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-On zee Graham Norton Show tonight.

-A brilliant actress.

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A singer most incroyable.

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An hilarious actor.

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And zee world's most famous fashion designer. Oh, it's no good.

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I can't keep up this silly French accent, can you?

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-What silly French accent?

-Let's start the show!

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APPLAUSE

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This programme contains some strong language

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Thank you very much. Thank you.

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Very kind, thank you very much.

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Hello, good evening, welcome, bonjour tout le monde.

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Something for everyone on my sofa tonight.

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Yes, my favourite TV detective, DCI Vera herself,

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Brenda Blethyn is here!

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APPLAUSE

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Fashion icon Jean Paul Gaultier is on the show!

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APPLAUSE

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I know. That's what you wore!

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And star of Episodes and Green Wing,

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the hilarious Stephen Mangan is here!

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APPLAUSE

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Plus, ladies and gentleman,

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a true showbiz legend, performing one of his greatest hits,

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He not only writes the songs, he sings them as well,

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it is Mr Barry Manilow! On this show!

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I know!

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Lovely.

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Of course, I'll be talking to Jean Paul Gaultier about the infamous

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conical bra he designed for Madonna.

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Do you know what, it looks good on Madonna, doesn't it?

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Less good on other women.

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That's a hard one to wear.

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The great thing about fashion designers like Jean Paul is

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that they're full of brilliant, simple ideas

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for everyday things to wear, chilling out at home...

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Going to the office...

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A spot of gardening, you know.

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Just throw it in the washing machine.

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Back in the '90s, Jean Paul also championed the kilt.

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There he is in his kilt. Yeah, and everyone was wearing them.

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Looking good, Barry Manilow!

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Tell you. There he is at the start of the gig.

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Here he is at the end. Oh!

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I can see his Copacabana!

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Barry and Brenda are both such icons.

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Barry of Las Vegas, and, thanks to Vera, Brenda of Newcastle.

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They're not so different. Vegas has hotels.

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So does Newcastle.

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Vegas has gambling.

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So does Newcastle.

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Vegas has scantily clad singers.

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And so does Newcastle.

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APPLAUSE

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I'll also be chatting to Stephen Mangan about his new role as Postman Pat.

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Someone close to Postman Pat is hell bent on world domination.

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Don't want to give away any spoilers,

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but here's Pat's black and white cat.

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That's all coming up later,

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plus more of your stories in the red chair.

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Let's get some guests on.

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Later, I'll be having chat and music from Barry Manilow!

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First, it's Stephen Mangan.

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APPLAUSE

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It's Jean Paul Gaultier!

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APPLAUSE

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Asseyez-vous!

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And it's time to say "aloe Vera" - it's Brenda Blethyn!

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Beautiful. Beautiful. Hello, my darling.

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Welcome all. Lovely to see you all.

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Now, Jean Paul, if at any moment you are lost in the programme

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or aren't following things, Brenda Blethyn speaks French fluently.

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-Absolument.

-Perfect.

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-You do, don't you?

-No!

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-You do a bit!

-I do a bit! I'm just learning.

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I found this wonderful teacher in Ramsgate and she's teaching me.

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I'm making a film entirely in French at the end of the year. My God.

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You have to learn quickly, no?

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Yes, yes. Keep talking to me.

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Oui...

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It starts well. "Oui" is already there.

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Stephen, you've done a French accent, in Chunky Monkey?

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Yes, with Alison Steadman I played a French cabaret singer.

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He was a bit of a love God, he thought he was a love God.

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French is tough. It's a tough accent to do.

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I just mumbled a lot and hoped I got away with it.

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"You are so beautiful." That sort of thing. Oui, oui, oui.

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I understand better, to be honest.

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Brenda, were you worried when you heard Jean Paul was on the show?

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-Of course.

-I think you look nice.

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She looks fabulous. I love the jewellery.

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-Thank you.

-Very elegant, classy.

-Stephen?

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Fabulous, I love the blue and I love the shoes.

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Shiny, look at myself.

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They are superb.

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Of the four of us, you look like you made the least effort.

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I'm feeling like we needn't have bothered.

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"Jean Paul is coming... Really?"

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-Stephen, do you know who you are wearing?

-This is Spencer Hart.

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I did catch a look in the mirror on the way in

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and it looks like I work for Lufthansa.

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I should be serving drinks.

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I thought it was a nod to Postman Pat.

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It's the Royal Mail blue.

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It has a bit of Pat about it.

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Total fluke, but it does, now you say that.

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I thought it was good!

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I don't want to put you on the spot, Jean Paul,

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but if you were going to design a costume

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for, say, a high-ranking, powerful police detective,

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a female detective, no nonsense attitude, great mind,

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how are you seeing her?

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-What sort of outfit?

-A detective?

-Yes, very powerful, very clever.

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No nonsense.

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I should like to make like a version,

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like a feminine version of Sherlock Holmes image, no?

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-Who?

-Sherlock Holmes.

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He's a very famous detective.

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Corsetry, Sherlock Holmes type of...

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Or something about a trench coat.

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-This may help you.

-Trench coat.

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Did you, in your mind's eye, see this at all?

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Nothing to change. Perfect.

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-Excellent. Perfect detective.

