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-Each of us has a story to tell. | 0:00:25 | 0:00:28 | |
-As an author and reporter, -I've travelled the world... | 0:00:29 | 0:00:33 | |
-..writing all kinds of stories. | 0:00:34 | 0:00:36 | |
-Recently, -whilst visiting South Korea... | 0:00:39 | 0:00:41 | |
-..I came across one which awoke -something deep and personal in me. | 0:00:42 | 0:00:46 | |
-This was a story full of tragedy... | 0:00:53 | 0:00:57 | |
-..conflict, adventure and love. | 0:00:57 | 0:01:00 | |
-Its hero -was a young missionary from Wales... | 0:01:03 | 0:01:06 | |
-..who came to this country in 1865. | 0:01:06 | 0:01:09 | |
-With nothing -but a Bible in his hand... | 0:01:12 | 0:01:15 | |
-..he sacrificed his young life, -and as a result... | 0:01:15 | 0:01:18 | |
-..the religion -of an entire nation was transformed. | 0:01:18 | 0:01:22 | |
-It's unlikely that you've heard -of this passionate man. | 0:01:36 | 0:01:40 | |
-But today, in South Korea... | 0:01:41 | 0:01:43 | |
-..almost everyone knows his name. | 0:01:43 | 0:01:46 | |
-This is the story and influence... | 0:01:49 | 0:01:51 | |
-..of the missionary -Robert Jermain Thomas. | 0:01:51 | 0:01:55 | |
-When I first began researching -Robert Jermain Thomas' story... | 0:02:06 | 0:02:10 | |
-..it became obvious that -it was a story about true faith. | 0:02:10 | 0:02:15 | |
-In order to better understand -what propelled this young man... | 0:02:18 | 0:02:23 | |
-..I had to study -my own relationship... | 0:02:23 | 0:02:26 | |
-..with religion and faith... | 0:02:26 | 0:02:29 | |
-..and take not only a -geographical and cultural journey... | 0:02:29 | 0:02:33 | |
-..but also a spiritual one. | 0:02:34 | 0:02:36 | |
-I began the journey -in Libanus Chapel. | 0:02:44 | 0:02:47 | |
-Like Robert, I attended chapel three -times on a Sunday with my mother. | 0:03:03 | 0:03:08 | |
-This is where my mother sat. | 0:03:09 | 0:03:11 | |
-She hadn't received -much of an education. | 0:03:12 | 0:03:17 | |
-She'd come here and be completely -happy sitting in this seat. | 0:03:17 | 0:03:21 | |
-I remember people asking her -about her faith... | 0:03:21 | 0:03:25 | |
-..and she'd say, "I believe." | 0:03:26 | 0:03:28 | |
-It was a simple response. | 0:03:28 | 0:03:30 | |
-It was as if a candle -had been lit inside her. | 0:03:30 | 0:03:34 | |
-Although it was something -beyond my comprehension... | 0:03:34 | 0:03:37 | |
-..I'd still come and sit beside her. | 0:03:38 | 0:03:41 | |
-That's why Robert Jermain, -who'd found God years ago... | 0:03:42 | 0:03:45 | |
-..had discovered faith and kept it. | 0:03:46 | 0:03:49 | |
-What I've failed to do is keep it. | 0:03:49 | 0:03:52 | |
-When I was his age, -a 10-year-old boy... | 0:03:52 | 0:03:55 | |
-..I'd say, "Yes, I have faith. -I believe in Jesus Christ." | 0:03:56 | 0:04:00 | |
-Later on, -other things get in the way. | 0:04:00 | 0:04:04 | |
-Life gets in the way. | 0:04:04 | 0:04:06 | |
-The hustle and bustle of life. | 0:04:06 | 0:04:08 | |
-Few attend this chapel nowadays. | 0:04:10 | 0:04:13 | |
-The same is true of chapels -all over Wales. | 0:04:13 | 0:04:16 | |
-Robert Jermain's -first experience of worship... | 0:04:27 | 0:04:31 | |
-..was at this small, simple chapel -in the village of Llanover... | 0:04:31 | 0:04:36 | |
-..in Monmouthshire. | 0:04:36 | 0:04:38 | |
-It's remarkable to think -that a country... | 0:04:46 | 0:04:49 | |
-..that was at one time -predominantly Christian... | 0:04:49 | 0:04:52 | |
-..and exported missionaries -as frequently as we exported coal... | 0:04:53 | 0:04:58 | |
-..has lost its faith so quickly. | 0:04:58 | 0:05:00 | |
-Robert wasn't raised -in a world of television and cinema. | 0:05:04 | 0:05:08 | |
-This was the cinema back then. | 0:05:08 | 0:05:10 | |
-This was cinemascope. | 0:05:11 | 0:05:13 | |
-If you widened the imagination... | 0:05:13 | 0:05:16 | |
-..you saw the desert, you saw -the Tabernacle and the prophets. | 0:05:16 | 0:05:20 | |
-You saw all these things. | 0:05:20 | 0:05:23 | |
-The man up there, his father, -was a formidable storyteller... | 0:05:23 | 0:05:27 | |
-..as were other lay preachers... | 0:05:27 | 0:05:30 | |
-..and he narrated -these incredible stories. | 0:05:30 | 0:05:33 | |
