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Hello, and welcome to Debatable, the quiz show where talk is cheap,

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but celebrity chat can win a contestant money.

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This week, we'll be playing five extra-long editions of the show,

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because celebrity chat, as we all know, is priceless.

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One player must answer a series of tricky questions to try to win

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our jackpot of ?3,000, but they're not on their own,

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as they will also have a panel of celebrity brainboxes

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debating their way to the answer.

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Will they help or will they hinder? Well, that's debatable.

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So, let's meet them.

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On today's show, we have...

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That's our panel. Let's meet today's contestant.

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It is Hilary Leighter from Middlesex.

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How are you doing? Hello. Welcome to the show.

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Thank you very much. Tell us a bit about yourself.

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I'm Hilary Leighter, I'm 59,

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I live in Ruislip in Middlesex with my lovely husband, Graydon,

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and our beautiful cat, Bertie,

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who's one year old, and I am humanist celebrant.

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Yes, she is. I am.

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This is a magnificent job that you do.

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Yes, it is. Tell us what you celebrate.

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I create, with people, personal, nonreligious wedding ceremonies,

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baby naming ceremonies and funeral ceremonies.

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Apart from today, on this show,

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what's the most unusual ceremony that you've performed?

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Well, last year, I performed a most marvellous wedding

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in Shakespeare's Globe Theatre.

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Unfortunately, they didn't allow us to do it on the stage,

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which I would have liked to have done,

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but we were in the basement, which is a beautiful, huge space

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with a large tree.

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I felt as if I was doing Midsummer Night's Dream

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and we were up on a plinth,

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and it was romantic and it was just beautiful.

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Midsummer Night's Dream is one of your favourite plays, Konnie.

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It is indeed. And we could do that, couldn't we? I played... Chris?

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What have I played in Midsummer Night's Dream?

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I love the fact that Nigel says, "I played... What did I play?"

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I did, I played Puck. I played Puck. Did you?

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I played Puck! In fact, I was the best Puck at the park that year.

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You've played Puck as well? And I would like to say... No!

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I would like to say that the Wembley Observer wrote,

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"Hilary Leighter delighted as the sprightly Puck."

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Isn't that funny? Three of us have played Puck! Extraordinary.

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It's a good role. It is a good role.

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And out of the five of us here,

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I think that's probably the best review that any of us have ever had!

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Right, Hilary, let's get this Debatable show on the road,

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as we play round one.

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This round is multiple choice, Hilary.

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Each question has four possible answers, but only one is correct.

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Helping you find the correct answer is our panel.

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Now, will you go with what they say or will you go your own way?

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It is entirely up to you. There's three questions in this round.

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We have ?200 up for grabs with each correct answer.

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Ready to play? Yes. OK, best of luck. Here we go.

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My first thought is

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that I'm pretty sure I would find a post office,

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though that probably, of course,

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means that's the one thing you wouldn't find.

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And for any of the others,

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I'd be interested to hear what the panel have said.

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So, for the first time, panel, can we shed some light on this?

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Your debate starts now.

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Have either of you been to Buckingham Palace? Many times.

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Many times? Many times. Are you a constant guest? I go there...

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I was there only a week ago. I was at a garden party.

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I was at that one! Were you there? The Prince's Trust?

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Yeah. Wasn't it fantastic? Great! I wasn't there!

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Anyway... I couldn't make it! Back to the quiz.

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The thing is this - have you been around the back?

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I have, and I know that there's a swimming pool there.

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There's a swimming pool.

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As you're at the back of the palace,

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it's on the left-hand side, and it's a sort of separate room.

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I would have agreed with you.

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I would have thought there was a post office.

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Why would there be a post office?

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Because she is the Queen and the Queen doesn't go out to a postbox!

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But she has people to go and post letters for her.

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No, no, she loves posting her letters. OK.

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I sort of agree with that. They must have a lot of mail.

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There must be a cinema in there, because, let's be honest,

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they like to watch a lot of movies.

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I think there's definitely a cinema.

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I can't picture the Queen bowling, somehow.

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The only reason I think a bowling alley...

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If the President of the United States of America came...

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Yes. In the White House, there is a bowling alley.

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Is there? Yes. You've been to the White House? Many, many times.

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I feel that when she needs to sort of play something,

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she plays croquet.

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Yes, and you don't see her bowling. Do you both agree?

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Bowling alley would be the thing you would not find at Buckingham Palace?

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Absolutely. I am pretty sure.

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Our answer is...bowling alley.

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They have come to a decision with conviction,

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that a bowling alley is not in Buckingham Palace.

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OK, so, to be honest, I agree with them.

