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-I'm Daniel Glyn.

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-I'm interviewing

-Hollywood star Ioan Gruffudd...

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-..at a hotel outside Newport.

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-The secret of a successful interview

-is to blend in...

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-..and avoid drawing attention.

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-Ioan was taking part in

-a pro-celebrity golf tournament...

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-..with some of my footballing heroes

-- Alwyn Hansen and Benny Dalglish.

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-Like everyone else pitchside,

-I didn't want to miss a second.

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-But I had an interview to do.

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-Ioan's career has taken him all

-the way to Hollywood from Cwmderi...

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-..so I began by asking him

-what it was like...

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-..appearing on a national soap opera

-at such a young age.

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-It wasn't the coolest thing

-in the world.

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-When I got the job

-in Pobol Y Cwm as a teenager...

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-..people started saying...

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-.."He's found his way in because

-his dad's the bloody deputy..."

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-That kind of thing.

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-Likewise if I was given

-a good mark for a Welsh essay.

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-I remember sitting

-in a Welsh lesson in sixth form.

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-The teacher said, "You've

-three weeks to write an essay...

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-"..four sides long,

-on a subject of your choice."

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-I didn't do it.

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-I remember sitting at home and

-writing about a page and a half...

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-..thinking it was great,

-it didn't need any more.

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-I thought it'd placate

-my Welsh teacher.

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-But she read it aloud in class

-as an example.

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-I felt so proud, sitting there.

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-One of my classmates

-whispered to another...

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-.."He's had help at home."

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-Never mind about all that because

-I'm sure it's helped your career.

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-It's not just about

-your acting skills.

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-Your ability to be places on time

-and learning your lines also count.

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-Without a doubt.

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-Poor Mam and Dad couldn't get me out

-of bed in time for school at nine...

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-..and I lived three quarters

-of a mile from Glantaf.

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-Embarrassing.

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-But for Pobol Y Cwm,

-I'd be there at 6.00am on the dot.

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-I walked to the studio

-in the wind and rain.

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-I had no trouble getting up.

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-I loved it.

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-You're right, in terms of getting up

-and being there on time...

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-..and knowing my lines...

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-..it was

-an unforgettable experience.

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-It's stayed with me to this day.

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-Huw Ceredig, who played your father,

-was something of a mentor to you.

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-Yes, he played my father

-in Pobol Y Cwm...

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-..and I was

-in the soap for seven years.

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-The majority of my scenes

-were with him.

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-He was the first person

-to take me under his wing...

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-..and give me encouragement.

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-He introduced me

-to the acting world...

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-..as a professional actor...

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-..and introduced me

-to the social life.

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-He was a colourful character.

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-He was larger than life.

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-He was the leader on set.

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-Everyone looked up to Huw.

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-Huw was the don, as it were.

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-Both on and off set.

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-Although I was underage,

-many a drunken night...

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-..was spent with Huw Ceredig...

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-..and the rest of the cast.

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-I also went on tour

-with the Cwmderi football team.

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-We went around the country

-playing against young farmers...

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-..or local fire brigades

-to raise money for local charities.

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-We'd stay in B&Bs

-and have lock-ins in pubs.

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-There I was,

-a wide-eyed 16-year-old...

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-..experiencing

-the social life of an actor.

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-You were in college at RADA.

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-Did you enjoy the experience?

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-What happened to me at RADA...

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-..was this.

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-I had already acted.

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-I knew I wasn't a fantastic actor...

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-..but I knew I had talent.

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-I enjoyed it

-and was paid for my acting.

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-But RADA completely threw me.

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-I loved the singing,

-dancing, fencing...

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-..stage combat,

-voice and movement lessons.

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-I spent three years learning

-a wide range of different skills...

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-..as a stage actor.

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-But what I wasn't very good at...

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-..according to the teacher...

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-..was acting.

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-Everything I did was wrong.

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-I hit some very low points

-while I was in college.

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-I wanted to leave.

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-My dream had been shattered.

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-"I can't do it, I can't hack it.

-Everything's wrong."

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-I told my parents I wanted to leave.

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-Dad said, "Do yourself a favour.

-You won't regret it.

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-"Just finish the course

-and if you still hate acting...

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-"..make your decision then."

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-So I finished the course...

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-..and during the final play in the

-final term, my confidence returned.

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-A night called

-the Tree Evening was held...

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-..in which you acted for

-four minutes in front of agents.

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-I did two duologues

-instead of two monologues.

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-One of them

-was Translations by Brian Friel.

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-I played the British officer.

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-I wore a red tunic, frilly shirt...

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-..a pair of boots and pantaloons.

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-The agents said, "He looks great

-in a period costume."

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-I went straight into a pilot

-for Poldark.

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-I found an agent and

-the casting director had seen me...

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-..and I got the job within

-three weeks of leaving college.

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-From what I can see, you seem

-to pick and choose your roles.

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-Do you have a plan?

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-I'm at

-an interesting point in my life...

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-..because I don't look...

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-I'm turning 40 soon.

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-I'm in a period of transition

-at the moment.

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-I can't play someone

-who's 30 any more on camera.

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-Maybe a 35-year-old, at a push.

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-It's a period of transition

-and it's difficult.

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-I'm auditioning for parts...

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-..but I'm not

-getting them at the moment.

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-I go to dozens of auditions.

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-Your confidence takes a knock...

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-..especially when you

-have to provide for your family.

