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This is not about a job any more.

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This is about me investing £250,000 into a business with one of you.

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Heading to London, 16 potential business partners,

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all keen to kick-start a company.

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Don't try and hide. We're not playing "Where's Wally?" here!

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I'm not looking for Lord Lucan.

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I'm looking for somebody who's going to show me

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that they have the got the business acumen to be my partner.

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On offer, a 50/50 deal with the nation's most demanding investor.

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I put you into a little piddly little business and you made a complete mess of the figures.

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Willing to bankroll new business in tough times,

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Lord Sugar is on the hunt for one winning partnership.

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Basic business principles went right down the drain on this thing!

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You should've all known better!

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-Start the car!

-It's a deal worth fighting for.

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-It's the same thing again!

-No!

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We have an opinion and you don't like it!

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-16 candidates...

-So, basically, we've invented the bin!

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LAUGHTER

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-..12 tough weeks...

-Where am I going?

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-Bloody hell!

-..one life-changing opportunity.

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You're fired! You're fired!

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This is my boardroom and, by the way, this is my money.

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You're fired!

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Previously on The Apprentice...

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Your task is to create an affordable luxury product range.

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..Tom and Ricky went for male grooming.

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It's going to be too fruity for a masculine product.

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..while Adam's team cooked up confectionary.

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Mmm! That is good!

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The tasty treats were a hit.

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This is very, very nice. I could gobble it all up all day!

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-But at the pitches...

-Good morning, ladies and gentlemen.

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..the boys nailed the numbers...

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The UK's market is 862 million right now and growing.

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..while Adam faltered.

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Ideal for Christmas...

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er, birthdays...

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or just for a girly night in.

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For Ricky and Tom, the sweet smell of success.

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Sterling, yours was the better business proposition.

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Jade fought her way into the final.

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I came up with ideas and you all said, yes, yes, yes.

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So if you're such leaders in business, why would not say,

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-"Actually, we'll do this"?

-Nick came under fire.

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I'm still at sea as to why you didn't step in and assert some authority.

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But for Adam, it was the end of the road.

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When you opened your mouths, you threw it all away.

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He became the 12th casualty of the boardroom.

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Adam, you're fired.

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Thank you, Lord Sugar.

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Now, four remain to fight for the chance

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to become Lord Sugar's business partner.

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Oh, here we go. ..Oh? >

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-NICK: Hello. Look what you've done for us! Aw!

-How you doing? Congratulations.

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NICK GIGGLES

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I think it's all down to our business plans, us individually.

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Now we are purely on our own.

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-To finalists.

-To finalists!

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TELEPHONE RINGS

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Hello?

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Yes, it's Lord Sugar here.

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Oh, hi, Lord Sugar.

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In the next 48 hours, I want you to familiarise yourselves

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with the business plans and, er, I'll see you

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-in two days' time, OK?

-OK, brilliant. Thanks very much.

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48 hours to get to know our business plans.

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I've almost forgotten that it's £250,000 we're going for until now.

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-It's a huge, huge life-changing moment.

-It is.

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Let the best - not man, woman - the best person win.

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Just two days for the final four to perfect their business plans.

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With the best record, winning eight tasks and losing just three,

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technology entrepreneur Nick Holzherr.

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I feel great about my business plan

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as an idea. I think it's a fantastic concept and it'll definitely be

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a business that could make millions and millions.

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I think I am a very, very strong contender.

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Next, with seven wins, the youngest survivor.

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23, and running a fine wine investment company

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with a multi-million pound turnover, Tom Gearing.

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As a project manager, I've shown clear strategy, I've taken risks, I've taken responsibility,

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and this is a business plan that's an extension of what I currently do

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every day, so to convince people it's a good idea will be easy for me.

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I'm not worried about the other candidates. Now this is really between me and Lord Sugar.

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Number three, business development manager Jade.

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The last woman standing.

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She's fought hard to get this far, losing six tasks, but winning five.

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I think it's irrelevant that I'm the last female here.

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Business is business at the end of the day.

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I'm motivated, I'm really happy with my business plan.

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I know it will make money

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and I know that's what Lord Sugar's interested in.

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Fighting all the way, recruitment manager Ricky Martin,

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losing five tasks and four times in the final boardroom facing failure.

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I think Lord Sugar is looking for somebody who is not only

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at the top of their game, but somebody who's got so much potential.

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I think he'll find my business plan has something

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that'll pretty much guarantee a return of his investment.

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Everything that I've done in my career,

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in fact, my life to date, is resting on this final.

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Today, last chance for the candidates to prove

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they're the best to invest in.

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I think it's always daunting getting the scrutiny of the business plan,

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but I've got to put forward the best impression of myself as I can.

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I think today's going to be extremely testing.

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I'll be honest and say I am feeling a bit nervous. Nerves will get the best out of me.

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Armed with their business plans, it's off to the City.

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Millions of pounds there.

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New Broad Street House.

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Meeting place for the big guns in British business.

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-Good morning.

-ALL: Good morning, Lord Sugar.

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We're here today in the Institute of Directors.

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One of you will end up being a director

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in a company that I'm going to invest £250,000 in.

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So, today is all about convincing me on your business ideas.

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I know the area of business that you all want to go into,

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but your competition doesn't.

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So now, I want you to pitch to me your ideas in simple terms.

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What is your business idea, Nick?

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It's an online platform that will revolutionise the online grocery market.

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It allows anybody to purchase ingredients for any recipe with a single click.

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My online brain at the moment is ticking over already,

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so I'll be interested to hear how that's going to work.

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-And Tom?

-My idea is a hedge fund that allows people

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to make use of fine wine as an asset class.

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-Hedge fund for wines?

-Yeah, pretty much. Collective investment.

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-Jade?

-Mine is to open the UK's

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largest telemarketing call centre, where consumers will be

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contacted, sold on as leads at a premium rate to the service provider.

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-Does that exist already?

-There are some existing, but not of this volume and size.

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Right.

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And finally, Ricky.

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I'm proposing an ethical and niche recruitment organisation

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looking at areas of therapeutics, new and existing drugs on the market.

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-I'm looking at consumer products, which focus...

-I beg your pardon?

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-Say that again.

-An ethical and professional recruitment organisation.

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I'm looking at sustainability, making sure that people's usage of the environment is reduced.

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Sorry to disappoint you,

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but I haven't understood a word that you've said.

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-Recruitment is all about finding personnel to work for companies.

-It is.

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So just cut the crap and tell me,

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is it a recruitment agency for technical people?

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-Yes, Lord Sugar.

-OK, that's good. That's good.

-Sorry.

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Now, you're going to meet four colleagues of mine.

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They will be studying your business plan

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and talking to you in great detail.

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And tomorrow, they're going to feed that information back to me

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and, based on that information, I will be deciding which one of you

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will be my business partner.

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Hand over your business plans to Nick and Karren

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and I'll see you tomorrow in the boardroom, OK? Off you go.

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This is it, last chance. Just got to stay focused, haven't we?

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HE SIGHS LOUDLY

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It's huge, this. They've never met us before.

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-You don't have that long to make that impression.

-No!

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No pressure to any of us(!)

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I want this money. I want this investment.

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Personal details checked.

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Business plans analysed.

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Career backgrounds scrutinised.