-Where did you find that hat?

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I have never seen the like.

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It looks like the sort of thing you get to go on safari

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and even then you don't wear it.

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I found it in a fishing shop in Newcastle.

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It is all your own work?

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-Yeah. That hat is.

-Good stylist.

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I thought I'd lost it in the middle of the last series.

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There were ructions trying to find it.

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We'd already shot some scenes with it on, so we had to find it.

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We did find it,

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but meanwhile, I'd bought another four. Just to be on the safe side.

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You wouldn't have thought that outfit was high fashion in any way.

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But then your friend...

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Yeah, he was on a theatre tour in Italy

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and there was a whole window display.

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It was like Vera standing in the window.

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He took a picture of this.

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It's like you're a trendsetter.

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You've inspired designers' collections.

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-"We've gone Vera."

-Are you wearing Vera?

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Currently on Sundays, ITV at 8pm, I love this show.

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It's one of those shows you just, "Oh, good, that's on."

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Is it true, when you were reading the script,

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you were waiting for the part you were playing to show up?

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Yeah, I didn't know, from the novels of Ann Cleeves,

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I didn't know her work.

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I hadn't got a script yet, I rushed out and got the books.

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I was halfway through before this character came in.

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I thought, where is she? It was a tiny part.

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Then it says, "The door of the church opened and in lumbered

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"the scruffiest woman ever, with carrier bags, like a bag lady.

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"She was huge." I thought, that can't be her.

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I thought they're offering me like a Jane Tennyson.

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Why have they thought of me for this part? It was a bit shocking.

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Then I read on and I loved the character.

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Obviously, because of the books, that's why it's in Newcastle.

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-Did you think, Geordie, no problem, Brenda can do that?

-No.

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I never think that. I had to work at it.

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-You hadn't done it before?

-No.

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Can you give Jean Paul a bit of Geordie.

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You have to coach me.

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-DCI...

-DCI.

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Vera Stanhope.

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-Huh?

-Vera.

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-Dera.

-Vera.

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-Dera.

-Vera!

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Vera.

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-Stanhope.

-Stanhope.

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Let's just applaud that and say it was very good.

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APPLAUSE

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Let's hear Brenda in action.

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This is a clip from this Sunday's episode of Vera.

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Right, door knocking round the parish, house to house, pub,

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Post Office, if they've still got one.

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All the usual standard questions, did they know him,

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what did he do, and when did you last see him?

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-At this stage, let's say missing.

-Village folk will believe anything.

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He's right. They'll all know.

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Here we go. Uses of hair.

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Voodoo, wig making.

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Crop protection, acts as a repellent.

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Explains a lot, our Ken.

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Against deer. They won't go near anything that smells of people.

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If hair repels them and fodder attracts,

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confuse the beast, you've got him where you want him, right?

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With me.

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APPLAUSE

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That's so beautiful. That part of the world is gorgeous.

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How did they make your hair look that bad?

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Well, actually, it shouldn't really look that bad.

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I made a film in New Mexico and I had my hair bleached white for it.

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And it all broke off. It started snapping.

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So when it was dyed... It's been dyed,

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because I start series five in a couple of weeks.

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But it kept snapping off.

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So it looked like a rat had been gnawing it.

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Now, we know how good Brenda is at accents.

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Your American accent, we heard that in a River Runs Through it,

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which was flawless, with Brad Pitt, no less.

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Films are fake but this really was filmed in the wilderness in America.

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Yeah, it was in Montana.

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Didn't you have wildlife encounters?

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Oh, I tell you what, there was one time me and the make-up department

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went for a walk up into the mountain into the wilderness,

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in the mountain, and there was not another soul for miles.

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We drove to the bottom of the mountain and walked up.

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Halfway up, we had walked for an hour-and-a-half,

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and I was getting a bit puffed.

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I said, "I'll tell you what, I'll sit here and wait on this log

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"and wait for you to come back."

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They said, "We'll be 45 minutes, no more."

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I kicked a log, made sure there were no snakes under it.

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I sat down. It was so beautiful,

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just me and nature.

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It was beautiful.

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I thought, I'll look in the brochure. There was an insert

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in the brochure. It said,

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"Ladies, attention, under no circumstances,

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"venture into this area if you are menstruating

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"because of the bears..."

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LAUGHTER

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That was the longest 45 minutes!

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I thought they would come back and find my T-shirt.

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I was so scared.

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-But no bears.

-No, there were loads of bears.

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They weren't attracted to you?

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They're attracted to...

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No! I get it!

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I understood the brochure, Brenda.

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You survived, that's the main thing.

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It wasn't all bad because you got to be directed by Robert Redford.

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Apparently, the first meeting with him didn't go that well?

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I didn't audition for it. Somebody else saw me.

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I first saw him on set. I turned up on location

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and saw him coming out of a trailer and he went, "Brenda!"

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I thought, "Oh, it's Robert Redford."

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He came over and gave me a big hug and nearly winded me.

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And said, "Let's talk about this character."

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Went inside his trailer, he said, ""Now this woman, she works hard.

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"She knows work and if things get tough, she just, she just..."

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I said, "Gets on with it." He said, "Excuse me?"

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I said, "She just gets on with it."