-He also did more than that. | 0:05:34 | 0:05:36 | |
-Not only did he convey a message -but he opened up the world. | 0:05:36 | 0:05:40 | |
-He started imagining the world as -somewhere bigger than just Llanover. | 0:05:41 | 0:05:46 | |
-The seed of religion was planted... | 0:05:46 | 0:05:49 | |
-..and his faith became deep rooted. | 0:05:49 | 0:05:52 | |
-In the end, it was that -which flourished and bore fruit... | 0:05:52 | 0:05:56 | |
-..thousands of miles away in Korea. | 0:05:57 | 0:05:59 | |
-There was no way of evading -God's influence or his father's. | 0:06:01 | 0:06:06 | |
-Even his home was a stone's throw -away from the pulpit. | 0:06:11 | 0:06:16 | |
-Its current owners, -Dr Steven Price... | 0:06:19 | 0:06:22 | |
-..and his wife, Dr Stella Price, -were led to the chapel... | 0:06:22 | 0:06:26 | |
-..and this house by sheer luck. | 0:06:27 | 0:06:29 | |
-Robert Jermain's -inspirational story... | 0:06:30 | 0:06:33 | |
-..became an obsession for them. | 0:06:33 | 0:06:35 | |
-What was it that made him... | 0:06:36 | 0:06:39 | |
-..such a missionary spirit? | 0:06:39 | 0:06:41 | |
-What gave him that missionary zeal? | 0:06:41 | 0:06:44 | |
-If you look at his father's life. | 0:06:44 | 0:06:47 | |
-His father -had been really touched by... | 0:06:47 | 0:06:50 | |
-..if you like, the revivals -of the mid-19th century. | 0:06:50 | 0:06:55 | |
-If you look at his life, -he was steeped in a sense of... | 0:06:56 | 0:06:59 | |
-..what the Christian gospel -was doing to Wales. | 0:06:59 | 0:07:02 | |
-His first sermon at 17 -was Hebrews 13, verse eight. | 0:07:03 | 0:07:07 | |
-"Jesus Christ, -the same yesterday, today, forever." | 0:07:07 | 0:07:10 | |
-His dad welcomed him -into the ministry. | 0:07:11 | 0:07:13 | |
-He induction was at that age, then -he went off to New College London. | 0:07:14 | 0:07:18 | |
-He was a very bright guy, -gifted in language. | 0:07:18 | 0:07:21 | |
-He said to the people there, "I want -to be a missionary to the Far East." | 0:07:21 | 0:07:26 | |
-His young wife, who he met while -teaching in Northamptonshire... | 0:07:26 | 0:07:31 | |
-..was from a very wealthy family. | 0:07:31 | 0:07:33 | |
-Passionately in love... | 0:07:34 | 0:07:35 | |
-..with this feisty, -ambitious-for-the-gospel Welshman. | 0:07:36 | 0:07:39 | |
-They set off -on this journey to China. | 0:07:40 | 0:07:42 | |
-For us, to sit in his home, -to have renovated the home... | 0:07:42 | 0:07:46 | |
-..to welcome hundreds -of the fruit of his mission... | 0:07:47 | 0:07:50 | |
-..the Koreans that come, -now a Korean in the church here... | 0:07:50 | 0:07:54 | |
-..it's a cycle where -they're coming back and saying... | 0:07:54 | 0:07:58 | |
-.."You brought us light, -you brought us the gospel. | 0:07:58 | 0:08:00 | |
-"You brought us hope." It's a -tremendous exciting walk, really... | 0:08:01 | 0:08:06 | |
-..to follow -in these footsteps of Thomas. | 0:08:06 | 0:08:09 | |
-Not far from Libanus Chapel... | 0:08:19 | 0:08:21 | |
-..are a group of -enthusiastic young missionaries... | 0:08:21 | 0:08:24 | |
-..who have come to Wales as a direct -result of Robert Jermain's story. | 0:08:25 | 0:08:31 | |
-One of them is Cheol Joong Kim... | 0:08:31 | 0:08:34 | |
-..who has the same spiritual fire -as Robert Jermain had in his youth. | 0:08:35 | 0:08:40 | |
-He arrived in Korea in 1866. | 0:08:40 | 0:08:44 | |
-There's a difference of opinion -amongst historians about Thomas. | 0:08:44 | 0:08:49 | |
-For Christians, he's a great hero. | 0:08:50 | 0:08:54 | |
-He's the most important missionary -and is central to our history. | 0:08:54 | 0:08:59 | |
-It's worth studying more about -the life of Thomas the missionary. | 0:09:00 | 0:09:07 | |
-I believe Robert Jermain Thomas -is one of my ancestors. | 0:09:14 | 0:09:20 | |
-I obviously don't belong to him... | 0:09:20 | 0:09:24 | |
-..but we share -the same faith in Jesus Christ. | 0:09:24 | 0:09:28 | |
-It is through him -that I've come to know God better. | 0:09:28 | 0:09:33 | |
-For me, -Thomas is like a spiritual father. | 0:09:33 | 0:09:40 | |
-Do you feel it? | 0:09:42 | 0:09:45 | |
-He was too young -to face such a tragic situation. | 0:09:46 | 0:09:50 | |
