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-"Arise, you oppressed of the earth | 0:00:32 | 0:00:35 | |
-"The starving throng is rising | 0:00:37 | 0:00:39 | |
-"The truth of the new life comes | 0:00:41 | 0:00:44 | |
-"To vanquish the mist of ages past." | 0:00:46 | 0:00:49 | |
-As a socialist, I hold a belief -about the country's resources. | 0:00:53 | 0:00:58 | |
-The land and the factories -should be for its people. | 0:00:58 | 0:01:02 | |
-All should be -at the nation's service. | 0:01:02 | 0:01:05 | |
-The poet Thomas Evan Nicholas -only lived here for ten years. | 0:01:11 | 0:01:16 | |
-He had come to the Swansea Valley -to be a minister in Glais. | 0:01:16 | 0:01:20 | |
-Even so, he is still referred to -as Niclas y Glais. | 0:01:22 | 0:01:27 | |
-He had been a minister -in Llandeilo for a year or so. | 0:01:28 | 0:01:32 | |
-After that, he moved -to the USA for two years. | 0:01:32 | 0:01:36 | |
-Then, one day, at Crymych fair... | 0:01:36 | 0:01:38 | |
-..his father happened to meet -a deacon from Seion chapel, Glais. | 0:01:39 | 0:01:43 | |
-There, a plan was hatched -to secure his return to Wales. | 0:01:43 | 0:01:48 | |
-The world is greater than Wales | 0:01:54 | 0:01:57 | |
-The 1904 Revival -had reached its zenith. | 0:02:03 | 0:02:06 | |
-Religious fervour -was transforming individuals. | 0:02:06 | 0:02:10 | |
-But Niclas y Glais -wanted to change the system. | 0:02:10 | 0:02:13 | |
-He opposed the unfairness -of the capitalist system. | 0:02:14 | 0:02:18 | |
-Let there be Capital! -And there was blood and tears | 0:02:20 | 0:02:25 | |
-And steel bombs fell -on town and country | 0:02:25 | 0:02:28 | |
-When we recite the Lord's Prayer, -we say "thy Kingdom come". | 0:02:30 | 0:02:35 | |
-We pray not for a church's success, -a small branch here and there. | 0:02:35 | 0:02:40 | |
-We pray -for the advent of the Kingdom. | 0:02:40 | 0:02:42 | |
-All land, riches, money, -education, health and everything... | 0:02:43 | 0:02:47 | |
-..ought to be at the service -of the Christian ideal. | 0:02:47 | 0:02:51 | |
-His parents -were Dafydd and Bet Nicholas... | 0:03:00 | 0:03:03 | |
-..of Pentregalar in Pembrokeshire. | 0:03:03 | 0:03:06 | |
-He recalls the owner -calling at their home, Y Llety... | 0:03:07 | 0:03:10 | |
-..to collect the rent. | 0:03:11 | 0:03:13 | |
-It wasn't as much this that aroused -his anti-establishment hostility... | 0:03:13 | 0:03:18 | |
-..as much as his experience -at Hermon school. | 0:03:18 | 0:03:21 | |
-The education authorities -were so disparaging... | 0:03:21 | 0:03:24 | |
-..towards the pupils -and the language. | 0:03:25 | 0:03:28 | |
-He explains his feelings. | 0:03:28 | 0:03:30 | |
-"That is why -I have hated the whole system... | 0:03:30 | 0:03:33 | |
-"..so passionately all my life." | 0:03:34 | 0:03:37 | |
-Nicholas had in him something -of his mother and his father. | 0:03:39 | 0:03:43 | |
-His father -was a gentle, thoughtful man. | 0:03:43 | 0:03:46 | |
-TE Nicholas's mother, Bet... | 0:03:47 | 0:03:50 | |
-..was a stronger personality, -and braver. | 0:03:50 | 0:03:53 | |
-There was a combination -of the gentle and the strong. | 0:03:54 | 0:03:58 | |
-Before the ministry, -his first job, at the age of 13... | 0:04:05 | 0:04:09 | |
-..was as a messenger -at the Swan Inn, Eglwys Wen. | 0:04:09 | 0:04:12 | |
-He recalls travelling by cart... | 0:04:13 | 0:04:16 | |