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He said, "Oh, yeah, yeah."

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He thought I said, "Oh, get on with it!"

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Yakety yak, yak.

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"I've got bears to meet."

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Because, Jean Paul Gaultier,

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you had a bizarre meeting with the diminutive pop star Prince

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when you were... was it the Fifth Element?

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You were designing costumes. He was supposed to be in it.

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It was in Paris, he was coming for a show.

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He phoned and says he would like to come

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because he was supposed to play the role that did...

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Chris Tucker. Get on with it.

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He was supposed to do that role.

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He arrived, Prince, with his bodyguard and that's it.

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I say, "Hello, Prince, how are you? Welcome to Paris."

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Hmm, mmm. Turning around.

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He had these big, big high heels like that. Very elegant, in some way.

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He looked and I say, "Hello, I show you the clothes," because nobody saw.

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I thought maybe he wants me to present him myself. So if he likes.

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I start, and I arrive to one, it was a sketch.

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It was done like for him because it was quite extravagant.

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I love him also to be like that. So like fishnet, all fishnet.

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Like total suit in fishnet, with some hair, curly hair, like not rasta,

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but like afro hair, here and here and here,

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and I'm explaining, "Like hair here and here and here.

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"It's made like that. Even like you have a faux-cul there..."

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Alors...

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"Make something like that." I said, "Yes, like a faux-cul."

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He said three or four words and then he left.

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After that, it was quite strange, the situation.

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After, he received a phone call, like from Prince,

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saying that he didn't like so much...

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"It was too gay," the clothes,

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because there was something like "fuck you."

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He thought that I said...

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like "fuck you," you know? He thought that I wanted to fuck him or whatever.

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So that was it. A big mistake, a big faux pas.

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But I still don't...

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But Jean Paul, what were you saying?

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It's my accent! I'm sorry, but a faux-cul.

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It's something like a pompadour on Marie Antoinette.

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I see! And while we're talking about meeting famous people,

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Stephen Mangan, you got to meet Robert De Niro.

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-Yes.

-In New York?

-At the Tribeca Film Festival.

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A couple of times in my life, I've seen people I really admire

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and not gone over to say hello but I thought I had to say hello,

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so I sort of steeled myself. I'm really nervous.

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And I walked up to him and I said, "Hello, I'm Robert De Niro."

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LAUGHTER

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And he said, "No, I'm Robert De Niro."

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I said, "Sorry, you're Robert De Niro,"

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and I left, that was it.

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Blew it.

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But you can see how that would happen.

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Your brain goes to scramble.

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And talking about meeting famous people, Brenda Blethyn is an OBE.

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-Who did you meet when you got the OBE?

-Prince Charles.

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-Who did you bring?

-I took my old aunt.

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She was about 90 at the time.

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What a lovely thing to do.

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I said, "Do you want to come to Buckingham Palace with me?"

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She said, "Oh, yes. Will I have to wear..."

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I thought she was going to say "a hat."

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"Will I have to wear my teeth?"

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I said, "Not if you don't want to!

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"But it will be a long day. I'll have to take the wheelchair.

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"You'll get tired walking around."

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She said, "All right." And we turned up, and when we got there,

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they said because she was in a wheelchair,

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she could go right to the front.

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So she was wheeled by this bloke all done up, right to the front.

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And when the trumpet fanfare started for the entrance of royalty,

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Auntie Fran shot out of that chair and stood to attention!

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"Sit down! Sit down"

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They'll think you've come up here on false pretences!

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Did Prince Charles know you?

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I had met him before.

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-I do stuff for the Prince's Trust.

-Old friends!

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Showbiz mates.

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Jean Paul, you are slightly obsessed by the British royal family?

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You seem to like the British royal family.

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Yes, I love them, definitely. I think they are fabulous.

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In France, we are not educated with the royal family,

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because we killed them, you know?

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It's very exotic and I love it! I think it's fabulous.

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The fact that at the same time we are fascinated, we killed them,

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but after we took an emperor as well. Napoleon.

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So it is the stupidity of the French.

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I'm part of that stupidity.

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We hate them and love them.

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We admire them in England, but they have to stay in England.

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They are fabulous, and love them.

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I love the Queen Mother, how she was dressed, the hat.

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I have a fixation, a fetishism about the hat of the Queen Mother.

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But the opening of your big exhibition here in London,

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is this supposed to be the Queen?

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Yes...

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She looks so tiny.

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Because I am very tall!

0:19:490:19:52

I have changed a little of the look.

0:19:520:19:55

She is wearing a white motorbike jacket, like a shawl.

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She was quite nice in leather with the white mink.

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But you know she went in a helicopter for the Olympics,

0:20:060:20:09

so she can take a bike.

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Yes. But listen, this exhibition, it is fantastic. I've seen it.

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I really, really enjoyed it. It's called The Fashion World of Jean Paul Gaultier

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from the Sidewalk to the Catwalk

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and it's here in London at the Barbican

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until 25th August.

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-Then it continues around the world, no?

-Yeah.

-Yeah, yeah. Very good.

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Now, I didn't quite know what to expect.

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You think an exhibition of clothes will slightly be like posh shopping.

0:20:320:20:36

-But it's so much more than that.

-Yeah. Yeah.

