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You're fired. You're fired. You're fired. Go. | 0:00:04 | 0:00:06 | |
Rocksolid, are we ready? | 0:00:06 | 0:00:08 | |
Everyone is talking. | 0:00:08 | 0:00:10 | |
-Lying piece of -BLEEP. -He betrays me in the job. | 0:00:10 | 0:00:13 | |
I'm putting you in charge of this. Make the decision. | 0:00:13 | 0:00:15 | |
Now I know why Dennis Rodman started drinking. | 0:00:15 | 0:00:18 | |
The critics are raving. | 0:00:18 | 0:00:19 | |
Goodbye. | 0:00:19 | 0:00:20 | |
Ohh. | 0:00:20 | 0:00:21 | |
Let's do it. | 0:00:21 | 0:00:23 | |
Raising money for charity! | 0:00:23 | 0:00:24 | |
She said Carol first. | 0:00:24 | 0:00:25 | |
I don't know what to tell you to do, Bret, | 0:00:25 | 0:00:27 | |
because I'm not the Project Manager. | 0:00:27 | 0:00:29 | |
They can get their asses fired so fast, | 0:00:29 | 0:00:31 | |
your head will spin. | 0:00:31 | 0:00:32 | |
And we're just warming up. | 0:00:32 | 0:00:34 | |
Muggles and wizards, Muggles and wizards. | 0:00:34 | 0:00:37 | |
-Aaaah! -Aaaah! | 0:00:37 | 0:00:39 | |
-Wing! -SHE SNORTS | 0:00:39 | 0:00:41 | |
-BLEEP -sake, Cyndi, shut up! | 0:00:41 | 0:00:43 | |
-Rosie O'Donnell. -Ugh. She's disgusting. | 0:00:43 | 0:00:46 | |
Let's go! | 0:00:46 | 0:00:46 | |
My brain to my mouth sometimes is a disaster. | 0:00:46 | 0:00:48 | |
Dumb bitches. | 0:00:48 | 0:00:50 | |
As the celebrities fight to survive the pressure... | 0:00:50 | 0:00:53 | |
Her wordiness can be a little difficult. | 0:00:53 | 0:00:55 | |
-You're throwing me under the truck. -No, no, no, I'm not. | 0:00:55 | 0:00:57 | |
..ass on the line, start throwing people under the bus. | 0:00:57 | 0:00:59 | |
Rod! Rod! | 0:00:59 | 0:01:00 | |
Don't tell me what to do. | 0:01:00 | 0:01:02 | |
Don't forget... | 0:01:02 | 0:01:04 | |
What I'm saying is | 0:01:04 | 0:01:05 | |
-you're getting me hyped up, so I -BLEEP -explode. | 0:01:05 | 0:01:07 | |
..everything is happening on the streets. | 0:01:07 | 0:01:09 | |
I think that we can win this. | 0:01:09 | 0:01:10 | |
No, no, no. Hi. | 0:01:11 | 0:01:12 | |
Every rug that we used, I carried one. | 0:01:12 | 0:01:16 | |
And anything can happen in the boardroom. | 0:01:16 | 0:01:19 | |
You all know an answer. | 0:01:19 | 0:01:20 | |
But somebody's got to be fired. | 0:01:20 | 0:01:21 | |
-I was sticking up for you. -It's all bull -BLEEP. | 0:01:21 | 0:01:24 | |
Just relax. Can I finish or not? | 0:01:24 | 0:01:27 | |
-I wish you people could answer the -BLEEP -damn -BLEEP -question. | 0:01:27 | 0:01:32 | |
Who knows what will happen next? | 0:01:32 | 0:01:36 | |
Smile! | 0:01:36 | 0:01:38 | |
-This is a reality check. Go -BLEEP -yourself. | 0:01:42 | 0:01:46 | |
Last week, the teams were given some surprising news. | 0:01:46 | 0:01:50 | |
Sharon's not here. | 0:01:50 | 0:01:51 | |
She's been sick as a dog. | 0:01:51 | 0:01:52 | |
We weren't going to have Sharon, | 0:01:52 | 0:01:53 | |
so I felt a little bit cheated as Project Manager. | 0:01:53 | 0:01:57 | |
Tasked with creating two commercials for Right Guard | 0:01:57 | 0:01:59 | |
starring NBA legends Clyde Drexler | 0:01:59 | 0:02:01 | |
and Scottie Pippin, Maria Kanellis questioned | 0:02:01 | 0:02:04 | |
if Selita Ebanks was pulling her weight. | 0:02:04 | 0:02:07 | |
Here I am carrying a sink and fridge, | 0:02:07 | 0:02:09 | |
but Selita disappeared on me. | 0:02:09 | 0:02:12 | |
That girl is strong. | 0:02:12 | 0:02:13 | |
On Rocksolid, | 0:02:13 | 0:02:14 | |
Bret Michaels received difficult news about his daughter. | 0:02:14 | 0:02:17 | |
My daughter... they're testing her for diabetes, | 0:02:17 | 0:02:20 | |
so I'm freaking out right now. | 0:02:20 | 0:02:21 | |
And family matters took Michael Johnson out of the competition. | 0:02:21 | 0:02:25 | |
Take care of your family. We love you, brother. | 0:02:25 | 0:02:27 | |
We're going to miss you. | 0:02:27 | 0:02:29 | |
In the boardroom, | 0:02:29 | 0:02:30 | |
Rocksolid's losing streak finally came to an end... | 0:02:30 | 0:02:33 | |
They loved the men's commercial. | 0:02:33 | 0:02:35 | |
Yes! | 0:02:35 | 0:02:36 | |
..leaving Tenacity to battle it out. | 0:02:36 | 0:02:39 | |
Can I say something? | 0:02:39 | 0:02:41 | |
Cyndi, you're not even coming back in. | 0:02:41 | 0:02:42 | |
-You should just be sitting back. -OK. | 0:02:42 | 0:02:44 | |
Oh, thanks, Mom(!) | 0:02:44 | 0:02:45 | |
But it was Selita's silence | 0:02:45 | 0:02:46 | |
that singled her out. | 0:02:46 | 0:02:48 | |
I'm looking at Selita, | 0:02:48 | 0:02:49 | |
and I don't see the same fire in your belly. | 0:02:49 | 0:02:53 | |
Selita, you're fired. Go. | 0:02:53 | 0:02:54 | |
Listen, between my daughter and this, | 0:03:03 | 0:03:05 | |
I said, "If I lose tonight"... I was sitting in that chair. | 0:03:05 | 0:03:07 | |
I'm like, "If I lose, I may just walk | 0:03:07 | 0:03:09 | |
-"right to the -BLEEP -highest window and just..." | 0:03:09 | 0:03:11 | |
It's been way too long since we won, | 0:03:11 | 0:03:13 | |
and let me tell you something... | 0:03:13 | 0:03:14 | |
Tonight, with everything that's going on | 0:03:14 | 0:03:16 | |
in my personal life with my daughter, | 0:03:16 | 0:03:18 | |
I was willing it to win. | 0:03:18 | 0:03:20 | |
Yeah, but what about the test results? They come tomorrow? | 0:03:20 | 0:03:22 | |
They're supposed to come today, and we haven't gotten them yet. | 0:03:22 | 0:03:25 | |
Let's drink. Come on. | 0:03:25 | 0:03:26 | |
I'll find out about my daughter tomorrow, | 0:03:26 | 0:03:28 | |
and this is the beginning of a positive great karma right here. | 0:03:28 | 0:03:33 | |
She is not going to be diabetic. | 0:03:33 | 0:03:34 | |
It's going to be negative, and we're going to rock. | 0:03:34 | 0:03:36 | |
It's going to be great. | 0:03:36 | 0:03:37 | |
It was a really tough thing to direct. | 0:03:37 | 0:03:39 | |
Honey, it was a very tough thing. | 0:03:39 | 0:03:41 | |
She was... She was acting it, and she was directing it. | 0:03:41 | 0:03:43 | |
But that's the problem. | 0:03:43 | 0:03:44 | |
I mean, it was all about Holly, not for nothing, | 0:03:44 | 0:03:48 | |
and then she turns around to me and tells me what to do. | 0:03:48 | 0:03:51 | |
I don't need a mother. | 0:03:51 | 0:03:53 | |
The younguns...they don't listen. | 0:03:53 | 0:03:55 | |
They turn their backs and ignore what I'm saying, | 0:03:55 | 0:03:57 | |
and I feel like, "Big mistake." | 0:03:57 | 0:04:00 | |
Uh-oh. Here we go. | 0:04:02 | 0:04:04 | |
Hey, guys. | 0:04:05 | 0:04:07 | |
-Aww. -Hi. | 0:04:07 | 0:04:09 | |
-Selita! -Hi. | 0:04:09 | 0:04:12 | |
Why Selita? | 0:04:12 | 0:04:13 | |
I don't know. | 0:04:13 | 0:04:15 | |
Are you OK? | 0:04:15 | 0:04:17 | |
I'm good. I'm good, yeah. | 0:04:17 | 0:04:19 | |
'I was very disappointed in the boardroom. | 0:04:19 | 0:04:21 | |
'We were at a disadvantage.' | 0:04:21 | 0:04:22 | |
We got one person who's sick, Sharon Osbourne, | 0:04:22 | 0:04:25 | |
and then we had Cyndi Lauper. | 0:04:25 | 0:04:26 | |
Somehow she had all this observation | 0:04:26 | 0:04:30 | |
of a task that she wasn't even really present for. | 0:04:30 | 0:04:32 | |
So now you're mad at me? | 0:04:32 | 0:04:34 | |
I just felt like you were safe and exempt, | 0:04:34 | 0:04:36 | |
-and at that point... -I didn't want them to fire Selita! | 0:04:36 | 0:04:39 | |
I didn't want them to do it, | 0:04:39 | 0:04:40 | |
but you weren't... you were defending... | 0:04:40 | 0:04:41 | |
You can do whatever you want to do, Cyndi... | 0:04:41 | 0:04:43 | |
whatever you want to do. | 0:04:43 | 0:04:44 | |
The Kumbaya moment is over. | 0:04:44 | 0:04:46 | |
I didn't want Selita to go, either. | 0:04:46 | 0:04:48 | |
-I didn't want Maria to go. -All right, zip it. Zip. | 0:04:48 | 0:04:51 | |
RIP Kumbaya, because now it's game on. | 0:04:51 | 0:04:55 | |
# Money, money, money, money | 0:05:00 | 0:05:04 | |
# Money! | 0:05:04 | 0:05:07 | |
# Money, money, money, money | 0:05:07 | 0:05:10 | |
# Money! # | 0:05:10 | 0:05:11 | |
So, Clyde, when I'm... | 0:05:19 | 0:05:20 | |
when I'm not getting roasted by Mr Trump in the boardroom, | 0:05:20 | 0:05:24 | |
this is my reality, mate...the kitchen. | 0:05:24 | 0:05:27 | |
So, I'm here at the New York City Rescue Mission, | 0:05:27 | 0:05:28 | |
which is one of the agencies that Feeding America supports. | 0:05:28 | 0:05:31 | |
Feeding America's my charity, because food's my world, | 0:05:31 | 0:05:34 | |
and I want to make it happen for people that don't have enough to eat. | 0:05:34 | 0:05:36 | |
So, do you cook, Clyde? | 0:05:36 | 0:05:37 | |
-Not at all. -No? Never? | 0:05:37 | 0:05:39 | |
Never. | 0:05:39 | 0:05:40 | |
Today I've got a special guest in the kitchen. | 0:05:40 | 0:05:42 | |
It's not every day that I can say I've got Clyde Drexler | 0:05:42 | 0:05:44 | |
standing next to me as my sous chef. | 0:05:44 | 0:05:46 | |
-Hey, guys. -How are you? | 0:05:46 | 0:05:47 | |
Phil, this is Clyde. | 0:05:47 | 0:05:48 | |
-Hey, Clyde. Nice to see you. -Good to see you, as well. | 0:05:48 | 0:05:50 | |
-Hey, Curtis. Nice to see you. -Great to see you. | 0:05:50 | 0:05:51 | |
I wasn't expecting company today. | 0:05:51 | 0:05:54 | |
So, we've got a bit of a surprise for you, mate. | 0:05:54 | 0:05:56 | |
-I love it. -Have a look at what's for lunch. | 0:05:56 | 0:05:58 | |
All right. | 0:05:58 | 0:06:00 | |
Chicken and leek pie. | 0:06:00 | 0:06:02 | |
And... | 0:06:02 | 0:06:04 | |
20,000! Holy cow! | 0:06:04 | 0:06:07 | |
-That's awesome! -How cool is that? | 0:06:07 | 0:06:10 | |
I have a surprise for you both. | 0:06:10 | 0:06:12 | |
From Right Guard Total Defence 5, | 0:06:12 | 0:06:14 | |
we have a matching donation of 20,000. | 0:06:14 | 0:06:17 | |
No way! | 0:06:17 | 0:06:18 | |
Wow! Fantastic! | 0:06:18 | 0:06:20 | |
'I work for an organisation, Feeding America,' | 0:06:20 | 0:06:22 | |
that can take a dollar donation and make that seven meals. | 0:06:22 | 0:06:25 | |
So, a 40,000 donation is 280,000 meals. | 0:06:25 | 0:06:30 | |
To go back to Feeding America with that type of a donation | 0:06:30 | 0:06:34 | |
is just amazing. | 0:06:34 | 0:06:35 | |
I can't thank those guys enough. | 0:06:35 | 0:06:36 | |
It's time to get cooking, Curtis. 280,000 meals. | 0:06:36 | 0:06:38 | |
You got a lot of work to do - a lot of work to do. | 0:06:38 | 0:06:41 | |
'Things have been pretty crazy on Celebrity Apprentice. | 0:06:41 | 0:06:43 | |
'You know, it's been long hours and tough work,' | 0:06:43 | 0:06:45 | |
but right now, there's 49 million Americans | 0:06:45 | 0:06:48 | |
that are still affected by hunger. | 0:06:48 | 0:06:49 | |
What can I get you, sir? A bit of everything. | 0:06:49 | 0:06:52 | |
To come down here, that reminds me why I'm doing it. | 0:06:52 | 0:06:54 | |
Feeding America's so important to me, | 0:06:54 | 0:06:55 | |
and I'm so determined to win this. | 0:06:55 | 0:06:57 | |
-There you go, my friend. -Thanks, man. -You're welcome. | 0:06:57 | 0:07:00 | |
Come on, fellas. | 0:07:16 | 0:07:18 | |
I was a bit surprised to see Trace Adkins walk in. | 0:07:32 | 0:07:35 | |
He's a big guy. | 0:07:35 | 0:07:36 | |
So, once I saw him, I knew it was about music. | 0:07:36 | 0:07:38 | |
Sharon's still not here. | 0:07:38 | 0:07:40 | |
She's very, very sick. | 0:07:40 | 0:07:42 | |
It's up to you whether or not you decide to utilise her. | 0:07:42 | 0:07:46 | |
I don't know what's happening with Sharon, | 0:07:46 | 0:07:47 | |
but pretty soon we're going to have to make a decision. | 0:07:47 | 0:07:50 | |
I have to say I think there's a little bit | 0:07:50 | 0:07:52 | |
of preferential treatment going on with Sharon, | 0:07:52 | 0:07:54 | |
and I really, really like her a lot, | 0:07:54 | 0:07:56 | |
but she got to play by the rules like everybody else. | 0:07:56 | 0:07:59 | |
We're standing in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame annexe - | 0:07:59 | 0:08:02 | |
an amazing place. | 0:08:02 | 0:08:04 | |
In fact, I expect to see Cyndi and Bret here someday. | 0:08:04 | 0:08:08 | |
You'll get in. After The Apprentice, You're going to get in. You watch. | 0:08:08 | 0:08:11 | |
You're going to be doing something that, to me, | 0:08:11 | 0:08:15 | |
is very interesting, | 0:08:15 | 0:08:16 | |
and I think I sort of did it a couple of years ago, | 0:08:16 | 0:08:19 | |
and that had to do with Trace. | 0:08:19 | 0:08:21 | |
He did really well on Celebrity Apprentice, | 0:08:21 | 0:08:25 | |
and today he's the biggest country star there is. | 0:08:25 | 0:08:28 | |
So, you're going to be taking two young country stars. | 0:08:28 | 0:08:32 | |
Trace, explain. | 0:08:32 | 0:08:34 | |
You're going to make over two young country artists, | 0:08:34 | 0:08:37 | |
and you're going to prepare them for an interview | 0:08:37 | 0:08:40 | |
with People Country magazine and to do a live performance. | 0:08:40 | 0:08:44 | |
At that performance will be the journalists from People, | 0:08:44 | 0:08:47 | |
a well-known country-music disc jockey, | 0:08:47 | 0:08:49 | |
and Pete Fisher, general manager of the Grand Ole Opry, | 0:08:49 | 0:08:51 | |
judging you on this task. | 0:08:51 | 0:08:53 | |
You're going to be judged on the overall makeover, | 0:08:53 | 0:08:56 | |
the press kit that you'll be creating to promote them, | 0:08:56 | 0:08:58 | |
and whatever value you can add | 0:08:58 | 0:09:00 | |
to the artist's potential breakout. | 0:09:00 | 0:09:02 | |
Pick your Project Manager, please. | 0:09:02 | 0:09:05 | |
Cyndi. | 0:09:05 | 0:09:06 | |
I think I could do this. | 0:09:06 | 0:09:07 | |
Going to be Cyndi? | 0:09:07 | 0:09:08 | |
-No huddle needed. -Yeah. | 0:09:08 | 0:09:10 | |
I would think, right? Cyndi. | 0:09:10 | 0:09:12 | |
Well, I love working with other artists. | 0:09:12 | 0:09:14 | |
It's what I do. I reinvent myself all the time. | 0:09:14 | 0:09:18 | |
I think Bill has got a shot. | 0:09:18 | 0:09:20 | |
He's got to go, man. He's got to go. | 0:09:20 | 0:09:22 | |
I mean, I would love to do it, but it's your time to shine, man. | 0:09:22 | 0:09:24 | |
OK, men? | 0:09:24 | 0:09:26 | |
Goldberg? | 0:09:26 | 0:09:28 | |
Bret, why wouldn't it be you? | 0:09:28 | 0:09:29 | |
It's... It's his turn, and I'll back him. I'm his right hand. | 0:09:29 | 0:09:32 | |
But don't you think you have an expertise | 0:09:32 | 0:09:33 | |
that Goldberg wouldn't have? | 0:09:33 | 0:09:35 | |
We work as a team, Rocksolid. | 0:09:35 | 0:09:37 | |
-You don't think it matters? -No. | 0:09:37 | 0:09:39 | |
If you hadn't been a Project Manager, | 0:09:39 | 0:09:41 | |
then you kind of should step up. | 0:09:41 | 0:09:43 | |
The last thing I'm going to do is put my tail between my legs | 0:09:43 | 0:09:46 | |
and back up a little bit and let Bret jump in. | 0:09:46 | 0:09:49 | |
The winning Project Manager | 0:09:49 | 0:09:50 | |
gets 20,000 for his or her charity. | 0:09:50 | 0:09:54 | |
The loser, you know what happens. | 0:09:54 | 0:09:56 | |
Good luck. | 0:09:56 | 0:09:58 | |
I believe that if a person is comfortable | 0:10:03 | 0:10:05 | |
in the clothes that they wear, | 0:10:05 | 0:10:07 | |
you go from there and you make it bigger. | 0:10:07 | 0:10:10 | |
This week's task is transforming a country artist | 0:10:10 | 0:10:14 | |
from unknown to well-known. | 0:10:14 | 0:10:17 | |
I am an aspiring singer myself, | 0:10:17 | 0:10:19 | |
and I'll be able to watch Cyndi Lauper, | 0:10:19 | 0:10:22 | |
one of my idols, work on this person. | 0:10:22 | 0:10:24 | |
You're the perfect Project Manager for this, | 0:10:24 | 0:10:27 | |
but just be aware that both of... | 0:10:27 | 0:10:28 | |
No. Both of you are singers. Absolutely. | 0:10:28 | 0:10:31 | |
You think I don't know that? | 0:10:31 | 0:10:32 | |
-Wait, wait, wait. Let her finish her thought. -All right. | 0:10:32 | 0:10:34 | |
I'm just saying to think outside the box | 0:10:34 | 0:10:37 | |