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I like the way that Biggins says there is definitely

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a swimming pool because he's seen it, so I'm going to agree

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with the panel and go with bowling alley, and I bet it's post office!

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But I'll go with bowling alley. OK.

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You're putting your trust in the panel,

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which could be a very, very dangerous thing.

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To get you up and running... Yes. ..here we go.

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For ?200, is there no bowling alley in Buckingham Palace?

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It's the correct answer. Well done. Thank you. Thank you so much.

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Thank you. Thank you. Well done.

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Biggins was, of course, right. There is the swimming pool.

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It's on the right-hand side as you look at that picture,

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by those trees on the corner.

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OK. It's lovely. It's a lovely position.

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You can swim whilst looking at the trees.

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And Nigel Havers was correct -

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there is a bowling alley in the basement of the White House.

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We all knew that! We all knew that! We've all been there! Liar!

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Hilary, you're up and running. ?200 in the bank.

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OK, here comes question two.

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And, as our panel have a terrified, unknowing look in their eyes,

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we shall ask Hilary for her first thoughts on this. OK.

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Amongst my many qualifications,

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I am actually a diploma holder of the faculty of astrological studies!

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Yeah!

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And I like talking to people - that's what I do -

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and people have their Saturn return in 29 years.

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That's when you become mature.

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Before 29, you're not really an adult, and when you're 29, you are.

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Wow! It's true!

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Congratulations! It'd better be right, hadn't it?

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Let's see if our panel can add anything to this.

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Your debate starts now. What do you think, scientist Konnie?

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I think Saturn. Really?

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I distinctly remember Saturn is 29.4 years, and Mars is a bit less,

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I think, and the others are a bit more.

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Yes. And Ur-anus? Er, my a... Oh!

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Best not talk about that for a minute! Do you mean Ura-nus?

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I think the correct pronunciation is Ura-nus.

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That was a cheap gag and not worthy of you, Havers. I...

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So this means that...

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I've seen this go around twice, then, in my lifetime, 29 years.

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And you've only seen it once. Er, yes. And I've hardly seen it at all!

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No, I think... What do you honestly think?

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I think it's definitely Saturn. Yes.

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We're going to go with Saturn. We're all going with Saturn.

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Our answer is Saturn.

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So, Hilary, obviously, you have some knowledge on this.

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By coincidence, all our panel knew that it was Saturn!

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We're all in agreement? I hope so. I hope so, too. Yes.

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For ?200, is Saturn the correct answer?

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It is the correct answer! Thank you. Well done, Hilary.

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Thank you. Well done. Well done, panel.

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Mars orbits the sun every 686 days. Uh-huh.

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Jupiter orbits the sun every 11.8 Earth years.

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Uranus... 84. ..orbits the sun every 84 Earth years.

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So, Hilary, you've got that question right.

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It's another ?200 into the prize pot.

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You're up to ?400.

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Phew!

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OK, here comes the final question of the round. 100% record so far.

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The only one I don't think it is is the Burma to Myanmar,

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because I think that's part of

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the reasonably current government's decision.

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And I'd be very interested

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in hearing the panel on the other three.

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I think we all would be very interested

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in hearing the panel on the other three.

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And so your debate starts now.

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Biggins, what do you think? I agree with Hilary on the Burma.

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So I think, probably, the first one

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was Persia to Iran.

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I can remember Ceylon to Sri Lanka.

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Yes, Ceylon and Burma are definitely recent.

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Siam to Thailand, we can remember. Some of us.

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So it's either between Persia to Iran...

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Or Siam to Thailand. Indeed. Yes, and I think it's Persia.

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And I go along with that. Yep. Yeah.

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What about you, Konnie? Yeah, Persia feels very old-fashioned.

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Yes, it does. Reminds you of historical references

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from other centuries gone by. Exactly.

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Poor Hilary is so confused there, look!

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OK, the panel thinks, I think,

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Persia to Iran.

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So the panel think that Persia to Iran happened first.

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They have a good political reason for this.

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Konnie believes it just sounds more old-fashioned.

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It's a good argument, no?

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Anything in there to make you change your mind? I don't know.

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Basically, as I said,

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I think Burma would have gone with this previous government.

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Yep. I think that Sri Lanka would have become Sri Lanka

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when they became independent from the UK,

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which I think would have been in the 1960s, I think.

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I think Persia to Iran would have happened

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after the First World War, when Iran and Iraq were started.

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But the Thailand thing - it's interesting to me

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that both Biggins and Nigel, who are about the same age as me,

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to be really honest, think they've seen it.

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The real question is, do I believe them?

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Yes, you got to factor that in, haven't you? Yeah.

