Episode 6 Debatable

Hello and welcome to Debatable, the quiz show where talk is cheap,

but celebrity chat can win a contestant money.

Today, one player must answer a series of tricky questions

to try to bag our jackpot of £2,000, but they're not on their own

as they'll also have a panel of celebrity brainboxes

debating their way to the answer.

Will they help or will they hinder?

Well, that's debatable, so let's meet them.

On today's show, we have

actress Sunetra Sarker,

we have weather presenter Carol Kirkwood

and writer and broadcaster, Rick Edwards.

That's our panel, let's meet today's contestant.

It is Magid El-Bushra from London.

Welcome to the show.

Tell us a bit about yourself.

I'm 36, I'm from London. I'm an opera singer and...

Whoa! You can't just roll on from that one. You're an opera singer?

Yeah, I'm a countertenor which is a little bit higher than a tenor.

I've been doing that for many, many years.

-Well, we have to hear this, don't we?

-Yes, definitely.

Don't worry, we'll give you the big intro. So, panel, here he is.

We need three yeses for him to go through to the next round.

Off you go, Magid.

HE SINGS OPERATICALLY

-APPLAUSE

-Yes! Yes!

-Wowee.

That look was four people who actually pretend they have talent,

looking at someone who genuinely has!

-Well done! OK, look, we wish you the best of luck.

-Thank you.

Lots of cash up there for grabs and we hope you get it today.

So, let's get this Debatable show on the road as we play Round 1.

Magid, this round is multiple choice.

Each question has four possible answers,

but only one of those is correct.

Helping you, apparently, find the correct answer is our panel.

Will you go with what they say or will you go your own way?

It's entirely up to you. There are two questions in this round.

Each correct answer is worth £200.

-Ready to play?

-Let's do it.

OK, let's do it. Here we go, first question.

How is your sports knowledge?

Next to zero.

But the phrase has hands in it.

I'm going with boxing or fencing at the moment.

You're thinking boxing or fencing.

Let's see if our panel can tussle this one out.

Panel, your debate starts now.

-This is a hard one.

-Well...

Working on the premise of hands,

when you're talking about horses, your talk about them in hands.

I was thinking that.

-But hands DOWN?

-What would that mean?

-That might be cricket.

Won with the horse lying down? Don't know about that.

You know when you're boxing,

-when your hands go down.

-I think boxing...

When your guard drops, your hands are down, and sometimes boxers,

if they're beating someone easily, will just drop their guard,

sort of slightly mocking them.

To suggest, "I can win even with my hands down."

Yeah, I can win even without my guard up.

Similarly, fencing, if your hands were down,

-you're open for anyone to get you.

-Yeah, yeah.

-Yeah, yeah.

-My fencing knowledge is limited.

-It's kind of like this, isn't it?

Isn't your hand behind your back?

That's true, one hand is behind your back.

-So, it'll be hands down.

-Hand down.

Cricket, any leg before wicket?

I can't see where hands down would come from with cricket.

Oh, what about this? What about with horse riding?

If you did take your hands and took them down and you run

-even without holding on to the reins.

-Without holding the reins?

-I like that.

-That is very plausible.

You'd say he won by a furlong in horse racing, wouldn't you?

So, working on that, boxing looks like...

-Yeah.

-..it would be the natural one.

-OK, so are we agreed?

-Boxing.

-Boxing?

-Yeah, I think we are.

OK, we think, the panel,

the sport that gave rise to the saying "win hands down" is boxing.

OK, they've plumped with boxing,

-which was one of your original choices.

-Yeah.

If you won with your hands down in boxing,

that would mean that you haven't even lifted your hands to box.

So, logic would lead me to agree with the panel.

You're agreeing with the panel?

You are going for boxing.

I'd love to say there's some confidence in this!

We're all agreed, let's see if we can get up and running for £200.

Does boxing give rise to the saying "to win hands down"?

-Oh!

-Horse racing. AUDIENCE GASP

-Sorry.

-It does, Magid, it does mean to win easily.

A jockey needs to keep a tight rein on a horse in order to encourage it.

If a jockey's so far ahead, he can actually afford just to loosen

his grip a little bit, and that's where the hands down comes from.

-What you said.

-Yeah, well done.

-I'm sorry.

No, well, I didn't really know.

-Well, I learnt something new, at least.

-You did.

