Prosiect: Ed Holden (Mr Phormula)

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-HELICOPTER BLADES WHIR	0:00:04	0:00:06
-A dodgy pub in Brixton.	0:00:08	0:00:10
-Home of -the British Beatbox Championships.	0:00:10	0:00:13
-People travelled -from all over London.	0:00:13	0:00:16
-One Welshman came from Llanfrothen.	0:00:16	0:00:18
-There he is, -Mr Phormula, or Ed Holden.	0:00:19	0:00:22
-I'm Daniel Glyn.	0:00:24	0:00:26
-Everyone else had hip hop names. -Mr Phormula, Hobbit, Slizzer.	0:00:26	0:00:30
-I wanted my own hip hop name -so that I'd fit in.	0:00:30	0:00:33
-I looked for inspiration - -something to sum up my personality.	0:00:33	0:00:37
-I fancied something Spanish -but lacked a muse.	0:00:37	0:00:40
-I headed back -to interview Ed Holden.	0:00:41	0:00:43
-You're here -for the beatbox contest...	0:00:44	0:00:46
-..but why did you decide -to enter in the first place?	0:00:46	0:00:51
-In terms of my national profile...	0:00:51	0:00:55
-..I'm obviously -the only beatboxer in Wales.	0:00:55	0:00:58
-I feel like -no-one else is going to represent...	0:00:59	0:01:03
-..so I'll do it.	0:01:03	0:01:05
-It's something -that'll help my business too.	0:01:06	0:01:09
-It raises the standard -and it's another notch on the belt.	0:01:09	0:01:13
-I know for definite I won't win...	0:01:13	0:01:17
-..but it doesn't matter, I've got -through to the top 40 in Britain.	0:01:17	0:01:22
-That in itself is -something that'll help my business.	0:01:22	0:01:26
-It looks good on my CV -and leads to other things.	0:01:26	0:01:29
-I've got a gig in London -out of it tonight.	0:01:29	0:01:32
-It's just a no-brainer, really...	0:01:32	0:01:36
-..for someone like me, -who runs his own business.	0:01:36	0:01:40
-I know that Londoners -think everyone from Wales is a hick.	0:01:40	0:01:44
-Coming from North Wales, -you're a double hick.	0:01:44	0:01:48
-What do -other beatboxers think of you?	0:01:48	0:01:51
-When we started -the preliminary session earlier...	0:01:51	0:01:54
-..the compere said, "Who comes -from Scotland?" A couple of people.	0:01:55	0:01:59
-"Who comes from Ireland?" A couple.	0:02:00	0:02:02
-"Who comes from -the Midlands?" No-one.	0:02:02	0:02:05
-"Who comes from...?" -I can't remember where. No-one.	0:02:05	0:02:08
-"Who comes from London?" Everyone!	0:02:08	0:02:11
-I thought, come on, mate, -Wales is a country in its own right.	0:02:11	0:02:16
-I was about to shout out -but I didn't.	0:02:16	0:02:19
-I should've, though.	0:02:19	0:02:21
-I'd have made my presence felt then.	0:02:21	0:02:24
-But I didn't.	0:02:24	0:02:26
-You call yourself a workhorse and -you obviously enjoy what you do...	0:02:26	0:02:30
-..but it's hard work.	0:02:30	0:02:32
-Are you the only -full-time beatboxer in Britain?	0:02:33	0:02:36
-I'd say... The thing is...	0:02:36	0:02:38
-..there's beatboxing -and then there's someone with drive.	0:02:39	0:02:43
-Those are two different things.	0:02:43	0:02:45
-You need that mix -to make a success of your career.	0:02:45	0:02:49
-Personally, I may not be -as good as the other beatboxers...	0:02:49	0:02:54
-..but I've certainly got drive.	0:02:55	0:02:57
-Nothing holds me back.	0:02:57	0:02:59
-If I want to do something, -in terms of work, I do it.	0:02:59	0:03:03
-I make sure -I get paid adequately too.	0:03:03	0:03:05
-A lot of beatboxers -say this and that, and that's great.	0:03:05	0:03:10
-They're much better than me too.	0:03:10	0:03:12
-But if you don't have the drive -to nurture your talent...	0:03:13	0:03:16
-..and you don't see -the bigger picture...	0:03:17	0:03:19
-..then -you're not going to get very far.	0:03:20	0:03:22
-Out of all the competitors...	0:03:23	0:03:25
-..I'd say I'm the only one -who makes a living from beatboxing.	0:03:25	0:03:29
-At the end of the day, there's -nothing else I can do with my life.	0:03:29	0:03:33
-I couldn't quit -and do something else.	0:03:34	0:03:37
-I'd be mad to do that because I've -worked so hard from the age of 14...	0:03:37	0:03:42
-..to get where I am today, -the only way is up.	0:03:42	0:03:45
-I just feel I have to roll with it.	0:03:45	0:03:48
-It's the only thing in life -that I'm really good at.	0:03:48	0:03:52
-I do it -because I've nothing to lose.	0:03:52	0:03:55
-I make a living from beatboxing, -so I've nothing to prove.	0:03:55	0:04:00
-With only minutes to go -before Ed takes centre stage...	0:04:00	0:04:04
-..the audience -was focused on the competition.	0:04:04	0:04:08
-As the seconds ticked by, -everybody was busy rehearsing.	0:04:10	0:04:13
-There was plenty of spit. -They were all at it.	0:04:14	0:04:16
-MC Zani, -Stig of the Dump, Reeps One....	0:04:17	0:04:19
-..not forgetting El Pen Ol.	0:04:20	0:04:22
-RAPS / BEATBOXES	0:04:27	0:04:29
-Better finish there because the -feedback's about to kill my mind.	0:04:56	0:05:00
-That scat's shit, -know what I'm saying?	0:05:00	0:05:03
-That's it. That's me done.	0:05:03	0:05:06
-As Ed's accent shifts -from American to Northwalian...	0:05:06	0:05:10
-..it was time to shift from -Brixton to the National Eisteddfod.	0:05:10	0:05:14
-You can always measure the -language's strength and culture...	0:05:14	0:05:18
-..by visiting the Eisteddfod.	0:05:18	0:05:20
-Ed is a key figure in making Welsh -culture appeal to young people.	0:05:20	0:05:24
-Cage fighting with Mr Urdd, -workshops with Ed.	0:05:24	0:05:28
-I'd like to stress -that it says a 'rap' workshop.	0:05:28	0:05:31
-I went to fetch Mr Phormula -from Llandyrnog village hall.	0:05:31	0:05:35
-Ed was rehearsing a track...	0:05:35	0:05:37
-..tracing the history -of the Welsh music scene...	0:05:37	0:05:41
-..with guitarist Peredur ap Gwynedd.	0:05:41	0:05:44
-# Draenog Marw by Crysbas #	0:05:44	0:05:47
-A few hours -before the performance...	0:05:57	0:06:00
-..Ed was happy to escape to -the countryside to be interviewed.	0:06:00	0:06:04
