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-Good evening and welcome -to Heno live from Llanelli. | 0:00:17 | 0:00:20 | |
-It's great to have your company -on this Tuesday evening. | 0:00:21 | 0:00:24 | |
-The Lonely Planet travel guide -has revealed that North Wales... | 0:00:24 | 0:00:30 | |
-..is one of the top ten places -in the world to visit in 2017. | 0:00:30 | 0:00:35 | |
-I've always known that it's paradise -along with the rest of the country! | 0:00:35 | 0:00:39 | |
-It was wonderful to wake up -to this news this morning. | 0:00:40 | 0:00:44 | |
-You certainly don't have -to go further than home! | 0:00:44 | 0:00:47 | |
-It's another -varied programme tonight. | 0:00:47 | 0:00:50 | |
-We travel to Italy with Gerallt -at a Caernarfon Italian restaurant. | 0:00:50 | 0:00:53 | |
-He's celebrating World Pasta Day. | 0:00:54 | 0:00:56 | |
-It's also International Artist Day. | 0:00:56 | 0:00:58 | |
-Rhodri Davies traces the story of -the great sculptor, Ezzelina Jones. | 0:00:58 | 0:01:03 | |
-Her family aim to safeguard -the future of her work. | 0:01:03 | 0:01:06 | |
-Alun Williams was in Carmarthen -for today's Welsh Dairy Show... | 0:01:06 | 0:01:10 | |
-..and enriched -his knowledge of cattle! | 0:01:10 | 0:01:14 | |
-My studio guest tonight is -the presenter, Lara Catrin. | 0:01:14 | 0:01:19 | |
-Lara has penned her debut novel -and it's called Llyfr bach Paris. | 0:01:20 | 0:01:25 | |
-You've recently written a book. | 0:01:25 | 0:01:30 | |
-It's about her Parisian experiences. | 0:01:30 | 0:01:33 | |
-My book was released last week. | 0:01:33 | 0:01:36 | |
-It's World Pasta Day, -so happy pasta day to you! | 0:01:36 | 0:01:39 | |
-The day celebrates one of the -world's most popular foods... | 0:01:39 | 0:01:42 | |
-..and we don't have to travel to -Italy to enjoy some tasty pasta. | 0:01:42 | 0:01:46 | |
-Gerallt sampled the pasta -on the menu in Caernarfon. | 0:01:46 | 0:01:50 | |
-Pasta is a simple food -that serves both the rich and poor. | 0:01:56 | 0:02:00 | |
-The first reference to pasta -was in Sicily, back in 1154. | 0:02:00 | 0:02:05 | |
-Pasta is Italy's gift to the world. | 0:02:05 | 0:02:10 | |
-Italy alone currently produces -3.2 million tons of pasta a year. | 0:02:16 | 0:02:23 | |
-But, in my opinion the pasta served -in Caernarfon is just as delicious! | 0:02:24 | 0:02:29 | |
-At the kitchen of Stones Bistro... | 0:02:33 | 0:02:36 | |
-..Tupe and Corinna Langi -keep the old tradition alive... | 0:02:36 | 0:02:39 | |
-..and their customers full! | 0:02:39 | 0:02:43 | |
-It's incredibly tasty -and I'm enjoying it. | 0:02:44 | 0:02:48 | |
-The spaghetti bolognese is lovely. | 0:02:48 | 0:02:51 | |
-My favourite pasta dish is lasagne. | 0:02:51 | 0:02:53 | |
-I'm a vegetarian and many places -serve pasta but this is the best. | 0:02:54 | 0:03:01 | |
-It's different to shop-bought pasta -because it's been freshly made here. | 0:03:02 | 0:03:07 | |
-You're able to serve this bolognese -with fish or anything. | 0:03:08 | 0:03:12 | |
-It's a lot tastier than -the pasta you buy in a shop. | 0:03:13 | 0:03:20 | |
-Everyone recommends the lasagne -as it's the best lasagne in town. | 0:03:20 | 0:03:24 | |
-All Italian people love pasta -and you can cook it with everything. | 0:03:26 | 0:03:31 | |
-You can combine it with fish, -meat and vegetables. | 0:03:31 | 0:03:37 | |
-Serve it with garlic and oil -and it makes a great meal for us. | 0:03:37 | 0:03:43 | |
