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Where is your brains? This is a disgrace. The failure is down to

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you. You're fire. You're fired. You're fired.

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APPLAUSE Good evening and welcome to The

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Apprentice You're Fired. As Lord Sugar's search for his

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business partner continues, with the help of unseen footage, we'll

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be feeling the collar of the candidates who bit off more than

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they could chew. Why am I abging like it's a normal episode. Double

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fire. First let's meet our panel.

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Entrepreneur, Debbie Wosskow, Media Executive Kelvin MacKenzie and

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comedian Sarah Millican. Welcome to You're Fired. So, we

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will go, tonight's task of creating a new brand of creating pet food

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left one candidate with an a nasty taste in her mouth. I haven't seen

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much of your Ellie. I don't think I could go into business with you. So,

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I'm going to tell you that you're fired. OK. Please welcome Ellie

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Reed. CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

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Aren't you looking the girlie girl? Commiserations. Did you cringe

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watching that? Were you disappointed? Disappointed I didn't

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speak my mind more. Get my point across enough. I'm not used to so

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outspoken people in my my general business. I really enjoyed the

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whole experience. It was brilliant. When I went, I was, obviously,

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gutted. Which is the word I seem to use quite a lot. Yeah. Yeah, it was

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one of those things. I couldn't do really more. I wish I had the

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opportunity to be a project manager and kick the lads like Vincent into

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shape. I didn't. Let's see where you slipped on this task. I need to

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up my game after being in the boardroom. What business person

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hangs around for three hours wondering what is going on? It's a

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serious issue. You have to come forward. I will be working very

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hard today. All right. I haven't heard anything in terms of creation,

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idea that is have come directly from Ellie. I said it plenty of

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times. You didn't listen to me. are in the firing line. What I

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haven't seen from you is being forceful when we are on the task.

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Maybe my voice isn't as heard as some of the other people. It leaps

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off the page at me really. You had a challenge to make your voice

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heard. Was this the wrong task to follow the previous week? I always

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thought that the advertising task would be my downfall. I never did

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anything in marketing on advertising before. I did stress on

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several occasion that is I had a small dog and that I do buy small

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dog food. I said it about three or four times. Nobody took it on board.

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I think that that was - it was the whole concept of the Everydog that

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was our dawn fall. We bought into. It we bought into it. We have

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photographic evidence you have a small dog cold Calvin? I do, yes.

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Another picture of Calvin. If you are on Calvin's Christmas card list,

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this is what you are getting for Christmas. Let's discuss your

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progress. Debbie you are an expert in this field. You are an

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entrepreneur working within communications and media. Her per

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performance? I had my eye on you from the beginning. I was willing

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you to have a voice and was constantly disappointed that you

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didn't have one. The point you made, that you are not used to working

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with so many vocal people, you run your own business. Yeah. People say

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it back to me. You really did have the opportunity to ensure that you

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were heard. You know what Lord Sugar is looking for a business

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partner not a mouse. You have that voice. It's up to you to make it

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heard stkpwhrsm you are a dog owner, what did you think? Did you find

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the men too goby for you, is that the truth? Me and Vincent he wound

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me up quite a bit. Everyone was strong characters in there. My

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business partner in real-life, you know, has made me appreciate her a

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lot. We both have. We discuss things as a group, as a pair. We

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don't constantly have to shout over each other. Did you feel that

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wasn't business-like the way everybody joined in? Yeah. I

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think... I'm not an arse licker that happened a lot to the project

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managers. I don't suck up to people. I think my downfall, in general,

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was the fact I was on the sub team for every single task. Whenever a

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project manager is in the boardroom and they lost the task they take

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back people from the sub team, they don't know what they have done?

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Because I didn't have my say enough, the project manager, that

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opportunity wasn't there. Getting your voice heard is difficult?

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work in construction. I do. In my head that is burmy builders. In my

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dreams, to be honest. Are they quiet as mice your builders? They

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do what I tell them to do. You tell them what to do. I do. They

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respected me shall I suppose, the guy that is work for me. They know

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I know what I'm talking about. pay them. I pay them to do what I

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tell them to do. That is how it works? My clients respect my

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opinion and things. You say you are not an arse licker, do you think

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Jim is an arse licker? Arse licker and a puppeteer. I think that Vince

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took Jim's opinion as being everything that he knew. Jim is in

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marking, at the end of the day. He would be the best person to know

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about these things. Tell us about your relationship with himself,

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with Vincent? A couple of weeks ago he took the phone out of your hand?

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Yes. Which didn't go down well? found him in that particular task I

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found him extremely irritating. He wouldn't let me speak. I sell every

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day, that is what I do for a job. I was well handling the situation. He

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was there in my ear for a long time. Longer than you guys saw. I lost it.