-HIP HOP MUSIC	0:06:04	0:06:06
-I know that you regularly -hold workshops at the Eisteddfod.	0:06:25	0:06:30
-Did you compete -when you were younger?	0:06:30	0:06:33
-No, never. I was completely -against the Welsh language.	0:06:34	0:06:38
-I didn't speak it.	0:06:38	0:06:40
-There was nothing about the Welsh -language that sparked my interest.	0:06:40	0:06:45
-I was like, -"The Welsh language? Is that it?"	0:06:45	0:06:48
-All we saw were traditional things.	0:06:49	0:06:51
-At school, it was the complete -opposite to what I was doing.	0:06:51	0:06:56
-I was listening to rap music, -DJ'ing with my friends...	0:06:56	0:07:00
-..and learning to beatbox.	0:07:00	0:07:02
-The Welsh language -offered nothing like that.	0:07:02	0:07:05
-For me and -the environment I'd grown up in...	0:07:05	0:07:09
-..speaking Welsh -wasn't the thing to do.	0:07:09	0:07:12
-I was totally against it.	0:07:12	0:07:14
-I went out of my way -not to speak it at school.	0:07:15	0:07:18
-It was really odd.	0:07:18	0:07:20
-As I got older, I left school...	0:07:21	0:07:23
-..and started college.	0:07:24	0:07:26
-It was there that I realized -the importance of being bilingual.	0:07:26	0:07:30
-I don't think -many people realize it.	0:07:31	0:07:33
-It may be why I do what I do because -I see myself in a lot of youngsters.	0:07:33	0:07:38
-I can see that some young people -don't speak Welsh...	0:07:38	0:07:42
-..because it's not cool.	0:07:42	0:07:44
-But anything will sound cool -if you believe it sounds cool.	0:07:44	0:07:48
-If you think it's going to sound -crap, it's going to sound crap...	0:07:48	0:07:52
-..no matter what language it's in.	0:07:52	0:07:55
-You can watch someone rapping in -French and tell if they're good...	0:07:55	0:07:59
-..without understanding them.	0:08:00	0:08:02
-It's an important message -for the new generation.	0:08:02	0:08:05
-What happened to change your view?	0:08:06	0:08:08
-Why am I now speaking Welsh to -the only beatboxer who can mutate?	0:08:08	0:08:13
-Music saved the Welsh language -in me.	0:08:14	0:08:17
-That's one way of putting it.	0:08:17	0:08:19
-At school, I wasn't bothered -about speaking Welsh.	0:08:19	0:08:23
-Once I left school -and started college...	0:08:24	0:08:28
-..I met Aron Elias.	0:08:28	0:08:31
-That's when my relationship -with the Welsh language started.	0:08:32	0:08:36
-I clicked with Aron straightaway.	0:08:37	0:08:39
-He was into rap and so on, he -played the guitar and was in a band.	0:08:39	0:08:44
-I was DJ'ing and beatboxing.	0:08:44	0:08:46
-I made a connection -right away with Aron.	0:08:46	0:08:49
-I remember him saying...	0:08:49	0:08:51
-.."Take this tape.	0:08:52	0:08:53
-"It's a little project I'm in, -if you want to have a listen."	0:08:54	0:08:58
-I said, "Yes, I'll have a scan" -in English. "I'll have a look."	0:08:59	0:09:03
-I remember the tape. -It said Mwyafrif (Majority) on it.	0:09:03	0:09:07
-I said, "I hope this isn't in Welsh. -I don't want to be in a Welsh band."	0:09:07	0:09:12
-I remember -sitting in my parent's lounge...	0:09:12	0:09:15
-..and I'd set up the hi-fi -under the television at the time.	0:09:15	0:09:19
-I'd hung speakers on the wall -in every corner of the lounge...	0:09:20	0:09:25
-..for Mam to watch films and for me -to listen to music when she was out.	0:09:25	0:09:30
-Sorry, Mam!	0:09:30	0:09:32
-I remember putting the tape in -and the song started.	0:09:32	0:09:36
-I liked the beat and then -Aron started rapping in Welsh.	0:09:36	0:09:40
-I was like, whoa, hang on a minute, -I have to stop this.	0:09:40	0:09:44
-So I stopped it...	0:09:44	0:09:46
-..and I thought it was something -I could identify with...	0:09:46	0:09:51
-..but it was in Welsh.	0:09:51	0:09:53
-I thought, I've got to rewind that -and listen to that again.	0:09:53	0:09:57
-I rewound it, -and by the end of the night...	0:09:57	0:10:01
-..I thought, -I can do that, I can speak Welsh.	0:10:01	0:10:04
-I can do that, I can rap -in two languages if I want.	0:10:04	0:10:08
-From that point on...	0:10:08	0:10:12
-..I showed -far more interest in the language.	0:10:12	0:10:15
-Music got me into the language.	0:10:15	0:10:18
-Something modern -was happening in the language.	0:10:18	0:10:21
-You've worked with Pep Le Pew, Genod -Droog, y Diwygiad, Llwybr Llaethog.	0:10:21	0:10:26
-You've worked with lots of people -but you haven't lasted long...	0:10:26	0:10:31
-..in any band, so why's that?	0:10:31	0:10:33
-Bands just naturally come to an end.	0:10:33	0:10:36
-It's not as if -I turn up with a whip and go...	0:10:36	0:10:39
-.."Grow up, lads! If we don't finish -this, I'll kick your heads in!"	0:10:39	0:10:45
-It's nothing like that.	0:10:45	0:10:47
-You know yourself -that in the Welsh music scene...	0:10:47	0:10:51
-..every band reaches a point...	0:10:51	0:10:53
-..where they're headlining -the major gigs, like Maes B...	0:10:53	0:10:59
-..Sesiwn Fawr, which I know -doesn't happen any more...	0:10:59	0:11:03
-..but once you've headlined -major events, you've done it all.	0:11:03	0:11:08
-You have to take a step back -and make a choice.	0:11:08	0:11:11
-You can either happily carry on -doing the same thing...	0:11:12	0:11:16
-..or you turn to English...	0:11:16	0:11:18
-..and make a go of it -outside of Wales.	0:11:18	0:11:21
-It's just so happens -every band I've been in...	0:11:21	0:11:25
-..we've reached that point -and then split up.	0:11:25	0:11:28
-That's the way it goes. -It's the nature of the game.	0:11:28	0:11:32
-You use your mouth -to create the sounds, pedals...	0:11:32	0:11:37
-..and all the gadgets.	0:11:38	0:11:40
-I know you like working alone.	0:11:40	0:11:42
-Is it because you're a control freak -or because it makes life easier?	0:11:43	0:11:47
-No, not really.	0:11:47	0:11:49
-I just love technology.	0:11:49	0:11:52
-I get frustrated sometimes -because I can only create...	0:11:54	0:11:58
