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This is not about a job any more. | 0:00:02 | 0:00:05 | |
This is about me investing £250,000 into a business with one of you. | 0:00:05 | 0:00:11 | |
Heading to London, 16 potential business partners, | 0:00:11 | 0:00:15 | |
all keen to kick-start a company. | 0:00:15 | 0:00:19 | |
Don't try and hide. We're not playing "Where's Wally?" here! | 0:00:19 | 0:00:23 | |
I'm not looking for Lord Lucan. | 0:00:23 | 0:00:25 | |
I'm looking for somebody who's going to show me | 0:00:25 | 0:00:27 | |
that they have the got the business acumen to be my partner. | 0:00:27 | 0:00:31 | |
On offer, a 50/50 deal with the nation's most demanding investor. | 0:00:31 | 0:00:36 | |
I put you into a little piddly little business and you made a complete mess of the figures. | 0:00:36 | 0:00:41 | |
Willing to bankroll new business in tough times, | 0:00:41 | 0:00:44 | |
Lord Sugar is on the hunt for one winning partnership. | 0:00:44 | 0:00:48 | |
Basic business principles went right down the drain on this thing! | 0:00:48 | 0:00:52 | |
You should've all known better! | 0:00:52 | 0:00:54 | |
-Start the car! -It's a deal worth fighting for. | 0:00:54 | 0:00:57 | |
-It's the same thing again! -No! | 0:00:57 | 0:00:59 | |
We have an opinion and you don't like it! | 0:00:59 | 0:01:01 | |
-16 candidates... -So, basically, we've invented the bin! | 0:01:01 | 0:01:05 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:01:05 | 0:01:06 | |
-..12 tough weeks... -Where am I going? | 0:01:06 | 0:01:09 | |
-Bloody hell! -..one life-changing opportunity. | 0:01:10 | 0:01:14 | |
You're fired! You're fired! | 0:01:14 | 0:01:16 | |
This is my boardroom and, by the way, this is my money. | 0:01:16 | 0:01:19 | |
You're fired! | 0:01:19 | 0:01:20 | |
Previously on The Apprentice... | 0:01:28 | 0:01:30 | |
Your task is to create an affordable luxury product range. | 0:01:30 | 0:01:35 | |
..Tom and Ricky went for male grooming. | 0:01:35 | 0:01:38 | |
It's going to be too fruity for a masculine product. | 0:01:38 | 0:01:41 | |
..while Adam's team cooked up confectionary. | 0:01:41 | 0:01:44 | |
Mmm! That is good! | 0:01:44 | 0:01:46 | |
The tasty treats were a hit. | 0:01:46 | 0:01:48 | |
This is very, very nice. I could gobble it all up all day! | 0:01:48 | 0:01:52 | |
-But at the pitches... -Good morning, ladies and gentlemen. | 0:01:52 | 0:01:54 | |
..the boys nailed the numbers... | 0:01:54 | 0:01:57 | |
The UK's market is 862 million right now and growing. | 0:01:57 | 0:02:00 | |
..while Adam faltered. | 0:02:00 | 0:02:03 | |
Ideal for Christmas... | 0:02:03 | 0:02:05 | |
er, birthdays... | 0:02:05 | 0:02:08 | |
or just for a girly night in. | 0:02:08 | 0:02:10 | |
For Ricky and Tom, the sweet smell of success. | 0:02:10 | 0:02:13 | |
Sterling, yours was the better business proposition. | 0:02:13 | 0:02:17 | |
Jade fought her way into the final. | 0:02:18 | 0:02:20 | |
I came up with ideas and you all said, yes, yes, yes. | 0:02:20 | 0:02:24 | |
So if you're such leaders in business, why would not say, | 0:02:24 | 0:02:27 | |
-"Actually, we'll do this"? -Nick came under fire. | 0:02:27 | 0:02:30 | |
I'm still at sea as to why you didn't step in and assert some authority. | 0:02:30 | 0:02:35 | |
But for Adam, it was the end of the road. | 0:02:35 | 0:02:37 | |
When you opened your mouths, you threw it all away. | 0:02:37 | 0:02:40 | |
He became the 12th casualty of the boardroom. | 0:02:40 | 0:02:43 | |
Adam, you're fired. | 0:02:43 | 0:02:45 | |
Thank you, Lord Sugar. | 0:02:45 | 0:02:46 | |
Now, four remain to fight for the chance | 0:02:46 | 0:02:49 | |
to become Lord Sugar's business partner. | 0:02:49 | 0:02:52 | |
Oh, here we go. ..Oh? > | 0:02:59 | 0:03:02 | |
-NICK: Hello. Look what you've done for us! Aw! -How you doing? Congratulations. | 0:03:02 | 0:03:06 | |
NICK GIGGLES | 0:03:06 | 0:03:07 | |
I think it's all down to our business plans, us individually. | 0:03:07 | 0:03:11 | |
Now we are purely on our own. | 0:03:11 | 0:03:12 | |
-To finalists. -To finalists! | 0:03:12 | 0:03:15 | |
TELEPHONE RINGS | 0:03:14 | 0:03:15 | |
Hello? | 0:03:22 | 0:03:23 | |
Yes, it's Lord Sugar here. | 0:03:23 | 0:03:25 | |
Oh, hi, Lord Sugar. | 0:03:25 | 0:03:26 | |
In the next 48 hours, I want you to familiarise yourselves | 0:03:26 | 0:03:31 | |
with the business plans and, er, I'll see you | 0:03:31 | 0:03:35 | |
-in two days' time, OK? -OK, brilliant. Thanks very much. | 0:03:35 | 0:03:38 | |
48 hours to get to know our business plans. | 0:03:38 | 0:03:41 | |
I've almost forgotten that it's £250,000 we're going for until now. | 0:03:41 | 0:03:45 | |
-It's a huge, huge life-changing moment. -It is. | 0:03:45 | 0:03:48 | |
Let the best - not man, woman - the best person win. | 0:03:48 | 0:03:51 | |
Just two days for the final four to perfect their business plans. | 0:04:01 | 0:04:06 | |
With the best record, winning eight tasks and losing just three, | 0:04:10 | 0:04:14 | |
technology entrepreneur Nick Holzherr. | 0:04:14 | 0:04:18 | |
I feel great about my business plan | 0:04:18 | 0:04:19 | |
as an idea. I think it's a fantastic concept and it'll definitely be | 0:04:19 | 0:04:22 | |
a business that could make millions and millions. | 0:04:22 | 0:04:25 | |
I think I am a very, very strong contender. | 0:04:25 | 0:04:27 | |
Next, with seven wins, the youngest survivor. | 0:04:30 | 0:04:34 | |
23, and running a fine wine investment company | 0:04:35 | 0:04:38 | |
with a multi-million pound turnover, Tom Gearing. | 0:04:38 | 0:04:42 | |
As a project manager, I've shown clear strategy, I've taken risks, I've taken responsibility, | 0:04:42 | 0:04:47 | |
and this is a business plan that's an extension of what I currently do | 0:04:47 | 0:04:51 | |
every day, so to convince people it's a good idea will be easy for me. | 0:04:51 | 0:04:54 | |
I'm not worried about the other candidates. Now this is really between me and Lord Sugar. | 0:04:54 | 0:04:58 | |
Number three, business development manager Jade. | 0:05:00 | 0:05:03 | |
The last woman standing. | 0:05:03 | 0:05:05 | |
She's fought hard to get this far, losing six tasks, but winning five. | 0:05:05 | 0:05:12 | |
I think it's irrelevant that I'm the last female here. | 0:05:12 | 0:05:14 | |
Business is business at the end of the day. | 0:05:14 | 0:05:16 | |
I'm motivated, I'm really happy with my business plan. | 0:05:16 | 0:05:20 | |
I know it will make money | 0:05:20 | 0:05:21 | |
and I know that's what Lord Sugar's interested in. | 0:05:21 | 0:05:24 | |
Fighting all the way, recruitment manager Ricky Martin, | 0:05:27 | 0:05:32 | |
losing five tasks and four times in the final boardroom facing failure. | 0:05:32 | 0:05:38 | |
I think Lord Sugar is looking for somebody who is not only | 0:05:38 | 0:05:41 | |
at the top of their game, but somebody who's got so much potential. | 0:05:41 | 0:05:44 | |
I think he'll find my business plan has something | 0:05:44 | 0:05:46 | |
that'll pretty much guarantee a return of his investment. | 0:05:46 | 0:05:49 | |
Everything that I've done in my career, | 0:05:51 | 0:05:53 | |
in fact, my life to date, is resting on this final. | 0:05:53 | 0:05:56 | |
Today, last chance for the candidates to prove | 0:06:07 | 0:06:11 | |
they're the best to invest in. | 0:06:11 | 0:06:13 | |
I think it's always daunting getting the scrutiny of the business plan, | 0:06:15 | 0:06:18 | |
but I've got to put forward the best impression of myself as I can. | 0:06:18 | 0:06:21 | |
I think today's going to be extremely testing. | 0:06:23 | 0:06:25 | |
I'll be honest and say I am feeling a bit nervous. Nerves will get the best out of me. | 0:06:25 | 0:06:29 | |
Armed with their business plans, it's off to the City. | 0:06:30 | 0:06:34 | |
Millions of pounds there. | 0:06:34 | 0:06:37 | |
New Broad Street House. | 0:06:54 | 0:06:57 | |
Meeting place for the big guns in British business. | 0:07:02 | 0:07:06 | |
-Good morning. -ALL: Good morning, Lord Sugar. | 0:07:19 | 0:07:22 | |
We're here today in the Institute of Directors. | 0:07:22 | 0:07:25 | |
One of you will end up being a director | 0:07:25 | 0:07:28 | |
in a company that I'm going to invest £250,000 in. | 0:07:28 | 0:07:32 | |
So, today is all about convincing me on your business ideas. | 0:07:32 | 0:07:38 | |
I know the area of business that you all want to go into, | 0:07:38 | 0:07:42 | |
but your competition doesn't. | 0:07:42 | 0:07:44 | |
So now, I want you to pitch to me your ideas in simple terms. | 0:07:44 | 0:07:49 | |
What is your business idea, Nick? | 0:07:51 | 0:07:53 | |
It's an online platform that will revolutionise the online grocery market. | 0:07:53 | 0:07:57 | |
It allows anybody to purchase ingredients for any recipe with a single click. | 0:07:57 | 0:08:01 | |
My online brain at the moment is ticking over already, | 0:08:03 | 0:08:07 | |
so I'll be interested to hear how that's going to work. | 0:08:07 | 0:08:09 | |
-And Tom? -My idea is a hedge fund that allows people | 0:08:11 | 0:08:14 | |
