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Where is your brains? That's Where is your brains? That's

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nonsense. It's a disgrace. The failure is down to you. You are

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fired, you're fired. You are also fired. You're fired.

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Good evening and welcome to The Good evening and welcome to The

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Apprentice You're Fired. We are three quarters of the

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Lord Sugar's search for his business partner and we will be dissecting

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the ingredients which led to the downfall of Bix Mix. Rarely on this

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show do we see candidates as about the quality of their

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Let's meet our panel, ready-made Let's meet our panel, ready-made

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Let's meet our panel, ready-made entrepreneur, Perween Warsi, comic

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entrepreneur, Perween Warsi, comic entrepreneur, Perween Warsi, comic

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Let's meet our Bob Mortimer and Lord Sugar's aide,

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Karren Brady. Welcome. Tonight's task of creating a new

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brand of biscuits led to one candidate being dipped and dunked.

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Zoe, I'm looking for someone to into business with and if someone

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can't actually perform in the business that they are in, it's not

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going to be able to perform with me. Zoe, you are fired. Thank you.

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Please welcome, Zoe Beresford. Please welcome, Zoe Beresford.

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How are you? Welcome, welcome, How are you? Welcome, welcome,

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Please welcome, Zoe welcome, loving your hair. What's

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your reaction? Another week, another smile really. Really happy,

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yeah. Do you think you came across happier than that - do you think -

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I'm normally a bit happier have been on this series,

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say. There was one smile by the way. Really? Yes, there was one

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smile but it was unfortunately the smile that let me know that this was

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the week you were going to lose the task. It was this smile here.

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I'm here to tell you about your next I'm here to tell you about your next

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task. I want you to create a new brand of biscuit. Whenever the

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candidate goes "Magic, that's the task for me", that's it. Drink

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production is my background, thought I could do it. Obviously

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not. Obviously over the the task, it didn't quite work out.

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Let's look at where it fell apart for you. Zoe, three retailers, no

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orders at all. Have you decision as to what scenario

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could be aimed at? Family, friends, loved ones, school children,

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anything. That's a lot of bases cover with one product. If you are

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trying to appeal to everyone you have gone for very feminine

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packaging. The only thing I'm let down by is the biscuit.

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We were let down by the product. Which you signed off. It's a proper

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old school biscuit, really wheaty, common horrible taste about it.

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LAUGHTER. Zoe, as team leader, you should have been in the factory.

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Let's talk about your taste buds. How over time the taste

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biscuit becomes more brackish horrible as the memory

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lingers. Oh! Did you initially like it or were you just being polite to

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the other two? I mean I'm at fault there. I should have said something,

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but at the end of the day think it was the best idea to go and

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say: actually, it's a rubbish biscuit, don't sell it or anything,

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because they've got to be passionate behind it and I think a badly

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motivated salesperson isn't your best tool. But you work in

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food production. As you may have hinted yourself, was the error

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you didn't go to the factory? Totally. I should have stuck to my

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guns. It was the letdown of this task, it was a bad decision. Yes,

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game over. That's the whole thing. OK, grand. You have experience of

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this, how vital is it that the product is right? That is what you

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are selling, the product, and I was so disappointed to see you being

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fired. I had really high hopes you. Thank you. So that

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disappointing. I think you had the gut feel, you had the instinct, you

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had the experience of the manufacturing, but you didn't go for

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it, you didn't use it and you let somebody else go, and I didn't

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really see the passion behind the quality because that's what

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people pay for. Karren, what did you think of Zoe' performance?

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You know I had really high hopes for You know I had really high hopes for

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you and by the way you really lovely tonight. I think overall, the

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difference I think between you and Helen, if you looked at Helen as

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project manager, Helen was the kind of person that when she made a

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decision she stuck with it and managed to take people with her.

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What happened in your team is it all fell apart. You wanted to go to the

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factory, your instinct was right, you got talked out of it. All of the

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various different things that you questioned, you didn't see through.

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I think that's how in the end the concept got confused, the product

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got confused, and you didn't get orders.

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You never questioned the very idea You never questioned the very idea

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of evening or night biscuits and me that's something that I can't get

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my head round, the idea of a biscuit as an evening item. No. That kind

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of - so by evening time what are you onto? Well, evening,

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items are your cheeses, your crisps, perhaps even a couple of lamb chops.