-How could he -keep his faith as a Christian? | 0:09:51 | 0:09:55 | |
-I admire -Robert Jermain Thomas' faith. | 0:10:04 | 0:10:10 | |
-Even now, I'm emotional -when I think about his story. | 0:10:12 | 0:10:16 | |
-Though Thomas died -more than 100 years ago... | 0:10:18 | 0:10:22 | |
-..we can still learn from him. | 0:10:22 | 0:10:26 | |
-One day I was praying... | 0:10:28 | 0:10:30 | |
-..and something -very strange happened to me. | 0:10:31 | 0:10:37 | |
-I'm not someone -who sees things like ghosts... | 0:10:38 | 0:10:44 | |
-..but that day, -Thomas appeared before me. | 0:10:45 | 0:10:50 | |
-He stared at me. -There was sadness in his eyes. | 0:10:54 | 0:10:57 | |
-Even now, when I think about it, -it brings a tear to my eye. | 0:10:58 | 0:11:02 | |
-He said, "Would you work -in the name of Christ for me?" | 0:11:03 | 0:11:12 | |
-He looked so heartbroken. | 0:11:13 | 0:11:16 | |
-I couldn't refuse... | 0:11:16 | 0:11:19 | |
-..because he looked so sad. | 0:11:19 | 0:11:25 | |
-I remember Robert Jermain Thomas. | 0:11:25 | 0:11:27 | |
-He is our hero -and we all want to be like him. | 0:11:28 | 0:11:31 | |
-Thank you. | 0:11:31 | 0:11:33 | |
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-THEY SING HYMN IN KOREAN | 0:11:40 | 0:11:42 | |
-Why has the life of one man, -who died a century and a half ago... | 0:12:01 | 0:12:06 | |
-..had such an influence... | 0:12:06 | 0:12:08 | |
-..on so many people -on the other side of the world? | 0:12:09 | 0:12:12 | |
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-The population of South Korea -is approximately 50 million. | 0:12:31 | 0:12:35 | |
-It is a country -half the size of England. | 0:12:36 | 0:12:39 | |
-Approximately 25 million people... | 0:12:41 | 0:12:44 | |
-..live in Seoul, the capital city. | 0:12:44 | 0:12:46 | |
-This is home to technological -giants like Samsung and LG... | 0:12:47 | 0:12:53 | |
-..and car manufacturers -Hyundai and Kia. | 0:12:55 | 0:12:58 | |
-It's a country full of contrasts. | 0:13:00 | 0:13:03 | |
-Some cultural, some social... | 0:13:03 | 0:13:06 | |
-..and some religious. | 0:13:06 | 0:13:08 | |
-The people are open and welcoming. | 0:13:16 | 0:13:20 | |
-However, a century and a half ago... | 0:13:20 | 0:13:23 | |
-..it was a closed country that posed -many dangers for outsiders. | 0:13:23 | 0:13:29 | |
-MUSIC AND DRUMBEAT | 0:13:32 | 0:13:34 | |
-This was the world -that awaited Robert Jermain. | 0:13:36 | 0:13:40 | |
-As I walk towards the king's palace -in the heart of Seoul... | 0:14:00 | 0:14:04 | |
-..I begin to understand the kind -of place Korea was in Thomas' day. | 0:14:05 | 0:14:10 | |
-This was -the monarchy's stronghold... | 0:14:12 | 0:14:15 | |
-..and a symbol -of its power over its subjects. | 0:14:15 | 0:14:18 | |
-When the palace was built... | 0:14:20 | 0:14:22 | |
-..the Korean people -knew the world was changing. | 0:14:23 | 0:14:26 | |
-France and Britain -were spreading eastwards... | 0:14:26 | 0:14:29 | |
-..and Japan -was making friends with the West. | 0:14:30 | 0:14:33 | |
-Korea didn't want that -because King Wang Geon... | 0:14:34 | 0:14:38 | |
-..was a follower of Confucius... | 0:14:38 | 0:14:41 | |
-..who believed business -and borrowing money was anathema. | 0:14:41 | 0:14:47 | |
-He prohibited business... | 0:14:47 | 0:14:49 | |
-..and forbade -anyone in this kingdom... | 0:14:50 | 0:14:52 | |
-..from having any ties -with the outside world. | 0:14:53 | 0:14:56 | |
-It was a time when people -were describing Korea... | 0:14:56 | 0:15:00 | |
-..as a hermit kingdom... | 0:15:00 | 0:15:03 | |
-..where the outside world -was forbidden. | 0:15:03 | 0:15:06 | |
-Anyone who had contact with it -was executed. | 0:15:06 | 0:15:09 | |
-That's how serious they were... | 0:15:09 | 0:15:12 | |
-..about keeping -the outside world separate. | 0:15:13 | 0:15:15 | |
-This new world -emerging from the West... | 0:15:21 | 0:15:23 | |
-..had nothing to do with -agriculture, it was about industry. | 0:15:24 | 0:15:28 | |
-Hand in hand -with the missionaries... | 0:15:28 | 0:15:31 | |
-..who came here -with a new ideology... | 0:15:31 | 0:15:34 | |
-..and the message that this new -faith was better than the old one... | 0:15:34 | 0:15:39 | |