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-I have to pay for Ella's schooling,

-healthcare and childcare.

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-Unfortunately, I'm shouldering

-all that responsibility...

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-..going into these auditions,

-which is the worst thing you can do.

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-You don't want to appear desperate!

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-I've been working

-with a psychologist...

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-..to try and overcome this...

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-..in order to feel more at ease...

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-..and carefree,

-like I don't really care.

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-It's been a big help.

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-But what's interesting

-at the moment...

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-..is that I'm invited

-to be a guest star in something...

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-..on a weekly basis, which is great.

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-People still regard me

-as a leading man...

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-..and an interesting actor...

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-..but in my own mind,

-there's an element of insecurity.

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-After playing

-the superhero Mr Fantastic...

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-..in Fantastic Four,

-Ioan accepts invitations...

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-..to events

-such as the Dallas Comic Con...

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-..to join Spiderman,

-Superman and Captain America.

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-The Comic Con is very different

-from the Eisteddfod.

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-It's more like the Royal Welsh.

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-It's more like the Royal Welsh.

-

-Let me see your weapon.

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-Raise 'em right.

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-She went,

-"They were warm two hours ago."

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-By the time we arrived, Ioan was

-wooing the crowd in a Q&A session.

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-Everyone else had dressed like

-their favourite sci-fi characters.

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-They say you should always

-let the Wookiee win.

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-Oh, he has.

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-I failed to convince the crowd that

-I was the famous Welsh superhero...

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-..Capten Chwyslyd (Captain Sweaty).

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-Then I remembered I'd brought

-my Harry Potter disguise.

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-I needed a quiet place

-in which to conduct the interview.

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-We're hiding from the crowds.

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-Being the geek that I am,

-I've enjoyed today.

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-Why did you decide to attend

-the Comic Con as Mr Fantastic?

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-To be honest,

-I didn't know what to expect...

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-..when I attended the first

-Comic Con in Knoxville, Tennessee...

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-..called Adventure Con.

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-It was held in a hall

-a quarter the size of this.

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-It was a little bit sad,

-to some extent.

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-Do you remember that scene in

-The Wrestler right at the start...

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-..when about three people

-ask for his autograph?

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-It was

-a little bit like that for me.

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-I was sitting

-next to John Bernthal...

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-..who appeared in the first series

-of Walking Dead.

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-He signed autographs all weekend.

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-He made a small fortune

-that weekend.

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-It's been interesting

-because since then...

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-..my name...

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-..or the Ioan Gruffudd brand,

-as it were...

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-..has been out there

-because people have been tweeting...

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-..and talking about the convention.

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-On IMDB, my ranking has gone

-from being in the thousands...

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-..to the hundreds now...

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-..because

-I've turned out to meet the fans.

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-Nice to meet you.

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-Nice to meet you.

-

-Nice to meet you too.

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-I know you're a candid person,

-perhaps a little too candid...

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-..and it's got you

-into trouble with your fans.

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-I've a story to tell you,

-but it may be a little long-winded.

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-A small group of women

-created The Ladies Of The Forum...

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-..to honour Horatio Hornblower.

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-That was their title.

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-They held an annual convention...

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-..and the 20 or so of them would

-get together somewhere in America.

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-It grew in popularity

-and by the third convention...

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-..they held the event in London

-on Hornblower's ship...

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-..that was moored

-in St Catherine's Dock.

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-I was invited to attend

-but I didn't want to go.

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-One night, I was sitting

-in my flat in London...

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-..around 11.00pm at night...

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-..when there was

-a knock at the door.

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-Two American women

-were standing there.

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-"Hi, Ioan, we've come over

-for the convention...

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-"..and we just wanted

-to say hi and..."

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-"How did you know I was here?"

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-"I work for American Airlines

-and I got your address...

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-"..so I just thought I'd come.

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-"We just wanted to see you."

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-Instead of saying, "Would you mind

-leaving, you crazy women?"...

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-..I said, "Welcome. Come in.

-Would you like a cup of tea?"

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-I had no milk, so I went out

-and left them in the house.

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-I came back

-and they didn't want tea.

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-All I had to offer them

-was orange squash.

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-Matthew and I

-lived together at the time.

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-I'd mentioned the flat we'd bought

-together in numerous interviews.

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-They remembered the article

-in Esquire Magazine or whatever.

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-"Oh, yes, there's the blow-up sofas

-you bought on the Kilburn high road.

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-"There's the TV

-and the box still..."

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-They knew everything about us.

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-Anyway, the following night,

-I went along to the convention.

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-I phoned a few Hornblower mates

-and we decided to turn up.

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-Interestingly, the fact

-I was there in the flesh...

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-..shattered the illusion

-and the mystique for most of them.

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-They weren't at all euphoric

-that I'd turned up.

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-They were like,

-"Oh, there's Ioan."

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-I shattered the illusion for them

-by showing up.

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-You're attending today

-as Mr Fantastic.

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-I want to know

-how you came to be Mr Fantastic.

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-They didn't

-just phone you up right away?

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-No. I went for the audition.

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-That was early on in the process.

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-Months beforehand, in fact.

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-I told them,

-"I'm not going to do the audition...

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-"..because I'm not ready.

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-"I need more time to prepare."

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-Dr Reed Richards had a long speech

-in the script they sent me...

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-..which I had to prepare for.

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-I wasn't

-going to be ready in time...

