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-Every picture tells a story. What

-is the story behind these pictures?

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-Will it be possible

-to organize a reunion...

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-..to retake the photo?

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-Tonight, the Caernarfon Woolworths

-St David's Day competition, 1990.

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-Where did they all go?

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-HARP PLAYS LAND OF MY FATHERS

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-Pool Street, Caernarfon.

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-On Saturday morning, shops in one

-of the town's busiest streets...

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-..are opening, ready for a new day.

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-But one shop will never

-open its doors again.

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-For Gwenda Toplis, Woolworths

-has been part of the family.

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-I remember working here years ago

-before I got married.

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-Many people have worked here.

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-Both my daughters worked here.

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-My sister worked here

-and her daughter.

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-My sister-in-law -

-that's where they met.

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-Many of my friends worked here...

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-..and their children too.

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-I've got lots of happy memories

-of the place - yes, indeed.

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-One of Gwenda's happy

-memories from the shop...

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-..is a photo of the St David's Day

-celebrations, almost 20 years ago.

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-I think it actually was March 1st,

-but I'm not sure.

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-We dressed up

-to do various things there...

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-..like collecting money for charity.

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-We wore costumes at Christmas too.

-We had fun doing things like that.

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-Since leaving Woolies,

-Gwenda has been busy.

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-I thought I'd stay

-at home for a while.

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-But I took over Y Gegin Fach.

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-I was there for 13 years.

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-Now, I go to Willow Hall

-for a day or two a week...

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-..to cook for the residents.

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-The cook remembers two other

-Woolworths workers in the photo...

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-..and that Welsh costume.

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-Gill, my friend,

-had dressed up like me.

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-Mr Griffin, as manager, joined us.

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-Mr Griffin wasn't

-one for dressing up.

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-He organized things and made

-sure that everyone else did.

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-He looked after the shop

-while we put on our costumes.

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-Dafydd Iwan

-is crouching at the front.

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-I don't know which school

-the girls came from.

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-So Gwenda has a lot to do to find

-two former Woolworths' workers...

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-..lots of girls in Welsh costume,

-not to mention Dafydd Iwan...

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-..and reunite everyone.

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-Probably the best place to start

-looking for one of the girls...

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-..is at a local primary school.

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-Hello.

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-Hello.

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-Hello.

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-How are you?

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-How are you?

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-Fine, how are you?

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-I'm looking for this girl.

-I've heard that she works here.

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-Oh!

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-Oh!

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-Do you know her?

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-She looks like Elen Medi.

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-She works here,

-but isn't here today.

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-Not here?

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-She's working at the cobbler's shop.

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-Right! I'll look for her there.

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-Fine. Good luck.

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-Fine. Good luck.

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-Thank you for your help.

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-You're welcome. Bye.

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-Maybe she'll be enlightened here.

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-I hope Elen will help me

-find out who the other girls are.

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-Hello.

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-Hello.

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-Hello. I wonder if you can help me?

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-I'll try my best.

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-I've been told you're this girl.

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-Where did you get this?

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-This is Elen.

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-The first time I saw the photo,

-I burst out giggling.

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-It was weird to think that something

-that feels like yesterday...

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-..was so many years ago.

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-Will you help me find out

-who these girls are?

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-Of course, no problem at all.

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-As I recall, it was a competition

-for the best costume.

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-I remember how proud I felt

-wearing it.

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-The costume has been

-in my family for almost 100 years.

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-The young mother of two

-lives in Caernarfon.

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-This is the first time

-her daughter has worn...

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-..her great-grandmother's costume.

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-..her great-grandmother's costume.

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-Careful.

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-I'm turning into you, Mam.

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-Careful!

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-The costume was

-my great-grandmother's.

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-Her husband, Rees Hughes,

-was Custodian of Caernarfon Castle.

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-When Edward VIII was

-invested as Prince of Wales...

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-..a choir was created in Caernarfon.

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-These were the choir's costumes.

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-Seeing Elin wear it brings

-a lump of pride to my throat.

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-Do you know anyone here?

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-Do you know anyone here?

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-I know Sarah.

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-Do you know anyone here?

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-She was a year younger in school.

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-I'm almost sure this is Jade.

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-Oh?

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-I don't know the other three.

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-Look!

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-It would be lovely to know where

-they are and hear their memories.

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-Lovely, great. Thank you.

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-Lovely, great. Thank you.

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-Thanks, Elen.

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-Thanks, Elen.

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-So Gwenda has found one of the

-girls and her truly Welsh costume.

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-And she's got help in her search.

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-But it will be a lot

-of work to find everyone.