-Beatboxing is like a sketch.	0:11:58	0:12:02
-You create a beat with your mouth.	0:12:02	0:12:05
-It's not about how well -you can recreate that beat...	0:12:05	0:12:09
-..it's still going to be a sketch.	0:12:09	0:12:11
-I get frustrated because -I want to do more than a sketch.	0:12:12	0:12:15
-I want to create a song -where someone says...	0:12:16	0:12:19
-.."That's coming out of his mouth!"	0:12:19	0:12:22
-The only way -I can do that is with technology.	0:12:22	0:12:25
-Technology allows me to do that.	0:12:25	0:12:27
-I love using new gadgets...	0:12:27	0:12:31
-..and machines.	0:12:31	0:12:33
-I love pushing my voice to -the absolute limit of what I can do.	0:12:34	0:12:39
-Even if that means -I'll need five pedals...	0:12:39	0:12:42
-..and every pedal has to be -on a different setting...	0:12:42	0:12:46
-..to make that noise, -then I'll write it down...	0:12:46	0:12:49
-..and remember it by heart.	0:12:50	0:12:52
-When I'm gigging, I think, -right, I'll drop that sound.	0:12:52	0:12:56
-Bang-bang-bang-bang, -cush-bwoarr-bwoarr!	0:12:56	0:12:59
-It's a great feeling because -you've made that noise come alive.	0:12:59	0:13:03
-You've taken it out of the studio...	0:13:04	0:13:06
-..and put it -into that performing element.	0:13:06	0:13:09
-That gives me a buzz. -It's the buzz that keeps me going.	0:13:10	0:13:13
-I noticed your laptop -and keyboards in the car.	0:13:13	0:13:16
-Are they for making music? -Do you write songs in the car?	0:13:17	0:13:21
-Yes.	0:13:21	0:13:22
-Yes. - -Between gigs and between jobs?	0:13:22	0:13:24
-Everywhere.	0:13:24	0:13:26
-I had an hour spare -this afternoon...	0:13:26	0:13:29
-..so I got in the van -and worked on an idea on my Mac.	0:13:29	0:13:33
-60% of the tracks -on the latest album...	0:13:33	0:13:36
-..started life in the van.	0:13:36	0:13:40
-I worked in Aberaeron -a couple of weeks ago...	0:13:40	0:13:44
-..and I had three hours spare.	0:13:44	0:13:46
-The weather was fantastic, so I -parked up with a coffee and lunch...	0:13:46	0:13:51
-..got my Mac out...	0:13:51	0:13:53
-..and I'd created -the final track on my latest album.	0:13:53	0:13:56
-It just came to me in the van.	0:13:57	0:13:59
-Because I'm -on the road a lot with my work...	0:13:59	0:14:02
-..I need to find ways -of being creative.	0:14:02	0:14:06
-I love the fact -that I've found a way to do that...	0:14:06	0:14:09
-..by writing songs in the van.	0:14:09	0:14:11
-You've a different view every time, -which provides the inspiration.	0:14:12	0:14:16
-We've got views -of the Eisteddfod tonight...	0:14:17	0:14:20
-..and of the valleys, -and the weather's good.	0:14:20	0:14:25
-It's the perfect setting -to create an idea for a song.	0:14:25	0:14:30
-I like the idea of being -somewhere different every time.	0:14:30	0:14:34
-I've noticed that while -you're driving or walking around...	0:14:34	0:14:38
-..and no-one's saying anything, -you'll start beatboxing.	0:14:38	0:14:42
-Yes, the van is...	0:14:42	0:14:45
-..the best rehearsal studio.	0:14:46	0:14:49
-When I'm in the van, I beatbox.	0:14:49	0:14:51
-I'm sure -I look like an absolute idiot...	0:15:00	0:15:03
-..when people pass me on the road...	0:15:03	0:15:05
-..but that's where -I learn all my new sounds.	0:15:06	0:15:09
-I've two videos on YouTube, where -I'm beatboxing in a traffic jam.	0:15:09	0:15:13
-I'm stuck, with nothing to do, -so I make a video.	0:15:14	0:15:17
-It's had something like 5,000 views -on YouTube - a traffic jam beatbox!	0:15:17	0:15:22
-Is it true -you beatbox in your sleep?	0:15:23	0:15:25
-Yes, it's happened -a couple of times.	0:15:25	0:15:28
-My wife has woken me up -and told me to shut up.	0:15:28	0:15:31
-"Stop making weird noises."	0:15:32	0:15:34
-When I was living in Garn -with Dyl Mei...	0:15:34	0:15:37
-..I was ill at the time, and my -wife, who was then my girlfriend...	0:15:37	0:15:42
-..came to the house -and I'd fallen asleep on her knee.	0:15:42	0:15:46
-I was KO'd. She hadn't really -heard me beatboxing before that.	0:15:46	0:15:50
-I remember making -a throaty bass noise in my sleep.	0:15:50	0:15:55
-I was obviously having -colourful dreams because I was ill.	0:15:55	0:16:01
-I remember her waking me up, -saying, "What's wrong, Ed?"	0:16:01	0:16:05
-I said, -"What? I'm sleeping. I'm ill."	0:16:05	0:16:08
-"You were making a strange noise. -I thought something was wrong."	0:16:08	0:16:12
-"No, I'm fine, I'm just ill. -What kind of noise was it?"	0:16:12	0:16:16
-MAKES BASS SOUND	0:16:16	0:16:18
-Don't take any notice, -that's just a beatbox sound.	0:16:18	0:16:23
-But I've done it more than once, -but I obviously can't remember!	0:16:23	0:16:28
-Here's a taste -of what Ed did later that evening.	0:16:28	0:16:31
-# Gwesty Cymru by Geraint Jarman #	0:16:32	0:16:33
-# Gwesty Cymru by Geraint Jarman # - -HE BEATBOXES	0:16:33	0:16:36
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-Ed Holden was invited to perform -in the home of beatbox, New York.	0:16:44	0:16:49
-He's performed here before, in the -first international beatbox contest.	0:16:49	0:16:54
-He created such an impact -that he was invited back...	0:16:55	0:16:58
-..to perform in Brooklyn and Harlem.	0:16:59	0:17:01
-I met Ed in the closest place to -Llanfrothen in NYC - Central Park...	0:17:02	0:17:06
-..how and why beatbox -originated here in the first place.	0:17:07	0:17:11
-One of the reasons it developed, -especially in New York...	0:17:11	0:17:15
-..during the early 1980s...	0:17:15	0:17:17
-..among the poorer classes...	0:17:17	0:17:20
-..was down to the ghetto blasters -that were coming out.	0:17:20	0:17:24
-They cost a bomb, -so many people couldn't afford them.	0:17:24	0:17:28
-So they beatboxed instead.	0:17:29	0:17:31
-They created sounds -with their voices.	0:17:31	0:17:34
