Episode 6 The Apprentice: You're Fired

This programme contains strong language.

Where is your brains? That's nonsense. This is a disgrace. The

failure's down to you. You're fired. APPLAUSE

Good evening and welcome to The Apprentice: You're Fired. It's task

six in the search for a business partner for Lord Sugar. Once again

with the help of new footage, we're digging the dirt on the one who

ended up on the tip. Now that we're at the halfway point, casting the

eyes over the rest. This week we learned the important lesson that

even when things look their worse, there's joy to be found in a team-

mate's happiness. Sofrpblts he did want money for the furniture.

in the an idiot. Let's meet our panel, junk millionaire, Jason

Moore, Arlene Phillips and Kevin Bridges. Welcome to You're Fired.

APPLAUSE Tonight's task of turning rubbish

into money led to one candidate get being carted away. Edna, I just

don't think that me and you are going to gel in business and I wish

you well, but Edna, you're fired. Please welcome Edna Agbarha.

It's a delight to have you here. For our records, do you have a

degree? I wasn't clear. What's your reaction to the programme? Erm,

just watching it back, it's pretty emotional. The task, the whole

waste management, rubbish, it was a rubbish task for me, to be honest.

You were never going to end up in that trade. It's a world apart from

what I'm used to. Were you flailing through the whole thing? Did you

find it difficult? I think the business modelluals a complicated

model. Going into it we probably underestimated the value of rubbish

to a large extent. I think I learned a lot on the task. Well,

let's have a look and remind ourselves what went wrong.

looked through the directory and made two appointments. I made the

appointments, both of them I found. Edna takes credit where it's simply

not due. I've seen that. Who negotiate whd you found the

plumbers? It was myself. Second time round it was myself and Susie.

When an idea is put forward sometimes Edna will jump on the

back of it, if it's good. Agreed. Hold on, a hear you do things and

then people say you didn't. I think what I've seen here, in the last

couple of weeks and particular today is that you're someone that

wants to take the credit for a lot of things and it just don't stack

That's not a pleasing thing to hear, I presume. Do you think it's

unfair? In terms of my style, what I typically tend to do, I'm

consulttive. If something's not clear, I might just facilitate the

discussion and say right, is this what we're trying to achieve? And

to some extent, that might have been misinterpreted as jumping on

the band wagon. Sometimes I wasn't clear what the idea was. I was more

or less trying to clarify what the idea was. This is your industry. We

saw you at the very start of that. It's not an easy industry to

navigate around, what did you think? I think it was getting on

the band wagon a bit too much for my liking. What did you think?

Arlene? It was one of the hardest things they've ever done. Because,

A, they have to graft, shift loads, so it was weightlifting needed. But

also, the understanding of that industry, I thought they did really

well. Because I know, when you take apart a house, let's say 1930s,

you've got all this wonderful stuff, you call a reclamation centre

because you've been in there and it costs thousands to buy things. Then

all they want to do is take it for you for a favour. You know, it

doesn't stack up. I think it was hard for them to understand quite

buy, sell, rubbish, valuable. Kevin? They showed a lack of

ambition. Go through looking for bank

statements and credit card bills! LAUGHTER

You neekly, Kevin, you thought the project was the identity theft

project. Definitely. You could get millions. They always thank Lord

Sugar when they get fired. Just one person needs to go "lock you".

Let's spice it up a bit. I'm glad it was you on the show. If it was

Zoe, I would struggle to get a word in. It's a physical task, heavy,

your hands, you need gloves. LAUGHTER

Are you, to a certain extent, coming at this from two -- too

academic a role, is what you do too hands on? Maybe I might have talked

up my qualifications a little bit and underplayed the amount of

experience that I do have. I mean I've been in the business for 14

years now, worked in over 30 countries and with a number of

different organisations. I probably should have talked about my

practical experience more than my academic credentials. There was a

point where you were talking and this exchange with Lord Sugar, it

might not have helped. What you have written down here, this should

be game, set and match. You've got the job. I have a proven track

record. I train HR people to be profitable. I train chief

executives how to be betser at their jobs. Really? Do you need

training? No, I don't think so. LAUGHTER

I have an MBA in innovation and entrepreneurialship.