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-Gwenda needs the local radio station

-to help publicize their reunion.

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-No problem - I'll make

-an appeal in the programme.

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-I hope you find them.

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-I hope you find them.

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-Right, thank you.

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-No problem.

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-While Gwenda gets help on the radio,

-Elen starts her search.

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-Maybe the Herald newspaper

-will have a few clues.

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-She looks familiar.

-I'm sure she's in the photo.

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-Gwennan Wyn Hughes.

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-Elen has to go to Porthmadog...

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-..and hopes to find the competition

-winner, with a bit of luck.

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-CAR RADIO

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-Were you present in the Caernarfon

-Woolworths as a little girl...

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-..wearing a Welsh costume,

-back in 1990?

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-Contact me at Champion 103.

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-But she's worried about

-finding the girl from Port.

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-I feel rather nervous

-about seeing Gwennan.

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-I don't remember much

-about the photo.

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-I'm afraid I won't recognize her -

-that she's changed over the years.

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-The answer is in the lingerie shop.

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-Will the deputy manager

-be able to reveal more?

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-Hello, how are you?

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-Hello, how are you?

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-How are you?

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-Fine, thanks.

-I hope you can help me.

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-I'll try my best.

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-I'll try my best.

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-I'm looking for this little girl.

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-It's me.

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-It's me.

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-It is?

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-This is Gwennan.

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-I'm there.

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-I'm there.

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-Oh, yes!

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-Do you remember anything about it?

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-Do you remember anything about it?

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-Not much. I was only 3 and a half.

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-I don't remember much,

-just walking around Caernarfon.

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-St David's Day is approaching,

-so we'd like to recreate the photo.

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-Can you come

-to the reunion on Saturday?

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-Yes, fine.

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-Fantastic. See you Saturday.

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-OK.

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-OK.

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-Thank you.

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-See you.

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-So the winner of the Welsh costume

-competition is on her way back...

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-..to Woolworths once more.

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-But for one of those

-who spent many years there...

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-..the search has made her feel

-nostalgic for a time gone by.

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-NEWS HEADLINES

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-After almost a century, Woolworths

-on the main street will disappear.

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-200 shops will close.

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-Almost 30,000 people

-will lose their jobs.

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-Gwenda wants to reminisce

-about the good old days.

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-It's nice to see everyone.

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-The Caernarfon shop employed

-almost 100 people at one time.

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-Gwenda and her former

-colleagues miss it.

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-It was a good crew.

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-It was a good crew.

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-Yes, marvellous.

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-Woolworths' doors were always open.

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-But now, there's nothing there.

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-It's sad to see it closed.

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-I hope something will replace it.

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-I hope something will replace it.

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-Yes.

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-I think...

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-It's a pity.

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-It's a pity.

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-Yes.

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-When I went by, I thought...

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-..about the time we worked there.

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-It's sad.

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-It's sad.

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-A lot of good memories.

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-But, on Pool Street,

-the search continues.

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-One famous singer made a big

-impression on Elen 20 years ago.

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-When he sang Elen O Elen,

-he kissed my cheek.

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-Jabas gave me a kiss too. I didn't

-wash my face for three days.

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-But Dafydd Iwan's

-kiss lasted longer.

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-And she has an idea

-where to find him.

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-How are you?

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-How are you?

-

-How are you?

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-Do you know this man?

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-That's me.

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-I seem to remember a competition

-and I had to judge...

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-..who had the best Welsh costume -

-something like that.

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-But will Dafydd know who was hiding

-under Fireman Sam's hat...

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-..and the Dragon, 20 years ago?

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-I'm not sure, it's so long ago.

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-I'm an old man now!

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-Who was dressed up as Fireman Sam?

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-I've got an idea,

-but I could never be sure.

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-I wouldn't dismiss

-these Welsh cliches.

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-It's important

-to have symbols like these.

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-Maybe we don't value

-the Welsh costume enough...

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-..whatever the truth is

-about its origins.

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-It's important to have symbols...

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-..these Welsh cliches...

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-..like the dragon,

-leek and daffodil.

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-The Welsh costume

-and tall hat are important.

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-We hope to have a reunion next week.

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-Can you come?

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-Can you come?

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-Fine!

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-A week Saturday?

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-A week Saturday?

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-Better check my little book.

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-A week Saturday?

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-A week Saturday?

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-Yes.

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-Any chance of a date with Dafydd?

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-Fine! The 7th?

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-Fine! The 7th?

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-Yes.

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-I'll be there. Nice to meet you.

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-You haven't changed at all!

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-Thank you!

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-# Elen, oh Elen, come back #

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-I've just seen Dafydd Iwan.