-From that, what developed afterwards -was what we call ciphering.	0:17:35	0:17:40
-A circle of rappers -with one or two beatboxers...	0:17:40	0:17:45
-..and they'd keep the beat going...	0:17:45	0:17:48
-..while every rapper took a turn -to rap for eight bars or 16 bars.	0:17:48	0:17:55
-They went around in a circle, -like a cipher.	0:17:55	0:17:58
-I found that interesting.	0:17:59	0:18:01
-That's how beatboxing developed.	0:18:01	0:18:04
-But it was really simple.	0:18:04	0:18:06
-You know, really simple.	0:18:08	0:18:10
-The rhythms that are used -in beatboxing these days...	0:18:10	0:18:14
-..are on another level, -unlike the old school beats.	0:18:15	0:18:18
-You can do that, can't you?	0:18:19	0:18:21
-That's it. -That's how beatboxing started.	0:18:21	0:18:25
-Do you remember seeing someone -beatboxing for the first time?	0:18:25	0:18:29
-Yes. I was six years old.	0:18:30	0:18:32
-I was sitting in my lounge, -at home in Llanerchymedd...	0:18:32	0:18:36
-..and we'd just had Sky Amstrad.	0:18:36	0:18:38
-Remember those? They were old.	0:18:39	0:18:41
-We had MTV, and there were music -videos being played all the time.	0:18:41	0:18:46
-There was an advert -for the programme, Yo! MTV Raps.	0:18:46	0:18:51
-You saw a five-second clip -of this beatboxer.	0:18:51	0:18:56
-I was like, whoa!	0:18:56	0:19:00
-Just hearing this guy.	0:19:00	0:19:02
-The guy's called Rahzel...	0:19:02	0:19:05
-..one of the most renowned -beatboxers in beatboxing history.	0:19:05	0:19:10
-That was the first time -I saw someone beatboxing...	0:19:10	0:19:13
-..and ever since then, -it's created an imprint on my mind.	0:19:14	0:19:18
-I started doing it all the time. -I couldn't stop.	0:19:18	0:19:22
-It's hard to believe -I've been invited back out here.	0:19:23	0:19:27
-It's the home of hip hop.	0:19:30	0:19:32
-This is where it all started.	0:19:33	0:19:35
-The art form I fell in love with -at six years of age.	0:19:35	0:19:40
-Fast forward 23 years...	0:19:40	0:19:44
-..and I'm sitting -in the home of hip hop.	0:19:45	0:19:49
-I notice with your raps -that you use both Welsh and English.	0:19:50	0:19:54
-Do you do that on purpose?	0:19:54	0:19:56
-Do you do that on purpose? - -No.	0:19:56	0:19:58
-I can't speak perfect Welsh...	0:19:58	0:20:02
-..but it doesn't bother me either.	0:20:02	0:20:05
-It's how -I put myself across on my songs.	0:20:05	0:20:08
-I don't try to polish my raps. -I rap as I see it.	0:20:11	0:20:15
-If I have to rhyme, and the only -word that'll work is in English...	0:20:16	0:20:20
-..then I'll use an English word.	0:20:20	0:20:22
-# Top of the game with the polo, -bringing you fresh beats like a polo	0:20:22	0:20:26
-# Rappers see me coming, -they say, oh, no!	0:20:26	0:20:28
-# I believe in the thread, -so I give a yo-yo #	0:20:29	0:20:31
-You see? I don't care.	0:20:31	0:20:33
-Some people may say that it's -not correct Welsh or whatever...	0:20:33	0:20:37
-..but it makes no difference to me.	0:20:38	0:20:40
-I do what makes me happy -and that's what life's about.	0:20:40	0:20:44
-I don't go around pleasing people.	0:20:44	0:20:47
-I just do...	0:20:47	0:20:49
-..what I think -is a good reflection of myself.	0:20:49	0:20:54
-It's a double-edged sword...	0:20:54	0:20:56
-..because it may seem I'm trying -to alter the Welsh language...	0:20:56	0:21:00
-..but that's not the intention.	0:21:00	0:21:02
-The fact is, my Welsh isn't great...	0:21:03	0:21:07
-..but because I've created -the style that you mentioned...	0:21:07	0:21:11
-..I'm happy with that...	0:21:11	0:21:13
-..and that's why -I still use the same style.	0:21:14	0:21:17
-I rap like I speak. It's Wenglish.	0:21:17	0:21:20
-That's how I present -and speak in the real world.	0:21:21	0:21:24
-You're performing -in Brooklyn and Harlem.	0:21:24	0:21:27
-Where did the invitation come from?	0:21:27	0:21:30
-What happened was, -I went to New York...	0:21:30	0:21:34
-..about two years ago to take part -in the Human Beatbox Convention.	0:21:34	0:21:39
-I gave a brief performance -and I was representing Wales.	0:21:39	0:21:44
-Beatboxers from all over the world -had come to this venue in Brooklyn.	0:21:44	0:21:50
-It just so happens that I had -an incredible reaction from people.	0:21:50	0:21:56
-Famous individuals in the industry -were all bigging me up.	0:21:56	0:22:01
-I found it hard to comprehend.	0:22:01	0:22:06
-Since then, -I've kept in touch with this woman.	0:22:06	0:22:11
-She's part of the scene -here in New York.	0:22:11	0:22:15
-She organizes gigs and shows.	0:22:16	0:22:18
-She's in the thick of it.	0:22:18	0:22:21
-She's the one who invited me -over here to do a couple of shows...	0:22:22	0:22:27
-..and a studio session.	0:22:27	0:22:29
-Did you expect to get -that kind of reception?	0:22:29	0:22:32
-I saw your performance. Everyone -went quiet for five seconds.	0:22:33	0:22:37
-We all thought they -must've thought you were rubbish.	0:22:37	0:22:41
-You thought the same too.	0:22:41	0:22:42
-You thought the same too. - -I was sweating, man. I was fretting.	0:22:42	0:22:45
-The whole place erupted, didn't it?	0:22:45	0:22:48
-Why do you think -they reacted like that?	0:22:48	0:22:51
-What did you do -that was different from the rest?	0:22:51	0:22:54
-Not many of them looped. -I think I started with hip hop.	0:22:54	0:22:59
-I looped it -and put a rap on top of it.	0:23:01	0:23:04
-I sped it up, turned it into techno -and rapped on top of that.	0:23:04	0:23:08
-If I remember rightly, -it was a 10-minute performance.	0:23:09	0:23:12
-I remember finishing -and it went dead quiet.	0:23:13	0:23:16
-I remember thinking, -this could go either way.	0:23:16	0:23:20
-As it happens, the place went crazy. -It was incredible.	0:23:20	0:23:24
-People came up to me and were giving -me cards left, right and centre.	0:23:25	0:23:30
-It was interesting.	0:23:30	0:23:32
-I didn't expect that at all.	0:23:32	0:23:34