A lot of what you've learnt may have been about our panel.

Unfortunately, nothing for our first question.

There's loads of opportunities to try to get that cash up,

so here comes your next question, best of luck.

-Well...

-OTHERS LAUGH

I have absolutely no idea.

I'd tend to go with Shaken Not Stirred at this point.

Don't worry, we have a...

Sorry! Worry, we're about to hand this over to our panel.

Come on, panel, we can sort this out. The debate starts now.

Shall we go through them one by one? Armed And Fabulous...

-can't be right.

-I just don't see the word fabulous being...

If it's Armed And Fabulous, I'll give Magid the money myself.

-OK.

-That's no problem.

Think about what the American paperback edition would be,

so not the British paperback edition, the American.

-Licence To Thrill is too naff, isn't it?

-But it's...

Even Americans wouldn't read a book called Licence To Thrill.

Too Hot To Handle, that was

a different movie altogether, wasn't it?

Marilyn Monroe was in Too Hot To Handle, wasn't she?

-No, that was Some Like It Hot.

-Yes!

Funnily enough, I was going to go for Too Hot To Handle.

There's something about Too Hot To Handle, cos it sounds

a little bit From Russia With Love.

-Yeah!

-Like some of those titles, you know?

-Alliteration, it's got that kind of...

-Feels plausible.

-Shaken Not Stirred just feels a bit too...

-Obvious?

-Yeah.

It's between Shaken Not Stirred...

I would get rid of Licence To Thrill.

OK, Too Hot To Handle or Shaken Not Stirred?

Go with your instincts on this, Carol.

OK, the panel think the title used for the first American

paperback edition of the James Bond novel Moonraker...

..is Too Hot To Handle.

Our panel back and forward between Shaken Not Stirred,

Too Hot To Handle,

although everyone watching is praying

that it is Armed And Fabulous, so...

I'll just get the chequebook out!

..Rick'll give the money himself.

Now, has that helped, has it hindered? What do we think?

It's helped in a way.

I would agree with Armed And Fabulous,

it's just a bit too camp, isn't it?

You'd just imagine him wearing a big wig and a sequin dress.

I don't think it's Armed And Fabulous.

I feel that Too Hot To Handle just sounds a bit...

a little bit naff for James Bond.

I think... I hope I don't live to regret this, but I think

I'm going to go with Shaken Not Stirred.

You have gone against the panel, who have suggested Too Hot To Handle.

Is Shaken Not Stirred the first American paperback edition

of Moonraker, for £200?

-Oh!

-It's the wrong answer! It was Too Hot To Handle, Magid.

It was actually thought that the name was changed because of a play

by Arthur Watkin

was also running at the time, called Moonraker.

Armed And Fabulous is actually the subtitle to the film

Miss Congeniality 2, there it is!

Great film.

If anybody's armed and fabulous, there she is. Sandra Bullock.

Unfortunately, Magid, you should have gone with the panel there.

Don't worry, don't worry,

we still have lots of opportunities to get the cash up.

You didn't win anything in that round, but we have Rounds 2 and 3

to try to get your prize pot up,

so let's see how they cope with pictures.

It's time for Round 2.

Round 2 is our picture round, Magid.

All you have to do is place three pictures in correct order.

Two questions in this round and each correct answer is worth £300.

-So, lots of opportunities to get the cash up.

-OK.

-Here we go.

Angel Of The North and Blackpool Tower,

I've never seen.

So, I'd need a lot of help with this.

We have a very well-travelled panel here, who I'm sure have

visited all of these attractions and can pop them in order for you.

The debate starts now.

You know what? I have visited them all,

but it's not helping.

And how tall were they?

-Tall, they were all tall.

-All tall? Perfect. We're done.

-All taller than Carol.

-All tall.

The Blackpool Tower, all I can tell you about that

is, apart from it being tall,

it's got that glass panel,

like the leap of faith

that you walk on and you look down through it.

-And you hope it doesn't crack.

-That is a pretty tall tower.

I was going to say I thought

maybe Blackpool Tower

is the tallest of them all.

I've seen the Angel Of The North.

I feel like it is tall, but it looks tall

cos it's in the middle of nowhere.

And it's on a little hillock.

And then I would say London Eye, then Blackpool Tower.

-Shall we put it in our order, then?

-Who's got the smallest?

-Who's got Angel Of The North?

-I've got... I'm in the right place.