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-I got a kiss on this cheek!

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-When I was 11, I got a kiss here.

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-At 30, I got a kiss here.

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-That's it! So far, so good.

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-But there are still more to find.

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-Why are leeks on the menu?

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-Where are the other girls

-in Welsh costume?

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-The last house.

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-And who is hiding

-under Fireman Sam's helmet?

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-Gwenda and Elen are looking

-for former staff members...

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-..from Woolworths, Caernarfon

-and the girls in Welsh costume...

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-..who celebrated St David's Day

-there almost 20 years ago.

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-I'm Elen.

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-I'm Elen.

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-Some have been found...

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-..but there's still work

-to do to reunite everyone...

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-..at the Pic'n'mix shop

-to recreate the photo.

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-Twenty years after taking the photo,

-one of the girls in Welsh costume...

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-..knows how to aim high.

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-I work for the Active

-Young People team...

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-..as a 5x60 Officer.

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-My job is to do

-extra-curricular activities...

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-..and target children who

-don't already participate in sport.

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-At the moment, my job focuses on

-the Olympics in three years' time.

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-Everything is aimed towards that.

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-There's a bit of

-talent-spotting in my job too.

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-Jade herself isn't

-lacking in talent either.

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-I represented Wales.

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-I won the Welsh Schools Championship

-at the 100-metre breaststroke.

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-I was North Wales champion

-for six years running.

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-I was OK!

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-Although Jade has been

-a national champion...

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-..she's a home-loving girl.

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-I've always lived in Caernarfon.

-I'm thinking about moving house.

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-But I wouldn't leave Caernarfon.

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-I'm happy.

-There's a good community here.

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-The shop left an impression

-on her too.

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-Every Saturday, I'd go with friends

-to Caernarfon town centre.

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-We all went to Woolworths

-for the Pic'n'mix and new CDs.

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-That was the routine on Saturday -

-we'd go to town, to Woolworths...

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-..buy chips then go home!

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-I remember dressing up

-as a Welsh lady.

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-Mam said she had cut up

-an old dress to make a skirt.

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-I'm looking forward

-to seeing everyone else...

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-..especially the ones

-I don't know in the photo.

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-It'll be nice to see who

-they are and hear their stories.

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-And to see Dafydd Iwan again.

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-I wouldn't call myself a fan,

-but it'll be nice to meet him.

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-So Jade is going to jump at the

-opportunity to be in the photo!

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-But Elen still has work to do

-to find two more competitors...

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-..in their Welsh costumes that day.

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-Some people recognized Sarah...

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-..but they can't find

-the little girl with fair hair.

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-Only the local Cofis can help now!

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-Elen needs answers.

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-I've got no idea. Do you?

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-She looks like Alison,

-Helga's sister.

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-But she's not having much luck...

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-..so far.

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-The only one I can think of

-lives in that house.

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-Hello, you OK?

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-Hello, you OK?

-

-Hello. Yes.

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-I want to ask for your help, please.

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-Is there any information

-about the girl no-one knows?

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-It's definitely not Alison. No.

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-But if one is still missing,

-at least Elen has heard...

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-..where one other girl is.

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-I've been told that Jennifer,

-one girl in the photo, works here...

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-..at Ysgol Brynrefail.

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-I've come to see if she's free

-to recreate the photo Saturday.

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-I hope I'll find her.

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-She's preparing a really Welsh menu.

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-Hello, how are you?

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-I don't know if I'm

-in the right place.

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-I've got a photo here,

-and I hope you're in it.

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-That's me!

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-This is Jennifer.

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-It was a big shock

-when Elen walked in...

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-..when I was cooking with

-the girls. Everyone had a shock.

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-Seeing the old photo has

-brought back a lot of memories.

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-I remember the day well. An old lady

-that Mam knew lent me the costume.

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-I'm sure I got 3rd or 4th.

-It was a good day.

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-Jennifer works

-as a Cookery teacher now.

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-I moved when I was 7, so don't have

-much contact with anyone there now.

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-I'm looking forward to seeing

-everyone grown up, looking older.

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-I'm sure we'll have fun.

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-So the girl with

-the leeks will be there.

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-Gwenda doesn't have far to look...

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-..for the other Woolworths

-girl in the photo.

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-Gwenda and I were

-friends through work.

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-Gwenda left a little before me.

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-But we still see each other around.

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-Is this you?

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-Yes.

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-This is Gillian.

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-Do you know anyone else there?

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-Do you know anyone else there?

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-Mr Griffin.

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-You.

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-Mr Griffin did most

-of the work really.