-..came other things -such as the railways. | 0:15:39 | 0:15:42 | |
-Every new empire... | 0:15:42 | 0:15:44 | |
-..spread not only -the message of the gospel... | 0:15:44 | 0:15:48 | |
-..but a business message too. | 0:15:49 | 0:15:51 | |
-One tour guide showing visitors like -me around the palace is Choonsun Yi. | 0:15:53 | 0:15:59 | |
-She appreciates the old culture -and understands why people... | 0:16:00 | 0:16:04 | |
-..were so cautious -of the new religion. | 0:16:04 | 0:16:07 | |
-When Roberts Jermain Thomas -was arriving in Korea... | 0:16:09 | 0:16:13 | |
-..Korea -didn't want to talk to the world. | 0:16:13 | 0:16:16 | |
-If you spoke to a foreigner, -you could be executed. | 0:16:16 | 0:16:18 | |
-There were new ideas from outside. | 0:16:19 | 0:16:21 | |
-Things like Christianity -and new forms of doing trade. | 0:16:21 | 0:16:25 | |
-Was Korea scared -of the outside world? | 0:16:25 | 0:16:28 | |
-At the time, Korea -was suspicious of any outsiders. | 0:16:28 | 0:16:35 | |
-Of course, some wanted to know more -about these new foreign customs... | 0:16:35 | 0:16:44 | |
-..but on the whole, the majority -feared this foreign culture. | 0:16:44 | 0:16:50 | |
-This period was -also about respecting ancestors. | 0:16:53 | 0:16:57 | |
-Some people on the outside... | 0:16:57 | 0:17:00 | |
-..thought this was almost like -worshipping ancestors. | 0:17:00 | 0:17:03 | |
-Some Catholic missionaries accepted -the religion of the local people... | 0:17:04 | 0:17:10 | |
-..but others were intent on -converting them to Christianity. | 0:17:10 | 0:17:17 | |
-For the most extreme among them, the -Koreans believed in the wrong God. | 0:17:17 | 0:17:24 | |
-Supported by the Vatican, the aim -was to change the country's faith. | 0:17:25 | 0:17:31 | |
-Many objected to this -and missionaries were persecuted. | 0:17:31 | 0:17:36 | |
-Religion and politics -often go hand in hand. | 0:17:44 | 0:17:48 | |
-Introducing Christianity -was the first step... | 0:17:51 | 0:17:54 | |
-..in order -to pave the way for the dictators. | 0:17:54 | 0:17:58 | |
-When the old regime -clashed with the new one... | 0:18:01 | 0:18:05 | |
-..bloodshed was inevitable. | 0:18:06 | 0:18:09 | |
-Where religion is introduced, -suffering is sure to follow. | 0:18:13 | 0:18:18 | |
-The country's early Christians -were widely persecuted. | 0:18:28 | 0:18:33 | |
-900 Catholics were executed -in one day by the king's soldiers. | 0:18:36 | 0:18:41 | |
-THEY PRAY IN KOREAN | 0:18:41 | 0:18:43 | |
-A massacre -that is still remembered today... | 0:18:43 | 0:18:46 | |
-..by Korea's Catholic community. | 0:18:47 | 0:18:49 | |
-Robert Jermain and his young wife, -Caroline Godfrey... | 0:19:02 | 0:19:06 | |
-..arrived -in Shanghai Harbour in 1863. | 0:19:07 | 0:19:10 | |
-They were both -in their early twenties... | 0:19:13 | 0:19:16 | |
-..in a country whose capital -was foreign and dangerous. | 0:19:17 | 0:19:20 | |
-But life was full of excitement -and expectation. | 0:19:21 | 0:19:24 | |
-Soon, Caroline fell pregnant -and Robert went in search... | 0:19:25 | 0:19:30 | |
-..of a new home for his family -in the Chefoo region... | 0:19:30 | 0:19:34 | |
-..more than 600 miles away. | 0:19:34 | 0:19:36 | |
-Suddenly, -Caroline fell seriously ill. | 0:19:47 | 0:19:52 | |
-She, -along with her unborn baby, died. | 0:19:57 | 0:20:00 | |
-He was heartbroken. | 0:20:04 | 0:20:06 | |
-But he continued -his missionary work... | 0:20:11 | 0:20:14 | |
-..burying the tragedy -deep in his soul. | 0:20:14 | 0:20:17 | |
-He sailed to Korea -with a Bible in his hand. | 0:20:20 | 0:20:24 | |
-I went to meet someone who had -a direct link with the story. | 0:20:34 | 0:20:38 | |
-Author Heisik Oh. | 0:20:39 | 0:20:41 | |
-Her grandfather -had met Robert Jermain Thomas. | 0:20:42 | 0:20:45 | |
-She grew up, having heard all about -the young man from Llanover. | 0:20:45 | 0:20:50 | |
-Lovely to meet you. | 0:20:52 | 0:20:54 | |
-You were just a little girl... | 0:20:55 | 0:20:56 | |
-..when you heard the story -of Robert Jermain Thomas. | 0:20:57 | 0:21:00 | |
-My father had written several books -about Robert Jermain Thomas. | 0:21:05 | 0:21:11 | |
-Aged seven, I read a children's book -about the missionary from Wales. | 0:21:12 | 0:21:17 | |