-It's great watching other -people's food being cooked. | 0:03:48 | 0:03:52 | |
-I prefer someone else cooking it! | 0:03:52 | 0:03:55 | |
-How many types of pasta -does Tupe serve? | 0:03:55 | 0:03:57 | |
-There are three pastas -and spaghetti is the most common. | 0:03:58 | 0:04:01 | |
-The lasagne is cooked 'al forno', -meaning in the microwave or oven. | 0:04:02 | 0:04:07 | |
-Tagliatelle is served with ragu, -which is similar to bolognese. | 0:04:07 | 0:04:12 | |
-It's World Pasta Day, so why is -pasta so popular in this country? | 0:04:13 | 0:04:21 | |
-Italian immigrants brought over -traditions during World War I... | 0:04:21 | 0:04:27 | |
-..and they've grown in popularity. | 0:04:27 | 0:04:34 | |
-It's great watching Tupe and Corinna -at work as it's all quite new to me. | 0:04:34 | 0:04:41 | |
-There is something special -about preparing the pasta. | 0:04:41 | 0:04:46 | |
-They're so passionate about food -and it's almost like a religion. | 0:04:46 | 0:04:52 | |
-Pasta-making can be a long process -but it's so easy to buy in a shop. | 0:04:53 | 0:04:58 | |
-The dough is fed through this device -and you can taste the difference. | 0:04:58 | 0:05:03 | |
-Many of these devices -lie idle in our cupboards. | 0:05:04 | 0:05:08 | |
-I'm guilty of that! | 0:05:08 | 0:05:11 | |
-World Pasta Day is a great day and -I can see why pasta is so popular. | 0:05:12 | 0:05:20 | |
-Only one word describes it -- bellissimo! | 0:05:20 | 0:05:25 | |
-That pasta looked tasty! -It's made me feel hungry now! | 0:05:31 | 0:05:34 | |
-My studio guest tonight is the -presenter and actress, Lara Catrin. | 0:05:34 | 0:05:39 | |
-Welcome to the programme. | 0:05:39 | 0:05:41 | |
-Thank you. | 0:05:41 | 0:05:45 | |
-I'm feeling hungry too! | 0:05:45 | 0:05:51 | |
-Lara has penned her first novel -and it's called Llyfr Bach Paris. | 0:05:51 | 0:05:56 | |
-Tell us more about your new book. | 0:05:56 | 0:05:59 | |
-I love the new book. | 0:05:59 | 0:06:03 | |
-You spent two years in Paris. | 0:06:03 | 0:06:07 | |
-Yes, that's right. | 0:06:07 | 0:06:15 | |
-I'd always wanted to live in Paris. | 0:06:15 | 0:06:20 | |
-I wanted to go there. | 0:06:20 | 0:06:31 | |
-Whilst there, -I started writing a blog... | 0:06:31 | 0:06:39 | |
-..as it was my way of keeping -in touch with people. | 0:06:40 | 0:06:44 | |
-I was asked to write the book. | 0:06:44 | 0:06:52 | |
-It's very complicated to publish -a book. | 0:06:52 | 0:07:05 | |
-You spent two years in Paris. | 0:07:05 | 0:07:09 | |
-You've had a variety -of experiences in Paris. | 0:07:10 | 0:07:14 | |
-Yes, that's right. | 0:07:14 | 0:07:19 | |
-I was only meant to be there -for six months... | 0:07:19 | 0:07:24 | |
-..but spent two years in total. | 0:07:24 | 0:07:29 | |
-I did so many different jobs... | 0:07:29 | 0:07:42 | |
-..from caring for children -to looking after cats! | 0:07:42 | 0:07:46 | |
-You list the cafes and shops. | 0:07:46 | 0:07:54 | |
-This is a helpful guide. | 0:07:54 | 0:07:58 | |
-Every chapter is set in a cafe. | 0:07:58 | 0:08:02 | |
-It's also a travel guide -to the city. | 0:08:02 | 0:08:05 | |
-I hope it's the sort of book... | 0:08:05 | 0:08:09 | |
-..that you can pick and -flick through. | 0:08:10 | 0:08:23 | |
-You lived in Paris during -the terrorist attacks... | 0:08:23 | 0:08:28 | |
-..at the Charlie Hebdo building. | 0:08:29 | 0:08:35 | |
-Yes, I did mention -the Charlie Hebdo attacks. | 0:08:35 | 0:08:41 | |