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-He was very good at bringing

-the community into work.

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-He would say straightaway,

-"We'll take part.

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-"I'll give you some of my girls."

-That sort of thing.

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-I remember dressing up, but not why.

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-It looks like a competition.

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-Saturday was usually full,

-a family day, everyone came in...

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-..or if it was a holiday.

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-We got to know customers quite well.

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-Do you recognize me in the photo?

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-Is that you?

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-Is that you?

-

-Yes.

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-Gillian is the mother of Lowri and

-she is expecting her second baby.

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-I've got a little less than 2 weeks

-to go now. It's really countdown.

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-You know her?

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-You know her?

-

-Yes, Gwenda from Caffi Gwenda.

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-Yes.

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-Yes.

-

-Why is Fireman Sam there?

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-I left because my daughter

-had leukaemia when she was two.

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-I left at that time.

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-After she finished her treatment,

-I began a course in Child Care.

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-Why did only you and Gwenda,

-Caffi Gwenda, do that?

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-I don't know.

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-Either we were the only ones silly

-enough to do it, or we were good.

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-Like models, maybe. I don't know!

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-So, baby permitting, Gillian will

-take her place in the photo again.

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-One person in the photo was central

-to celebrating St David's Day.

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-On the day the photograph

-was taken...

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-..I remember the store

-seemed very, very busy.

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-Standing at the back

-of the photo was Mr Griffin...

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-..the former manager

-of Woolworths, Caernarfon.

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-He was chiefly responsible for the

-Welsh costume competition that day.

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-It seemed literally

-like hundreds of children.

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-And a very good atmosphere. Some

-of the girls made some bara brith.

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-We decorated the cash desk

-with daffodils.

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-It was a competition

-and everyone had made the effort.

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-He retired from the shop

-in Caernarfon almost six years ago.

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-Although he continues

-to work to earn a living...

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-..working in Woolies

-was more than just a job for him.

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-It's very sad,

-the demise of the company...

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-..and all these people lost

-their jobs - they were good times.

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-A lot of camaraderie,

-with many good friends.

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-You go your separate ways...

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-..but it's still nice

-to see them and greet them.

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-Very fond memories.

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-But the final farewell

-to Woolworths wasn't easy.

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-I went in and said hello

-to two or three people...

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-..and shook them by the hand.

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-And disappeared pretty quickly.

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-The big day has arrived.

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-After the searching, Elen hopes

-the 1990 St David's Day crew...

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-..will return to

-Woolworths, Caernarfon.

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-Hello, Elen.

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-Hello, Elen.

-

-How are you, Gwenda?

0:20:050:20:06

-We're OK.

0:20:060:20:08

-I'm looking forward to seeing

-the little girls in the photo...

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-..and seeing them grown up.

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-Hello, how are you?

0:20:170:20:18

-Hello, how are you?

-

-The dragon's come too!

0:20:180:20:19

-How are you, Jade?

0:20:210:20:22

-How are you, Jade?

-

-Fine, thanks.

0:20:220:20:24

-Jade, is it?

0:20:240:20:24

-Jade, is it?

-

-Yes.

0:20:240:20:25

-You were the little girl

-in the front? Great.

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-And which one were you?

0:20:290:20:30

-And which one were you?

-

-Gwennan.

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-Gwennan!

0:20:310:20:32

-Gwennan!

-

-The smallest one.

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-Even the original dragon

-from 1990 has made it back!

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-Hello!

0:20:380:20:39

-This is the first time most have

-seen each other since the photo...

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-..was taken almost 20 years ago.

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-It's been a long time.

0:20:450:20:46

-It's been a long time.

-

-Many years!

0:20:460:20:48

-Although two girls

-still haven't been found...

0:20:480:20:52

-..at least there's a reply from one.

0:20:520:20:53

-..at least there's a reply from one.

-

-Hiya, how are you?

0:20:530:20:54

-But Sarah can't come.

0:20:550:20:57

-But one who has come

-is the former Woolworths manager.

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-Hello, how are you?

0:21:010:21:02

-Hello, how are you?

-

-How are you doing, Gwenda, alright?

0:21:020:21:03

-Yes, nice to see you.

0:21:030:21:04

-Yes, nice to see you.

-

-Nice to see you.

0:21:040:21:05

-How are you?

0:21:050:21:06

-How are you?

-

-I'm Elen.

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-These are the young

-ladies that were in the...

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-Yes.

0:21:100:21:11

-I've got to say, I'm very sorry,

-I don't recognize you!

0:21:110:21:14

-Jolly good.

0:21:150:21:16

-The day brings back

-memories to Mr Griffin.