-..from the inn up to Crymych. | 0:04:16 | 0:04:18 | |
-He would recite an ode by Islwyn, -Y Nefoedd, on the way there. | 0:04:18 | 0:04:23 | |
-He would recite Eben Fardd's ode -Dinystr Jerusalem on the way back. | 0:04:23 | 0:04:28 | |
-The innkeeper complained -that he took too long. | 0:04:29 | 0:04:33 | |
-However, in a short time, -he knew both odes off by heart. | 0:04:34 | 0:04:38 | |
-He much preferred the poetic system -to the political system. | 0:04:38 | 0:04:43 | |
-The sunbeams came to me -over the Frenni | 0:04:45 | 0:04:48 | |
-Even though -he had memorized these odes... | 0:04:53 | 0:04:56 | |
-..he had little praise -for the poets who were in vogue. | 0:04:56 | 0:05:00 | |
-He considered their work -to be too highbrow. | 0:05:00 | 0:05:04 | |
-He called it "giraffe food". | 0:05:04 | 0:05:07 | |
-Nonetheless, -he could emulate the style. | 0:05:07 | 0:05:10 | |
-He won nearly 50 chairs in all. | 0:05:10 | 0:05:14 | |
-However, this didn't represent -his most heartfelt poetry. | 0:05:14 | 0:05:18 | |
-It's his own more direct poetry -that wins that accolade. | 0:05:18 | 0:05:22 | |
-We see it in such anthologies -as Salmau'r Werin... | 0:05:22 | 0:05:26 | |
-..Cerddi Gwerin and Cerddi Rhyddid. | 0:05:26 | 0:05:29 | |
-"Many a quiet hour I spent | 0:05:41 | 0:05:43 | |
-"After the toil of a long day | 0:05:43 | 0:05:45 | |
-"Many a song I sang so freely | 0:05:46 | 0:05:48 | |
-"To republics, along the way. | 0:05:48 | 0:05:51 | |
-"I sang not for a chair of oak | 0:05:51 | 0:05:54 | |
-"Nor for a silver or golden wall | 0:05:54 | 0:05:56 | |
-"I sang - and not for profit | 0:05:56 | 0:05:59 | |
-"For the people - that is all. | 0:06:00 | 0:06:02 | |
-"There is rebellion in my breast | 0:06:12 | 0:06:15 | |
-"And revolution in my blood | 0:06:15 | 0:06:17 | |
-"My muse can only sing the story | 0:06:17 | 0:06:19 | |
-"Of the wretches underfoot. | 0:06:19 | 0:06:22 | |
-"Others seek to be lawmakers | 0:06:23 | 0:06:25 | |
-"To raise the weak from worldly fall | 0:06:25 | 0:06:27 | |
-"I'll sing loudly in the battles | 0:06:28 | 0:06:30 | |
-"For the people - that is all. | 0:06:31 | 0:06:33 | |
-For the people - that is all | 0:06:36 | 0:06:39 | |
-"The preachers and the priests | 0:06:42 | 0:06:44 | |
-"They curse me silently | 0:06:44 | 0:06:46 | |
-"The brothers aim to save the souls | 0:06:47 | 0:06:49 | |
-"Of worldly sinners so ungodly. | 0:06:50 | 0:06:52 | |
-"On human rights I place importance | 0:06:53 | 0:06:55 | |
-"The rights of workers to stand tall | 0:06:55 | 0:06:58 | |
-"I'll sing beneath -the profane rituals | 0:06:59 | 0:07:02 | |
-"For the people - that is all." | 0:07:02 | 0:07:05 | |
-Niclas talks of the importance -of simplicity in poetry. | 0:07:16 | 0:07:21 | |
-The common man must understand it. | 0:07:22 | 0:07:25 | |
-A prominent regular feature -is his challenging attitude. | 0:07:25 | 0:07:29 | |
-We must admire him for it. | 0:07:30 | 0:07:32 | |
-His messages are so consistent. | 0:07:32 | 0:07:35 | |
-He is also so clear, -and he is what he is. | 0:07:35 | 0:07:37 | |
-He is the true poet of the people. | 0:07:38 | 0:07:40 | |
-I recall asking this of Niclas. | 0:07:40 | 0:07:42 | |
-How was he so eloquent -when standing before an audience? | 0:07:42 | 0:07:46 | |
-The answer he gave me was this. | 0:07:47 | 0:07:49 | |