-Things like...

0:20:360:20:40

This is so special that they've lent us this,

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this is your own teddy bear...

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-Yes. My first muse.

-..which is very fragile.

-Tres.

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Now, they very kindly lent it from the exhibition,

0:20:510:20:53

so if you saw the exhibition today, you didn't see this. Sorry.

0:20:530:20:56

-We had it.

-It's a real one.

-What's the name of your teddy bear?

0:20:570:21:00

-Nana.

-Nana.

-It's a little monster.

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-My little monster.

-Here is Nana.

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LAUGHTER

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I explain. I explain why.

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So, it was before Madonna having the cone bra. You know why?

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Because I wanted to have a doll and to dress a doll.

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My parents said that for a boy, it was not good to have a doll.

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So I took my little teddy bear and tried to make it like a doll.

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So it's a kind of transvestite...

0:21:270:21:29

LAUGHTER

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-And this is the original cone bra?

-It is the original cone bra.

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My first muse. I put him make up, like...

0:21:340:21:38

-It's adorable.

-Those eyebrows...

-His eyebrows.

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-The shade of colour on here is called...

-Has he dyed his hair?

0:21:420:21:45

Yes. I dyed the hair. Exactly.

0:21:450:21:47

Sometimes it was... But it was not going well, the black.

0:21:470:21:49

-A little lipstick.

-You know what is this here? It's an operation.

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It was a long time ago, it was the first operation,

0:21:540:21:57

open-heart, Professor Barnard in Canada.

0:21:570:22:00

I wanted to do the same thing.

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But he has the cone bra, I couldn't. So I made it here.

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It was my version, you know.

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-How old is this bear?

-He must be, like...

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a little younger than me, so he must be like 50, 50 something, 56.

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Wow. Looking terrible.

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LAUGHTER

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You know, it's already... Bon, bon.

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Does Madonna know that her bra was first modelled on this?

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No, she thinks that it was done only for her. But no, I did it before.

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-I think she would have loved it.

-I should put this down.

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She would not have appreciated it.

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She'll say, "I will look like that? No."

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-Oh, dear. I'm putting Nana down.

-It's very fragile.

-Yes.

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-Very, very fragile.

-But he is the star of the show.

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-And thank you very much...

-Has he got a name?

-Nana.

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-Nana.

-Nana. It was from a movie, of the '40s, '50s,

0:22:540:22:59

she was like a heroine.

0:22:590:23:01

A little prostitute.

0:23:010:23:02

LAUGHTER

0:23:020:23:05

-He has been busy.

-Et bon.

0:23:050:23:09

So, yeah. So, the Madonna thing, you worked together,

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-you got her in the costumes and everything.

-Yep.

-But then I'd forgotten...

0:23:120:23:15

This picture was everywhere at the time, but I'd forgotten

0:23:150:23:18

this picture until you were coming on.

0:23:180:23:19

How do you get Madonna to do this? Cos that's real.

0:23:190:23:23

-That's all Madonna.

-Please, I didn't push her to do that.

0:23:230:23:28

-I didn't oblige her. She did it by herself.

-OK.

0:23:280:23:30

I must say that the dress, I did it,

0:23:300:23:32

but the idea to take off the jacket, it's her idea.

0:23:320:23:37

-She's a very good director.

-She wears it well. She wears it well.

0:23:370:23:41

Everything is real.

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Oh, yes.

0:23:440:23:47

Now...

0:23:470:23:50

-We will not say names but...voila.

-That was then.

0:23:510:23:55

Now, actors do find themselves in these intimate situations.

0:23:550:23:59

Weren't you filmed in a bath, Brenda?

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Oh. Yes.

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How do you know that?

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I was in a film for the BBC called Floating Off. It was about...

0:24:080:24:12

It was about selling a peer on the stock market

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and there was one scene where I was in a bath, like a bubble bath,

0:24:190:24:24

and I thought I was supposed to get up, out of the bath.

0:24:240:24:29

The camera's like this height looking at me in the bath

0:24:290:24:33

and I stood up...

0:24:330:24:35

so there was a gasp...

0:24:350:24:39

from the entire studio and then a silence.

0:24:390:24:42

And I thought, "Nobody's said cut. What's going on?"

0:24:420:24:45

I was covered in bubbles...

0:24:450:24:49

and the camera was right here.

0:24:490:24:51

LAUGHTER

0:24:510:24:53

-Bit embarrassing.

-Bit embarrassing, yes. Does that film exist somewhere?

0:24:530:24:57

Somewhere, yes.

0:24:570:24:59

Stephen, this is quite shocking.

0:24:590:25:01

-What's the name of this play? Birthday?

-Birthday, yeah.

0:25:010:25:04

This is Stephen Mangan in Birthday.

0:25:040:25:07

LAUGHTER AND GROANING

0:25:070:25:10

What? What's wrong with that?

0:25:100:25:13

It's not as bad as it seems, ladies and gentlemen.

0:25:130:25:16

I know you just think you've seen Stephen Mangan naked,

0:25:160:25:18

but explain why we haven't.

0:25:180:25:19

There's a man over there who looks like he's seen a ghost.

0:25:190:25:23

Shocked and appalled.

0:25:240:25:26

Yeah, I play a pregnant man.