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Need an answer, Hilary. I'm going to stay with Thailand.

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Siam to Thailand.

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OK, first time Hilary has disagreed with the panel.

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The correct answer is...

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It was Persia to Iran, Hilary. So sorry.

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You should have gone with the panel.

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I promise I will believe you next time! No, no, no, don't be silly.

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It was a difficult one. Persia to Iran was 1935.

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Siam to Thailand was 1939.

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Ceylon to Sri Lanka, 1972.

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And Burma to Myanmar was 1989.

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Not to worry, though, Hilary. Still plenty of cash up there. Yes.

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And you've done very well in the first round.

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You're on ?400.

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Thank you.

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So, Hilary, how do you think our panel has performed so far?

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I think they are brilliant,

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and I think that I should listen to them more!

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No, no, I don't think you should. No, I shall, I shall!

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Our panel has got three out of three so far. That's true, isn't it?

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At the end of the show, you're going to have to choose

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one of our panel to play our final debate.

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Based on their performances so far, who do we believe is standing out?

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I think the answer is that I refuse to speak

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on the grounds I may incriminate myself,

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because I don't want to put anybody off,

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so gentlemen, ladies,

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please give it your best and then I'll make a decision at the end.

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Very well said. Well said. That's a showbiz answer!

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"You just keep doing what you do and I'll choose later on"! Yes!

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OK, let's see how our panel cope with pictures.

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It is time for round two.

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Round two is our picture round.

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All you have to do is place three pictures in the correct order.

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There are three questions in this round.

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Each correct answer is now worth ?300.

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So here we go.

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Yes. I mean, this is an award-winning panel here. Exactly!

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Who will easily sort this out. Exactly. The debate starts now.

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Right... Let's... Let's put these up. Put them up.

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I think that the Brits was the most recent. Yes.

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Because it doesn't feel... And I think the first one...

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I agree with you, and I think the first one is the Academy Awards,

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cos I think then the Television Awards follow that.

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That is, I think, correct. And then we go to Konnie's.

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Have you ever won an Academy Award?

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No, but you've been to the Academy Awards. I did go to the... Yes.

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When Chariots Of Fire was up for a few Oscars, David Puttnam,

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the producer, said, you know, "Let's all go."

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He said, "We won't win anything,"

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but, you know, go for the beer, as they say.

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And we came away with four. Wow! Yeah. Yeah.

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It was such a wonderful film. It was kind of amazing.

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Do you know what month the Academy Awards...?

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It follows the Baftas, so it's sort of... March, isn't it?

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End of February, beginning of March. It's somewhere around about there.

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Are we shuffling them around?

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Yes, I think I want that one. Academy goes first.

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And I think this comes after.

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That's definitely in the right place. Yes, yes.

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These two are similar timing, are they?

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I... Let me think.

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No, I think these are after. Yeah, OK, good. I think... Yes.

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So the panel thinks that, starting with the earliest,

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it's the Academy Awards, then the National TV Awards,

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followed by the Brit Awards.

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That's what we think. Don't we? We do. Yes.

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So, Hilary, you hadn't a clue.

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You were putting all your faith in the panel. What do you think?

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I utterly agree with them.

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I liked the way that Konnie said that the Brit Awards would be last,

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and I like the way that I think Biggins was,

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who said he thought the Academy Awards would be the first,

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so I'm going entirely with their decision.

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So you have absolute conviction in our panel?

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I have a million times more conviction in them

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than myself on this topic, so yes.

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OK. If this is correct, ?300 in the prize pot.

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Is that the correct order?

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It's the wrong order. What's the right one?

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Let's see the correct order.

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Oh, no! Completely the opposite, in fact. That's my fault.

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The National Television Awards on 20th January,

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then the Brit Awards on 24th February 2016,

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then the Academy Awards on 28th February.

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And that is the look of a panel

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that got that question absolutely and completely wrong.

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I mean, they are very close.

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I mean, they're very close to each other, and I, seriously,

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gentlemen and lady, would not have known the answer,

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so thank you, keep on going.

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Ah, Hilary, thank you. We were so certain, weren't we?

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So certain. It's very interesting. I mean, they're days away.

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You see, the thing is, if you're not nominated, who cares?

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Unfortunately, Hilary, you did get that wrong.

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It means that you still have ?400 in your prize pot, though.

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OK, Hilary, here comes your second picture question.

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Yes! You're smiling, Hilary. I am, yes. This is good news?

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Yes, it's certainly better than the last question, for me.

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So Scafell Pike is the highest mountain in England,

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and I believe it's in the Lake District.

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Mount Snowdon's in Wales. I have actually been there.