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-..so I postponed the audition

-for about a fortnight.

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-When I eventually went for the

-first audition, I was ready for it.

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-I was all over it.

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-They were very keen

-for the role to be mine...

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-..but nobody knew

-who the hell I was.

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-I remember hearing a conversation

-between the executives at Fox...

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-..and the people who were

-going to make the decision.

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-"Who the hell is this guy?

-We can't even say his name."

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-Just by being in the right place

-at the right time...

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-..there were posters for

-the King Arthur movie everywhere.

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-Jerry Bruckheimer from Disney

-had spent a fortune on posters...

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-..promoting King Arthur.

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-"Who's this guy? Who's this guy

-I'm gonna cast in this part?"

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-"It's that guy there next to

-Clive Owen and Keira Knightley."

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-"I love that guy!"

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-So it was purely by accident

-that my face was on the poster...

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-..next to Clive Owen

-and Keira Knightley.

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-So I got the part.

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-It was a very drawn-out process.

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-I didn't think I had much chance...

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-..because he was a quintessentially

-American character...

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-..from the 1960s comics.

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-People had an idea

-of who should play the part...

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-..but it was a Welshman from Cardiff

-who landed the role.

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-He's very American.

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-I'm well aware

-that there's a lot of envy...

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-..in this industry.

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-The Americans must've gone nuts.

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-Interestingly, when we

-were introduced to the fans...

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-..in the San Diego Comic Con, the

-biggest convention in the world...

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-..as well as a sensory overload...

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-..they introduced us one by one.

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-Please welcome to the stage

-Chris Evans as Johnny Storm.

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-Everyone was cheering.

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-Please welcome

-Michael Chiklis from The Shield.

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-Yay!

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-Ladies and gentlemen,

-please welcome Ioan Gruffudd...

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-..who's going to play Mr Fantastic.

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-I started speaking

-in my normal accent...

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-..and people were thinking,

-'They've cast a bloody Englishman...

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-'..to play this role.'

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-They were devastated.

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-Thank goodness

-Jessica Alba was last.

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-Please welcome Jessica Alba.

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-But to begin with, it was like,

-"What the hell have they done?"

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-I really felt at the time...

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-..because of the reaction...

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-..that they were

-going to recast the part.

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-You got to experience

-the opening weekend...

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-..and not many actors

-get that chance.

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-What was it like

-and did you enjoy it at the time?

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-I loved it.

-It was a fantastic experience.

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-I remember getting up

-on the Saturday morning...

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-..because a film opens on a Friday

-night domestically in America.

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-I was up early

-because I was very nervous.

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-Box office figures on the

-opening weekend are so important...

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-..in terms of any film's success.

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-The phone rang

-at eight o'clock in the morning.

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-It was Tom Rothman, 20th

-Century Fox's Chief Executive...

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-..saying, "Congratulations,

-the film's going to be a success.

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-"We're going to make 60-70 million

-on the opening weekend.

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-"The film's a hit."

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-It was an unbelievable phone call.

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-I knew

-there'd definitely be a sequel.

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-The film had been warmly received

-by the fans right across America.

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-We went all over the world

-promoting the film.

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-We went to Japan, Australia,

-all over Europe.

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-I got to enjoy my first trip

-on board a private jet.

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-Our feet didn't touch the ground

-during the promotional tour.

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-Did you appreciate it at the time?

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-Did you think, 'I won't get used to

-this, I'm just going to enjoy it'?

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-I learnt very early on, I might

-have already mentioned this...

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-..but when I got the role

-of Jeremy Poldark in Poldark...

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-..it was a pilot

-which was to become a series.

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-Poldark was an incredibly

-popular series back in the 1970s.

0:19:290:19:34

-When I got the pilot,

-I thought, 'This is it.

0:19:340:19:39

-'I'm going to be Jeremy Poldark.

-It's going to be huge.'

0:19:390:19:43

-The pilot wasn't shown for a year

-and no series was commissioned.

0:19:430:19:47

-I learnt at 21 years of age

-to expect nothing.

0:19:470:19:52

-Nothing.

0:19:520:19:54

-It was a valuable lesson.

0:19:540:19:56

-When Fantastic Four came about...

0:19:560:19:59

-..I was going to enjoy

-every second of it.

0:19:590:20:03

-I never take anything for granted.

0:20:030:20:05

-I never take anything for granted

-until the film's in the bag.

0:20:050:20:10

-People say, "I've got the job."

0:20:100:20:12

-But I say,

-"Wait until you're on set first"...

0:20:120:20:16

-..or, "Wait until you've been paid.

0:20:160:20:18

-"Wait until

-the film's been released."

0:20:180:20:21

-Hope for the best

-but expect nothing.

0:20:210:20:26

-That's always been my mantra.

0:20:270:20:29

-I'd love it to happen again...

0:20:290:20:31

-..but if it doesn't, I've had

-a taste of what it's like...

0:20:310:20:35

-..to be a worldwide star...

0:20:360:20:37

-..for a short time, at least,

-and it was bloody amazing.

0:20:380:20:41

-Here's a tip - if you ever want

-to hold an interview in peace...

0:20:450:20:49

-..you know who to call.

0:20:490:20:50

-..you know who to call.

-

-Thanks for having us.

0:20:500:20:52

-I really appreciate it.

-Thank you for being so generous.

0:20:530:20:56

-Thank you, young man.

-What's your name?