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LAUGHTER. I don't instantly think of biscuits. I thought it was

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strange that that passed by everyone, they bought

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into this idea that a biscuit could be an evening item. Chocolates

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maybe? Would you eat chocolates at night? But not in its biscuity

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format. Just the pure chocolate experience is fine, it's easy. They

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are too difficult for night time. OK. We are not The X Factor, we

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don't do a big backstory, but life hasn't been without challenges.

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You have had cancer. Twice. Not just once, twice. Right.

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you have it? I have it in the neck and the lymphatic system. Yes.

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age were you? 15 and 18, so that kind of took care of school and

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University. To a huge extent. Because throwing things in front of

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yourself - you saw herself through the process? I think one of the

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things with Zoe is you are an emotional person but it's having

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that backbone to cover up some of your emotions, not to allow them to

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come to the fore. I tell when observing the task if you

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were in a good mood, bad mood, if you were cheesed off, if someone had

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upset you, it was there written your face. Oh man, was it ever

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there? We knew, right. We know they put you under stress, they pile you

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into task after task - Indeed. it is difficult to get on with

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everyone. There will always be somebody you don't get on with or in

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your case really a number of people. You had a fantastic set of clashes.

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I don't care about Mandy. I've said nicely - You haven't said anything

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nicely. Melody is a nightmare to work with. Working with Natasha

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an absolute nightmare. I wish it on my worst enemy. She is

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everywhere, she gets can't. Can you recognise how much

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you wind people up? On and on. It's not unfair, you have made your

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and have to lie on it. Asking, asking, asking. You have sealed the

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job but you didn't make appointment. APPLAUSE

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Have we got a white flag down here Have we got a white flag down here

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somewhere? No, no, you should never apologise for using a phrase "she

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gets where dirt can't", and also you almost punched a phone. I'm telling

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you, why I oughta! That's the passion. That's where it has come

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out maybe. Maybe I should have used my passion for rallying instead.

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Yes, but there were clashes. Obviously in business there's

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to be clashes, presumably you have to handle that? In business,

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you are working with a team, will have some people who are very

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good at it, who use their initiative, who can do their job,

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will completely finish it, but some people are not and you just have to

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learn to manage people differently. Some you coach, some you mentor. You

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can be can be assertive. I've seen that,

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which is good, but when the pressure gets to you, you just blow up.

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process involves big personalities, people who shout and clash. Even

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more so than ever before because the prize is such a big prize this time,

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it's a partnership with Alan and �250,000. A quarter of

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pounds investment into a business, so it's such a huge prize. Actually,

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the personalities are very different. They are not

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want to be an employee, they are people that are

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that have an entrepreneurial business, that have set up a

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business, and I think that brought lots of very different

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characters, lots of quite strong, quite strategic characters,

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think particularly in this task you were trying to manage people that

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had very set thoughts. Melody, she knows what she wants, she goes and

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gets it. She has shown time and time again that she is ruthless in

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championing her own ideas, and managing that is difficult. I really

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warmed to Zoe because of those confrontations because it's

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interesting that her confrontations were always with the people that I

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think us as members of the would have wanted to confront. Tom

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is a popular candidate he had a tough week one idea of

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Emergency, emergency biscuit. So Emergency, emergency biscuit. So

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something has gone wrong, and you need, like, an emergency biscuit.

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Is there any emergency that would Is there any emergency that would

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be an emergency? 999, I've an intruder in my house. I need a

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biscuit. Captain Oates walks out and says "I may be gone some time but

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when I come back I will have a biscuit". If you've suddenly

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forgotten what a circle looks like, you could draw round one. What's

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biscuit size, yes. How great would it be, you are up to your -

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in snow "Oh my God, I might die, but what's this running towards me, it's

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a St Bernard with my biscuits ready to help me through this." Is there

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anything in that? There's something in thinking outside the box and then

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there's not being in the room at all I think sometimes with Tom. I

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I kind of understood the concept was trying to get at, but he does,

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as I think I was saying to Alan the episode, at some point now we've

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got to see Tom come through and let's see actually what exactly is

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it that you are really good at, and let's see a bit more of his

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character, I think. Melody is who we have to blame for possibly one of

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the most incredible things that I have ever seen. I present to you a

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new one act play, brand new to the stage, with the title

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I'd Love a Biccy. I definitely, definitely think that we should do a

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role play. This is my thing. I love communication skills.

