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-Right, coats on.

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-Come on, we're going.

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-Are we ready?

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-Yes?

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-At care centres across Wales...

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-..an innovative experiment

-is about to take place.

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-They're out there.

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-They're out there.

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-Hello, hello, hello.

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-For the first time...

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-..these pensioners will share their

-day care with a group of children.

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-Lovely. That's made my day.

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-Psychologists from Bangor University

-believe the experiment can prove...

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-..that shared care for young and old

-benefits everyone.

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-Loneliness can increase

-as people get older.

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-But they have so much to offer.

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-Up to age four

-is a key period for children.

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-What we want to know...

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-..is what effect

-spending time with older people...

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-..will have on their development.

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-Three day centres

-are part of the experiment.

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-Over three days, our hidden cameras

-and the psychologists will watch.

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-But will sharing the care

-of children and OAPs...

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-..be as easy as one two three?

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-This is

-the Hen Blant Bach experiment.

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-It's early morning at Cwmamman

-Day Centre, Carmarthenshire.

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-The centre welcomes 22 pensioners.

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-It's a special place

-for people to come to.

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-They're all unwell in some way,

-every one of them.

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-But they keep going, keep trying,

-and that's important.

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-Eirfyl, Ken and Jac

-are the first here every morning.

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-They can then sit back and watch

-everyone settle in for the day.

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-Is that for us?

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-Did you see how easy that was?

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-Yes, it was very easy.

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-June also keeps a close eye

-on the comings and goings.

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-Most of them live alone.

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-We're the only ones they see

-in the week.

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-It's the company,

-more than anything.

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-Someone to talk to.

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-You look very glamorous, Yvonne.

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-You look very glamorous, Yvonne.

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-I don't feel glamorous.

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-The last, but not least,

-to arrive every day is Yvonne.

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-From day one

-that she walked in here...

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-..she has been the life and soul.

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-She comes in late...

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-..and she makes an entrance!

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-Have you done that properly?

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-Have you done that properly?

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-Yes, I have.

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-Oh, this one's good.

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-This one's useless.

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-She doesn't mind what she says,

-please or offend.

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-To be honest,

-I didn't want to come here.

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-I told the children

-it was for old people.

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-"That's what you are!"

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-Inside, I'm still 18.

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-Blod beats you all, and she's 100!

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-No, I'm not 100 yet.

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-Just about.

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-I've got six months to go.

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-Six months?

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-Six months?

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-I think so.

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-January.

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-You're right, six months.

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-For Blod, every day

-is a day to celebrate.

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-I'm 99, and I've had a happy life...

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-..with my children and my husband.

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-Now, I'm 99, and enjoying myself

-up here at the centre.

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-All the pensioners have agreed

-to take part in the experiment.

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-We've looked

-at people's backgrounds.

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-We have a woman

-who had MS at a young age.

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-There's a big gap between her

-and the oldest, who's 99.

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-We want them to enjoy

-the company of children...

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-..and forget about life's worries.

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-Do you know

-what kills me on television?

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-Those child refugees, on television.

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-Little children.

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-Little children.

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-You'll see children here now.

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-The children about to join

-the OAPs in Cwmamman are these.

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-I have to bat the insects.

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-They're all under four.

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-An insect bat.

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-I'm young.

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-You're young?

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-Who's old?

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-Nain and Taid.

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-Times have changed.

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-Mothers do go out to work now...

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-..so children come to nurseries

-like Cae'r Ffair.

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-We have children aged two

-up to three and a half.

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-Children of this age

-don't yet understand...

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-..the concept of what being old is

-or what being young is.

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-How old are Nain and Taid?

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-What age are they?

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-What age are they?

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-I don't know.

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-They're old.

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-Keen to start the adventure...

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-Keen to start the adventure...

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-What about the old people?

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-..the children arrive

-at the Cwmamman Day Centre.

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-Among the OAPs, this will be

-their nursery for three days.

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-For the experiment,

-the psychologists...

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-..have examined the backgrounds

-of every child and OAP.

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-They have never met before,

-so the experiment's first aim...

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-..is to get everyone

-talking to each other.

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-But for Mac,

-that's easier said than done.

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-The pensioner from Garnant

-gets up from his chair...

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-..worried about

-what's about to happen.

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-He's had a bad weekend.

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-He was crying, he didn't want

-to be here, he wanted to go home.

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-During our research,

-Mac had told us...

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-..that he was rather worried about

-how he'd react to the children...

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-..because of mental health issues

-over recent years.

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-He had retired

-and he had lost his wife...

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-..and had been through

-a bad time mentally.

