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On the show tonight - a Hollywood actress, an action man,

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a top comedian and the most famous bearded lady in the whole world.

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No, Dawn.

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Let's start the show!

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Hello, good evening. Welcome, everybody.

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This is exciting. On the show tonight,

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from Interview With A Vampire and Spider-Man, Kirsten Dunst is here!

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CHEERING

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Alpha male and survival expert Bear Grylls is on the show.

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CHEERING

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Yes, I know, something for the ladies.

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Comedy goddess Dawn French is joining us.

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CHEERING

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Hot new singer Sam Smith is on the show.

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CHEERING

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And I am thrilled to say, fresh from Eurovision glory,

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Conchita Wurst will be here!

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CHEERING

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There's Conchita.

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Beautifully feminine, but with a masculine undertone.

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It's setting a whole new Eurovision trend.

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Here's Ireland's entry for next year.

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People are going, "Yeah, that's a good idea."

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Obviously, Conchita's performance was controversial.

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The Russian Orthodox church have condemned a man in a beard performing in a dress.

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Here are the Russian Orthodox church.

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Pot, kettle, much? Since Eurovision,

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Conchita's bearded look has been taking the world by storm.

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The internet is full of celebrities paying homage. Here's Cheryl Cole.

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Her Majesty.

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And even her great grandson.

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AUDIENCE AWW

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Look, he's got his father's hair.

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I wondered where it had gone.

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Kirsten Dunst has starred in so many great movies

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like Bring It On where she starred as a cheerleader.

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Cheerleaders are often unfairly portrayed as dumb blondes.

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Here's one in action...

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It's not just for women, some men become cheerleaders too.

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You do think, "Why would any bloke want to be a cheerleader?"

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Hello!

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I'll be talking to Kirsten about her infamous

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upside down kiss in Spider-Man. Do you remember that?

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I wonder what he's thinking, "I hope she goes up on me."

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It's clever, isn't it? It's clever, that.

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That's all coming up, plus some more of your stories in the big red chair.

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So, let's get some guests on.

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Later we'll be chatting to Eurovision winner Conchita Wurst

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and we'll have music from Sam Smith.

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But first, time to grill a bear, it's Bear Grylls!

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CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

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Hello, sir, very nice to see you.

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Have a seat, have a seat.

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Let's have some French kissing, it's Dawn French!

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Hello.

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Lovely to see you. Have a seat.

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And it's time to Bring It On, it's Kirsten Dunst!

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CHEERING AND APPLAUSE CONTINUE

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Lovely to see you. Sit down.

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Hello, all. You all well?

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Were you doing chitty chat out the back, there?

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Yes, trying to catch up.

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This is my new best friend, this is my new boyfriend.

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-Have you bumped into Conchita Wurst?

-I haven't seen her yet.

-Not yet.

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Bear is looking so blank. I'm guessing you didn't see Eurovision?

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I was up a Utah mountain last week, so I slightly feel I missed out.

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Honestly, you did. We will show you a clip later.

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-Ms French, did you watch it?

-I watched it from beginning to end.

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-Excellent.

-I like to try to eat food from the countries

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as you go through the night.

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-So you had a nice bratwurst?

-Oh, yes.

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Loads of cabbage this time. And no Maltesers for Malta.

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I used to look forward to that... I ate them anyway.

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-What a worthy winner.

-It was a lovely moment, it was a really popular win.

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And of course, Kirsten, you have European roots.

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-My dad is from Germany.

-Do you speak German?

-Nein.

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-SHE SPEAKS GERMAN

-Kid's German. And curse words too.

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-Is that why it is called a Kinder Surprise?

-It's a kid's surprise.

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I never knew that. I must write it down in case I forget.

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-What's this creepy chocolate with little kids on it?

-Kinder Surprise.

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The best thing about German is that father is...

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MISPRONOUNCED: farta. That's great, isn't it?

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I do have a farta.

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Yeah, my farta's at home.

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Kirsten's mum, I'm sure she's a lovely lady,

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-but when she was an air hostess...

-For Lufthansa.

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..you didn't want to mess with her, get on her wrong side?

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Well, yeah. Twice she sent people's luggage to different places.

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In the morning, if they were being jerks, like men, being mean in

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the morning, she was like, "Right, your bag is going to India."

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Good for her. I like the sound of her.

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I love the power of people in those jobs.

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They are like, "Oh, are you getting married in Thailand?"

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-"Not now."

-Exactly. She did that twice.

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Bear, you have been everywhere, it's lovely to have you here,

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but it is kind of nice to have you at all.

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All of your stories, all of them, they are,

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"And if I had been there a minute later or a minute earlier,

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"or two inches to the left, my head would be cut off."