0:25:260:25:28

This was last year at the Royal Court. I played a pregnant man

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and they made a prosthetic, full body costume.

0:25:310:25:35

The Dougie-like breasts,

0:25:350:25:37

the pregnant belly and a prosthetic penis.

0:25:370:25:41

I mean... It's...

0:25:410:25:43

Can I just say, by the way, Stephen brought this picture?

0:25:430:25:47

We didn't have this picture.

0:25:470:25:49

He decided we should see it.

0:25:490:25:51

I bring it with me everywhere.

0:25:510:25:54

-Yeah, my wife's not keen on that photo.

-Is it on the piano at home?

0:25:540:25:59

On the front door. At least they know what they're getting.

0:25:590:26:02

-Do you sign it for fans?

-People write in. Postman Pat fans...

0:26:020:26:06

-..will be getting that.

-Children rocking and sobbing.

0:26:080:26:11

-But did audiences realise that it was prosthetic?

-They... Well...

0:26:130:26:18

I mean, they see me give birth in the play. That was what happened.

0:26:180:26:22

-OK.

-We wanted to show the indignities of giving birth,

0:26:220:26:25

but it happening to a man and people might realise how unpleasant it is. At one point, I have to try and pee

0:26:250:26:30

in front of a lot of other people.

0:26:300:26:32

We thought, "Well, we've got this prosthetic penis, let's get it out."

0:26:320:26:35

We thought, "If people think it's fake, they'll laugh.

0:26:350:26:38

"If they think it's real, they won't."

0:26:380:26:41

It was the quietest...

0:26:410:26:44

I've ever heard 600 people in a theatre to be.

0:26:440:26:47

Just lots of jaws... People looking away in disgust.

0:26:470:26:50

A couple of people tutting.

0:26:500:26:52

And I have to stand there and pretend to try and pee for a while.

0:26:520:26:55

It went on. It was about 90 seconds of...

0:26:550:26:57

-I didn't get it out after that.

-No.

-Kept it in its cage.

-Keep it away.

0:26:570:27:01

Now, how to follow that? Well, I know.

0:27:010:27:04

Let's talk about Stephen Mangan's new movie, Postman Pat.

0:27:040:27:08

CHEERING

0:27:080:27:10

The toddlers have sat through quite a lot to get to this bit.

0:27:100:27:13

There's a lot of four-year-olds going, "Finally!"

0:27:140:27:18

-"Yakety yak, fashion."

-Whatever.

-"Yakety yak, prosthetic penis.

0:27:180:27:21

"Yakety yak...

0:27:210:27:23

"Finally, we get to my movie."

0:27:230:27:26

Yep. This is the target audience.

0:27:290:27:32

It's out on 23rd May.

0:27:320:27:35

Your own children must be so geeked, cos how old are your kids?

0:27:350:27:38

-I've got two boys. Six and three.

-This is perfect for them.

0:27:380:27:41

Perfect age. I was so excited when I got the job. I rushed home.

0:27:410:27:43

I said, "I'm Postman Pat!"

0:27:430:27:46

"No, you're not, Dad.

0:27:460:27:47

"That's Postman Pat. You're not Postman Pat."

0:27:470:27:50

I'm very excited that they're going to see I am actually Postman Pat.

0:27:500:27:53

In fact, we went to the Lego movie recently

0:27:530:27:55

and there was a trailer for Postman Pat

0:27:550:27:57

and during the trailer it said, "Starring Stephen Mangan,"

0:27:570:28:01

in letters about 60-foot wide.

0:28:010:28:02

The two of them were like that...

0:28:020:28:04

LAUGHTER

0:28:040:28:06

..in their seats. So I'm excited, yeah.

0:28:060:28:09

Now, in case any toddlers are listening, we don't want

0:28:090:28:11

-any plot spoilers. Don't ruin it for everyone.

-OK.

0:28:110:28:15

But give us a taste of what happens to Postman Pat.

0:28:150:28:18

Well, it's hard cos Postman Pat, in five-minute sections, it's one thing.

0:28:180:28:21

-But you've got to go on an emotional journey over an hour and a half.

-Yes.

0:28:210:28:25

He's the nicest character ever created.

0:28:250:28:27

-I mean, he hasn't got a nasty bone in his body.

-Or indeed any bones.

0:28:270:28:30

Any bones!

0:28:300:28:32

So...

0:28:350:28:36

So, he's seduced by fame and glamour.

0:28:360:28:40

There's troubles, there's troubles with his wife.

0:28:400:28:43

He falls out with his kids

0:28:430:28:45

and there's a bit of argy-bargy with Jess.

0:28:450:28:47

-AUDIENCE GASPS

-No!

-The gasps!

0:28:470:28:51

It turns out he has an amazingly, jaw-droppingly good singing voice.

0:28:510:28:57

-Wow.

-A bit of like a Susan Boyle.

0:28:570:28:58

He goes on a talent show

0:28:580:29:01

that's run by a man called Simon Cowbell.

0:29:010:29:04

-Are you making this up?

-This is the plot.

-It's improv.

0:29:060:29:10

Brenda's like, "No, no, but seriously, what happens?"

0:29:100:29:14

-And that's the story, yeah, he's seduced by fame.