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Ben Nevis, though, is in Scotland, so the real question is,

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is it east or west of Scafell Pike?

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And that is something I would really like to hear the panel's opinions.

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So, panel... What a shame, Hilary, you'd like to hear from us!

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For a moment, Hilary, I thought you were really going to nail this one.

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So that's some good knowledge there.

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Let's see if our panel can fill in the gaps.

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Panel, the debate starts now.

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It seems like it's fairly obvious, in a way, isn't it? Yes, it is.

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Snowdon, being in Wales, would be the furthest west. Yeah. Mm.

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Pike, being in the Lake District, in England, would be the central one.

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The middle one. And then I'm sure that Ben Nevis is east.

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But then Scotland does a bit of... The country does a bit of a...

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Juts out. I know, but even so, I think it's...

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I don't know, I think it's that way, isn't it? I think... Hang on.

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Have you climbed...? All three. I was going to say.

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Before I came here this morning! You've probably climbed one of them.

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Oh, yeah, all three. All three?

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You must have done one. No, I haven't.

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I've been up Mount Snowdon, but not climbing. Oh.

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I've been to one, but I've never set foot on it.

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I've seen Ben Nevis from afar, from...

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Where in Scotland were you when you saw it? Oh, that's a good point!

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Just beneath Ben Nevis, I was!

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Whereabouts in Scotland was that? All right!

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Gave me a funny look then, Hilary! Whereabouts? Well, I don't know.

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I was touring around. I honestly do believe it's east.

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I do believe it's east. So, is it a trick?

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You know, because the Lake District

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does sort of jut out west a bit, does it not?

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I feel - but I could be wrong - it's not that far from Loch Lomond,

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but I could be totally wrong.

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The obvious one is Snowdon being the furthest west, correct? Yes.

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I'm going to put Snowdon there. OK. Furthest west.

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And I'm going to keep Ben Nevis here. And I'll keep Scafell Pike.

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Have we settled? I think we're settled. Yeah, settled.

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So, we, as the panel, think that the mountains, in geographical,

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from west to east, go...

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Mount Snowdon,

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Scafell Pike,

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and then Ben Nevis.

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That's the order of our panel.

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Konnie, of course, has been to Mount Snowdon.

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Biggins has looked up at Ben Nevis.

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But they've decided to go with Nigel's instinct

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of Snowdon, Scafell Pike and then Ben Nevis.

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I would like to, yet again, agree with them,

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especially because I think it was Konnie who said that Ben Nevis

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was near Loch Lomond,

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and I have been to Loch Lomond - it's near Glasgow.

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I believe that would be east of the Lake District.

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I sincerely trust that it is correct.

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Let's see. Let's see, Hilary.

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You're going with the panel.

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You are saying it's Snowdon, then Scafell Pike,

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and then Ben Nevis, from west to east, for ?300.

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Correct order is...

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Ooh! It's the wrong order.

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Oh, what a shame. Go on, what's right?

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Konnie has her head in her hands. You may be right.

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Let's see the correct order.

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Oh! Really? Ben Nevis is furthest west.

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Well, then it can't be near Loch Lomond. No.

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So, let's have a look where they actually are on the map.

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Ben Nevis... It's the jut.

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..just west of Snowdon. Oh, that's so close.

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Snowdon is one of the oldest mountains in the world,

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around 400 million years old.

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So, Hilary, that was the wrong answer.

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Our panel were doing so well straight out of the blocks

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in the first round, with a 100% record.

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This round, they haven't got any right. Neither have you.

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There's still plenty of opportunities to get the cash up.

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You remain on ?400.

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OK, let's have a look at a third picture question.

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You a tennis fan? Yes, sort of.

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Martina I love because she's the same age as me!

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Yeah. And I would always put her as the top.

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And if she's not, she ought to be!

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But, again, I would like to hear what the panel have to say. OK.

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I'm assuming this panel has ate many strawberries and quaffed much

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champagne at Wimbledon over the years. Panel, can we sort this out?

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Your debate starts now. Yes, this is a tough one. Mm, tricky.

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Slightly tricky question, because it says "singles titles". Yeah.

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Martina played a lot of doubles and she won lots of doubles titles.

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But she also won a lot of singles. She did. I mean, I think she...

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I agree with Hilary.

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I mean, I think she's the great player of all of them,

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but Serena Williams, of course, is a dark horse because

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she, in fact, has won a lot, hasn't she?

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Well, as years roll by, Martina's been retired for some...

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She has, but she did have an amazing run of luck.

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She had a long stretch. Or rather run of good play.

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Roger Federer, I think, is...

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I think we could safely put him least, somehow.