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-I mean, near death experiences, you've a lot of them.

-The truth is,

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people always have this expectation that if I have a scar...

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I mean, I had to do a thing last year where I was doing a commercial in America.

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I had to take my shirt off and this female director saw I had this scar straight across here.

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She went, "Gosh, was it a crocodile?" And I thought...

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The truth was, I was taking a pizza out of the oven without a shirt on.

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It went... I went, "Ah!"

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And I had one of those moments, "Do I tell her?

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"She's going to be so disappointed."

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I can see myself going from hero to zero in about five seconds.

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It's not always like that. Home can be dangerous as well.

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What's extraordinary about you is, we won't pry,

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the luck, the luck of the man.

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At one stage, you were bitten by loads of bees,

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stung by lots of bees.

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Yes, that was an occasion I ended up looking like the elephant man.

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Can I just say, no, you didn't. Right, this is the luck of the man.

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-See nice Bear there?

-Yeah.

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Gets stung all over by bees. It turned him into Keanu Reeves.

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I'm surprised you're alive, you're like a cat.

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But when it comes to endurance, Kirsten Dunst,

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what you went through filming your new movie,

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The Two Faces Of January, in Greece,

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if I had known the horrors you endured,

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I probably couldn't have enjoyed the film.

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Tell us, you were filming in Greece

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and it was the height of the economic crash.

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Yes, but we also had a lovely time.

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We were swimming, it was beautiful weather and stuff.

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There was problems at the hotel, but I mean,

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we were working most of the time.

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Is it true, you were staying at a hotel

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and there was no room service at all?

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Oh, my God! Are you OK now?

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I'm OK, thanks, Dawn. I made it through.

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Thank God there was a fruit basket.

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What is so lovely is, you are filming in Greece,

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you can't get room service, but you still thought of others, didn't you?

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-Oh, yeah. Cos I fed a lot of cats whilst I was there.

-No.

-Oh.

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If you don't like cats, look away now.

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This is Kirsten. Is this just some random street?

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It's in an alleyway and I found a chair and just I propped myself,

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and I bought a bunch of cat food. It was kind of weird.

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Listen, I still have a boyfriend, so...

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-I haven't turned into the cat lady.

-I hope that's not your future.

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This new movie, The Two Faces Of January, it's out tonight,

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and I didn't know what to expect.

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It's great. It's a proper old-fashioned thriller.

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People who are into Hitchcock movies, it does have that flavour.

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Yeah, it does.

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It feels like a film noir kind of film even though it's in colour...

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I don't want to see it now.

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It does have an old-fashioned, classy, Hitchcock feel to it.

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How much can you tell us about the plot?

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It's a suspenseful drama set in the '60s

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and I play a rich con artist's wife.

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And we get involved with this other guy who we meet up in Greece.

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When we go on the lam, he starts to helps us.

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-This other man, Rydal, who is played by Oscar Isaac.

-Very interesting.

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You brought a clip.

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Being myself. I edited this clip for you all!

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It's a bit of a flirty, sexy moment with me and Oscar.

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It's after my husband has been a monster.

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-Viggo Mortensen's the husband?

-Yeah.

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-Oscar Isaac is...?

-Is the young lad helping us.

-Here it is.

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You're no smaller than us.

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Well, there's only one of me.

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Anything interesting happening in

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-the outside world?

-Um, soccer.

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Where's Chester?

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Oh, he was up all night, he's taking a sleeping pill.

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You keep a diary?

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Yeah, it's just notes for my work.

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Anything about me and Chester?

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Maybe there's a line or two.

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You coming with me?

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For a walk.

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Sure, yeah. I'll come with you.

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Good.

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That's Oscar Isaac. He is so hot right now.

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Yeah, he just got cast in the new Star Wars movie.

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Rumour reaches me that someone else on the couch might be in the new Star Wars film.

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-Me?! No.

-Why were you wearing the Star Wars dress?

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Well, my girlfriends who do the clothing line called Rodarte are obsessed with Star Wars.

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-So, yes, I did wear a Death Star dress.

-That's how rumours start.

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Hey, man, I'd love to be in the new Star Wars.

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Dawn, you have basically auditioned for most roles in Star Wars.

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-This is you with Jennifer.

-Yes, yes!

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-You've forgotten about this.

-I had completely forgotten about that.

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You didn't just do that, you also wore...

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-Is it Princess Amidaladala?

-Yes!

-There you are.

-That's me.

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Jennifer is wearing a very good chest wig, it's not her own hair.

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The two of you take to make-up so well.

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You can do anything. You just look like them.