-"If it's worth saying, -the words will come to you". | 0:07:49 | 0:07:52 | |
-The rights of workers to stand tall | 0:07:53 | 0:07:55 | |
-Life is beautiful - -not its decorations | 0:07:55 | 0:08:00 | |
-In a way, these volumes -amount to a kind of manifesto. | 0:08:04 | 0:08:08 | |
-They appear when he joins the ILP, -the Independent Labour Party. | 0:08:09 | 0:08:13 | |
-This is when he became close friends -with the MP, Keir Hardie. | 0:08:14 | 0:08:18 | |
-As well as being a minister, -he also edited the Welsh column... | 0:08:19 | 0:08:25 | |
-..in the radical newspaper, -The Merthyr Pioneer. | 0:08:25 | 0:08:30 | |
-But his ten years -in the valley are nearly over. | 0:08:30 | 0:08:33 | |
-The next step for Niclas -is a return to rural Wales. | 0:08:34 | 0:08:37 | |
-"Sometimes a song comes -as mellow as wine drops | 0:08:49 | 0:08:52 | |
-"To sing hope -amid the dry branches." | 0:08:52 | 0:08:55 | |
-TE Nicholas had a hard time -when the First World War broke out. | 0:08:57 | 0:09:02 | |
-He was a pacifist -and a conscientious objector. | 0:09:02 | 0:09:06 | |
-In 1914, he moved -to become a minister... | 0:09:06 | 0:09:09 | |
-..in Llanddewibrefi -and Llangybi in Cardiganshire. | 0:09:09 | 0:09:13 | |
-There was a fierce reaction -to his anti-war sermons. | 0:09:14 | 0:09:18 | |
-Certainly, that led to conflict -with many of the deacons... | 0:09:20 | 0:09:25 | |
-..and other prominent chapelgoers. | 0:09:25 | 0:09:28 | |
-His writings angered those -who backed the war. | 0:09:30 | 0:09:33 | |
-Some newspapers and journals... | 0:09:34 | 0:09:36 | |
-..refused to publish his work -and his letters. | 0:09:36 | 0:09:39 | |
-His pacifist poems -were utterly forthright. | 0:09:43 | 0:09:47 | |
-They rejected any heroic, -romantic connotations of warfare. | 0:09:47 | 0:09:51 | |
-Blood! Blood! Blood! -And a myriad of brothers fallen | 0:09:52 | 0:09:56 | |
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-TE Nicholas was both a socialist -and a pacifist. | 0:10:18 | 0:10:21 | |
-The two things -didn't always go hand in hand. | 0:10:21 | 0:10:24 | |
-In 1918, he stood -as a parliamentary candidate... | 0:10:25 | 0:10:28 | |
-..for the Independent Labour Party -in Aberdare. | 0:10:29 | 0:10:32 | |
-He was asked if he would -willingly shake hands with a German. | 0:10:32 | 0:10:37 | |
-What was the response -from Niclas y Glais? | 0:10:38 | 0:10:41 | |
-"Why not?" | 0:10:41 | 0:10:43 | |
-This didn't please everybody. | 0:10:43 | 0:10:45 | |
-His pacifism and his humanity... | 0:10:46 | 0:10:49 | |
-..were far too radical -for some people. | 0:10:49 | 0:10:52 | |
-We hear of him on many occasions -being persecuted and threatened. | 0:10:55 | 0:10:59 | |
-His car was set on fire, and so on. | 0:11:00 | 0:11:02 | |
-He lost that election, undoubtedly. | 0:11:02 | 0:11:05 | |
-However, as time progressed, -and over the next two years... | 0:11:05 | 0:11:10 | |
-..he felt that the Labour Party -wasn't the answer. | 0:11:10 | 0:11:14 | |
-It would not implement -his cherished socialist principles. | 0:11:14 | 0:11:19 | |
-He wasn't the only radical -in the family. | 0:11:19 | 0:11:22 | |
-My grandfather -was a very staunch pacifist. | 0:11:22 | 0:11:26 | |
-He also supported the ILP. | 0:11:27 | 0:11:29 | |
-During the First War... | 0:11:30 | 0:11:32 | |
-..Niclas led the Cardiganshire -"No Conscription Fellowship". | 0:11:32 | 0:11:37 | |