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Time to face four of Lord Sugar's toughest task masters.

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-DOOR OPENS > Hi.

-How are you, Tom?

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-Take a seat.

-Thank you.

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Award-winning Mike Soutar, pioneer of Britain's free magazine industry.

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His job today - seek out the skills to run a cutting-edge company.

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-So, these are pretty serious interviews, aren't they?

-Very.

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-There's a huge amount at stake, isn't there?

-Yeah, that's true.

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-Would you say that you were an experienced interviewee?

-No.

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I've never had an interview before, er, so this is

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-my first day of...

-You've never had a job interview?

-No, I haven't.

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Sharing Lord Sugar's passion for backing new business,

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no-nonsense Margaret Mountford.

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-Margaret, nice to meet you.

-Nice to meet you. Take a seat.

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She's here to spot a candidate's strengths and weed out weaknesses.

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Let's have a look at your CV,

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because intelligence is one of the characteristics

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on which you pride yourself, I think.

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"My intelligence makes my thinking better, my decisions wiser.

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"My intelligence makes people more receptive

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"to the communication of my ideas."

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-I think that is true.

-Modesty becomes SOME people.

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Former Young Entrepreneur Of The Year, Matthew Riley.

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-Nice to meet you.

-Take a seat.

-Thank you.

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Having built a telecoms company worth 350 million,

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he knows what it takes to get to the top.

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-So, if you imagine there's £250,000 sat behind me.

-OK.

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That's Lord Sugar's money and his reputation. My job is to make sure

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he goes into business with someone who'll be successful,

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-hence why I thought I'd say I opened your application.

-Yes.

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There were just so many things in there that basically made me want to be sick.

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Finally, Lord Sugar's former global trouble-shooter, Claude Littner.

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-Take a seat.

-King of the killer question

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and here to find pitfalls in potential partners' plans.

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I have got to say that, um, I'm pretty underwhelmed

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by both your CV and your business plan.

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Frankly, er, it's a pretty grubby little business you're proposing.

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-A grubby business?

-Well, it is, really, isn't it?

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-Explain the business to me, then.

-The call centre will phone people with a very easy script.

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So it's a high-volume business where you can make a lot of money

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if you're putting premiums on just passing over a lead.

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The large sectors that want these qualified leads

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are in solar panels, mobile phones and also in debt.

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But you're trying to sort of capture people who,

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um, really don't want to hear from you.

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In the evening, when I'm at home, I don't want cold calls

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telling me about the fact I can save on my energy bill.

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You've got people who perhaps have fallen into debt

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and you're going to get leads, try and sell those leads on, um, it's...

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It's a bit...unsavoury.

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-How do you reckon Jade's will be on a scale of one to ten?

-Two.

-Three.

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Two, three! RICKY LAUGHS

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LAUGHTER

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Looking at some of the numbers here,

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you haven't provided in your business plan a cash flow.

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That's pretty important. There's not a balance sheet here either.

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-That's quite useful.

-Unfortunately, what's included is included.

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What it shows is that you haven't really got a proper business plan. It's a fact. It's a fact.

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-The other thing that I'm perplexed about...

-Yeah?

-..is that, um...

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month one, you're showing a particular turnover.

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-Yeah.

-That's lovely. The trouble is that you have got no costs.

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-What I've done...

-You've got no costs.

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How do you produce...? I'd like to know, cos this is a real money-winner! Zero overheads!

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-You haven't got a telephone!

-Yeah.

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The overheads have been paid for, there obviously are overheads there.

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But that's... That is part of the £250,000 investment.

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Oh, look, honestly, that's absurd! I've never seen anything like that.

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-It's not the way to do it.

-OK.

-It isn't.

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-250,000 will pay for all data, all employment, all salaries...

-How much have you got left?

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-Nothing. It's £259,000.

-No, no, no!

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In six months, you've blown it?! You've blown it in six months?

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-RICKY: She's out.

-How did it go?

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I got absolutely slaughtered!

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I'd quite like a drink.

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Well, here you are now in the final four, um...

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classifying yourself as Thor in the Nordic Pantheon.

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-Is that right?

-I did, yes.

-Um...

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"Lord Sugar is already a business god, but call me Thor -

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"I am the next generation who, with the backing of the Godfather of business,

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-"I will take over his empire."

-It's an extremely bold statement

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and the point I was trying to put across is, first of all,

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to differentiate myself to other people applying in this process.

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They're not all gods, you mean?

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No, they're not, but what I was trying to say is that

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I think Thor's somebody who is, er,

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a descendant of God, descended from the heavens.

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My point I was trying to put across is I'm somebody who can bring a new dimension to the marketplace.

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You're a reincarnation of Lord Sugar, are you?

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Not a direct reincarnation, but the elements of his career I think I've replicated.

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When I read this business plan - and I read it a few times...

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-Yeah.

-..it looked to me like an academic exercise.

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A very good piece of work you do for an MBA or something like that.

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-OK.

-It didn't look like it was a really good

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piece of work for really starting a business.

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-So tell me in plain English...

-Sure.

-..what the point of the business is.

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Any recipe on the internet or on television, or in a recipe book,

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my system would automatically allow you to purchase

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all the ingredients for that recipe with a single click.

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So, when you click, it would say, "Would you like to buy it from supermarket A, B or C?"

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Give you all the prices for the cumulative sum of all the different ingredients in there.

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It knows what combinations you buy from different websites,

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so you add five different recipes from five different websites to the same shopping basket.

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-It shows you best price combination of ingredients.

-Do I care?

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I don't think anyone's going to be bothered.

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Life is too short. Life is too short.

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-I do think Nick might have a bit of an uphill struggle with his business plan.

-Quite big.

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-Quite ambitious, yeah.

-Complicated.

-A big challenge.

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Nick needs to be careful he's not patronising, careful he's...

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-Listening.

-..exploring what they say to him.

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It's not an essential. It's an irrelevance. It's irrelevant!

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-I think you're not the target market.

-No, I'm not.

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-The target market would say it is a useful tool.

-I wonder about that.

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I struggle. I struggle to know whether that's the case.

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This could become one of the big global players, I do believe that.

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-It's not worth the effort.

-That's not a fair comment, I don't think.

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Every household in the UK would want to use this system.

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-Not just the UK, but internationally.

-Not every household.

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It's a Google or a Facebook, it's got potential to be.

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Dream on.

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RICKY LAUGHS He looks like he's been dragged through a hedge.

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He pulled you through a hedge backwards?

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It's like being under fire.

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It's like being in a war zone.

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I've a glowing employment reference here.

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-I'm going to read it to you.

-OK.

-It says, "What is very evident

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"is Tom's natural ability to focus on the challenge

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"and develop an approach which delivers results."

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It goes on. "I do firmly believe you have

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"an excellent apprentice who truly has the skill sets to deliver."

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-That's pretty good stuff, isn't it?

-Yeah, I'm happy about that.

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-Who do you think said that?

-Um...I'm not sure.

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I'm not sure at all.

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-Actually, it was your father.

-Oh, OK, yeah.

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Your father is an investment banker and the wine company that you run

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is also owned by your father as well as yourself.

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So, how much of your business plan did your father write?

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Er, he didn't write any of it.

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-None of it at all?

-No.

-OK.

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So it would be unfair to characterise you as a daddy's boy?