-Thomas learnt the Korean language -before arriving in September 1865. | 0:21:24 | 0:21:33 | |
-It would've been -a long and dangerous journey... | 0:21:34 | 0:21:38 | |
-..to the front line -of the Christian war. | 0:21:38 | 0:21:41 | |
-The SS Sherman was a warship -which also carried goods... | 0:21:44 | 0:21:48 | |
-..to a country -where trading was illegal. | 0:21:49 | 0:21:52 | |
-Undoubtedly -the Koreans would've thought... | 0:21:56 | 0:22:00 | |
-..that soldiers were on board, -ready to attack. | 0:22:00 | 0:22:03 | |
-On board were 17 passengers, -16 of whom were Chinese merchants. | 0:22:05 | 0:22:10 | |
-It's believed Thomas carried out -missionary work on board. | 0:22:10 | 0:22:14 | |
-But there was -no welcome for him in Korea. | 0:22:15 | 0:22:18 | |
-King Gojong had forbidden -any ideas from overseas. | 0:22:18 | 0:22:25 | |
-As Thomas' vessel approached the -Taedong, the Korean Army attacked. | 0:22:25 | 0:22:30 | |
-The ship ran aground on the -sandbanks due to the low tide... | 0:22:30 | 0:22:37 | |
-..and the Korean soldiers placed -straw around it and set it alight. | 0:22:37 | 0:22:44 | |
-The Chinese merchants tried to -escape but each of them was killed. | 0:22:44 | 0:22:50 | |
-The ship was burnt to a cinder, -leaving only Thomas and his gospel. | 0:22:50 | 0:23:01 | |
-On the riverbank, Thomas came -face to face with the soldiers. | 0:23:09 | 0:23:23 | |
-On bended knee, he prayed to God -and handed his Bible to a soldier... | 0:23:25 | 0:23:32 | |
-..and said, "Believe in Christ -and you will be saved." | 0:23:32 | 0:23:44 | |
-That day, it's believed -the soldier was converted. | 0:23:44 | 0:23:48 | |
-However, Thomas was killed -when he was beheaded. | 0:23:49 | 0:23:54 | |
-Imagine how many people -witnessed this. | 0:24:04 | 0:24:06 | |
-One of them was my grandfather. | 0:24:06 | 0:24:09 | |
-On hearing Thomas preach the gospel -that day, many were converted. | 0:24:09 | 0:24:13 | |
-Thomas died at the tender age of 27, -which was far too young. | 0:24:14 | 0:24:22 | |
-But imagine it, even the soldier -who killed Thomas turned to Christ. | 0:24:24 | 0:24:32 | |
-I'm grateful to Thomas for -sacrificing himself for the gospel. | 0:24:32 | 0:24:40 | |
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-The religion of an entire nation -was transformed... | 0:24:57 | 0:25:01 | |
-..as the direct result... | 0:25:01 | 0:25:03 | |
-..of a young missionary from Wales -being executed. | 0:25:03 | 0:25:07 | |
-The story of -Robert Jermain Thomas' sacrifice... | 0:25:10 | 0:25:14 | |
-..was heard throughout Korea. | 0:25:14 | 0:25:16 | |
-Shortly afterwards, -a church was established... | 0:25:17 | 0:25:21 | |
-..at the site where he died. | 0:25:21 | 0:25:24 | |
-Thousands of Koreans... | 0:25:27 | 0:25:29 | |
-..were converted to Christianity. | 0:25:29 | 0:25:32 | |
-These days, there are millions -of Christians in South Korea... | 0:25:33 | 0:25:38 | |
-..who worship in thousands of large -churches known as megachurches. | 0:25:39 | 0:25:44 | |
-One of them is SaRang Church... | 0:25:49 | 0:25:52 | |
-..in the Gangnam district of Seoul. | 0:25:52 | 0:25:55 | |
-The building looks more like -the headquarters of Samsung or LG... | 0:25:59 | 0:26:03 | |
-..than a place of worship. | 0:26:03 | 0:26:05 | |
-The person responsible -for this huge corporation... | 0:26:08 | 0:26:12 | |
-..is Pastor Oh. | 0:26:12 | 0:26:14 | |
-Thank you very much -for agreeing to this interview. | 0:26:15 | 0:26:18 | |
-Could you tell me -about the history of the church? | 0:26:19 | 0:26:22 | |
-The church was established 36 -years ago by nine people in Gangnam. | 0:26:22 | 0:26:31 | |
-Nowadays, the church -has more than 100,000 members. | 0:26:31 | 0:26:36 | |
-Almost half of those -attend services on a Sunday. | 0:26:36 | 0:26:40 | |
-So it was essential -to buy this church. | 0:26:41 | 0:26:44 | |
-This church -cost 200 million to build. | 0:26:44 | 0:26:49 | |
-There are 300 full-time staff, -including 40 ministers. | 0:26:49 | 0:27:00 | |
-What is your role in the church? | 0:27:00 | 0:27:03 | |
-I'm a senior pastor. | 0:27:03 | 0:27:06 | |
-Of course, Jesus Christ -is the head of the Church. | 0:27:06 | 0:27:15 | |