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Oh God, do you want to stick a movie on tonight? Hi honey,

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right? Shall we see what's on TV? Leave this on, I love this. Really?

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I love this, I know you want to watch this. OK. They must have

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called a bloke with a white coat you? Do you want a Bix Mix?

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been craving Bix Mix all day. It's not going to be that cheesy.

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There we go, tear and share. because I love you - a very odd way

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to carry on really. That was nice. APPLAUSE

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It would give me great pleasure to It would give me great pleasure to

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perform your script tonight. Myself and Bob will take the roles of

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Melody and Tom within this. Bob? Oh God, do you want to stick a movie

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tonight? Hi honey, what have we on? Leave this on, you know I

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a bluey. OK. LAUGHTER. You know I love this. OK. But as long as

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you've got something decent to eat. Do you know what I have

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craving? Bix Mix all day. Yes, evening biscuit. LAUGHTER. You

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know, when you think about something all day and evening comes, you just

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can't wait to eat it. Bix Mix, mmm, brilliant. Brilliant. Hey, and

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don't worry, I'll snap it first and then I'll share it. Snap and share!

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Ah. And because I love you, I love you, you can have

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chocolate half. Oh actually, I'll stick to the plain one. I've had

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quite a lot of chocolate today. Oh, I do love you. Where was this

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You are kidding me, right? And then You are kidding me, right? And then

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did you pick up from that and go "No, in Swansea". Is that

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essentially what happened? Erm, Melody is the communications expert

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and she is an excellent, excellent sales woman. She persuades anyone

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and, you know, I got done. She persuaded me. It was the weirdest

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thing. Perween, have you ever seen pitch that involved a small one act

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play? I've never experienced, never heard such a stupid pitch. APPLAUSE

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When I first saw it, I thought the hell is going on?", I just

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couldn't understand that. You could see the facial expression of the

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buyers and traders, who were so well trained, so experienced, they

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what they are doing, and they sit there like - have a child's play.

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It's silly. When we were at Waitrose, Nick and I sitting

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waiting for the pitch to start, and the

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the look of complete and utter bewilderment, there was no

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introduction where they said this might show how a product might be

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used, they just went straight into it and everyone thought what is

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happening? It was ridiculous. There's only one reaction to

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pitch like that, which is that I will never have dealings with

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people ever in the few. Do you know what would have been great, if the

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people from the supermarkets had gone: mmm, do you know what I

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don't want to buy? Ah, what do you not want to buy? I don't want to

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anything from these people! If Melody had her way, it wouldn't

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be Bix Mix that we would be looking at but her own unique concept which

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might have gone global as always. Could we make biscuits the new

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popcorn? Biscuits, the new popcorn. Using biscuits as the new popcorn,

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so something like this: MUSIC

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No? I think there's a gap in the No? I think there's a gap in the

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market for that. Any biscuit when you bring it to a focus group

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make as old woman look scared, aaagh, no! I am surprised she didn't

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run out through the window, race down the street. It was the most

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petrifying thing I've ever What was it? She was completely

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of touch with customers. She did not understand that, she doesn't

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listen. She believes believes and that's what

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to do and she goes on and on it. I mean, I'm still, although the

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size of the company is big, still involved in

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development because I would not let any product leave the factory from

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my kitchen until I've tasted them to make sure I'm happy with it and if

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I'm not we have to start all over again. So it's so important to

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that. I think the interesting thing about that clip is

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that Melody's view is: well, what do 10 people in Swansea know? What do

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they know? She didn't get reaction she wanted from her

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product. Instead of actually realising the product doesn't work,

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her view was: well, the marketing, the research group they put

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together, what do they know? it's really important in business

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that you listen to the What is the point of having market

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research if then you say: well, not going to listen to anything you

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say and I'm going to go and do something that I know you don't

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believe in. Bob, what did you think? It's a

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lovely idea. I am incredibly interested in the "new popcorn"

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at the same time I know it's not a lump of biscuit dough

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marshmallow in it. If she could have seen that through, yes, that

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have been great. OK, now, you really shone, one of the finest

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things you did was back in week 7. I think it has got to be 60 is the

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new 30. My concept is hip, as in hip-hop, as in young, as in funny.