Entrepreneurial innovation? Depending on the task I can apply

myself in a number of ways. That's not something I think everyone else

can say. Sugar is quite make and do. He's

quite a practical in his approach to these things. Did you realise

halfway through the MBA description that this is the wrong tack to

take? The problem is when you're in the boardroom, once you've dug a

hole for yourself you know you've dug that hole and you're trying to

get yourself out of it. And he gives you this look like you're

talking rubbish. You know at that time that you actually are, it's

really hard to get yourself out of the hole. Was there a sense of

disorientation for you? It had been treats, treats, treats for you

until that week. Yeah, every week we'd won. So I'd always been on the

winning side. It was a totally new experience for me, actually losing,

feeling that emotion, just getting to grips with the fact I'm on a

losing team, oh, my goodness, I might be fired, we're not going on

a treat! Did she have the wrong tactic in the boardroom? I don't

think MBA was the front foot there. I have an MBA as it happens. I

would never boast about it on public, apart from public TV. He

doesn't want to hear about that. He wants to hear about costs and

results and cash. He doesn't want to hear about how many degrees you

have. I thought you should say I have seven GCSEs, I have a bronze

swimming certificate... LAUGHTER

You undersold yourself a little bit Edna.

Next time I'm doing a stand-up show I'm going to walk on and say I am

not saying anything funny because I have a HNS in laughter. We have to

lock at programme two when you decided who should do the

presentation. I've looked at your strengths and in my opinion, the

person who I would like to do the three minute presentation at the

trade fair would be... Myself. Why did you announce it like there

had been a murder? The killer is... Me! There was suspension to it.

think that, the clip, the way it come as cross is quite funny. But

there was a bit of a preamble before that and what I'd actually

gone around the room doing just saying look, I think that we're all

playing to our strengths, the reason why I've got Ellie doing

this, Felicity doing the other, melody doing that, because you're

good at presenting, good at the jingles, good at the content

development stuff and then I said, and I have thought about all our

skills and I think I'm going to be the best person to dot presentation

because there was nothing left for me to do. I was trying to put

myself out there. Within that task, was there a calculated rifpbg, were

you like I've got to get my face out here? I was really conscious of,

at the time, if I'm really honest, is that my understanding of Lord

Sugar is he doesn't like people who delegates it all out, so if it goes

wrong, I was somewhere in the backroom hoping it went well, it

was a risk on my part. It was a high profile risk that I took as

well. I thought it was a risk worth taking. You have been forth right

at times. Weak people in business are a waste of space and a limp

hand shake is unforgivable. Fabulous darling. Truly bizarre.

I'm going to share a secret with you guys today... I seek out pain

rather than pleasure. Is that what you call forth right?

It was relatively forth right. What business point exactly were you

trying to make with the pain v pleasure? I think what I was saying

there is that if there's a task to do, I'm not going to start off with

the nice fluffy bits, the easiest things to do. I'm going to start

with the most challenging elements of the task. OK, yeah, yeah. You do

come across as a little saucier than that. That's what I got when I

seen the leather gloves. There were probably guys who would pay

thousands for it. It probably says more about you than the gloves.

did say other guys. You must have been devastated to lose by six quid

as well. Do you know it's the lowest gap ever. I think it's hard

when you meet somebody that's made a fortune from the filth business

to not think that you could get out there and do just the same. You've

made millions through garbage? we clear junk, every day.

sceptical because knowing the Sopranos, Tony soprano he worked in

waste management. LAUGHTER

You could be onto something. Even though you thought he would say

that on national television, you say it a possible Mafia guy, I

think you're a possible Mafia guy. The new breed. Kevin, nice knowing

you. LAUGHTER

You got fired this week, but Zoe had one foot over the cliff and the

other on a banana skin. Zoe, you lost it on this one.

don't know if this price is competitive enough. We should go

lower? No, higher. We're not giving him 100 quid. She missed the point

completely. We'll do it for �100. We won't be using your services

tomorrow. Shit. You would have got the furniture pitch if you had

offered just �50. The other team got it for nothing. So, I'm not an

idiot. You had fallen apart. hadn't fallen apart. I was upset

with myself because you made massive mistakes. You were not good

for team morale. You sat in the corner crying. Zoe has been

forgiven, but she's not going to be forgiven again. Zoe was almost out.