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He's won maybe eight titles.

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Yeah, but I think the girls have won a lot more. I agree.

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Let's put Roger... Do you agree with that? Yeah, I'm going with that.

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The least amount of singles titles there.

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Sounds amazing, cos he's won lots. I know. And he's a brilliant player.

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Serena... I know Serena's won so many times

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and I now wish she wouldn't win! Yes.

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I know that sounds a bit mean,

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but she keeps winning every year, and I want to see...

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Give someone else a chance! However, erm...

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Martina did hold that record for a very long time. She did.

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I don't remember anyone saying,

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"Serena's overtaken Martina's record."

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You'd have heard some sort of...

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It would have been a big thing. So I think...

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I think we are in the right order.

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So, the panel have come to the agreement now that the

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champions, in order of number of Wimbledon singles they have won,

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go Roger Federer the least, Serena second, and the most, Martina.

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So, Hilary, they have agreed with you.

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They think that Martina has won the most, and that's the order they

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put the other two in.

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They think Roger Federer has won the fewest and Serena in the middle.

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Well, I'm very, very interested

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to hear what they were saying about Serena and Roger.

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I am going to go with them and hope that this time we're going to

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be correct.

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It is interesting to me - my perception is there is more

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competition with the men

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and that the men's singles title changes more frequently, whereas,

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as you say, Serena has a row of luck and Martina has a row of luck.

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Let's go with it. NIGEL: I like that. Yes, exactly.

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So I will go entirely with what the panel have said.

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So, once again, Hilary has gone with the panel.

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Let's see if this works out any better than our mountains.

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Roger Federer, Serena Williams and Martina Navratilova.

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Is this the right order?

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It's the wrong order! So, go on.

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Well, just don't tell me... What is the right answer?

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Let's see the correct order.

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Serena Williams has won the fewest,

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then Roger Federer,

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then Martina Navratilova.

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Serena Williams has six Wimbledon singles titles, then Roger Federer

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has seven singles titles, then Martina Navratilova has nine.

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That's a tough question, if I may say so. I agree.

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It is a tough question - that's why we need intelligence from our

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panel, which... Sadly... ..which we have today!

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Hilary, unfortunately,

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you didn't manage to bank anything for that question and nothing

0:25:330:25:37

in the picture round, so at the end of round two, you're still

0:25:370:25:40

on ?400!

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Tricky questions! Oh, yeah.

0:25:430:25:45

So, our panel, out of the blocks, did so well in the first round.

0:25:450:25:50

No help whatsoever in the second round! If there was one person...

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Yes. ..that you could choose to play the final debate, who would that be?

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Tell the truth. I'm still refusing to speak

0:25:590:26:01

on the grounds I may incriminate myself. Still refusing to speak?

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Also, to be honest,

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I like the way that they do interact and they do help me. They do.

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Yes. And the fact that we all got it wrong is just sad. It's true.

0:26:100:26:13

They get it wrong in such an entertaining way. They do, they do.

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They really do. We look good when we get it wrong! Yeah.

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You look good all the time, let's be clear. Never mind, Hilary.

0:26:210:26:23

Still ?1,500 up for grabs in round three. Yes!

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OK, Hilary. In this round, you'll face questions that contain

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three statements about a person, a place or a thing.

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Only one of those statements, though, is true.

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You have to decide which one.

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Three questions in this round. Because it's our final round,

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each question is worth ?500, so still loads of cash up there.

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Best of luck. Here's your first question.

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There's a good question.

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OK, I know that A is wrong because "stannous" is tin, and therefore

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a stannary would be a tin mine. So that has to be wrong.

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So it could be B or C. I have been to the Eiffel Tower.

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Would you build a tower from iron? Might be.

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I know that in bronze, there is copper. But is there also iron?

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Over to the panel, please. This is good.

0:27:370:27:39

Very good knowledge there from Hilary. She's ruling out A.

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Let's see if our panel can sort the other two out.

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Your debate starts now. Wish we could! No, I think we can.

0:27:460:27:50

I think you're absolutely right, a stannary is tin.

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St is the chemical sign for tin...

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Yeah. So it's not that. And iron isn't used to make bronze...

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I mean, I don't... I think the Eiffel Tower...

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What is bronze made of? Bronze is made from...

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Isn't it copper and tin? Yes, it's... It's not iron.

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I've got two heads of myself made from bronze and I'm sure

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there's no iron in it.

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No...

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Anyway...

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But doesn't it seem somewhat obvious for the Eiffel Tower

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to be built entirely out of...?

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No, I don't think it is, because I think that's what they did

0:28:210:28:24

in those days. Yeah.