-My grandmother's brother, -Ben Jones of Aber-cuch... | 0:11:37 | 0:11:42 | |
-..led it in Pembrokeshire. | 0:11:42 | 0:11:44 | |
-Of course, Niclas y Glais -was a prophet in his pacifism. | 0:11:54 | 0:11:59 | |
-People gradually came to see -that his portrayal of war... | 0:11:59 | 0:12:03 | |
-..was fairly close to the mark. | 0:12:03 | 0:12:06 | |
-But, by now, he felt compelled -to give up the ministry. | 0:12:06 | 0:12:10 | |
-He changed direction completely -and became a dentist. | 0:12:10 | 0:12:15 | |
-I considered the work I'd done, -and my speeches over the years. | 0:12:17 | 0:12:21 | |
-My wishes included -getting rid of the slums... | 0:12:22 | 0:12:25 | |
-..and building affordable homes -for the workers. | 0:12:25 | 0:12:29 | |
-It was the same work in a sense. | 0:12:29 | 0:12:31 | |
-I was extracting and replacing -rotten, unhealthy teeth. | 0:12:32 | 0:12:36 | |
-There is no conflict at all -between dentistry and my politics... | 0:12:37 | 0:12:42 | |
-..and the new world -of which I dream. | 0:12:43 | 0:12:45 | |
-He describes himself giving -dental treatments on a Saturday. | 0:12:46 | 0:12:51 | |
-He then treats the saintly souls, -his patients, on a Sunday. | 0:12:51 | 0:12:56 | |
-It's not the Creed -but little daily things | 0:12:59 | 0:13:02 | |
-That are life's foundations -and the pinnacles of faith | 0:13:02 | 0:13:07 | |
-His son, Islwyn, also now worked -in their little dental practice. | 0:13:07 | 0:13:13 | |
-At the end of the dentist's day, -the evening's political work began. | 0:13:14 | 0:13:19 | |
-Campaigning, lecturing, -and supporting trade unions. | 0:13:19 | 0:13:23 | |
-He backed the farmers, -the miners and the quarrymen. | 0:13:23 | 0:13:27 | |
-The Russian Revolution -had inspired Niclas y Glais. | 0:13:28 | 0:13:32 | |
-Lenin was his big hero. | 0:13:32 | 0:13:34 | |
-Niclas saw himself as part of -an international, global movement. | 0:13:35 | 0:13:40 | |
-He drew great strength from this. | 0:13:40 | 0:13:43 | |
-He wanted a change in the system, -and wished to see justice. | 0:13:43 | 0:13:47 | |
-He looks towards Russia, -and then towards China. | 0:13:47 | 0:13:51 | |
-It was this idealism -that kept him going. | 0:13:51 | 0:13:54 | |
-I believe that, latterly, he became -more supportive of China and Cuba. | 0:13:54 | 0:14:00 | |
-He took a keen interest -in the changes in China. | 0:14:00 | 0:14:03 | |
-In faraway Cuba, -soldiers of hell and the yank | 0:14:06 | 0:14:09 | |
-In little Wales, -Hitler, his legion and tank. | 0:14:09 | 0:14:12 | |
-You must admire him -for sticking to his beliefs. | 0:14:13 | 0:14:16 | |
-The authorities -were fuming with him. | 0:14:16 | 0:14:19 | |
-They sent the police into chapels -to hear him preach. | 0:14:19 | 0:14:24 | |
-No wonder -when he writes lines like these. | 0:14:24 | 0:14:27 | |
-Righteousness is in vain -As is the song of Calvary | 0:14:27 | 0:14:31 | |
-While Rhondda's hills are red -With my brothers' innocent blood! | 0:14:31 | 0:14:36 | |
-They eventually found an excuse -to imprison him. | 0:14:37 | 0:14:41 | |
-He and his son Islwyn -were both accused of being fascists. | 0:14:48 | 0:14:53 | |
-The evidence -was merely a set of flags... | 0:14:53 | 0:14:57 | |
-..of the kind -which newspapers distributed... | 0:14:57 | 0:15:01 | |