0:20:570:20:59

-Dorian.

0:21:000:21:01

-Dorian.

-

-Dorian, I'm Ioan.

0:21:010:21:03

-Things weren't ideal

-at the Comic Con.

0:21:030:21:05

-That's the worst Batman

-in the world.

0:21:120:21:14

-This is the worst R2-D2

-I've ever seen.

0:21:150:21:17

-Up to now,

-I'd managed to avoid security.

0:21:220:21:24

-But it was obvious my time at the

-Dallas Comic Con would end abruptly.

0:21:250:21:30

-I was thrown out by a Sith.

0:21:300:21:32

-After the Comic Con, Ioan

-was returning home to Hollywood...

0:21:430:21:48

-..and whether he liked it or not,

-I was hot on his heels.

0:21:480:21:52

-.

0:21:580:21:58

-Subtitles

0:21:590:21:59

-Subtitles

-

-Subtitles

0:21:590:22:01

-Los Angeles is a difficult place

-to film an interview.

0:22:020:22:06

-Capitol Records refused,

-Chateau Marmont refused.

0:22:060:22:10

-The Beverly Hills Hotel refused.

0:22:110:22:13

-Even the beach refused.

0:22:140:22:16

-We decided to film on the balcony

-of the motel I was staying at...

0:22:160:22:21

-..since we'd already paid for it.

0:22:210:22:24

-There's nothing worse than being

-messed about by a prima donna...

0:22:240:22:28

-..who keeps you waiting,

-and this was no exception.

0:22:290:22:32

-12 years ago in an interview,

-you said you'd never move to LA.

0:22:390:22:44

-That changed.

0:22:450:22:46

-You didn't move here temporarily,

-it's become your home.

0:22:460:22:50

-When was that fateful moment...

0:22:510:22:53

-..when you decided

-to move to Los Angeles?

0:22:530:22:56

-If I'm honest about it...

0:22:570:23:00

-..I think it stems from...

0:23:000:23:03

-..being brought up....

0:23:030:23:07

-..in that Welsh-language culture

-that exists in Cardiff...

0:23:070:23:13

-..or in the Welsh-language

-tradition of Wales.

0:23:130:23:18

-I'd say very idealistic things.

0:23:180:23:23

-That I was going to live in Wales.

0:23:240:23:26

-That I

-was going to marry a Welsh woman.

0:23:260:23:29

-That I wasn't going to marry

-an English woman.

0:23:330:23:37

-I've actually said something

-as radical as that.

0:23:370:23:40

-It was part

-of our upbringing in Wales...

0:23:410:23:45

-..like going to

-a Welsh-medium school and so on.

0:23:450:23:48

-Subconsciously, I didn't know

-why I was saying these things.

0:23:480:23:53

-I wasn't comfortable saying them.

0:23:530:23:55

-They were things

-perhaps I felt I should be saying...

0:23:560:24:00

-..out of respect

-for where I'd come from.

0:24:000:24:03

-I'm being completely honest here.

0:24:030:24:05

-When it came to the point...

0:24:060:24:10

-..of making the decision

-to come out here...

0:24:100:24:14

-..and be part of this world...

0:24:140:24:16

-..it was a kind of rite of passage.

0:24:170:24:20

-I'd been in the public eye

-from age 11 onwards.

0:24:200:24:23

-After the success of Hornblower

-and coming out here to do Titanic...

0:24:230:24:28

-..I was still saying these things...

0:24:290:24:31

-..but I knew

-I wasn't being honest with myself.

0:24:310:24:34

-I thought, 'Ioan, you're not being

-honest with yourself.

0:24:350:24:39

-'You don't really think this way.

0:24:390:24:41

-'You're saying things

-to please the nation or whoever.'

0:24:410:24:47

-But I took

-a good look at myself in the mirror.

0:24:470:24:50

-I want to be an international actor.

0:24:500:24:53

-I want to be part

-of the Hollywood scene.

0:24:530:24:56

-I also realized

-that there are people...

0:24:560:25:00

-..who make sweeping statements...

0:25:000:25:03

-..in terms of going to Hollywood...

0:25:030:25:06

-..but they don't

-fully commit themselves.

0:25:060:25:09

-I thought,

-if I'm going to Hollywood...

0:25:090:25:13

-..and that's what I truly want...

0:25:130:25:16

-..then no-one

-can take that away from me.

0:25:160:25:19

-No-one can ever say that I've come

-back with my tail between my legs.

0:25:190:25:25

-It was my decision

-and I expressed it publicly.

0:25:250:25:30

-I was open about it

-and it was very empowering.

0:25:300:25:33

-I haven't looked back.

0:25:330:25:35

-It was a turning point

-in my career and my life.

0:25:350:25:40

-It's been the best thing I've done.

0:25:420:25:44

-There were many

-cult characters in Comic Con...

0:25:450:25:48

-..but you became involved

-with a real cult.

0:25:480:25:51

-Yes, I did.

0:25:510:25:53

-It all happened during

-that rite-of-passage stage.

0:25:530:25:57

-I was living in London

-in those early years.

0:25:570:26:01

-Religion

-was something I had issues with.

0:26:020:26:06

-One day I came out of college...

0:26:060:26:10

-..and a boy on the street

-asked me for the time.

0:26:100:26:15

-I told him and then he asked me if

-I fancied going to chapel on Sunday.

0:26:160:26:21

-I thought,

-'This is some kind of sign.'