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-I think he has worried a lot

-about his reaction to this change.

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-At 86, I don't have much

-to look forward to.

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-I don't know

-how I'll be with children.

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-With my own children, I'm not bad.

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-Other children, I don't know.

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-The rest of the pensioners

-have noticed Mac's absence.

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-Where's he gone now then?

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-Where's he gone now then?

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-Who? That's what he's like.

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-He's coming back now.

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-Mac is back to give it a go,

-but on his own terms.

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-Every day isn't the same for me.

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-If I feel awkward,

-I'll go somewhere else.

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-But it's hard to escape now

-with the children at the door.

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-The children are here.

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-I've seen them.

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-They're out there.

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-With the first greeting...

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-Hello!

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-Hello!

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-..the experiment begins.

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-At a Cwmamman day centre...

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-..an important experiment

-is taking place.

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-Children and pensioners

-are sharing their day care.

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-Psychologists from Bangor University

-are behind the experiment...

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-..and they will monitor

-everything that happens.

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-Today is the first day

-of the experiment...

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-..and the two generations are

-about to meet for the first time.

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-The pensioners' faces lit up.

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-Jac is the first to bend down

-to welcome the children...

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-..despite suffering from arthritis.

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-But getting back into his chair

-isn't as easy.

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-OK, give me your hand.

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-He instinctively went to them,

-knowing getting back up was a job.

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-Ken is the next one

-to welcome the youngsters.

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-# I saw a jackdaw

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-# Sitting on the roof

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-# A white hat on its head

-and two wooden legs

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-# Ho ho ho ho ho ho #

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-Ken is sociable, he enjoys people.

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-He's spent a lot of time

-with his family...

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-..and with children

-growing up around him.

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-Ken is confident

-and enjoys being with children.

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-I'm 86 and I've had a good life.

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-I've enjoyed myself.

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-Ken now lives alone,

-having lost his wife ten years ago.

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-She was a good wife.

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-The day I got married

-was the best day of my life.

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-She couldn't have children.

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-We waited about six months,

-the wife and I...

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-..then we adopted.

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-I've got a grandson now.

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-He means the world to me.

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-I worship him.

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-He comes up

-and puts his arms around me.

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-A kiss before leaving, everything.

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-He's a good one.

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-To help the children

-get to know their older friends...

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-..the psychologists have created

-numerous activities and games.

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-When children meet new people...

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-..they don't start to talk

-right away.

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-They're very shy.

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-They're very uncertain.

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-We hope this activity

-will help warm them up, in a way...

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-..so that they don't

-have to talk right away.

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-The first game is the parachute.

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-Everyone must work together

-to keep the balloons in the air.

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-I'll go into the middle

-and you can throw me up.

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-You're too heavy.

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-You're too heavy.

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-No, I've lost weight.

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-Blod is the first

-to join in the fun.

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-She may be 99,

-but she's the liveliest one here.

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-She has a firm opinion

-about what children need.

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-Have all the little ones together.

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-When I see them coming,

-I'm up in the air.

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-When the little children come,

-I'm happy.

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-I'm sorry to say this, but mothers

-should be home with their children.

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-But times have changed now.

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-Times have changed.

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-Irene, who has had MS from a young

-age, isn't as keen to join in.

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-She has a phobia about balloons.

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-If one does blow up,

-burst or whatever...

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-..I get such a shock.

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-I start to shake all over.

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-I can't...

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-Yes, it is a shock.

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-Gwion, at three and a half...

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-..is the eldest

-and most confident child.

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-Ken's making more and more effort

-to get his attention.

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-Although he's sitting with Ken...

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-..Eirfyl hasn't interacted much

-with the children so far.

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-The psychologists have noticed,

-and try to address it over lunch.

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-Every day, the pensioners

-have a hot lunch and pudding.

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-This week, the children join them.

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-The psychologists

-have put friends Gwion and Cian...

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-..on the same table as two

-other friends, Ken and Eirfyl.

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-We had two on the table with us,

-and they were shy to start with.

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-It was lovely to have their company.

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-Eirfyl and Ken's meals

-arrive first - ham, chips and peas.

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-Where's my food?

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-Where's my food?

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-It's coming now.

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-That's nice, isn't it?

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-Ken has already given a chip to

-Gwion whilst he waits for his food.

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-Is Eirfyl going to share?

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-Give him a chip!

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-Give him a chip!

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-Thanks to Ken's encouragement,

-Cian gets his chip...

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-..and Eirfyl has been reminded

-of his role as an adult.

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-Eirfyl is living

-with a diagnosis of dementia...

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-..and Ken helps

-by reminding him to do things...