and use us in ways that you may not necessarily... | 0:10:37 | 0:10:40 | |
I know we haven't known each other very long. | 0:10:40 | 0:10:41 | |
Do you think that I stepped on you when I was... | 0:10:41 | 0:10:43 | |
when I was the manager? | 0:10:43 | 0:10:45 | |
I let everybody do what they wanted. | 0:10:45 | 0:10:46 | |
Cyndi, I'm just... You're not even letting me finish my thought. | 0:10:46 | 0:10:49 | |
-All right. Go ahead. -But it's OK. | 0:10:49 | 0:10:51 | |
I like Holly. | 0:10:51 | 0:10:53 | |
She gets...you know, like this. | 0:10:53 | 0:10:56 | |
And I think when you have long, long hours, | 0:10:56 | 0:10:58 | |
you start to edge up on each other. | 0:10:58 | 0:11:00 | |
I want to do the best job for you, | 0:11:00 | 0:11:02 | |
and all I'm doing is expressing to you | 0:11:02 | 0:11:04 | |
how you might be able to get better... | 0:11:04 | 0:11:05 | |
-OK. -..performance out of us, | 0:11:05 | 0:11:07 | |
and you're just, like, blocking me. | 0:11:07 | 0:11:08 | |
I'm not understanding where that's coming from. | 0:11:08 | 0:11:10 | |
All right. I'm not blocking you. | 0:11:10 | 0:11:11 | |
'After what happened last boardroom,' | 0:11:11 | 0:11:13 | |
this task was starting with a not-so-cohesive group. | 0:11:13 | 0:11:17 | |
Let's put it that way. | 0:11:17 | 0:11:18 | |
Cyndi's bedside manner needs help. | 0:11:30 | 0:11:32 | |
She just blew off anything we had to say, | 0:11:32 | 0:11:34 | |
and I mean anything. | 0:11:34 | 0:11:35 | |
Namely, sweetheart, you want a beauty shot if it's a she. | 0:11:35 | 0:11:39 | |
If it's a he, he should look sexy and cute. | 0:11:39 | 0:11:42 | |
Lady Gaga... I don't think she's concerned about looking beautiful. | 0:11:42 | 0:11:45 | |
Actually, Lady Gaga is very concerned about looking beautiful. | 0:11:45 | 0:11:48 | |
I've worked with her. | 0:11:48 | 0:11:50 | |
-So there. -No, but I have. | 0:11:50 | 0:11:52 | |
It's all "So there" This morning. So, fine. Whatever. I know nothing. | 0:11:52 | 0:11:55 | |
That's not right, sweetie, | 0:11:55 | 0:11:57 | |
but sometimes you think you know something. | 0:11:57 | 0:11:59 | |
The reaction that I got when I tried to say anything | 0:11:59 | 0:12:02 | |
was, like, this... "Zip it." | 0:12:02 | 0:12:04 | |
And for one of my childhood idols to be coming at me that way | 0:12:04 | 0:12:08 | |
just totally changes my opinion about her. | 0:12:08 | 0:12:11 | |
How you doing? | 0:12:12 | 0:12:13 | |
-Hi, guys. Mike Dungan. -Curtis Stone. | 0:12:13 | 0:12:15 | |
-Pleasure to meet you, man. -Mike, how are you doing, man? Bret. | 0:12:15 | 0:12:17 | |
-Nice to see you. -How you doing, sir? Bill Goldberg. | 0:12:17 | 0:12:19 | |
What are you looking for in their press Kit? | 0:12:19 | 0:12:22 | |
I'm always looking for some point of differentiation. | 0:12:22 | 0:12:24 | |
-OK. -Unless you can differentiate yourself at key points, | 0:12:24 | 0:12:28 | |
then there's really no point. | 0:12:28 | 0:12:30 | |
Absolutely, and that was the first thing I said to these guys. | 0:12:30 | 0:12:32 | |
Don't start thinking of tractors and hay bales, | 0:12:32 | 0:12:34 | |
because country is such a massive demographic, | 0:12:34 | 0:12:37 | |
and for a band like Poison, we've... | 0:12:37 | 0:12:39 | |
Every Rose crossed over to... | 0:12:39 | 0:12:41 | |
I mean, it was one of our hits, both rock and country. | 0:12:41 | 0:12:43 | |
Right. | 0:12:43 | 0:12:44 | |
In the real world, on this task, | 0:12:44 | 0:12:46 | |
I probably would have been Project Manager, | 0:12:46 | 0:12:47 | |
but, honestly, we decided that | 0:12:47 | 0:12:49 | |
Bill needs to have his chance to win for his charity, | 0:12:49 | 0:12:51 | |
and we're going to fight to the end. | 0:12:51 | 0:12:52 | |
Would you guys like to meet the artist? | 0:12:52 | 0:12:53 | |
-Absolutely. -I'll be right back. | 0:12:53 | 0:12:55 | |
It's cool to watch Bret do his thing. | 0:12:55 | 0:12:57 | |
It makes me feel a little useless sometimes, | 0:12:57 | 0:12:59 | |
because you have to defer to the experts. | 0:12:59 | 0:13:03 | |
-What's up? -This is Luke Bryan. | 0:13:03 | 0:13:04 | |
Of course. How you doing, Bret? Good to see you, man. | 0:13:04 | 0:13:06 | |
Good to see you. | 0:13:06 | 0:13:07 | |
How are you? It's very nice to meet you. | 0:13:07 | 0:13:10 | |
Nice to meet you. Yeah, yeah. | 0:13:10 | 0:13:11 | |
'It was my image that we would sit down with two really young kids' | 0:13:11 | 0:13:15 | |
that were just trying to get into the music industry... | 0:13:15 | 0:13:17 | |
-Let's get you some chairs. -'But that wasn't the case. | 0:13:17 | 0:13:18 | |
'These guys have already dealt with a certain level of fame.' | 0:13:18 | 0:13:22 | |
So, that's always going to be tough, | 0:13:22 | 0:13:24 | |
because you're not dealing with an 18-year-old kid | 0:13:24 | 0:13:26 | |
who's like, "Give me an image. I'm up for it." | 0:13:26 | 0:13:29 | |
So, what's your long-term goals, then, mate? | 0:13:29 | 0:13:31 | |
"Mate." Does that mean a woman? | 0:13:31 | 0:13:34 | |
Oh, you know, my long-term is to be able | 0:13:34 | 0:13:37 | |
to do this a long time | 0:13:37 | 0:13:39 | |
and then preserve the enjoyment of performing. | 0:13:39 | 0:13:41 | |
They were real intense, real businesslike. | 0:13:41 | 0:13:45 | |
They had a lot of questions that were great. | 0:13:45 | 0:13:46 | |
What's your biggest strength, then, Emily? | 0:13:46 | 0:13:48 | |
-My live shows. -Mm-hmm. | 0:13:48 | 0:13:50 | |
Making the record and then doing a live show is so different. | 0:13:50 | 0:13:52 | |
I would be fine working with the men. | 0:13:52 | 0:13:55 | |
I think that it would be kind of funny going shopping with them | 0:13:55 | 0:13:58 | |
or whatever they're planning on doing with my look and my hair, | 0:13:58 | 0:14:01 | |
'but I'm going to really kind of shoot and pray' | 0:14:01 | 0:14:03 | |
that I get on the girls' team. | 0:14:03 | 0:14:05 | |
Five minutes until our person's available. | 0:14:05 | 0:14:08 | |
It's OK for us to ask them questions, right, Cyndi? | 0:14:08 | 0:14:11 | |
Yeah, just don't step over me. | 0:14:11 | 0:14:13 | |
-Let me introduce myself and introduce you. -No. | 0:14:13 | 0:14:16 | |
Just allow us to ask the questions we want to ask. | 0:14:16 | 0:14:18 | |
You don't step on us, either, cos you can do that, too. | 0:14:18 | 0:14:22 | |
Right. I'm not stepping on you, Holly. | 0:14:22 | 0:14:24 | |
-I'm just saying... -You said don't step on us. | 0:14:24 | 0:14:26 | |
-OK, OK, OK, OK, OK. No, no, no, no. -I'm just saying. | 0:14:26 | 0:14:28 | |
Let me just talk to the guy, though. | 0:14:28 | 0:14:30 | |
We all looked at each other like, | 0:14:30 | 0:14:31 | |
-"Oh, -BLEEP -she is really trying to tell us | 0:14:31 | 0:14:34 | |
"we're not allowed to ask any questions in this task." | 0:14:34 | 0:14:36 | |
Hi! | 0:14:38 | 0:14:39 | |
-Hello, ladies. -Have a seat here. | 0:14:39 | 0:14:41 | |
Yeah, let me clear up some stuff, cos I really want to... | 0:14:41 | 0:14:44 | |
I have some questions for you about these kids. | 0:14:44 | 0:14:48 | |
I have music. | 0:14:48 | 0:14:50 | |
That's wonderful. Can I... Let me listen. | 0:14:50 | 0:14:53 | |
Did Emily West write these songs, or is this... | 0:14:53 | 0:14:56 | |
Emily West wrote two of the three of them. | 0:14:56 | 0:15:00 | |
# So your conscience finally hit you | 0:15:00 | 0:15:04 | |
# And you're feeling guilty | 0:15:04 | 0:15:10 | |
# And you're wishing I was there... # | 0:15:10 | 0:15:13 | |
Emily has a very big personality, | 0:15:13 | 0:15:16 | |
and she's very funny, very creative, | 0:15:16 | 0:15:18 | |
very bright, and hard to put into a box. | 0:15:18 | 0:15:22 | |
Well, I don't think you should change people. | 0:15:22 | 0:15:24 | |
I think that's what's wrong with music today. | 0:15:24 | 0:15:26 | |
Well, I have no intention of changing her. | 0:15:26 | 0:15:28 | |
I just don't know if I should focus on that. | 0:15:28 | 0:15:30 | |
# Rain makes corn | 0:15:30 | 0:15:32 | |
# Corn makes whisky | 0:15:32 | 0:15:35 | |
# Whisky makes my baby | 0:15:35 | 0:15:37 | |
# Feel a little frisky... # | 0:15:37 | 0:15:40 | |
I signed Luke Bryan after seeing him live on stage. | 0:15:40 | 0:15:44 | |
It was just the kind of personality where, | 0:15:44 | 0:15:46 | |
the minute you see the guy walk in the room, | 0:15:46 | 0:15:47 | |
you want to know who he is and what he does. | 0:15:47 | 0:15:49 | |
That was clever, you know, about the rain. | 0:15:49 | 0:15:52 | |
He's a Southern, rural guy. | 0:15:52 | 0:15:53 | |
-Yeah, rural. -Mm-hmm. | 0:15:53 | 0:15:54 | |
Well, would you guys... would you guys like to meet the artists? | 0:15:54 | 0:15:56 | |
-Please. -Let me get them, OK? | 0:15:56 | 0:15:57 | |
I'll be right back. | 0:15:57 | 0:15:59 | |
Hello, there! How are you? | 0:15:59 | 0:16:01 | |
Emily walked straight through that door, and... | 0:16:01 | 0:16:04 | |
She was so excited to meet Cyndi Lauper. | 0:16:04 | 0:16:05 | |
It was really, really cute... | 0:16:05 | 0:16:07 | |
It's so nice to meet you. | 0:16:07 | 0:16:09 | |
I've been listening to you all morning. | 0:16:09 | 0:16:11 | |
Hey, I'm Luke. | 0:16:12 | 0:16:13 | |
..which I think touched Cyndi, | 0:16:13 | 0:16:15 | |
and they were both super personable | 0:16:15 | 0:16:18 | |
and passionate about their craft. | 0:16:18 | 0:16:21 | |
Who's your favourite country artist? | 0:16:21 | 0:16:22 | |
I grew up just a huge Alan Jackson and George Strait... | 0:16:22 | 0:16:26 | |
and I also liked Alabama. | 0:16:26 | 0:16:28 | |
I heard Patsy Cline, and I grew up listening to Loretta Lynn | 0:16:28 | 0:16:31 | |
and, you know, all kinds of music, | 0:16:31 | 0:16:32 | |
but lyrics and real-life stories is what I write from. | 0:16:32 | 0:16:36 | |
I think both of you are great. | 0:16:36 | 0:16:38 | |
Um, I'd just like to have a little time with them now | 0:16:38 | 0:16:41 | |
and just discuss who we think we can help the most. | 0:16:41 | 0:16:46 | |
After we met with our two artists, | 0:16:46 | 0:16:48 | |
we were going to decide which one we wanted | 0:16:48 | 0:16:50 | |
and then negotiate with the guys | 0:16:50 | 0:16:51 | |
to get the artist that we preferred. | 0:16:51 | 0:16:53 | |
OK. I like them both. | 0:16:53 | 0:16:56 | |
I think I can help the girl more than the guy. | 0:16:56 | 0:17:00 | |
-Yeah. -My vision for him is hard because of his look. | 0:17:00 | 0:17:04 | |
Well, he's kind of a clean slate. I mean, you can dress him up. | 0:17:04 | 0:17:07 | |
You can't change the length of his hair. | 0:17:07 | 0:17:09 | |
You can't change the shape of his head. | 0:17:09 | 0:17:12 | |
I think they're both tremendous artists. | 0:17:12 | 0:17:14 | |
They're great artists. I'm not talking about that. | 0:17:14 | 0:17:16 | |
I'm talking about the visual. | 0:17:16 | 0:17:18 | |
'He was a shape I didn't know if I could wrangle.' | 0:17:18 | 0:17:21 | |
His haircut was very square-shaped and very short, | 0:17:21 | 0:17:25 | |
so I didn't know what the heck you could do. | 0:17:25 | 0:17:28 | |
'So, I thought, "Let the guys deal with him."' | 0:17:28 | 0:17:31 | |
I like the girl because I was looking at her face, | 0:17:31 | 0:17:35 | |
I was looking how she could be photographed, | 0:17:35 | 0:17:37 | |
her songs are awesome, and I think I can help her. | 0:17:37 | 0:17:41 | |
I don't know if you guys feel that way, | 0:17:41 | 0:17:43 | |
but I feel very strongly I'd like to help her. | 0:17:43 | 0:17:46 | |
Emily and Luke are tremendous people, | 0:17:46 | 0:17:48 | |
but we knew, I think, from the moment | 0:17:48 | 0:17:50 | |
that we were able to listen to Emily's voice and her music | 0:17:50 | 0:17:55 | |
that she was probably the artist for us. | 0:17:55 | 0:17:58 | |
I'm sorry. She was probably the artist for Cyndi. | 0:17:58 | 0:18:00 | |
'We didn't really have a say.' | 0:18:00 | 0:18:02 | |
You know what our next step is? It doesn't matter who we want. | 0:18:02 | 0:18:05 | |
We got to negotiate it with the guys. | 0:18:05 | 0:18:07 | |
We don't have her yet. | 0:18:07 | 0:18:08 | |
Yeah. | 0:18:08 | 0:18:09 | |
OK. So, here's the deal. | 0:18:13 | 0:18:15 | |
In 10 minutes, the guys are going to come in. | 0:18:15 | 0:18:16 | |
Yeah. | 0:18:16 | 0:18:17 | |
We're all clear that we like... | 0:18:17 | 0:18:20 | |
I like her. I think she's great. | 0:18:20 | 0:18:22 | |
This is the way the guys might be approaching this. | 0:18:22 | 0:18:24 | |
Bret might be going, "I can help both of them. | 0:18:24 | 0:18:26 | |
"Who can Cyndi help the least?" | 0:18:26 | 0:18:28 | |
Mm-hmm. Do you see what we're saying? | 0:18:28 | 0:18:30 | |
So you need to be smart when you're negotiating. | 0:18:30 | 0:18:32 | |
We got to negotiate like lawyers? | 0:18:32 | 0:18:34 | |
-Mm-hmm. -BLEEP. | 0:18:34 | 0:18:36 | |
Voice quality is just, mm! | 0:18:36 | 0:18:39 | |
It's what she wrote about, too, that's awesome. | 0:18:39 | 0:18:41 | |
Right. We didn't really get a chance to hear what he wrote. | 0:18:41 | 0:18:44 | |
-No, I listened. -Well, we didn't, so... -OK. | 0:18:44 | 0:18:46 | |
My point is, is that... Since we have 10 minutes, | 0:18:46 | 0:18:49 | |
it would be good just to listen to the music. | 0:18:49 | 0:18:52 | |
But wait, Cyn. So, when the guys come in... | 0:18:52 | 0:18:54 | |
We'll listen to the music, and then when the guys come in, we... | 0:18:54 | 0:18:57 | |
All right. | 0:18:57 | 0:18:58 | |
You know, you do this, cos I'm just trying to help. | 0:18:58 | 0:19:01 | |
You want to listen to the song, we should listen to the music. | 0:19:01 | 0:19:02 | |
Cyndi, I was just getting a game plan. | 0:19:02 | 0:19:04 | |
We're trying to get procedural stuff in this, OK? | 0:19:04 | 0:19:07 | |
Well, don't you... OK. | 0:19:07 | 0:19:09 | |
If they want the girl, too, | 0:19:09 | 0:19:10 | |
we just have to start thinking about how we want to strategise. | 0:19:10 | 0:19:12 | |
Well, I'm going to tell them, if you don't mind, | 0:19:12 | 0:19:15 | |
that I think that Bret could help the guy much more. | 0:19:15 | 0:19:18 | |
Do you want us to sit back and let you do it? | 0:19:18 | 0:19:21 | |
We're not... I don't think we should say... | 0:19:21 | 0:19:23 | |
I think we should let Cyndi do all the talking. | 0:19:23 | 0:19:24 | |
When I just tried to do some procedural things, you were like... | 0:19:24 | 0:19:27 | |
Can we... Wait. Come back. | 0:19:27 | 0:19:29 | |
Can we end this now so we can move on? | 0:19:29 | 0:19:32 | |
Cyndi, in the middle of someone giving an opinion, | 0:19:32 | 0:19:34 | |
you react, like, before we have a chance to say anything. | 0:19:34 | 0:19:37 | |
OK. And that was rude of me, and I'm sorry. | 0:19:37 | 0:19:41 | |
-It's not so much rude... -Do you accept that? | 0:19:41 | 0:19:43 | |
I don't want an apology. | 0:19:43 | 0:19:44 | |
I want to change the way we're doing it. | 0:19:44 | 0:19:45 | |
Well, that's what I'm trying to do. | 0:19:45 | 0:19:48 | |
OK, guys, we got 20 minutes to make a decision | 0:19:49 | 0:19:51 | |
on which artist we want. | 0:19:51 | 0:19:53 | |
You should listen to this with me, Bill. | 0:19:53 | 0:19:54 | |
This is what you want answered. | 0:19:54 | 0:19:56 | |
-Anastasia. -'Yes?' | 0:19:56 | 0:19:57 | |
I'm coming in as a manager. | 0:19:57 | 0:19:59 | |
I've got Emily West and Luke Bryan are my two choices. | 0:19:59 | 0:20:02 | |
OK. So, here I go. | 0:20:05 | 0:20:06 | |
Which way would you lean for me to work with somebody? | 0:20:06 | 0:20:09 | |
In typical Bret style, he ended up speaking to, you know, | 0:20:09 | 0:20:12 | |
some really big people in the music business, | 0:20:12 | 0:20:15 | |
cos, of course, Bret knows them all. | 0:20:15 | 0:20:17 | |
Steve, a couple questions about your artists. | 0:20:17 | 0:20:18 | |
We have Luke today, and we have Emily. | 0:20:18 | 0:20:21 | |