-Wow.

0:29:140:29:17

-Auntie Fran used to do her exercises to Postman Pat.

-Did she?

-Yeah.

0:29:170:29:21

Sitting in the armchair.

0:29:210:29:22

# Postman Pat, Postman Pat

0:29:220:29:25

# Postman Pat is a very nice chap. #

0:29:250:29:28

It's the right sort of rhythm, isn't it?

0:29:280:29:30

Jean Paul, has Postman Pat made the journey across the Channel?

0:29:300:29:34

No.

0:29:340:29:35

LAUGHTER

0:29:350:29:37

You just looked a bit blank. I thought, "He's not following this,

0:29:370:29:40

"is he? He's following this."

0:29:400:29:42

Let's have a clip. Now...

0:29:420:29:45

this is complicated. Postman Pat...

0:29:450:29:47

-He does go to the dark side a little bit.

-Yes, he does.

0:29:470:29:51

There's also the Patbot which is a robot Postman Pat

0:29:510:29:55

which was introduced by an scrupulous character in the film.

0:29:550:29:58

I don't why I'm telling you this.

0:29:580:30:00

This is the clip and if you are of a nervous disposition, be warned.

0:30:000:30:05

This is Postman Pat trying to escape

0:30:050:30:09

the dreaded Patbots.

0:30:090:30:11

More Patbots. Carbuncle isn't taking any chances.

0:30:140:30:17

What do we do now, Jess? We have to get inside.

0:30:170:30:19

JESS MEOWS

0:30:190:30:21

Manoeuvre 17.

0:30:220:30:24

Hurry, Jess! Hurry!

0:30:270:30:28

Here they come, Jess.

0:30:370:30:39

What was that?

0:30:470:30:49

-Oh, my God.

-That's terrifying.

-Terrifying.

0:30:490:30:52

That's for children?! Children are going to watch that?

0:30:520:30:55

-My children will never sleep again.

-Oh, dear.

0:30:550:30:58

Now, listen, it is time to meet our singing guest tonight.

0:30:580:31:02

This man really is one of the all-time musical greats.

0:31:020:31:06

Ladies and gentlemen, please welcome,

0:31:060:31:09

Mr Barry Manilow.

0:31:090:31:11

CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

0:31:110:31:14

Sit down. Barry Manilow, everybody!

0:31:310:31:34

Barry Manilow's here! Hello.

0:31:360:31:39

Always a pleasure, never a chore.

0:31:390:31:41

I've been enjoying the show down in the dressing room.

0:31:410:31:43

-You guys are great.

-And we have Mr Jean Paul Gaultier on the couch now.

0:31:430:31:46

-I know you love fashion.

-Are you going to bring up that picture?

0:31:460:31:50

Well, there's many pictures, in fairness, Barry.

0:31:500:31:52

There was a wide selection to choose from.

0:31:520:31:55

That... I got in such trouble with that Copacabana jacket.

0:31:550:31:59

That's what I was going to say. The Copacabana jacket. Look at it!

0:31:590:32:03

-I knew he was going to do that.

-Yeah, but it's a fabulous jacket.

0:32:030:32:06

-Wonderful.

-It's truly great. Honestly, I love it.

0:32:060:32:09

-I got in such trouble with that.

-No, it's great.

0:32:090:32:11

It's Copacabana, this fun, up-tempo, silly song.

0:32:110:32:14

I thought, "How am I going to stand there and sing it seriously?"

0:32:140:32:17

So, I had them make me a silly Ricky Ricardo rumba shirt.

0:32:170:32:21

Did I ever tell you the story about the Smithsonian?

0:32:210:32:24

-The Smithsonian Institute?

-Yeah.

0:32:240:32:25

They asked me... They wanted to put it at the Smithsonian.

0:32:250:32:28

I mean, how could I take that seriously?

0:32:280:32:31

This jacket at the Smithsonian?!

0:32:310:32:33

So, I gave an interview to somebody and I said,

0:32:330:32:35

"I always knew it would wind up in an institution someday."

0:32:350:32:39

LAUGHTER

0:32:390:32:41

And they got insulted and they sent it back to me.

0:32:410:32:45

-No!

-I still have it. Anybody want it?

0:32:450:32:48

-They put in the mail?

-They did.

0:32:480:32:51

They sent it back. They didn't like that joke.

0:32:510:32:54

-No sense of humour over at the Smithsonian.

-That's shock...

0:32:540:32:58

If I was you, I'd have sent it back again.

0:32:580:33:01

-"Sorry, I don't know..."

-I love that shirt now.

0:33:010:33:03

-It reminds me of really great times.

-Yeah, you should.

0:33:030:33:06

-Jean Paul, have you done the...?

-A little, but not that much.

0:33:060:33:10

I think he did truly a lot. I love it.

0:33:100:33:13

That's coming from Jean Paul Gaultier!

0:33:130:33:16

You have to be strong to wear all of those frills because it's like...

0:33:160:33:19

-It must be heavy.

-It weighed a tonne.

0:33:190:33:23

And to sing with it, fab.

0:33:230:33:25

-Fab, fab.

-Would you wear that, Stephen?

0:33:250:33:28

I might later, if you've got it with you.