-When you live in a city... | 0:08:41 | 0:08:45 | |
-..it feels a part of you. | 0:08:45 | 0:08:53 | |
-I also had friends in the theatre... | 0:08:53 | 0:09:00 | |
-..when the music concert -was attacked. | 0:09:00 | 0:09:17 | |
-I wanted to show people -that it was terrifying. | 0:09:18 | 0:09:21 | |
-I had to write about it. | 0:09:22 | 0:09:25 | |
-You can now speak fluent French. | 0:09:25 | 0:09:30 | |
-I'm a fluent French speaker now. | 0:09:30 | 0:09:34 | |
-It helped me to get jobs in France. | 0:09:34 | 0:09:38 | |
-Living there changed the way I shop. | 0:09:38 | 0:09:42 | |
-I now refuse to buy sliced bread! | 0:09:42 | 0:09:46 | |
-I can spend a lot of time -by myself too. | 0:09:47 | 0:09:51 | |
-It's very important. | 0:09:51 | 0:09:54 | |
-You get to know yourself better. | 0:09:54 | 0:09:56 | |
-Thank you. | 0:09:57 | 0:09:58 | |
-If you're looking to entertain your -little ones during the half term... | 0:09:58 | 0:10:02 | |
-..why not visit -Dinefwr Park in Llandeilo? | 0:10:03 | 0:10:05 | |
-The site is beautiful at this time -of year with its changing colours. | 0:10:05 | 0:10:09 | |
-There's also plenty of activities -for your children. | 0:10:10 | 0:10:13 | |
-Over half term at Dinefwr Park, -we've been playing with conkers. | 0:10:13 | 0:10:19 | |
-We collected the conkers and spoke -about the trees that produce them... | 0:10:19 | 0:10:24 | |
-..namely the horse chestnut. | 0:10:24 | 0:10:27 | |
-It's followed -by a conkers competition. | 0:10:27 | 0:10:30 | |
-There's also a Wild Wednesday... | 0:10:31 | 0:10:34 | |
-..when we'll be cook on our exterior -stove and toast marshmallows... | 0:10:34 | 0:10:40 | |
-..and we might cook some bread -which will be very interesting. | 0:10:41 | 0:10:46 | |
-I hope it's a lot of fun -for the children. | 0:10:46 | 0:10:51 | |
-Over the rest of half term, -we'll do a lot with the pumpkins. | 0:10:52 | 0:10:58 | |
-Children are given a pumpkin -and can carve a face in it. | 0:10:58 | 0:11:06 | |
-There's Halloween events where -you make a spider or even a bat... | 0:11:06 | 0:11:13 | |
-..that you can take home -and hide to scare someone! | 0:11:14 | 0:11:19 | |
-For further information, visit -www.nationaltrust.org.uk/dinefwr | 0:11:19 | 0:11:28 | |
-After the break... | 0:11:32 | 0:11:36 | |
-..we hear the remarkable story of -the sculptor, Ezzelina Jones... | 0:11:36 | 0:11:41 | |
-..and her collection of work -that needs a home. | 0:11:41 | 0:11:45 | |
-And Alun Williams -attends the Welsh Dairy Show. | 0:11:45 | 0:11:48 | |
-There's plenty of the way -after the break. | 0:11:49 | 0:11:51 | |
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-Welcome back. | 0:12:05 | 0:12:07 | |
-Today, Carmarthen hosted -this year's Welsh Dairy Show. | 0:12:07 | 0:12:10 | |
-The annual event stages livestock -and the best Welsh dairy producers. | 0:12:10 | 0:12:15 | |
-You would never associate -Alun Williams with farming... | 0:12:15 | 0:12:18 | |
-..but today, he learnt more about -agriculture and dairy animals. | 0:12:18 | 0:12:22 | |
-It was an eye-opener for him! | 0:12:23 | 0:12:24 | |
-Welcome to the Welsh Dairy Show -at the Showground in Nantyci. | 0:12:26 | 0:12:31 | |
-I'm told that this is the Eisteddfod -of dairy cattle. | 0:12:32 | 0:12:36 | |
-In other words, the best cattle -from Wales come here to compete. | 0:12:36 | 0:12:42 | |
-But what makes a good dairy cow? | 0:12:42 | 0:12:46 | |