Got it. Emily...give me a little background on her. | 0:20:28 | 0:20:30 | |
This is the CEO Of such and such, | 0:20:30 | 0:20:32 | |
and this is the boss of blah, blah, blah. | 0:20:32 | 0:20:34 | |
And, you know, he was getting great advice, | 0:20:34 | 0:20:36 | |
but we ran out of time. | 0:20:36 | 0:20:37 | |
Come on, Bret. We got to cut him off, man. I'm sorry. | 0:20:37 | 0:20:40 | |
Walk. | 0:20:40 | 0:20:41 | |
No, we've got to make a decision, Bret. | 0:20:41 | 0:20:43 | |
'He's a good guy, I can tell you.' | 0:20:43 | 0:20:46 | |
Thanks again, Steven. I'll call you a little bit later. | 0:20:46 | 0:20:49 | |
-Have a safe flight. -'Take care, guys.' | 0:20:49 | 0:20:50 | |
OK. What did you get from that, | 0:20:50 | 0:20:53 | |
in a one-sentence deal? | 0:20:53 | 0:20:54 | |
I don't have one sentence. Here's my question. | 0:20:54 | 0:20:57 | |
Luke or Emily? | 0:20:57 | 0:20:58 | |
-What's that? -Luke or Emily? | 0:20:58 | 0:21:00 | |
Don't know. | 0:21:00 | 0:21:01 | |
You got to make a decision. Just give us an answer. | 0:21:01 | 0:21:03 | |
I don't have a preference. | 0:21:03 | 0:21:04 | |
Then, in the end, he was like, "Doesn't matter which one." | 0:21:04 | 0:21:07 | |
Luke or Emily? I'm like, "I know it's Luke or Emily. | 0:21:07 | 0:21:09 | |
"Which one?!" | 0:21:09 | 0:21:11 | |
Knock, knock. | 0:21:13 | 0:21:14 | |
So, who do you want? | 0:21:15 | 0:21:18 | |
Would you guys like something to drink? | 0:21:18 | 0:21:19 | |
-Nope. -No. | 0:21:19 | 0:21:20 | |
Who do you want, ladies? | 0:21:20 | 0:21:23 | |
You know, I don't like | 0:21:23 | 0:21:24 | |
negotiating with people that I can't beat up. | 0:21:24 | 0:21:26 | |
-You guys go first. -No, you go first. | 0:21:26 | 0:21:28 | |
-Ladies first. -No, no. Let's hear what you have to say. | 0:21:28 | 0:21:32 | |
Our goal within the negotiations is to let the boys talk first. | 0:21:35 | 0:21:39 | |
Did that work? No. | 0:21:39 | 0:21:41 | |
They're all staring at us like this. | 0:21:41 | 0:21:43 | |
What did you guys think of the music? | 0:21:43 | 0:21:45 | |
-We're not here to make friends. -Yeah. I mean, honestly, guys, | 0:21:45 | 0:21:47 | |
we're not here to give you opinions. | 0:21:47 | 0:21:48 | |
We're not going to give you any answers. You're the enemy. | 0:21:48 | 0:21:50 | |
OK. I like the girl. | 0:21:50 | 0:21:52 | |
-You want to take the girl? -He's more of a clean slate. | 0:21:52 | 0:21:55 | |
Here's the thing. Both are super talented. | 0:21:55 | 0:21:57 | |
Whether you took the guy or the girl, | 0:21:57 | 0:21:59 | |
whatever we got, we're going to win with. | 0:21:59 | 0:22:02 | |
They're women, for God's sakes. Let them have what they want. | 0:22:02 | 0:22:05 | |
-We'll take the guy. -Don't put any guyliner on him, Bret. | 0:22:05 | 0:22:08 | |
Don't worry. | 0:22:08 | 0:22:09 | |
Hey, that guyliner will bring him superpowers beyond belief. | 0:22:09 | 0:22:13 | |
-Just know that. -I haven't seen any yet. | 0:22:13 | 0:22:15 | |
Oh! Maria! | 0:22:15 | 0:22:17 | |
Maria, the best interviews are when you direct the interview. | 0:22:20 | 0:22:23 | |
Do bullet points... Yeah, me too. | 0:22:23 | 0:22:25 | |
That's how I became famous. | 0:22:25 | 0:22:27 | |
It's interesting answers, quick, funny answers, | 0:22:27 | 0:22:32 | |
like if they say, "What's your favourite colour?" | 0:22:32 | 0:22:33 | |
When I did Playboy, you know what they used to ask me? | 0:22:33 | 0:22:36 | |
That's a different kind of... Yeah, but go ahead. | 0:22:36 | 0:22:37 | |
I used to get asked, "Are you shaved, or are you hairy?" | 0:22:37 | 0:22:41 | |
I mean, it's just, I've done so many interviews. | 0:22:42 | 0:22:46 | |
Like, I don't like to be told, | 0:22:46 | 0:22:48 | |
"You think you know blah, blah, blah." | 0:22:48 | 0:22:50 | |
It makes me... It hurts my feelings. | 0:22:50 | 0:22:52 | |
-It really hurts. -Oh, you're talking about something else. | 0:22:52 | 0:22:55 | |
You hurt my feelings so much in the car, | 0:22:55 | 0:22:56 | |
because you're like, "You think you know." | 0:22:56 | 0:22:58 | |
Do you have any idea what I've been through? | 0:22:58 | 0:23:01 | |
-OK, honey. -You act like I know nothing. | 0:23:01 | 0:23:02 | |
-No. You do know a lot. -And I hate that. I hate that. | 0:23:02 | 0:23:05 | |
-But you walk around like you know everything. -No, I don't. | 0:23:05 | 0:23:08 | |
I watched you, | 0:23:08 | 0:23:09 | |
and I listened to you when I was growing up, | 0:23:09 | 0:23:12 | |
and you hurt my feelings in the car. | 0:23:12 | 0:23:14 | |
"You think you know." | 0:23:14 | 0:23:15 | |
Cyndi just has no clue whatsoever what anybody's done, | 0:23:15 | 0:23:20 | |
'and, finally, at a certain point, I decided enough was enough.' | 0:23:20 | 0:23:23 | |
You're right, and I'm sorry. Will you accept that? | 0:23:23 | 0:23:27 | |
-Of course I will. -Really? | 0:23:27 | 0:23:28 | |
Look at me. You, me. Will you? | 0:23:28 | 0:23:30 | |
Of course I will. | 0:23:30 | 0:23:31 | |
I'm taking it in, and I'm sorry, OK? | 0:23:31 | 0:23:35 | |
-Mm-hmm. -OK. | 0:23:35 | 0:23:38 | |
She needs that validation | 0:23:38 | 0:23:39 | |
all the time, because she's just a kid. | 0:23:39 | 0:23:42 | |
Like, were you there in the room | 0:23:42 | 0:23:44 | |
when she talked about media training | 0:23:44 | 0:23:47 | |
and she said, "Are you shaved or not?" | 0:23:47 | 0:23:51 | |
And I was thinking to myself, | 0:23:51 | 0:23:53 | |
"That's what we're going to tell Emily West?" | 0:23:53 | 0:23:57 | |
-I'm so happy! -Come on over. | 0:23:59 | 0:24:02 | |
What I wanted to do was something that had yin-yang. | 0:24:02 | 0:24:05 | |
Like, you know how lace and leather looks, | 0:24:05 | 0:24:07 | |
where it could be glamorous and a little roughneck | 0:24:07 | 0:24:11 | |
-but just enough? -Totally. | 0:24:11 | 0:24:14 | |
She and... Both of them took... We all took media training. | 0:24:14 | 0:24:16 | |
Obviously, I failed, but she's really good. | 0:24:16 | 0:24:20 | |
Yeah, you and me. I know. | 0:24:20 | 0:24:21 | |
And they're really good at it. | 0:24:21 | 0:24:23 | |
I told Holly to write up your bio, so you need to tell us stuff. | 0:24:23 | 0:24:27 | |
Cyndi's creative juices were flowing, | 0:24:27 | 0:24:29 | |
but her creative juices were just splattered all over the place. | 0:24:29 | 0:24:32 | |
But you haven't done that yet, have you? | 0:24:32 | 0:24:34 | |
-Done what? -Leather and lace. | 0:24:34 | 0:24:36 | |
I've... No, I have not. | 0:24:36 | 0:24:38 | |
I knew if Cyndi didn't let go of this controlling attitude, | 0:24:38 | 0:24:40 | |
there was going to be a disaster at the end of the day. | 0:24:40 | 0:24:43 | |
But I think if we're going to do that hairstyle, | 0:24:43 | 0:24:44 | |
we should do really dark eyes like that | 0:24:44 | 0:24:46 | |
but just kind of shade it out a little bit. | 0:24:46 | 0:24:47 | |
Yeah, softer. Not so hard. | 0:24:47 | 0:24:50 | |
Yeah. I love you. | 0:24:50 | 0:24:52 | |
(AS CYNDI) "Yeah, softer. Not so hard." | 0:24:52 | 0:24:55 | |
All right, all right. So... | 0:24:55 | 0:24:57 | |
Listen, what we don't want to fix | 0:25:03 | 0:25:05 | |
is what we love about you, which is the music's great | 0:25:05 | 0:25:08 | |
and you're a humble, likable guy. | 0:25:08 | 0:25:09 | |
Thanks. Thank you. | 0:25:09 | 0:25:10 | |
So, we're being judged on three things. | 0:25:10 | 0:25:11 | |
The first one is the promotional materials | 0:25:11 | 0:25:13 | |
that we get together to represent our artist, | 0:25:13 | 0:25:16 | |
the makeover, and, also, the overall possibility | 0:25:16 | 0:25:19 | |
of breakout, you know, success of this artist. | 0:25:19 | 0:25:22 | |
You're a good-looking guy, you're a humble guy, | 0:25:22 | 0:25:24 | |
you're a confident guy, but what we want to do is - | 0:25:24 | 0:25:26 | |
go with me on this - I want to bring out the rock star in you - | 0:25:26 | 0:25:30 | |
go with me - but keep the humble, | 0:25:30 | 0:25:32 | |
down-home country, married... I'm a father, too. | 0:25:32 | 0:25:35 | |
But it's also not great for me to go down a path | 0:25:35 | 0:25:38 | |
where I'm like... that I'm wigging out. | 0:25:38 | 0:25:41 | |
I was in full-blown "Let's get it done" mode. | 0:25:41 | 0:25:44 | |
So, we're going to do four different looks with you. | 0:25:44 | 0:25:46 | |
'I want to elevate his presence a little bit, | 0:25:46 | 0:25:48 | |
'and, definitely, we had to get him some new clothes to do that.' | 0:25:48 | 0:25:52 | |
You know, with boots on, 6'3". | 0:25:53 | 0:25:57 | |
We're a pretty similar size, right? | 0:25:57 | 0:25:58 | |
Yeah. | 0:25:58 | 0:26:00 | |
Step up for me. | 0:26:00 | 0:26:02 | |
See, I'm a little... If you throw my boots on... | 0:26:02 | 0:26:03 | |
-Same shoulders and stuff? -Absolutely. | 0:26:03 | 0:26:06 | |
-So, I'll be able to try on clothes for you. -Yeah. | 0:26:06 | 0:26:09 | |
Perfect thing about this whole challenge | 0:26:09 | 0:26:10 | |
was Luke is nearly an identical size to me. | 0:26:10 | 0:26:14 | |
This is nice. | 0:26:16 | 0:26:17 | |
That's right. You know? | 0:26:23 | 0:26:25 | |
Try this shirt on real quick. It's mine. | 0:26:25 | 0:26:28 | |
Looks good, man. | 0:26:28 | 0:26:30 | |
And the colour works on you. Am I wrong, guys? | 0:26:30 | 0:26:32 | |
What colour are your eyes? | 0:26:32 | 0:26:34 | |
Yes, America, I just asked that. | 0:26:34 | 0:26:37 | |
I'm just putting this on. It's a simple chain. | 0:26:38 | 0:26:41 | |
-What are you thinking? -You feel comfortable wearing a wife-beater | 0:26:44 | 0:26:47 | |
and something like that and a nice watch, | 0:26:47 | 0:26:49 | |
as opposed to, you know, | 0:26:49 | 0:26:50 | |
sitting there with that shirt unbuttoned? | 0:26:50 | 0:26:53 | |
I can't believe I'm asking another guy this. | 0:26:53 | 0:26:55 | |
No. This is part of creating the image, man. | 0:26:55 | 0:26:57 | |
Goldberg... He is, like, the man's man's macho man. | 0:26:57 | 0:27:00 | |
It was a very different side of Goldberg, but I enjoyed it. | 0:27:00 | 0:27:03 | |
It was very humorous. | 0:27:03 | 0:27:04 | |
We've got two hours to be back here with all wardrobe. | 0:27:04 | 0:27:07 | |
Let's go. | 0:27:07 | 0:27:08 | |
Good luck out there, boys. | 0:27:08 | 0:27:09 | |
It's my job to keep us all on time. | 0:27:09 | 0:27:11 | |
So, Goldberg and I went shopping. | 0:27:11 | 0:27:13 | |
We took our shopping consultant, | 0:27:13 | 0:27:15 | |
and it was pretty funny for me, to be perfectly honest. | 0:27:15 | 0:27:17 | |
I've got one of the toughest guys | 0:27:17 | 0:27:19 | |
in the world sitting on my right. | 0:27:19 | 0:27:20 | |
I've got one of the gayest guys in the world sitting behind me. | 0:27:20 | 0:27:23 | |
For him, I would stay with, like, earth tones. | 0:27:23 | 0:27:26 | |
It was just this strange dynamic. | 0:27:26 | 0:27:29 | |
This could be an option. | 0:27:30 | 0:27:32 | |
You know what I mean? | 0:27:32 | 0:27:33 | |
-She hasn't been seen like that. -Yeah. | 0:27:33 | 0:27:36 | |
Our wardrobe stylist came in, and then Cyndi went on the internet | 0:27:36 | 0:27:38 | |
and sort of found this image of leather and lace, | 0:27:38 | 0:27:41 | |
a sort of soft and hard look for her. | 0:27:41 | 0:27:43 | |
I really think... | 0:27:52 | 0:27:54 | |
With the make-up, I want to talk to the make-up artist. | 0:27:54 | 0:27:56 | |
But you could put it... You've talked so... | 0:27:56 | 0:27:57 | |
-Well, do we want to wait for the make-up artist to come? -No! | 0:27:57 | 0:27:59 | |
Cyndi wanted to do the hair, make-up. | 0:27:59 | 0:28:01 | |
Cyndi wanted to be with the clothes. | 0:28:01 | 0:28:03 | |
Cyndi did not want to task out anything. | 0:28:03 | 0:28:06 | |
To tangibly see the clothes, | 0:28:06 | 0:28:08 | |
I just think, Cyn, you just need to... | 0:28:08 | 0:28:09 | |
-That's up to you, though. -Do me a favour, though. | 0:28:09 | 0:28:11 | |
Look up the '60s, like, movie stars with the darker eyes, | 0:28:11 | 0:28:16 | |
but she can't have it, like... Listen. | 0:28:16 | 0:28:17 | |
But that's softer. | 0:28:17 | 0:28:19 | |
-Mm-hmm. -That's a look she's done. | 0:28:19 | 0:28:22 | |
But, Boo, come here. She's done that look. | 0:28:22 | 0:28:24 | |
What about Brigitte Bardot? | 0:28:24 | 0:28:25 | |
She's never done Brigitte Bardot. | 0:28:25 | 0:28:28 | |
OK. | 0:28:28 | 0:28:29 | |
We'll do whatever you want. You're the Project Manager. | 0:28:32 | 0:28:34 | |
When you do the curly look, | 0:28:34 | 0:28:36 | |
you should do the Grace Kelly look. | 0:28:36 | 0:28:38 | |
I'm not saying do Grace Kelly. I was just trying to get... | 0:28:38 | 0:28:41 | |
-No, no, but that would match. -All right. | 0:28:41 | 0:28:42 | |
I did cut you off. Go ahead. | 0:28:42 | 0:28:43 | |
No, that's OK. I'm good. | 0:28:43 | 0:28:45 | |
I think we need clothes. | 0:28:45 | 0:28:46 | |
Would you do me a favour, though? | 0:28:46 | 0:28:47 | |
-Would you look up Brigitte Bardot? -Yes. | 0:28:47 | 0:28:50 | |
All right. OK. | 0:28:50 | 0:28:51 | |
So, I left Maria to watch over the hair and make-up, | 0:28:51 | 0:28:54 | |
and I left the picture. | 0:28:54 | 0:28:56 | |
Ready? OK. Bye, you guys. | 0:28:56 | 0:28:57 | |
Call me if you need - if you think of anything. | 0:28:57 | 0:28:58 | |
-Bye! -All right. | 0:28:58 | 0:29:01 | |
Look, none of us have the iconic status of Cyndi Lauper, | 0:29:01 | 0:29:04 | |
but we have been around the block a little bit collectively, | 0:29:04 | 0:29:07 | |
and I don't feel any respect for that from Cyndi. | 0:29:07 | 0:29:10 | |
Cyndi doesn't think that you or I... | 0:29:10 | 0:29:12 | |
I mean, we should just be called two tur... | 0:29:12 | 0:29:14 | |
two turnips and we just fell off the truck. | 0:29:14 | 0:29:16 | |
Let's move on to getting you ready for this interview, right? | 0:29:18 | 0:29:20 | |
The one thing I would always start every interview out with | 0:29:20 | 0:29:23 | |
is a positive. | 0:29:23 | 0:29:24 | |
The guys were gone, so I wanted to prepare Luke | 0:29:24 | 0:29:26 | |
for the interview with People magazine. | 0:29:26 | 0:29:27 | |
People is such a great opportunity for him. | 0:29:27 | 0:29:29 | |
Never use these words - "I'm tired." | 0:29:29 | 0:29:32 | |
Never, ever say that to anybody, and I'll tell you why. | 0:29:32 | 0:29:35 | |
If I was interviewing you and I'm like, | 0:29:35 | 0:29:37 | |
I just got out of bed to come over here | 0:29:37 | 0:29:39 | |
and interview you, and your opening response is, | 0:29:39 | 0:29:41 | |
"Yeah, I'm pretty burnt out. It was a long flight..." | 0:29:41 | 0:29:43 | |
You just say, "You know what? I'm doing great. | 0:29:43 | 0:29:45 | |
"Thank you for taking YOUR time to do this with me." | 0:29:45 | 0:29:47 | |
-Yeah, I've got it. -It's the truth. "Thank you." | 0:29:47 | 0:29:49 | |
And I can't tell you how many times I've done that. | 0:29:49 | 0:29:51 | |
'Bret and I talked a little bit about some media training,' | 0:29:51 | 0:29:54 | |
and I think Bret gave me some great ideas, | 0:29:54 | 0:29:56 | |
stuff that's worked for him through the years. | 0:29:56 | 0:29:58 | |
Go to shake my hand. You say, "Bret, how you doing?" | 0:29:58 | 0:30:00 | |
-Bret, how you doing? -I don't know. I'm tired. | 0:30:00 | 0:30:02 | |
-Where do we go? -Yeah, there's nowhere. | 0:30:02 | 0:30:04 | |
Now my heart... My heart was pounding to meet you. | 0:30:04 | 0:30:06 | |
They're thinking, "You lucky son of a bitch, and you're tired?" | 0:30:06 | 0:30:09 | |
-Now my interview's about me being drunk and no-one gives a -BLEEP. | 0:30:09 | 0:30:12 | |
How's it going today, Bret? | 0:30:12 | 0:30:14 | |
Today I can openly admit that I'm a little hung over/tired, | 0:30:14 | 0:30:17 | |
cos last night after our big win, we celebrated, and it was awesome. | 0:30:17 | 0:30:20 | |
All right. That was my two cents for the day. | 0:30:20 | 0:30:22 | |