Were you expecting to see Zoe here? Team leader, she's team loser. I

was surprised to see that she didn't go. How did he let her get

away with it? She's like the girl in class that you loathe. He's

building her up for a bigger fall. Maybe. Zoe made the decisions,

please explain, this is one of my favourite episodes ever because I

didn't have a clue really, you know you watch these shows and you go

you're all idiots, I'd do that better. I had no idea. Do you

charge or pay them? We typically charge. We'd like to know. In your

defence every job is different. You have to be on site and guess how

much these things weigh and what we'll get for them. So I applauded

the other team's risk taking, the fact they did it for free. That was

a risk. It paid off. But it could have gone the other way. They were

lucky to get the income they got on those jobs. It's particularly

difficult to pitch in an industry you know nothing about, when you

have one competitor also knows nothing and could do crazy random

stuff like "We'll do it for free!" This week, we'll do it because we

love it. I've been on that, I've -- I'd probably be sitting here,

sitting there. You'd have charged? Yes, I would. We don't take away

stuff for free. That disappeared with the rag and bone man. Most

stuff costs money to get rid of, as I explained to them when they came

and had a presentation and to watch the builders of this world and

everybody else trying to screw you. I loved that builder. I loved him

too. He was on camera and still pulled a fast one.

LAUGHTER I bet there were Janes and

tracksuits in those bags. Zoe's face can often say a thousand words.

You sealed the job, but didn't make the appointment.

Ouch. She's constantly using her eyes or her face or you know,

letting everyone know what she's feeling inside, preferrably you're

lower than I am and I hope you realise it. Would you quaking in

your boots at a look like that? Terrified. It's quite annoying, but

she's fit. LAUGHTER

What due think of Zoe, not just herself, but her strategy?

strategy very much was I think she saw Susie as the weak link.

Commercially she's astute. It's just a lack of experience. We have

reached the moment of truth and let's see what Lord Sugar and your

colleagues have to say about you. Edna, good in the boardroom, plenty

of talk. She had a tendency of claiming that everything that went

right in the task was down to her. She spends the entire task

preparing her situation for the boardroom. She watches the good

things and then tries to take credit for them. Sometimes I'd look

at some of the things she said and she'd be completely wrong.

secured the two appointments we had. But she didn't put any of her

opinions forward. She bangs on a lot about her qualifications, well,

good luck to her. I want somebody with some gut instinct, that's why

I couldn't go into business with Edna. That's why she had to go.

What do you think of that? To be honest, I think a lot of that was

fair. It was my first time in the boardroom. You're being shot down

from different angles. Lord Sugar's a very fair person. He gave me a

few chances to speak up for myself. For some reason I was tongue tied

and kept saying I have an MBA! I was digging this hole further and

further. I don't really think I gave a got account of myself,

probably a few more boardroom experience woz have given me that.

You had too many treats, basically? Too many. Soft and spoiled. I had

too many treats it almost became like the tasks were a hinderance.

APPLAUSE Jason, you had to start a business

from nothing. You weren't lick a rag and bone man. You have no --

weren't like a rag and bone man. was a banker actually. A word not

used in public too often these days. I took about 12 months looking at

business ideas and came across this one in North America. It has been

in existence for a while. I thought I would import the idea. I set up,

I say "we", it was me. You have to say we, because on the phone in

particular they don't think it's just you and a van. I was a man of

many accents. I was on the first truck for nine months or so. Then

we had a second one and they went on and I came off the trucks.

Now to the winning team who had Helen as their charm. You've now

been on a winning team six times. You're like the lucky mascot.

I'm definitely hoping that I'm Logic's good luck charm. We're

nailing this. She was probably just what we needed. We can use this to

make the deal attractive to them. There wouldn't be a charge for it.

Quoting zero for this job is a big risk. We took more of a high-risk

strategy and that's on my head. You've secured the contract.

Fantastic. Well done for making money out of nothing. Six in a row!

It is almost impressive six wins out of six, are you impressed by

Helen? I was really impressed by Helen on this particular programme.

I think she came to the fore. I think that she almost disappeared

from the start of the programme she's almost disappeared, Helen?

Which is she? She came to the fore. I think she's really added strength

to her performance tonight. Whereas Helen's been on the winning team

every week, Tom has had the opposite experience... Until now.

