caravan trip for BBC Two written all over it.

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There's a scientific survey - this is true -

that if you stand for five minutes in a superhero pose

at the start of the day, you feel more confident throughout the day.

Exactly, that's it. You feel so much better if you stand

in the morning.

On that note, I think the panel have agreed.

Should we put them in order? Should we put them in order?

So we're saying... You're saying Batman.

Batman first. Spider-Man.

Captain America, and then Spider-Man last.

So the panel have decided that it's the order of which

they first appeared was Batman, Captain America and Spider-Man.

So Susan says it is just a hunch.

However, she convinced us with World War II facts.

The panel has gone along with Susan on this one.

I'm fairly happy with Spider-Man being the youngest of

the superheroes.

I'm still trying to debate whether Captain America

being based around the war but actually being put into

a comic might have been later as opposed to Batman.

Um...

I think I'm going to agree with the panel.

I'm going to put Batman as my earliest,

following by Captain America and then Spider-Man

as my latest.

So you're going for Batman, Captain America and Spider-Man?

The superpowers of Susan Calman has changed your mind.

Let's all hold the pose, As.

Is that the correct order?

Please let it be right. Please let it be right.

Please let it be right!

Yes! It is the correct order, well done!

Well played.

And good knowledge, Susan.

Let's have a look at them here.

Batman was 1939, Captain America was in the middle of

the Second World War, 1941, and quite a distance then,

Spider-Man, 1962, came a fair bit later.

As, very well done, I have to say. You've been playing the game

really well. At the end of round two, your prize pot

is up to ?1,000. Whoo!

So how's our panel doing so far, As?

I think they've all been equally strong.

Initially I thought Susan was swaying everyone

and getting things wrong but she's coming up

and pulled it out the bag with that last one.

So, Liz, Peter or Susan, if you had to bring one

into your final debate, who would it be?

At this point in time, it would probably be Peter, at this point.

OK. It's moving.

So started with Liz, going with Peter.

There's still one round left. Can we sway you over

to the Calman before the end of the show?

There's still ?1,500 up for grabs as we play Round 3.

OK, As, in this round, you will face questions that contain

three statements about a person, a place or a thing

but only one of those statements is correct.

You must decide which one. Three questions in this round

because it is our final round.

?500 for each correct answer. So lots of cash up there.

Let's see if we can get it all.

Here we go.

I mean, I wouldn't put it past him having a misspelt name.

But...

I think maybe...

One of his children was born sort of late '90s.

I would probably say that he is shorter than Ryan Giggs.

OK, that's your first thought. You think he's shorter than Ryan Giggs.

Let's go for the long and the short of this.

Panel, your debate starts now.

Can I just check who he is? Yes, he is a popular soccer player... Oh.

..from earlier in the day.

You must know him.

I do know him. Yep. And...yeah. Although I was on with

Michael McIntyre and he says this..."send to all".

Do you know this "text to all" game? Yeah.

And Beckham was on there and his reply was, "Who's this?"

So whilst I might know him, I'm not sure he knows me. Right.

But it might be because I know the answer to this question.

Oh, do you? What is it? Oh.

It is definitely a misspelt tattoo of his wife's name. Right.

And I think it is... I don't know what language the name

was written in, because it didn't spell Victoria.

But I'm pretty sure it's got... It's spelled Victoria

with an H or an M in it. One of the letters, anyway, was wrong.

Right, right. So I'm pretty confident about the fact

that it's a misspelt tattoo of his wife's name.

You'd think if you had a tattoo of your wife's name,

I mean, I would pretty much check that.

Also, with all that money, you'd think you'd get it redone. Yes.

Cos there's programmes on TV. You can just go to

somewhere in Brighton. Well, yes, you can.

That's a really good point. Why doesn't he get that done?

Do you have a tattoo, Peter?

I don't know why he doesn't get that done.

No, I don't.

I didn't... You don't have a tattoo?