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I feel so, yeah.

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In this new business, you're selling wine as an investment for people

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-who won't actually ever drink it.

-Yeah, yeah.

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It's a very sophisticated business plan.

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-I've never written anything as sophisticated as this.

-Really? It's actually all my work.

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The investment strategy is what I currently use within my business.

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We have 300 product clients in 21 different countries

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and my father only joined the company after

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we'd already posted revenues of 1.25 million.

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Tonight, I'm want to make shepherd's pie, so I go onto your website,

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I see the recipe, I don't care where I get the ingredients from. I just want to buy them.

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In reality, Joe Bloggs likes to go to maybe a celebrity chef website,

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-get one recipe from there...

-Yeah.

-..get another

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-from another website, another one from website C.

-Who does that?

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-You do purchase four or five recipes at once.

-Who does?

-If you look at young families,

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-there are many...

-Who has time to plan out what they're going to eat?

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Monday's lasagne, Tues... Who does that?

0:19:130:19:17

-Lots of families do that.

-Are there?

-Yes.

-I just don't see it.

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They're busy, they've got two kids or something.

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They want to come in, make a quick meal, get the kids bathed and to bed.

0:19:220:19:26

I agree it's a complex business model, but 52% of people

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use online recipes, so there is a big market for it.

0:19:290:19:32

So your previous business partner,

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we spoke to him and he said your big sort of downfall is focus.

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-Did he say that?

-Yeah.

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I think the key is not focus, it's about success in a business.

0:19:400:19:43

-If it...

-I disagree with you. It's always about focus. It's always about the detail.

0:19:430:19:47

I'm 100% aware that focus is something that

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I need to fo... you know, focus on!

0:19:500:19:53

Your real name is Richard Martin.

0:19:540:19:56

-It is Richard, yes.

-But you call yourself Ricky Martin.

-I do, yes.

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The same as the famous Latino pop star.

0:20:000:20:02

Why is that? Do you really like his music?

0:20:020:20:05

To be brutally honest, using the name Ricky Martin worked

0:20:050:20:08

exceptionally well in sales, people remember the name.

0:20:080:20:11

I'm trying to use any ability I can to get people to remember me.

0:20:110:20:14

You've also got other names as well. You've got Ricky Hype.

0:20:140:20:17

-I have.

-The Superstar Ricky Hype. The Fitness Ricky Hype.

0:20:170:20:22

-Why?

-Outside of business, I've got a hobby,

0:20:220:20:24

which is professional wrestling.

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That's the character I portray in wrestling.

0:20:260:20:28

It all sounds a bit more show business than real business.

0:20:280:20:32

-Yeah.

-Do you think people take you less seriously in business

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because they can't stop imagining you in a pair of Lycra pants?

0:20:350:20:39

You say one of the most interesting thing about you is your upbringing.

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It wasn't conventional.

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Being half-Swiss, I was brought up very focused on outdoor activities.

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Building camps in the forest, woodworking, sewing.

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So, I didn't have a TV.

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So, as soon as you got a computer at 16, you became obsessed with it?

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Yeah, I think not having had it made me want it more.

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And when I did get one, I did spend a lot of time with it.

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So, one could say obsessed - I did turn into a bit of a geek.

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Probably still am a bit of a geek now.

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In your application form,

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you say that you're an incredible businesswoman.

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Did you do any business studies at all at university or college?

0:21:250:21:30

When I was at university, I did graphic design,

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but we did business practice within that.

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But it wasn't business plan writing, it was more just dealing with

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the business side when designing for people.

0:21:380:21:40

-Are you sure about that?

-Well, we did some business modules.

0:21:400:21:44

-Nothing else to tell me?

-No.

0:21:440:21:47

You didn't do a business A-level and get an N? For business?

0:21:470:21:51

-Oh, my business...!

-Oh! THAT little bit of information!

-You know what?

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-For some reason, that's been taken out of my mind for now.

-Seriously?!

0:21:570:22:01

I was known as a BNOC - big name on campus - at university.

0:22:030:22:09

What's that about?

0:22:090:22:10

I was just trying to say that whatever area that I'm in,

0:22:100:22:13

I obviously try and make myself well known.

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-I wondered if you were sure that N stood for name?

-HE LAUGHS

0:22:150:22:19

Yeah.

0:22:190:22:21

I'd like to examine in great detail some of the points

0:22:210:22:24

-you make in your business plan. You want to launch a fund...

-Yeah.

0:22:240:22:28

..and raise £25 million to invest in the wine industry.

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£25 million is a hell of a sum to raise with a company that is

0:22:330:22:36

untested with a young guy who hasn't really got a long track record.

0:22:360:22:40

-It's a big leap, I know.

-That's my problem.

0:22:400:22:43

It's my chance to take what I have now and grow it. I can do it.

0:22:430:22:46

I've proved it over the last two years.

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Why deal with you as opposed to dealing with someone more

0:22:480:22:51

established, who perhaps I've dealt with for 20 years?

0:22:510:22:54

The reason I want to do this is because I've had demand for it,

0:22:540:22:58

I've had people read our articles and go, do you know what?

0:22:580:23:01

-I want to come to you guys.

-It would appear that at the tender age of...

0:23:010:23:04

-How old are you?

-23.

0:23:040:23:06

..23. You claim on your personal statement,

0:23:060:23:09

I am entirely well-rounded.

0:23:090:23:12

-I've learned a lot of business skills...

-You may well have done,

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but that doesn't mean to say you are entirely well-rounded.

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I'm self-assured, confident in my abilities,

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and hopefully I can take that further in life.

0:23:210:23:24

The problem is, you haven't got enough experience and you're 23.

0:23:240:23:27

-Can you raise the money? I say you can't.

-Yeah...

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So, the business concept falls apart before you even start, because I don't think you can raise the money.

0:23:300:23:33

-I think I can sell it, I honestly do.

-I honestly think you can't.

0:23:330:23:37

-OK.

-You can't, because £25 million, that's a fortune.

0:23:370:23:40

He's out.

0:23:440:23:45

-God, you were in there for ages, mate.

-Was I?

-Yeah. How did it go?

0:23:450:23:50

-Erm... Stressful.

-Really?

-Mmm. Tough, it was tough.

0:23:510:23:56

It's tough.

0:23:560:23:57

-Out of ten?

-Two.

-Really?

0:23:570:24:00

-Mmm.

-You look destroyed!

0:24:000:24:03

I've no doubt you can do the recruitment you do every day.

0:24:050:24:07

I don't get whether you've got the business skills to start a business.

0:24:070:24:11

How will you react when the clients haven't come,

0:24:110:24:14

you've employed three people and they're useless and it's all going

0:24:140:24:17

-wrong and you've got Lord Sugar literally all over you like a Rottweiler?

-Yeah.

0:24:170:24:21

For me, I'm not somebody who buckles under pressure.

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The entire process so far has shown that, and I do appreciate that.

0:24:240:24:27

You can't at the end of week say, sorry, Lord Sugar, I didn't hit my targets.

0:24:270:24:31

I've got the backing behind me both academically... My degree's in medical biochemistry,

0:24:310:24:35

my five years in recruitment is in science.

0:24:350:24:38

It's a great story so I can launch that company and say, this is my background.

0:24:380:24:41

-This what I've done. You say there's a brick wall there.