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I think that was a perfectly very strong metal to make

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something as extraordinary...

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What else could you make the Eiffel Tower out of? Er, paper.

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I know, but the chemical...

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Cake! Cake?! Gold? Gold! The thing about gold is, it's very malleable.

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The chemical symbol for tin is Sn, actually.

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But... No, I think, seriously, I think the Eiffel Tower is...

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Yeah, and it's not the last one and, yeah,

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I don't think it's the first one, either. Very good.

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I think we have our answer. I think we do.

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The answer is that the Eiffel Tower is built almost entirely of iron.

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I say that with such authority! It is authoritative.

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Is it correct, Hilary?

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Now, you thought that tin was mined in an area called a stannary. Yes.

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Scientific knowledge from Konnie - she thinks that bronze is

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made from copper and tin.

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I'm going to say that the point of Konnie is that she knows that

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there is no iron in bronze. Now I'm doubting!

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And I'm going to go with the panel with B and let's hope for the best.

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Absolutely no pressure here, Konnie!

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Scientific knowledge brought to the fore.

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For ?500, is the Eiffel Tower built almost entirely from iron?

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Yes! It's the correct answer! Thank you, Konnie. Well done, Hilary.

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Thank you! Well played. Well done, panel. Good knowledge from Konnie.

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The Eiffel Tower was built almost entirely from iron.

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The Eiffel Tower is nicknamed the Iron Lady. Is it? It is.

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Tin is mined in a stannary - you were right about that -

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and bronze is traditionally composed of...

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Copper and tin. ..copper and tin. Phew!

0:30:080:30:11

And the good news is that our panel is back on track. Yes! Yes!

0:30:110:30:15

Good knowledge all round.

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That's 500 quid added to the prize pot, giving you a new total,

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Hilary, of ?900!

0:30:220:30:23

Let's see if we can stick another 500 in the prize pot.

0:30:260:30:29

Here comes your next question.

0:30:290:30:30

How's your movie knowledge?

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I'm hoping that the panel have a better movie knowledge than I,

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especially about whether he does win Oscars or not.

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I'm hoping that they will be able to name what they believe is the

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world's highest-grossing film of all time and whether they would

0:31:060:31:09

tell me whether that was something we...

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I would then know whether Harrison Ford was in it.

0:31:110:31:14

And as for Indiana Jones, my theory is that, actually,

0:31:140:31:17

that might be true.

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I know it was at least three, but, actually,

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it might have had a four-times. Or was it a five? I don't know.

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So I'm going to hand over to them.

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That's what we would all like them to tell us.

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We have two actors on the panel. This will be sorted out so quickly.

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Panel, the debate starts now. We can sort this out.

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The highest-grossing film was, for a long time, Titanic. Yes.

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And then Avatar overtook it. Overtook it, right.

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And now Avatar, I think, is the highest-grossing film.

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Star Wars pretty close behind. Yeah.

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But I don't think they are the highest-grossing film.

0:31:490:31:51

I think that rubs that one out. Yes. I don't think he's won an Oscar.

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I don't think he's won an Oscar. Do you, Konnie?

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I would have remembered the acceptance speech. Exactly, and...

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He's a very laid-back guy. Certainly not for Witness, too, either.

0:32:030:32:06

I think that's... That was... I think it was a very good film.

0:32:060:32:09

Yeah. It was a good film. The only thing I worry about the last, C,

0:32:090:32:13

has he played Indiana Jones in a feature film four times,

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I wonder whether it's more than four times.

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Yes, that worried me, too. But I think there were three

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and then there was a big gap. Yes, and then they did the fourth.

0:32:210:32:24

Raiders Of The Lost Ark, Temple Of Doom, Last Crusade.

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And they're now making a fifth. Then no doubt a sixth.

0:32:280:32:30

He'll be 105! I think we have to go with C, in a way. And I think we do.

0:32:300:32:35

What do you...? Konnie, are you...? I think so. OK. Yeah.

0:32:350:32:39

So the panel thinks it's C, Harrison Ford

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has played Indiana Jones four times.

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So, Hilary, that is the knowledge from the panel.

0:32:460:32:49

Has that led you to change your mind or do you agree with the panel?

0:32:490:32:53

No, I agree with the panel.

0:32:530:32:55

I think I originally said that I thought it was Indiana Jones

0:32:550:32:59

four times. I'm hoping that we all agree. Let's hope it's right.

0:32:590:33:03

Let's hope it's right. If it is correct,

0:33:030:33:05

we stick another 500 into that prize pot.

0:33:050:33:08

Has Harrison Ford played Indiana Jones in a feature film four times?