-You mentioned -being inspired by Rahzel on MTV...	0:23:34	0:23:38
-..but who are -your other musical influences?	0:23:38	0:23:41
-Growing up, -I was constantly influenced.	0:23:41	0:23:44
-My family are musical anyway.	0:23:44	0:23:47
-They were always singing.	0:23:48	0:23:50
-Singing in a choir -never interested me.	0:23:50	0:23:53
-Mam's a singer -and she was constantly gigging.	0:23:54	0:23:57
-What kind of music?	0:23:57	0:23:59
-What kind of music? - -Mam's stuff is traditional.	0:23:59	0:24:01
-She also plays -the piano, guitar, harp...	0:24:01	0:24:06
-..and bass.	0:24:06	0:24:08
-Mam plays all kinds of things.	0:24:09	0:24:11
-Dad used to listen to a lot of jazz. -Old jazz.	0:24:12	0:24:16
-Not like Miles Davis...	0:24:16	0:24:20
-..but swingy jazz.	0:24:20	0:24:22
-Things like that.	0:24:22	0:24:25
-Jelly Roll Morton and others.	0:24:27	0:24:30
-Dad would spend hours -working in his study...	0:24:30	0:24:35
-..and he'd always play -a jazz cassette or CD.	0:24:35	0:24:38
-I remember -going upstairs and hearing that.	0:24:38	0:24:42
-I'd think, that's interesting. -What rhythm is that?	0:24:42	0:24:46
-That's a different rhythm from -what I normally hear. It's not 4/4.	0:24:46	0:24:51
-I always -used to find it interesting...	0:24:51	0:24:54
-..trying to latch on -to that rhythm...	0:24:54	0:24:58
-..and trying to recreate the sound.	0:24:58	0:25:01
-I was influenced by -lots of jazz music because of Dad...	0:25:01	0:25:05
-..and sounds I'd hear every day.	0:25:05	0:25:09
-I'd be influenced -by wailing police sirens.	0:25:09	0:25:15
-I'd copy the sound.	0:25:15	0:25:19
-A helicopter.	0:25:19	0:25:21
-MIMICS WHIRRING	0:25:21	0:25:23
-I'd be influenced...	0:25:23	0:25:26
-..just by sounds in general.	0:25:26	0:25:29
-I'd lose myself sometimes.	0:25:29	0:25:31
-I'd sit there and...	0:25:31	0:25:33
-Say Mam was driving down the road...	0:25:33	0:25:36
-..and she was -calling in on Auntie Chris...	0:25:36	0:25:39
-..she's put the indicator -on it'd go tttttttt...	0:25:39	0:25:42
-In my head, -I'd try to give the click a beat.	0:25:42	0:25:45
-If the indicator goes tttttt, -I'd add a beat.	0:25:45	0:25:50
-You're -going to be performing in Brooklyn.	0:25:52	0:25:55
-There's going to be -a lot of hip hop and beatboxing.	0:25:55	0:25:59
-But the Harlem gig -is all about jazz.	0:25:59	0:26:02
-Yes, it's hardcore jazz too.	0:26:02	0:26:05
-It's a different field -from what I'm used to.	0:26:05	0:26:09
-I'm being taken -out of my comfort zone for that one.	0:26:09	0:26:12
-I'm going to be working -with people I've never met...	0:26:13	0:26:16
-..who are professionals -in their field...	0:26:16	0:26:19
-..and I'm going to be doing -odd sounds with my mouth.	0:26:20	0:26:23
-I'm looking forward to it...	0:26:24	0:26:26
-..but it's so different -from what I'm used to.	0:26:26	0:26:29
-It'll be a bit of an eye opener.	0:26:30	0:26:32
-Ed had no reason -to worry about the rehearsal.	0:26:32	0:26:36
-He was so comfy in the jazz world...	0:26:36	0:26:38
-..at one point, he started doing -air trombone and then air piano.	0:26:39	0:26:43
-Walking the streets of Brooklyn...	0:26:43	0:26:45
-..I felt like -the coolest man in America.	0:26:46	0:26:49
-Then a car backfired.	0:26:49	0:26:51
-I decided I needed to change -my attitude, and my trousers.	0:27:08	0:27:12
-I was going to be late -arriving at Putnam's...	0:27:12	0:27:15
-..the Brooklyn club -where Ed was performing that night.	0:27:15	0:27:19
-Whilst walking through the club, -I could hear Ed beatboxing.	0:27:19	0:27:23
-It was an opportunity to contemplate -the future of beatboxing.	0:27:24	0:27:28
-Everyone owns the instrument.	0:27:28	0:27:30
-With a vast array of tutorials -teaching beatboxing...	0:27:31	0:27:34
-..beatboxers predominantly claim...	0:27:34	0:27:37
-..that this will be the first global -music in the history of mankind...	0:27:37	0:27:41
-..that will provide -the soundtrack to the 21st century.	0:27:42	0:27:45
-I took it for granted I'd find Ed -in the room with the best acoustics.	0:27:45	0:27:50
-HE BEATBOXES	0:27:55	0:27:57
-Tonight, Ed Holden -won over Brooklyn...	0:28:05	0:28:08
-..but the big challenge -was yet to come.	0:28:08	0:28:11
-Beatboxing in Harlem.	0:28:11	0:28:13
-.	0:28:13	0:28:13
-Subtitles	0:28:14	0:28:14
-Subtitles - -Subtitles	0:28:14	0:28:16
-The time came to perform in one of -New York's most disadvantaged areas.	0:28:16	0:28:21
-I accompanied Ed -to his Harlem venue.	0:28:21	0:28:24
-No, not there.	0:28:24	0:28:25
-Ed was performing Take The A Train -by Duke Ellington...	0:28:26	0:28:29
-..which gives directions -on how to get there.	0:28:29	0:28:32
-We followed the song's instructions -but first found a comfy stoop.	0:28:32	0:28:36
-Do you remember the first time -you beatboxed on stage?	0:28:36	0:28:40
-Do you remember what it was like?	0:28:40	0:28:43
-I don't remember that -but I remember my first gig.	0:28:43	0:28:46
-I wasn't beatboxing at the time.	0:28:47	0:28:49
-I was in a project -with two boys called Tom and Loz...	0:28:49	0:28:53
-..who are close friends of mine.	0:28:54	0:28:56
-They live in Leeds now but I grew up -with them and Loz' brother, Joel.	0:28:56	0:29:01
-They had a house in Cemaes Bay, -where we'd go to jam.	0:29:01	0:29:05
-In the end, Tom and Loz asked me -to join their band, Project X.	0:29:05	0:29:11
-We had our first gig...	0:29:11	0:29:13
-..supporting a great local band -called Valium.	0:29:13	0:29:16
-We were their support band -in Menai Bridge...	0:29:17	0:29:21
-..at The Vic.	0:29:22	0:29:24
-I remember the set-up.	0:29:24	0:29:26
-Tom was on two keyboards -and Loz had a tower PC.	0:29:26	0:29:29
-We'd brought -the whole thing with us.	0:29:29	0:29:32
-I had a DJX keyboard -and a turntable.	0:29:32	0:29:36
-That was my very first gig. -I remember that.	0:29:36	0:29:39