-By doing the Church's -admin work, HR and finance... | 0:27:15 | 0:27:23 | |
-..I'm helping people -to become Christ's disciples. | 0:27:23 | 0:27:33 | |
-The church's main hall has -the capacity to hold 7,000 people. | 0:27:34 | 0:27:42 | |
-This church -is the only one in the world... | 0:27:43 | 0:27:46 | |
-..with an underground -train station. | 0:27:46 | 0:27:49 | |
-Our building is saying that Jesus -Christ's love embraces everyone. | 0:27:50 | 0:28:03 | |
-The first thing you notice... | 0:28:09 | 0:28:11 | |
-..is the statistics, if you like. | 0:28:12 | 0:28:14 | |
-This place is twice the size of the -Millennium Centre's main theatre. | 0:28:14 | 0:28:19 | |
-4,000 people at a time attend -services five or six times a day. | 0:28:19 | 0:28:24 | |
-An entire town turns up to worship. | 0:28:24 | 0:28:27 | |
-We're also in the home -of companies like Samsung... | 0:28:27 | 0:28:31 | |
-..so technology is widely used. | 0:28:31 | 0:28:34 | |
-You could say -it's a faith factory with a stage. | 0:28:35 | 0:28:38 | |
-The set has been adeptly designed. | 0:28:38 | 0:28:40 | |
-But the actors haven't arrived yet. | 0:28:41 | 0:28:43 | |
-I don't know -what the play will be about. | 0:28:43 | 0:28:47 | |
-The place lends itself well... | 0:28:48 | 0:28:52 | |
-..to a dramatic production. | 0:28:52 | 0:28:55 | |
-THEY SING IN KOREAN | 0:28:56 | 0:28:59 | |
-THEY PRAY IN UNISON | 0:29:10 | 0:29:12 | |
-The service will be broadcast -not only to people in North Korea... | 0:29:27 | 0:29:32 | |
-..but worldwide. | 0:29:33 | 0:29:35 | |
-The leading man -has reached the stage. | 0:29:35 | 0:29:38 | |
-HE SPEAKS KOREAN | 0:29:38 | 0:29:40 | |
-His gentle, soothing voice... | 0:29:48 | 0:29:51 | |
-..is like a hypnotic drug... | 0:29:51 | 0:29:53 | |
-..which gives him a unique power... | 0:29:53 | 0:29:56 | |
-..over the congregation. | 0:29:56 | 0:29:58 | |
-THEY SING IN UNISON | 0:30:10 | 0:30:12 | |
-Like a 21st-century -John the Baptist... | 0:31:05 | 0:31:09 | |
-..hundreds come to him every week... | 0:31:09 | 0:31:12 | |
-..to be baptized -and accepted into the Church. | 0:31:12 | 0:31:15 | |
-As thousands -leave the day's first service... | 0:31:46 | 0:31:50 | |
-..we must bear in mind -that this began... | 0:31:50 | 0:31:53 | |
-..not with Pastor Oh... | 0:31:53 | 0:31:56 | |
-..but with the passion and vision... | 0:31:56 | 0:31:58 | |
-..of one young missionary -from rural Wales. | 0:31:59 | 0:32:02 | |
-Robert Jermain Thomas was the first -missionary martyr in Korea. | 0:32:04 | 0:32:11 | |
-This fact is crucial. | 0:32:12 | 0:32:14 | |
-It is -because of Thomas' sacrifice... | 0:32:17 | 0:32:20 | |
-..that there are -50,000 churches in Korea today. | 0:32:20 | 0:32:25 | |
-I heard about his story -when I was a young boy. | 0:32:25 | 0:32:29 | |
-Now I'm a pastor, ready to offer -myself as a sacrifice to God... | 0:32:30 | 0:32:36 | |
-..by learning about Thomas' life. | 0:32:37 | 0:32:39 | |
-For Korea's Christians, -Wales is a holy country. | 0:32:42 | 0:32:46 | |
-In the bowels -of this enormous building... | 0:32:46 | 0:32:49 | |
-..is a small chapel -dedicated to Robert Jermain... | 0:32:49 | 0:32:53 | |
-..with a pulpit which has come -all the way from Wales. | 0:32:53 | 0:32:56 | |
-There is also -a room of Welsh artefacts... | 0:32:57 | 0:32:59 | |
-..including -the novels of T Llew Jones... | 0:33:00 | 0:33:03 | |
-..a miner's lamp, love spoons... | 0:33:04 | 0:33:07 | |
-..and a print of Salem, of course. | 0:33:08 | 0:33:10 | |
-We've a closer affinity with Wales -than with England and Scotland. | 0:33:11 | 0:33:17 | |
-Wales was famous for its steel -and ship-building industries. | 0:33:18 | 0:33:24 | |
-But now, it's Korea which is -world famous for those industries. | 0:33:24 | 0:33:32 | |
-In that sense, -we have much to thank Wales for. | 0:33:32 | 0:33:46 | |
-I visited Wales four times -between 1994 and 2012. | 0:33:46 | 0:33:54 | |
-It hasn't changed much -in comparison with our country. | 0:33:54 | 0:33:59 | |
-Because of that, -I've been praying for Wales. | 0:33:59 | 0:34:04 | |
-As several churches around the world -work together to help Wales... | 0:34:05 | 0:34:10 | |
-..I believe the nation -is destined for a new revival. | 0:34:10 | 0:34:20 | |