-Yep.

-As cliched as it sounds,

0:24:410:24:45

I feel I'll be the sledgehammer to go through it. I'm going to get to that money,

0:24:450:24:49

and make a success of this and I won't stop until I do that.

0:24:490:24:52

Explain to me your proposed business.

0:24:520:24:55

My proposed business will grow to be the UK's largest telemarketing

0:24:550:25:01

call centre and it will have a few sectors that it focuses on.

0:25:010:25:04

One of them will be debt help, one will be mobile phones

0:25:040:25:07

and one will be energy suppliers.

0:25:070:25:09

In your business plan, you list four different website addresses

0:25:110:25:15

-that you will use to gather data from.

-Yeah.

0:25:150:25:19

-These are valuable assets, then.

-Yeah.

0:25:190:25:21

These are important things. But are these websites that you...?

0:25:210:25:24

-I have purchased them.

-You've purchased them all.

0:25:240:25:26

-Yes, the websites are purchased.

-So, chooseenergysupplier.co.uk.

0:25:260:25:31

Just to take that one, for example. You don't own that website.

0:25:310:25:35

-I've checked.

-I do own four in that...out of those.

0:25:350:25:39

-Chooseenergysupplier.co.uk, I own.

-You own it?

-I bought it.

0:25:390:25:45

-I might have to buy it off you.

-OK.

0:25:470:25:49

The good news is, I'm an entrepreneur. Make me an offer.

0:25:490:25:54

Ooh!

0:25:580:26:01

This quarter of a million pounds, I can see it on that table.

0:26:030:26:06

I don't want one of you three to get it. I want that to be mine.

0:26:060:26:09

Am I going to get a quarter of a million pounds injected into my business?

0:26:090:26:12

Yes. So, I'm going to go in there fighting.

0:26:120:26:15

I just hope he gets as good a grilling as I did.

0:26:200:26:24

I'll be happy then.

0:26:240:26:26

Good morning.

0:26:290:26:30

Well, Ricky, I've been looking forward to this encounter,

0:26:340:26:37

because you present something of an enigma to me.

0:26:370:26:40

-OK.

-Let's start with your personal statement.

-OK.

0:26:400:26:44

Which, frankly, is probably the most crass, obnoxious,

0:26:440:26:49

infantile personal statement that I've had the...

0:26:490:26:53

Not really a pleasure - I've had the opportunity of reading.

0:26:530:26:56

Quite clearly,

0:26:560:26:58

some of the statements you've made are completely ludicrous.

0:26:580:27:02

-Perhaps you would like to comment on them.

-No problem at all.

0:27:020:27:06

You're the best business partner on the planet...

0:27:060:27:08

You stick by that, do you?

0:27:110:27:12

I think I'm an exceptionally good business partner.

0:27:120:27:14

-I think I'm a good potential for the future.

-Hang on a second.

0:27:140:27:17

The best business partner on the PLANET, OK?

0:27:170:27:21

How do you think Ricky's getting on?

0:27:220:27:24

He'll be getting an absolute battering.

0:27:240:27:28

You talk about your possible future business partner

0:27:280:27:33

and you say that you will teach an old dog new tricks.

0:27:330:27:38

Now, I don't really think that's the way you should be speaking about

0:27:380:27:43

a business partner and certainly not somebody like Lord Sugar.

0:27:430:27:46

And I completely agree. It's an immature statement to make

0:27:460:27:50

and one which I regret putting in there.

0:27:500:27:52

The problem is that you're an arrogant fool.

0:27:520:27:57

However, I read your business plan and I was quite impressed.

0:27:570:28:02

-Thank you.

-It was interesting, I think it was well written

0:28:020:28:06

and you've done very well in your career.

0:28:060:28:08

So, I find it a bit puzzling as to why you chose to just write

0:28:080:28:13

such rubbish, such nonsense in your personal statement.

0:28:130:28:16

When I turned up to this process, I had a lot of bravado about me.

0:28:160:28:20

I was happy to say these bold statements to get noticed and get myself heard,

0:28:200:28:24

and I'll be honest to say that throughout this process,

0:28:240:28:27

I've realised a lot about myself and I'm a very different person now.

0:28:270:28:31

Let's move on from this. The economy is not in great shape at the moment.

0:28:310:28:35

-It's not.

-And therefore, to me, it would seem that this is not

0:28:350:28:38

-a great time to start this kind of business.

-I disagree with you entirely.

0:28:380:28:43

Looking at all the research I put within the business plan,

0:28:430:28:46

the economy is showing that recruitment

0:28:460:28:48

is picking up substantially. On the permanent side,

0:28:480:28:51

the confidence in recruitment is growing.

0:28:510:28:53

In the private sector, over the next year, 94% of businesses will either maintain head count or increase.

0:28:530:28:58

The areas which I'm looking at to start with are areas where the economy isn't affected as much.

0:28:580:29:03

-I do believe there's a big market still there.

-OK, that sounds plausible to me.

0:29:030:29:08

If Lord Sugar invested £250,000 today,

0:29:100:29:13

what kind of return would he get at the end of year five?

0:29:130:29:16

Year five, we're looking at £145 million return.

0:29:160:29:20

So, you're saying that he would make £145 million?

0:29:200:29:25

It's very difficult to put an actual figure on how

0:29:250:29:28

we will be performing in three to five years.

0:29:280:29:30

But my job is to try and figure out how realistic those projections are.

0:29:300:29:34

So, you're saying £145 million. That's a decent return.

0:29:340:29:38

-Have you any qualifications in...?

-No, I don't have any qualifications.

0:29:400:29:44

-What experience have you got in hedge funds?

-None in hedge funds.

0:29:440:29:47

-But you're saying to me you're going to go and be a hedge fund.

-Yes.

0:29:470:29:50

-So, would you class yourself as a gambling man?

-I do take a risk from time to time.

0:29:500:29:55

The plan sounds like a pretty big risk to me.

0:29:550:29:57

Rather than thinking we'll start small and grow gradually,

0:29:570:30:01

you're going, bang, £25 million.

0:30:010:30:03

-Yeah.

-The risk profile on this business is huge.

0:30:030:30:06

In term of risk, this is an investment hedge fund, so there's

0:30:060:30:09

going to be some degree of risk, but what better reputation to have

0:30:090:30:12

Lord Sugar as one of the 50% stakeholders in the hedge fund manager?

0:30:120:30:15

I don't think anyone would question whether I could do it, if Lord Sugar backs me.

0:30:150:30:21

You haven't stuck at any job for very long, have you?

0:30:210:30:24

In not a short space of time, you've had six jobs?

0:30:240:30:27

Well, at the end of the day, it is, for me,

0:30:270:30:30

about getting experience and earning more money.

0:30:300:30:33

My business plan is about what I do and the contacts that I have.

0:30:330:30:37

You're right to plan based on something you know about.

0:30:370:30:39

So, I think being successful in business is about people with

0:30:390:30:43

common sense, people getting on with people and relationship building,

0:30:430:30:47

and all of that has taken me to the end of the process.

0:30:470:30:50

It is a very simple business model.

0:30:510:30:53

It's finding new people for new jobs.

0:30:530:30:55

If I start in one area and excel, start niche,

0:30:550:30:58

and this business can think big and we start going throughout the UK, throughout Europe.