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-..that maybe Eirfyl

-doesn't remember any more.

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-This is a good photo,

-taken in Singapore.

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-He's been forgetting things...

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-..over the past year,

-18 months, two years maybe.

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-The doctor diagnosed him

-with vascular dementia.

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-There's nothing

-they can do about it.

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-Eirfyl and Rhiannon raised three

-children in their home in Llandybie.

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-But because of the dementia,

-Eirfyl's clearest memories now...

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-..are of his time in the army.

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-I went out in January 1953...

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-..and came back

-the following January.

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-We went out by ship

-and stopped in Hong Kong.

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-I was with a Cockney,

-and I said, "Excuse the lingo."

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-"It's alright, Taff,

-he's paying for the beer."

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-He remembers more of the time

-when he was a youngster than now.

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-I hear these stories every day.

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-I'm always hearing them.

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-That doesn't change, unfortunately.

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-As soon as lunch with the children

-on that first day...

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-..the psychologists notice a change

-in Eirfyl's behaviour.

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-The children

-draw him into the present.

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-These new activities give Eirfyl

-a chance to forget his worries.

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-He can just enjoy

-being with the children.

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-Wonderful.

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-Money can't buy something like that.

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-They listened, and they ate

-their food just like you and me.

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-A knife and fork.

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-And a dessert afterwards.

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-Very good.

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-After lunch,

-Eirfyl is a different man...

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-..totally immersed

-with the children.

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-Cap.

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-Chef at the front.

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-Good boy!

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-I'm not sure who said it to me,

-if it was Eirfyl or Ken...

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-One of them said,

-"It just brings back memories."

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-Happy memories.

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-The children

-are obviously triggering...

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-..their happy memories

-of childhood or family life...

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-..or whatever.

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-With Ken's support

-and being with the children...

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-..Eirfyl enjoyed himself,

-and perked up no end.

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-Very often, people withdraw

-if they have dementia...

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-..and withdraw from communicating.

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-It shows that children

-can get the best out of people.

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-By the end of the day,

-there's no stopping the play.

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-The children gain the confidence

-to talk with their older friends...

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-..like Lili Gwen and Blod,

-with a 97-year age difference.

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-I'm a doctor and you have to...

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-Are you going to be a doctor

-when you grow up?

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-When you grow up,

-you have to take medicine.

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-What's he then? Isn't he a doctor?

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-Yvonne is as plain-speaking as ever.

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-I want a lady doctor.

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-I'm not having a man

-looking at my chest, right.

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-I've enjoyed every minute.

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-They weren't afraid of us.

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-They were very much at home.

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-I could take to them,

-which isn't true of every child.

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-Day one of the experiment is over.

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-It's time for the children to bid

-farewell to their new friends.

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-# Goodbye, friends

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-# Goodbye, friends

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-# Goodbye, friends

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-# It's time to say goodbye #

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-Goodbye!

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-Thank you, boys.

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-You have been a good boy.

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-You have been a good boy.

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-Very good.

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-Well-behaved.

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-The children will be back tomorrow

-for more interaction and play.

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-I enjoyed that.

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-I think everyone did.

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-They're coming again.

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-They're coming again.

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-Again?

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-Yes.

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-Yes.

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-Oh, right.

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-I'll enjoy tomorrow as well then.

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-For three days,

-the day centre in Cwmamman...

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-..is doubling as a nursery

-for six small children.

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-Yesterday, the men

-took the children's attention.

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-It's nice to see healthy children.

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-Are your knees OK after yesterday?

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-Are your knees OK after yesterday?

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-Just about!

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-I was wondering

-how you were going to get back up!

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-It's day two of the experiment...

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-..and the pensioners

-eagerly wait for the children.

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-In the meantime,

-there's a chance to have a chat.

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-I was the only woman on the bus.

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-I was the only woman on the bus.

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-Excitement!

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-June and Doris

-always sit next to each other.

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-Not tonight, Josephine.

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-Do you know who said that? Napoleon.

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-Napoleon!

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-Because of my health,

-I didn't have children.

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-I didn't just contract TB.

0:22:140:22:16

-I don't think I'd like

-to have been married with children.

0:22:160:22:20

-Women today

-are altogether different.

0:22:200:22:24

-She knows us!

0:22:290:22:30

-Have you had breakfast?

0:22:320:22:33

-Mac found it hard

-to be with the children yesterday.

0:22:360:22:40

-Today, he's among the first

-in to welcome them.

0:22:400:22:44

-Little children.

0:22:450:22:46

-They're funny, aren't they?

0:22:480:22:50

-Thirty-one all, ten minutes to go.