Hey, that's good, though, man. That's good. | 0:30:22 | 0:30:25 | |
Think about what you can say, not what you can't, | 0:30:25 | 0:30:28 | |
because you're thinking about the wrong things. | 0:30:28 | 0:30:30 | |
-Well, it creates fear, and it just... -Right! | 0:30:30 | 0:30:32 | |
And, you know, in the long run, I'm just going to be like this. | 0:30:32 | 0:30:34 | |
Uh-huh. | 0:30:34 | 0:30:35 | |
Cyndi went out to do the wardrobe, | 0:30:35 | 0:30:37 | |
and we stayed back to do the media training | 0:30:37 | 0:30:39 | |
and also to start the bio and hair and make-up. | 0:30:39 | 0:30:43 | |
IF they're like, "Oh, what was your past?" | 0:30:43 | 0:30:45 | |
That's far too broad. | 0:30:45 | 0:30:47 | |
Say, "What would you like to know about it?" | 0:30:47 | 0:30:49 | |
Ooh, let me write that down. | 0:30:49 | 0:30:50 | |
That's a whole lot easier to answer. | 0:30:50 | 0:30:51 | |
Can I have a piece of paper? | 0:30:51 | 0:30:53 | |
-You know how to power-shop? -We're going to power-shop. | 0:30:53 | 0:30:55 | |
Come on. I know how to power-shop. Come on. | 0:30:55 | 0:30:57 | |
We left at 12:30 to go shopping, and we had to be back by 3:30. | 0:30:57 | 0:31:01 | |
I was extremely worried that we weren't going to get it done. | 0:31:01 | 0:31:04 | |
-So, we'll head right upstairs. -Yeah. | 0:31:04 | 0:31:07 | |
Cyndi was going shopping, | 0:31:07 | 0:31:09 | |
and she was heading into big stores. | 0:31:09 | 0:31:11 | |
I was very worried... | 0:31:11 | 0:31:12 | |
Let's go, go, go. | 0:31:12 | 0:31:13 | |
..she was going to keep looking | 0:31:13 | 0:31:14 | |
for that perfect, perfect something | 0:31:14 | 0:31:16 | |
and that we weren't going to come home with anything. | 0:31:16 | 0:31:18 | |
Are you focused with me? | 0:31:18 | 0:31:19 | |
I just kept trying to make it happen, | 0:31:19 | 0:31:21 | |
grabbing the clothes and just going to the register | 0:31:21 | 0:31:23 | |
time after time... Ah! | 0:31:23 | 0:31:26 | |
Time after time to pay for the clothes. | 0:31:26 | 0:31:28 | |
-Thank you so much. -Thank you! | 0:31:28 | 0:31:30 | |
And then I keep going back to her, "Cyndi, we've got to go. | 0:31:30 | 0:31:33 | |
"We have got to go." | 0:31:33 | 0:31:34 | |
-Thank you so much, sweetheart. -Bye! | 0:31:34 | 0:31:37 | |
We'll make your press kit nice. | 0:31:37 | 0:31:38 | |
There will be an 8x10. There will be your CD. | 0:31:38 | 0:31:41 | |
There will be this bio with all your credentials. | 0:31:41 | 0:31:44 | |
Luke and I stayed back, and we're getting into | 0:31:44 | 0:31:47 | |
making this press kit and putting it together, | 0:31:47 | 0:31:48 | |
and this is definitely one of the things we're being judged on. | 0:31:48 | 0:31:51 | |
Here's what I got so far. I think you're going to like this. | 0:31:51 | 0:31:53 | |
"The only music that was ever right for Luke Bryan | 0:31:53 | 0:31:56 | |
"Was country music. | 0:31:56 | 0:31:57 | |
He knew it from birth." You know what I mean? | 0:31:57 | 0:31:59 | |
"Birth" May be... Nah. | 0:31:59 | 0:32:01 | |
"Birth" Sounds a little... That sounds funky to me. | 0:32:01 | 0:32:03 | |
OK. Um... I'll change "Birth." | 0:32:03 | 0:32:06 | |
"He knew it from the first time | 0:32:06 | 0:32:07 | |
he heard Mark Chesnutt's Brother Jukebox." | 0:32:07 | 0:32:10 | |
Nah. Uh... | 0:32:10 | 0:32:12 | |
Hold on. | 0:32:15 | 0:32:16 | |
I don't want to make it sound like Chesnutt | 0:32:16 | 0:32:18 | |
is the biggest influence I have. | 0:32:18 | 0:32:19 | |
No, no. I understand what you mean. | 0:32:19 | 0:32:21 | |
Don't fear me giving you an identity more. | 0:32:21 | 0:32:23 | |
That's kind of what I think you're looking for. | 0:32:23 | 0:32:25 | |
Well, yeah. Let's... | 0:32:25 | 0:32:27 | |
Let me try this. | 0:32:27 | 0:32:28 | |
"In the words of his fans from the Nut House..." | 0:32:28 | 0:32:29 | |
Can I say that? | 0:32:29 | 0:32:30 | |
I wouldn't use... Well, read that back. | 0:32:30 | 0:32:33 | |
There's something a little off in that. | 0:32:33 | 0:32:35 | |
OK. You got it. | 0:32:35 | 0:32:36 | |
What I like about Luke is he knows exactly what he wants, | 0:32:36 | 0:32:39 | |
and what I don't like about Luke is he knows exactly what he wants. | 0:32:39 | 0:32:42 | |
So, I know that this is going to be... | 0:32:42 | 0:32:44 | |
Without a doubt, this is going to be tough. | 0:32:44 | 0:32:46 | |
I put, "He is much more pipe than hype." | 0:32:46 | 0:32:50 | |
The "Pipes" Thing is a little... | 0:32:50 | 0:32:52 | |
Keep going without saying that, | 0:32:52 | 0:32:53 | |
and let's see how that does. | 0:32:53 | 0:32:55 | |
OK. | 0:32:55 | 0:32:56 | |
I think she should wear | 0:33:02 | 0:33:04 | |
the light leather jacket with no sleeves. | 0:33:04 | 0:33:06 | |
After all of our shopping, we went back to our photo studio | 0:33:06 | 0:33:09 | |
cos Cyndi wanted to be part of the make-up process. | 0:33:09 | 0:33:12 | |
They're going to do her all up for this interview. | 0:33:12 | 0:33:14 | |
Oh, God. She's going to look like Frankenstein. | 0:33:14 | 0:33:16 | |
Maybe not. | 0:33:16 | 0:33:18 | |
No, they said they're doing mellow make-up, | 0:33:18 | 0:33:20 | |
-like what you said. -Yeah? -That's what they said. | 0:33:20 | 0:33:24 | |
-Hi. -Hi, Sharon! | 0:33:24 | 0:33:26 | |
Sharon's been sick, and she missed my entire task. | 0:33:28 | 0:33:30 | |
That's Emily West. Sharon Osbourne. | 0:33:30 | 0:33:33 | |
Nice to meet you. | 0:33:33 | 0:33:34 | |
-Hi. -Hug. | 0:33:34 | 0:33:35 | |
I'm so sorry you're so sick. | 0:33:35 | 0:33:37 | |
Hello, there! Are you all right? | 0:33:37 | 0:33:39 | |
-I'm good. -Oh. | 0:33:39 | 0:33:41 | |
-We were given two artists to try to make over... -Uh-huh. | 0:33:41 | 0:33:45 | |
And do press kits on and do some media training. | 0:33:45 | 0:33:47 | |
It's just my luck that I wasn't here | 0:33:47 | 0:33:51 | |
and that I couldn't say, "All right, this one's mine. | 0:33:51 | 0:33:53 | |
"I'll take this." | 0:33:53 | 0:33:55 | |
Well, Cyndi went nuts for her. | 0:33:55 | 0:33:57 | |
She just heard her voice and heard her music. | 0:33:57 | 0:34:00 | |
-You don't know all this stuff, huh? -She did? | 0:34:00 | 0:34:01 | |
I mean, to come up with a bio | 0:34:01 | 0:34:03 | |
and to come up with an imagery for an artist, | 0:34:03 | 0:34:07 | |
I can do it in my sleep. | 0:34:07 | 0:34:08 | |
Sharon's back. | 0:34:10 | 0:34:12 | |
And then in came Hurricane Cyndi, | 0:34:12 | 0:34:14 | |
and she started trying to re-micromanage everything. | 0:34:14 | 0:34:17 | |
Did you follow the map, or you just decided to do it? | 0:34:17 | 0:34:20 | |
No, I followed the map of just more of the line around the eye. | 0:34:20 | 0:34:24 | |
The make-up, honestly - they gave her the apple cheeks. | 0:34:24 | 0:34:27 | |
I was horrified. | 0:34:27 | 0:34:28 | |
And is this the Brigitte Bardot look? | 0:34:28 | 0:34:30 | |
That was the picture with the lining, | 0:34:30 | 0:34:32 | |
cos with the Brigitte Bardot, | 0:34:32 | 0:34:33 | |
it has more of that lining around the eyes. | 0:34:33 | 0:34:36 | |
And it went up. | 0:34:36 | 0:34:37 | |
Maria watched over the hair and make-up. | 0:34:37 | 0:34:39 | |
You know, it would be different if I didn't leave a picture, | 0:34:39 | 0:34:42 | |
but I wanted them to follow the picture, | 0:34:42 | 0:34:43 | |
and we all agreed, "OK, like this picture," | 0:34:44 | 0:34:46 | |
but it wasn't like the picture. | 0:34:46 | 0:34:47 | |
You always wear your rouge this close, right? | 0:34:47 | 0:34:51 | |
Well, when she smiles, that's where it... | 0:34:51 | 0:34:52 | |
-I understand, but I don't want it like that. -OK. OK. | 0:34:52 | 0:34:55 | |
I want it a little flatter here. | 0:34:55 | 0:34:57 | |
Cyndi hated the make-up. I thought it was fine. | 0:34:57 | 0:34:59 | |
A little bit of Photoshop, we'll be good to go. | 0:34:59 | 0:35:01 | |
Just open this up a little bit. Wipe it down. | 0:35:01 | 0:35:04 | |
I'm... I'm kind of doing that with the powder instead of... | 0:35:04 | 0:35:06 | |
Because, remember, I airbrushed her, so, then, I don't want this... | 0:35:06 | 0:35:08 | |
-You airbrushed her? -Yeah. | 0:35:08 | 0:35:10 | |
Did you really? | 0:35:10 | 0:35:12 | |
You spray-painted this kid?! | 0:35:12 | 0:35:14 | |
She's 20-something! You don't spray-paint them. | 0:35:14 | 0:35:17 | |
You spray the old buzzards, not the kids. | 0:35:17 | 0:35:20 | |
She looks pretty heavily made-up. | 0:35:20 | 0:35:23 | |
You can't see her skin any more. | 0:35:23 | 0:35:25 | |
I made her wipe down the cheeks, and I thought, "Ay-yi-yi!" | 0:35:25 | 0:35:29 | |
We're going to wait to try everything on, | 0:35:29 | 0:35:30 | |
but we want to get her in her first thing. | 0:35:30 | 0:35:32 | |
Yeah, get her in her first thing. | 0:35:32 | 0:35:33 | |
Cyndi thinks she's right and everybody else is stupid. | 0:35:33 | 0:35:37 | |
Hey, Sharon, can I speak to you a minute, please? | 0:35:37 | 0:35:40 | |
But she listens to Sharon. | 0:35:40 | 0:35:42 | |
I don't like the coat with that blouse. | 0:35:42 | 0:35:44 | |
I think it's wrong. | 0:35:44 | 0:35:45 | |
And I think it's heavy to wear | 0:35:45 | 0:35:48 | |
-when you're sitting and talking to somebody. -Mm-hmm. | 0:35:48 | 0:35:50 | |
This is how Cyndi and I make our living. | 0:35:50 | 0:35:52 | |
This is what we do professionally, | 0:35:52 | 0:35:55 | |
and we've both done extremely well out of it. | 0:35:55 | 0:35:58 | |
So, yes, she's going to ask me for my opinion | 0:35:58 | 0:36:01 | |
over all the girls. | 0:36:01 | 0:36:04 | |
It's just the way it is. | 0:36:04 | 0:36:05 | |
It's not about you, you. It's about the task. | 0:36:05 | 0:36:08 | |
-You've got to feel comfortable. -She liked the grey. | 0:36:08 | 0:36:10 | |
It was Maria who didn't like the grey. | 0:36:10 | 0:36:12 | |
-What's up, Bret? -How you doing, man? | 0:36:18 | 0:36:20 | |
-I'm good, man. How are you? -Great to see you. -You too. | 0:36:20 | 0:36:22 | |
-I'm building up Luke's bio right now. -Yeah? | 0:36:22 | 0:36:25 | |
You know what? Here. You want to have a seat for a minute? | 0:36:25 | 0:36:26 | |
Yeah, sit down. We're just setting up for the photo shoot. | 0:36:26 | 0:36:29 | |
The guys are out collecting everything. | 0:36:29 | 0:36:30 | |
When you were given the task this morning | 0:36:30 | 0:36:34 | |
and they said, "Makeover," | 0:36:34 | 0:36:36 | |
what did you think that... What did you think they meant by that? | 0:36:36 | 0:36:39 | |
Well, you know, here's my thing. | 0:36:39 | 0:36:40 | |
He has a definite line as to where his comfort zone is, | 0:36:40 | 0:36:44 | |
so what I said is, "I'm going to do a couple things. | 0:36:44 | 0:36:46 | |
"Show me where the end of your comfort zone is, | 0:36:46 | 0:36:48 | |
"And then I'm going to kick you in the butt | 0:36:48 | 0:36:50 | |
"right underneath there just about this much more." | 0:36:50 | 0:36:52 | |
"And take you across just a little more." | 0:36:52 | 0:36:54 | |
"I'm going to shove you across this much more." | 0:36:54 | 0:36:55 | |
Come on in. We can talk about this. | 0:36:55 | 0:36:57 | |
Didn't know this guy was going to be here. | 0:36:57 | 0:36:59 | |
Oh, this guy's great. Exactly. | 0:36:59 | 0:37:00 | |
So, how are you feeling about all this, Luke? | 0:37:00 | 0:37:02 | |
-I'm good. -You're comfortable with it? | 0:37:02 | 0:37:04 | |
Obviously, coming in, it's a little scary. You know the deal. | 0:37:04 | 0:37:06 | |
When they tell you that some guys that you've never met | 0:37:06 | 0:37:09 | |
are going to try to market you in a new way, | 0:37:09 | 0:37:11 | |
you're like, "Oh, gosh, there's no telling." | 0:37:11 | 0:37:13 | |
But it's been great, man. We're trying to figure some things out. | 0:37:13 | 0:37:16 | |
I'm a little curious as to which direction they're going to go in. | 0:37:16 | 0:37:19 | |
I couldn't really tell, cos they didn't have | 0:37:19 | 0:37:21 | |
any of the wardrobe or anything there yet, | 0:37:21 | 0:37:23 | |
but Bret seemed to be comfortable and confident | 0:37:23 | 0:37:26 | |
in what he was doing. | 0:37:26 | 0:37:27 | |
Somebody told me | 0:37:27 | 0:37:28 | |
that one of your little girls has some health issues. | 0:37:28 | 0:37:31 | |
-Yeah, yeah. -Yeah? | 0:37:31 | 0:37:32 | |
I have two daughters, Raine and Jorja, | 0:37:32 | 0:37:33 | |
and being a type I diabetic, | 0:37:33 | 0:37:35 | |
the chances of my kids getting it are about 50%. | 0:37:35 | 0:37:38 | |
And the minute that Kristi called me, their mom, | 0:37:38 | 0:37:41 | |
and said that she was sick, man, my heart... Man, oh, man. | 0:37:41 | 0:37:45 | |
So we're waiting for the blood results today. | 0:37:45 | 0:37:47 | |
You know, I've said so many prayers. | 0:37:47 | 0:37:49 | |
I don't even know what to say any more. I'm just like... | 0:37:49 | 0:37:51 | |
But what made me lose it, she was scared, and she's like, | 0:37:51 | 0:37:54 | |
"Dad, do I have to take a bunch of shots like you?" | 0:37:54 | 0:37:56 | |
And I was like... You know, | 0:37:56 | 0:37:57 | |
I don't know if you've ever had that happen, | 0:37:57 | 0:37:59 | |
where that lump... You know what I mean? | 0:37:59 | 0:38:00 | |
I was like... | 0:38:00 | 0:38:02 | |
Yeah, yeah. I've had that lump in my throat several times. | 0:38:02 | 0:38:05 | |
Trace and myself have kids, | 0:38:05 | 0:38:07 | |
and I think it was great to be able to relate on that level | 0:38:07 | 0:38:10 | |
of why we're here doing this. | 0:38:10 | 0:38:12 | |
-Thank you. -I empathise with you. | 0:38:12 | 0:38:14 | |
And, man, I really hope everything works out good. | 0:38:14 | 0:38:15 | |
Right back at you. You too, man. | 0:38:15 | 0:38:17 | |
Thank you for saying that. That means the world to me, for real. | 0:38:17 | 0:38:19 | |
-Good luck, man. -Thanks. | 0:38:19 | 0:38:21 | |
-Good luck in your task, too. -Thank you. | 0:38:21 | 0:38:23 | |
I like this in there. | 0:38:23 | 0:38:25 | |
Yeah, she's going to, but I kind of... | 0:38:25 | 0:38:27 | |
-You're so big! -Hello. | 0:38:33 | 0:38:35 | |
Could you take Goldberg if you wanted to? Summer. | 0:38:35 | 0:38:37 | |
I don't want to have to find out. | 0:38:37 | 0:38:40 | |
Hello, Emily. | 0:38:40 | 0:38:41 | |
Hi, Trace. How are you? | 0:38:41 | 0:38:42 | |
I'm fine. How are you? | 0:38:42 | 0:38:43 | |
-It's so good to see you. -You too, darling. | 0:38:43 | 0:38:46 | |
Look at you. You smell like coffee and leather, just like a man. | 0:38:46 | 0:38:49 | |
Oh! I love this girl. | 0:38:49 | 0:38:51 | |
It was a beehive in the women's room. | 0:38:51 | 0:38:53 | |
They all seemed to be very focused on what they were doing. | 0:38:53 | 0:38:57 | |
Is this the side you part on, besides the middle? | 0:38:57 | 0:38:59 | |
I like the way it's going now. It's cool. | 0:38:59 | 0:39:02 | |
What do you think of our makeover so far? | 0:39:02 | 0:39:05 | |
Well, you guys are awfully busy. | 0:39:05 | 0:39:07 | |
Huge contrast from the other room. | 0:39:07 | 0:39:09 | |
Girls in here are all playing well together, or... | 0:39:09 | 0:39:13 | |
Trying to. | 0:39:13 | 0:39:14 | |
I sensed a little dissension there. | 0:39:14 | 0:39:17 | |
A couple of the ladies, you know, | 0:39:17 | 0:39:19 | |
were just kind of just looking, you know. | 0:39:19 | 0:39:21 | |
Ah, I don't... You know. | 0:39:21 | 0:39:22 | |
They didn't say anything. | 0:39:22 | 0:39:23 | |
I just kind of sensed that maybe not everybody was on board, | 0:39:23 | 0:39:27 | |
which I think is a mistake. | 0:39:27 | 0:39:29 | |
Should we pin it a little bit? | 0:39:29 | 0:39:31 | |
Cyndi Lauper influenced fashion | 0:39:31 | 0:39:33 | |
on a scale that most people can't even imagine. | 0:39:33 | 0:39:37 | |
I mean, there were a whole generation of young girls | 0:39:37 | 0:39:39 | |
trying to dress like Cyndi Lauper. | 0:39:39 | 0:39:41 | |
If it was me, I'd give her free rein, | 0:39:41 | 0:39:43 | |