0:26:210:26:24

-I was unhappy at the time in London.

0:26:240:26:27

-I was vulnerable

-and I wasn't enjoying the course.

0:26:280:26:31

-I thought it might've been

-a turning point.

0:26:310:26:37

-So I went along.

0:26:370:26:40

-It was sort of like...

0:26:440:26:47

-..an American church service.

0:26:470:26:51

-Happy-clappy, very positive...

0:26:510:26:54

-..but not at all scary.

0:26:540:26:56

-There were people from all kinds

-of backgrounds, ages and families.

0:26:560:27:02

-It was incredibly positive.

0:27:020:27:04

-It was quite infectious.

0:27:040:27:06

-I was asked

-at the end of the service...

0:27:070:27:09

-..if I'd like to join them

-for Bible studies.

0:27:100:27:13

-I said,

-"OK, that sounds interesting."

0:27:130:27:16

-So we went to McDonald's

-for Bible studies.

0:27:160:27:19

-Just the male members.

0:27:190:27:21

-I should've realized

-at that point...

0:27:220:27:25

-..but that's when

-I started to question...

0:27:250:27:30

-..whether or not I was Christian.

0:27:300:27:32

-I thought I was because

-I'd gone to chapel all my life.

0:27:330:27:36

-I could recite chunks

-from the Bible.

0:27:360:27:40

-"But do you do this?," they asked.

0:27:400:27:43

-I said I didn't think I did it

-literally but I did it spiritually.

0:27:430:27:48

-"Well, would you do this then?

0:27:480:27:51

-"If you don't,

-then you're not a Christian."

0:27:510:27:55

-They went on to prove

-what the Bible said.

0:27:550:27:58

-A huge shift took place.

0:27:580:28:01

-I went from losing my faith

-and questioning everything...

0:28:010:28:05

-..and I was quite vulnerable

-at the time, as it was.

0:28:050:28:09

-But instead of shying away,

-I embraced it...

0:28:100:28:13

-..and became further involved...

0:28:140:28:16

-..attending more and more meetings.

0:28:160:28:19

-They'd got hold of me by then.

-I wanted to learn more.

0:28:190:28:24

-The meetings

-only involved the brothers.

0:28:240:28:28

-There were no women at all.

0:28:280:28:31

-They started saying,

-"Where do you live in London?"

0:28:310:28:35

-"I live in a flat

-with two other actors."

0:28:350:28:38

-"You'll have to

-move out of the flat.

0:28:380:28:41

-"What are you

-working on in college?"

0:28:410:28:44

-"A few scenes

-where I have to kiss a girl."

0:28:440:28:46

-"You can't kiss her.

-Someone will have to chaperone you.

0:28:470:28:50

-"You have to dedicate

-your life completely."

0:28:510:28:56

-At the same time,

-it sounds scary...

0:28:560:29:01

-..but they were so positive

-about the whole thing.

0:29:010:29:05

-I thought this is

-what it must've been like...

0:29:050:29:08

-..being one of the 12 disciples.

0:29:080:29:11

-The energy was infectious.

0:29:110:29:15

-At that point...

0:29:150:29:17

-..Matthew and my other housemate,

-Bill, were worried sick about me.

0:29:180:29:22

-The next stage

-was to baptize me into the chapel...

0:29:220:29:28

-..called the

-London Church of Christ.

0:29:290:29:31

-That weekend, Mam came to London...

0:29:340:29:39

-..and basically said,

-"What the heck's wrong with you?"

0:29:400:29:44

-But I think

-I'd come to that conclusion myself.

0:29:440:29:48

-This was the crux of the matter.

0:29:480:29:50

-I had to pay a tithe to the chapel.

0:29:500:29:55

-I'd heard about such a thing...

0:29:550:29:58

-..but I didn't think

-it was essential.

0:29:590:30:02

-I was still

-working on Pobol Y Cwm at the time.

0:30:020:30:05

-I was going back

-during the summer holidays.

0:30:060:30:09

-Along with my parents' support,

-it helped fund my college life.

0:30:090:30:14

-I didn't think it was right.

0:30:140:30:17

-So, being

-the little miser that I am...

0:30:170:30:20

-..it was my wake-up call.

0:30:200:30:22

-Moments later,

-we were asked to leave the motel.

0:30:220:30:26

-But not because we were filming.

0:30:260:30:29

-We had to relocate the interview...

0:30:320:30:35

-..so I searched the area

-and ended up getting lost.

0:30:350:30:38

-I could've been anywhere.

0:30:390:30:41

-Well, this is a perfection location

-in which to film.

0:30:440:30:50

-It's the garden of our co-ordinator

-here in Los Angeles, Will.

0:30:500:30:54

-And here it is.

0:30:540:30:58

-At what age did you

-land the role of Hornblower?

0:30:590:31:02

-I think I was 21, about to turn 22.

0:31:020:31:06

-You were just a boy.

0:31:060:31:09

-Yes, I looked very young

-at the time too.

0:31:090:31:13

-I was young

-in terms of life experiences too.

0:31:130:31:16

-Landing such a role...

0:31:160:31:19

-..could've easily gone to your head.

0:31:190:31:22

-Did you ever go off the rails?

0:31:220:31:23

-Did you ever go off the rails?

-

-There was one time in London.

0:31:230:31:25

-I'd been to a students' reunion.

0:31:260:31:31

-I was at the Strand...