OK, the panel think that the landmarks in order of height

from the shortest to the tallest is the Angel Of The North,

then the London Eye and then Blackpool Tower.

OK, the panel has gone for Angel Of The North, London Eye,

Blackpool Tower - do you agree with them?

I've never been north of Watford,

so I'm going to go with

what the panel suggested, 100%.

Best of luck to everyone.

We're going for Angel Of The North,

then the London Eye,

then the Blackpool Tower.

Shortest to tallest for £300.

The correct order is...

-Yes!

-It's the right order.

'So happy.'

-Well done, gang.

-Well done!

-Brilliant.

-Thank you very much.

Very well played, everyone.

So, Angel Of The North, the shortest - 20 metres.

Then a huge jump, the London Eye - 135 metres tall.

The Blackpool Tower - 158 metres tall.

The 32 capsules

in the London Eye represent the 32 boroughs of London.

-Oh!

-It was the correct answer and you're on £300. Well done.

Thanks, guys.

Breathe a sigh of relief

and let's have a look at question two.

OK, Rev is definitely

the most recent,

I'd say Father Ted was the oldest

and Vicar Of Dibley was in the middle.

OK, let's turn this one over to the panel.

Carol's got a smile on her face, let's hope that's good news.

Panel, the debate starts now.

Well, I actually think that

Magid's got something there.

Because if you think back, Father Ted,

you know, it's a lot of respect to a priest, Father,

whereas nowadays you would

just call them Rev.

-In my head, Rev is the newest one on screen, I think.

-Me too.

We're settled on Rev

being the most recent,

I think we know that.

Magid knows that.

When do we think Vicar Of Dibley and Father Ted started?

My issue is I think it was about the same time.

-Oh, do you?

-I think they're both mid-90s.

-Channel 4 did Father Ted.

-I seem to remember Father Ted earlier.

Earlier than mid-90s?

Yeah, unless it was just that

I enjoyed the Vicar Of Dibley more.

Especially...

Do you remember the scene

where she walks along the puddle...

Straight in? That was brilliant.

Yeah, but can you remember

what year that scene transmitted, Carol?

I don't think I was really of an age

where I should have been watching Father Ted

whereas I definitely know when Vicar Of Dibley was on,

I was a little bit older.

I'm pretty confident in saying that Rev is the youngest

-and Father Ted's the oldest out of the shows.

-Me too.

The thing is it's guesswork for me, I think they're similar times.

I think Father Ted might have been

after, but I think probably go with what you guys are saying.

So, Vicar Of Dibley...

OK, so the panel have decided that the sitcoms in order

when they were first transmitted, starting with the earliest one,

is Father Ted, then The Vicar Of Dibley, and then Rev.

OK, our panel are going for Father Ted,

The Vicar Of Dibley and Rev.

All three religious sitcoms there, Magid.

Any facts standing out

or are we looking for some divine intervention?

We always need divine intervention.

Yes, we do, my son.

We do, yes.

Erm, I am pretty sure that I'm going to go with

what the panel have suggested because it's along the lines of

what my gut instinct was saying.

It was your first instinct,

you're going for Father Ted

was first transmitted, followed by The Vicar Of Dibley

and then Rev.

For £300, is that the correct order?

AUDIENCE GASP It's the wrong order.

Let's see the correct order.

-Oh!

-Rick, your instincts were right, fella. The Vicar Of Dibley.

-I'm so sorry.

-Father Ted and then Rev. Let's go through it here.

The Vicar Of Dibley - '94, Father Ted, just a year later - '95,

and Rev in 2010.

I mean, they're too close, Patrick.

That's the thing, it was quite hard.

They are too close and that's why

we need some expert help from the panel.

Unfortunately, nothing for that one, Magid.

It means at the end of Round 2, you're still on £300.

Not to worry, there is still £1,000 up for grabs.

Let's play Round 3.

So, Magid, in this round, you will face questions that contain

three statements about a person, a place or a thing.

Only one of those statements is true.

You must try to find the true statement.

Two questions in this round.

Because it's our last round, we're going to up the money,

£500 for each correct answer, so lots of chances to win.

We'll get your prize pot up, here we go.

I am currently going towards C.

Any reason why George Bush is drawing you in?

Because I know that he is a Texan,

which doesn't necessarily mean that he was born in Texas.

He might have just adopted that as his home state.