0:22:520:22:54

-But for now, his mind is on rugby,

-as the Lions play New Zealand.

0:22:540:22:59

-They're all good players

-before they go on tour.

0:23:000:23:05

-The English, they're biased

-against the Welsh and the Irish.

0:23:050:23:09

-Don't start.

0:23:100:23:11

-No, no, they're not.

0:23:110:23:14

-Carwyn James managed the Lions.

-He wasn't good enough for Wales.

0:23:150:23:19

-Am I right?

0:23:200:23:21

-Am I right?

-

-You're spot on.

0:23:210:23:22

-Because he was Plaid Cymru.

0:23:220:23:25

-Yes, yes, yes.

0:23:250:23:27

-When the children arrive,

-they're miked up.

0:23:270:23:31

-The psychologists

-can then listen in...

0:23:320:23:34

-..and tailor activities

-with the OAPs.

0:23:340:23:37

-On the second day,

-we're giving the quieter adults...

0:23:500:23:53

-..an opportunity

-to spend time with the children...

0:23:540:23:57

-..to see what difference

-that could make.

0:23:570:24:00

-The psychologists

-have given books to the children.

0:24:010:24:04

-None of the children, who are two

-and three, can read themselves yet.

0:24:040:24:09

-They must look for help.

0:24:090:24:11

-Mac's getting up.

0:24:130:24:15

-Mac's getting up.

-

-Yes.

0:24:150:24:16

-I hope he comes back.

0:24:170:24:19

-Children have a way with them.

0:24:190:24:21

-But I don't have the patience.

0:24:210:24:23

-It's in short supply.

0:24:240:24:25

-Jac y Jwc has fallen.

0:24:250:24:28

-Jac the jumper.

0:24:280:24:29

-The psychologists want to attract

-more women into the activities.

0:24:290:24:34

-Over a story, Yvonne

-has a chance to meet Gruffydd.

0:24:340:24:38

-Do you want to sit on my lap?

0:24:380:24:40

-Are you going to sit on my lap?

0:24:410:24:42

-Our youngest child is Gruffydd.

0:24:430:24:45

-He's very mature for his age.

0:24:460:24:48

-I'd like to give him the chance...

0:24:480:24:50

-..to sit, one to one,

-while engaged in an activity.

0:24:510:24:54

-I'd like an adult

-to start a conversation...

0:24:550:24:58

-..to hear what Gruffydd has to say.

0:24:580:25:00

-Are you coming home to live with me?

0:25:000:25:02

-Are you coming home to live with me?

-

-No.

0:25:020:25:03

-I'd pamper you a lot!

0:25:040:25:05

-No.

0:25:060:25:07

-Do you have brothers or sisters?

0:25:100:25:12

-I've got a setter.

0:25:130:25:14

-What?

0:25:140:25:15

-What?

-

-A setter.

0:25:150:25:16

-A setter.

0:25:170:25:18

-Mami's baby has gone.

0:25:200:25:23

-Mami's baby has gone.

0:25:240:25:26

-Mami's baby has gone.

0:25:270:25:29

-Gone?

0:25:290:25:30

-Gone?

-

-Yes.

0:25:300:25:31

-What was wrong?

0:25:320:25:33

-The baby's happy in the sky.

0:25:330:25:37

-Oh.

0:25:380:25:39

-Unfortunately,

-I recently had a stillbirth.

0:25:480:25:52

-A little girl we've called Manon.

0:25:530:25:56

-It's been a very tough time

-for us as a family, really.

0:25:560:26:00

-A difficult time.

0:26:000:26:02

-But as the baby had gone,

-we had to explain that.

0:26:040:26:07

-It wasn't enough

-just to say that the baby had gone.

0:26:080:26:12

-He wanted to know why she'd gone.

0:26:130:26:16

-We still have times when we're sad,

-because it only happened in April.

0:26:170:26:22

-When you come home

-after something like that...

0:26:230:26:27

-..after a doctor's appointment,

-after losing a baby at birth...

0:26:270:26:32

-..you come home and he's here...

0:26:320:26:34

-..he does raise your spirits.

0:26:340:26:36

-You have to move on with life.

0:26:360:26:38

-You have to be happy if he's proud

-of something he's done.

0:26:390:26:42

-You have to show you're happy too.

0:26:420:26:45

-Having him here

-has helped us through it.

0:26:450:26:49

-He's been a tonic for us, I think.

0:26:490:26:53

-You're cuddly.

0:26:590:27:00

-Are the children

-eating with us today?

0:27:080:27:11

-Yes.

0:27:110:27:12

-Yes.

-

-Very good.