0:30:580:31:02

That's where I think Lord Sugar can show me how to do that.

0:31:020:31:05

I've got to say that you actually come across as somebody who's

0:31:050:31:08

thought very hard about the business that you want to pursue.

0:31:080:31:12

So, I've created a prototype and I've integrated it into publishers, into supermarkets.

0:31:130:31:17

So, I've tested the model there. I now want to scale it and I need money to make it work for millions.

0:31:170:31:23

If I get this quarter of a million pounds investment, I can do it.

0:31:240:31:27

I have managed to build up the strategic links,

0:31:270:31:29

I have the expertise and I won't let anyone down.

0:31:290:31:32

-I haven't let anyone down in my life and I won't start doing it now.

-Thank you.

-OK, thanks. Cheers.

0:31:320:31:37

I felt quite emotional at the end of that one.

0:31:410:31:43

-Because it was like putting everything out there.

-Yeah.

0:31:430:31:47

I was almost across the table, like, please believe in me, sort of thing.

0:31:470:31:52

-That's all our interviews done, guys.

-All done.

-That's it.

0:31:540:31:58

There's no affecting it now.

0:31:580:32:00

I think I've got a good chance, but I don't think it's definite at all.

0:32:000:32:05

I don't care if some people bring out a few bad points.

0:32:050:32:07

Nobody's perfect. Much as I'd have said 11 weeks ago,

0:32:070:32:10

I'm the perfect person, whatever, nobody's perfect.

0:32:100:32:14

Getting this investment would be life changing.

0:32:580:33:01

I do have a 100% unique business plan.

0:33:010:33:03

It is something new, something different.

0:33:030:33:06

But if it works, it could be huge.

0:33:060:33:08

I think I'm in pole position at the moment.

0:33:080:33:11

Everyone who's left knows they have to be on the top of their game.

0:33:110:33:14

But am I being too ambitious and a bit too risky?

0:33:140:33:17

If Lord Sugar can look past that then I've got a very good chance of being his business partner.

0:33:170:33:21

I'm adamant that I am a strong enough candidate to be here in

0:33:230:33:27

the final and I know that the business I'm putting forward will make money.

0:33:270:33:31

I've always felt destined to set up my own business,

0:33:340:33:37

so there's no way that I'm going to be a shrinking violet.

0:33:370:33:41

I'm going to fight.

0:33:410:33:43

Well, good afternoon and welcome back to the boardroom again.

0:33:470:33:51

You're here to find me the right partner,

0:34:080:34:11

and the thing is, I'm a pensioner now and I don't want too much

0:34:110:34:16

hard work, I don't want to be in there, in the trenches.

0:34:160:34:20

So, with that in mind, Margaret, where shall we start?

0:34:200:34:23

OK. Start with Jade.

0:34:230:34:25

Basically, what she wants to do is set up a call centre and buy leads.

0:34:250:34:30

Her callers will follow up those leads and then

0:34:300:34:33

when somebody says, I'm interested, she will

0:34:330:34:36

pass them as a sort of qualified lead and get a payment for that.

0:34:360:34:39

My concern on that is, is this something anyone wants any more?

0:34:390:34:43

Do you want disturbing at home with countless phone calls?

0:34:430:34:46

-I certainly don't want to be disturbed at home.

-And I don't.

0:34:460:34:49

I thought one of the biggest flaws within the whole thing was when you look at her business plan,

0:34:490:34:54

you will see that she has bought four different web addresses.

0:34:540:34:58

What I found was, that one of the web addresses was still available for anyone to go and buy.

0:34:580:35:03

So I did.

0:35:030:35:04

HE LAUGHS You bought it, did you?

0:35:040:35:07

I thought perhaps she had a lesson to learn.

0:35:070:35:11

-Mmm.

-I got the idea she's a good salesperson,

0:35:110:35:14

but her business plan demonstrates that in month one, with no staff,

0:35:140:35:18

no office, no nothing, she's making a turnover of £80,000.

0:35:180:35:22

So, I said to her, how do you do it? How? We'd all like to do that.

0:35:220:35:26

She had no answer for it.

0:35:260:35:27

She is sticking to a business she knows a lot about

0:35:270:35:30

and one she's been successful in.

0:35:300:35:32

I asked her about why she had so many jobs in a relatively

0:35:320:35:35

short space of time and she showed, quite rightly, that each time

0:35:350:35:38

she was promoted and then she'd moved on to higher things.

0:35:380:35:41

She's relying on her ability to be persuasive face to face,

0:35:410:35:45

but when she's running a business, she'll not be doing any selling face to face.

0:35:450:35:50

-Claude, talk to me about Ricky?

-I'd love to talk to you about Ricky,

0:35:500:35:53

because his personal statement and application form is just

0:35:530:35:56

so ludicrous and not very respectful to yourself.

0:35:560:35:59

For example, apart from taking over your empire very shortly, he's also

0:35:590:36:03

going to teach an old dog - which I presume he means you - new tricks.

0:36:030:36:07

-Really? Woof, woof!

-That wasn't great.

0:36:070:36:09

He likened himself to the god Thor. He calls you the Godfather.

0:36:090:36:13

Is it now in this modern day and age -

0:36:130:36:16

we might learn something here, Claude - that one has to come

0:36:160:36:19

out with a load of waffle, rather than getting to the point?

0:36:190:36:22

Is it necessary in this day and age, or what?

0:36:220:36:24

In order for people to think they're going to pitch something credibly,

0:36:240:36:27

they think that they have to fill it

0:36:270:36:30

full of big words, and the irony is that his business plan is

0:36:300:36:34

probably the most simple and straightforward of everybody's.

0:36:340:36:38

Right! Simple, straightforward - that's what I'm looking for.

0:36:380:36:41

It's a recruitment business in a niche sector in which

0:36:410:36:44

he is really passionate about.

0:36:440:36:46

Before I met him, I spent a sleepless night with

0:36:460:36:49

excitement at how I was going to rip him apart.

0:36:490:36:53

However, in truth, I'm mesmerised by the guy.

0:36:530:36:57

I believe the real man is the one who has put forward a very good,

0:36:570:37:01

sensible business plan and it's very much akin to what he's been doing.

0:37:010:37:06

-He's the one that has changed the most through the process.

-Yeah.

0:37:060:37:10

I worry that he has a streak in his character that when he's

0:37:100:37:13

in a business situation, he is going to come out with something silly.

0:37:130:37:16

-Shall we move on? Let's talk about Nick.

-He is an entrepreneur.

0:37:160:37:23

Straight from university, he's set up three businesses.

0:37:230:37:27

He's obsessed with this idea that he's had this unconventional

0:37:270:37:30

-background, no television, outdoors a lot.

-Where was he living, a nunnery, then?!

0:37:300:37:34

-I think he lived in Switzerland.

-Is he a monk?!

0:37:340:37:37

This is a guy who's very bright,

0:37:370:37:40

but his business plan looks like an MBA project.

0:37:400:37:43

I don't know how clever it is, how worthwhile it is.

0:37:430:37:45

His idea is an automated website that if you put your recipe in,

0:37:450:37:51

it will place the order online at a supermarket, is that right?

0:37:510:37:55

-That's right.