-..to chart armies' progress -on a map of Europe. | 0:15:01 | 0:15:05 | |
-They found a set in his house. | 0:15:06 | 0:15:08 | |
-It was a sufficient excuse -to take him in, and to imprison him. | 0:15:08 | 0:15:13 | |
-Niclas y Glais and his son Islwyn -were imprisoned in Swansea. | 0:15:15 | 0:15:20 | |
-He was allocated the number 2740 -and put in the "aliens" category. | 0:15:20 | 0:15:25 | |
-A Welshman in Wales, -classed as a foreigner. | 0:15:26 | 0:15:30 | |
-He was then sent to Brixton. | 0:15:33 | 0:15:35 | |
-He was there during the Blitz. | 0:15:35 | 0:15:38 | |
-He was amazed when the guards -ran for cover as the bombs fell... | 0:15:38 | 0:15:42 | |
-..while the prisoners -were ordered to stay put. | 0:15:42 | 0:15:47 | |
-Niclas y Glais was too busy -to add real polish to his poetry... | 0:15:50 | 0:15:55 | |
-..until he found himself in prison. | 0:15:55 | 0:15:57 | |
-Here, he perfected -the art of the sonnet. | 0:15:58 | 0:16:00 | |
-The length of the sonnet -was a factor. | 0:16:01 | 0:16:03 | |
-It consists of 14 lines. | 0:16:04 | 0:16:06 | |
-It fitted neatly -onto a sheet of toilet paper. | 0:16:06 | 0:16:09 | |
-It was an easy task for academics -who wished to organize his work. | 0:16:09 | 0:16:14 | |
-That's because the colour -of Brixton's toilet paper... | 0:16:15 | 0:16:19 | |
-..was different to Swansea's. | 0:16:19 | 0:16:21 | |
-His sonnets -and later works were praised. | 0:16:22 | 0:16:26 | |
-It was considered -to be very fine poetry indeed. | 0:16:26 | 0:16:29 | |
-It was more sensitive, -and quieter in many ways. | 0:16:30 | 0:16:33 | |
-But he stuck to the same themes. | 0:16:33 | 0:16:36 | |
-He continued to challenge. | 0:16:36 | 0:16:38 | |
-"You, my friend, took the easy paths | 0:16:48 | 0:16:51 | |
-"In a world -of great skills and sweet sails | 0:16:52 | 0:16:55 | |
-"And gave to shallow, -flexible consciences | 0:16:55 | 0:16:59 | |
-"The broad promise -of a heaven beyond the stars. | 0:17:00 | 0:17:03 | |
-"You were placed, friend, -in the principal seats | 0:17:05 | 0:17:09 | |
-"And praised -for your success in the world | 0:17:09 | 0:17:12 | |
-"There was no shortage -of flattery or empty words | 0:17:12 | 0:17:16 | |
-"As you went flying higher, higher. | 0:17:17 | 0:17:20 | |
-"I descended -into the poverty of the people | 0:17:24 | 0:17:27 | |
-"Into the depth and tragedy -of blood and treachery | 0:17:27 | 0:17:31 | |
-"And turned my back -from the western sunset | 0:17:31 | 0:17:34 | |
-"To the golden east, -the well of the country's hopes. | 0:17:34 | 0:17:39 | |
-"My body was captured, it's true | 0:17:40 | 0:17:43 | |
-"In the nets of fate | 0:17:44 | 0:17:46 | |
-"Your soul is in prison too, -brother." | 0:17:50 | 0:17:54 | |
-Gwenallt said this of TE Nicholas. | 0:18:11 | 0:18:14 | |
-"Moscow owns the ideas... | 0:18:14 | 0:18:16 | |
-"..Crymych owns the senses." | 0:18:16 | 0:18:18 | |
-But chief bard -James Nicholas says this. | 0:18:18 | 0:18:21 | |
-"In truth, the senses and the ideas -belonged to Crymych and to Wales." | 0:18:21 | 0:18:27 | |
-The seeds of the rebel within him -were sown there in his youth. | 0:18:27 | 0:18:33 | |
-Everyone worked together -in Pembrokeshire... | 0:18:34 | 0:18:37 | |
-..especially at harvest time. | 0:18:37 | 0:18:40 | |
-It was easy for me -to grasp the Russian order... | 0:18:40 | 0:18:43 | |
-..with its collective farms. | 0:18:43 | 0:18:46 | |