0:27:120:27:13

-Very good.

0:27:130:27:14

-I hope they don't get frightened!

0:27:150:27:17

-Over sausage and mash, June and Ken

-are joined by Cian and Gwion.

0:27:170:27:23

-Mac eats with Noa and Gruff.

0:27:240:27:27

-But it's not a good start for Noa.

0:27:270:27:29

-It's alright, she's coming.

0:27:290:27:31

-Don't cry.

0:27:320:27:34

-It doesn't matter about that.

0:27:350:27:37

-Never mind.

0:27:370:27:39

-Oh!

0:27:390:27:41

-Oh!

-

-I'll take the blame.

0:27:410:27:42

-I'll take the blame.

0:27:420:27:44

-I was talking to him.

0:27:450:27:46

-The fact that Mac

-just stood up for Noa...

0:27:480:27:52

-..won't just boost Noa's confidence.

0:27:520:27:55

-I think it'll also create

-a special connection between them.

0:27:550:28:00

-It's not all sweetness and light

-on the next table either.

0:28:000:28:05

-Cian and Gwion are trying everything

-to get Ken and June's attention.

0:28:090:28:14

-He's a naughty one.

0:28:180:28:20

-Ken called Gwion and Cian

-naughty children.

0:28:210:28:24

-When he does that,

-they react in a mischievous way.

0:28:260:28:30

-Do you like it?

0:28:300:28:31

-Do you like it?

-

-You're stupid!

0:28:310:28:32

-Oh!

0:28:330:28:34

-Gwion!

0:28:340:28:35

-Hey, don't.

0:28:390:28:41

-In this situation, it's so easy

-to label a child as naughty.

0:28:410:28:46

-The reason parents do that is for

-a child to learn the difference...

0:28:460:28:52

-..between good and bad behaviour.

0:28:520:28:54

-By labelling children

-as naughty over and over...

0:28:550:29:00

-..that can motivate them

-to misbehave...

0:29:010:29:04

-..and then view themselves

-as naughty children.

0:29:040:29:08

-The silence around the table...

0:29:170:29:20

-..shows that his hasn't been

-enjoyable for anyone.

0:29:200:29:24

-We want to change things...

0:29:250:29:27

-..to see how we can show

-that good behaviour is rewarded.

0:29:270:29:31

-The psychologists

-want the OAPs and the children...

0:29:310:29:35

-..to work as a team

-while decorating a cake.

0:29:350:29:38

-It's a competition, so the team

-that works together best will win.

0:29:390:29:43

-That's good!

0:29:430:29:44

-That is good.

0:29:450:29:47

-June is joined by Gwion,

-by himself this time.

0:29:480:29:52

-June, brace yourself.

0:29:520:29:54

-I press them down, easy.

0:29:590:30:02

-June is ready to encourage Gwion,

-and praises him often.

0:30:020:30:07

-She's used to handling boys,

-having spent years as a childminder.

0:30:070:30:12

-This takes me back years, you know.

0:30:130:30:15

-I used to look after

-a lot of children...

0:30:160:30:20

-..especially boys.

0:30:200:30:21

-Mac has agreed to take part

-in the competition as well.

0:30:250:30:28

-After he took the blame

-for the spilt drink...

0:30:290:30:32

-..the psychologists

-have paired him with Noa.

0:30:330:30:36

-What's that?

0:30:370:30:38

-What's that?

-

-A big one!

0:30:380:30:39

-Oh, you're good.

0:30:440:30:45

-That's very good.

0:30:450:30:47

-He's talking nice and gently.

0:30:470:30:49

-Very good.

0:30:500:30:51

-The blue one next.

0:30:510:30:52

-You're very good, aren't you?

0:30:530:30:56

-Can I eat one of these?

0:30:560:30:59

-Can I eat one of these?

-

-Alright.

0:30:590:31:01

-Don't tell anyone!

0:31:030:31:05

-We'll get a row!

0:31:050:31:07

-It's interesting to watch Mac

-supporting Noa, who's sensitive too.

0:31:080:31:13

-Working with a child he doesn't know

-helps his confidence.

0:31:130:31:17

-No-one knew each other

-before we began.

0:31:180:31:20

-We're partners, aren't we, Noa?

0:31:210:31:23

-We're friends, aren't we?

0:31:240:31:26

-Didn't we make a nice cake?

0:31:270:31:28

-Don't tell the teacher.

0:31:310:31:32

-We'll get a row!

0:31:330:31:34

-Will he put it back on the cake?

0:31:340:31:37

-Never mind.

0:31:380:31:40

-Never mind.

-

-No, never mind.

0:31:400:31:42

-You're pressing too hard.