-I was nervous, man.	0:29:39	0:29:41
-It was my first live gig -and I was nervous.	0:29:42	0:29:46
-A year later I joined Pep Le Pew.	0:29:46	0:29:49
-I started gigging -more regularly after that.	0:29:49	0:29:52
-I was a DJ, so I never -went on the mic or anything.	0:29:53	0:29:56
-During that period, -the reason I started on the mic...	0:29:56	0:29:59
-..was because Dyl Mei and Aron -built my confidence.	0:30:00	0:30:03
-They were like, -"You should go on the mic."	0:30:04	0:30:07
-But I wasn't sure about it.	0:30:07	0:30:09
-"You do it in the studio, -just do it on stage."	0:30:09	0:30:12
-So I finally said OK.	0:30:13	0:30:16
-I started doing -one feature for Pep Le Pew.	0:30:16	0:30:20
-I stood behind the decks -with the mic in front of me...	0:30:20	0:30:23
-..without having to go -to the front of the stage.	0:30:24	0:30:27
-Aron was the frontman, -I was in the background.	0:30:27	0:30:30
-I was a lot bigger then. I was -much heavier. I had no confidence.	0:30:30	0:30:35
-But Aron and Dyl -built my confidence.	0:30:36	0:30:39
-And the rest of the band, -to be fair.	0:30:39	0:30:42
-The more I did, the more I realized -I was getting a buzz from it...	0:30:42	0:30:46
-..from performing.	0:30:46	0:30:48
-I was getting a real buzz out of it.	0:30:49	0:30:51
-I wasn't into...	0:30:51	0:30:53
-I'd have a drink -but I wasn't into taking drugs.	0:30:53	0:30:57
-I never went -in search of an artificial high.	0:30:57	0:31:02
-I learnt early on that the way -to get that buzz was to perform.	0:31:03	0:31:08
-I was -addicted to performing by the end.	0:31:08	0:31:13
-I was like, 'Oh, yes, a gig!' -I'd get a real buzz out of it.	0:31:13	0:31:17
-That's one of the reasons -I continue to do what I do now...	0:31:17	0:31:21
-..whereas others have given up.	0:31:21	0:31:23
-I still think I'll carry on -into my eighties.	0:31:23	0:31:28
-I doubt I'll ever slow down. -Life's too short, really.	0:31:28	0:31:32
-What's been the worst experience -of your professional life?	0:31:32	0:31:36
-There have always been -lots of ups and downs in my career.	0:31:39	0:31:44
-But I think the worst one...	0:31:44	0:31:46
-..was the Radio 1 MOBO Awards thing.	0:31:47	0:31:50
-Basically, this is what happened.	0:31:50	0:31:53
-Radio 1 was doing a documentary -called Rap Britannia.	0:31:55	0:31:59
-The whole purpose -of the documentary...	0:32:02	0:32:05
-..was a Radio 1 collaboration -of artists from all over Britain...	0:32:06	0:32:10
-..rather than simply concentrating -on the London scene.	0:32:10	0:32:14
-They covered the Manchester scene, -Sheffield...	0:32:15	0:32:19
-..Wales, Ireland, Scotland.	0:32:19	0:32:21
-The idea was that the artists -represented their countries...	0:32:21	0:32:26
-..and that we all came together -in one documentary.	0:32:26	0:32:30
-I thought it was a great idea -and that it'd open doors for me.	0:32:30	0:32:34
-There was no money involved.	0:32:34	0:32:36
-I knew something was up.	0:32:36	0:32:39
-I pushed the issue -because I wanted to get paid.	0:32:39	0:32:42
-But they said there was no budget.	0:32:42	0:32:45
-Then again, you see the main man -turning up in a huge Merc.	0:32:45	0:32:49
-You tell me there's no budget? -Come on.	0:32:49	0:32:51
-Anyway, I did it with Hoax Emcee.	0:32:52	0:32:55
-I did the interview -and wrapped it up.	0:32:55	0:32:59
-The guy emailed me afterwards -about the UK Rap Anthem...	0:33:00	0:33:05
-..which involved all the artists -in the documentary on one song.	0:33:06	0:33:10
-The documentary -would finish with that song.	0:33:10	0:33:14
-I thought, yeah, OK, cool.	0:33:14	0:33:18
-I'll ask Hoax if he can do it.	0:33:18	0:33:20
-I asked him straightaway -how much we were getting paid.	0:33:21	0:33:24
-He told me there was no money.	0:33:25	0:33:27
-I was like, where are we -going to record it? In London.	0:33:27	0:33:31
-I told Hoax about it. -I wanted to know how he felt.	0:33:31	0:33:36
-He said, "I don't want anything -to do with it. It stinks."	0:33:36	0:33:40
-I should've done the same thing -but I was sucked into this wave.	0:33:40	0:33:45
-I agreed to it.	0:33:45	0:33:48
-I was going to represent -North Wales by myself.	0:33:48	0:33:51
-I went down, recorded the tracks, -it was all fine.	0:33:52	0:33:55
-That night, I arrived home...	0:33:56	0:33:58
-..or it might've been -a couple of nights afterwards...	0:33:58	0:34:02
-..and they'd uploaded the track -on YouTube.	0:34:02	0:34:05
-It had -almost 400,000 views in two hours.	0:34:05	0:34:08
-They texted everyone -who was on the track.	0:34:08	0:34:11
-I got this random text -from the Radio 1 guy.	0:34:12	0:34:14
-"The MOBOS want you to do this song.	0:34:15	0:34:17
-"They want you at the MOBOs -to do the track live on TV...	0:34:17	0:34:22
-"..on this date, so keep it clear.	0:34:22	0:34:25
-"It's vital that you do this. -It's a huge opportunity."	0:34:25	0:34:29
-In my head, I was like, oh, my gosh!	0:34:29	0:34:33
-This is nuts.	0:34:33	0:34:35
-I'm one of -the first Welsh rappers...	0:34:35	0:34:39
-..to represent Wales in the MOBOs.	0:34:39	0:34:42
-It was a big deal.	0:34:42	0:34:44
-It sent me into another world.	0:34:44	0:34:47
-I was thinking about things -in a different way.	0:34:47	0:34:50
-Anyway, me being me, I thought -I couldn't pass up this opportunity.	0:34:50	0:34:56
-I started hammering the press -and telling everyone.	0:34:56	0:35:00
-Check this out. -I'm representing on the MOBOs.	0:35:00	0:35:03
-A few days before the MOBOs, -I hadn't heard a thing about it.	0:35:03	0:35:07
-I started worrying -that no-one had told me a thing.	0:35:07	0:35:10
-I'd been labouring the point -but heard nothing.	0:35:11	0:35:14
-The day before the MOBOs, one of -the guys on the track emailed me.	0:35:15	0:35:20
-He said, "It's really bad news -but I've just seen this."	0:35:22	0:35:26
-I clicked on the link and -it was a blanket tweet from Radio 1.	0:35:26	0:35:30