to make use of fine wine as an asset class. | 0:08:14 | 0:08:16 | |
-Hedge fund for wines? -Yeah, pretty much. Collective investment. | 0:08:16 | 0:08:20 | |
-Jade? -Mine is to open the UK's | 0:08:22 | 0:08:24 | |
largest telemarketing call centre, where consumers will be | 0:08:24 | 0:08:28 | |
contacted, sold on as leads at a premium rate to the service provider. | 0:08:28 | 0:08:32 | |
-Does that exist already? -There are some existing, but not of this volume and size. | 0:08:32 | 0:08:36 | |
Right. | 0:08:36 | 0:08:38 | |
And finally, Ricky. | 0:08:38 | 0:08:40 | |
I'm proposing an ethical and niche recruitment organisation | 0:08:40 | 0:08:43 | |
looking at areas of therapeutics, new and existing drugs on the market. | 0:08:43 | 0:08:46 | |
-I'm looking at consumer products, which focus... -I beg your pardon? | 0:08:46 | 0:08:49 | |
-Say that again. -An ethical and professional recruitment organisation. | 0:08:49 | 0:08:53 | |
I'm looking at sustainability, making sure that people's usage of the environment is reduced. | 0:08:53 | 0:08:58 | |
Sorry to disappoint you, | 0:08:58 | 0:08:59 | |
but I haven't understood a word that you've said. | 0:08:59 | 0:09:02 | |
-Recruitment is all about finding personnel to work for companies. -It is. | 0:09:02 | 0:09:06 | |
So just cut the crap and tell me, | 0:09:06 | 0:09:08 | |
is it a recruitment agency for technical people? | 0:09:08 | 0:09:11 | |
-Yes, Lord Sugar. -OK, that's good. That's good. -Sorry. | 0:09:11 | 0:09:15 | |
Now, you're going to meet four colleagues of mine. | 0:09:15 | 0:09:19 | |
They will be studying your business plan | 0:09:19 | 0:09:22 | |
and talking to you in great detail. | 0:09:22 | 0:09:24 | |
And tomorrow, they're going to feed that information back to me | 0:09:24 | 0:09:28 | |
and, based on that information, I will be deciding which one of you | 0:09:28 | 0:09:33 | |
will be my business partner. | 0:09:33 | 0:09:35 | |
Hand over your business plans to Nick and Karren | 0:09:37 | 0:09:40 | |
and I'll see you tomorrow in the boardroom, OK? Off you go. | 0:09:40 | 0:09:44 | |
This is it, last chance. Just got to stay focused, haven't we? | 0:09:51 | 0:09:56 | |
HE SIGHS LOUDLY | 0:09:56 | 0:09:57 | |
It's huge, this. They've never met us before. | 0:09:59 | 0:10:01 | |
-You don't have that long to make that impression. -No! | 0:10:01 | 0:10:04 | |
No pressure to any of us(!) | 0:10:04 | 0:10:06 | |
I want this money. I want this investment. | 0:10:07 | 0:10:10 | |
Personal details checked. | 0:10:17 | 0:10:20 | |
Business plans analysed. | 0:10:20 | 0:10:23 | |
Career backgrounds scrutinised. | 0:10:23 | 0:10:26 | |
Time to face four of Lord Sugar's toughest task masters. | 0:10:26 | 0:10:30 | |
-DOOR OPENS > Hi. -How are you, Tom? | 0:10:30 | 0:10:33 | |
-Take a seat. -Thank you. | 0:10:33 | 0:10:34 | |
Award-winning Mike Soutar, pioneer of Britain's free magazine industry. | 0:10:34 | 0:10:39 | |
His job today - seek out the skills to run a cutting-edge company. | 0:10:40 | 0:10:45 | |
-So, these are pretty serious interviews, aren't they? -Very. | 0:10:45 | 0:10:49 | |
-There's a huge amount at stake, isn't there? -Yeah, that's true. | 0:10:49 | 0:10:52 | |
-Would you say that you were an experienced interviewee? -No. | 0:10:52 | 0:10:56 | |
I've never had an interview before, er, so this is | 0:10:56 | 0:10:59 | |
-my first day of... -You've never had a job interview? -No, I haven't. | 0:10:59 | 0:11:02 | |
Sharing Lord Sugar's passion for backing new business, | 0:11:04 | 0:11:08 | |
no-nonsense Margaret Mountford. | 0:11:08 | 0:11:11 | |
-Margaret, nice to meet you. -Nice to meet you. Take a seat. | 0:11:11 | 0:11:15 | |
She's here to spot a candidate's strengths and weed out weaknesses. | 0:11:15 | 0:11:20 | |
Let's have a look at your CV, | 0:11:20 | 0:11:22 | |
because intelligence is one of the characteristics | 0:11:22 | 0:11:24 | |
on which you pride yourself, I think. | 0:11:24 | 0:11:26 | |
"My intelligence makes my thinking better, my decisions wiser. | 0:11:26 | 0:11:30 | |
"My intelligence makes people more receptive | 0:11:30 | 0:11:33 | |
"to the communication of my ideas." | 0:11:33 | 0:11:34 | |
-I think that is true. -Modesty becomes SOME people. | 0:11:34 | 0:11:37 | |
Former Young Entrepreneur Of The Year, Matthew Riley. | 0:11:43 | 0:11:47 | |
-Nice to meet you. -Take a seat. -Thank you. | 0:11:47 | 0:11:49 | |
Having built a telecoms company worth 350 million, | 0:11:49 | 0:11:55 | |
he knows what it takes to get to the top. | 0:11:55 | 0:11:59 | |
-So, if you imagine there's £250,000 sat behind me. -OK. | 0:11:59 | 0:12:02 | |
That's Lord Sugar's money and his reputation. My job is to make sure | 0:12:02 | 0:12:05 | |
he goes into business with someone who'll be successful, | 0:12:05 | 0:12:07 | |
-hence why I thought I'd say I opened your application. -Yes. | 0:12:07 | 0:12:10 | |
There were just so many things in there that basically made me want to be sick. | 0:12:10 | 0:12:14 | |
Finally, Lord Sugar's former global trouble-shooter, Claude Littner. | 0:12:19 | 0:12:24 | |
-Take a seat. -King of the killer question | 0:12:24 | 0:12:27 | |
and here to find pitfalls in potential partners' plans. | 0:12:27 | 0:12:32 | |
I have got to say that, um, I'm pretty underwhelmed | 0:12:32 | 0:12:35 | |
by both your CV and your business plan. | 0:12:35 | 0:12:39 | |
Frankly, er, it's a pretty grubby little business you're proposing. | 0:12:39 | 0:12:44 | |
-A grubby business? -Well, it is, really, isn't it? | 0:12:44 | 0:12:47 | |
-Explain the business to me, then. -The call centre will phone people with a very easy script. | 0:12:47 | 0:12:51 | |
So it's a high-volume business where you can make a lot of money | 0:12:51 | 0:12:54 | |
if you're putting premiums on just passing over a lead. | 0:12:54 | 0:12:57 | |
The large sectors that want these qualified leads | 0:12:57 | 0:13:00 | |
are in solar panels, mobile phones and also in debt. | 0:13:00 | 0:13:04 | |
But you're trying to sort of capture people who, | 0:13:04 | 0:13:07 | |
um, really don't want to hear from you. | 0:13:07 | 0:13:09 | |
In the evening, when I'm at home, I don't want cold calls | 0:13:09 | 0:13:12 | |
telling me about the fact I can save on my energy bill. | 0:13:12 | 0:13:14 | |
You've got people who perhaps have fallen into debt | 0:13:14 | 0:13:17 | |
and you're going to get leads, try and sell those leads on, um, it's... | 0:13:17 | 0:13:21 | |
It's a bit...unsavoury. | 0:13:21 | 0:13:24 | |
-How do you reckon Jade's will be on a scale of one to ten? -Two. -Three. | 0:13:24 | 0:13:28 | |
Two, three! RICKY LAUGHS | 0:13:28 | 0:13:30 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:13:30 | 0:13:32 | |
Looking at some of the numbers here, | 0:13:35 | 0:13:38 | |
you haven't provided in your business plan a cash flow. | 0:13:38 | 0:13:42 | |
That's pretty important. There's not a balance sheet here either. | 0:13:42 | 0:13:45 | |
-That's quite useful. -Unfortunately, what's included is included. | 0:13:47 | 0:13:50 | |
What it shows is that you haven't really got a proper business plan. It's a fact. It's a fact. | 0:13:52 | 0:13:57 | |
-The other thing that I'm perplexed about... -Yeah? -..is that, um... | 0:13:57 | 0:14:00 | |
month one, you're showing a particular turnover. | 0:14:00 | 0:14:03 | |
-Yeah. -That's lovely. The trouble is that you have got no costs. | 0:14:03 | 0:14:07 | |
-What I've done... -You've got no costs. | 0:14:07 | 0:14:09 | |
How do you produce...? I'd like to know, cos this is a real money-winner! Zero overheads! | 0:14:09 | 0:14:14 | |
-You haven't got a telephone! -Yeah. | 0:14:14 | 0:14:16 | |
The overheads have been paid for, there obviously are overheads there. | 0:14:16 | 0:14:19 | |
But that's... That is part of the £250,000 investment. | 0:14:19 | 0:14:23 | |
Oh, look, honestly, that's absurd! I've never seen anything like that. | 0:14:23 | 0:14:26 | |
-It's not the way to do it. -OK. -It isn't. | 0:14:26 | 0:14:30 | |
-250,000 will pay for all data, all employment, all salaries... -How much have you got left? | 0:14:30 | 0:14:35 | |
-Nothing. It's £259,000. -No, no, no! | 0:14:35 | 0:14:37 | |
In six months, you've blown it?! You've blown it in six months? | 0:14:37 | 0:14:40 | |
-RICKY: She's out. -How did it go? | 0:14:42 | 0:14:45 | |
I got absolutely slaughtered! | 0:14:45 | 0:14:47 | |
I'd quite like a drink. | 0:14:48 | 0:14:50 | |
Well, here you are now in the final four, um... | 0:14:51 | 0:14:56 | |
classifying yourself as Thor in the Nordic Pantheon. | 0:14:56 | 0:15:01 | |
-Is that right? -I did, yes. -Um... | 0:15:01 | 0:15:04 | |
"Lord Sugar is already a business god, but call me Thor - | 0:15:04 | 0:15:08 | |
"I am the next generation who, with the backing of the Godfather of business, | 0:15:08 | 0:15:12 | |
-"I will take over his empire." -It's an extremely bold statement | 0:15:12 | 0:15:15 | |
and the point I was trying to put across is, first of all, | 0:15:15 | 0:15:18 | |
to differentiate myself to other people applying in this process. | 0:15:18 | 0:15:21 | |