-He's aiming at people who watch a cookery programme

0:37:550:37:58

on television, will go straight to the internet to download the recipe.

0:37:580:38:01

You've seen these social networking sites and things like that,

0:38:010:38:04

which, some of them are valued at billions.

0:38:040:38:07

Recipes doesn't kind of ring the bells of the NASDAQ people.

0:38:070:38:12

I asked him how much you would make if you invested £250,000.

0:38:120:38:17

He said after five years, we'd sell the company

0:38:170:38:20

and Lord Sugar would have £145 million.

0:38:200:38:22

Is that all? Oh, dear. Waste of time, isn't it, really(?)

0:38:220:38:27

-Yeah, it's a bit optimistic, isn't it?

-I think so.

0:38:270:38:30

The one thing I would say is that whenever a task is

0:38:300:38:33

centred around an internet site, he has excelled at that.

0:38:330:38:36

Yes. So, anyway, Mike, what about Tom?

0:38:360:38:41

Tom wants to start a fine wine investment fund.

0:38:410:38:46

So, big risk, but potentially very big returns.

0:38:460:38:50

-Does he like the prospect of being a bit of a gambler?

-I think so.

0:38:500:38:54

I think he's a real risk-taker. He's got a business at the moment that he started from scratch

0:38:540:38:59

and he's been very successful. He has lived quite a charmed existence, I'd say.

0:38:590:39:03

Can't be that charmed, he's a West Ham supporter!

0:39:030:39:05

THEY LAUGH

0:39:050:39:07

-How many millions does he want?

-25 million.

-And he's 23 years old?

-Yep.

0:39:070:39:12

He's only 23 years old, only got two years experience in this business.

0:39:120:39:15

-That's not a lot.

-I think it's very unfair that you say 23.

0:39:150:39:19

At 23, I was running a football club.

0:39:190:39:21

There are some very strong individuals who are young

0:39:210:39:24

that understand the business and can make a success.

0:39:240:39:27

-OK, I got it.

-Alan, you were one of them.

0:39:270:39:29

When you were young, you went from hi-fi, into computers, into satellite, into football.

0:39:290:39:33

-All risks.

-Yes. But it was all a risk of my money.

0:39:330:39:38

It's interesting, because when I read the business plan,

0:39:380:39:41

which is one of best written business plans I've ever read...

0:39:410:39:44

-Really?

-He was very convincing.

0:39:440:39:46

It has got the potential for earning a lot of money,

0:39:460:39:49

becoming a very big business.

0:39:490:39:51

But my point would be that this guy needs to

0:39:510:39:53

kind of tone down his ambition somewhat.

0:39:530:39:56

Well, as ever, that's been very interesting.

0:39:570:40:01

I have got to speak to these people shortly

0:40:010:40:05

and I'm going decide which one of them will be my business partner.

0:40:050:40:10

So, thanks a lot for all the input you gave me.

0:40:100:40:13

Thank you.

0:40:130:40:14

PHONE RINGS

0:40:270:40:29

-Can you send the four candidates in, please?

-Yes, Lord Sugar.

0:40:290:40:32

-Thank you.

-You can go through to the boardroom now.

0:40:320:40:35

Well, you had a busy day yesterday with my four advisors

0:40:490:40:53

and I've had a chat with them and they've given me quite a lot of insight.

0:40:530:40:58

Now, Jade,

0:40:580:41:00

this is a call centre with the sole purpose of raising leads.

0:41:000:41:04

There's a lot of money to be made within that sector,

0:41:040:41:07

if you buy the right data and sell them to the right people.

0:41:070:41:10

There's me with the old Lord Sugar hat on. I'm in a business which phones people up

0:41:100:41:14

at eight o'clock in the morning and annoys them...

0:41:140:41:16

-10:00.

-..and phones them on Sunday afternoon

0:41:160:41:19

while they're relaxing and annoys them even more,

0:41:190:41:22

and I'm sitting here like a dartboard, you know?

0:41:220:41:24

I'm thinking, yes, this is great headlines for our newspaper.

0:41:240:41:28

-You tell me why it's nothing to do with that.

-OK.

0:41:280:41:32

People have to actually tick a box to say, I will hear from third parties.

0:41:320:41:35

I'm legally allowed to phone it, because I'm the third party.

0:41:350:41:39

So, it is regulated and you can make a lot of money from it,

0:41:390:41:43

-and it's very simple.

-Good, that's what it says in the rule book.

0:41:430:41:46

I want to hear about how you go about doing it.

0:41:460:41:49

I know what data will work to get the highest conversion rates

0:41:490:41:52

when people phone it. I've worked in a call centre environment

0:41:520:41:55

-and I'm good at motivating.

-I don't think anyone would doubt,

0:41:550:41:58

having worked with you on task, that you've got plenty of enthusiasm.

0:41:580:42:02

But one of the things that we heard from Lord Sugar's advisors was that the business plan just fell apart.

0:42:020:42:08

You run out of money after six months.

0:42:080:42:11

Within six months' time, but within three months,

0:42:110:42:14

money would start coming in. It's not glamorous,

0:42:140:42:17

-but it does make a lot of money.

-All right, I'll move on a little.

0:42:170:42:20

Tom, you are proposing to put my name, my association,

0:42:200:42:27

and to go and ask external investors to invest up to £25 million in wine.

0:42:270:42:33

How are you going to convince me that's the way it should be done?

0:42:330:42:36

What I currently do, there's a saturation point,

0:42:360:42:38

and I think we're very close to that point.

0:42:380:42:40

-Your existing business is trading in wines.

-That's correct.

0:42:400:42:45

Over the last two years, I have been approached by people who want to

0:42:450:42:49

include fine wine investment within a self-investment pension plan.

0:42:490:42:52

-I've been in the property business for a few years.

-Yeah.

0:42:520:42:55

And I've had every fly boy on the planet come along to me

0:42:550:42:58

saying, I'm going to start a fund up and I want to use

0:42:580:43:01

your name in the fund. And suddenly, instinct said to me, no. Not really.

0:43:010:43:05

But fine wine is different to that.

0:43:050:43:06

It's all about the investment strategy, sourcing the wine, choosing the right vintages.

0:43:060:43:10

-But like everything in life, there's no guarantee.

-Of course.

0:43:100:43:14

At the moment, the Far East market is rampant.

0:43:140:43:17

All it just needs is one day for some analyst to stand up

0:43:170:43:20

and say, the Chinese are sick of wine now,

0:43:200:43:22

and bang goes your Chateau Monchamp, or whatever it is,

0:43:220:43:25

goes flying down from 200 quid a bottle, down to 50 quid

0:43:250:43:28

-and then you're stuck with it.

-But fine wine is a luxury good and all those companies

0:43:280:43:32

are expanding into Asia, and they wouldn't be doing that unless

0:43:320:43:35

they felt this market was robust enough in that region.

0:43:350:43:38

-You've got a wine business at the moment which is making a bit of money.

-Yeah.

0:43:380:43:41

Don't you think your business plan is trying to run before you can walk?

0:43:410:43:45

I would make big claims if I didn't think I could fulfil them and I wouldn't come here

0:43:450:43:49

-unless I've had previous enquiries that I've had to turn down.

-OK. Ricky.

0:43:490:43:54

Now, I understand that you're going to teach an old dog some new tricks.