-"Unfortunately, the UK Rap Anthem -won't be performed...	0:35:31	0:35:35
-"..in this year's MOBOs."	0:35:35	0:35:37
-And that was it. -It hadn't been directed at anyone.	0:35:38	0:35:41
-It just so happened the guy -had seen it and had sent it to me.	0:35:41	0:35:45
-No-one had sent anything to anyone.	0:35:46	0:35:48
-There were no messages, -no texts, no apologies.	0:35:48	0:35:52
-There was nothing at all.	0:35:52	0:35:54
-Ties were literally severed.	0:35:55	0:35:57
-I remember -sitting in front of my computer...	0:35:58	0:36:01
-..and having that feeling -in the pit of my stomach.	0:36:01	0:36:05
-How are you meant to bounce back -from something like that?	0:36:05	0:36:09
-I don't know, but fortunately I did.	0:36:09	0:36:12
-That really messed with my mind. -I lost sleep over it.	0:36:12	0:36:16
-I felt like such an idiot...	0:36:16	0:36:18
-..for putting so much effort -into creating a buzz for myself.	0:36:18	0:36:22
-The buzz was there, but they -severed the link out of my control.	0:36:23	0:36:28
-I was angry at myself because -I know what the industry's like.	0:36:29	0:36:32
-But I was sucked into this void.	0:36:33	0:36:36
-It was an odd time.	0:36:36	0:36:39
-But it was -a very valuable experience for me.	0:36:40	0:36:45
-That was your worst experience, -but what's been your highlight?	0:36:46	0:36:50
-The best experience?	0:36:50	0:36:52
-Again, there have been -just as many, really.	0:36:54	0:36:58
-One of my best experiences -was working with the WJEC...	0:36:58	0:37:03
-..to create a GCSE in beatboxing.	0:37:04	0:37:06
-That was a big thing for me.	0:37:06	0:37:08
-I'd rather do something like that -than the MOBOs any day of the week.	0:37:09	0:37:13
-When I was at school...	0:37:14	0:37:16
-..GCSE Music -meant broken glockenspiels...	0:37:16	0:37:20
-..barely-functioning keyboards -and no computers.	0:37:20	0:37:24
-So I never took music.	0:37:25	0:37:27
-That's all I did at school but I -never took music as a GCSE subject.	0:37:27	0:37:31
-I preferred to play rugby, so I took -the Physical Education GCSE instead.	0:37:31	0:37:37
-Fast forward to the future...	0:37:39	0:37:42
-..and to think I've created a GCSE -in beatboxing with the WJEC...	0:37:42	0:37:46
-..that's on the syllabus in -every secondary school in Wales...	0:37:47	0:37:51
-..that's... that's incredible.	0:37:51	0:37:55
-That's been -one of my biggest achievements.	0:37:55	0:37:58
-The fact -I've been able to be part of that.	0:37:58	0:38:01
-If children -do take the Beatbox GCSE...	0:38:02	0:38:05
-..when it comes to -sitting the exam itself...	0:38:05	0:38:09
-..I'll be joining the examiner -to mark their performances.	0:38:09	0:38:13
-That's better than any MOBOs.	0:38:13	0:38:17
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-Harlem was getting its first taste -of beatboxing and rapping in Welsh.	0:38:25	0:38:30
-RAPPING	0:38:30	0:38:33
-# You must take the A train	0:38:33	0:38:38
-# To go to Sugar Hill -way up in Harlem #	0:38:39	0:38:43
-ED RAPS IN WELSH	0:38:45	0:38:47
-So, Ed, how was the gig?	0:39:01	0:39:03
-The gig went better than expected.	0:39:05	0:39:08
-I was expecting the gig to be great -but it exceeded that.	0:39:08	0:39:12
-It was brilliant.	0:39:12	0:39:14
-We had a jam on the Friday night...	0:39:15	0:39:19
-..to rehearse -what we were going to do and so on.	0:39:19	0:39:22
-This afternoon I met up -with the group beforehand.	0:39:23	0:39:27
-We sat down, had a cuppa -and discussed the tracks in detail.	0:39:27	0:39:33
-But we did the complete opposite -of what we'd rehearsed.	0:39:33	0:39:37
-It was jazz.	0:39:37	0:39:39
-That's what it's like.	0:39:39	0:39:41
-You go with the flow -and the feeling.	0:39:42	0:39:45
-I sat back -with all the gear in front of me.	0:39:45	0:39:50
-I knew in my head...	0:39:50	0:39:52
-..what my role was within the group.	0:39:53	0:39:56
-I knew what I needed to do.	0:39:56	0:39:59
-I just sat back -and went with the flow.	0:39:59	0:40:02
-It was superb.	0:40:03	0:40:04
-When we came off stage, -everyone loved us.	0:40:05	0:40:08
-All my CDs have sold.	0:40:08	0:40:10
-All my cards have gone. -I've none left.	0:40:10	0:40:13
-There were -a couple of people there...	0:40:13	0:40:17
-..who arrange gigs -in New York and so on.	0:40:17	0:40:21
-They asked if I wanted to perform -in two other gigs before going home.	0:40:21	0:40:27
-One's tonight -and perhaps another tomorrow night.	0:40:27	0:40:32
-Out of an afternoon's work creating -jazz with talented musicians.	0:40:32	0:40:37
-Your mouth -is an instrument in itself.	0:40:38	0:40:41
-How do you prepare? -Can things go wrong with it too?	0:40:41	0:40:45
-The mouth thing -is a pain in the butt sometimes.	0:40:46	0:40:49
-It doesn't matter sometimes, -you're fine.	0:40:50	0:40:53
-Other times, I don't know -how it happens either...	0:40:53	0:40:58
-..but sometimes I drop a beat...	0:40:58	0:41:01
-..and it goes fine, but then -I may bite down my tongue.	0:41:03	0:41:06
-The pain is severe, but because -I'm in the middle of performing...	0:41:07	0:41:11
-..I have to hide the pain.	0:41:11	0:41:13
-There's nothing worse -than biting your tongue.	0:41:13	0:41:16
-There's no blood or anything...	0:41:18	0:41:20
-..but the tongue feels as if it...	0:41:20	0:41:23
-I can't explain it, but there's -a pain in the centre of the tongue.	0:41:23	0:41:27
-Sometimes I do it right there.	0:41:27	0:41:30
-I look in the mirror -and there's a red line...	0:41:30	0:41:33
-..where I've obviously bit into it.	0:41:33	0:41:37
-Spit can be a problem, can't it?	0:41:37	0:41:39
-Yes, it can. -I've a gross story for you.	0:41:41	0:41:45
-Do you want to hear it?	0:41:46	0:41:47
-Do you want to hear it? - -Yes, of course.	0:41:47	0:41:48
-Viewers at home, -this'll make you feel queasy.	0:41:49	0:41:52