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I was like, "you take it over", "hang on" I southed and passed the

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phone off. He did my head in. He is not my person in real-life. Since

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then I got on better with him since that particular task. Aren't you

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going to have to deal with people like that? I do in business. Mostly

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in nightclubs. You think I should be a bouncer. I mean, how do you

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make yourself heard when people are piping and piping. How do you get

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across is it elbows? Elbows out and get shouting. You know what I mean.

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You have to punch your way through it all. I did feel like it

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sometimes. You have to have a violent personality and bunch it

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through and add act in a collective way at sometime. You would be a gee

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news. I was too much of a team player. If I wanted to shine I

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should have said - I want to do the sales. That is what I do in my

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business day-to-day. I should have made the project manager change

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their mind in the role they gave me. This happens to candidates when

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they have to to be a movie director for the day. Natasha was no

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exception. Reaction. Skinny jeans and high heels. She's leaping

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around. Impact. Floor, boom, bang. You need to achieve that. Is that

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clear? What did you think of Natasha She came into her own in

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this ep side. Prior that I had been reserving judgement on Natasha. The

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ad itself was all right, better than the other one. To my mind she

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did a good job. She did. Do you love her work? I love anything

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where a dog is jumping up-and-down. Isn't it the most amazing thing -

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don't have any animals, that is as crows close as I will get. It was

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fun. I would just play that back and back just before I go to bed.

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Let's hear what Lord Sugar and your former colleagues have to say about

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you. Ellie is a strange one, as far as I'm concerned. She is a dog

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owner herself. She should have known better to not allow the team

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lead tore go down the route they went. She is weak and doesn't add

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anything to the team. Ellie who own as dog could have been pro-active

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pushing against this. She is a nice person. She is in the background.

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She doesn't get involved. looking for a business partner with

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dynamism. She didn't demonstrate in the five weeks she was here. For

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that reason, regretfully Ellie had to go. What is the reaction? Um...,

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Tom had a dog when he was younger himself. You know, he has as much

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experience of a dog as I vfplt Jim is a really nice guy. He did think,

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you know, he didn't want to end up in the boardroom. He was saying who

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should go in the boardroom instead of him, basically. Vince, yeah, I

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don't know. We didn't see eye to eye, did we? No. We might move you

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out one door. And, is there anything you can take from it? This

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is a very specific set of circumstances. You have your own

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business? It made me grateful for what I've got. Grand stuff. Do you

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think that Lord Sugar was right? was a tough one. You didn't do

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yourself any fayres favours. On balance, yes. Was he right? He was

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right to let her go. If he was going to fire one it should have

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been Vincent. Because he fired two, because he told you last week to

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pull your socks up, you didn't pull your socks up. It had to be meor

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Natasha, I agree with that. decided yourself - socks, pet.

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don't think Lord Sugar ever used the expression, "pull your socks

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up". Maybe he should and he will be more successful! I think you didn't

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want to turn into the person that it would have made you. That's

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right. You are probably better off out. I have been exactly as I am. I

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am happy with that. If you agree with Lord Sugar hold up the card

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marked, "fire" if you disagreed hold up "hired". I think that's

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hired. A split jury tonight. Happy that. Thanks guys.

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CHEERING AND APPLAUSE We wanted to give you a souvenir of

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your time. It's not a tin of Everydog. It's actually a lot of

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tins of Everydog. APPLAUSE

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Calvin will love that. You made it to Week Five. Here are your

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highlights. I'm fearless. I'm bold and self esteem. I can't do it. I'm

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not from down these parts. Very straight-talking. Be my first sale.

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Make my day. 7.50 and we can do it. Done. That's what I'm talking

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about! If you don't take risks in life, you then you don't get

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Ladies and gentlemen, Ellie Reed. And, that should have been that

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really. We could knock off early, the rest of the night was our own.

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No Lord Sugar wasn't finished. got the feeling you are in too in

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awe of other people and are playing a risky game in strat guise giezing

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by bringing the young people in here. I think a message needs to go

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back. Vincent, you're also fired. Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen,

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Could you do me a favour and not overpower me with your charisma?

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You're beautiful, darling. I'm puty in his hands. When Ellie went, did

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you think, "I'm OK?" A little bit, yeah. The hair flung back and I

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thought we would be OK. I thought he was going to send us back to the

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house, have a go at me and say, "Vincent, step it up" and we would

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go from there, but he made a decision to fire me as well.

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lost, and I know this is a stat you must love hearing, all five tasks.

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LAUGHTER Did I? We can show you a tape if you want. But feel the

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noose tightening? Did you think this is getting more and more

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critical? This was a big task. He decided I was going to be project

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manager. I'm sure we will get into Everydog in a minute. I tried to

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give it our best and do something different. As soon as I knew we had

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lost the task I thought it was game over. I had this dream that one day

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I would walk into this boardroom and you lot were not here. Everydog,

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playing the part for joints and heart. You've lost every single

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task. Never mind Logic, you should be branded tragic.