They're not all gods, you mean? | 0:15:21 | 0:15:23 | |
No, they're not, but what I was trying to say is that | 0:15:23 | 0:15:25 | |
I think Thor's somebody who is, er, | 0:15:25 | 0:15:27 | |
a descendant of God, descended from the heavens. | 0:15:27 | 0:15:30 | |
My point I was trying to put across is I'm somebody who can bring a new dimension to the marketplace. | 0:15:30 | 0:15:34 | |
You're a reincarnation of Lord Sugar, are you? | 0:15:34 | 0:15:37 | |
Not a direct reincarnation, but the elements of his career I think I've replicated. | 0:15:37 | 0:15:40 | |
When I read this business plan - and I read it a few times... | 0:15:43 | 0:15:46 | |
-Yeah. -..it looked to me like an academic exercise. | 0:15:46 | 0:15:49 | |
A very good piece of work you do for an MBA or something like that. | 0:15:49 | 0:15:53 | |
-OK. -It didn't look like it was a really good | 0:15:53 | 0:15:55 | |
piece of work for really starting a business. | 0:15:55 | 0:15:58 | |
-So tell me in plain English... -Sure. -..what the point of the business is. | 0:15:58 | 0:16:03 | |
Any recipe on the internet or on television, or in a recipe book, | 0:16:05 | 0:16:08 | |
my system would automatically allow you to purchase | 0:16:08 | 0:16:11 | |
all the ingredients for that recipe with a single click. | 0:16:11 | 0:16:13 | |
So, when you click, it would say, "Would you like to buy it from supermarket A, B or C?" | 0:16:13 | 0:16:17 | |
Give you all the prices for the cumulative sum of all the different ingredients in there. | 0:16:17 | 0:16:22 | |
It knows what combinations you buy from different websites, | 0:16:22 | 0:16:24 | |
so you add five different recipes from five different websites to the same shopping basket. | 0:16:24 | 0:16:29 | |
-It shows you best price combination of ingredients. -Do I care? | 0:16:29 | 0:16:32 | |
I don't think anyone's going to be bothered. | 0:16:32 | 0:16:35 | |
Life is too short. Life is too short. | 0:16:35 | 0:16:37 | |
-I do think Nick might have a bit of an uphill struggle with his business plan. -Quite big. | 0:16:39 | 0:16:43 | |
-Quite ambitious, yeah. -Complicated. -A big challenge. | 0:16:43 | 0:16:46 | |
Nick needs to be careful he's not patronising, careful he's... | 0:16:46 | 0:16:49 | |
-Listening. -..exploring what they say to him. | 0:16:49 | 0:16:51 | |
It's not an essential. It's an irrelevance. It's irrelevant! | 0:16:52 | 0:16:55 | |
-I think you're not the target market. -No, I'm not. | 0:16:55 | 0:16:57 | |
-The target market would say it is a useful tool. -I wonder about that. | 0:16:57 | 0:17:00 | |
I struggle. I struggle to know whether that's the case. | 0:17:00 | 0:17:03 | |
This could become one of the big global players, I do believe that. | 0:17:03 | 0:17:06 | |
-It's not worth the effort. -That's not a fair comment, I don't think. | 0:17:06 | 0:17:09 | |
Every household in the UK would want to use this system. | 0:17:09 | 0:17:12 | |
-Not just the UK, but internationally. -Not every household. | 0:17:12 | 0:17:14 | |
It's a Google or a Facebook, it's got potential to be. | 0:17:14 | 0:17:17 | |
Dream on. | 0:17:17 | 0:17:19 | |
RICKY LAUGHS He looks like he's been dragged through a hedge. | 0:17:21 | 0:17:24 | |
He pulled you through a hedge backwards? | 0:17:24 | 0:17:26 | |
It's like being under fire. | 0:17:26 | 0:17:28 | |
It's like being in a war zone. | 0:17:28 | 0:17:30 | |
I've a glowing employment reference here. | 0:17:31 | 0:17:35 | |
-I'm going to read it to you. -OK. -It says, "What is very evident | 0:17:35 | 0:17:38 | |
"is Tom's natural ability to focus on the challenge | 0:17:38 | 0:17:41 | |
"and develop an approach which delivers results." | 0:17:41 | 0:17:44 | |
It goes on. "I do firmly believe you have | 0:17:44 | 0:17:48 | |
"an excellent apprentice who truly has the skill sets to deliver." | 0:17:48 | 0:17:52 | |
-That's pretty good stuff, isn't it? -Yeah, I'm happy about that. | 0:17:52 | 0:17:56 | |
-Who do you think said that? -Um...I'm not sure. | 0:17:56 | 0:18:00 | |
I'm not sure at all. | 0:18:00 | 0:18:02 | |
-Actually, it was your father. -Oh, OK, yeah. | 0:18:02 | 0:18:05 | |
Your father is an investment banker and the wine company that you run | 0:18:05 | 0:18:08 | |
is also owned by your father as well as yourself. | 0:18:08 | 0:18:11 | |
So, how much of your business plan did your father write? | 0:18:11 | 0:18:15 | |
Er, he didn't write any of it. | 0:18:15 | 0:18:16 | |
-None of it at all? -No. -OK. | 0:18:16 | 0:18:18 | |
So it would be unfair to characterise you as a daddy's boy? | 0:18:18 | 0:18:22 | |
I feel so, yeah. | 0:18:22 | 0:18:24 | |
In this new business, you're selling wine as an investment for people | 0:18:24 | 0:18:29 | |
-who won't actually ever drink it. -Yeah, yeah. | 0:18:29 | 0:18:32 | |
It's a very sophisticated business plan. | 0:18:32 | 0:18:34 | |
-I've never written anything as sophisticated as this. -Really? It's actually all my work. | 0:18:34 | 0:18:38 | |
The investment strategy is what I currently use within my business. | 0:18:38 | 0:18:41 | |
We have 300 product clients in 21 different countries | 0:18:41 | 0:18:44 | |
and my father only joined the company after | 0:18:44 | 0:18:46 | |
we'd already posted revenues of 1.25 million. | 0:18:46 | 0:18:49 | |
Tonight, I'm want to make shepherd's pie, so I go onto your website, | 0:18:50 | 0:18:53 | |
I see the recipe, I don't care where I get the ingredients from. I just want to buy them. | 0:18:53 | 0:18:57 | |
In reality, Joe Bloggs likes to go to maybe a celebrity chef website, | 0:18:57 | 0:19:01 | |
-get one recipe from there... -Yeah. -..get another | 0:19:01 | 0:19:04 | |
-from another website, another one from website C. -Who does that? | 0:19:04 | 0:19:07 | |
-You do purchase four or five recipes at once. -Who does? -If you look at young families, | 0:19:07 | 0:19:10 | |
-there are many... -Who has time to plan out what they're going to eat? | 0:19:10 | 0:19:13 | |
Monday's lasagne, Tues... Who does that? | 0:19:13 | 0:19:17 | |
-Lots of families do that. -Are there? -Yes. -I just don't see it. | 0:19:17 | 0:19:20 | |
They're busy, they've got two kids or something. | 0:19:20 | 0:19:22 | |
They want to come in, make a quick meal, get the kids bathed and to bed. | 0:19:22 | 0:19:26 | |
I agree it's a complex business model, but 52% of people | 0:19:26 | 0:19:29 | |
use online recipes, so there is a big market for it. | 0:19:29 | 0:19:32 | |
So your previous business partner, | 0:19:32 | 0:19:34 | |
we spoke to him and he said your big sort of downfall is focus. | 0:19:34 | 0:19:38 | |
-Did he say that? -Yeah. | 0:19:38 | 0:19:40 | |
I think the key is not focus, it's about success in a business. | 0:19:40 | 0:19:43 | |
-If it... -I disagree with you. It's always about focus. It's always about the detail. | 0:19:43 | 0:19:47 | |
I'm 100% aware that focus is something that | 0:19:47 | 0:19:50 | |
I need to fo... you know, focus on! | 0:19:50 | 0:19:53 | |
Your real name is Richard Martin. | 0:19:54 | 0:19:56 | |
-It is Richard, yes. -But you call yourself Ricky Martin. -I do, yes. | 0:19:56 | 0:20:00 | |
The same as the famous Latino pop star. | 0:20:00 | 0:20:02 | |
Why is that? Do you really like his music? | 0:20:02 | 0:20:05 | |
To be brutally honest, using the name Ricky Martin worked | 0:20:05 | 0:20:08 | |
exceptionally well in sales, people remember the name. | 0:20:08 | 0:20:11 | |
I'm trying to use any ability I can to get people to remember me. | 0:20:11 | 0:20:14 | |
You've also got other names as well. You've got Ricky Hype. | 0:20:14 | 0:20:17 | |
-I have. -The Superstar Ricky Hype. The Fitness Ricky Hype. | 0:20:17 | 0:20:22 | |
-Why? -Outside of business, I've got a hobby, | 0:20:22 | 0:20:24 | |
which is professional wrestling. | 0:20:24 | 0:20:26 | |
That's the character I portray in wrestling. | 0:20:26 | 0:20:28 | |
It all sounds a bit more show business than real business. | 0:20:28 | 0:20:32 | |
-Yeah. -Do you think people take you less seriously in business | 0:20:32 | 0:20:35 | |
because they can't stop imagining you in a pair of Lycra pants? | 0:20:35 | 0:20:39 | |
You say one of the most interesting thing about you is your upbringing. | 0:20:41 | 0:20:45 | |
It wasn't conventional. | 0:20:45 | 0:20:47 | |
Being half-Swiss, I was brought up very focused on outdoor activities. | 0:20:47 | 0:20:53 | |
Building camps in the forest, woodworking, sewing. | 0:20:53 | 0:20:58 | |
So, I didn't have a TV. | 0:20:58 | 0:21:00 | |
So, as soon as you got a computer at 16, you became obsessed with it? | 0:21:00 | 0:21:04 | |
Yeah, I think not having had it made me want it more. | 0:21:04 | 0:21:09 | |
And when I did get one, I did spend a lot of time with it. | 0:21:09 | 0:21:12 | |
So, one could say obsessed - I did turn into a bit of a geek. | 0:21:12 | 0:21:16 | |
Probably still am a bit of a geek now. | 0:21:16 | 0:21:18 | |
In your application form, | 0:21:20 | 0:21:22 | |
you say that you're an incredible businesswoman. | 0:21:22 | 0:21:25 | |