0:31:310:31:35

-..and for some reason, I was

-walking out of the nightclub...

0:31:350:31:40

-..and we took a photo of ourselves

-in one of those photo booths...

0:31:410:31:46

-..and as we walked out...

0:31:460:31:49

-..I just saw red.

0:31:490:31:51

-I decided to run down the street

-shouting, "Freedom!"...

0:31:520:31:57

-..like Mel Gibson in Braveheart.

0:31:580:32:01

-I caught hold

-of a road sweeper's brush.

0:32:010:32:06

-There was a brush, a shovel

-and a wheelbarrow nearby...

0:32:060:32:11

-..and I picked up the brush and ran

-towards a lamppost on the Strand.

0:32:110:32:16

-I whacked the brush

-against the lamppost...

0:32:170:32:20

-..as if I were killing someone

-in some epic battle...

0:32:200:32:25

-..but the brush's head

-swung around the lamppost...

0:32:250:32:29

-..came back towards me,

-flew behind me...

0:32:290:32:32

-..and smashed the Royal Bank

-of Scotland's window on the Strand.

0:32:320:32:36

-How ironic!

0:32:370:32:39

-I broke into a panic

-like a little cry-baby...

0:32:400:32:43

-..worrying that there were

-video cameras everywhere.

0:32:430:32:47

-I was halfway down the Strand

-and the boys ran away laughing.

0:32:470:32:52

-I was panicking so much

-that I went back.

0:32:520:32:55

-I thought,

-'My fingerprints are on the brush.'

0:32:550:32:58

-So I went back

-to the scene of the crime...

0:32:590:33:01

-..picked up the brush,

-ran over Waterloo Bridge...

0:33:020:33:07

-..and threw the brush

-into the Thames.

0:33:070:33:09

-On the cab journey home,

-the boys were going...

0:33:100:33:13

-.."His dabs are all over the drum,

-he's gonna do time for this."

0:33:130:33:17

-I was sobbing like a bloody child.

0:33:180:33:20

-That's the only outrageous

-and stupid thing I've done...

0:33:200:33:25

-..though I'm not proud to admit it.

0:33:260:33:28

-I doubt many people

-will have much sympathy for a bank.

0:33:290:33:32

-No, not in Britain.

-They'd be pleased.

0:33:330:33:36

-You're not just an actor,

-you're a leading man.

0:33:360:33:40

-There's a different skill set

-required for that.

0:33:410:33:44

-How would you describe the process?

0:33:440:33:48

-The characters I've played

-are similar to myself...

0:33:490:33:52

-..rather than the characters

-a character actor would play.

0:33:530:33:57

-I don't know.

0:34:000:34:02

-Whichever character I play,

-my appearance and attitude...

0:34:020:34:08

-..help to create...

0:34:080:34:13

-..characters

-who are open, trustworthy...

0:34:130:34:17

-..and heroic, for some reason.

0:34:170:34:20

-I love playing

-those sorts of characters.

0:34:200:34:23

-Perhaps because I have

-quite an open face and eyes...

0:34:230:34:29

-..it'd be difficult

-to play a convincing villain...

0:34:290:34:33

-..or a character

-other than the leading man.

0:34:330:34:39

-It'd be difficult for me...

0:34:390:34:43

-..to play

-some kind of down-and-out...

0:34:430:34:47

-..an unpleasant character...

0:34:470:34:50

-..or someone very normal.

0:34:500:34:53

-There's something larger than life

-about the main character in a film.

0:34:530:34:59

-All my acting heroes

-are leading men.

0:34:590:35:01

-I'd love to play roles like that.

0:35:020:35:05

-.

0:35:090:35:09

-Subtitles

0:35:130:35:13

-Subtitles

-

-Subtitles

0:35:130:35:15

-This town

-is known to create beasts...

0:35:170:35:21

-..in the movie world.

0:35:220:35:24

-Mentioning no names, what's the

-worst behaviour you've witnessed?

0:35:240:35:29

-If there's

-a weakness there to begin with...

0:35:300:35:33

-..in someone's character...

0:35:330:35:36

-..I'd say that success...

0:35:360:35:38

-..exacerbates that flaw.

0:35:400:35:43

-It makes it a hundred times worse.

0:35:430:35:47

-If you're a miserable character

-or you're a nasty person...

0:35:470:35:51

-..success is

-going to make you even nastier.

0:35:510:35:55

-If you're a nice, likeable person...

0:35:550:35:58

-..who's easy to approach...

0:35:590:36:01

-..success makes you even more

-approachable and nicer to people.

0:36:010:36:07

-Take Tom Hanks for instance.

0:36:070:36:10

-He's one of

-the nicest people you could meet.

0:36:100:36:14

-Steven Spielberg is another.

0:36:140:36:16

-Anyone successful,

-if they're nice to begin with...

0:36:160:36:20

-..success makes them nicer

-and vice versa.

0:36:200:36:23

-One of the lessons

-I learnt early on...

0:36:230:36:26

-..is that every transaction

-with a person in your life...

0:36:270:36:30

-..especially in our industry...

0:36:310:36:33

-..you have to make it

-a positive transaction...

0:36:340:36:37

-..because goodness knows when that

-person'll come back into your life.

0:36:370:36:42

-The lad who brings

-your breakfast to your trailer...

0:36:420:36:46

-..or the one who carries your bag...