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The focus group told you don't try that. Size differences, breed

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differences to. Pack all of that into one tin is almost impossible.

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Every cat, every animal, every whatever you want, it is brilliant.

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You are insinuating that that food is good for any dog. Are you not

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worried that Everydog sends the wrong message - that your dog is

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not special? You might as well have called it Any Old Dog.

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Aznar as Vincent is concerned, I've had it with him. APPLAUSE

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When the vet was saying don't call it Everydog, right, don't do the

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thing you are about to do, the thing you are about to do, in your

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head were you seeing the man go... Were you already, was your empire

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the Ever-fish, Ever-cat, Ever- rabbit. It was the EasyJet of the

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pet world. There were two other people. Two other people that were

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at that research group. They look after dogs and both of those said

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we look after all these dogs and we feed them all the same thing.

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Surely you could have called it Most Dogs, and ended up just a tiny

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bit ambitious.. I don't think we pitched it right. It was the dog

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food for adult dogs. It was hearts... I can't remember now.

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Hearts and joints. That was the specific product. The Everydog was

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the brand. Thaund Brad you could have hips -- under that brand cue

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have had hips and shoulders. LAUGHTER Now niche is that. Does

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your dog suffer from weak eyelashes and toenails? Long hair. We created

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this brand. OK, maybe it wasn't the right name but we said Everydog. On

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the advertisement we had every doing you could think of. The

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majority of dogs eat the same thing. You could have had every type of

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dog. These are the usual suspects. I thought it was pretty good.

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pretty familiar with the iconography. I know a police line-

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up when I see one, thank you very much! I get what you are saying.

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You are a dog owner here. Am, yes. Would you buy a product that was

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called every ever? I would. Is it not a bit generic? No, the food we

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buy is a generic dog food. Did you not like your dog? I don't think he

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likes me. That's because you keep giving him rubbish food! Seriously,

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there is nothing wrong. It was good, with a poster. Fantastic. I would

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say the key thing you need to work on, Vincent, are your listening

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skills to. Me that's the one thing you haven't displayed throughout

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the previous five episodes. Sarah? It is a lot of fur coat and

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no knickers really, isn't it? Because you've got the talk but I

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don't know if you've got the back- up. We've certainly got the talk.

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We've been here three hours so far! LAUGHTER Let it down nicely but it

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is three hours of me time! I don't know... I think Debbie is right.

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It's the fact that it wasn't just you, but it it was team and you

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have to listen to other people. They had other ideas and you didn't

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even listen to what they were because you were so adamant to go

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with your own. Don't get us wrong, I regularly work with people who

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are idiots but I listen to them before I tell them they are idiots.

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Unfair to say it if you don't listen to people, because there are

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people you do listen to. You did get Lord Sugar Crosby not choosing

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one man. What hold does he have on you. I feel like I've overslept.

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think he's taken by Jim. Put your hands up. How you doing?

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Busy, busy, busy? He's got Jim to comfort him.

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This is your favourite one. We have considered that point carefully.

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totally agreement I like that one, Jim. Are you happy with that?

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That's just magnificent. LAUGHTER

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APPLAUSE Did he have a special place in your

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heart? Jim's strong, OK? One thing about Jim in that prois that Jim's

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there to win, OK? He is really bang on the money to win. Did I feel in

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awe of him? Did I feel scare of bringing him to the boardroom? No,

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I didn't. People who do well in business, they are talented, one

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thing that they do is they are very good at getting the right people

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around them to make it successful. When I'm presented with this team

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who lost and I'm asked who shall I bring in, for me Jim was a very

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difficult decision to bring him into the boardroom, even though he

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did come up with the name Everydog. What did you think of the bromance?

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Did you think this was a weakness on his part not to bring in Jim

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did. I thought you would have been more tactical and brought him in,

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and you would have read the mood of the boardroom. They were gunning

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for Jim. You may have stayed. I think you bottled it. Yes. What do

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you think of Jim in this situation? I think Jim's absolutely done for.

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Sugar can't wait to strangle him frankly. He is done for. He would

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have loved to have done it this time. Couldn't do it, and then

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angry Sugar spending a week thinking, "I'm going to kill

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somebody" is a fantastic piece of television I suspect. Sarah?

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backed Jim all along. I thought he was really strong in a lot of the

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tasks but he's been quite conniving this week. The fact he's wriggled

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out of being in the boardroom twice, he's the sort of bloke who you went

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out with him and you tried to dump him, he would just say, "No."

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LAUGHTER He would always be there, would he?