let her do whatever she wanted to. | 0:39:43 | 0:39:46 | |
And I know you have the patience | 0:39:46 | 0:39:48 | |
to be very good at this game | 0:39:48 | 0:39:50 | |
because of the man you have to work with all the time. | 0:39:50 | 0:39:54 | |
I'm not talking about Ozzy. I'm talking about Piers Morgan. | 0:39:54 | 0:39:57 | |
Oh, please! Piers! | 0:39:57 | 0:40:00 | |
God! | 0:40:00 | 0:40:01 | |
I don't have the proper vision for something like this, | 0:40:04 | 0:40:07 | |
because all it would do is convolute what... | 0:40:07 | 0:40:10 | |
what's going on with...with Bret. | 0:40:10 | 0:40:13 | |
This is right up Bret Michaels' alley. | 0:40:13 | 0:40:15 | |
I mean, I... What am I going to do? | 0:40:15 | 0:40:16 | |
Tell Bret Michaels how to put a promo pack together? | 0:40:16 | 0:40:19 | |
Am I going to tell Bret Michaels | 0:40:19 | 0:40:20 | |
how to do a photo shoot for a musician? | 0:40:20 | 0:40:23 | |
Let's do it. | 0:40:23 | 0:40:24 | |
We had a photo shoot coming up, | 0:40:26 | 0:40:28 | |
so we literally had to go out, | 0:40:28 | 0:40:29 | |
get some clothes, get whatever we needed | 0:40:29 | 0:40:31 | |
to sort of make that photo shoot come to life. | 0:40:31 | 0:40:34 | |
Thank God that Luke was very similar in build to Curtis, | 0:40:36 | 0:40:40 | |
because I think we saved a lot of time | 0:40:40 | 0:40:42 | |
by going back to the hotel | 0:40:42 | 0:40:43 | |
and just grabbing a lot of stuff that Curtis had. | 0:40:43 | 0:40:45 | |
Nice work, brother. | 0:40:45 | 0:40:47 | |
Oh, God. | 0:40:47 | 0:40:48 | |
-Let's go. -Go! | 0:40:48 | 0:40:51 | |
We would really appreciate it if you could hustle. | 0:40:51 | 0:40:54 | |
What I'm looking for for him | 0:40:56 | 0:40:58 | |
is I need to bring out the rock star in him. | 0:40:58 | 0:41:00 | |
I need to make him more identifiable. | 0:41:00 | 0:41:03 | |
-What I don't want to get is hokey old-school. -Absolutely. | 0:41:03 | 0:41:06 | |
'The photo shoot is starting in ten minutes,' | 0:41:06 | 0:41:08 | |
and we've got to get this done. The guys aren't back yet, | 0:41:08 | 0:41:10 | |
and I'm really starting to get nervous. | 0:41:10 | 0:41:12 | |
Is there another way we can go? | 0:41:12 | 0:41:15 | |
There's no other way to get out of here? | 0:41:15 | 0:41:18 | |
cos this is a parking lot. | 0:41:18 | 0:41:20 | |
-Tell me what you're here doing. -Make-up and hair. | 0:41:20 | 0:41:22 | |
That's all I needed to know. | 0:41:22 | 0:41:23 | |
That's perfect. And I apologise. We'll be just a minute. | 0:41:23 | 0:41:26 | |
I've had so many things going so many different directions. | 0:41:26 | 0:41:28 | |
Can I help you bring stuff up, anybody? | 0:41:28 | 0:41:30 | |
I probably would have liked to have kept Bill with me | 0:41:30 | 0:41:33 | |
just to get...you know, stay calm and focus on a couple other things | 0:41:33 | 0:41:37 | |
that we needed to get done, but there is no doubt | 0:41:37 | 0:41:39 | |
I bit off probably a lot more than I could chew. | 0:41:39 | 0:41:43 | |
The photo shoot started at 4.00 till 5.00, OK? | 0:41:43 | 0:41:46 | |
We're going to be there at 4.15. | 0:41:46 | 0:41:49 | |
We're going to have 45 minutes to nail the shots. | 0:41:49 | 0:41:53 | |
I'm going to call my guys and see how close they are. | 0:41:53 | 0:41:56 | |
-'Hello?' -Hey, Bret. | 0:41:59 | 0:42:01 | |
-Hey. Who's this? -Goldberg. -Hey, Goldberg. Where you guys at? | 0:42:01 | 0:42:04 | |
We're close, ten minutes away. | 0:42:04 | 0:42:06 | |
As soon as you get here, I could use you, man. | 0:42:06 | 0:42:08 | |
'We finished the bio. | 0:42:08 | 0:42:09 | |
'Now I need you to help me put it all together.' | 0:42:09 | 0:42:11 | |
You got it, buddy. You got it, man. | 0:42:11 | 0:42:13 | |
We're hauling ass, dude. | 0:42:13 | 0:42:14 | |
We've just...we've had a couple traffic snafus. | 0:42:14 | 0:42:17 | |
OK, here we go. You ready? | 0:42:17 | 0:42:20 | |
So, I mean, there's no other way to get out of here? | 0:42:20 | 0:42:22 | |
This is painful. | 0:42:22 | 0:42:23 | |
We're going to have 20 minutes, realistically, to shoot this guy. | 0:42:23 | 0:42:26 | |
The funny thing about Bill Goldberg is, | 0:42:26 | 0:42:28 | |
if he ever gets angry, he just snarls. | 0:42:28 | 0:42:31 | |
SNARLING | 0:42:31 | 0:42:33 | |
I don't want to see him explode, and I think he's close. | 0:42:33 | 0:42:36 | |
God, you're kidding me. | 0:42:36 | 0:42:38 | |
Stressful, isn't it? | 0:42:38 | 0:42:40 | |
And what I want to do is really blow him out. | 0:42:49 | 0:42:51 | |
I want it to look great and, you, just confident. | 0:42:51 | 0:42:54 | |
-Here we go. -All right, just give me your chin down a bit. | 0:42:54 | 0:42:57 | |
The photo shoot is upon us, | 0:42:57 | 0:42:58 | |
and the guys aren't back, and we've got no clothes. | 0:42:58 | 0:43:01 | |
Inside, I was getting concerned | 0:43:01 | 0:43:03 | |
that Luke was going to be wearing one shirt. | 0:43:03 | 0:43:05 | |
Down here, Curtis. | 0:43:07 | 0:43:09 | |
Little smile. | 0:43:09 | 0:43:11 | |
Terrific. | 0:43:12 | 0:43:13 | |
OK. Let's take a look at these. | 0:43:13 | 0:43:15 | |
Let's do a few more like this. See, that looks killer, man. | 0:43:15 | 0:43:19 | |
-There's my shoppers. -Yeah. | 0:43:21 | 0:43:23 | |
And just go with me. Get that one on. | 0:43:23 | 0:43:26 | |
By the time we arrived back with all the clothes, | 0:43:26 | 0:43:29 | |
we just quickly got him changed and went for it. | 0:43:29 | 0:43:31 | |
It's different for me, I'll tell you that. | 0:43:31 | 0:43:33 | |
-But I got to go with you. -Trust me. | 0:43:33 | 0:43:36 | |
OK. Let's get that outfit out of there. | 0:43:36 | 0:43:38 | |
Now I'll give you this and then the leather jacket. | 0:43:38 | 0:43:40 | |
Just see what that looks like. Do we have a necklace? | 0:43:40 | 0:43:43 | |
Put that on. Just try. | 0:43:43 | 0:43:45 | |
That looks manly on you. That looks good. | 0:43:45 | 0:43:47 | |
'You know, Luke definitely got outside of his comfort zone,' | 0:43:47 | 0:43:49 | |
but he rolled with it. | 0:43:49 | 0:43:51 | |
We got 20 minutes left with the photographer. | 0:43:53 | 0:43:54 | |
We want to get as many good shots as we can. | 0:43:54 | 0:43:56 | |
Set your chin on it, | 0:43:56 | 0:43:57 | |
and you got to aim this right down the pipe. | 0:43:57 | 0:44:00 | |
-That's what I'm talking about. -That's good. | 0:44:00 | 0:44:02 | |
Yeah, you know what I mean? | 0:44:02 | 0:44:03 | |
It has a little Elvis vibe going on, too. | 0:44:03 | 0:44:05 | |
Maybe a little softer in the face. There you go. Right. | 0:44:05 | 0:44:07 | |
Let's slick his hair back. I mean, I'm talking quickly. | 0:44:07 | 0:44:10 | |
Great. | 0:44:10 | 0:44:11 | |
We're running so out of time. | 0:44:11 | 0:44:13 | |
Great. | 0:44:13 | 0:44:15 | |
Smile. Give him a big smile. | 0:44:15 | 0:44:17 | |
Smile, man! | 0:44:17 | 0:44:19 | |
Them teeth are going to sell records for you. | 0:44:19 | 0:44:21 | |
See? Smile! | 0:44:21 | 0:44:23 | |
Come on, man. You got them pretty white teeth. | 0:44:23 | 0:44:26 | |
Goldberg, the entire time we were doing this, | 0:44:26 | 0:44:28 | |
kept yelling, "Smile! Smile!" | 0:44:28 | 0:44:31 | |
Smile, big man! Come on! | 0:44:31 | 0:44:33 | |
I think Luke was so scared of him that he just, like... | 0:44:33 | 0:44:35 | |
He was doing this really cheesy smile, | 0:44:35 | 0:44:37 | |
cos I think he thought Goldberg was going to beat him up. | 0:44:37 | 0:44:39 | |
-Big smile, man. There you go. -He's a sucker for the smiles. | 0:44:39 | 0:44:42 | |
No, man. That sells, bro. | 0:44:42 | 0:44:44 | |
It sells. You've got big-ass teeth. | 0:44:44 | 0:44:46 | |
That's it. We're done. Let's take a look at these. | 0:44:46 | 0:44:48 | |
I'm going to wake up in the middle of the night | 0:44:48 | 0:44:50 | |
going, "Smile, damn it!" | 0:44:50 | 0:44:52 | |
OK. Just don't bunch up those roses. | 0:44:53 | 0:44:56 | |
-Just separate them. -OK. | 0:44:56 | 0:44:58 | |
Part of the criteria of winning this baby | 0:44:58 | 0:45:00 | |
is the press kit, | 0:45:00 | 0:45:01 | |
so the press kit needed to be smoking. | 0:45:01 | 0:45:04 | |
The one that's coming out of her head, we have to change. | 0:45:04 | 0:45:06 | |
Oh, but pull it up a little. | 0:45:06 | 0:45:08 | |
What do you guys think? | 0:45:08 | 0:45:10 | |
It's nice when she smiles, but you know what? | 0:45:10 | 0:45:12 | |
Can she give you a tiny bit more profile? | 0:45:12 | 0:45:16 | |
That's great! | 0:45:20 | 0:45:22 | |
It sounds so simple, but actually putting her in black | 0:45:22 | 0:45:27 | |
gave her somewhat of an attitude that she didn't have before. | 0:45:27 | 0:45:31 | |
Pretty. Open your eyes. | 0:45:33 | 0:45:35 | |
Big eyes, big eyes! Open, open wide! | 0:45:35 | 0:45:38 | |
I tried to stand along the sidelines, but it was hard to watch. | 0:45:39 | 0:45:43 | |
Straight hips. | 0:45:43 | 0:45:45 | |
I started modelling when I was 14 years old. | 0:45:45 | 0:45:48 | |
I taught my sister how to do photo shoots. | 0:45:48 | 0:45:50 | |
I've helped out some of the girls | 0:45:50 | 0:45:51 | |
within World Wrestling Entertainment. | 0:45:51 | 0:45:53 | |
I also know how to use a camera. | 0:45:53 | 0:45:55 | |
So, doesn't that make me a candidate to be able to help? | 0:45:55 | 0:45:59 | |
Can you do a couple where you look off, OK? | 0:46:00 | 0:46:04 | |
You don't have enough hair on the side. | 0:46:04 | 0:46:06 | |
You know, I was trying to direct, and then Maria steps in there. | 0:46:09 | 0:46:13 | |
You know, she should have talked to me and asked me. | 0:46:13 | 0:46:15 | |
A minute and a half. Please step out. | 0:46:15 | 0:46:17 | |
Please step out. Yeah, yeah. Go ahead. | 0:46:17 | 0:46:19 | |
No, you're in. You go. Connect, connect. | 0:46:19 | 0:46:21 | |
Let me know when we have 30 seconds, will you? | 0:46:21 | 0:46:22 | |
-OK. -Great. | 0:46:22 | 0:46:23 | |
It's hard to get cut off all the time. | 0:46:23 | 0:46:26 | |
Yeah, some close-ups. | 0:46:26 | 0:46:28 | |
In my own thing, I don't put up with that. | 0:46:28 | 0:46:32 | |
Everybody has their job. | 0:46:32 | 0:46:33 | |
Sometimes church and state cross over, | 0:46:33 | 0:46:36 | |
and sometimes they don't. | 0:46:36 | 0:46:38 | |
You're beautiful. You're beautiful. You're strong. You're every woman. | 0:46:38 | 0:46:41 | |
Maria tried to step in, and Cyndi got annoyed. | 0:46:42 | 0:46:45 | |
I do think Maria has some great ideas, | 0:46:45 | 0:46:47 | |
but Maria also has to recognise, | 0:46:47 | 0:46:48 | |
right or wrong, Cyndi is Project Manager, | 0:46:48 | 0:46:51 | |
so the boss is saying, "I want this to be my deal," | 0:46:51 | 0:46:54 | |
then let it be her deal. | 0:46:54 | 0:46:56 | |
You can't take it personally. | 0:46:56 | 0:46:57 | |
Straight underneath. | 0:46:57 | 0:46:58 | |
That's beautiful. | 0:47:00 | 0:47:01 | |
-OK, it's a wrap. -All righty. | 0:47:01 | 0:47:03 | |
Thank you! | 0:47:03 | 0:47:04 | |
Cyndi has a vision, but Cyndi has | 0:47:04 | 0:47:07 | |
this very disorganised way of doing things, | 0:47:07 | 0:47:11 | |
but she gets there in the end. She really, really does. | 0:47:11 | 0:47:13 | |
And in her own way, I think she's pulled it off. I do. | 0:47:13 | 0:47:16 | |
Oh, my gosh! I love that! | 0:47:16 | 0:47:19 | |
There are some really lovely ones. | 0:47:19 | 0:47:20 | |
-That's cute! -And you know what? | 0:47:20 | 0:47:22 | |
That looks nothing like what you've done before. | 0:47:22 | 0:47:25 | |
It totally doesn't. | 0:47:25 | 0:47:27 | |
If the ruffles were in a different place, | 0:47:32 | 0:47:34 | |
it would look really nice. | 0:47:34 | 0:47:35 | |
There's one that I know she'll like, but I don't know... | 0:47:35 | 0:47:38 | |
-Hi! -Hello! | 0:47:38 | 0:47:39 | |
-Hi! -How are you? | 0:47:39 | 0:47:40 | |
Good. I'm Cindy Sanz. Nice to meet you. | 0:47:40 | 0:47:43 | |
Emily had to be dressed | 0:47:43 | 0:47:45 | |
and ready for a People magazine interview. | 0:47:45 | 0:47:47 | |
Maria had already media-trained her. | 0:47:47 | 0:47:49 | |
So, Emily's over here. OK? | 0:47:49 | 0:47:51 | |
Yes. We're just going to step out and give you guys a moment. | 0:47:51 | 0:47:54 | |
Do you want to just introduce them? | 0:47:54 | 0:47:56 | |
Yes, of course. | 0:47:56 | 0:47:57 | |
-Hi. I'm Cindy Sanz from People Country. -Hey! | 0:47:57 | 0:47:59 | |
Nice to meet you. | 0:47:59 | 0:48:01 | |
Nice to meet you! Good to see you. | 0:48:01 | 0:48:02 | |
-You look great. -Thank you. So do you. | 0:48:02 | 0:48:03 | |
Do you guys want to sit here? | 0:48:03 | 0:48:05 | |
-Sure. -We consciously said, "Let's leave that space | 0:48:05 | 0:48:08 | |
"So that Emily doesn't feel nervous with us, like, | 0:48:08 | 0:48:10 | |
"you know, right over her, like, you know, nervous moms." | 0:48:10 | 0:48:13 | |
"I hope she says the right thing." | 0:48:13 | 0:48:14 | |
Now, certainly, there's a lot | 0:48:14 | 0:48:16 | |
of, like, terrific women in Nashville these days... | 0:48:16 | 0:48:18 | |
Taylor Swift, Carrie Underwood, | 0:48:18 | 0:48:20 | |
Julianne Hough, Kellie Pickler. | 0:48:20 | 0:48:22 | |
I mean, how do you set yourself apart? | 0:48:22 | 0:48:24 | |
Well, you know, I have always had a tendency | 0:48:24 | 0:48:27 | |
to say... My mom says that I say things | 0:48:27 | 0:48:29 | |
that people think but don't have the guts to say, | 0:48:29 | 0:48:32 | |
and when I first moved to town, | 0:48:32 | 0:48:34 | |
I really didn't know how to sculpt a song. | 0:48:34 | 0:48:37 | |
'I'd met Emily West a few times before,' | 0:48:37 | 0:48:39 | |
and Emily's always been really bubbly and easy to talk to. | 0:48:39 | 0:48:42 | |
I felt like now she's a little more focused. | 0:48:42 | 0:48:45 | |
'She had things that she clearly wanted to say.' | 0:48:45 | 0:48:47 | |
Well, this has been a great time for you. | 0:48:47 | 0:48:49 | |
-You have a new single. -I do. | 0:48:49 | 0:48:50 | |
And Keith Urban is singing backup on it? | 0:48:50 | 0:48:52 | |
Yes, he is. | 0:48:52 | 0:48:53 | |
I wrote this song, you know, | 0:48:53 | 0:48:55 | |
out of a really, really bad time in my life | 0:48:55 | 0:48:58 | |
with my mom and dad and their separation, | 0:48:58 | 0:49:01 | |
and it was written out of pain, | 0:49:01 | 0:49:04 | |
and it's been very much a healing song. | 0:49:04 | 0:49:07 | |
The interview that Cynthia did with me, | 0:49:07 | 0:49:08 | |
I felt ahold of my core, | 0:49:08 | 0:49:10 | |
cos she was asking me some serious questions, | 0:49:10 | 0:49:12 | |
and I didn't shy away and make a joke of it. | 0:49:12 | 0:49:14 | |
Well, thank you so much for your time. | 0:49:14 | 0:49:15 | |
It was great talking to you. | 0:49:15 | 0:49:17 | |
Thank you, Cindy. Thank you so much. | 0:49:17 | 0:49:18 | |
-Good luck with all of this. -All right! | 0:49:18 | 0:49:19 | |
Maria gave me the confidence to breathe, | 0:49:19 | 0:49:21 | |
and she had such great advice to give me | 0:49:21 | 0:49:23 | |
about how to be interviewed. | 0:49:23 | 0:49:25 | |
I was a huge hit! | 0:49:25 | 0:49:27 | |
Did you listen? | 0:49:28 | 0:49:29 | |
SHARON: No. Tell me everything. | 0:49:29 | 0:49:32 | |
-I'm Cindy Sanz from People Country. -Nice to meet you. | 0:49:37 | 0:49:40 | |
-How are you? -Good to see you. -Good to see you. | 0:49:40 | 0:49:41 | |
-You doing all right? -Yeah. You look terrific. | 0:49:41 | 0:49:43 | |
Thank you, thank you. | 0:49:43 | 0:49:44 | |
People magazine is such a great opportunity for him. | 0:49:44 | 0:49:47 | |
I said, "When you sit down in an interview, | 0:49:47 | 0:49:48 | |
don't sit down and say, "Look, I'm burnt out. I'm tired." | 0:49:48 | 0:49:52 | |
I said, "You don't have to jump around and do jumping jacks," | 0:49:52 | 0:49:54 | |
but I said, "These people are helping to break your career." | 0:49:54 | 0:49:58 | |