0:43:540:43:59

I'm the old dog here, yeah? I'll get on my hind legs and listen.

0:43:590:44:03

You say, "Lord Sugar is getting to the later stage in his career,

0:44:030:44:08

"where he's going to start thinking about succession planning."

0:44:080:44:12

Have I got to let my kids know about your new dadda coming, or what?

0:44:120:44:16

If I'm very honest with you, Lord Sugar, what I've learned in

0:44:160:44:19

11 weeks, in business, it's actions that speak volumes, not your mouth.

0:44:190:44:23

-I should shut my trap a lot more.

-I had comments from people saying,

0:44:230:44:26

can we separate the showman from the real business man? But the one good thing going for you,

0:44:260:44:31

when I've cut through all your waffle, is that you want to start a recruitment agency in what

0:44:310:44:36

-I would call a niche market that specialises in scientific industry.

-Yes, the market is huge.

0:44:360:44:41

The pharmaceutical and biotechnology, and every other scientific industry in the UK,

0:44:410:44:45

is much larger than what I deal with now. So, I'm looking at other organisations who know me

0:44:450:44:49

-from my reputation, but don't deal with me...

-They know you for you reputation already?

0:44:490:44:53

-Yes, I've placed a number...

-You're an icon in the pharmaceutical industry?

0:44:530:44:57

I've placed several hundred people into professional jobs across the UK.

0:44:570:45:00

I've got a large list of recommendations, testaments,

0:45:000:45:03

based upon the experience they've had with me.

0:45:030:45:06

You've gone to a lot of detail in this business model.

0:45:060:45:09

I hope you're going to invite me along to

0:45:090:45:11

the fourth year's Christmas party. You've got funds in there allocated

0:45:110:45:15

for how much you're spending at the Christmas party.

0:45:150:45:18

-Yeah!

-Very forward thinking.

0:45:180:45:19

-But I wanted it to be as detailed as possible.

-Good.

0:45:190:45:23

So, Nick, this business model of yours,

0:45:230:45:26

which is effectively some kind of system of translating

0:45:260:45:30

your menus into your purchasing list at an online grocer.

0:45:300:45:34

-Exactly.

-That is an enormous software task,

0:45:340:45:38

and I think I asked myself this - why?

0:45:380:45:41

The amount of work and effort that's going to be involved in it.

0:45:410:45:45

-Where am I missing the point?

-I'm seeing two questions.

0:45:450:45:48

First, it achievable? And second, is it useful if you do achieve it?

0:45:480:45:52

It's achievable, I get that. But so's sending the man to the moon.

0:45:520:45:56

What are we going to get out of it at the end?

0:45:560:45:58

People currently go shopping for ingredients,

0:45:580:46:00

but what they're looking for is recipes.

0:46:000:46:02

-How do you know that?

-It's what I do, it's what lot of friends do.

0:46:020:46:05

-It's what I understood people do.

-But who could be bothered with it?

0:46:050:46:09

I'm thinking about, darling, get me a spaghetti carbonara tonight.

0:46:090:46:12

Get my programme out here and I'll go into that and order this,

0:46:120:46:15

and it will go off like that. It's four quid of purchasing

0:46:150:46:18

and this is like a trillion man-hours of software writing.

0:46:180:46:23

By the time I've typed it all in there, I could've gone out

0:46:230:46:26

to the local restaurant and picked it up myself.

0:46:260:46:28

My only defence for that is that I have got a fully working prototype.

0:46:280:46:32

I have got real publishers who have integrated this button, and it does

0:46:320:46:35

work on their websites and it really could become a very big player.

0:46:350:46:38

Nick, why should I favour you over these other people?

0:46:380:46:42

I think with the business plan, mine is a genuinely new idea.

0:46:420:46:46

Comparing it to everyone else, I don't think the ideas are that innovative.

0:46:460:46:50

They're ordinary businesses that will make money, but probably not a huge amount.

0:46:500:46:54

-Rick, you've got a smile on your face.

-I've got a smile on my face

0:46:540:46:57

because you think ours are quite ordinary. But your business plan might be innovative,

0:46:570:47:00

but you haven't got experience in that industry.

0:47:000:47:03

I have been running a software company for 18, 24 months, and that

0:47:030:47:06

is essentially what I'm proposing here, is a software business.

0:47:060:47:09

What happens when another great idea pops in your head

0:47:090:47:11

-and you haven't made any more money?

-So, Ricky, why should I choose you?

0:47:110:47:14

You should choose me as your business partner,

0:47:140:47:17

because I have extensive experience in exactly what I do.

0:47:170:47:20

I think I've taken the most out of yourself, Nick and Karren.

0:47:200:47:23

When you've told things to happen, I've made them happen.

0:47:230:47:25

I don't want someone who's just a bit of a yes man.

0:47:250:47:28

I'm going to be running this business, Lord Sugar.

0:47:280:47:30

I don't think you need to tell me what to do.

0:47:300:47:33

Four business plans and I do see

0:47:350:47:39

some light at the end of the tunnel in all four of them, to be frank.

0:47:390:47:42

I think I've got to kind of make some decisions now, really.

0:47:430:47:48

Tom, I've got this worrying concern that

0:47:520:47:59

someone of my position in society, so to speak,

0:47:590:48:03

cannot afford to be involved in something that goes wrong.

0:48:030:48:08

It's not as if everything I've done has gone right in my life.

0:48:080:48:12

It hasn't. Trust me, I've made lots and lots of mistakes.

0:48:120:48:15

But this could be a calamity with my name associated to it.

0:48:150:48:19

-Do you understand what I mean?

-Yes.

0:48:190:48:22

And Nick, you know,

0:48:230:48:25

I remember on one occasion that the team was asked, we need to

0:48:250:48:30

take someone over to the team, and they all chose you straightaway.

0:48:300:48:34

So, you've clearly got something there.

0:48:340:48:37

You've clearly got something there.

0:48:370:48:39

But I've just got to think about the viability of this business model of yours.

0:48:390:48:45

Ricky. Ricky Ratchet Jaws.

0:48:500:48:53

-At the end of the day, your business plan is a recruitment agency.

-It is.

0:48:530:48:57

You've worked for someone for a long time in the field,

0:48:570:49:00

you're an expert in the field. I can understand how yours can work.

0:49:000:49:04

Jade, I reckon you are a great sales lady.

0:49:070:49:11

I think I would be a good manager and motivator as well. To a tee.

0:49:110:49:15

-I like your enthusiasm and all that stuff.

-Thank you.

0:49:150:49:19

But I'm not sure whether I want to put my name to something

0:49:190:49:23

where perhaps I would be looked as disturbing people at home, really.

0:49:230:49:27

So, I'm not going to mess around here, Jade.

0:49:300:49:33

-I don't think that you are my business partner, to be honest.

-OK.

0:49:330:49:37

I have enjoyed your presence here.

0:49:390:49:42

-Don't give up the dream of having your own business.

-I won't.

0:49:420:49:46

On this occasion, I've got to say to you with regret...

0:49:460:49:48

..Jade, you're fired.

0:49:490:49:52

Thank you very much. OK. Good luck, guys.

0:49:520:49:55

It's a tough one, because I've got three very bright fellas here.

0:50:110:50:17

I think, on balance, Tom...

0:50:190:50:23

£25 million.