0:33:080:33:12

It's the correct answer! Thank you. Thank you very much. Very well done.

0:33:170:33:23

Very well done, panel. Well worked out.

0:33:230:33:25

The four films were Raiders Of The Lost Ark, The Temple Of Doom,

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The Last Crusade and The Kingdom Of The Crystal Skull.

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He was nominated for an Oscar in Witness...

0:33:330:33:35

Yep. ..because it was a very good movie. His only nomination.

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And he's never won. He has never won an Oscar.

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Avatar is the world's highest- grossing film and he wasn't in it.

0:33:430:33:47

No.

0:33:470:33:48

So, well done. That's another 500 added to the prize pot,

0:33:490:33:53

giving you a new total of ?1,400!

0:33:530:33:55

And our panel are back on track. Yes. Here's question three.

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My first thought is A,

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because of the whole concept of Mr Micawber and the debtors' prison.

0:34:220:34:27

I'm pretty sure that he'd be in Poets' Corner in Westminster Abbey.

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But that is a guess, to be honest. But I'm pretty sure.

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And I don't think the Nobel Prize was going as early as

0:34:340:34:38

Charles Dickens, but, again, could be wrong.

0:34:380:34:40

So I would be very interested to hear what the panel have to say.

0:34:400:34:44

So, initially, you think...

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A. You think A, you think his father spent time in prison.

0:34:450:34:49

Our panel, of course, extremely well read! Ha! Sorry.

0:34:490:34:53

Your debate starts now.

0:34:530:34:54

The thing is, I feel that all three could be correct,

0:34:540:34:57

but I think Hilary's right about he's not buried in St Paul's.

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No, I know that he's not buried in St Paul's.

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Without doubt. I think it is Westminster. And I have a feeling...

0:35:060:35:10

I'd go with Hilary, because I don't think the Nobel Prize...

0:35:100:35:13

Was it around in those days, the Nobel Prize?

0:35:130:35:16

Well, you know, I've seen and read about Dickens and seen

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a couple of films and it's never mentioned that he won a Nobel Prize.

0:35:190:35:21

No. But I think it does fit in with his father spending time in prison.

0:35:210:35:26

Yeah. A lot of that literature...

0:35:260:35:28

That would have made the Nobel Prize, though, in the end of...

0:35:280:35:32

sort of 1890-something. 1880s. '80, yes.

0:35:320:35:35

I think... Would it be...?

0:35:350:35:37

What's the earliest Nobel Prize that you can think of? It's definitely...

0:35:370:35:43

Isn't it 1900? I think you're right. You gave it out, didn't you?

0:35:430:35:47

Yes!

0:35:470:35:48

Well, I think, certainly, his father spent time in prison is your answer.

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Yes. And if it's wrong, we're all wrong, you can't blame us.

0:35:530:35:56

- No, that's a very good point. - I never blame you!

0:35:560:35:59

So we're going to go...

0:35:590:36:00

We've made up our minds, panel? Yes, I think so.

0:36:000:36:03

The panel thinks it's A, Charles Dickens' father

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spent time in prison.

0:36:060:36:08

So, Hilary, they're not quite sure when the Nobel Prize for Literature

0:36:100:36:14

was first awarded, but they think it was after Charles Dickens.

0:36:140:36:17

Biggins pretty sure that he's not buried in St Paul's Cathedral.

0:36:170:36:22

They're going with you. They believe his father spent time in prison.

0:36:220:36:25

Well, I do think that he got the whole concept of Mr Micawber

0:36:250:36:30

and not wanting to spend more than you actually earn from the

0:36:300:36:34

fact that his father spent time in a debtors' prison.

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I would like to stay with the panel and stay with A.

0:36:370:36:40

OK, we're all agreed. For ?500, the correct answer is...

0:36:400:36:43

It's the correct answer! Well done! Very nice work.

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Very nice work from our panel.

0:36:550:36:58

Dickens' father went to prison for debt. You were correct about that.

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He was buried in Poets' Corner at Westminster Abbey.

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Correct there, Biggins.

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And the Nobel Prize for Literature was introduced in 1901,

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31 years after Dickens's death.

0:37:090:37:12

Hilary, good Dickens knowledge, I have to say. Yes! Well done.

0:37:120:37:16

And well played, panel, once again.

0:37:160:37:18

At the end of that round, we've really got the cash up.

0:37:180:37:20

Your prize pot - ?1,900!

0:37:200:37:22

And that's the amount that you are going to be playing for

0:37:260:37:29

in today's final debate. Yes. Now, quite a lot of money, Hilary.

0:37:290:37:32

What would you do with that cash?