Did you do any business studies at all at university or college? | 0:21:25 | 0:21:30 | |
When I was at university, I did graphic design, | 0:21:30 | 0:21:32 | |
but we did business practice within that. | 0:21:32 | 0:21:34 | |
But it wasn't business plan writing, it was more just dealing with | 0:21:34 | 0:21:38 | |
the business side when designing for people. | 0:21:38 | 0:21:40 | |
-Are you sure about that? -Well, we did some business modules. | 0:21:40 | 0:21:44 | |
-Nothing else to tell me? -No. | 0:21:44 | 0:21:47 | |
You didn't do a business A-level and get an N? For business? | 0:21:47 | 0:21:51 | |
-Oh, my business...! -Oh! THAT little bit of information! -You know what? | 0:21:53 | 0:21:57 | |
-For some reason, that's been taken out of my mind for now. -Seriously?! | 0:21:57 | 0:22:01 | |
I was known as a BNOC - big name on campus - at university. | 0:22:03 | 0:22:09 | |
What's that about? | 0:22:09 | 0:22:10 | |
I was just trying to say that whatever area that I'm in, | 0:22:10 | 0:22:13 | |
I obviously try and make myself well known. | 0:22:13 | 0:22:15 | |
-I wondered if you were sure that N stood for name? -HE LAUGHS | 0:22:15 | 0:22:19 | |
Yeah. | 0:22:19 | 0:22:21 | |
I'd like to examine in great detail some of the points | 0:22:21 | 0:22:24 | |
-you make in your business plan. You want to launch a fund... -Yeah. | 0:22:24 | 0:22:28 | |
..and raise £25 million to invest in the wine industry. | 0:22:28 | 0:22:33 | |
£25 million is a hell of a sum to raise with a company that is | 0:22:33 | 0:22:36 | |
untested with a young guy who hasn't really got a long track record. | 0:22:36 | 0:22:40 | |
-It's a big leap, I know. -That's my problem. | 0:22:40 | 0:22:43 | |
It's my chance to take what I have now and grow it. I can do it. | 0:22:43 | 0:22:46 | |
I've proved it over the last two years. | 0:22:46 | 0:22:48 | |
Why deal with you as opposed to dealing with someone more | 0:22:48 | 0:22:51 | |
established, who perhaps I've dealt with for 20 years? | 0:22:51 | 0:22:54 | |
The reason I want to do this is because I've had demand for it, | 0:22:54 | 0:22:58 | |
I've had people read our articles and go, do you know what? | 0:22:58 | 0:23:01 | |
-I want to come to you guys. -It would appear that at the tender age of... | 0:23:01 | 0:23:04 | |
-How old are you? -23. | 0:23:04 | 0:23:06 | |
..23. You claim on your personal statement, | 0:23:06 | 0:23:09 | |
I am entirely well-rounded. | 0:23:09 | 0:23:12 | |
-I've learned a lot of business skills... -You may well have done, | 0:23:12 | 0:23:16 | |
but that doesn't mean to say you are entirely well-rounded. | 0:23:16 | 0:23:19 | |
I'm self-assured, confident in my abilities, | 0:23:19 | 0:23:21 | |
and hopefully I can take that further in life. | 0:23:21 | 0:23:24 | |
The problem is, you haven't got enough experience and you're 23. | 0:23:24 | 0:23:27 | |
-Can you raise the money? I say you can't. -Yeah... | 0:23:27 | 0:23:30 | |
So, the business concept falls apart before you even start, because I don't think you can raise the money. | 0:23:30 | 0:23:33 | |
-I think I can sell it, I honestly do. -I honestly think you can't. | 0:23:33 | 0:23:37 | |
-OK. -You can't, because £25 million, that's a fortune. | 0:23:37 | 0:23:40 | |
He's out. | 0:23:44 | 0:23:45 | |
-God, you were in there for ages, mate. -Was I? -Yeah. How did it go? | 0:23:45 | 0:23:50 | |
-Erm... Stressful. -Really? -Mmm. Tough, it was tough. | 0:23:51 | 0:23:56 | |
It's tough. | 0:23:56 | 0:23:57 | |
-Out of ten? -Two. -Really? | 0:23:57 | 0:24:00 | |
-Mmm. -You look destroyed! | 0:24:00 | 0:24:03 | |
I've no doubt you can do the recruitment you do every day. | 0:24:05 | 0:24:07 | |
I don't get whether you've got the business skills to start a business. | 0:24:07 | 0:24:11 | |
How will you react when the clients haven't come, | 0:24:11 | 0:24:14 | |
you've employed three people and they're useless and it's all going | 0:24:14 | 0:24:17 | |
-wrong and you've got Lord Sugar literally all over you like a Rottweiler? -Yeah. | 0:24:17 | 0:24:21 | |
For me, I'm not somebody who buckles under pressure. | 0:24:21 | 0:24:24 | |
The entire process so far has shown that, and I do appreciate that. | 0:24:24 | 0:24:27 | |
You can't at the end of week say, sorry, Lord Sugar, I didn't hit my targets. | 0:24:27 | 0:24:31 | |
I've got the backing behind me both academically... My degree's in medical biochemistry, | 0:24:31 | 0:24:35 | |
my five years in recruitment is in science. | 0:24:35 | 0:24:38 | |
It's a great story so I can launch that company and say, this is my background. | 0:24:38 | 0:24:41 | |
-This what I've done. You say there's a brick wall there. -Yep. -As cliched as it sounds, | 0:24:41 | 0:24:45 | |
I feel I'll be the sledgehammer to go through it. I'm going to get to that money, | 0:24:45 | 0:24:49 | |
and make a success of this and I won't stop until I do that. | 0:24:49 | 0:24:52 | |
Explain to me your proposed business. | 0:24:52 | 0:24:55 | |
My proposed business will grow to be the UK's largest telemarketing | 0:24:55 | 0:25:01 | |
call centre and it will have a few sectors that it focuses on. | 0:25:01 | 0:25:04 | |
One of them will be debt help, one will be mobile phones | 0:25:04 | 0:25:07 | |
and one will be energy suppliers. | 0:25:07 | 0:25:09 | |
In your business plan, you list four different website addresses | 0:25:11 | 0:25:15 | |
-that you will use to gather data from. -Yeah. | 0:25:15 | 0:25:19 | |
-These are valuable assets, then. -Yeah. | 0:25:19 | 0:25:21 | |
These are important things. But are these websites that you...? | 0:25:21 | 0:25:24 | |
-I have purchased them. -You've purchased them all. | 0:25:24 | 0:25:26 | |
-Yes, the websites are purchased. -So, chooseenergysupplier.co.uk. | 0:25:26 | 0:25:31 | |
Just to take that one, for example. You don't own that website. | 0:25:31 | 0:25:35 | |
-I've checked. -I do own four in that...out of those. | 0:25:35 | 0:25:39 | |
-Chooseenergysupplier.co.uk, I own. -You own it? -I bought it. | 0:25:39 | 0:25:45 | |
-I might have to buy it off you. -OK. | 0:25:47 | 0:25:49 | |
The good news is, I'm an entrepreneur. Make me an offer. | 0:25:49 | 0:25:54 | |
Ooh! | 0:25:58 | 0:26:01 | |
This quarter of a million pounds, I can see it on that table. | 0:26:03 | 0:26:06 | |
I don't want one of you three to get it. I want that to be mine. | 0:26:06 | 0:26:09 | |
Am I going to get a quarter of a million pounds injected into my business? | 0:26:09 | 0:26:12 | |
Yes. So, I'm going to go in there fighting. | 0:26:12 | 0:26:15 | |
I just hope he gets as good a grilling as I did. | 0:26:20 | 0:26:24 | |
I'll be happy then. | 0:26:24 | 0:26:26 | |
Good morning. | 0:26:29 | 0:26:30 | |
Well, Ricky, I've been looking forward to this encounter, | 0:26:34 | 0:26:37 | |
because you present something of an enigma to me. | 0:26:37 | 0:26:40 | |
-OK. -Let's start with your personal statement. -OK. | 0:26:40 | 0:26:44 | |
Which, frankly, is probably the most crass, obnoxious, | 0:26:44 | 0:26:49 | |
infantile personal statement that I've had the... | 0:26:49 | 0:26:53 | |
Not really a pleasure - I've had the opportunity of reading. | 0:26:53 | 0:26:56 | |
Quite clearly, | 0:26:56 | 0:26:58 | |
some of the statements you've made are completely ludicrous. | 0:26:58 | 0:27:02 | |
-Perhaps you would like to comment on them. -No problem at all. | 0:27:02 | 0:27:06 | |
You're the best business partner on the planet... | 0:27:06 | 0:27:08 | |
You stick by that, do you? | 0:27:11 | 0:27:12 | |
I think I'm an exceptionally good business partner. | 0:27:12 | 0:27:14 | |
-I think I'm a good potential for the future. -Hang on a second. | 0:27:14 | 0:27:17 | |
The best business partner on the PLANET, OK? | 0:27:17 | 0:27:21 | |
How do you think Ricky's getting on? | 0:27:22 | 0:27:24 | |
He'll be getting an absolute battering. | 0:27:24 | 0:27:28 | |
You talk about your possible future business partner | 0:27:28 | 0:27:33 | |
and you say that you will teach an old dog new tricks. | 0:27:33 | 0:27:38 | |
Now, I don't really think that's the way you should be speaking about | 0:27:38 | 0:27:43 | |
a business partner and certainly not somebody like Lord Sugar. | 0:27:43 | 0:27:46 | |
And I completely agree. It's an immature statement to make | 0:27:46 | 0:27:50 | |
and one which I regret putting in there. | 0:27:50 | 0:27:52 | |
The problem is that you're an arrogant fool. | 0:27:52 | 0:27:57 | |
However, I read your business plan and I was quite impressed. | 0:27:57 | 0:28:02 | |
-Thank you. -It was interesting, I think it was well written | 0:28:02 | 0:28:06 | |
and you've done very well in your career. | 0:28:06 | 0:28:08 | |
So, I find it a bit puzzling as to why you chose to just write | 0:28:08 | 0:28:13 | |
such rubbish, such nonsense in your personal statement. | 0:28:13 | 0:28:16 | |
When I turned up to this process, I had a lot of bravado about me. | 0:28:16 | 0:28:20 | |
I was happy to say these bold statements to get noticed and get myself heard, | 0:28:20 | 0:28:24 | |
and I'll be honest to say that throughout this process, | 0:28:24 | 0:28:27 | |