0:36:460:36:49

-..in seven years' time,

-he'll be producing something...

0:36:490:36:53

-..and you'll be auditioning for him.

0:36:530:36:56

-It's important to treat people

-as you'd like to be treated.

0:36:560:36:59

-You'd have thought...

0:36:590:37:03

-..in terms of our industry...

0:37:030:37:08

-..that it wouldn't be the men

-who created the biggest problems.

0:37:090:37:15

-It's the actors who've caused me the

-biggest problems, not the actresses.

0:37:150:37:20

-The actors I've come across...

0:37:200:37:23

-..have been miserable and nasty...

0:37:260:37:29

-..and very insecure.

0:37:290:37:31

-They've been

-very awkward to work with.

0:37:340:37:37

-The men have been the hardest

-to deal with, for some reason.

0:37:370:37:42

-I'm sure I've pissed people off

-over the years.

0:37:420:37:45

-But for me,

-it's all do with concentrating.

0:37:450:37:50

-We're all there to achieve

-what we've set out to achieve...

0:37:510:37:55

-..and I lose my temper

-if someone plays around.

0:37:550:37:59

-I get angry at those

-who don't concentrate.

0:37:590:38:02

-It's hard when people

-don't take their work seriously...

0:38:020:38:06

-..or if they take the piss out of me

-in terms of the hours I put in.

0:38:060:38:11

-You have to fight your own corner

-because no-one will do it for you.

0:38:110:38:16

-You represent yourself as a

-professional and as the character.

0:38:160:38:20

-As an artist, you need the skills

-to communicate with the director...

0:38:210:38:25

-..and as a professional actor, you

-must communicate with the producer.

0:38:260:38:30

-That's not easy.

0:38:300:38:32

-I've learnt from experience...

0:38:330:38:35

-..since I've worked in the industry

-from a young age.

0:38:350:38:39

-But it's the male actors

-who've been the most awkward of all.

0:38:390:38:43

-My daughter

-is familiar with your work.

0:38:430:38:46

-Her favourite is 102 Dalmatians.

0:38:470:38:49

-In terms of your career,

-I think it was an important role.

0:38:490:38:54

-It was a wonderful experience too.

0:38:540:38:56

-Talking about awkward actors...

0:38:560:39:00

-..they say you should never work

-with children or animals...

0:39:000:39:04

-..but every morning, I'd be warmly

-greeted by the animals, by the dogs.

0:39:050:39:09

-They loved seeing you because they

-knew they'd be playing all day...

0:39:100:39:14

-..performing the skills

-they'd learnt...

0:39:150:39:17

-..and be rewarded

-with a biscuit or a piece of meat.

0:39:180:39:21

-They'd be overjoyed to see you.

0:39:210:39:24

-I never got fed up of that.

0:39:240:39:26

-I also met Alice on set.

0:39:260:39:29

-I was living in London

-at the time...

0:39:290:39:32

-..and she was living in Paris.

0:39:330:39:35

-It was an incredible experience.

0:39:350:39:37

-It was five months worth of work,

-so half a year's work...

0:39:380:39:42

-..and the film

-was a roaring success worldwide.

0:39:420:39:46

-We travelled all over the world

-promoting the film.

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-The film was launched in New York.

0:39:500:39:54

-We had a big premiere in London.

0:39:540:39:56

-We went all around Europe

-and it was great.

0:39:560:39:59

-I read an interview of yours when

-you started going out with Alice.

0:40:000:40:04

-In your own words, she thought

-you were a wanker to begin with.

0:40:040:40:09

-Why did she think that and

-what did you do to change her mind?

0:40:090:40:14

-If I'm being honest...

0:40:140:40:17

-..I think at the time...

0:40:170:40:20

-..if there was a phase...

0:40:200:40:22

-We talked earlier

-about that period...

0:40:220:40:27

-..where I gave up

-on those perceived ideals...

0:40:270:40:33

-..of who I thought I was

-and where I'd come from...

0:40:340:40:37

-..and it was a form

-of late rebellion.

0:40:380:40:41

-I was single...

0:40:450:40:47

-..I'd just finished

-a successful series, Hornblower...

0:40:480:40:52

-..and was living

-in a bachelor pad in London.

0:40:520:40:56

-I was going out...

0:40:560:40:58

-..with one of

-the Appleton sisters at the time.

0:41:000:41:03

-I was living the rock'n'roll life.

0:41:030:41:06

-If I did come across...

0:41:080:41:11

-Your own words.

0:41:110:41:13

-Your own words.

-

-..as a wanker...

0:41:130:41:15

-..then fair enough, I probably was.

0:41:150:41:19

-It was odd because that was

-one of the first few times...

0:41:200:41:24

-..that I was being invited...

0:41:240:41:27

-..to parties or events...

0:41:270:41:31

-..as a celebrity.

0:41:340:41:37

-I got to meet all these people

-I'd admired over the years.

0:41:370:41:41

-I started to feel

-part of this world.

0:41:410:41:44

-I soon learnt after the first party.

0:41:450:41:48

-I was under the impression...

0:41:480:41:51

-..that I was

-going to get something out of it.

0:41:520:41:55

-But after the first party...

0:41:550:41:58

-..I found out

-it wasn't tangible at all.

0:41:580:42:01

-Whatever it was I was searching for

-or wanted to be part of...

0:42:010:42:05

-..it didn't exist.

0:42:050:42:07

-It was very disappointing.