-I've always believed material -wealth follows spiritual wealth. | 0:34:20 | 0:34:29 | |
-That is to say, if the churches -of Wales were developed... | 0:34:29 | 0:34:37 | |
-..then the country's economy -would prosper too. | 0:34:37 | 0:34:42 | |
-By sharing our wealth with others, -I believe we receive God's blessing. | 0:34:43 | 0:34:53 | |
-# Is our God | 0:34:53 | 0:34:56 | |
-Name above all names! | 0:34:56 | 0:34:58 | |
-# Name above all names | 0:35:02 | 0:35:08 | |
-# Worthy of all praise | 0:35:08 | 0:35:14 | |
-# My heart will sing | 0:35:15 | 0:35:18 | |
-# How great is our God # | 0:35:18 | 0:35:22 | |
-CONTINUES IN KOREAN | 0:35:22 | 0:35:24 | |
-I'm not sure how I feel about -my experiences at SaRang Church. | 0:35:48 | 0:35:52 | |
-It was a world away... | 0:35:56 | 0:35:58 | |
-..from the worship -I experienced as a child. | 0:35:59 | 0:36:02 | |
-The Church is growing in Korea... | 0:36:06 | 0:36:09 | |
-..rather than dying, -as it is in Wales. | 0:36:09 | 0:36:12 | |
-But for me, -there's something missing. | 0:36:28 | 0:36:31 | |
-I'm not sure what exactly. | 0:36:31 | 0:36:33 | |
-I'll have to follow -a different path. | 0:36:34 | 0:36:36 | |
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-After experiencing -SaRang Church... | 0:36:58 | 0:37:01 | |
-..I started thinking about -the impact Robert Jermain had... | 0:37:02 | 0:37:06 | |
-..along with other Christian -missionaries, on the country. | 0:37:06 | 0:37:11 | |
-Today, South Korea is one of the -world's most prosperous countries. | 0:37:12 | 0:37:17 | |
-Within the past decade, business -and the economy have soared... | 0:37:19 | 0:37:24 | |
-..to an astonishing level here. | 0:37:24 | 0:37:27 | |
-The country and its population have -accepted capitalism unconditionally. | 0:37:32 | 0:37:38 | |
-Similar to the United States... | 0:37:38 | 0:37:40 | |
-..the influence -of Evangelical Christianity... | 0:37:41 | 0:37:44 | |
-..has increased in recent years. | 0:37:45 | 0:37:47 | |
-Nowadays, -there's a cosy relationship... | 0:37:50 | 0:37:53 | |
-..between business and religion. | 0:37:53 | 0:37:55 | |
-It's difficult -to differentiate between them. | 0:37:56 | 0:37:59 | |
-Money rules. | 0:38:01 | 0:38:03 | |
-Christianity -can be sold like cheap jewellery. | 0:38:03 | 0:38:07 | |
-But despite its power -and influence... | 0:38:13 | 0:38:16 | |
-..Christians are in the minority. | 0:38:16 | 0:38:18 | |
-In the mountains above Seoul... | 0:38:20 | 0:38:22 | |
-..is a Buddhist temple... | 0:38:23 | 0:38:25 | |
-..which is more than 600 years old. | 0:38:25 | 0:38:28 | |
-Buddhism -is the country's main religion... | 0:38:33 | 0:38:36 | |
-..and it still plays an important -part in the lives of ordinary folk. | 0:38:36 | 0:38:40 | |
-The principal monk -is Ven Seonwoo. | 0:38:46 | 0:38:50 | |
-She chants twice a day in the simple -luxury of the temple's main hall. | 0:38:50 | 0:38:55 | |
-When did Buddhism arrive in Korea? | 0:39:09 | 0:39:12 | |
-Buddhism reached Korea -a long time ago. | 0:39:13 | 0:39:15 | |
-When it arrived, it was combined -with local religion - Shamanism. | 0:39:16 | 0:39:23 | |
-Because Buddhism -is such an open religion... | 0:39:23 | 0:39:28 | |
-..naturally it was welcomed -and accepted here in Korea. | 0:39:28 | 0:39:39 | |
-What is the relationship... | 0:39:39 | 0:39:41 | |
-..between Buddhism and Christianity -in this country? | 0:39:41 | 0:39:45 | |
-Nowadays, there is a mutual respect -between Christians and Buddhists. | 0:39:50 | 0:39:57 | |
-We help each other -and jointly attend important events. | 0:39:57 | 0:40:03 | |
-We acknowledge Jesus Christ -as Bodhisattva... | 0:40:04 | 0:40:08 | |
-..which is someone who's reached the -highest of state of enlightenment. | 0:40:08 | 0:40:14 | |
-THEY CHANT | 0:40:14 | 0:40:16 | |
-In my opinion, missionaries were -sent to conquer other countries. | 0:40:24 | 0:40:28 | |
-It has always been the case. | 0:40:29 | 0:40:31 | |
-Countries attacking each other to -spread their religion and culture. | 0:40:31 | 0:40:34 | |
-That's why wars happen. | 0:40:35 | 0:40:40 | |
-For example, Christianity -was used as the reason... | 0:40:41 | 0:40:46 | |