No, I don't. Do you have a tattoo? No, I don't.

Do you have a tattoo?

So I think it's definitely... LAUGHTER

No, I don't, I don't.

What do we think? Do we agree?

I think you seem very certain of it. I think if you know this one...

I'm pretty sure that I think... We're in agreement.

Yeah, yeah, absolutely. You know the score.

You go for it. The panel are in agreement that

David Beckham has a misspelt tattoo of his wife's name.

So, As, apart from the fact that I've fallen slightly in love

with Liz that you watch Tattoo Fixers as well -

I thought I was the only one -

Peter Jones believes that

David Beckham has misspelt his wife's name in a tattoo.

Yeah, I think I'm pretty happy with that myself.

I think I did hear it on one of these late-night chat shows

where they did take the mick out of him for having a misspelt name,

especially in a different language, but, yeah, I'm going to stay with

"he has a misspelt tattoo of his wife".

So, you initially went with "shorter than Ryan Giggs".

Our panel have now persuaded you, indeed Peter Jones has

persuaded everyone, that he has a misspelt tattoo of his wife's name.

If this is correct, it's ?500 into the prize pot.

The correct answer is...

Yes! He does.

He does.

He's on his way to Brighton

to get that sorted out, Liz.

He has a misspelt tattoo of his wife's name. There it is.

His Hindi-script forearm tattoo, which is translated into English,

has a H in Victoria. Good knowledge there, Peter Jones.

Brooklyn was born in 1999.

David Beckham is 183 centimetres and Ryan Giggs is 180 centimetres.

Very well done, As, very well played, Peter.

We've added ?500 to the prize pot. You're now up to ?1,500.

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OK, here comes the second question of Round 3.

University of Cambridge, I've got a couple of friends that go there

but I'm not quite up about the history.

Before the Battle of Hastings - 1066, that's quite a while ago.

I would put C initially as being true.

So you feel that Christopher Wren...

I feel that Christopher Wren might have designed

part of one of their schools.

OK, panel, over to you. Your debate starts now.

OK...

I've no idea about the boat races. That's 50-50 for me. Do you...

I mean, I don't follow the boat races. Me and sport, isn't it?

Yeah. Another sport element.

No, although I'm sort of thinking it could be that one. Yeah.

It could be. Could be.

Founded... Battle of Hastings, 1066?

I mean, I get it's possible.

I'm sure it wasn't founded before 1066. I'd get rid of the middle one.

So it's either Christopher Wren

or the boat races. I...

What's your feeling? Liz? What's your gut?

That's all I can go on - my gut reaction would be the boat race.

Yeah? Hmm.

My gut instinct was Christopher Wren,

but Liz seems to have been quite the fortune-teller.

So you think it's won fewer university boat races than Oxford?

You think that? Hmm.

I'm going to go with whatever you think because I really don't know.

It's those two, one of those two, isn't it? Let's go with that one.

Peter? No, we're going to go with Liz, because I don't know.

I don't know either, so go for it. OK. Yeah.

The panel has decided that the University of Cambridge

has won fewer boat races than Oxford.

So, As, not that much knowledge brought in there,

although they do all believe that the University of Cambridge

wasn't founded before the Battle of Hastings.

You initially thought Christopher Wren, they're going boat race.

Anything in there to make you change your mind?

I do remember, I think Oxford won the last...

I do remember seeing it on the telly

that they won the last boat race.

Maybe I'm again getting confused. I'm happy that it wasn't founded

before the Battle of Hastings,

but then Christopher Wren, I mean,

I'm not quite up-to-date with that, but...

I'm going to go with the panel.

I do think the university has won fewer than Oxford.

OK, we're locking it in. You're not entirely sure

but we're going with the panel, we're all in agreement.

For ?500, has Cambridge won fewer university boat races than Oxford?

The correct answer is...

Oh! Oh, no. Part of the university was designed by Christopher Wren.