0:50:260:50:30

I might like to think about throttling back on your ambition.

0:50:300:50:36

Yep.

0:50:360:50:38

Ricky, I've always got this underlying worry about this

0:50:390:50:44

madness where you came into this process, telling me

0:50:440:50:47

how great you was, going to teach the old dog new tricks and all that.

0:50:470:50:52

You say you've learned to stop bigging yourself up.

0:50:520:50:56

I wonder whether you have.

0:50:560:50:59

I think, Nick, you're obviously a very intelligent fella.

0:51:010:51:04

But I told you a long time ago

0:51:040:51:06

when you came into this process that I ain't going to do any work here.

0:51:060:51:10

Yep.

0:51:100:51:12

And I can already feel myself getting dragged into this thing

0:51:120:51:15

in the sense of the enormity of this task.

0:51:150:51:18

What I don't really understand is where the money is, to be honest.

0:51:190:51:24

I ain't got it here on menus and recipes.

0:51:260:51:30

And for that reason, Nick, I'm going to say on this occasion that...

0:51:330:51:40

-..you're fired.

-Thanks for the experience.

0:51:410:51:45

Good luck, guys.

0:51:470:51:48

Well, that just leaves me with you two. Big headache here.

0:52:040:52:07

Big, big headache.

0:52:070:52:09

I could do with some of your wine, maybe, to relax.

0:52:090:52:12

I'd like you to step outside.

0:52:140:52:16

I'm going to have a final chat with Nick and Karren.

0:52:160:52:22

And when you come back in here,

0:52:220:52:23

I'm going to decide which one of you is going to be my business partner.

0:52:230:52:27

-Off you go.

-Thank you.

-Thank you.

0:52:270:52:30

These two guys actually want to be in the business that they've been in, which is very credible.

0:52:410:52:47

Tom's business, you're quite right, is a risky business.

0:52:470:52:51

If you just throttled him back on his first year ambitions,

0:52:520:52:56

I think his business would be electrically exciting.

0:52:560:53:00

Fast-moving, tremendous returns to be made.

0:53:000:53:03

But I have never done business with other people's money.

0:53:040:53:08

That is the problem.

0:53:080:53:10

Do you really want a pedestrian recruitment business?

0:53:100:53:13

Or do you want one last final hurrah?

0:53:130:53:17

Ricky has great credibility in the field, he's got a degree in it,

0:53:170:53:22

and you shouldn't rule out Ricky because he's safe.

0:53:220:53:25

PHONE RINGS

0:53:250:53:27

Lord Sugar will see you now.

0:53:270:53:31

Well, gentlemen, you are down to these last two.

0:53:430:53:46

That in itself is an amazing achievement.

0:53:460:53:49

I've had a chat with Nick and Karren.

0:53:490:53:55

I mean, Tom, it says here that in your first full year of trading

0:53:550:53:58

of this business of yours, you posted a turnover of £1.25 million.

0:53:580:54:03

-Yeah.

-Now, that's bloody good.

-Yeah.

0:54:030:54:06

And the thing is with this hedge fund and wine business,

0:54:060:54:09

-I might not mind doing it once I have a comfort feel about you.

-Yeah.

0:54:090:54:14

And it's not until you get down and working with somebody that

0:54:140:54:17

-you can say, you know what? Let's go to that next level.

-OK.

0:54:170:54:21

I did send out a little message to you about tailoring back your ambitions.

0:54:210:54:26

My target would be 25 million. But it doesn't have to be that. We can tailor that back.

0:54:260:54:30

If there was a proposal on the table, I'd be a fool not to listen to that.

0:54:300:54:34

This could be a very exciting business, this wine business, but his proposition is much simpler.

0:54:340:54:39

There's a man that's done it before. Already working for a firm.

0:54:390:54:43

All he wants to do is do what I did when I was 17 years old,

0:54:430:54:46

walk out of a firm that I worked for and start my own business.

0:54:460:54:50

-OK.

-I think that's what you want to do.

-I've always wanted my own organisation.

0:54:500:54:53

I have experience at one of the best places in the country,

0:54:530:54:56

and it's my time to set up my own and run forward a bit.

0:54:560:54:59

-So, when you've made your millions...

-Yes.

-..would you invest in his hedge fund?

-Not at all.

0:54:590:55:03

-I don't know anything about wine. It's nothing that interests me or excites me.

-Me as a person?

0:55:030:55:09

You as a person, I think you're fantastic. The wine industry isn't for me.

0:55:090:55:12

So, tell me, why should I invest with you and not him?

0:55:120:55:16

I'm a fantastic prospect for the future.

0:55:160:55:19

I'm somebody who's channelled his own career to

0:55:190:55:22

the point we're at, sitting opposite you now.

0:55:220:55:24

With me, I'm not a risk for you.

0:55:240:55:26

Tom, you know, do you think you're a bit of a risk-taker?

0:55:260:55:30

Yes, I do like to take a risk,

0:55:300:55:33

and if I think I'm right in something then I will back myself.

0:55:330:55:36

The difference between myself and Ricky is, I've been there,

0:55:360:55:38

I've done it in terms of setting up a company and running one,

0:55:380:55:41

and the risk with Ricky is that he hasn't actually been there.

0:55:410:55:44

He may know his field very well, but I've proven I can be successful,

0:55:440:55:47

it can be profitable, and I've shown I can grow my turnover year on year.

0:55:470:55:51

It's a very, very difficult moment for me right now.

0:55:520:55:58

I'll tell you where I am at.

0:55:580:56:01

Yours is very straightforward and I am wondering...

0:56:030:56:07

I'm not getting any younger, I suppose,

0:56:070:56:10

and I'm here to give a bit of help to somebody.

0:56:100:56:14

From time to time. A bit of guidance.

0:56:150:56:18

Yours is the simpler business.

0:56:180:56:20

He's known me a long time and he knows I've got

0:56:210:56:24

a bit of a devil in me about wanting to have a little gamble here

0:56:240:56:27

and there, go into something which I haven't done before.

0:56:270:56:31

His business, it offers that kind of bit of devilment, this wine thing.

0:56:310:56:37

A bit of safety over here, and there's a bit of devilment

0:56:380:56:43

over there, and that's really where I'm stuck at the moment.

0:56:430:56:49

Because, to be honest with you,

0:56:490:56:51

you're both credible people to invest the money in.

0:56:510:56:54

So, is it the devil or is it the safety?

0:56:540:56:56

I've got to make a decision.

0:57:050:57:07

And I should keep to my ethos of keeping it simple,

0:57:140:57:18

keeping it straightforward and so, Ricky,

0:57:180:57:22

you're going to be my business partner.

0:57:220:57:25

Ricky, you're hired.

0:57:250:57:26

-Fantastic, thank you very much. Thank you.

-Well done.

0:57:260:57:30

Thanks a lot.

0:57:300:57:31

Knowing that I've won this process,

0:57:460:57:49

I can't formulate or articulate the words to say what it means.

0:57:490:57:52

It's the recognition that everything that I've done has been worthwhile and it's important for me

0:57:520:57:57

that people see that there's more to me than first meets the eye.

0:57:570:58:01

Lord Sugar and I will be a powerful force to reckon with.

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16 candidates, one winner.

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Lord Sugar's search for his business partner is over.

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