Panel, £500 up for grabs.

Let's see if we can get this money up for Magid.

Your debate starts now.

I was pretty hard on, "Birthplace of George Bush Jr,"

until Magid made the excellent point that he might have just adopted it.

-But he was governor of there, wasn't he?

-Yes!

And he wears the silly cowboy hat.

I also feel that he's a Texan.

Remember when he was talking about Osama bin Laden and he said,

"We're going to smoke him out like a true Texan."

-He was bandying around the word Texan a lot.

-Yeah, he was.

And you wouldn't say that, would you, unless you were a Texan?

-Would you?

-And when you look at the other two as well...

-It is him!

-Is it the largest state in the USA?

It's a pretty big state, it's heading down

towards the Gulf of Mexico, but is it the biggest?

Alaska... Alaska's huge.

So, the next one, "Became a US state before California."

-Wouldn't have a clue.

-I wouldn't have a clue about that either.

Hawaii was one of the last states to...

Yeah, I think we don't know the answer

to the US state before California question,

so I think we feel more confident with birthplace.

It'll be frustrating if it is

"Became a US state before California."

So, the panel are going to go for

the true fact here about the US state of Texas is...

..it's the birthplace of George Bush Jr.

OK, Magid, our panel are in agreement.

That was the one you were thinking of to start with.

Yeah, like the panel, "Became a US state before California,"

I just don't know the answer to that.

So, it's a tough one.

I'm going to go with C, Birthplace of George Bush Jr.

OK, we need this one to be correct, we want to get that prize pot up.

£500 at stake. The panel say, "Birthplace of George Bush Jr."

Magid, you have gone with them. Let's see.

Is Texas the birthplace of George Bush Jr?

-No!

-It isn't.

Texas became a US state before California,

that was the correct answer.

Texas joined the Union in 1845,

California was later in 1850.

We were right, the largest state was Alaska.

-George Bush Jr was born in Connecticut. SUNETRA:

-What?

-But he was the Governor of Texas. MAGID:

-Tricky.

It was a tricky, tricky question.

Unfortunately, you didn't manage to get that right.

-There's still £500 up for grabs, we really want you to get that.

-OK.

-Here comes your next question.

-Let's do it.

-Ever read any Beatrix Potter as a kid?

-Not especially.

I have an inkling that she was born after Lewis Carroll.

Born after Lewis Carroll.

Panel, the debate starts now.

So, was she a Children's Laureate? That I have to try and work out.

-I reckon that Children's Laureate is a newer thing.

-Posthumously.

I don't think it's been going that long as an award.

So, narrowing it down, then.

First published novel was The Tale Of Squirrel Nutkin.

I've read some of these stories to my son and I can't remember.

Why didn't you do them in chronological order?

I should have thought!

There was a film about Beatrix Potter

called Miss Potter with Renee Zellweger

and I had to interview Renee Zellweger for that film

and watch the film.

But it was kind of... Yeah, it was set, like...

Hmm, I think it was set late 19th century.

I'm pretty sure Miss Potter was not set in the 18th...

I think it was later.

I think you're right, she was born after Lewis Carroll.

So, we're all veering towards Born after Lewis Carroll.

I'm confident with that one.

This could, obviously, be another birthplace of George Bush.

Don't say that! It could be.

-I feel this one is right.

-Lewis Carroll is older, right?

She was born after Lewis Carroll.

Right, so that's going to be our final decision.

So, the panel reckon that the true statement here is

that Beatrix Potter was born after Lewis Carroll.

So, Magid, I never thought we'd actually get there by this process.

However, Rick interviewed Renee Zellweger and we think

that's the reason why Beatrix Potter was born after Lewis Carroll.

I'm in agreement with the panel.

Like Rick said, I'm pretty sure that the Children's Laureate

is something really quite recent.

Again, wasn't she inspired to write children's books

by a rabbit that used to come into someone's garden and steal carrots?

That would suggest that her first novel was Peter Rabbit,

rather than The Tale Of Squirrel Nutkin.

On the basis of that, I'm going to go with A.

So, for £500 to get that prize pot up to 800,

was Beatrix Potter born after Lewis Carroll?

-It's the correct answer.

-Yay!

Big knowledge, well done!

Beatrix Potter was born in 1866,

Carol was born in 1832.

How very dare you!

-The first published book was...

-Peter Rabbit.