There's so many times you're tired out here and you're run down, | 0:49:58 | 0:50:01 | |
but you just have to... When you get on stage, | 0:50:01 | 0:50:03 | |
it just has to all be worth it, | 0:50:03 | 0:50:04 | |
and you have to give it all you got while you're up there. | 0:50:04 | 0:50:07 | |
So, what do you think it will take to push you to that next level? | 0:50:07 | 0:50:09 | |
-Ultimately, the right songs. -Uh-huh. | 0:50:09 | 0:50:11 | |
You know, looking back, maybe there's one | 0:50:11 | 0:50:13 | |
that I would have liked to have shuffled around, | 0:50:13 | 0:50:16 | |
but, you know, I'm glad... I'm glad that I... | 0:50:16 | 0:50:18 | |
You know, I feel like you always have to be smart | 0:50:18 | 0:50:20 | |
and listen for those right songs, too. | 0:50:20 | 0:50:22 | |
Mm-hmm. | 0:50:22 | 0:50:23 | |
I think Luke could have not said "You know" 40 times less, | 0:50:23 | 0:50:27 | |
but, "You know... you know...you know..." | 0:50:27 | 0:50:31 | |
You know, my... you know, my mistakes or my... | 0:50:31 | 0:50:34 | |
my highs and lows are my family's highs and lows, | 0:50:34 | 0:50:37 | |
and when I come off the road, it's... Excuse me... | 0:50:37 | 0:50:40 | |
-I want to do whatever I can do... -Uh-oh. | 0:50:40 | 0:50:41 | |
..to spend as much time with my wife and my son | 0:50:41 | 0:50:44 | |
as much as I can. | 0:50:44 | 0:50:46 | |
And, you know, she's sending me pictures... Excuse me... | 0:50:46 | 0:50:49 | |
..with little captions and stuff like that, | 0:50:49 | 0:50:51 | |
saying, "I love you, Daddy," And stuff like that. | 0:50:51 | 0:50:53 | |
And, you know, the whole experience | 0:50:53 | 0:50:55 | |
has been just completely fulfilling. | 0:50:55 | 0:50:58 | |
-All right. Well, thank you so much. -Thank you for your time. | 0:50:58 | 0:51:00 | |
-It was great talking to you. -And I apologise for the little few yawns. | 0:51:00 | 0:51:02 | |
Oh. You've had a long day. | 0:51:02 | 0:51:04 | |
Yeah. Well, not only the day. | 0:51:04 | 0:51:05 | |
The night was somewhat interesting, so... | 0:51:05 | 0:51:08 | |
We'd actually worked with Luke Bryan | 0:51:08 | 0:51:09 | |
a number of times on some different stories. | 0:51:09 | 0:51:11 | |
I think Luke is a little tired. | 0:51:11 | 0:51:12 | |
It had been a busy, long day, | 0:51:12 | 0:51:14 | |
and sometimes he seemed a little off. | 0:51:14 | 0:51:16 | |
He needs focus, and he needs to really plan out what he wants to be | 0:51:16 | 0:51:20 | |
and to make it happen for himself. | 0:51:20 | 0:51:22 | |
Hey, Luke, guys. We got to really focus now. | 0:51:24 | 0:51:27 | |
Come on in. Let's start looking at these. | 0:51:27 | 0:51:29 | |
It's a little, uh... | 0:51:29 | 0:51:31 | |
I mean, the outfit is what it is. It's a little, uh, Al Pacino. | 0:51:31 | 0:51:35 | |
The deal with the guitar, like I said, | 0:51:35 | 0:51:37 | |
I've already told you - it's way out of my box. | 0:51:37 | 0:51:40 | |
What do you think about that? | 0:51:40 | 0:51:42 | |
Eh, almost good. | 0:51:42 | 0:51:44 | |
-Not good. -You tell me. | 0:51:44 | 0:51:46 | |
It's a little too tough there. | 0:51:46 | 0:51:47 | |
This task is a tricky one, you know, | 0:51:47 | 0:51:49 | |
because you're working with an artist | 0:51:49 | 0:51:50 | |
who has his own look | 0:51:50 | 0:51:52 | |
and dresses the way he does | 0:51:52 | 0:51:53 | |
cos he feels comfortable, like we all do. | 0:51:53 | 0:51:55 | |
That's a little weird look, though. | 0:51:55 | 0:51:57 | |
Luke's been tough to work with | 0:51:57 | 0:51:58 | |
in the fact that we're supposed to be giving him a makeover. | 0:51:58 | 0:52:01 | |
He doesn't want to look any different | 0:52:01 | 0:52:02 | |
than how he looks right now. | 0:52:02 | 0:52:03 | |
Kind of looks like a senior picture. | 0:52:03 | 0:52:06 | |
OK. Keep going. | 0:52:06 | 0:52:07 | |
Eh. Eh. | 0:52:07 | 0:52:09 | |
Eh. Eh. | 0:52:09 | 0:52:11 | |
Eh. Eh. | 0:52:11 | 0:52:13 | |
Eh. No. | 0:52:13 | 0:52:15 | |
Eh. | 0:52:15 | 0:52:17 | |
Look at that Scarface Guy. | 0:52:28 | 0:52:29 | |
He can either say, "I'll play you a song" | 0:52:29 | 0:52:32 | |
-or "I'll -BLEEP -kill you." | 0:52:32 | 0:52:33 | |
Oh, my! | 0:52:37 | 0:52:39 | |
There's no, uh... There's nothing on here. | 0:52:39 | 0:52:41 | |
-Oh -BLEEP. | 0:52:41 | 0:52:43 | |
-What? -I didn't touch up. | 0:52:43 | 0:52:45 | |
I thought the press kit looked awful. | 0:52:45 | 0:52:46 | |
This is such a beautiful young lady, | 0:52:46 | 0:52:49 | |
but even the most beautiful young women | 0:52:49 | 0:52:51 | |
need a little touch-up here and there. | 0:52:51 | 0:52:52 | |
I don't have her name here, | 0:52:52 | 0:52:54 | |
and I should have made it a little smaller, | 0:52:54 | 0:52:56 | |
and underneath, you put her name, | 0:52:56 | 0:52:57 | |
and you put "Capitol." All right, well, | 0:52:57 | 0:52:59 | |
that's going to be a big mistake, but you know what? | 0:52:59 | 0:53:01 | |
I did my best. There was no time. | 0:53:01 | 0:53:03 | |
We just have to be better than the guys. | 0:53:03 | 0:53:05 | |
I think you look cool, but your mojo got to feel it. | 0:53:05 | 0:53:08 | |
-If you don't feel it... -Are you comfortable with it? | 0:53:08 | 0:53:10 | |
I'm a little uncomfortable with the chain. | 0:53:10 | 0:53:12 | |
This is all about kind of reinventing you a little bit, | 0:53:12 | 0:53:15 | |
so maybe you ought to go out on a limb, | 0:53:15 | 0:53:17 | |
even if you feel uncomfortable. | 0:53:17 | 0:53:19 | |
The task was to take the musician to the next level, | 0:53:19 | 0:53:22 | |
but we made him a little uncomfortable, you know, | 0:53:22 | 0:53:24 | |
but that's the fine line | 0:53:24 | 0:53:26 | |
that you don't want to cross, | 0:53:26 | 0:53:28 | |
because if you make someone uncomfortable, | 0:53:28 | 0:53:30 | |
it can be a deterrent when they're trying to perform. | 0:53:30 | 0:53:33 | |
Look at that, man. | 0:53:34 | 0:53:35 | |
No-one's going to say anything about that to him. | 0:53:35 | 0:53:37 | |
That looks awesome. | 0:53:37 | 0:53:39 | |
What's the matter with you and the necklace? | 0:53:39 | 0:53:41 | |
It's just...it's a little outside my deal, but... | 0:53:41 | 0:53:43 | |
God! | 0:53:43 | 0:53:45 | |
If that's outside your deal right there, | 0:53:45 | 0:53:46 | |
you need to broaden your deal. | 0:53:46 | 0:53:49 | |
"You got to broaden your deal." | 0:53:50 | 0:53:52 | |
-Guys, let's put it in. We ready? -Let's do it. -Let's do it, man. | 0:53:52 | 0:53:56 | |
You call it. On three. One, two, three. | 0:53:56 | 0:53:58 | |
-ALL: Rocksolid. -Baby! | 0:53:58 | 0:54:01 | |
So, the judges are Pete Fisher from the Grand Ole Opry, | 0:54:06 | 0:54:09 | |
Cynthia Sanz from People Country | 0:54:09 | 0:54:11 | |
and Mike Culotta - a great country DJ. | 0:54:11 | 0:54:15 | |
MUSIC PLAYING | 0:54:15 | 0:54:18 | |
One, two... | 0:54:18 | 0:54:20 | |
One, two, three, four! | 0:54:20 | 0:54:22 | |
Yeah, here we go! | 0:54:29 | 0:54:30 | |
# My daddy spent his life looking up at the sky | 0:54:41 | 0:54:45 | |
# He'd cuss, kick the dust | 0:54:45 | 0:54:47 | |
# Saying, "Son, it's way too dry" | 0:54:47 | 0:54:49 | |
# Clouds up in the city And the weatherman complains | 0:54:49 | 0:54:54 | |
# But where I come from Rain is a good thing... # | 0:54:54 | 0:54:57 | |
Here we go! | 0:54:57 | 0:54:59 | |
# Rain makes corn | 0:54:59 | 0:55:01 | |
# Corn makes whisky | 0:55:01 | 0:55:03 | |
# Whisky makes my baby | 0:55:03 | 0:55:06 | |
# Feel a little frisky... # | 0:55:06 | 0:55:08 | |
Luke Bryan's performance was magic. | 0:55:08 | 0:55:11 | |
There was some good mojo going on, | 0:55:11 | 0:55:13 | |
and I'd like to think it was my chain that did it, | 0:55:13 | 0:55:15 | |
-the old necklace. -# Whisky makes my baby... # | 0:55:15 | 0:55:18 | |
Come on! # Feel a little frisky... # | 0:55:18 | 0:55:20 | |
I'm tapping my foot. I like it. | 0:55:20 | 0:55:22 | |
Who knows? Maybe I'll turn into a country fan. | 0:55:22 | 0:55:24 | |
(OFF-KEY) # Rain makes corn | 0:55:24 | 0:55:26 | |
# Corn makes whisky... # | 0:55:26 | 0:55:29 | |
OK. I'll keep cooking. | 0:55:29 | 0:55:31 | |
# Rain is a good thi-i-i-i-ng! # | 0:55:31 | 0:55:35 | |
Yeah! | 0:55:37 | 0:55:38 | |
Thank you so much, guys! Thank you! | 0:55:39 | 0:55:42 | |
Regardless of my leadership skills today | 0:55:42 | 0:55:44 | |
in a field where I had no clue, I think Luke did really good. | 0:55:44 | 0:55:48 | |
I truly believed we helped him go to the next level. | 0:55:48 | 0:55:51 | |
I really do. | 0:55:51 | 0:55:52 | |
All right, here we go. | 0:55:56 | 0:55:57 | |
On three, "Emily." | 0:55:57 | 0:55:58 | |
ALL: One, two, three. | 0:55:58 | 0:55:59 | |
-Emily! -Tenacity! -Emily! -Emily! | 0:55:59 | 0:56:01 | |
Tenacity! | 0:56:01 | 0:56:03 | |
We headed into the performance. | 0:56:07 | 0:56:08 | |
Emily went on stage, | 0:56:08 | 0:56:10 | |
and we, as her...as her groupies, | 0:56:10 | 0:56:13 | |
stayed back and just watched our... | 0:56:13 | 0:56:15 | |
our rising star take the stage. | 0:56:15 | 0:56:17 | |
# Weatherman says it's gonna rain tonight | 0:56:18 | 0:56:23 | |
# The kind of storm where the basement floods | 0:56:26 | 0:56:31 | |
# You'll lose the lights | 0:56:31 | 0:56:35 | |
# You should have thought of that before | 0:56:35 | 0:56:40 | |
# Cos I'm not your blue sky any more... # | 0:56:41 | 0:56:48 | |
I do feel as though Emily made a nice make over. | 0:56:50 | 0:56:52 | |
I do feel like Cyndi achieved a different look | 0:56:52 | 0:56:55 | |
from the look that she walked in with. | 0:56:55 | 0:56:56 | |
# You should have thought of that before... # | 0:56:56 | 0:56:58 | |
Can I just say this woman has such a big talent? | 0:56:58 | 0:57:03 | |
Emily West is going to be a superstar. | 0:57:03 | 0:57:06 | |
# The weatherman says it's gonna rain toni-i-i-i-ght... # | 0:57:06 | 0:57:14 | |
I got a little caught up with this kid Emily because... | 0:57:14 | 0:57:17 | |
because Blue Sky makes me just cry. | 0:57:17 | 0:57:20 | |
She's all set up to walk forth in her path. | 0:57:20 | 0:57:24 | |
# I'm not your blue sky | 0:57:24 | 0:57:31 | |
# Any more. # | 0:57:31 | 0:57:34 | |
Thank you. | 0:57:46 | 0:57:47 | |
Well, I hope that we see each other again. | 0:57:51 | 0:57:53 | |
Can I talk to her private? Come here. | 0:57:53 | 0:57:55 | |
You can take all of this forward, all right? | 0:57:55 | 0:57:59 | |
And nothing happened to me till I was 30. | 0:57:59 | 0:58:02 | |
Sometimes life don't begin till then, all right? | 0:58:02 | 0:58:06 | |
Never give up. | 0:58:06 | 0:58:08 | |
You're not going to anyway. | 0:58:08 | 0:58:10 | |
I know the camera's on, but what am I going to do? | 0:58:10 | 0:58:12 | |
I can't talk to you anyway, and then I won't see you. | 0:58:12 | 0:58:15 | |
All right? But good luck to you. | 0:58:15 | 0:58:17 | |
You'll kill them, you know? | 0:58:17 | 0:58:20 | |
I know I affected her and I helped her, | 0:58:20 | 0:58:23 | |
and I gave her advice | 0:58:23 | 0:58:26 | |
to make her look really good and her feel really good. | 0:58:26 | 0:58:30 | |
-I love you, guys. -I love you, too. | 0:58:30 | 0:58:32 | |
OK, bye. | 0:58:32 | 0:58:33 | |
Bye, honey. | 0:58:33 | 0:58:34 | |
So, what did you guys think? | 0:58:39 | 0:58:42 | |
Both performers did a great job. They really did. | 0:58:42 | 0:58:45 | |
They're two different types of performers, | 0:58:45 | 0:58:47 | |
and I think the teams had different approaches | 0:58:47 | 0:58:49 | |
as to how to prepare. | 0:58:49 | 0:58:50 | |
And, you know, I think the teams did a really good job | 0:58:50 | 0:58:53 | |
of not drifting too far away | 0:58:53 | 0:58:54 | |
and really kind of bringing out the good qualities. | 0:58:54 | 0:58:57 | |
But I think they both helped them, you know. | 0:58:57 | 0:58:58 | |
She looked a little more polished, | 0:58:58 | 0:59:00 | |
a little more sophisticated, and...and he, too. | 0:59:00 | 0:59:03 | |
I mean, he's sort of been | 0:59:03 | 0:59:04 | |
this kind of good-time guy in Nashville, | 0:59:04 | 0:59:06 | |
and he seemed like he has a little sleeker look this time. | 0:59:06 | 0:59:09 | |
Yeah, when I look at the materials | 0:59:09 | 0:59:11 | |
that the women came up with, you know, what I see here | 0:59:11 | 0:59:14 | |
is this is a lady with great personality. | 0:59:14 | 0:59:18 | |
There's a class about her. | 0:59:18 | 0:59:20 | |
But that wasn't on stage tonight. | 0:59:20 | 0:59:22 | |
-No. -That wasn't on stage. | 0:59:22 | 0:59:24 | |
Still sophisticated from where she normally is. | 0:59:24 | 0:59:26 | |
It would be vibrant colours and some fun stuff. | 0:59:26 | 0:59:28 | |
In the press materials, | 0:59:28 | 0:59:29 | |
I'm not sure you really get that image of her. | 0:59:29 | 0:59:31 | |
You don't get the fun of Emily. | 0:59:31 | 0:59:33 | |
It's a beautiful picture, | 0:59:33 | 0:59:34 | |
but, to me, it's, like, really fashion-y. | 0:59:34 | 0:59:36 | |
She's got so much personality and she seems so approachable, | 0:59:36 | 0:59:38 | |
and this is a little formal. | 0:59:38 | 0:59:39 | |
You know, as far as the guys on Luke's team, | 0:59:39 | 0:59:42 | |
I always knew, you know, Luke Bryan | 0:59:42 | 0:59:44 | |
as kind of a guy with a smile on his face, | 0:59:44 | 0:59:46 | |
and so | 0:59:46 | 0:59:47 | |
I don't know if the brand really kind of goes here. | 0:59:47 | 0:59:51 | |
I just wish I would have seen a smile on his face here. | 0:59:51 | 0:59:55 | |
So, guys, which team did the better job with the makeover? | 0:59:55 | 0:59:58 | |
Ladies. | 1:00:10 | 1:00:11 | |
First of all, I'd like to thank Trace | 1:00:31 | 1:00:33 | |
for joining us on Celebrity Apprentice. | 1:00:33 | 1:00:35 | |
It's nice to have you back. | 1:00:35 | 1:00:37 | |
It's good to be here. | 1:00:37 | 1:00:39 | |
Sharon, how are you feeling? | 1:00:39 | 1:00:40 | |
So much better. Thank you, Mr Trump. | 1:00:40 | 1:00:42 | |
It looks good. Very good. So you're OK? | 1:00:42 | 1:00:44 | |
-Yeah, yeah. -Good. | 1:00:44 | 1:00:45 | |
Cyndi, how'd your team do? | 1:00:45 | 1:00:47 | |
I think they did very well. | 1:00:47 | 1:00:48 | |
I was especially excited to work with Emily West. | 1:00:48 | 1:00:53 | |
I think... | 1:00:53 | 1:00:54 | |
Was she good? | 1:00:54 | 1:00:56 | |
-She's great. -Did she have talent? | 1:00:56 | 1:00:57 | |
She's... She's great. She's one of the real deals. | 1:00:57 | 1:01:01 | |
Maria, what did you think of Cyndi? | 1:01:01 | 1:01:04 | |
Um, she knew definitely what she wanted, | 1:01:04 | 1:01:07 | |
and I really do wish - and I told her this already - | 1:01:07 | 1:01:10 | |
I wish that she would let us finish our thoughts | 1:01:10 | 1:01:13 | |
and finish our sentences. | 1:01:13 | 1:01:15 | |
Why wouldn't she let you finish your sentences or thoughts? | 1:01:15 | 1:01:17 | |
Cos she's very passionate, and she should be. | 1:01:17 | 1:01:20 | |
She's been in the entert... | 1:01:20 | 1:01:22 | |
Did you think it was wrong that she didn't? | 1:01:22 | 1:01:24 | |
I think that it would have benefited her | 1:01:24 | 1:01:27 | |
to listen a little bit more. | 1:01:27 | 1:01:28 | |
OK. | 1:01:30 | 1:01:31 | |
Let me ask you this, Maria. | 1:01:31 | 1:01:33 | |
You have a great personal style, according to everyone. | 1:01:33 | 1:01:35 | |
Who knows? But they say you have a great personal style. | 1:01:35 | 1:01:38 | |
Thank you. | 1:01:38 | 1:01:39 | |
Did Cyndi use you when it came to styling? | 1:01:39 | 1:01:42 | |
I kind of just inserted myself at the end. | 1:01:42 | 1:01:44 | |
I helped out with... | 1:01:44 | 1:01:46 | |
I sewed the dress | 1:01:46 | 1:01:48 | |
to make it a little bit tighter and more fitted. | 1:01:48 | 1:01:50 | |
I also made her push up the girls a little bit more | 1:01:50 | 1:01:52 | |
and helped her style her undergarments | 1:01:52 | 1:01:55 | |
so that they fit properly. | 1:01:55 | 1:01:57 | |