0:31:440:31:46

-There you are.

0:31:460:31:47

-A different gentleman

-to what we saw yesterday morning.

0:31:480:31:52

-He was almost frightened then,

-of what was going to happen...

0:31:520:31:57

-..despite us reassuring him.

0:31:570:31:59

-Just seeing him come alive

-with the children...

0:32:000:32:03

-..and being the Mac

-that we know is there...

0:32:040:32:08

-..but don't always see,

-if that makes sense.

0:32:080:32:11

-Who won the best cake in Cwmamman?

0:32:110:32:14

-Mac and Noa,

-for such great teamwork.

0:32:150:32:18

-You won, Noa!

0:32:190:32:21

-Thank you, Noa!

0:32:210:32:22

-Thank you!

0:32:230:32:24

-Well done, Mac!

0:32:240:32:26

-Do you want one?

0:32:290:32:30

-They're more open, aren't they?

0:32:300:32:32

-They're more open, aren't they?

-

-Yes.

0:32:320:32:33

-They've mixed a lot more.

0:32:330:32:36

-Mac sits out here

-by himself, reading.

0:32:360:32:39

-But this week,

-he's been in there most of the time.

0:32:400:32:43

-We're all here for the same thing.

0:32:440:32:47

-We're all here

-because we love our job.

0:32:470:32:50

-We want to make a difference

-to people's lives.

0:32:500:32:53

-Something like this

-is really making a difference.

0:32:540:32:58

-You can see the benefit,

-they're full of smiles and excited.

0:32:580:33:01

-It's a wonderful experience so far.

0:33:020:33:04

-Are you going now? Shake hands?

0:33:040:33:07

-Another day ends at the centre.

0:33:150:33:17

-Most of the OAPs are taken home

-by the centre's minibus.

0:33:170:33:22

-But without fail, every day...

0:33:220:33:25

-..Yvonne is driven home

-by Hywel, her husband.

0:33:250:33:29

-You're not in tomorrow.

0:33:300:33:31

-I've told Bernadette

-you're having a day off tomorrow.

0:33:320:33:35

-Did you say why?

0:33:360:33:37

-Shopping and dinner, tell him.

0:33:370:33:41

-It's our anniversary, it is.

0:33:410:33:44

-59 years.

0:33:440:33:46

-I was somewhat shy as a lad.

0:33:520:33:56

-I heard where she went

-on a Saturday night...

0:33:570:34:01

-..regularly.

0:34:010:34:02

-To the dances..

0:34:020:34:03

-I liked dancing.

0:34:040:34:06

-It didn't matter

-how old or how ugly they were.

0:34:070:34:10

-If they could dance,

-they were alright with me.

0:34:100:34:13

-The tango was best.

0:34:140:34:15

-Oh, they held you.

0:34:150:34:17

-It was lovely.

0:34:180:34:20

-She had seen me, believe you me.

0:34:200:34:23

-No, I was joking when I said that.

0:34:230:34:24

-No, I was joking when I said that.

-

-She knew I was there.

0:34:240:34:27

-I got a yen one Saturday...

0:34:280:34:31

-..and asked

-if she wanted me to take her home.

0:34:310:34:34

-Yvonne's health

-has deteriorated recently.

0:34:350:34:38

-Three years ago,

-she was diagnosed with dementia.

0:34:380:34:42

-The doctor sympathized with me...

0:34:460:34:50

-..and said, "I'm sorry."

0:34:500:34:52

-"You can't do nothing about it,

-it's happened," I said.

0:34:520:34:56

-No-one can do a thing.

0:34:560:34:59

-No-one can do a thing.

-

-My life has changed completely.

0:34:590:35:02

-It's a heavy burden,

-and it takes up all my time.

0:35:020:35:07

-The main thing you have to face

-is that she won't get better.

0:35:070:35:12

-The situation will only get worse.

0:35:120:35:15

-That does sadden you

-and dishearten you at times.

0:35:150:35:20

-But I can't let that

-affect my contribution.

0:35:200:35:24

-We're getting through it,

-aren't we, Yvonne?

0:35:240:35:27

-That's why I feel

-that our love is still growing.

0:35:270:35:31

-Isn't it?

0:35:310:35:32

-Probably.

0:35:320:35:34

-Or you'd have packed your bags,

-the way I shout at you.

0:35:340:35:37

-In one ear, Yvonne,

-and out the other.

0:35:380:35:41

-That's how it is.

0:35:410:35:43

-Tomorrow is the final day

-of the experiment in Cwmamman.

0:35:470:35:51

-To end the experience,

-both the children and the OAPs...