-I'll never forget it.	0:41:52	0:41:54
-I was doing a gig -at a festival called Bayfest...	0:41:55	0:41:59
-..on Anglesey.	0:41:59	0:42:01
-Bands were playing all day.	0:42:01	0:42:05
-Most of them -were grunge and metal bands.	0:42:05	0:42:10
-Duh! Ruh! Whoaaa!	0:42:10	0:42:13
-Rarrrrr!	0:42:13	0:42:15
-It was totally hardcore, you know?	0:42:15	0:42:18
-Beatboxing was something -completely different.	0:42:18	0:42:21
-Because I'm from Anglesey...	0:42:22	0:42:24
-..the organisers -asked if I fancied doing a set.	0:42:24	0:42:28
-I was performing -at about 10 o'clock at night.	0:42:28	0:42:32
-Keep in mind that these grunge bands -had been playing...	0:42:34	0:42:38
-..from midday to 10 o'clock.	0:42:38	0:42:41
-They were obviously using -the same microphones.	0:42:41	0:42:45
-I didn't use any machines in my set, -just a microphone.	0:42:45	0:42:49
-It was a 15-minute set, easy enough.	0:42:49	0:42:52
-I could let my hair down -after it was over.	0:42:52	0:42:54
-I started beatboxing -and the crowd was loving it.	0:42:55	0:42:59
-I was getting a buzz out of it too.	0:42:59	0:43:02
-Halfway through, I thought -I'd do some inward sounds.	0:43:02	0:43:06
-Sounds like that.	0:43:06	0:43:08
-I put the mic -in front of my mouth, did it...	0:43:09	0:43:12
-..and sucked in a mouthful of spit -that was in the microphone.	0:43:12	0:43:17
-It makes me feel sick -thinking about it.	0:43:17	0:43:21
-Arrrgh!	0:43:21	0:43:23
-I had to stop -and spit it back out...	0:43:23	0:43:27
-..without the audience noticing.	0:43:27	0:43:30
-I still had -the taste in my mouth afterwards.	0:43:30	0:43:33
-It was a disgusting taste. -I'll never ever forget it.	0:43:33	0:43:38
-Since then, I use my own mic -for every gig I do.	0:43:38	0:43:43
-I've got antibacterial wipes now.	0:43:43	0:43:46
-It makes me feel sick -thinking about it.	0:43:46	0:43:49
-Next question, Dan.	0:43:49	0:43:51
-Honestly, I don't want to -talk about it any more.	0:43:51	0:43:54
-We've been here a couple of days, -you understand the beatbox art form.	0:43:59	0:44:04
-Try it.	0:44:04	0:44:05
-HE BEATBOXES	0:44:06	0:44:08
-OK.	0:44:08	0:44:09
-MAKES RHYTHMIC FART SOUNDS	0:44:10	0:44:12
-It's a long journey from the -birthplace of beatbox in America...	0:44:26	0:44:30
-..to the home of beatboxing in Wales -- Llanfrothen.	0:44:30	0:44:33
-Both places have been -twinned with the spirit of hip hop.	0:44:34	0:44:37
-Llanfrothen is where Ed has set up -his own studio, Stiwdio Panad.	0:44:38	0:44:42
-While he was in -his own surroundings...	0:44:46	0:44:48
-..I thought I'd quiz Ed Holden -about the secret of his success.	0:44:48	0:44:53
-These aren't the hats of beatboxers -Ed's beaten - well, not all of them.	0:44:54	0:44:58
-One thing I've learnt -from doing these programmes...	0:44:58	0:45:02
-..is that parental support -from age 16-24 has been vital...	0:45:02	0:45:06
-..in their offspring's success.	0:45:06	0:45:09
-Is that true of you?	0:45:09	0:45:12
-Yes. If it weren't for my parents -helping me in the early days...	0:45:12	0:45:17
-..I wouldn't be sitting here today, -doing the interview.	0:45:17	0:45:21
-Fair play to my parents, -they took me everywhere.	0:45:21	0:45:26
-I didn't drive.	0:45:26	0:45:28
-I joined Pep Le Pew when I was... -How old was I?	0:45:28	0:45:32
-I was 17, so obviously -I didn't drive or anything.	0:45:32	0:45:37
-I didn't start driving -until I was 20.	0:45:37	0:45:40
-Mam and Dad -drove me back and forth to gigs.	0:45:40	0:45:43
-They helped me buy equipment.	0:45:43	0:45:46
-They literally -bought the equipment for me.	0:45:46	0:45:50
-They helped -nurture the talent in me.	0:45:50	0:45:54
-It was incredible, really, -because I knew in my head...	0:45:54	0:45:58
-..that deep down they wanted me -to get a proper job and so on.	0:45:58	0:46:02
-But I didn't want to. I had -no desire to get a job and so on.	0:46:03	0:46:07
-I know that sounds spoilt.	0:46:07	0:46:10
-I'm sure I was at the time...	0:46:12	0:46:14
-..but without my parents' drive -to carry on doing what I do...	0:46:14	0:46:18
-..I wouldn't be where I am today.	0:46:18	0:46:20
-I wouldn't have made -a career out of it.	0:46:20	0:46:23
-Lots of people -want to play instruments.	0:46:23	0:46:26
-Your parents must've loved the fact -you wanted to be a beatboxer.	0:46:26	0:46:30
-Not really because -I wanted to do much more than that.	0:46:30	0:46:35
-I wanted to beatbox...	0:46:35	0:46:39
-..but I didn't -just want to do that.	0:46:39	0:46:41
-I had many more interests besides.	0:46:41	0:46:44
-DJ'ing was the major thing.	0:46:44	0:46:46
-I always wanted to buy vinyl.	0:46:46	0:46:49
-I wasn't earning money so I had -to get Mam and Dad to buy me vinyl.	0:46:49	0:46:53
-I'd go to school, come home...	0:46:53	0:46:56
-..and give my mother -a list of vinyl I wanted to buy.	0:46:56	0:47:00
-She'd go to Bangor -and buy vinyl for me.	0:47:00	0:47:03
-It's incredible -how much they did for me growing up.	0:47:03	0:47:07
-But it was worth every second.	0:47:07	0:47:09
-Hopefully I make them proud now.	0:47:10	0:47:12
-I can travel the world, -an expert in my field.	0:47:12	0:47:18
-What advice would Ed Holden -give his 18-year-old self?	0:47:18	0:47:23
-To be honest, I wouldn't say much...	0:47:28	0:47:30
-..because I've already been there -and I know I have the drive.	0:47:31	0:47:35
-That's what kept me going.	0:47:35	0:47:37
-There wouldn't -be much more I could add.	0:47:37	0:47:41
-Eat less, perhaps...	0:47:41	0:47:44
-..and work out more!	0:47:44	0:47:46
-Apart from that, I don't think -I could give any more advice.	0:47:46	0:47:51
-I was in Llanfrothen, the spiritual -home of beatboxing in Wales.	0:47:52	0:47:57
-I'd always wanted to be -a hip hop artist.	0:47:57	0:48:00
-After saying goodbye to Ed, -I went in search of inspiration.	0:48:01	0:48:05
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