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Get your arse out, get the fashion. I like this angle. I thought we came

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up with this hip, which was the digital font, and then I came back

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and it was Vanity Fair text. Do you like that font? Yes, I do. I

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think you are taking all the out of it. He has produced a

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medicinal health feature which just looks idiotic

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name Hip Replacement. I think there was something in Hip Replacement. If

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it was hip, it could have been He designed it in the most flat way

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imaginable so it became Hip Replacement. Coffin Dodger

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- LAUGHTER. I'm not sure there's a market for Coffin Dodger

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magazine. That may have been little too much of a reminder for

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people at that stage. However, the moment of truth, we are going

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what Lord Sugar and your former colleagues have to say about you.

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Zoe made a fundamental mistake. Zoe made a fundamental mistake.

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Where wasn't she? She wasn't in the factory. That's what she does for

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day job. She has her own business making stuff. It always bothers me

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when people aren't able with other pee. I'm not

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at all. She was not very good for bringing the team together. Zoe

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does have strengths, however she is in this business, she does this day

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in day out, were her words, yet she failed to have a clear target

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market. I'm looking for a business partner who trusts their instincts.

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Zoe didn't do that. That's had to go.

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What's your reaction to that? What's your reaction to that?

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Totally agree. Totally agree. Really? Yes, I should have stuck to

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my guns. I think it was a particularly unique team, shall we

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say. Yes. And I literally tried to be all things to all men and I was

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always taught that if everyone wants something different, do what you

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want and then at least one person's happy and maybe I should have stuck

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to that advice. Not a bad piece of advice in this situation. Yes. In

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terms of starting a business, starting with something that you

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believe in, you are passionate about, your company began in your

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kitchen, am I right? with half a dozen samosas, the

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investment of �2.50. It wasn't bad. So when I was looking at the

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supermarkets and saw one supermarket having some samosas, it gave me the

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idea that there was - the people were ready to eat Indian food but I

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was so appalled with the quality of samosas in those days that it was a

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bit of mashed potatoes and carrot shoved in a pastry, I thought how

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embarrassing. This is not Indian food. Indian good is

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delicious, so I went after it the way I did it was testing

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market first. So I sold it to a takeaway, just to see how it would

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sell. Once I was more confident that my products were the right products

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for the market then I started pitching to supermarkets. When I

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pitched to Asda, the company I supply to, I was still at home.

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From �2.50. What's the turnover now? 70 million. OK. APPLAUSE

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The people we are looking for in The people we are looking for in

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this process, for example, and for the next series on, you have

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said they are slightly because of the nature of the prize?

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I think the candidates that Alan is looking for this time are people

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that can sit opposite him table, that have a passion, a

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commitment, have a business idea he is going to give them a quarter

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of a million pounds to turn that into a reality. Actually, I

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even more exciting than a quarter of a million pounds is having him

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your partner. He will give you the guidance, the honesty, and he will

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certainly give you the respect to step up to the plate and deliver

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something. And for the next series, the deadline is? Well actually very

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close now. The closing date for new candidates is this Sunday. So anyone

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at home who is thinking "This is easy, I can do better than that",

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come and have a go. I would strongly encourage anyone to apply because I

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was that person. I sat there, week after week, after week, going "What

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are these idiots doing, all running round, not having a clue?" That was

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me. Was it a good boot camp, as it were, to learn different roles

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business? Yes, it was a fantastic experience and one that only a

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handful of people have ever got would strongly encourage anyone to

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apply. OK. We will give details the end of the show on how to apply.

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Now we move to the winning team. fantastic week for Helen but Jedi

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Jim was the one. His global ideas for his Special Stars biscuits.

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You. You got a bit carried away, Jim. We envisaged a special

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marketing approach. TV You are talking about 20,

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million of promotion. Whatever is current in terms of movies with

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at the moment. Jim had an unlimited budget, links with films and film

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stars. The likes of Harry Potter, the stars and the wizard and

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:24:41.:24:41.

wand and the which had arid's hat. - wizard. Jim, you get the BBIW award,

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the Biggest Bull In The World award. I stand by that.