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Yes, in the house, under me feet. Credit where it is due to you,

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Vincent, you managed to come up with an exciting new name for a dog

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food. That will be the name of the brand - Pals. Pal is already a name.

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What does it have to do with the food. It is the second biggest dog

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brand in the world, if not the first. Which does lead us naturally

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on to a habit you have that we've noticed over the weeks. In context

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it makes sense, but even out of context, even when it is not even

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Are you worried that you do this? think I might need to get some help

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for that one. It is just, you know, we just try to look smart. It's a

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bit of nerves. This is a pressure cooker, this thingment people

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forget when they are watching it, it is an entertainment show I think,

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but you feel an intense amount of pressure. So much pressure that

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even when naked you are adjusting your tie? Even when I'm naked, Dara.

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Good to know. And now for the moment of truth, here are Lord

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Sugar's comments. Apart from messing up the task, Vincent was

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playing a bit of a game. Bonding with certain people in the process,

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and bringing the wrong people into the boardroom. He comes across as

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very sort of, "This was my idea, I've got a vision" but your ideas

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probably came from someone else. Vincent is a dynamic manager but he

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would lean on Jim a lot. Vincent is all charm and there is maybe a we

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bit more gusto than substance. like straight talkers. He isn't the

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sort of fellow I could go into business with, so Vincent had to go.

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What's your reaction to that? don't think I delivered well enough

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for him. I don't think he saw enough of potentially what I think

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I'm capable of doing actually. Maybe I'm not the type of guy that

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he was looking for. Let's move on to the other team. It was a good

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day for Glenn. Glenn, who knows his light, that he is light... You know

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what I mean. I'm better than anyone else in this process. Can I design.

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Can I create. You know when you have cat's eyes on the road. The

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cat's eyes on the road came from cat's eye... What's with the cat's

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please. No. I think it was pretty good. The size, they've lost their,

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you know, their weight. Don't mess with me. Thank you very much. See

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you later. I'm going to bring everyone together. That's one of my

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greatest skills. It will be alright. It will be fine. He led from if

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front. He won the task. Lucky. Really? Very lucky I thought. There

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were some interesting moments watching that back. For starters

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saying you want to command respect without earning respect from your

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team is a no, no, but what they did was they had at least thought of

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the market and tried to find an angling. You guys had a lot to play

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with. You could have gone premium, niche, in terms of small dog or cat.

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They could have thought about cats. I was really surprised that none of

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you started with the market. You all just started with the concept.

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I thought he emortgaged as an absolute thicko, and frankly he

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will be thrown out on his rather ridiculous ego very shortly.

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saddest thing from this episode is he now will have an inflated sense

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of how well he did. He didn't do well at all. It was by fact that it

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was slightly less shit than the other one. LAUGHTER

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You think that's in three years he will be going, "Hi, I'm Glenn, did

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you see the light?, no, they are light." The vote. Debbie, back to

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Vincent, do you think Lord Sugar was right to fire him? I do,

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Vincent, Kelvin? Absolutely not. I think he would have done just as

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well to have got rid of Natasha, because Vincent had energy and

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belief, and as you've seen tonight, salesmanship. They are very rare

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items. Sarah? Yes, I think so. Mainly because you bottled and

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didn't bring Jim back in, even though I saw that it was loyalty to

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a friend. In the earlier vote it was too close to call. You know

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what to do. Fired or hired?

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Less of a debate this time! You have been fired. It's been a

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pleasure to have you here. Obviously we always like to give a

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gift to somebody when they leave. You are almost unique at having got

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this far in the show never having won a single task. And therefore

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you've never had a treat. AUDIENCE: Ah. Your gift is a one-

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man trip to a spa near you. We've booked awe voucher for a day to get

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treatments and just to have your own little treat to enjoy yourself.

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That's for you, Vincent. CHEERING AND APPLAUSE I've got one

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for you. We have a bumper My positive approach and my natural

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charnel make me stand out from the crowd.

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Someone must want a free massage this this place.

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Thank you. I'm here to work fast. I'm not here to mess around. I

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thought you might like to buy some from us. I know I will be

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remembered long after I'm gone. LAUGHTER

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Ladies and gentlemen, Vincent Disneur!

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CHEERING AND APPLAUSE That's it for tonight. Thanks to

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all my guests. Ellie and Vincent will be on BBC Breakfast tomorrow

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morning. If you would like to join in The Apprentice conversation go

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to the website - bbc.co.uk/apprentice. There you

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will find everything you need to know. You can find details of how

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to take part in the next series. Lord Sugar will be looking for

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another business partner. If you think you've got what it takes to

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go into partnership with him, you can apply now. Next week the teams

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have to make money out of junk. is rubbish. Are you trying the

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sabotage this? Hold on a minute, all I keep hearing is you say you

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keep doing things. We are here to take all your junk. Oh, wow!

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