Susan had that in her gut.

I'm sorry about that, As.

Two chapels in Cambridge were designed by Wren,

those at Pembroke and Emmanuel colleges.

Oxford has won 79 races, Cambridge has won 82.

Cambridge is considered to have been founded around 1209,

and the Battle of Hastings, which everybody seemed to know, 1066.

OK, As, not to worry, you didn't get that question right

but it means you still have ?1,500 in your prize pot.

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Let's see if you can get it up to two grand. Here we go, for ?500.

What's your first thoughts, As?

I might be confusing these princesses but

I think Princess Anne is quite big on horses and things like dressage,

so initially I would think that she might have been in...a Olympic,

so I would think that she has won an Olympic medal.

So the possibility that she's been in the Olympics,

so she may have won a medal. Panel, your debate starts now.

OK, so she was in an Olympics... Yeah.

..because, fact fans, she's the only competitor in an Olympics

never to have been sex-tested in the Olympics she went to,

because she was the Queen's daughter

and therefore they accepted she was...

It was around the time of the Russian athletes and doping scandals

and she wasn't sex-tested.

I don't think she won, though.

Her daughter won... Zara. Zara, I'm sure, won in the 2012 Olympics.

It's tough, because the top one seems almost too easy,

because I would just assume that her children do have...

I've never heard...

Well, maybe they don't use them, but do you know?

I'm good friends with Mike Tindall, I play a lot of golf with him.

Right. I've had a few evenings out, we've had a lot of fun,

Zara's been around, but I am pretty sure that Princess Anne

has not won an Olympic medal. I think you're right. Yeah.

I'm also pretty sure that her husband,

and I can't remember his surname, Timothy somebody,

and I remember he is Sir Timothy,

and I think five or six years ago he was knighted.

This is her second husband. This is her second husband. Yes.

So I think her husband was knighted by the Queen.

Sir Timothy...

What's his surname? Dalton.

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Spall. Sir Timothy something, isn't it? I can't remember.

I'll go with you, Peter. Are we OK on that? Shall we decide?

Peter, I'm with you all the way.

The panel has decided

that Princess Anne's husband was knighted by the Queen.

So, our panel have worked this one through.

They think that it was Zara Phillips, not Princess Anne,

that won an Olympic medal.

They think that Princess Anne competed in the Olympics

and we believe that her husband,

who is either Timothy Spall or Timothy Dalton,

was knighted by the Queen.

Yes, some good points by the panel.

Definitely I was confusing Princess Anne with her daughter

during the Olympics, so I'm happy to rule B out.

I do think that whenever they do mention Zara's name,

if she was a duchess or something,

they would say Zara, Duchess of so-and-so.

Not heard that anywhere at all, so process of elimination,

I'm going to go with Peter,

and assuming he knows him better than I do, C is the answer.

So you're going for C.

Our panel have managed to convince you to change your mind.

You're going for "her husband was knighted by the Queen".

For ?500, to get the prize pot up to ?2,000,

which statement is true about Princess Anne?

Yes! It was C.

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Her husband was knighted by the Queen. Well done.

Princess married Timothy Laurence... Oh! ..in 1992.

He was knighted by the Queen in 2011. Well done there, Peter.

Her two children, Peter and Zara, don't have royal titles.

She didn't win any medals at the Olympics but she was the first

member of the British royal family to compete in the Olympic Games.

Good knowledge, panel.

Well played, As, and so at the end of Round 3

your prize pot is up to ?2,000.

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And that's the amount you're going to be playing for

in today's final debate, As.

There's just one question that stands between you and that cash

and that is today's final debate question.

There are six possible answers and we need three correct answers

to win that two grand.

As before, though, you're not going to play alone.

As this is the final debate,

we're going to allow you to access just one celebrity from the panel.

You and your celebrity will have 45 seconds to debate the question,

so based on performance today, who's it going to be?