Good. So, Cyndi, did Maria help you? | 1:01:57 | 1:02:01 | |
She helped me, but sometimes she just sticks herself in there | 1:02:01 | 1:02:04 | |
when she shouldn't. | 1:02:04 | 1:02:05 | |
Overly aggressive? | 1:02:05 | 1:02:07 | |
No, no. It's not that. | 1:02:07 | 1:02:09 | |
She's compelled to do it, and I appreciate it, | 1:02:09 | 1:02:13 | |
but...for Emily, | 1:02:13 | 1:02:16 | |
she can have a little edge, | 1:02:16 | 1:02:17 | |
but too much edge doesn't match her music, | 1:02:17 | 1:02:21 | |
and that's what I was very clear about doing. | 1:02:21 | 1:02:23 | |
Maria, do you think they took the makeover far enough? | 1:02:23 | 1:02:26 | |
What do you think? | 1:02:26 | 1:02:26 | |
I do think that we could have taken it a little bit farther. | 1:02:26 | 1:02:29 | |
I think that we could have, you know, | 1:02:29 | 1:02:31 | |
done something a little edgier with her hair, | 1:02:31 | 1:02:33 | |
cos it ended up... her hair that she wore during the show | 1:02:33 | 1:02:36 | |
was pretty much the same that she usually wears. | 1:02:36 | 1:02:37 | |
Maria, why didn't you take it further? | 1:02:37 | 1:02:39 | |
If you think you could've taken it further, why didn't you? | 1:02:39 | 1:02:42 | |
Yeah, because you were in charge of the make-up and hair. | 1:02:42 | 1:02:44 | |
But you had very specific things that you... | 1:02:44 | 1:02:47 | |
Yeah, I gave them the picture, and when I came in, | 1:02:47 | 1:02:49 | |
her hair looked exactly the same way it looked when she... | 1:02:49 | 1:02:52 | |
the way she normally wears it. | 1:02:52 | 1:02:54 | |
But you said that you wanted it | 1:02:54 | 1:02:55 | |
to be loose and curls for the beginning. | 1:02:55 | 1:02:58 | |
Not parted in the middle. | 1:02:58 | 1:03:00 | |
-But she did... -It wasn't like the picture. | 1:03:00 | 1:03:02 | |
It wasn't like the picture at all. | 1:03:02 | 1:03:05 | |
So, Trace, what did you think of Emily? | 1:03:07 | 1:03:09 | |
Um, aside from the underwear, | 1:03:09 | 1:03:11 | |
which I will attest, | 1:03:11 | 1:03:13 | |
as an entertainer, you go on stage with the wrong underwear on, | 1:03:13 | 1:03:15 | |
and it's just going to mess the whole thing up. | 1:03:15 | 1:03:18 | |
Trace, you got to stop wearing those granny panties, right? | 1:03:18 | 1:03:20 | |
Yeah. See, you got be very careful about that. | 1:03:20 | 1:03:21 | |
Bridget Jones' knickers. | 1:03:21 | 1:03:24 | |
But Emily sang the way Emily always sings. She can wail. | 1:03:24 | 1:03:28 | |
Cyndi, who was your strongest player? | 1:03:28 | 1:03:30 | |
I thought all of them, except for this one. | 1:03:36 | 1:03:38 | |
Yeah, but you always tell me that. Except who? | 1:03:38 | 1:03:40 | |
No, no. Maria. Maria started to get on my nerves. | 1:03:40 | 1:03:43 | |
If I was in... | 1:03:43 | 1:03:45 | |
You don't like Maria much, actually. | 1:03:45 | 1:03:47 | |
I like her, but I think sometimes she speaks just to speak. | 1:03:47 | 1:03:52 | |
That's how I feel. | 1:03:52 | 1:03:53 | |
So, if I were going to fire someone if your team loses, | 1:03:53 | 1:03:56 | |
I would fire Maria, according to you. | 1:03:56 | 1:03:57 | |
I would. | 1:03:57 | 1:03:59 | |
OK | 1:04:01 | 1:04:02 | |
How do you respond to that, Maria? | 1:04:02 | 1:04:04 | |
She doesn't know what I've done, she doesn't know where I've been, | 1:04:06 | 1:04:10 | |
and, basically, she treated me like a child, | 1:04:10 | 1:04:12 | |
so I got defensive. | 1:04:12 | 1:04:14 | |
Are you disappointed with Cyndi, to a certain extent? | 1:04:14 | 1:04:18 | |
I'm very disappointed, because I had this... | 1:04:18 | 1:04:21 | |
this vision of my childhood idol that is being ruined, | 1:04:21 | 1:04:26 | |
and I'm just separating the two right now. | 1:04:26 | 1:04:28 | |
I'm just... Cyndi Lauper then and being this amazing singer | 1:04:28 | 1:04:33 | |
and this, you know, vision I had dancing around in my room | 1:04:33 | 1:04:35 | |
to Girls Just Wanna Have Fun, | 1:04:35 | 1:04:37 | |
to now, where it's kind of like Girls Just Wanna Be Mean. | 1:04:37 | 1:04:40 | |
-So it did put me on edge. -Do you think she's mean? | 1:04:40 | 1:04:42 | |
She was mean. | 1:04:44 | 1:04:46 | |
You know what? I'll send you a picture. | 1:04:46 | 1:04:48 | |
You can draw a dartboard and throw it. | 1:04:48 | 1:04:50 | |
And I understand you've done a lot. | 1:04:50 | 1:04:51 | |
Holly, you winced. What are you wincing about? | 1:04:51 | 1:04:54 | |
Oh, the only thing is, I do understand where Maria's coming from, | 1:04:54 | 1:04:57 | |
and there were moments where I felt Cyndi shut me down, | 1:04:57 | 1:04:59 | |
but, you know, in the end, she's the Project Manager, | 1:04:59 | 1:05:01 | |
and the reason why I winced is because when Maria said | 1:05:01 | 1:05:03 | |
that her childhood hero | 1:05:03 | 1:05:05 | |
was sort of, you know, being shattered or whatever... | 1:05:05 | 1:05:08 | |
It was a pretty tough statement. Sharon, you did the same thing. | 1:05:08 | 1:05:10 | |
You went, like, "Wow." That was a tough statement, right? | 1:05:10 | 1:05:12 | |
Yeah. But people always say that, Sharon. | 1:05:12 | 1:05:14 | |
But I... No, no. | 1:05:14 | 1:05:16 | |
I just don't think that... She's not come here as a fan. | 1:05:16 | 1:05:20 | |
-No. -So, nobody's illusion is, you know, is shattered. | 1:05:20 | 1:05:24 | |
But, Maria, you're disappointed by what's taken place. | 1:05:24 | 1:05:26 | |
Yeah, of course I am. | 1:05:26 | 1:05:27 | |
Sharon, now, you have been, as I understand it, | 1:05:31 | 1:05:33 | |
a great manager of talent over the years, right? | 1:05:33 | 1:05:35 | |
Greatest. | 1:05:35 | 1:05:36 | |
Did Cyndi ever ask you, "How do we manage this talent?" | 1:05:36 | 1:05:39 | |
She asked me what I felt about the photo shoot. | 1:05:39 | 1:05:42 | |
She asked me what I felt about the portrait shots. | 1:05:42 | 1:05:45 | |
-So, she respected your opinion? -Absolutely. | 1:05:45 | 1:05:47 | |
-OK. And you have no complaints about that? -No. | 1:05:47 | 1:05:49 | |
She's one of the greatest managers ever. | 1:05:49 | 1:05:51 | |
-I agree. -She's a brilliant... | 1:05:51 | 1:05:53 | |
-Just ask her husband. -Yeah. | 1:05:53 | 1:05:55 | |
As great as he is, without her, probably Ozzy's not Ozzy, right? | 1:05:55 | 1:05:59 | |
So, don't answer that, Sharon. I'll tell you that. | 1:05:59 | 1:06:01 | |
Goldberg, I'm just thinking, she is one of the greatest | 1:06:01 | 1:06:03 | |
show-business managers of all time. | 1:06:03 | 1:06:06 | |
Do you think you people had a disadvantage? | 1:06:06 | 1:06:08 | |
You know, there is no question | 1:06:09 | 1:06:12 | |
one of the best creative minds in music in Sharon. | 1:06:12 | 1:06:16 | |
There's also one of the most creative people in music, | 1:06:16 | 1:06:19 | |
which is Cyndi over there, | 1:06:19 | 1:06:21 | |
but I think we have a great combination of that | 1:06:21 | 1:06:24 | |
in my boy here. | 1:06:24 | 1:06:25 | |
-Thanks. -I... | 1:06:25 | 1:06:27 | |
Did Bret do a good job? | 1:06:27 | 1:06:29 | |
I think Bret did a great job, and everybody knows | 1:06:29 | 1:06:31 | |
that Bret is experiencing | 1:06:31 | 1:06:33 | |
a little bit of difficulty with his daughter. | 1:06:33 | 1:06:36 | |
How is that going? | 1:06:36 | 1:06:38 | |
Uh, I didn't get the answer I wanted to hear, | 1:06:38 | 1:06:40 | |
but it's...it went better than I was... | 1:06:40 | 1:06:42 | |
-But she's going to be fine. -She'll be fine. She'll be fine. | 1:06:42 | 1:06:44 | |
Go ahead, Goldberg. | 1:06:44 | 1:06:45 | |
As moronic as it was for me to | 1:06:45 | 1:06:48 | |
take over task management on this one, | 1:06:48 | 1:06:51 | |
um, I delegated most of the responsibilities - | 1:06:51 | 1:06:54 | |
I would say 95% of it - to Bret, | 1:06:54 | 1:06:57 | |
because that's what he does. | 1:06:57 | 1:06:58 | |
But if you're Project Manager - and I agree with delegation, | 1:06:58 | 1:07:01 | |
I think delegation's a great thing, | 1:07:01 | 1:07:03 | |
especially when you have somebody with expertise, as Bret does, | 1:07:03 | 1:07:06 | |
but when you say you delegated 95%, | 1:07:06 | 1:07:08 | |
that sounds like a lot. | 1:07:08 | 1:07:09 | |
Well, I might have been exaggerating a tiny bit. | 1:07:09 | 1:07:12 | |
-90%, right? -Maybe 87%. | 1:07:12 | 1:07:14 | |
Bret, were you the boss? | 1:07:14 | 1:07:17 | |
No, no, not at all. | 1:07:17 | 1:07:19 | |
Were you the one that really ran things? | 1:07:19 | 1:07:21 | |
I was the assistant Project Manager. | 1:07:21 | 1:07:23 | |
Yeah, except they were your ideas. | 1:07:23 | 1:07:25 | |
Right. | 1:07:25 | 1:07:26 | |
I honestly was shocked when we gave you the task | 1:07:26 | 1:07:30 | |
and everybody just pointed at Goldberg, | 1:07:30 | 1:07:33 | |
because, I mean, the logical choice was Bret. | 1:07:33 | 1:07:37 | |
I mean, I don't understand why, Bret, | 1:07:37 | 1:07:39 | |
you didn't just step up and go, "This is mine." | 1:07:39 | 1:07:42 | |
This is why we did it - his charity deserves a chance, | 1:07:42 | 1:07:44 | |
as all of ours does, and that's why we did it, | 1:07:44 | 1:07:46 | |
and I knew I'd have his back. | 1:07:46 | 1:07:48 | |
Bret, let me ask you this. You wear the bandana. | 1:07:48 | 1:07:50 | |
I don't even know what's under that bandana. | 1:07:50 | 1:07:52 | |
But...why didn't you have Luke wear a bandana? | 1:07:52 | 1:07:57 | |
It's sort of cool. You know, I mean, if I were in your business, | 1:07:57 | 1:07:59 | |
I think I'd wear a bandana, too. I'd probably do it like that. | 1:07:59 | 1:08:01 | |
Right. I'd wear a bandana. I think it's cool. | 1:08:01 | 1:08:04 | |
It's like Trace wears the hat. | 1:08:04 | 1:08:05 | |
I think there's something cool about that, right? | 1:08:05 | 1:08:06 | |
But he always wears a hat. | 1:08:06 | 1:08:08 | |
Would Luke have been good with a bandana? | 1:08:08 | 1:08:11 | |
Um, I do... Luke would not have been good with a bandana. | 1:08:11 | 1:08:14 | |
I know a little bit about Luke, and I asked him immediately, | 1:08:14 | 1:08:17 | |
"Where are you at in your life? Where are you going? | 1:08:17 | 1:08:20 | |
"What do you want to be perceived as?," Right? | 1:08:20 | 1:08:22 | |
Because the first thing you got to do with any real artist | 1:08:22 | 1:08:24 | |
is you got to find out where their heart is. | 1:08:24 | 1:08:26 | |
I can... I can tell him to do anything. I could... | 1:08:26 | 1:08:28 | |
You know, I could've told him, "Wear this. Do that," | 1:08:28 | 1:08:31 | |
and if he feels uncomfortable when he goes on that stage, | 1:08:31 | 1:08:33 | |
he is going to be awful. We know that. | 1:08:33 | 1:08:35 | |
OK. Give them each other's little promo kit, if you would. | 1:08:37 | 1:08:41 | |
I'd like to hear what you think. | 1:08:41 | 1:08:43 | |
It's very good. | 1:08:54 | 1:08:55 | |
It's beautiful, ladies. | 1:09:03 | 1:09:05 | |
And they put a picture on the inside. | 1:09:06 | 1:09:08 | |
They did a much better job. | 1:09:09 | 1:09:12 | |
Much better job. | 1:09:12 | 1:09:13 | |
I think bandanas are cool. | 1:09:13 | 1:09:15 | |
I think if I were in that business, I'd wear a bandana. | 1:09:15 | 1:09:18 | |
Lucky for me, you're not in this business. | 1:09:18 | 1:09:20 | |
What do you think of their work? | 1:09:22 | 1:09:24 | |
I think it's beautiful. I think it's beautiful. | 1:09:24 | 1:09:26 | |
-Is she beautiful? -Oh, no question about it. | 1:09:26 | 1:09:29 | |
Let me just see it. I haven't even seen it. | 1:09:29 | 1:09:31 | |
She's got beautiful eyes, like, her face. | 1:09:31 | 1:09:33 | |
-I think she's awesome. -She's amazing. | 1:09:33 | 1:09:35 | |
-I really do. -You think Emily's amazing. | 1:09:35 | 1:09:36 | |
Then I think you did a really bad job with this picture. | 1:09:36 | 1:09:38 | |
No, no, that's not airbrushed at all. | 1:09:38 | 1:09:40 | |
-That's not touched up. Not touched up at all. -I hope not. | 1:09:40 | 1:09:42 | |
Trace, do you like Emily, or do you like Luke's work, | 1:09:42 | 1:09:45 | |
in terms of the brochures? | 1:09:45 | 1:09:47 | |
What do you like better? | 1:09:47 | 1:09:49 | |
Well, I... I think the one they did for Emily | 1:09:49 | 1:09:52 | |
-is a little more polished. -You're obviously not a skin man. | 1:09:52 | 1:09:55 | |
I didn't look that close. | 1:09:57 | 1:09:58 | |
You know, there are some men that don't care about skin. | 1:09:58 | 1:10:00 | |
I didn't look at it with a magnifying glass like you did. | 1:10:00 | 1:10:02 | |
No, but you would touch this up. | 1:10:02 | 1:10:04 | |
-Well, it's a little late, right? -You can't...in one hour? | 1:10:04 | 1:10:06 | |
Wouldn't you touch it up before you show it to me? | 1:10:06 | 1:10:08 | |
You know, I've learned, Trace is not a skin man, which is OK. | 1:10:08 | 1:10:10 | |
-There you go. All right. -I wish I wasn't. | 1:10:10 | 1:10:13 | |
And, Maria, please have your mole removed | 1:10:13 | 1:10:15 | |
off your frickin' chin. | 1:10:15 | 1:10:16 | |
OK. All right. | 1:10:16 | 1:10:17 | |
All right, let me see the other one. | 1:10:20 | 1:10:21 | |
So, Luke is, uh... He's a nice-looking guy. | 1:10:25 | 1:10:29 | |
Guys aren't my thing. | 1:10:29 | 1:10:30 | |
-Well, join the club, except for Bret. -Oh. | 1:10:30 | 1:10:33 | |
See, I happen to think he'd look better in a bandana. | 1:10:35 | 1:10:38 | |
Enough with the bandana thing. | 1:10:38 | 1:10:40 | |
No, but...but, seriously, | 1:10:40 | 1:10:42 | |
I think this guy would look great in a bandana. | 1:10:42 | 1:10:44 | |
Trace, what did you think? | 1:10:48 | 1:10:49 | |
So, I was just curious, Rocksolid, | 1:10:49 | 1:10:52 | |
how far would Luke actually let you go? | 1:10:52 | 1:10:57 | |
Luke didn't want to go very far. | 1:10:57 | 1:10:59 | |
He... I mean, just getting him to open up to use, | 1:10:59 | 1:11:01 | |
like, the necklace, I mean, I found it was, like... | 1:11:01 | 1:11:03 | |
Isn't that disrespectful to you, though? You guys are professionals. | 1:11:03 | 1:11:05 | |
I got to be honest with you. He was really trying. | 1:11:05 | 1:11:07 | |
For him to give that little bit... | 1:11:07 | 1:11:09 | |
He did get him to do something. I mean, I'm familiar with Luke, | 1:11:09 | 1:11:12 | |
and when I saw him on stage without a ball cap on... | 1:11:12 | 1:11:15 | |
He never goes on stage without wearing a baseball cap. | 1:11:15 | 1:11:18 | |
A baseball cap isn't the same thing, though, right? Is it? | 1:11:18 | 1:11:22 | |
It's different when you don't have one on. | 1:11:22 | 1:11:24 | |
One problem that we had | 1:11:24 | 1:11:25 | |
was that Luke is an established singer. | 1:11:25 | 1:11:28 | |
He's been around for a while, | 1:11:28 | 1:11:29 | |
and we thought we were getting a clay mould | 1:11:29 | 1:11:32 | |
that we could give advice to and go in that direction. | 1:11:32 | 1:11:35 | |
-And he would not take your advice? -No. He took some of our advice. | 1:11:35 | 1:11:38 | |
Don't you think you could have forced him? | 1:11:38 | 1:11:39 | |
-He never wanted to smile. -Yeah, but, Goldberg, | 1:11:39 | 1:11:40 | |
couldn't you have forced him to take your advice? | 1:11:40 | 1:11:43 | |
He never in a million years would've walked in | 1:11:43 | 1:11:45 | |
with anything resembling this clothing, | 1:11:45 | 1:11:47 | |
in a million years. | 1:11:47 | 1:11:48 | |
We did push him, Mr Trump. | 1:11:48 | 1:11:50 | |
We pushed him. And you know what? | 1:11:50 | 1:11:51 | |
He did... | 1:11:51 | 1:11:53 | |
So, do you resent the fact that he wouldn't listen to you? | 1:11:53 | 1:11:54 | |
Absolutely not, because if I would have made him listen to me, | 1:11:54 | 1:11:57 | |
it would have made him very uncomfortable in his performance. | 1:11:57 | 1:12:00 | |
Sharon, does Luke have star potential? | 1:12:01 | 1:12:03 | |
I don't know, cos I... I swear to you, | 1:12:03 | 1:12:06 | |