0:33:280:33:31

I don't carry it with me.

0:33:310:33:32

We'll keep checking eBay. It'll show up eventually.

0:33:320:33:36

Now, what brings you to our shores?

0:33:360:33:39

I'm doing a tour here now and again. I come back every few years.

0:33:390:33:43

You can't get rid of me. I come back every few years and I do a tour.

0:33:430:33:47

-So, we begin in Wembley.

-These are big gigs.

0:33:470:33:50

-Next week, you're doing the 13th and 14th at Wembley Arena.

-Right.

-Now...

0:33:500:33:55

things I never thought I'd say.

0:33:550:33:58

Barry Manilow will be appearing at Ipswich football ground.

0:33:580:34:03

LAUGHTER

0:34:030:34:04

You know...

0:34:040:34:06

I don't know how I got so lucky.

0:34:060:34:09

I'll make them have a good time.

0:34:090:34:12

This year, it's a smaller band, not the royal philharmonic any more,

0:34:120:34:15

but it's a smaller band. A small, powerful band. It's fun.

0:34:150:34:19

Because the new album, Night Songs, which has done incredibly well,

0:34:190:34:22

that is a totally stripped-back sound.

0:34:220:34:25

It's an amazing experience, this Night Songs album.

0:34:250:34:28

It's just me playing the piano and singing

0:34:280:34:30

some of the most beautiful standards ever,

0:34:300:34:33

written by some of the greatest composers.

0:34:330:34:35

You know, I looked at the charts and it entered at the top ten,

0:34:350:34:40

I didn't know the people around me.

0:34:400:34:42

They're so young

0:34:420:34:45

and they're so different to this little album.

0:34:450:34:48

I'm so happy that people are getting to hear this great stuff.

0:34:480:34:51

Now, Brenda, do you have a favourite Barry Manilow song?

0:34:510:34:55

Um... Well, I like lots of them.

0:34:550:34:58

What was the one I was singing in the dressing room just now?

0:34:580:35:02

# Lola, she was a showgirl. #

0:35:020:35:04

Copacabana.

0:35:040:35:05

Now, Jean Paul Gaultier, are you familiar with Barry Manilow's songs?

0:35:050:35:08

-Yes. Copacabana is my favourite, of course.

-OK.

0:35:080:35:11

-Two votes for Copacabana.

-Even Kylie Minogue, she's singing it

0:35:110:35:14

in her last concert. She did it.

0:35:140:35:18

-It was great.

-Thief.

0:35:180:35:21

-And Stephen?

-The one sung to me at school by all the other kids...

0:35:210:35:25

# Oh, Mangan

0:35:250:35:27

# When you came... #

0:35:270:35:28

-Lovely song.

-I love that.

-Well, he's not singing any of those.

0:35:280:35:32

What are you singing for us tonight?

0:35:350:35:36

-You'll hear it when they first note comes out, I bet you know it.

-OK.

0:35:360:35:40

-Do you need to go get ready? Are you ready?

-I'm ready.

-You're ready.

0:35:400:35:43

Audience, all ready?

0:35:430:35:44

CHEERING

0:35:440:35:46

Ladies and gentlemen, it is Mr Barry Manilow.

0:35:460:35:49

CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

0:35:510:35:54

# I've been alive forever

0:36:140:36:19

# And I wrote the very first song

0:36:190:36:23

# I put the words and the melodies together

0:36:250:36:31

# I am music

0:36:310:36:32

# And I write the songs

0:36:320:36:36

# I write the songs that make the whole world sing

0:36:380:36:44

# I write the songs of love and special things

0:36:440:36:49

# I write the songs that make the young girls cry

0:36:510:36:56

# I write the songs

0:36:560:36:58

# I write the songs

0:36:580:37:02

# My home lies deep within you

0:37:070:37:13

# And I've got my own place in your soul

0:37:130:37:17

# Now when I look out through your eyes

0:37:190:37:24

# I'm young again

0:37:240:37:26

# Even though I'm very old

0:37:260:37:30

# I write the songs that make the whole world sing... #

0:37:320:37:37

I see you singing out there. Sing a little louder.

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# And special things

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# I write the songs that make the young girls cry

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# I write the songs

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# I write the songs

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# Oh, my music makes you dance

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# And gives you spirit to take a chance... #

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That's it!

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# And I wrote some rock 'n' roll

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# So you can move

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# Music fills your heart

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# Well, that's a real fine place to start

0:38:110:38:14

# It's from me, it's for you

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# It's from you, it's for me

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# It's a worldwide symphony... #

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Come on!

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# I write the songs that make the whole world sing APPLAUSE

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# I write the songs of love and special things

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# I write the songs that make the young girls cry

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# I write the songs

0:38:420:38:43

# I write the songs

0:38:430:38:48

# I write the songs that make the whole world sing

0:38:480:38:54

# I write the songs of love and special things

0:38:540:39:00

# I write the songs that make the young girls cry

0:39:010:39:07

# I write the songs

0:39:070:39:09

# I write the songs... #

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Listen to the music!

0:39:140:39:16

# I am music

0:39:160:39:18

# And I write the songs

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# And I write the songs

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# I write the songs. #

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CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

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Wow.

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Barry Manilow, everybody!