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Well, my husband is going to be 50 next year, and so I asked him

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a couple of years ago, "Where would you like to go?"

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And he said Florence. He's never been there, in Italy,

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and me being me, I immediately got the guidebooks, got the map and

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I've worked it all out

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and I will use the money to take him to Florence.

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OK, so a lovely romantic break in Florence.

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All right, Hilary, there's only one question that stands between

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you and the money, and that is today's final debate.

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Now, in our final debate, Hilary, you will face only one question.

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That question will have six possible answers, with only three correct.

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As before, you're not playing alone, but as this is the final debate,

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we're going to make things a little more tricky,

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as you must choose one member of our panel to play with you.

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You and your celebrity will have 45 seconds on the clock to debate the

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question. So, who are you going to ask to join you in the final debate?

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Well, it breaks my heart to have to choose one person, and I don't want

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the other two to feel in any way that they didn't contribute,

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because they did.

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I'm going to have to choose Biggins!

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Slightly surprised himself!

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Biggins, would you please join us as we play today's final debate?

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So, Biggins, Hilary has chosen you for the final debate.

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Yes. Very excited! Yes, thank you. You're excited.

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Are you feeling confident? Yes, I am.

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I mean, it's touch-and-go, this game.

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You never know quite what the answer is. But we'll be all right,

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won't we? Yes. We will. Yes.

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OK, it's looking like a good team. Best of luck.

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Because it is the final debate, Hilary, we're going to give you

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the choice of two categories, so have a look at this.

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This is down to you, darling!

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I know. I used to be a Liberal Democrat candidate.

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We won't go for that, then! No, let's not! So let's go with...

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No, no. Seriously, let's go with the UK.

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Yeah, I think probably better, yes. I think so. More scope. Exactly.

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We'll go with the UK. All right, we're going with the UK.

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So, six possible answers up there.

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I need all three in order to win the money. ?1,900 up for grabs.

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45 seconds on the clock.

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Hilary, here is today's final debate question.

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Right. OK... So, Hilary and Biggins, for the final time today,

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your 45 seconds starts now. I think it's Birmingham, Glasgow, Sheffield.

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Well, I couldn't agree more. Seriously? Seriously, I couldn't...

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Because I know it's not Edinburgh.

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Which is EH. Exactly. Nor Glasgow. Well, it was...

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No, it IS Glasgow. Oh, it is...

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What did you say? Edinburgh, Glasgow, Sheffield.

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Sorry, Birmingham, Glasgow, Sheffield.

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Ah! What did you think it was, then?

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I thought it was Birmingham, Sheffield and Newcastle. But...

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OK, so we don't think it's Leeds, so we do know it's Birmingham and

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Sheffield, so is it Glasgow or is it Newcastle?

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What do you think the...? Do you know the postcode for Glasgow?

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I would assume it's just G2 or G20.

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It's where there's a lot of government things.

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You'd think it would be...

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Time up, guys. Hilary, I need three answers, please.

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I'm still going to stay with Birmingham, Glasgow, Sheffield.

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Birmingham, Glasgow and Sheffield.

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OK, Hilary, we need three correct answers for that ?1,900.

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First up, we had Birmingham. Is Birmingham a correct answer?

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It is! Yes! OK. APPLAUSE

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The letter B.

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Then it was Sheffield.

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Is Sheffield a correct answer, to keep us on track for 1,900?

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It is! Yes! Right. OK, OK. APPLAUSE

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So, it brings us to Glasgow. OK.

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Now, straight out of the blocks, you thought you were in agreement. Yes!

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It turns out you weren't. I wasn't sure. Biggins suggested Newcastle.

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You decided to go with Glasgow. Yes.

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Hilary, if it is the correct answer, it's ?1,900. OK.

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If not, I'm afraid you do leave with nothing. Fine. Here we go.

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For ?1,900, is Glasgow correct?

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It is! Yes! Oh! Mwah!

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Fantastic! Well done! Thank you. Well done.

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Hilary, congratulations. Very well done.

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Well played. Thank you.

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Birmingham is B, Sheffield is S, Glasgow is G.

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Edinburgh is EH,

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Newcastle is NE, Leeds is LS.

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Liverpool is L. Well worked out.

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Very well played. Yeah, well done. You leave today with ?1,900.

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Let's hear it for Hilary! APPLAUSE

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Brilliant! Thank you, thank you.

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That is it for Debatable.

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There's just enough time for me to thank our fantastic panel,

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Christopher Biggins, Konnie Huq and Nigel Havers!

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APPLAUSE I do hope you've enjoyed watching.

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We will see you next time for more heated debates.

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For now, it's goodbye from me.

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Well done! Thank you. Very well done.

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