0:35:520:35:57

-..are taken back to a dance,

-a time when everyone feels young.

0:35:580:36:03

-.

0:36:040:36:04

-Subtitles

0:36:090:36:09

-Subtitles

-

-Subtitles

0:36:090:36:11

-Over three days, this day centre

-has been a nursery for six children.

0:36:140:36:20

-This is the final day

-of the experiment.

0:36:200:36:23

-The psychologists want to create a

-special memory for both generations.

0:36:230:36:28

-There's a party, and everyone

-arrives dressed to the nines.

0:36:280:36:33

-A party this afternoon? Oh, dear me.

0:36:330:36:36

-There we are.

0:36:370:36:38

-Don't get me drunk!

0:36:390:36:40

-Ken has arrived as well,

-despite a difficult morning.

0:36:410:36:46

-He'd fallen this morning.

0:36:460:36:47

-He'd fallen this morning.

-

-You fell?

0:36:470:36:48

-He was flat out, but he's alright.

0:36:480:36:51

-He has survived.

0:36:510:36:52

-I missed a step.

0:36:530:36:54

-I'm like that.

0:36:540:36:56

-Apparently, Jeff the driver's

-gone in and Ken was on the floor.

0:36:560:37:00

-He said

-he'd lost his balance and fallen.

0:37:010:37:04

-You get better service

-than the wife.

0:37:040:37:09

-Your tea's there.

0:37:090:37:10

-Your tea's there.

-

-Thank you, bach.

0:37:100:37:11

-Ken had been on the floor for almost

-half an hour before he was found.

0:37:130:37:18

-I'm alright now.

0:37:180:37:20

-It happened like that.

0:37:200:37:22

-Do you feel OK now?

0:37:240:37:26

-Are you alright now?

0:37:260:37:27

-Yes, good now.

0:37:270:37:29

-I miss the children,

-even though they were busy.

0:37:340:37:38

-I'm more relaxed, you know.

0:37:380:37:41

-I'm more relaxed, you know.

-

-The two who eat with me are great.

0:37:410:37:45

-Are they coming today?

0:37:450:37:47

-Are they coming today?

-

-Yes, they won't be long.

0:37:470:37:48

-Lovely.

0:37:480:37:49

-Lovely.

-

-Are you looking forward to it?

0:37:490:37:51

-Mine's naughty and his is gentle!

0:37:520:37:54

-The children have arrived.

0:37:550:37:58

-Everyone's looking forward

-to a day of celebrations.

0:37:590:38:03

-Spending time

-with the children...

0:38:110:38:13

-..takes the OAPs back to a time

-when they were young themselves.

0:38:140:38:18

-Children are the same,

-but there's television today.

0:38:190:38:23

-When they get home, they can watch

-whatever they want on television.

0:38:240:38:28

-That's modern life.

0:38:280:38:30

-We used to play

-top and whip and marbles.

0:38:300:38:34

-Tyres, and playing conkers.

0:38:360:38:39

-You need a helmet today,

-health and safety.

0:38:400:38:43

-Lovely. That's made my day.

0:38:550:38:58

-Hello.

0:38:580:38:59

-Hello.

-

-Hello.

0:38:590:39:00

-I've enjoyed my time with them.

0:39:010:39:03

-As they say, make the most of it.

0:39:040:39:06

-Stickers.

0:39:060:39:07

-They take these off something

-and stick them on this.

0:39:140:39:19

-I had one on my nose.

0:39:190:39:20

-It's fallen off now.

0:39:200:39:22

-And on my forehead.

0:39:220:39:24

-You're good.

0:39:300:39:31

-Irene has made an effort

-to come today.

0:39:310:39:35

-She doesn't usually come

-to the centre on a Thursday.

0:39:370:39:41

-She undergoes treatment for her MS

-in an oxygen chamber.

0:39:410:39:45

-The oxygen goes direct to the body.

0:39:450:39:51

-It improves the circulation

-of the blood to the head.

0:39:510:39:57

-That's what MS is,

-damage to the brain.

0:39:570:40:02

-Irene was only 28

-when she was diagnosed with MS.

0:40:020:40:06

-At the time,

-she had two young children.

0:40:070:40:10

-I lost out, yes...

0:40:110:40:13

-..because I couldn't walk

-and be out with them.

0:40:130:40:17

-But that was my life,

-I didn't know any different.

0:40:170:40:21

-They didn't take any notice

-of the chair today.

0:40:210:40:25

-I don't know, I think it's me...

0:40:250:40:28

-..who feels it.

0:40:290:40:30

-The children were pretty good.

0:40:300:40:33

-The psychologists

-want everyone to celebrate...