0:39:520:39:55

Genius. Come here, sir.

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Barry Manilow!

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Thank you so, so much. Grab a seat there.

0:40:040:40:07

Grab a seat there and we'll be out here in a second. You sit there.

0:40:070:40:10

That is so beautiful.

0:40:100:40:13

-What a treat.

-Thank you.

-Thank you very, very much.

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You are lucky people! Yeah.

0:40:150:40:17

In another land, they're paying to hear that. OK.

0:40:170:40:21

Just time for a quick story or two in the red chair. Who's there?

0:40:210:40:24

Who's there?

0:40:240:40:25

-Hello!

-Hi.

-Hi. What's your name?

0:40:250:40:29

-Alexi.

-And where are you from, Alexi?

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-I'm from London.

-OK. And what do you do in London?

-I'm an events manager.

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She's an events manager, everyone!

0:40:340:40:37

Oh! Who knew we'd meet an events manager tonight?

0:40:370:40:41

I wasn't expecting it. Designers, singers, actors, event managers.

0:40:410:40:46

All human life is here.

0:40:460:40:48

What sort of events?

0:40:480:40:50

-I work for an accountancy firm.

-Oh.

0:40:500:40:52

LAUGHTER

0:40:520:40:54

Wow. And you managed to get the night off.

0:40:540:40:58

OK. Off you go with your story, Alexi.

0:40:580:41:00

OK. So, I was driving home for Christmas,

0:41:000:41:03

bringing back my grandparents.

0:41:030:41:05

My grandma was in the back of the car and she gets travel sick.

0:41:050:41:09

So we were driving along and she was feeling really bad,

0:41:090:41:12

-so we gave her a plastic bag and she unfortunately...

-Can I just stop you?

0:41:120:41:15

Actually, I'm just going to do that.

0:41:150:41:17

"We gave her a plastic bag?!"

0:41:190:41:22

You stop the car, you rude cow.

0:41:220:41:25

LAUGHTER

0:41:250:41:27

Your grandmother's feeling ill.

0:41:270:41:30

What is wrong with people?!

0:41:330:41:35

They didn't put it over her head, did they?

0:41:350:41:38

That would quieten her down.

0:41:380:41:40

-Let's see who's in the chair now. Oh, hello.

-Hello.

-What's your name?

0:41:410:41:45

-I'm Andy.

-Andy, are you from New Zealand?

-Yes.

-We love New Zealand.

0:41:450:41:51

-You must have toured New Zealand?

-I've never toured New Zealand, no.

0:41:510:41:54

-You're kidding?

-No.

-You're kidding?

-I would love to, but I never went.

0:41:540:41:58

-But you've been everywhere.

-I know. Everywhere but New Zealand.

0:41:580:42:01

Let's hear his story.

0:42:010:42:02

Let's hear his story.

0:42:020:42:05

Off you go with your story.

0:42:050:42:07

OK. So, I was out for a run with my friend, Dunc,

0:42:070:42:10

and we were running past...

0:42:100:42:12

LAUGHTER

0:42:120:42:13

..a park and Dunc really needed to go for a poo.

0:42:130:42:17

-We saw...

-Can I just stop you?

0:42:180:42:21

That's why you've never been to New Zealand.

0:42:210:42:24

So, we saw a toilet block and there was a men's

0:42:260:42:28

and a woman's and we ran over to the men's and he was busting,

0:42:280:42:32

he really needed to get this thing out of him.

0:42:320:42:35

The men's was closed. At this stage, he didn't even care,

0:42:350:42:38

so he went over to the women's toilet and that was closed as well.

0:42:380:42:42

So, he's frantically looking around, "Where can I go? Where can I go?"

0:42:420:42:45

So he ran over to this bush and crouched down behind this bush

0:42:450:42:49

and he went and about 30 seconds later,

0:42:490:42:51

I saw... This big German Shepherd, came bounding over

0:42:510:42:55

and Dunc pulled his pants up, jogged off.

0:42:550:42:58

Then about 20 seconds later, the owner of the German Shepherd

0:42:580:43:03

came over and she was like, "Oh, Roy, you naughty boy!"

0:43:030:43:08

-LAUGHTER

-Puts a bag on her arm,

0:43:080:43:11

picks up the poo, ties it to her belt

0:43:110:43:14

and then just wanders off with the poo dangling from her belt.

0:43:140:43:17

Well done! Very good story. Very good story.

0:43:170:43:21

Well done, everyone. If you'd like to join us on the show

0:43:210:43:25

and have a go in the red chair, you can.

0:43:250:43:27

Contact us via our website at this very address.

0:43:270:43:30

A huge thank you to my guests tonight, Mr Barry Manilow...

0:43:300:43:34

CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

0:43:340:43:36

..Stephen Mangan...

0:43:360:43:39

Jean Paul Gaultier...

0:43:390:43:41

and Brenda Blethyn...

0:43:410:43:43

CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

0:43:430:43:46

And join me next week with music from Sam Smith,

0:43:460:43:49

action man Bear Grylls, comedian and writer Dawn French

0:43:490:43:52

and Hollywood star Kirsten Dunst.

0:43:520:43:54

I'll see you, then. Good night, everybody. Goodbye.

0:43:540:43:56

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