I've realised a lot about myself and I'm a very different person now. | 0:28:27 | 0:28:31 | |
Let's move on from this. The economy is not in great shape at the moment. | 0:28:31 | 0:28:35 | |
-It's not. -And therefore, to me, it would seem that this is not | 0:28:35 | 0:28:38 | |
-a great time to start this kind of business. -I disagree with you entirely. | 0:28:38 | 0:28:43 | |
Looking at all the research I put within the business plan, | 0:28:43 | 0:28:46 | |
the economy is showing that recruitment | 0:28:46 | 0:28:48 | |
is picking up substantially. On the permanent side, | 0:28:48 | 0:28:51 | |
the confidence in recruitment is growing. | 0:28:51 | 0:28:53 | |
In the private sector, over the next year, 94% of businesses will either maintain head count or increase. | 0:28:53 | 0:28:58 | |
The areas which I'm looking at to start with are areas where the economy isn't affected as much. | 0:28:58 | 0:29:03 | |
-I do believe there's a big market still there. -OK, that sounds plausible to me. | 0:29:03 | 0:29:08 | |
If Lord Sugar invested £250,000 today, | 0:29:10 | 0:29:13 | |
what kind of return would he get at the end of year five? | 0:29:13 | 0:29:16 | |
Year five, we're looking at £145 million return. | 0:29:16 | 0:29:20 | |
So, you're saying that he would make £145 million? | 0:29:20 | 0:29:25 | |
It's very difficult to put an actual figure on how | 0:29:25 | 0:29:28 | |
we will be performing in three to five years. | 0:29:28 | 0:29:30 | |
But my job is to try and figure out how realistic those projections are. | 0:29:30 | 0:29:34 | |
So, you're saying £145 million. That's a decent return. | 0:29:34 | 0:29:38 | |
-Have you any qualifications in...? -No, I don't have any qualifications. | 0:29:40 | 0:29:44 | |
-What experience have you got in hedge funds? -None in hedge funds. | 0:29:44 | 0:29:47 | |
-But you're saying to me you're going to go and be a hedge fund. -Yes. | 0:29:47 | 0:29:50 | |
-So, would you class yourself as a gambling man? -I do take a risk from time to time. | 0:29:50 | 0:29:55 | |
The plan sounds like a pretty big risk to me. | 0:29:55 | 0:29:57 | |
Rather than thinking we'll start small and grow gradually, | 0:29:57 | 0:30:01 | |
you're going, bang, £25 million. | 0:30:01 | 0:30:03 | |
-Yeah. -The risk profile on this business is huge. | 0:30:03 | 0:30:06 | |
In term of risk, this is an investment hedge fund, so there's | 0:30:06 | 0:30:09 | |
going to be some degree of risk, but what better reputation to have | 0:30:09 | 0:30:12 | |
Lord Sugar as one of the 50% stakeholders in the hedge fund manager? | 0:30:12 | 0:30:15 | |
I don't think anyone would question whether I could do it, if Lord Sugar backs me. | 0:30:15 | 0:30:21 | |
You haven't stuck at any job for very long, have you? | 0:30:21 | 0:30:24 | |
In not a short space of time, you've had six jobs? | 0:30:24 | 0:30:27 | |
Well, at the end of the day, it is, for me, | 0:30:27 | 0:30:30 | |
about getting experience and earning more money. | 0:30:30 | 0:30:33 | |
My business plan is about what I do and the contacts that I have. | 0:30:33 | 0:30:37 | |
You're right to plan based on something you know about. | 0:30:37 | 0:30:39 | |
So, I think being successful in business is about people with | 0:30:39 | 0:30:43 | |
common sense, people getting on with people and relationship building, | 0:30:43 | 0:30:47 | |
and all of that has taken me to the end of the process. | 0:30:47 | 0:30:50 | |
It is a very simple business model. | 0:30:51 | 0:30:53 | |
It's finding new people for new jobs. | 0:30:53 | 0:30:55 | |
If I start in one area and excel, start niche, | 0:30:55 | 0:30:58 | |
and this business can think big and we start going throughout the UK, throughout Europe. | 0:30:58 | 0:31:02 | |
That's where I think Lord Sugar can show me how to do that. | 0:31:02 | 0:31:05 | |
I've got to say that you actually come across as somebody who's | 0:31:05 | 0:31:08 | |
thought very hard about the business that you want to pursue. | 0:31:08 | 0:31:12 | |
So, I've created a prototype and I've integrated it into publishers, into supermarkets. | 0:31:13 | 0:31:17 | |
So, I've tested the model there. I now want to scale it and I need money to make it work for millions. | 0:31:17 | 0:31:23 | |
If I get this quarter of a million pounds investment, I can do it. | 0:31:24 | 0:31:27 | |
I have managed to build up the strategic links, | 0:31:27 | 0:31:29 | |
I have the expertise and I won't let anyone down. | 0:31:29 | 0:31:32 | |
-I haven't let anyone down in my life and I won't start doing it now. -Thank you. -OK, thanks. Cheers. | 0:31:32 | 0:31:37 | |
I felt quite emotional at the end of that one. | 0:31:41 | 0:31:43 | |
-Because it was like putting everything out there. -Yeah. | 0:31:43 | 0:31:47 | |
I was almost across the table, like, please believe in me, sort of thing. | 0:31:47 | 0:31:52 | |
-That's all our interviews done, guys. -All done. -That's it. | 0:31:54 | 0:31:58 | |
There's no affecting it now. | 0:31:58 | 0:32:00 | |
I think I've got a good chance, but I don't think it's definite at all. | 0:32:00 | 0:32:05 | |
I don't care if some people bring out a few bad points. | 0:32:05 | 0:32:07 | |
Nobody's perfect. Much as I'd have said 11 weeks ago, | 0:32:07 | 0:32:10 | |
I'm the perfect person, whatever, nobody's perfect. | 0:32:10 | 0:32:14 | |
Getting this investment would be life changing. | 0:32:58 | 0:33:01 | |
I do have a 100% unique business plan. | 0:33:01 | 0:33:03 | |
It is something new, something different. | 0:33:03 | 0:33:06 | |
But if it works, it could be huge. | 0:33:06 | 0:33:08 | |
I think I'm in pole position at the moment. | 0:33:08 | 0:33:11 | |
Everyone who's left knows they have to be on the top of their game. | 0:33:11 | 0:33:14 | |
But am I being too ambitious and a bit too risky? | 0:33:14 | 0:33:17 | |
If Lord Sugar can look past that then I've got a very good chance of being his business partner. | 0:33:17 | 0:33:21 | |
I'm adamant that I am a strong enough candidate to be here in | 0:33:23 | 0:33:27 | |
the final and I know that the business I'm putting forward will make money. | 0:33:27 | 0:33:31 | |
I've always felt destined to set up my own business, | 0:33:34 | 0:33:37 | |
so there's no way that I'm going to be a shrinking violet. | 0:33:37 | 0:33:41 | |
I'm going to fight. | 0:33:41 | 0:33:43 | |
Well, good afternoon and welcome back to the boardroom again. | 0:33:47 | 0:33:51 | |
You're here to find me the right partner, | 0:34:08 | 0:34:11 | |
and the thing is, I'm a pensioner now and I don't want too much | 0:34:11 | 0:34:16 | |
hard work, I don't want to be in there, in the trenches. | 0:34:16 | 0:34:20 | |
So, with that in mind, Margaret, where shall we start? | 0:34:20 | 0:34:23 | |
OK. Start with Jade. | 0:34:23 | 0:34:25 | |
Basically, what she wants to do is set up a call centre and buy leads. | 0:34:25 | 0:34:30 | |
Her callers will follow up those leads and then | 0:34:30 | 0:34:33 | |
when somebody says, I'm interested, she will | 0:34:33 | 0:34:36 | |
pass them as a sort of qualified lead and get a payment for that. | 0:34:36 | 0:34:39 | |
My concern on that is, is this something anyone wants any more? | 0:34:39 | 0:34:43 | |
Do you want disturbing at home with countless phone calls? | 0:34:43 | 0:34:46 | |
-I certainly don't want to be disturbed at home. -And I don't. | 0:34:46 | 0:34:49 | |
I thought one of the biggest flaws within the whole thing was when you look at her business plan, | 0:34:49 | 0:34:54 | |
you will see that she has bought four different web addresses. | 0:34:54 | 0:34:58 | |
What I found was, that one of the web addresses was still available for anyone to go and buy. | 0:34:58 | 0:35:03 | |
So I did. | 0:35:03 | 0:35:04 | |
HE LAUGHS You bought it, did you? | 0:35:04 | 0:35:07 | |
I thought perhaps she had a lesson to learn. | 0:35:07 | 0:35:11 | |
-Mmm. -I got the idea she's a good salesperson, | 0:35:11 | 0:35:14 | |
but her business plan demonstrates that in month one, with no staff, | 0:35:14 | 0:35:18 | |
no office, no nothing, she's making a turnover of £80,000. | 0:35:18 | 0:35:22 | |
So, I said to her, how do you do it? How? We'd all like to do that. | 0:35:22 | 0:35:26 | |
She had no answer for it. | 0:35:26 | 0:35:27 | |
She is sticking to a business she knows a lot about | 0:35:27 | 0:35:30 | |
and one she's been successful in. | 0:35:30 | 0:35:32 | |
I asked her about why she had so many jobs in a relatively | 0:35:32 | 0:35:35 | |
short space of time and she showed, quite rightly, that each time | 0:35:35 | 0:35:38 | |
she was promoted and then she'd moved on to higher things. | 0:35:38 | 0:35:41 | |
She's relying on her ability to be persuasive face to face, | 0:35:41 | 0:35:45 | |
but when she's running a business, she'll not be doing any selling face to face. | 0:35:45 | 0:35:50 | |
-Claude, talk to me about Ricky? -I'd love to talk to you about Ricky, | 0:35:50 | 0:35:53 | |
because his personal statement and application form is just | 0:35:53 | 0:35:56 | |
so ludicrous and not very respectful to yourself. | 0:35:56 | 0:35:59 | |