-I've got no idea and I even had -to borrow some wellies for today! | 0:12:46 | 0:12:51 | |
-I'm determined to find out -why this is such a popular event. | 0:12:52 | 0:12:56 | |
-Farmers have been preparing their -cattle for months for the big day. | 0:13:02 | 0:13:08 | |
-Five varieties are being exhibited -today and it's an honour to be here. | 0:13:08 | 0:13:14 | |
-The chairman, Lynn Davies, has been -here since the event first started. | 0:13:14 | 0:13:19 | |
-This show was established in 1989 -with only a small committee. | 0:13:20 | 0:13:27 | |
-It's developed into one of the -best one-day events in the country. | 0:13:27 | 0:13:36 | |
-All are welcome - both townies -and people from the country. | 0:13:36 | 0:13:40 | |
-Yes, there's something for everyone. | 0:13:40 | 0:13:44 | |
-This might be a stupid question -but that calf looks a bit pink. | 0:13:50 | 0:13:56 | |
-Is it meant to be pink? | 0:13:56 | 0:13:59 | |
-People ask that a lot but it's -been clipped closely to the skin. | 0:13:59 | 0:14:03 | |
-It's fur has been clipped -closely to the skin. | 0:14:03 | 0:14:07 | |
-Is that like the hair clippers? | 0:14:07 | 0:14:08 | |
-Is that like the hair clippers? - -Yes, that's right. | 0:14:08 | 0:14:11 | |
-There isn't a lot of fur -so it's very soft. | 0:14:11 | 0:14:14 | |
-We let the fur grow -and clip them before every show. | 0:14:14 | 0:14:20 | |
-I've learnt something new -in that conversation. | 0:14:20 | 0:14:24 | |
-What have you been doing here today, -Anwen? | 0:14:29 | 0:14:32 | |
-I'm exhibiting cattle from Gelli -Gatrog Farm in Carmarthenshire. | 0:14:32 | 0:14:37 | |
-And this is... um... -a cow, obviously! | 0:14:38 | 0:14:40 | |
-Does it have a name? | 0:14:41 | 0:14:42 | |
-Yes, it's Bolton Jingles. | 0:14:42 | 0:14:46 | |
-It's father was called Bolton -and Jingles was its mother. | 0:14:46 | 0:14:50 | |
-Oh, so that's a type of cow -but does it have a specific name? | 0:14:50 | 0:14:54 | |
-Yes, Bolton Jingles. | 0:14:54 | 0:14:57 | |
-Alright! | 0:14:57 | 0:14:59 | |
-It's dripping a lot -so is that normal? | 0:15:00 | 0:15:02 | |
-Yes, it's because -she's full of milk. | 0:15:03 | 0:15:06 | |
-Do you need someone to milk her? | 0:15:06 | 0:15:08 | |
-No, not after she's entered into -the class and then she's milked. | 0:15:08 | 0:15:12 | |
-Do you do any milking? | 0:15:12 | 0:15:13 | |
-Sometimes. | 0:15:13 | 0:15:16 | |
-Hello, Simon. | 0:15:19 | 0:15:21 | |
-What have you been doing here today? | 0:15:21 | 0:15:23 | |
-I've been exhibiting Holstein cattle -and had some heifers this morning. | 0:15:23 | 0:15:28 | |
-We won with our senior heifer -so I'm happy with that. | 0:15:28 | 0:15:33 | |
-My second, third and fourth calves -are competing this afternoon. | 0:15:33 | 0:15:37 | |
-Good luck! | 0:15:37 | 0:15:39 | |
-I'm a townie so do you think -I'm dressed appropriately? | 0:15:40 | 0:15:43 | |
-The wellies are fine but have some -leggings to help me wash the cattle. | 0:15:43 | 0:15:49 | |
-Why are they wet? | 0:15:49 | 0:15:52 | |
-It's after washing -the cattle earlier. | 0:15:52 | 0:15:55 | |
-Phew, I thought it was -something else! | 0:15:56 | 0:15:59 | |
-I've had a great time at the -Welsh Dairy Show and learnt a lot. | 0:16:00 | 0:16:05 | |
-I know the difference between -a Holstein Friesian and a Jersey... | 0:16:06 | 0:16:10 | |
-..so if you're looking -for a farmhand, then I'm your man! | 0:16:10 | 0:16:15 | |