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That was a little on the cheeky That was a little on the cheeky

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side, wasn't it? Well, there were boundaries and then there's pushing

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the boundaries. I was listening to him in amaze.. It was like: yes, you

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like that film? Yes, we can do that. You don't like the chocolate?

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will change it, change anything you like. He was on a roll, put it that

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way. But actually it wasn't his bull, as Alan called it, that got

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them the order. It's a great concept, a really good concept,

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I think what people really don't understand about the process is they

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have two days to make brand, package and sell a product like that and for

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two days of work that amount of sales is very good. And it is slick

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and polished. Yes, and they do taste good. I know they are in

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prototype, but they taste good, the chocolate quality was good and

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interestingly they listened to the market research. All the kids said:

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flapjacks. Helen said: that's we are going with. So let's hear

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with some of the fans of Wimbledon, which candidates they are backing.

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For men, I like Jim, I love accent. A good talker. The

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his nickname is Jedi Jim is really apt. I think he is really

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hope he wins? I like Tom. He knows what's going on. Helen. Helen is

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my favourite. Favourite of mine is Melody. A little too full of

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herself. Quite annoying and whiny. You're fired! You're fired. You

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We found the dorkiest tennis fans. We found the dorkiest tennis fans.

:26:38.:26:43.

Andy Murray by the way mentioned it on his blog. Thank you very much,

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Andy, saying he got back late one night and watched it. A bit of a

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shock as they used Wandsworth tip, which my old department used to

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overlook. Happy memories for you, Andy. Apparently he is hooked now.

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Focus, Andy. Time for the vote. Perween, do you think Lord Sugar was

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right to fire Zoe? Yes, I think so. Bob? No, I think he should have

:27:12.:27:16.

fired Tom. He was right and I think you know it Zoe, don't you, but good

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luck for the future. Thank you. AUDIENCE: Ah.

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An ah before the vote. OK, red for fired and green for hired. It's

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close one. In fact I'm going to give it to you and say you are hired.

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Every week we present the candidates Every week we present the candidates

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with a gift and something to some work they have done

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sometimes to reflect a possible opportunity that they have missed.

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This is definitely the latter. This is something that I think actually

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could work. It is the first and only and possibly will remain the only

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copy of the magazine Coffin Dodger". APPLAUSE

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They have done a bit of work on it. They have done a bit of work on it.

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It features articles like "No that's not the phone, that's the

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channel changer", and "How to remember the name of that nice lady

:28:23.:28:28.

from the health centre", so that is yours to take away as a memory of

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our process. That's for you. Zoe, you got all the way

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through to week 9, you've done very, very well, let's look at

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Ambition is just something I was Ambition is just something I was

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born with. Come on, it's that angel on your shoulder going: eat me, eat

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me. I thrive under pressure.

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Well done, do you want some sweets? Well done, do you want some sweets?

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Being cheeky, young man, your mother would be very disappointed. Oh my

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God! That was really good. Does my bum look big in this? Oh, hello.

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Ladies and gentlemen, Zoe Beresford. Ladies and gentlemen, Zoe Beresford.

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Ladies and gentlemen, Zoe Beresford. That is all for tonight. Thanks to

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That is all for tonight. Thanks to That is all for tonight. Thanks to

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Ladies and gentlemen, all my guests. Zoe will be on BBC

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Breakfast tomorrow morning and if you want to take part in the next

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series, go to our website. You will find details of how to apply. The

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deadline is this Sunday coming, Sunday 3rd July so if you have

:29:50.:29:53.

great business idea for Lord you only have a few days to get your

:29:53.:29:56.

application in. There's a quarter of a million pounds investment at

:29:56.:30:03.

stake. Next week's task is all about selling and re-investing

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I expect you to sell that stuff and I expect you to sell that stuff and

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smell the bestseller, buy some more and just keep going. First umbrella

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sold for �10, folks. Stop being such an angry person today.

:30:15.:30:19.

just telling you how I feel. Stop embarrassing yourself. Is it

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