For example, apart from taking over your empire very shortly, he's also | 0:35:59 | 0:36:03 | |
going to teach an old dog - which I presume he means you - new tricks. | 0:36:03 | 0:36:07 | |
-Really? Woof, woof! -That wasn't great. | 0:36:07 | 0:36:09 | |
He likened himself to the god Thor. He calls you the Godfather. | 0:36:09 | 0:36:13 | |
Is it now in this modern day and age - | 0:36:13 | 0:36:16 | |
we might learn something here, Claude - that one has to come | 0:36:16 | 0:36:19 | |
out with a load of waffle, rather than getting to the point? | 0:36:19 | 0:36:22 | |
Is it necessary in this day and age, or what? | 0:36:22 | 0:36:24 | |
In order for people to think they're going to pitch something credibly, | 0:36:24 | 0:36:27 | |
they think that they have to fill it | 0:36:27 | 0:36:30 | |
full of big words, and the irony is that his business plan is | 0:36:30 | 0:36:34 | |
probably the most simple and straightforward of everybody's. | 0:36:34 | 0:36:38 | |
Right! Simple, straightforward - that's what I'm looking for. | 0:36:38 | 0:36:41 | |
It's a recruitment business in a niche sector in which | 0:36:41 | 0:36:44 | |
he is really passionate about. | 0:36:44 | 0:36:46 | |
Before I met him, I spent a sleepless night with | 0:36:46 | 0:36:49 | |
excitement at how I was going to rip him apart. | 0:36:49 | 0:36:53 | |
However, in truth, I'm mesmerised by the guy. | 0:36:53 | 0:36:57 | |
I believe the real man is the one who has put forward a very good, | 0:36:57 | 0:37:01 | |
sensible business plan and it's very much akin to what he's been doing. | 0:37:01 | 0:37:06 | |
-He's the one that has changed the most through the process. -Yeah. | 0:37:06 | 0:37:10 | |
I worry that he has a streak in his character that when he's | 0:37:10 | 0:37:13 | |
in a business situation, he is going to come out with something silly. | 0:37:13 | 0:37:16 | |
-Shall we move on? Let's talk about Nick. -He is an entrepreneur. | 0:37:16 | 0:37:23 | |
Straight from university, he's set up three businesses. | 0:37:23 | 0:37:27 | |
He's obsessed with this idea that he's had this unconventional | 0:37:27 | 0:37:30 | |
-background, no television, outdoors a lot. -Where was he living, a nunnery, then?! | 0:37:30 | 0:37:34 | |
-I think he lived in Switzerland. -Is he a monk?! | 0:37:34 | 0:37:37 | |
This is a guy who's very bright, | 0:37:37 | 0:37:40 | |
but his business plan looks like an MBA project. | 0:37:40 | 0:37:43 | |
I don't know how clever it is, how worthwhile it is. | 0:37:43 | 0:37:45 | |
His idea is an automated website that if you put your recipe in, | 0:37:45 | 0:37:51 | |
it will place the order online at a supermarket, is that right? | 0:37:51 | 0:37:55 | |
-That's right. -He's aiming at people who watch a cookery programme | 0:37:55 | 0:37:58 | |
on television, will go straight to the internet to download the recipe. | 0:37:58 | 0:38:01 | |
You've seen these social networking sites and things like that, | 0:38:01 | 0:38:04 | |
which, some of them are valued at billions. | 0:38:04 | 0:38:07 | |
Recipes doesn't kind of ring the bells of the NASDAQ people. | 0:38:07 | 0:38:12 | |
I asked him how much you would make if you invested £250,000. | 0:38:12 | 0:38:17 | |
He said after five years, we'd sell the company | 0:38:17 | 0:38:20 | |
and Lord Sugar would have £145 million. | 0:38:20 | 0:38:22 | |
Is that all? Oh, dear. Waste of time, isn't it, really(?) | 0:38:22 | 0:38:27 | |
-Yeah, it's a bit optimistic, isn't it? -I think so. | 0:38:27 | 0:38:30 | |
The one thing I would say is that whenever a task is | 0:38:30 | 0:38:33 | |
centred around an internet site, he has excelled at that. | 0:38:33 | 0:38:36 | |
Yes. So, anyway, Mike, what about Tom? | 0:38:36 | 0:38:41 | |
Tom wants to start a fine wine investment fund. | 0:38:41 | 0:38:46 | |
So, big risk, but potentially very big returns. | 0:38:46 | 0:38:50 | |
-Does he like the prospect of being a bit of a gambler? -I think so. | 0:38:50 | 0:38:54 | |
I think he's a real risk-taker. He's got a business at the moment that he started from scratch | 0:38:54 | 0:38:59 | |
and he's been very successful. He has lived quite a charmed existence, I'd say. | 0:38:59 | 0:39:03 | |
Can't be that charmed, he's a West Ham supporter! | 0:39:03 | 0:39:05 | |
THEY LAUGH | 0:39:05 | 0:39:07 | |
-How many millions does he want? -25 million. -And he's 23 years old? -Yep. | 0:39:07 | 0:39:12 | |
He's only 23 years old, only got two years experience in this business. | 0:39:12 | 0:39:15 | |
-That's not a lot. -I think it's very unfair that you say 23. | 0:39:15 | 0:39:19 | |
At 23, I was running a football club. | 0:39:19 | 0:39:21 | |
There are some very strong individuals who are young | 0:39:21 | 0:39:24 | |
that understand the business and can make a success. | 0:39:24 | 0:39:27 | |
-OK, I got it. -Alan, you were one of them. | 0:39:27 | 0:39:29 | |
When you were young, you went from hi-fi, into computers, into satellite, into football. | 0:39:29 | 0:39:33 | |
-All risks. -Yes. But it was all a risk of my money. | 0:39:33 | 0:39:38 | |
It's interesting, because when I read the business plan, | 0:39:38 | 0:39:41 | |
which is one of best written business plans I've ever read... | 0:39:41 | 0:39:44 | |
-Really? -He was very convincing. | 0:39:44 | 0:39:46 | |
It has got the potential for earning a lot of money, | 0:39:46 | 0:39:49 | |
becoming a very big business. | 0:39:49 | 0:39:51 | |
But my point would be that this guy needs to | 0:39:51 | 0:39:53 | |
kind of tone down his ambition somewhat. | 0:39:53 | 0:39:56 | |
Well, as ever, that's been very interesting. | 0:39:57 | 0:40:01 | |
I have got to speak to these people shortly | 0:40:01 | 0:40:05 | |
and I'm going decide which one of them will be my business partner. | 0:40:05 | 0:40:10 | |
So, thanks a lot for all the input you gave me. | 0:40:10 | 0:40:13 | |
Thank you. | 0:40:13 | 0:40:14 | |
PHONE RINGS | 0:40:27 | 0:40:29 | |
-Can you send the four candidates in, please? -Yes, Lord Sugar. | 0:40:29 | 0:40:32 | |
-Thank you. -You can go through to the boardroom now. | 0:40:32 | 0:40:35 | |
Well, you had a busy day yesterday with my four advisors | 0:40:49 | 0:40:53 | |
and I've had a chat with them and they've given me quite a lot of insight. | 0:40:53 | 0:40:58 | |
Now, Jade, | 0:40:58 | 0:41:00 | |
this is a call centre with the sole purpose of raising leads. | 0:41:00 | 0:41:04 | |
There's a lot of money to be made within that sector, | 0:41:04 | 0:41:07 | |
if you buy the right data and sell them to the right people. | 0:41:07 | 0:41:10 | |
There's me with the old Lord Sugar hat on. I'm in a business which phones people up | 0:41:10 | 0:41:14 | |
at eight o'clock in the morning and annoys them... | 0:41:14 | 0:41:16 | |
-10:00. -..and phones them on Sunday afternoon | 0:41:16 | 0:41:19 | |
while they're relaxing and annoys them even more, | 0:41:19 | 0:41:22 | |
and I'm sitting here like a dartboard, you know? | 0:41:22 | 0:41:24 | |
I'm thinking, yes, this is great headlines for our newspaper. | 0:41:24 | 0:41:28 | |
-You tell me why it's nothing to do with that. -OK. | 0:41:28 | 0:41:32 | |
People have to actually tick a box to say, I will hear from third parties. | 0:41:32 | 0:41:35 | |
I'm legally allowed to phone it, because I'm the third party. | 0:41:35 | 0:41:39 | |
So, it is regulated and you can make a lot of money from it, | 0:41:39 | 0:41:43 | |
-and it's very simple. -Good, that's what it says in the rule book. | 0:41:43 | 0:41:46 | |
I want to hear about how you go about doing it. | 0:41:46 | 0:41:49 | |
I know what data will work to get the highest conversion rates | 0:41:49 | 0:41:52 | |
when people phone it. I've worked in a call centre environment | 0:41:52 | 0:41:55 | |
-and I'm good at motivating. -I don't think anyone would doubt, | 0:41:55 | 0:41:58 | |
having worked with you on task, that you've got plenty of enthusiasm. | 0:41:58 | 0:42:02 | |
But one of the things that we heard from Lord Sugar's advisors was that the business plan just fell apart. | 0:42:02 | 0:42:08 | |
You run out of money after six months. | 0:42:08 | 0:42:11 | |
Within six months' time, but within three months, | 0:42:11 | 0:42:14 | |
money would start coming in. It's not glamorous, | 0:42:14 | 0:42:17 | |
-but it does make a lot of money. -All right, I'll move on a little. | 0:42:17 | 0:42:20 | |
Tom, you are proposing to put my name, my association, | 0:42:20 | 0:42:27 | |
and to go and ask external investors to invest up to £25 million in wine. | 0:42:27 | 0:42:33 | |
How are you going to convince me that's the way it should be done? | 0:42:33 | 0:42:36 | |
What I currently do, there's a saturation point, | 0:42:36 | 0:42:38 | |
and I think we're very close to that point. | 0:42:38 | 0:42:40 | |
-Your existing business is trading in wines. -That's correct. | 0:42:40 | 0:42:45 | |
Over the last two years, I have been approached by people who want to | 0:42:45 | 0:42:49 | |
include fine wine investment within a self-investment pension plan. | 0:42:49 | 0:42:52 | |