-Isn't that right? | 0:16:15 | 0:16:17 | |
-Yes! | 0:16:17 | 0:16:20 | |
-And that was Alun's interpretation -of the Welsh Dairy Show! | 0:16:20 | 0:16:26 | |
-The presenter and actress, -Lara Catrin is my guest tonight. | 0:16:26 | 0:16:32 | |
-Lara has published a new book -called Llyfr Bach Paris. | 0:16:32 | 0:16:40 | |
-You've been back in Wales -for a year. | 0:16:40 | 0:16:46 | |
-You're from Y Felinheli. | 0:16:46 | 0:16:51 | |
-Yes, and I was offered a great job -when I got back. | 0:16:52 | 0:17:03 | |
-I'm presenting a great series. | 0:17:03 | 0:17:06 | |
-Tell us more about the programme. | 0:17:07 | 0:17:10 | |
-It's called Pwy Geith Y Gig? | 0:17:10 | 0:17:15 | |
-It's a series about forming a band. | 0:17:15 | 0:17:23 | |
-They get to work with some -of the greatest people... | 0:17:24 | 0:17:28 | |
-..in the music industry in Wales. | 0:17:28 | 0:17:33 | |
-We had four judges. | 0:17:33 | 0:17:37 | |
-They had to choose the finalists. | 0:17:38 | 0:17:46 | |
-They formed a band -from six finalists. | 0:17:46 | 0:17:55 | |
-The next series -is slightly different. | 0:17:56 | 0:18:00 | |
-We want to hear from anyone over 16. | 0:18:00 | 0:18:05 | |
-We want to hear from anyone under -16. | 0:18:05 | 0:18:07 | |
-They can enter the competition. | 0:18:08 | 0:18:10 | |
-The opportunity often arises for us -to promote a cause and tell a story. | 0:18:10 | 0:18:14 | |
-This is one of those opportunities. | 0:18:14 | 0:18:17 | |
-Ezzelina Jones was a talented -sculptor from Pontarddulais. | 0:18:17 | 0:18:20 | |
-Her work graced various galleries -during the late 20th century. | 0:18:21 | 0:18:25 | |
-She died in 2012 and her family aims -to safeguard the future of her work. | 0:18:25 | 0:18:30 | |
-They want to secure a home -at a suitable public establishment. | 0:18:30 | 0:18:34 | |
-Rhodri has the story. | 0:18:35 | 0:18:37 | |
-Ezzelina Gwenhwyfar Jones. | 0:18:40 | 0:18:42 | |
-It's a beautiful and unique name -for someone with a unique talent. | 0:18:43 | 0:18:46 | |
-Ezzelina is both exotic and unusual. | 0:18:46 | 0:18:49 | |
-Gwenhwyfar is Welsh and classic. | 0:18:49 | 0:18:52 | |
-Jones reflects the universality -of Welsh families and communities. | 0:18:53 | 0:18:58 | |
-The combination of the unusual, -the Welsh and the universal... | 0:18:58 | 0:19:02 | |
-..is reflected in the work -of this amazing sculptor. | 0:19:02 | 0:19:06 | |
-When I first saw the collection, -I was amazed by its size... | 0:19:08 | 0:19:12 | |
-..it's quality and the fact that it -is the work of a Pontarddulais lady. | 0:19:12 | 0:19:20 | |
-Few women in that era were artists -and even less were sculptors. | 0:19:21 | 0:19:31 | |
-In that sense, -Ezzelina has to be unique. | 0:19:31 | 0:19:35 | |
-She started as a painter -and was quite successful. | 0:19:36 | 0:19:40 | |
-She went to night school in Llanelli -and worked in charcoal. | 0:19:40 | 0:19:47 | |
-The head teacher saw her and said... | 0:19:47 | 0:19:51 | |
-.."you shouldn't be working with -paint or charcoal but in the round." | 0:19:51 | 0:19:57 | |
-He gave a her lump of clay -to take home. | 0:19:58 | 0:20:02 | |
-She burned the midnight oil -and had an eureka moment. | 0:20:02 | 0:20:07 | |
-I didn't know her under her -professional name of Ezzelina Jones. | 0:20:13 | 0:20:17 | |
-She was Aunty Gwen to me. | 0:20:17 | 0:20:21 | |
-The family influenced her work -with my Mam-gu and Dat-cu. | 0:20:22 | 0:20:28 | |