I haven't heard him sing. | 1:12:06 | 1:12:07 | |
OK. Could you make him a star? | 1:12:07 | 1:12:09 | |
You'd have to have somebody that's willing to change. | 1:12:09 | 1:12:12 | |
But do you think he has the charisma, | 1:12:12 | 1:12:14 | |
or do you think you could give him the charis... | 1:12:14 | 1:12:16 | |
Charisma's very hard to give. It's very hard. | 1:12:16 | 1:12:18 | |
People either have it, or they don't. | 1:12:18 | 1:12:19 | |
You've either got it, or you don't. | 1:12:19 | 1:12:20 | |
And you either are... You're special, | 1:12:20 | 1:12:22 | |
or you're not special. | 1:12:22 | 1:12:23 | |
It's a tough game. | 1:12:23 | 1:12:25 | |
It's a really tough game. | 1:12:25 | 1:12:27 | |
Do I have star potential? | 1:12:27 | 1:12:29 | |
-Abso... -BLEEP -..lutely. | 1:12:29 | 1:12:30 | |
-You better -BLEEP -believe it. | 1:12:30 | 1:12:31 | |
So, Sharon, what do you think of their work? | 1:12:33 | 1:12:36 | |
Cos I think it's very good. | 1:12:36 | 1:12:38 | |
I think it's a great package. Very good. | 1:12:38 | 1:12:39 | |
-Do you think it's better than yours? -Yes. Yeah. | 1:12:39 | 1:12:41 | |
-I do. -It's more informative. | 1:12:41 | 1:12:43 | |
I do, but it's not up to me. It's up to the executives. | 1:12:43 | 1:12:48 | |
And the fact is, the music-industry insiders | 1:12:48 | 1:12:53 | |
really preferred the men's promo kit better. | 1:12:53 | 1:12:55 | |
However, that's not the only criteria. | 1:12:58 | 1:13:01 | |
OK? | 1:13:01 | 1:13:03 | |
Don, do you have anything else to say? | 1:13:03 | 1:13:05 | |
Well, for the women, | 1:13:05 | 1:13:07 | |
the industry insiders thought Emily came across more polished | 1:13:07 | 1:13:11 | |
than she had been before. | 1:13:11 | 1:13:12 | |
The makeover was transforming, and it allowed her | 1:13:12 | 1:13:14 | |
to really shine in her interview with People magazine. | 1:13:14 | 1:13:17 | |
So, on the criteria of overall makeover, the women did better. | 1:13:17 | 1:13:21 | |
But again, that's just a small portion of it. | 1:13:21 | 1:13:25 | |
It all comes down to who gave their artist | 1:13:25 | 1:13:28 | |
a better shot at breaking out. | 1:13:28 | 1:13:30 | |
Trace, who did the music insiders think | 1:13:30 | 1:13:34 | |
and tell you is the winning team? | 1:13:34 | 1:13:37 | |
Well, I talked to all three - | 1:13:39 | 1:13:42 | |
the disc jockey, the journalist from People, | 1:13:42 | 1:13:44 | |
and Pete Fisher, | 1:13:44 | 1:13:46 | |
the general manager of the Grand Ole Opry, | 1:13:46 | 1:13:48 | |
and they were all unanimous. | 1:13:48 | 1:13:49 | |
And they thought that the ladies won. | 1:13:53 | 1:13:55 | |
Thank you, and thank you, True Colours. | 1:13:55 | 1:13:56 | |
Thank you, True Colours. | 1:13:56 | 1:13:58 | |
Cyndi, what is your charity? | 1:13:58 | 1:14:00 | |
The Stonewall Community Foundation | 1:14:00 | 1:14:03 | |
in support of the True Colours Fund | 1:14:03 | 1:14:05 | |
to promote awareness about the civil rights | 1:14:05 | 1:14:08 | |
that the lesbian, gay, transgender, and bisexual people | 1:14:08 | 1:14:13 | |
-do not have in this country. -Well, as winning Project Manager, | 1:14:13 | 1:14:16 | |
you're going to get 20,000. | 1:14:16 | 1:14:18 | |
Thank you. Thank you. | 1:14:18 | 1:14:20 | |
In addition to that, Emily West and Luke Bryan | 1:14:20 | 1:14:23 | |
will donate all proceeds | 1:14:23 | 1:14:25 | |
from the next month of sales at iTunes | 1:14:25 | 1:14:27 | |
of their singles Blue Sky and Rain To your charity. | 1:14:27 | 1:14:31 | |
-So, that could be a lot of money. -Wow. | 1:14:31 | 1:14:33 | |
So, I congratulate you very much. | 1:14:33 | 1:14:35 | |
-It could be quite a bit. -Thank you. | 1:14:35 | 1:14:37 | |
All right, Cyndi. Get out of here. | 1:14:39 | 1:14:41 | |
All right. I'm out of here. | 1:14:41 | 1:14:42 | |
All right, men. Unfortunately, somebody will be fired. | 1:14:49 | 1:14:52 | |
Thank you all, and I know you think | 1:15:06 | 1:15:08 | |
I'm a big fat pain in the ass and that I was... | 1:15:08 | 1:15:09 | |
I am, too. | 1:15:09 | 1:15:11 | |
Yeah, you are, but I love you. | 1:15:11 | 1:15:12 | |
I know you have... You mean well, | 1:15:12 | 1:15:14 | |
and I'm sorry that your dream of me was tarnished, | 1:15:14 | 1:15:18 | |
but there is one thing I can always tell you. | 1:15:18 | 1:15:20 | |
Never meet the person you really admire all your life... | 1:15:20 | 1:15:24 | |
I should have called first. | 1:15:24 | 1:15:26 | |
cos you're always going to be disappointed. | 1:15:26 | 1:15:28 | |
Can we put the TV on? | 1:15:29 | 1:15:30 | |
-Here we go, guys. -I feel bad for these guys. | 1:15:31 | 1:15:35 | |
Goldberg, do you regret the fact | 1:15:35 | 1:15:38 | |
that you sort of volunteered to be Project Manager? | 1:15:38 | 1:15:41 | |
You know, I'll be perfectly honest with you. | 1:15:41 | 1:15:43 | |
I thought it was time for me to step up. | 1:15:43 | 1:15:44 | |
I was the only team member who hadn't been Project Manager, | 1:15:44 | 1:15:47 | |
and I knew that I could delegate most of the responsibilities | 1:15:47 | 1:15:51 | |
to the man who knows the business. | 1:15:51 | 1:15:54 | |
Do you think you did a good job as Project Manager? | 1:15:54 | 1:15:57 | |
You know, um... | 1:15:58 | 1:16:00 | |
Obviously, I didn't do a good enough job to win. | 1:16:00 | 1:16:03 | |
Bret, if you were me, who would you fire? | 1:16:04 | 1:16:07 | |
I don't want to go home, but I'll tell you what... | 1:16:09 | 1:16:11 | |
I took the responsibility. | 1:16:11 | 1:16:13 | |
And I... These guys worked their butts off, | 1:16:13 | 1:16:16 | |
but I was responsible. | 1:16:16 | 1:16:18 | |
I thought we won. I thought, hands down, we won. | 1:16:18 | 1:16:20 | |
Curtis, who do you think should be fired? | 1:16:20 | 1:16:23 | |
That's a really line ball, Mr Trump. | 1:16:29 | 1:16:31 | |
Go ahead, tell me. Who would you fire? | 1:16:31 | 1:16:33 | |
Just say it. | 1:16:33 | 1:16:35 | |
I'd fire Bret. | 1:16:35 | 1:16:36 | |
Why? | 1:16:37 | 1:16:38 | |
Because I think he did take on the responsibility. | 1:16:40 | 1:16:43 | |
And I don't want to say that. I don't think you did a bad job. | 1:16:43 | 1:16:45 | |
-No, say it. -I think you did as good as you could. | 1:16:45 | 1:16:47 | |
Yeah, but he wasn't the Project Manager, | 1:16:48 | 1:16:50 | |
and it wasn't really his job. | 1:16:50 | 1:16:51 | |
It was being delegated to him, | 1:16:51 | 1:16:53 | |
and everybody tells me he did a really good job, | 1:16:53 | 1:16:56 | |
and, therefore, Goldberg could also get credit, | 1:16:56 | 1:16:58 | |
maybe for delegating. | 1:16:58 | 1:17:00 | |
Curtis, what did you contribute? | 1:17:00 | 1:17:02 | |
I tried to keep us on schedule, | 1:17:02 | 1:17:04 | |
and that's always tough with our team. | 1:17:04 | 1:17:06 | |
We're only three people, so, obviously, we're undermanned. | 1:17:06 | 1:17:09 | |
And I do find it a little bit tough with Bret sometimes | 1:17:09 | 1:17:12 | |
to keep him focused, in terms of when our deadlines are. | 1:17:12 | 1:17:16 | |
And I think you've done a much better job, Bret. | 1:17:16 | 1:17:20 | |
I honestly do, and I hope | 1:17:20 | 1:17:21 | |
you don't take this the wrong way, mate, | 1:17:21 | 1:17:23 | |
because I really think you worked as hard as you possibly could, | 1:17:23 | 1:17:26 | |
but there's difficulty. | 1:17:26 | 1:17:27 | |
He's very creative, and he tends to go on, | 1:17:27 | 1:17:29 | |
and, you know, he'll be asking a question, | 1:17:29 | 1:17:31 | |
then he'll start telling a story, | 1:17:31 | 1:17:32 | |
and by the time he's asked the question, | 1:17:32 | 1:17:34 | |
you know, we've wasted a bit of time, | 1:17:34 | 1:17:35 | |
which you can't afford to do when you've only got three players. | 1:17:35 | 1:17:37 | |
Oh, boy. Here we go. | 1:17:37 | 1:17:39 | |
Well... | 1:17:39 | 1:17:40 | |
It's a creative thing. | 1:17:40 | 1:17:41 | |
It is. | 1:17:41 | 1:17:43 | |
It is totally a creative thing. | 1:17:43 | 1:17:44 | |
Hard game for creative people. | 1:17:44 | 1:17:46 | |
But Bret did a good job. | 1:17:46 | 1:17:48 | |
Bill, you've been a pretty tough leader throughout a lot of this, | 1:17:49 | 1:17:52 | |
even though you haven't been the PM Yet. | 1:17:52 | 1:17:54 | |
Now, do you think it was a tactical error, perhaps, | 1:17:54 | 1:17:56 | |
on your part, not stepping up earlier | 1:17:56 | 1:17:58 | |
to be the Project Manager, | 1:17:58 | 1:18:00 | |
where you could have given something like this to Bret? | 1:18:00 | 1:18:02 | |
Um...maybe. | 1:18:06 | 1:18:08 | |
Maybe just kind of free-riding for a little bit, little bit, | 1:18:08 | 1:18:10 | |
and then broke your stride | 1:18:10 | 1:18:12 | |
in a task that wasn't good for you to be PM? | 1:18:12 | 1:18:13 | |
I don't free-ride in anything, man. | 1:18:13 | 1:18:15 | |
You know me better than that. | 1:18:15 | 1:18:16 | |
I don't free-ride, OK? | 1:18:16 | 1:18:18 | |
That's not my job. That's not what I do, OK? | 1:18:18 | 1:18:22 | |
The fact is that I stepped up | 1:18:22 | 1:18:24 | |
because I was under the assumption... | 1:18:24 | 1:18:25 | |
Well, you know, you're saying that to Don, | 1:18:25 | 1:18:27 | |
but in all fairness, you appointed somebody | 1:18:27 | 1:18:30 | |
and you said he did 95% of the work and the thinking. | 1:18:30 | 1:18:33 | |
So, wouldn't you say that's a free ride? | 1:18:33 | 1:18:35 | |
I was... I was mistaken | 1:18:35 | 1:18:38 | |
as to the percentage of delegation. | 1:18:38 | 1:18:40 | |
But you're saying you don't free-ride, | 1:18:40 | 1:18:41 | |
and yet you appointed him, and you said before... | 1:18:41 | 1:18:43 | |
I think I'm correct - I have a great memory. | 1:18:43 | 1:18:46 | |
You said 95% of the work was done by Bret. | 1:18:46 | 1:18:49 | |
I was wrong. | 1:18:50 | 1:18:51 | |
It wasn't 95% of the work. | 1:18:51 | 1:18:53 | |
Well, what was it? It had to be a lot. | 1:18:53 | 1:18:54 | |
Then you said it was 87 after that. | 1:18:54 | 1:18:56 | |
He did probably 70% of the work, OK? | 1:18:56 | 1:19:00 | |
Now, the reality is, he has the vision... | 1:19:00 | 1:19:02 | |
Well, that's a lot. Wouldn't you say that's a lot? | 1:19:02 | 1:19:05 | |
You're Project Manager. I mean, that's a lot. | 1:19:05 | 1:19:07 | |
You know, Mr Trump, | 1:19:07 | 1:19:08 | |
I've been hit in the head a lot of times, | 1:19:08 | 1:19:10 | |
so maybe my math is off, OK? | 1:19:10 | 1:19:13 | |
But as far as the three of us are concerned, | 1:19:13 | 1:19:16 | |
this was Bret's area of expertise. | 1:19:16 | 1:19:20 | |
Would you rather have me fire Bret | 1:19:20 | 1:19:22 | |
because he did a lot of work, even though it was good work | 1:19:22 | 1:19:25 | |
and we all admit that and we all agree with that, | 1:19:25 | 1:19:27 | |
or yourself because you're Project Manager? | 1:19:27 | 1:19:31 | |
That's your decision. | 1:19:31 | 1:19:32 | |
It is my decision, and I'm going to make the decision, | 1:19:32 | 1:19:35 | |
but do you think I should fire you, as Project Manager, | 1:19:35 | 1:19:39 | |
or Bret? | 1:19:39 | 1:19:40 | |
And I'm going to leave the other guy out | 1:19:40 | 1:19:43 | |
because, to be honest with you, | 1:19:43 | 1:19:44 | |
I don't think he comes into play right now. | 1:19:44 | 1:19:46 | |
What would you say? | 1:19:46 | 1:19:47 | |
You were Project Manager. You appointed somebody. | 1:19:47 | 1:19:50 | |
You said he did 95%, 75%, 80%, all different numbers. | 1:19:50 | 1:19:54 | |
But it doesn't matter. He did a lot of the work. | 1:19:54 | 1:19:56 | |
Would you say that that person should be fired, | 1:19:57 | 1:19:59 | |
if you were me, | 1:19:59 | 1:20:01 | |
or should the Project Manager, you, be fired? | 1:20:01 | 1:20:03 | |
Depends on your opinion. | 1:20:04 | 1:20:06 | |
Well, what's your opinion? | 1:20:06 | 1:20:08 | |
I think I was wrong stepping up in the first place. | 1:20:10 | 1:20:13 | |
-Which is a reason to be fired. -But I... | 1:20:13 | 1:20:14 | |
Maybe it is. | 1:20:15 | 1:20:17 | |
I think, frankly, Bret should have been Project Manager. | 1:20:17 | 1:20:19 | |
I was unfortunately misinformed by my own stupidity | 1:20:21 | 1:20:26 | |
in that I figured that, | 1:20:26 | 1:20:28 | |
since I hadn't been Project Manager, | 1:20:28 | 1:20:30 | |
I had to step up. And as a man, I stepped up. | 1:20:30 | 1:20:34 | |
But I think you were wrong in that decision, also. | 1:20:34 | 1:20:36 | |
But like I said, that's what I thought was supposed to happen. | 1:20:36 | 1:20:39 | |
I know, as a man, but, you know, | 1:20:39 | 1:20:40 | |
this isn't about being a man or being anything. | 1:20:40 | 1:20:41 | |
This is about making the right business decision. | 1:20:41 | 1:20:43 | |
Then I made the wrong decision. | 1:20:43 | 1:20:44 | |
You did make the wrong decision. | 1:20:44 | 1:20:46 | |
All right. Goldberg, you're fired. | 1:20:46 | 1:20:48 | |
-Thank you. -Thank you. | 1:20:53 | 1:20:54 | |
I'll see you later. I appreciate the opportunity. | 1:20:54 | 1:20:56 | |
Thank you very much. | 1:20:56 | 1:20:57 | |
Bill, I feel sick in my stomach. | 1:20:57 | 1:20:59 | |
Just get out of here, Bret. You won. Don't feel sick. | 1:20:59 | 1:21:01 | |
You should feel good. You shouldn't feel sick. | 1:21:03 | 1:21:06 | |
I feel... I feel great. I just lost my friend, though. | 1:21:06 | 1:21:08 | |
Love you, guys. Love you, Bill. | 1:21:15 | 1:21:16 | |
It was a pleasure, really. | 1:21:16 | 1:21:18 | |
And you know what? Kick some ass, will you? | 1:21:18 | 1:21:19 | |
You know we will. You know we will. | 1:21:19 | 1:21:21 | |
All right. Appreciate it. | 1:21:21 | 1:21:22 | |
I'll see you later, man. Go home and see your son. | 1:21:22 | 1:21:24 | |
I think we made the right decision. | 1:21:36 | 1:21:37 | |
What do you think, Trace? | 1:21:37 | 1:21:38 | |
I don't think so. | 1:21:38 | 1:21:40 | |
You would have fired... | 1:21:41 | 1:21:42 | |
-Bret. -Really? | 1:21:42 | 1:21:43 | |
-What do you think, Don? -Yeah, I'm with you. | 1:21:43 | 1:21:45 | |
I think the Project Manager | 1:21:45 | 1:21:46 | |
still has to make the final decisions. | 1:21:46 | 1:21:47 | |
Even if he's taking advice | 1:21:47 | 1:21:48 | |
from someone who knows what they're doing, | 1:21:48 | 1:21:50 | |
he's got to make the call. | 1:21:50 | 1:21:51 | |
He didn't make the right call. | 1:21:51 | 1:21:52 | |
I point-blank asked the industry insiders | 1:21:52 | 1:21:55 | |
who they thought the Project Manager was, | 1:21:55 | 1:21:57 | |
and they all said Bret. | 1:21:57 | 1:21:58 | |
-Well, yeah, but isn't that the PM's mistake? -I know. | 1:21:58 | 1:22:00 | |
If he didn't step up enough... | 1:22:00 | 1:22:02 | |
Well, you know, one of the reasons I did that | 1:22:02 | 1:22:04 | |
is because he should not have been the Project Manager. | 1:22:04 | 1:22:06 | |
He should not. The mistake was made yesterday morning. | 1:22:06 | 1:22:08 | |
He wanted to be Project Manager. | 1:22:08 | 1:22:09 | |
He shouldn't have chosen this task. | 1:22:09 | 1:22:11 | |
-He should not have. -And that's the primary reason I fired him. | 1:22:11 | 1:22:14 | |
Being on that side of the table... | 1:22:14 | 1:22:15 | |
-Does that make you feel better? -Yes. | 1:22:15 | 1:22:16 | |
Good. Now I feel better. | 1:22:16 | 1:22:18 | |
Good. | 1:22:18 | 1:22:19 | |
Obviously, if you're as competitive a person as I am, | 1:22:51 | 1:22:54 | |
you want to win everything, but at the end of the day, | 1:22:54 | 1:22:57 | |
I think Donald makes his own decisions | 1:22:57 | 1:22:59 | |
based upon what he believes is right. | 1:22:59 | 1:23:02 | |
I take full responsibility for my team losing | 1:23:02 | 1:23:04 | |
because I was the Project Manager, no question. | 1:23:04 | 1:23:07 | |
If I didn't take full responsibility for my team losing, | 1:23:07 | 1:23:09 | |
-then I wouldn't be in the -BLEEP -car. | 1:23:09 | 1:23:11 |