-I've been in the property business for a few years. -Yeah. | 0:42:52 | 0:42:55 | |
And I've had every fly boy on the planet come along to me | 0:42:55 | 0:42:58 | |
saying, I'm going to start a fund up and I want to use | 0:42:58 | 0:43:01 | |
your name in the fund. And suddenly, instinct said to me, no. Not really. | 0:43:01 | 0:43:05 | |
But fine wine is different to that. | 0:43:05 | 0:43:06 | |
It's all about the investment strategy, sourcing the wine, choosing the right vintages. | 0:43:06 | 0:43:10 | |
-But like everything in life, there's no guarantee. -Of course. | 0:43:10 | 0:43:14 | |
At the moment, the Far East market is rampant. | 0:43:14 | 0:43:17 | |
All it just needs is one day for some analyst to stand up | 0:43:17 | 0:43:20 | |
and say, the Chinese are sick of wine now, | 0:43:20 | 0:43:22 | |
and bang goes your Chateau Monchamp, or whatever it is, | 0:43:22 | 0:43:25 | |
goes flying down from 200 quid a bottle, down to 50 quid | 0:43:25 | 0:43:28 | |
-and then you're stuck with it. -But fine wine is a luxury good and all those companies | 0:43:28 | 0:43:32 | |
are expanding into Asia, and they wouldn't be doing that unless | 0:43:32 | 0:43:35 | |
they felt this market was robust enough in that region. | 0:43:35 | 0:43:38 | |
-You've got a wine business at the moment which is making a bit of money. -Yeah. | 0:43:38 | 0:43:41 | |
Don't you think your business plan is trying to run before you can walk? | 0:43:41 | 0:43:45 | |
I would make big claims if I didn't think I could fulfil them and I wouldn't come here | 0:43:45 | 0:43:49 | |
-unless I've had previous enquiries that I've had to turn down. -OK. Ricky. | 0:43:49 | 0:43:54 | |
Now, I understand that you're going to teach an old dog some new tricks. | 0:43:54 | 0:43:59 | |
I'm the old dog here, yeah? I'll get on my hind legs and listen. | 0:43:59 | 0:44:03 | |
You say, "Lord Sugar is getting to the later stage in his career, | 0:44:03 | 0:44:08 | |
"where he's going to start thinking about succession planning." | 0:44:08 | 0:44:12 | |
Have I got to let my kids know about your new dadda coming, or what? | 0:44:12 | 0:44:16 | |
If I'm very honest with you, Lord Sugar, what I've learned in | 0:44:16 | 0:44:19 | |
11 weeks, in business, it's actions that speak volumes, not your mouth. | 0:44:19 | 0:44:23 | |
-I should shut my trap a lot more. -I had comments from people saying, | 0:44:23 | 0:44:26 | |
can we separate the showman from the real business man? But the one good thing going for you, | 0:44:26 | 0:44:31 | |
when I've cut through all your waffle, is that you want to start a recruitment agency in what | 0:44:31 | 0:44:36 | |
-I would call a niche market that specialises in scientific industry. -Yes, the market is huge. | 0:44:36 | 0:44:41 | |
The pharmaceutical and biotechnology, and every other scientific industry in the UK, | 0:44:41 | 0:44:45 | |
is much larger than what I deal with now. So, I'm looking at other organisations who know me | 0:44:45 | 0:44:49 | |
-from my reputation, but don't deal with me... -They know you for you reputation already? | 0:44:49 | 0:44:53 | |
-Yes, I've placed a number... -You're an icon in the pharmaceutical industry? | 0:44:53 | 0:44:57 | |
I've placed several hundred people into professional jobs across the UK. | 0:44:57 | 0:45:00 | |
I've got a large list of recommendations, testaments, | 0:45:00 | 0:45:03 | |
based upon the experience they've had with me. | 0:45:03 | 0:45:06 | |
You've gone to a lot of detail in this business model. | 0:45:06 | 0:45:09 | |
I hope you're going to invite me along to | 0:45:09 | 0:45:11 | |
the fourth year's Christmas party. You've got funds in there allocated | 0:45:11 | 0:45:15 | |
for how much you're spending at the Christmas party. | 0:45:15 | 0:45:18 | |
-Yeah! -Very forward thinking. | 0:45:18 | 0:45:19 | |
-But I wanted it to be as detailed as possible. -Good. | 0:45:19 | 0:45:23 | |
So, Nick, this business model of yours, | 0:45:23 | 0:45:26 | |
which is effectively some kind of system of translating | 0:45:26 | 0:45:30 | |
your menus into your purchasing list at an online grocer. | 0:45:30 | 0:45:34 | |
-Exactly. -That is an enormous software task, | 0:45:34 | 0:45:38 | |
and I think I asked myself this - why? | 0:45:38 | 0:45:41 | |
The amount of work and effort that's going to be involved in it. | 0:45:41 | 0:45:45 | |
-Where am I missing the point? -I'm seeing two questions. | 0:45:45 | 0:45:48 | |
First, it achievable? And second, is it useful if you do achieve it? | 0:45:48 | 0:45:52 | |
It's achievable, I get that. But so's sending the man to the moon. | 0:45:52 | 0:45:56 | |
What are we going to get out of it at the end? | 0:45:56 | 0:45:58 | |
People currently go shopping for ingredients, | 0:45:58 | 0:46:00 | |
but what they're looking for is recipes. | 0:46:00 | 0:46:02 | |
-How do you know that? -It's what I do, it's what lot of friends do. | 0:46:02 | 0:46:05 | |
-It's what I understood people do. -But who could be bothered with it? | 0:46:05 | 0:46:09 | |
I'm thinking about, darling, get me a spaghetti carbonara tonight. | 0:46:09 | 0:46:12 | |
Get my programme out here and I'll go into that and order this, | 0:46:12 | 0:46:15 | |
and it will go off like that. It's four quid of purchasing | 0:46:15 | 0:46:18 | |
and this is like a trillion man-hours of software writing. | 0:46:18 | 0:46:23 | |
By the time I've typed it all in there, I could've gone out | 0:46:23 | 0:46:26 | |
to the local restaurant and picked it up myself. | 0:46:26 | 0:46:28 | |
My only defence for that is that I have got a fully working prototype. | 0:46:28 | 0:46:32 | |
I have got real publishers who have integrated this button, and it does | 0:46:32 | 0:46:35 | |
work on their websites and it really could become a very big player. | 0:46:35 | 0:46:38 | |
Nick, why should I favour you over these other people? | 0:46:38 | 0:46:42 | |
I think with the business plan, mine is a genuinely new idea. | 0:46:42 | 0:46:46 | |
Comparing it to everyone else, I don't think the ideas are that innovative. | 0:46:46 | 0:46:50 | |
They're ordinary businesses that will make money, but probably not a huge amount. | 0:46:50 | 0:46:54 | |
-Rick, you've got a smile on your face. -I've got a smile on my face | 0:46:54 | 0:46:57 | |
because you think ours are quite ordinary. But your business plan might be innovative, | 0:46:57 | 0:47:00 | |
but you haven't got experience in that industry. | 0:47:00 | 0:47:03 | |
I have been running a software company for 18, 24 months, and that | 0:47:03 | 0:47:06 | |
is essentially what I'm proposing here, is a software business. | 0:47:06 | 0:47:09 | |
What happens when another great idea pops in your head | 0:47:09 | 0:47:11 | |
-and you haven't made any more money? -So, Ricky, why should I choose you? | 0:47:11 | 0:47:14 | |
You should choose me as your business partner, | 0:47:14 | 0:47:17 | |
because I have extensive experience in exactly what I do. | 0:47:17 | 0:47:20 | |
I think I've taken the most out of yourself, Nick and Karren. | 0:47:20 | 0:47:23 | |
When you've told things to happen, I've made them happen. | 0:47:23 | 0:47:25 | |
I don't want someone who's just a bit of a yes man. | 0:47:25 | 0:47:28 | |
I'm going to be running this business, Lord Sugar. | 0:47:28 | 0:47:30 | |
I don't think you need to tell me what to do. | 0:47:30 | 0:47:33 | |
Four business plans and I do see | 0:47:35 | 0:47:39 | |
some light at the end of the tunnel in all four of them, to be frank. | 0:47:39 | 0:47:42 | |
I think I've got to kind of make some decisions now, really. | 0:47:43 | 0:47:48 | |
Tom, I've got this worrying concern that | 0:47:52 | 0:47:59 | |
someone of my position in society, so to speak, | 0:47:59 | 0:48:03 | |
cannot afford to be involved in something that goes wrong. | 0:48:03 | 0:48:08 | |
It's not as if everything I've done has gone right in my life. | 0:48:08 | 0:48:12 | |
It hasn't. Trust me, I've made lots and lots of mistakes. | 0:48:12 | 0:48:15 | |
But this could be a calamity with my name associated to it. | 0:48:15 | 0:48:19 | |
-Do you understand what I mean? -Yes. | 0:48:19 | 0:48:22 | |
And Nick, you know, | 0:48:23 | 0:48:25 | |
I remember on one occasion that the team was asked, we need to | 0:48:25 | 0:48:30 | |
take someone over to the team, and they all chose you straightaway. | 0:48:30 | 0:48:34 | |
So, you've clearly got something there. | 0:48:34 | 0:48:37 | |
You've clearly got something there. | 0:48:37 | 0:48:39 | |
But I've just got to think about the viability of this business model of yours. | 0:48:39 | 0:48:45 | |
Ricky. Ricky Ratchet Jaws. | 0:48:50 | 0:48:53 | |
-At the end of the day, your business plan is a recruitment agency. -It is. | 0:48:53 | 0:48:57 | |
You've worked for someone for a long time in the field, | 0:48:57 | 0:49:00 | |
you're an expert in the field. I can understand how yours can work. | 0:49:00 | 0:49:04 | |
Jade, I reckon you are a great sales lady. | 0:49:07 | 0:49:11 | |
I think I would be a good manager and motivator as well. To a tee. | 0:49:11 | 0:49:15 | |