It's boardroom day again. I've lost the last five in a row. I'm the

only person to lose five in a row. And, you know, you have to hope for

the best and plan for the worst. Your profit was � 612. FANFARE

Very good. Yeah I think we've seen Tom's happy

face. I hope he wins for that reason, just to see what he does,

to be told he's won the Apprentice. He'll get naked. Oh, my God, that

was his phrase. Tom's good. He says the right things. He seems to have

been unlucky for a few weeks. think that Tom is full of ideas but

nobody else ever seems to quite listen to him enough. I think

that's a shame. I think he's a little Dark Horse. Tom did very

well. Tom and Jim as a team, not so impressed.

You two Steptoe & Son, you were on the junk patrol.

We are collecting junk. House number 73, there's a skip outside.

Old radiators? No. Old barbeque? Bikes? No. Sorry. It's a nice day,

isn't it. Hello? Hello! I want to rip it down. Oh, hello. Number 42,

That stays. We can't just take that, can we? Not at all, no.

When you came home and your barbeque was just gone, "I left the

barbeque outside in the barbeque area at the front of the house on

the street. Who took the barbeque?" Jim's accent is great. It must be

terrifying a guy with a Derry accent in front of your house

"Number 72 you have five minutes to get out of here." He was not

getting any spapbs from number 73 and he went, "Hello!". I bet they

were behind the couch going "Has the scary man gone away?" Hello, I

can see you moving there. Come on, come out.

We used to have that - well not that. We had megaphones, still do

actually, on the trucks to play jingles through them to draw

attention to the trucks. What jingles did you pick? We tried

elephants, that's our brand, white elephants. We had an elephant

trumpeting. We would go along and play this elephant trumpeting.

Everybody would turn around pretty quickly. Then you'd get old ladies

going like this. It's actually pretty scary. In a suburban street?

Yes. Elephant, quick... Where's our metal?

APPLAUSE The key to being an entrepreneur

you learn by your mistakes. Obviously we learned. I love the

two of them though, they're like a comedy duo, Tom & Jerry or

Morecambe and Wise, I love them together because I think they add a

lightness and freshness to the programme. Because I don't know, I

don't think they realise how odd they are together.

Edna, what did you think of Tom and Jim? I probably got to know Jim

better because we've actually worked together a task, that's when

you really get to know somebody. Jim's strength is in his

negotiation skills. He's quit a charmer as well. From what I know

of Tom, he's quite a cool guy, perhaps his voice needs to be a

little bit more assertive. The guys were pretty robust I think in

voicing their opinions and sometimes, Tom got lost amongst the

rivalry. For the vote on Edna here, what do you think? Should she have

been fired? Sadly, yes. I think it was close. You were unlucky, but

the MBA gig didn't do you favours. No, Zoe, 100%. And Kevin? I think

it should have been Zoe. Let's throw to the audience, you

know what to do, hold up the cards marked fired or hired. Do you

agree? I have to say it's tending towards fired I'm afraid. Sorry

about that. Thank you for your judgment. Now, the all important

issue however, of what to give you. Because it's difficult to know,

sometimes with a dand Kate -- candidate how we remember them.

With you, really... I'll be honest, I will regret

giving these up, I love these so much! Here, erm, yeah. That is very

nice. Carry on doing that. A pleasure to give you these, to

add to what I presume is a vast collection of top quality gloves.

There you go. That's from us. Thank you very much, you're a sweet heart.

They are pre-worn. It might be visible to get them steamed or

something. You made it to the halfway point Edna. You have given

us plenty of highlights. We are going to have so much fun in this

house. Let the good times roll. # Come on baby let the good times

roll # I'm full of surprises, what you see

is not what you get. I'm a passionate and eloquent individual.

Calm down. It's alm about the tunes I'm telling you. -- treats I'm

Enjoy. Fabulous darling, fabulous. Ladies and gentleman, Edna Agbarha.

APPLAUSE And that's it for tonight. Thanks

to my guests. Edna will be on BBC breakfast tomorrow morning. Don't

forget to look at the blog and website at bbc.co.uk/apprentice,

where you'll find loads more content about the show. Can you

find details of how to apply to take part in the next series. If

you have a great business idea or think you have what it takes to go

into partnership with Lord Sugar, this could be your big chance. Next

week the teams have to create a free magazine. I normally black out

in these scenarios. My God, I don't look like that do I? Kind of

thinking dirty secretary. I like this angling. No, I don't. This