Was The Tale Of Peter Rabbit, which she published herself.

Rick was right, the Children's Laureate position

-was created in...?

-1999.

-1999, so, very well done.

-Well played, Magid. You're up to £800.

-Great.

-Fantastic. Thank you.

-Very nice.

There's just one question that stands between you and that money.

That is today's Final Debate, Magid. You will face one question.

That question has six possible answers.

Only three of those are correct.

In order to win the money,

you need to give me all three correct answers.

As always, you will not be playing alone,

but as this is our Final Debate,

we're going to make life a little bit tricky

as you can only access one celebrity from the panel.

You and your celebrity will have 45 seconds to debate the question.

So, based on today's performances,

who would you like to join you on the Final Debate?

This is a tricky one.

I think Sunetra's been really consistent.

-Rick, he's got his Cambridge degree, you know.

-Hmm.

I don't know, but I went to Oxford and I've...

Haven't really done very well, so it doesn't really stand for much.

I think I'm going to go with Sunetra.

OK, Sunetra, would you join us for the Final Debate?

OK, Sunetra, Magid has chosen you for our Final Debate.

-You are looking confident.

-I feel so honoured, I do.

And I just don't want to let him down because he's been super bright,

so fingers crossed.

OK, because it is our Final Debate, Magid,

we're going to give you the choice of two categories.

What do you fancy from these?

Right. I have zero sport knowledge.

Sunetra?

So, then we go with Food and Drink, because we both eat food

-and we both drink.

-Yeah!

-There we go.

-OK, Magid, we're going for Food and Drink.

-Yep.

Let's lock it in.

For £800 with 45 seconds on the clock,

here comes today's Final Debate question.

Best of luck.

We need

three correct answers, Magid, for the money.

So, for the final time today, your debate starts now.

-Let's go, Waldorf salad?

-OK.

-New York?

Yeah, peach Melba is named after Nellie Melba, an opera singer,

so that's a person, not a place.

-Wiener schnitzel - Vienna is a place.

-Austria.

-So that is one.

-I was going to say that. Definitely.

There's no such thing as a vindaloo, as we know, it's a made-up dish.

OK, so it's not vindaloo.

So, we've got Vienna and then I'm thinking Waldorf...

-Waldorf salad is New York?

-Waldorf is a place,

it is a hotel, but is it a...?

Well, it's a specific place,

the Waldorf Hotel created the Waldorf salad, maybe?

But it might be a Waldorf person.

Mr Waldorf.

I would veer more towards what you're saying.

My gut instinct also says puttanesca is Italy and Tangiers, tangerine.

-Oh, what do you want to go with?

-Got to stop you there, Sunetra.

Time up, Magid. We need three answers, please.

OK, so Wiener schnitzel definitely,

because that's Vienna.

Waldorf salad, the Waldorf Hotel

in New York is a specific place.

-Tangerine.

-Tangerine?

-Yeah.

Three good answers.

Prize pot of £800

up for grabs, Magid,

we're going to

wish you all the best.

We need all three to be correct

in order for you to walk away with the cash.

Here we go. First up, you said...

Wiener schnitzel.

Is Wiener schnitzel a place that a food has taken its name from?

-Wiener schnitzel is correct.

-Well done.

Next up, with the help of Sunetra,

who was quietly confident on this one, you went for Waldorf salad.

To keep us on track for the £800,

is the Waldorf salad a correct answer?

-It is correct.

-Great, great!

And so, it all comes down to this.

It was between puttanesca, in your mind,

which you think was in Italy.

You plumped for tangerine.

If that is the correct answer, you leave with £800.

If it isn't, I'm afraid you go home with nothing.

Is tangerine, for £800, the correct answer?

Hooray!

Congratulations, well played, Magid. Well done, Sunetra.

Very well played.

Waldorf salad, you were right,

it is named after the Waldorf Astoria Hotel in New York.

Wiener schnitzel is named after Vienna.

Tangerine, of course, after Tangiers.

Well done, three correct answers, well played.

-£800, congratulations.

-Thank you very much.

Very well played, very well worked out.

And that is it from Debatable.

There's just enough time

for me to thank our fantastic panel.

Sunetra Sarker, well done, Carol Kirkwood and Rick Edwards.

I hope you've enjoyed watching.

We will see you next time for more heated debates.

For now, it's goodbye from me.