0:40:350:40:38

-..the relationships formed

-these past days.

0:40:390:40:42

-The dining room has been transformed

-into a 1950s dance hall.

0:40:420:40:47

-It was a time when the likes

-of Blod and Yvonne were young.

0:40:480:40:52

-Dancing. Saturday couldn't come

-quickly enough.

0:40:520:40:56

-I have enjoyed my life, I must say.

0:40:570:41:01

-It's been about 60 years

-since I last went to a dance.

0:41:020:41:06

-And, of course, you need dancers.

0:41:060:41:08

-Oh, I say!

0:41:120:41:13

-Those were the days!

0:41:140:41:16

-Those were the days.

0:41:160:41:17

-Those were the days.

-

-Those were nice days.

0:41:170:41:19

-But will it help to relive memories

-of dances from that time?

0:41:230:41:27

-What is this, Blod?

0:41:530:41:54

-A waltz, I think.

0:41:560:41:57

-I must say,

-I have enjoyed this week.

0:42:040:42:08

-It's the best week we've had here.

0:42:080:42:10

-Are you going to dance

-when you grow up?

0:42:120:42:15

-Or play football?

0:42:150:42:16

-Look at them spinning.

0:42:410:42:43

-Oh, lovely memories.

0:42:490:42:51

-It was nice.

0:42:520:42:54

-I'd love to go

-to the dances every Saturday.

0:42:550:42:58

-Then comes the big moment

-when they all join in the dance.

0:42:580:43:02

-Be gentle with me!

0:43:030:43:04

-Be gentle with me!

-

-I'll be extremely gentle.

0:43:040:43:06

-For the children...

0:43:080:43:10

-..it's accepting people for people.

0:43:100:43:15

-Not labelling.

0:43:150:43:17

-They just see through

-all disabilities, children do.

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-For the older people, children

-help them forget their disabilities.

0:43:220:43:26

-Forget what's wrong

-and just make them happy.

0:43:270:43:32

-Are you OK, Noa?

0:43:450:43:46

-It was emotional.

-All we've done is cry.

0:43:490:43:52

-After all the excitement

-and experiences...

0:44:020:44:05

-..the three days are over,

-and everyone has to say goodbye.

0:44:050:44:10

-Thank you. Shake hands!

0:44:120:44:14

-The older you get,

-you appreciate everything.

0:44:200:44:24

-The children have done that,

-and they were excellent.

0:44:240:44:28

-The children were, yes. Excellent.

0:44:290:44:31

-You have been beautiful.

0:44:340:44:37

-We clearly need to do more of this.

0:44:390:44:43

-The old people

-got so much out of it.

0:44:430:44:45

-It's important to have

-more contact with the little ones.

0:44:450:44:49

-# Goodbye, friends

0:44:550:44:57

-# Goodbye, friends

0:44:580:45:01

-# Goodbye, friends

0:45:010:45:04

-# It's time to say goodbye #

0:45:040:45:07

-Goodbye!

0:45:070:45:08

-But not everyone

-wants to say goodbye.

0:45:080:45:12

-I want to stay here.

0:45:130:45:14

-I want to stay here.

-

-You want to stay here, Gwion?

0:45:140:45:16

-Why do you want to stay?

0:45:160:45:17

-Don't you want to go?

0:45:190:45:20

-Don't you want to go?

-

-No.

0:45:200:45:21

-Don't you want to go home?

0:45:220:45:23

-Good boy.

0:45:280:45:29

-At the start of this week,

-these children had no concept...

0:45:360:45:41

-..of what it is to be an old person.

0:45:410:45:44

-Nursery-age children

-are full of energy and vitality.

0:45:440:45:49

-Bringing them

-to a much calmer environment...

0:45:490:45:53

-..has had a positive effect

-on the children's behaviour.

0:45:530:45:58

-Ta-ra!

0:45:580:45:59

-Goodbye!

0:46:000:46:05

-In three days at this centre,

-we've seen substantial changes.

0:46:050:46:09

-The children and old people

-now share perfect time together.

0:46:090:46:14

-Age makes no difference.

0:46:140:46:16

-They just enjoy it, and respect

-the space and the time they get.

0:46:170:46:21

-I hope this will continue.

0:46:220:46:24

-It's odd that these children

-will grow to be our age.

0:46:240:46:27

-It's a pleasure to see them.

0:46:290:46:32

-There's a lot ahead of them.

0:46:330:46:35

-I'm glad it's over,

-put it like that.

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-Not that I didn't enjoy it...

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-..but I can have a lie-in tomorrow!

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-Goodbye!

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