0:21:160:21:19

-To take the photo,

-a photographer is needed.

0:21:200:21:23

-Nigel Hughes was also

-there 20 years ago.

0:21:230:21:26

-To be honest, I don't remember much.

0:21:260:21:28

-Over the years,

-I've taken thousands of photos.

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-Once I saw it, I knew I'd taken it.

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-Are Fireman Sam

-or the Dragon are coming?

0:21:340:21:36

-I don't know.

0:21:370:21:38

-I don't know.

-

-We didn't go after them.

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-No!

0:21:390:21:40

-No!

-

-LAUGHTER

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-Because we couldn't see

-their faces, I think.

0:21:410:21:45

-Around the corner, two ladies

-are very keen to surprise...

0:21:450:21:49

-..some of the old shop crew.

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-They worked in the Caernarfon

-Woolworths for many years.

0:21:510:21:55

-Turn round.

0:21:560:21:56

-Turn round.

-

-They're ready to cause a stir.

0:21:560:21:58

-When they see us arrive

-and take off the silly hats...

0:21:580:22:03

-..they'll say,

-"I thought it was you!

0:22:030:22:07

-"It would be the two naughty ones!"

0:22:070:22:09

-It'll be nice to be back together,

-some of the staff from years ago.

0:22:090:22:13

-I'll suffocate in this!

0:22:140:22:15

-I'll suffocate in this!

-

-They are hot, aren't they?

0:22:150:22:17

-LAUGHTER

0:22:170:22:18

-Elen and Gwenda's search

-was successful.

0:22:190:22:21

-The Caernarfon Woolworths

-crew is back.

0:22:220:22:25

-It'll be nice to recreate the photo.

0:22:250:22:27

-We won't all be in the same

-costumes - we've grown a bit!

0:22:270:22:32

-And there won't be an opportunity

-to go into Woolworths again.

0:22:320:22:36

-Unfortunately, we weren't able

-to get a key to go in...

0:22:360:22:39

-..to take the photo - although

-we knew exactly where to stand.

0:22:390:22:42

-If you remember, girls,

-we were just in the far corner.

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-Yes!

0:22:460:22:46

-Yes!

-

-By the lift.

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-The original photographer is ready.

0:22:470:22:50

-Goodness, aren't you pretty!

0:22:510:22:52

-Goodness, aren't you pretty!

-

-LAUGHTER

0:22:520:22:54

-Familiar faces are congregating.

0:22:540:22:57

-There we are!

0:22:580:22:59

-Not quite. These two characters

-have to take their place.

0:23:000:23:03

-LAUGHTER

0:23:040:23:06

-And as a final note...

0:23:060:23:08

-Hello!

0:23:080:23:09

-Hello!

-

-Dafydd is here.

0:23:090:23:10

-Still here, after all these years?

0:23:100:23:12

-Still here, after all these years?

-

-We haven't moved!

0:23:120:23:14

-Move to the side a little.

0:23:140:23:16

-While the photographer

-organizes things...

0:23:160:23:20

-..everyone wants to know

-who is behind the masks.

0:23:200:23:23

-CHEERS

0:23:240:23:25

-Shirley and Carol worked for more

-than 50 years between them...

0:23:250:23:29

-..at Woolworths, Caernarfon.

0:23:290:23:31

-The same crew are back

-at the same location.

0:23:330:23:35

-The little girls are young women.

0:23:360:23:38

-Some of the children

-are mothers themselves.

0:23:390:23:41

-And although the shop

-has closed for ever...

0:23:410:23:44

-..for one moment, the Caernarfon

-Woolworths St David's Day crew...

0:23:450:23:48

-..are back together.

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-..are back together.

-

-After three - 1, 2, 3!

0:23:490:23:51

-It was great to see everyone and

-hear their memories about the day.

0:23:580:24:02

-It was quite moving today...

0:24:060:24:07

-..especially when we all

-walked up to Woolworths.

0:24:070:24:10

-It brought many memories back.

0:24:100:24:13

-Everyone has grown up

-with Woolworths.

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-It was a place

-where everyone felt at home.

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-# This land belongs to you and me #

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-Join in!

0:24:290:24:30

-# This land is my land #

0:24:300:24:33

-After today, we're going

-to meet up more often.

0:24:330:24:38

-A part of Caernarfon has gone

-with the shop, unfortunately.

0:24:380:24:42

-But happy or sad,

-there's character here.

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-In Caernarfon, it's St David's Day

-every day of the year.

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-# From Anglesey to Monmouth

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-# This land belongs

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-# To you and me #

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-CHEERS

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