Liz, Peter or Susan to play in the final debate?

I think based on performance and some of the answers they've given,

I will choose Peter to be my companion. Yeah!

OK, Peter, all right?

Step this way, sir, as we play today's final debate.

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So, Peter, As has chosen you for the final debate.

I'm assuming you're ready, raring to go. Bit nervous, actually!

I'm trying to be calm, but no, I'm not calm at all. I'm quite nervous.

I'm a bit sweaty and palmy.

Yeah, but I'm twice as sweaty as you, I think.

So I wouldn't be good at catching. Come on, we can do this.

This is the type of confidence

that we need going into this final round, As(!) OK, yeah.

OK, look, because it is the final debate, As,

we're going to give you a choice of two categories,

so have a look at this, tell us which one you fancy.

I mean, I would be more drawn toward Celebrities but what about yourself?

Yeah, let's go with Celebrities, because Sport, apart from tennis

and a bit of golf, that's the end of my sport so we could do Celebrities.

I think we're happy with Celebrities.

He was quite good on the David Beckham tattoo. Absolutely.

So we're going for... Celebrities.

OK, let's lock it in. Celebrities.

For ?2,000, As, 45 seconds on the clock,

here is your final debate question.

So, As, Peter, for the final time today, your 45 seconds starts now.

What do you think? I believe Rod Stewart's had four wives.

I saw him at the weekend, actually, at a concert,

so I'm happy he's got four wives.

Paul McCartney, there was the big divorce, and I was only aware of...

So only two, probably. Yeah. Elizabeth Taylor...

Elizabeth Taylor's famous, she married Burton twice.

Yeah. Two under her belt.

No, I think Elizabeth Taylor has been married six or seven times.

OK, so she's up there, definitely.

And Joan Collins, she's been married four or five times.

So Rod Stewart, you say Rod Stewart's four...

Rod Stewart is on four.

Marilyn Monroe... Did she ever get married? Maybe. Maybe once.

So can we rule her out?

I think we can rule out Marilyn Monroe and Paul McCartney.

I'd be going for Elizabeth Taylor, Frank Sinatra and Joan Collins. OK.

Time is up.

As, I need three answers, please.

Yeah... I had no idea about Elizabeth Taylor but that's...

that's a good shout. We'll put Elizabeth Taylor as one,

Frank Sinatra and then Joan Collins.

Elizabeth Taylor, Frank Sinatra, Joan Collins.

OK, As, if they are the three correct answers, it's two grand.

If one of them is wrong, I'm afraid you do leave with nothing.

Best of luck. Here we go.

First up, Elizabeth Taylor.

Is Elizabeth Taylor a correct answer?

APPLAUSE

She's a correct answer. She was married eight times

and you were right, Peter, twice to Richard Burton.

Let's have a look at Joan Collins.

Has she been married the most?

APPLAUSE

It's a correct answer.

Joan Collins has been married five times,

so it's all down to Frank Sinatra.

You said that you saw Rod Stewart at the weekend.

You think he was married four times. Peter suggested Frank Sinatra.

You went with Frank Sinatra in the end.

If Frank Sinatra is the right answer, it's ?2,000.

Fingers and toes crossed here, As.

?2,000, is Frank Sinatra one of the three celebrities

who've been married the most?

It's a correct answer!

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Well done! Thank you so much. Very well played.

Frank Sinatra, married four times.

Rod Stewart, who you saw at the weekend, married three times.

Marilyn Monroe and Paul McCartney also married three times.

Really well played, guys.

Give it up one more time for As.

CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

And good work. Good work, Peter.

Congratulations, As. You won ?2,000.

APPLAUSE

Very nice work. That is it for Debatable.

There's just enough time for me to thank our fantastic panel,

to Liz Carr, to Peter Jones and Susan Calman.

APPLAUSE

I do hope you've enjoyed watching. We will see you next time

for more heated debate. For now, it's goodbye from me.