-I like your enthusiasm and all that stuff. -Thank you. | 0:49:15 | 0:49:19 | |
But I'm not sure whether I want to put my name to something | 0:49:19 | 0:49:23 | |
where perhaps I would be looked as disturbing people at home, really. | 0:49:23 | 0:49:27 | |
So, I'm not going to mess around here, Jade. | 0:49:30 | 0:49:33 | |
-I don't think that you are my business partner, to be honest. -OK. | 0:49:33 | 0:49:37 | |
I have enjoyed your presence here. | 0:49:39 | 0:49:42 | |
-Don't give up the dream of having your own business. -I won't. | 0:49:42 | 0:49:46 | |
On this occasion, I've got to say to you with regret... | 0:49:46 | 0:49:48 | |
..Jade, you're fired. | 0:49:49 | 0:49:52 | |
Thank you very much. OK. Good luck, guys. | 0:49:52 | 0:49:55 | |
It's a tough one, because I've got three very bright fellas here. | 0:50:11 | 0:50:17 | |
I think, on balance, Tom... | 0:50:19 | 0:50:23 | |
£25 million. | 0:50:26 | 0:50:30 | |
I might like to think about throttling back on your ambition. | 0:50:30 | 0:50:36 | |
Yep. | 0:50:36 | 0:50:38 | |
Ricky, I've always got this underlying worry about this | 0:50:39 | 0:50:44 | |
madness where you came into this process, telling me | 0:50:44 | 0:50:47 | |
how great you was, going to teach the old dog new tricks and all that. | 0:50:47 | 0:50:52 | |
You say you've learned to stop bigging yourself up. | 0:50:52 | 0:50:56 | |
I wonder whether you have. | 0:50:56 | 0:50:59 | |
I think, Nick, you're obviously a very intelligent fella. | 0:51:01 | 0:51:04 | |
But I told you a long time ago | 0:51:04 | 0:51:06 | |
when you came into this process that I ain't going to do any work here. | 0:51:06 | 0:51:10 | |
Yep. | 0:51:10 | 0:51:12 | |
And I can already feel myself getting dragged into this thing | 0:51:12 | 0:51:15 | |
in the sense of the enormity of this task. | 0:51:15 | 0:51:18 | |
What I don't really understand is where the money is, to be honest. | 0:51:19 | 0:51:24 | |
I ain't got it here on menus and recipes. | 0:51:26 | 0:51:30 | |
And for that reason, Nick, I'm going to say on this occasion that... | 0:51:33 | 0:51:40 | |
-..you're fired. -Thanks for the experience. | 0:51:41 | 0:51:45 | |
Good luck, guys. | 0:51:47 | 0:51:48 | |
Well, that just leaves me with you two. Big headache here. | 0:52:04 | 0:52:07 | |
Big, big headache. | 0:52:07 | 0:52:09 | |
I could do with some of your wine, maybe, to relax. | 0:52:09 | 0:52:12 | |
I'd like you to step outside. | 0:52:14 | 0:52:16 | |
I'm going to have a final chat with Nick and Karren. | 0:52:16 | 0:52:22 | |
And when you come back in here, | 0:52:22 | 0:52:23 | |
I'm going to decide which one of you is going to be my business partner. | 0:52:23 | 0:52:27 | |
-Off you go. -Thank you. -Thank you. | 0:52:27 | 0:52:30 | |
These two guys actually want to be in the business that they've been in, which is very credible. | 0:52:41 | 0:52:47 | |
Tom's business, you're quite right, is a risky business. | 0:52:47 | 0:52:51 | |
If you just throttled him back on his first year ambitions, | 0:52:52 | 0:52:56 | |
I think his business would be electrically exciting. | 0:52:56 | 0:53:00 | |
Fast-moving, tremendous returns to be made. | 0:53:00 | 0:53:03 | |
But I have never done business with other people's money. | 0:53:04 | 0:53:08 | |
That is the problem. | 0:53:08 | 0:53:10 | |
Do you really want a pedestrian recruitment business? | 0:53:10 | 0:53:13 | |
Or do you want one last final hurrah? | 0:53:13 | 0:53:17 | |
Ricky has great credibility in the field, he's got a degree in it, | 0:53:17 | 0:53:22 | |
and you shouldn't rule out Ricky because he's safe. | 0:53:22 | 0:53:25 | |
PHONE RINGS | 0:53:25 | 0:53:27 | |
Lord Sugar will see you now. | 0:53:27 | 0:53:31 | |
Well, gentlemen, you are down to these last two. | 0:53:43 | 0:53:46 | |
That in itself is an amazing achievement. | 0:53:46 | 0:53:49 | |
I've had a chat with Nick and Karren. | 0:53:49 | 0:53:55 | |
I mean, Tom, it says here that in your first full year of trading | 0:53:55 | 0:53:58 | |
of this business of yours, you posted a turnover of £1.25 million. | 0:53:58 | 0:54:03 | |
-Yeah. -Now, that's bloody good. -Yeah. | 0:54:03 | 0:54:06 | |
And the thing is with this hedge fund and wine business, | 0:54:06 | 0:54:09 | |
-I might not mind doing it once I have a comfort feel about you. -Yeah. | 0:54:09 | 0:54:14 | |
And it's not until you get down and working with somebody that | 0:54:14 | 0:54:17 | |
-you can say, you know what? Let's go to that next level. -OK. | 0:54:17 | 0:54:21 | |
I did send out a little message to you about tailoring back your ambitions. | 0:54:21 | 0:54:26 | |
My target would be 25 million. But it doesn't have to be that. We can tailor that back. | 0:54:26 | 0:54:30 | |
If there was a proposal on the table, I'd be a fool not to listen to that. | 0:54:30 | 0:54:34 | |
This could be a very exciting business, this wine business, but his proposition is much simpler. | 0:54:34 | 0:54:39 | |
There's a man that's done it before. Already working for a firm. | 0:54:39 | 0:54:43 | |
All he wants to do is do what I did when I was 17 years old, | 0:54:43 | 0:54:46 | |
walk out of a firm that I worked for and start my own business. | 0:54:46 | 0:54:50 | |
-OK. -I think that's what you want to do. -I've always wanted my own organisation. | 0:54:50 | 0:54:53 | |
I have experience at one of the best places in the country, | 0:54:53 | 0:54:56 | |
and it's my time to set up my own and run forward a bit. | 0:54:56 | 0:54:59 | |
-So, when you've made your millions... -Yes. -..would you invest in his hedge fund? -Not at all. | 0:54:59 | 0:55:03 | |
-I don't know anything about wine. It's nothing that interests me or excites me. -Me as a person? | 0:55:03 | 0:55:09 | |
You as a person, I think you're fantastic. The wine industry isn't for me. | 0:55:09 | 0:55:12 | |
So, tell me, why should I invest with you and not him? | 0:55:12 | 0:55:16 | |
I'm a fantastic prospect for the future. | 0:55:16 | 0:55:19 | |
I'm somebody who's channelled his own career to | 0:55:19 | 0:55:22 | |
the point we're at, sitting opposite you now. | 0:55:22 | 0:55:24 | |
With me, I'm not a risk for you. | 0:55:24 | 0:55:26 | |
Tom, you know, do you think you're a bit of a risk-taker? | 0:55:26 | 0:55:30 | |
Yes, I do like to take a risk, | 0:55:30 | 0:55:33 | |
and if I think I'm right in something then I will back myself. | 0:55:33 | 0:55:36 | |
The difference between myself and Ricky is, I've been there, | 0:55:36 | 0:55:38 | |
I've done it in terms of setting up a company and running one, | 0:55:38 | 0:55:41 | |
and the risk with Ricky is that he hasn't actually been there. | 0:55:41 | 0:55:44 | |
He may know his field very well, but I've proven I can be successful, | 0:55:44 | 0:55:47 | |
it can be profitable, and I've shown I can grow my turnover year on year. | 0:55:47 | 0:55:51 | |
It's a very, very difficult moment for me right now. | 0:55:52 | 0:55:58 | |
I'll tell you where I am at. | 0:55:58 | 0:56:01 | |
Yours is very straightforward and I am wondering... | 0:56:03 | 0:56:07 | |
I'm not getting any younger, I suppose, | 0:56:07 | 0:56:10 | |
and I'm here to give a bit of help to somebody. | 0:56:10 | 0:56:14 | |
From time to time. A bit of guidance. | 0:56:15 | 0:56:18 | |
Yours is the simpler business. | 0:56:18 | 0:56:20 | |
He's known me a long time and he knows I've got | 0:56:21 | 0:56:24 | |
a bit of a devil in me about wanting to have a little gamble here | 0:56:24 | 0:56:27 | |
and there, go into something which I haven't done before. | 0:56:27 | 0:56:31 | |
His business, it offers that kind of bit of devilment, this wine thing. | 0:56:31 | 0:56:37 | |
A bit of safety over here, and there's a bit of devilment | 0:56:38 | 0:56:43 | |
over there, and that's really where I'm stuck at the moment. | 0:56:43 | 0:56:49 | |
Because, to be honest with you, | 0:56:49 | 0:56:51 | |
you're both credible people to invest the money in. | 0:56:51 | 0:56:54 | |
So, is it the devil or is it the safety? | 0:56:54 | 0:56:56 | |
I've got to make a decision. | 0:57:05 | 0:57:07 | |
And I should keep to my ethos of keeping it simple, | 0:57:14 | 0:57:18 | |
keeping it straightforward and so, Ricky, | 0:57:18 | 0:57:22 | |
you're going to be my business partner. | 0:57:22 | 0:57:25 | |
Ricky, you're hired. | 0:57:25 | 0:57:26 | |
-Fantastic, thank you very much. Thank you. -Well done. | 0:57:26 | 0:57:30 | |
Thanks a lot. | 0:57:30 | 0:57:31 | |
Knowing that I've won this process, | 0:57:46 | 0:57:49 | |
I can't formulate or articulate the words to say what it means. | 0:57:49 | 0:57:52 | |
It's the recognition that everything that I've done has been worthwhile and it's important for me | 0:57:52 | 0:57:57 | |
that people see that there's more to me than first meets the eye. | 0:57:57 | 0:58:01 | |
Lord Sugar and I will be a powerful force to reckon with. | 0:58:01 | 0:58:03 | |
16 candidates, one winner. | 0:58:05 | 0:58:08 | |
Lord Sugar's search for his business partner is over. | 0:58:10 | 0:58:14 | |
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