-..for the Wars of the Cross - -the Crusades. | 0:40:46 | 0:40:50 | |
-Religion was used as an excuse -for countries to win power. | 0:40:51 | 0:40:55 | |
-Historically, Buddhism is the only -religion not to have started a war. | 0:40:56 | 0:41:02 | |
-BELL TOLLS | 0:41:07 | 0:41:09 | |
-At half past four every morning... | 0:41:16 | 0:41:19 | |
-..one must get up to listen -to the big bell's chimes. | 0:41:19 | 0:41:23 | |
-It must chime 108 times. | 0:41:26 | 0:41:29 | |
-This is the equivalent -of the number of human sins... | 0:41:33 | 0:41:37 | |
-..on earth. | 0:41:37 | 0:41:39 | |
-I feel that this place of worship -closer resembles... | 0:41:57 | 0:42:01 | |
-..my experience of worship -back in Wales... | 0:42:01 | 0:42:04 | |
-..than the showmanship -of SaRang Church. | 0:42:05 | 0:42:08 | |
-THEY CHANT | 0:42:08 | 0:42:10 | |
-One of the most important things -about the temple is this place. | 0:42:25 | 0:42:30 | |
-It's a temple next to the main -temple that's been erected... | 0:42:31 | 0:42:35 | |
-..to acknowledge the presence -of other faiths. | 0:42:35 | 0:42:39 | |
-That respect... | 0:42:40 | 0:42:42 | |
-..is very different from -other brands of Christianity... | 0:42:42 | 0:42:46 | |
-..where you get people saying, "This -is the gospel. This is Christ." | 0:42:47 | 0:42:51 | |
-Missionaries were sent... | 0:42:51 | 0:42:54 | |
-..and they had to believe -that what they were doing was just. | 0:42:54 | 0:42:59 | |
-When your self-belief -is that certain... | 0:42:59 | 0:43:03 | |
-..sometimes you don't care... | 0:43:03 | 0:43:06 | |
-..about what -and who you're treading on... | 0:43:07 | 0:43:10 | |
-..in order to convey your message. | 0:43:10 | 0:43:14 | |
-There are hymns which, -to some extent, sully those... | 0:43:16 | 0:43:20 | |
-..who live in the Far East. | 0:43:21 | 0:43:25 | |
-"Little yellow children all around. | 0:43:25 | 0:43:29 | |
-"And no-one to talk about God." | 0:43:29 | 0:43:32 | |
-It suggests a wilderness of faith... | 0:43:32 | 0:43:36 | |
-..where they arrive and leave some -sort of vineyard to blossom there. | 0:43:36 | 0:43:41 | |
-But there was a vineyard, full of -colour and flowers, here already. | 0:43:41 | 0:43:47 | |
-THEY CHANT | 0:43:47 | 0:43:49 | |
-It was time to leave Seoul... | 0:44:07 | 0:44:09 | |
-..and South Korea -and return to Llanover... | 0:44:09 | 0:44:13 | |
-..to the simple Welsh chapel. | 0:44:13 | 0:44:16 | |
-# Jesus Christ | 0:44:30 | 0:44:35 | |
-# His son... # | 0:44:35 | 0:44:38 | |
-SINGING CONTINUES INDISTINCTLY | 0:44:38 | 0:44:42 | |
-Reverend Daniel Yoo -came to Hanover Chapel... | 0:44:44 | 0:44:47 | |
-..to rekindle the flames of faith -in Welsh people. | 0:44:47 | 0:44:51 | |
-This chapel is sacred to Korean -Christians, just like Jerusalem. | 0:45:06 | 0:45:13 | |
-For many people around the world, -Jerusalem is the holy land... | 0:45:14 | 0:45:19 | |
-..but to me, -Hanover Chapel is also holy land. | 0:45:19 | 0:45:25 | |
-Many people say that they have -had incredible experiences... | 0:45:26 | 0:45:33 | |
-..after visiting this sacred place. | 0:45:33 | 0:45:37 | |
-How is the mission working? | 0:45:38 | 0:45:40 | |
-How are things going -in terms of your mission here... | 0:45:40 | 0:45:44 | |
-..and how long -do you expect to be here? | 0:45:44 | 0:45:47 | |
-Our mission is to make -this chapel the focus... | 0:45:47 | 0:45:54 | |
-..for reviving the Church -throughout Wales. | 0:45:54 | 0:46:01 | |
-We will spread the word... | 0:46:01 | 0:46:04 | |
-..in order to encourage missionaries -to come to this place... | 0:46:04 | 0:46:09 | |
-..and follow the path -of Robert Jermain Thomas. | 0:46:10 | 0:46:15 | |
-Will the new missionaries -from Korea... | 0:46:38 | 0:46:40 | |
-..spark another revival in Wales... | 0:46:41 | 0:46:43 | |
-..by spreading the good news? | 0:46:43 | 0:46:47 | |
-The certainty of their faith -makes me think. | 0:46:49 | 0:46:52 | |
-Maybe we need -something deeper in our lives. | 0:46:54 | 0:46:58 | |
-Lifelong values -rather than capitalist ones... | 0:46:58 | 0:47:01 | |
-..like those possessed -by Robert Jermain Thomas... | 0:47:03 | 0:47:06 | |
-..over a century and a half ago. | 0:47:06 | 0:47:09 | |
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