-I formed an idea -at that time, as a child... | 0:18:46 | 0:18:49 | |
-..that it was a glorious thing -for men to work together... | 0:18:49 | 0:18:53 | |
-..in order to gather the harvest. | 0:18:53 | 0:18:56 | |
-I hoped to extend the principle. | 0:18:56 | 0:18:58 | |
-My cottage of longing -amid reeds and heather | 0:19:01 | 0:19:04 | |
-Laughter aplenty and nothing false. | 0:19:04 | 0:19:07 | |
-He certainly influenced me -in many ways. | 0:19:08 | 0:19:11 | |
-He said that there was no clash... | 0:19:11 | 0:19:13 | |
-..between nationalism -and internationalism. | 0:19:14 | 0:19:17 | |
-He also taught me -to look behind the headlines... | 0:19:17 | 0:19:21 | |
-..to see what goes on in the world. | 0:19:21 | 0:19:24 | |
-Niclas is a visionary. | 0:19:28 | 0:19:32 | |
-He stays true to his vision -throughout his life. | 0:19:32 | 0:19:36 | |
-Capitalism will fail. | 0:19:36 | 0:19:38 | |
-The common people will prevail. | 0:19:38 | 0:19:41 | |
-That the principles -of peace and justice... | 0:19:41 | 0:19:45 | |
-..are integral to human good... | 0:19:45 | 0:19:48 | |
-..and people's love -towards each other. | 0:19:48 | 0:19:51 | |
-I'd like to live to see one thing. | 0:20:01 | 0:20:04 | |
-To see, say, half a dozen -socialist Welsh MPs... | 0:20:05 | 0:20:11 | |
-..to retrieve the power -of the British parliament... | 0:20:12 | 0:20:16 | |
-..from those American gangsters. | 0:20:16 | 0:20:19 | |
-Religion should lead the way -in this regard. | 0:20:19 | 0:20:22 | |
-The Cross is not an anchor. | 0:20:23 | 0:20:25 | |
-It is a flag -to lead the world onwards... | 0:20:26 | 0:20:29 | |
-..from its difficulties -to a better freedom. | 0:20:29 | 0:20:32 | |
-TE Nicholas was convinced -that things could be improved. | 0:20:37 | 0:20:43 | |
-He could also visualize -a role for Wales to play. | 0:20:43 | 0:20:48 | |
-Its people could fight -an international battle for justice. | 0:20:48 | 0:20:52 | |
-Without doubt, the life and work -of Niclas y Glais prove... | 0:20:52 | 0:20:56 | |
-..that you can love your parish, -your nation and the world. | 0:20:57 | 0:21:02 | |
-"For me once, -Wales was greater than the world | 0:21:20 | 0:21:23 | |
-"I knew nothing at that time -of the vastness of the globe | 0:21:24 | 0:21:28 | |
-"It was by my love for her -that I measured fair Wales | 0:21:29 | 0:21:33 | |
-"She had been created, -or so I thought | 0:21:33 | 0:21:36 | |
-"In a manner -akin to my father's garden. | 0:21:36 | 0:21:39 | |
-"I thought that heaven -and its lovely blue curtains | 0:21:44 | 0:21:48 | |
-"Leaned on the tall shoulders -of the hills of this bardic land | 0:21:49 | 0:21:54 | |
-"And I believed as a child | 0:21:54 | 0:21:57 | |
-"That dear Wales was the owner | 0:21:57 | 0:21:59 | |
-"Of the refined, -seven-coloured rainbows | 0:21:59 | 0:22:02 | |
-"Bow-like above my head. | 0:22:02 | 0:22:04 | |
-"Things have changed today | 0:22:09 | 0:22:11 | |
-"I love the whole wide world | 0:22:11 | 0:22:13 | |
-"But there's no less a place -for my homeland in my heart. | 0:22:14 | 0:22:18 | |
-"The world is greater than Wales | 0:22:19 | 0:22:21 | |
-"I realize that by now | 0:22:21 | 0:22:23 | |
-"And I'm glad that dear old Wales | 0:22:24 | 0:22:26 | |
-"Is part of the greater whole." | 0:22:26 | 0:22:29 | |
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