0:42:070:42:09

-I realized it was nothing to do

-with being famous...

0:42:090:42:13

-..or being friends with famous

-people or being in the right crowd.

0:42:130:42:18

-There are

-more important things in life.

0:42:180:42:21

-It doesn't exist. It's intangible.

0:42:210:42:24

-As a young 25-year-old,

-or whatever age I was...

0:42:240:42:29

-..I learnt another valuable lesson

-about this industry.

0:42:300:42:34

-I learnt a lot

-from my early success.

0:42:340:42:39

-If I had turned into a wanker...

0:42:390:42:41

-..then it was a phase I was going

-through, and I remember it well.

0:42:410:42:46

-I had so much fun.

0:42:460:42:49

-But I met Alice on the film set...

0:42:490:42:51

-..and everything changed.

0:42:510:42:53

-We all know the feeling

-when we fall in love.

0:42:560:42:59

-I was subconsciously

-putting myself in situations...

0:43:000:43:04

-..just because

-I wanted to be near her.

0:43:040:43:06

-And thank goodness for that.

0:43:070:43:09

-I think

-she saved my life, to be honest.

0:43:090:43:12

-I could've gone the other way.

0:43:120:43:15

-At least for a time.

0:43:150:43:18

-I met her on the film...

0:43:180:43:21

-..and it was

-at the beginning of my success...

0:43:210:43:25

-..and I think she helped steer me...

0:43:250:43:29

-..in the right direction.

0:43:290:43:33

-I think it's important

-to talk about Titanic...

0:43:340:43:37

-..because it wasn't Leonardo

-DiCaprio who rescued Kate Winslet...

0:43:380:43:42

-..but your character.

0:43:420:43:44

-If it were up to Leonardo DiCaprio,

-she would've died.

0:43:440:43:48

-What was it like working on Titanic?

0:43:490:43:52

-There was

-something very magical about it.

0:43:520:43:55

-I knew instantly

-that it would be magical.

0:43:560:43:58

-I was experiencing things

-for the first time.

0:43:580:44:02

-Flying to America, flying to Mexico

-for the first time...

0:44:020:44:06

-..meeting all these actors, working

-with DiCaprio and Kate Winslet.

0:44:060:44:11

-They were about to become

-the world's biggest movie stars.

0:44:110:44:15

-It was great

-because I felt part of it all.

0:44:150:44:18

-I felt as if I was

-a bona fide member of the crew.

0:44:180:44:23

-I was going through the same process

-as Leo and Kate were going through.

0:44:240:44:30

-I felt very confident

-coming off that film.

0:44:300:44:34

-I knew I was cut out to be an actor

-and I knew how to act.

0:44:360:44:39

-The process I was going through

-was the same as theirs...

0:44:390:44:43

-..it's just

-that the camera loved those two.

0:44:430:44:47

-Not that

-I'm comparing myself to them...

0:44:470:44:50

-..because

-they're in a different league.

0:44:500:44:53

-But it gave me the confidence to

-know this is what I should be doing.

0:44:540:44:58

-I should be in front of the camera

-as a leading man.

0:44:590:45:02

-The role I was given straight after

-filming Titanic was Hornblower.

0:45:030:45:08

-The audition

-with the director was interesting.

0:45:080:45:13

-He said, "Come in, come in, come in.

-Tell me something about yourself.

0:45:140:45:18

-"What have you done

-in the last three months?

0:45:190:45:22

-"Please, whatever you do,

-don't talk about acting.

0:45:220:45:25

-"I hate actors

-talking about their last jobs."

0:45:260:45:29

-I thought, 'I've just come off

-the biggest film ever made...

0:45:290:45:33

-'..about

-the most famous ship ever...

0:45:330:45:38

-'..directed by

-the respected Terminator director.'

0:45:380:45:44

-I was auditioning

-for the part of a character...

0:45:440:45:47

-..who lived and breathed

-on a ship.

0:45:470:45:50

-I said, "Actually, I've just

-come off the set of Titanic.

0:45:500:45:54

-"I think

-you might be interested to know."

0:45:550:45:58

-So we spoke about Titanic then.

0:45:580:46:00

-We had a long chat...

0:46:000:46:02

-..about the process Cameron

-went through to create Titanic.

0:46:020:46:07

-If ever there was a time

-to be honest with a director...

0:46:070:46:11

-..who didn't want to talk about

-an actor's experiences...

0:46:110:46:16

-..that was the time to do it.

0:46:160:46:19

-You're approaching

-your 40th birthday.

0:46:190:46:22

-Are you ready for it?

0:46:230:46:25

-In terms of the future,

-I'm quite excited about it.

0:46:250:46:28

-As we know,

-in terms of Hollywood's history...

0:46:290:46:32

-..the leading man

-usually hits his stride at 40.

0:46:320:46:39

-Harrison Ford

-was discovered in his thirties.

0:46:420:46:48

-I'm very excited.

0:46:480:46:51

-The older a man gets in Hollywood...

0:46:510:46:53

-..the better he becomes,

-like a good wine.

0:46:540:46:57

-You've an opportunity to play

-a leading man for the next 20 years.

0:46:570:47:01

-I hope to goodness

-I'll grow into the role gracefully.

0:47:010:47:07

-I enjoyed meeting Ioan Gruffudd

-but it was time to say goodbye.

0:47:140:47:18

-In fact, Ioan insisted.

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