-I was two years old when Dat died. | 0:20:28 | 0:20:33 | |
-He survived the First World War and -I remember his sombre appearance. | 0:20:33 | 0:20:41 | |
-She's captured that in the sculpture -as it looks like it has suffered. | 0:20:42 | 0:20:47 | |
-There's all sorts of sculptures. | 0:20:49 | 0:20:52 | |
-We see the start of institutes -with men learning after work... | 0:20:53 | 0:20:57 | |
-..the gossiping women -that we have in every village... | 0:20:57 | 0:21:01 | |
-..and the Sunday best, -as my mother called them. | 0:21:01 | 0:21:07 | |
-As people walked to church, -they were stiff to show respect. | 0:21:07 | 0:21:17 | |
-This collection pays tribute -and chronicles a community and era. | 0:21:21 | 0:21:28 | |
-What would you like to see | 0:21:28 | 0:21:32 | |
-The family believe -that this is a story. | 0:21:32 | 0:21:38 | |
-I don't think you can separate -the various elements of a story. | 0:21:38 | 0:21:44 | |
-Ideally, it would be wonderful if -these pieces were in one place... | 0:21:44 | 0:21:51 | |
-..because they are separate pieces -but also belong together. | 0:21:52 | 0:21:58 | |
-There's wooden, ceramic -and bronze pieces. | 0:21:58 | 0:22:01 | |
-It's a valuable collection but the -problem comes in finding it a home. | 0:22:02 | 0:22:07 | |
-The ideal answer is for one museum -to take the whole collection... | 0:22:08 | 0:22:13 | |
-..in memory of Ezzelina Jones. | 0:22:14 | 0:22:17 | |
-I think it would be wonderful. | 0:22:17 | 0:22:21 | |
-I don't know if galleries and -museums think like that these days. | 0:22:21 | 0:22:31 | |
-I hope that anyone listening -to the programme... | 0:22:31 | 0:22:35 | |
-..can help us keep these pieces in -memory of Ezzelina Gwenhwyfar Jones. | 0:22:35 | 0:22:42 | |
-Our schools teach history -but it isn't the history of Wales. | 0:22:43 | 0:22:47 | |
-This is Welsh history -and it should be protected. | 0:22:48 | 0:22:53 | |
-If you work at a museum, library -or any establishment... | 0:23:00 | 0:23:05 | |
-..that can help safeguard -Ezzelina's collection... | 0:23:05 | 0:23:08 | |
-..contact us on Heno -via the details on the screen. | 0:23:08 | 0:23:11 | |
-It's certainly worth safeguarding. | 0:23:12 | 0:23:14 | |
-And thanks to Ezzelina's family -for sharing their story with us. | 0:23:15 | 0:23:18 | |
-The presenter and actress, -Lara Catrin has been my guest. | 0:23:19 | 0:23:24 | |
-Llyr Bach Paris -is the title of your debut novel. | 0:23:24 | 0:23:36 | |
-The cover has a photograph -of a girl. | 0:23:36 | 0:23:40 | |
-Yes, it's by my sister. | 0:23:41 | 0:23:47 | |
-She did all the illustrations -for the book too. | 0:23:47 | 0:23:50 | |
-It was great. | 0:23:51 | 0:24:00 | |
-Thanks to Dylan and Mared -at Gwasg Y Bwthyn Press... | 0:24:00 | 0:24:04 | |
-..for all their help. | 0:24:04 | 0:24:11 | |
-There's a launch on Thursday 3 -November at 7.00pm... | 0:24:12 | 0:24:15 | |
-..at Galeri, Caernarfon. | 0:24:15 | 0:24:17 | |
-Congratulations on your book. | 0:24:17 | 0:24:19 | |
-I'm sure there's more books to come! | 0:24:19 | 0:24:21 | |
-Tomorrow at 7.00pm, we celebrate -National Pumpkin Day at Cowbridge. | 0:24:21 | 0:24:25 | |
-We enjoy snooping around -Porthmadog's famous Kerfoots store. | 0:24:25 | 0:24:29 | |
-Luned Aaron also joins Angharad -to discuss her new children's book. | 0:24:29 | 0:24:33 | |
-Until tomorrow, goodbye. | 0:24:33 | 0:24:36 | |
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