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Although, we did do a lot of prosthetics over the years.

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It was back, 20 years ago,

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when you put prosthetics on, they were put on with medical glue.

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So to get it off took nearly a day. And that's why...

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I'm actually only 17, but I look like this. That glue ravaged your face.

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It's weird that it's become so famous,

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-the upside-down Spider-Man kiss.

-Yeah.

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You don't know, but I remember Sam Raimi giving me a book of kisses.

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It was a little coffee table book.

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Like, a little cute book of movie kisses.

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He said, "Let's try and make this one as epic as these kisses."

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So I thought, "Oh, that's a nice idea. Yeah, right."

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I mean, "We'll see."

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But I never expected it to be one of those things.

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You never know when you are making something.

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But it really has become iconic. We wondered how hard it was to do.

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-Cos obviously it's not straightforward.

-Uh-oh.

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Don't worry, we're not going to do it.

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Dawn, while we've been chatting,

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mostly what you have been doing is not kissing Bear Grylls.

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Yes, that's true. But I have been wishing I could.

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-You need me to direct you guys?

-Yeah, maybe.

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-Bear, you're OK to hang upside down?

-To hang upside down?

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But it was raining, so we gotta pour this over your head.

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Part of the reason it was difficult

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was because the water was going into his nose.

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I'm very excited about this bit!

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-Not going to work.

-It will be so fun.

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-Fun for you.

-We're really going to recreate this though, aren't we?

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-We don't have a suit for him. There is a trapeze.

-Oh.

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-Are you sure you can do this? Yes?

-I'll give it a go.

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-That looks really high, can you do it?

-I can get up there.

-Good luck.

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Jacket off! Jacket off!

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CHEERING

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He is serious.

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-What did he do then?

-He tucked his shirt in.

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Oh, look at him go. He's like a monkey.

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You can go and sit at the end.

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CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

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Oh, Bear!

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Bear! What is that?

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It's going up his nose!

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Oh, Bear! That's repulsive.

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-Spit it out.

-What is that?

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AUDIENCE SCREAMS

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I'm so sorry, I left that in from earlier.

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I like to travel with food on the go. I'm ready for my smacker.

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Hang on, let me just clean that up.

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Here we go.

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-Hold on. There's one more in there, hold on.

-No, there isn't.

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Suddenly it doesn't feel so much fun.

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Oh, Spider-Man. You're so...hot.

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CHEERING

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Beautiful. Well done.

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Nice job, Dawn.

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-That looks sore. Are you OK?

-Yeah. Traumatised.

-Nice job, Bear.

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What was really dangerous about that,

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you know all the dangerous things Bear's done,

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I have just given Bear so many diseases.

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We live dangerously on this show.

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Now, Dawn French, I happen to know, has been alive for 30 million minutes, is that correct?

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-That's right.

-Isn't that cool?

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We know this because it's the title of your new tour,

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but it's also kind of true.

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-It is true, give or take a few million.

-Minutes.

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I'm 56 and that's about 30 million minutes, yes.

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This tour, it runs from June 5, now going to the end of November.

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If people want specific dates and theatres,

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all the details are online.

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-You're adding new dates all the time.

-They are online on a website.

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I don't do technology, you know I don't do this,

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but there is a website, Dawn French on tour.com or something.

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I don't know what a website is. That's where it is. Don't look,

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-is that what you said?

-You don't e-mail?

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No, I don't Twitter, I don't Facebook or anything.

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I have seen this website. Somebody has shown it to me.

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-People do it for you.

-Kind of, I don't engage that way.

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I don't have anything to say on there. Is that right?

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-Usually comedians are the best at Twitter, though.

-Are they?

-Yeah.

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-Doesn't it take up your whole life?

-I'm not good at that stuff.

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-I feel like you'd be really good.

-Do you? Yeah, maybe I will get into it.

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-I'd follow you.

-I want to get into it

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-just as everybody else is getting out.

-Wait! I'm here.

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I had lunch too, here's some pictures of my food.

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This tour, I thought Kirsten's film was top secret,

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but this tour is shrouded in more mystery than that.

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-It's starting quite soon.

-It is starting soon.

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Actually, as we've just said that,

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I've eaten a bit of your sofa here with my bottom,

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with the fear of the fact that it is in a couple of weeks' time.

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-It's not just pure stand-up, there's a proper posh director.

-Yes.

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It's not really stand-up at all.

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-And yes, I'm working with Michael Grandage...

-Who's serious.

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Yeah, absolutely. It's got some theatre chops, this show.

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I've written it. It's very autobiographical.

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It's basically me telling stories about things that have happened in my life

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and asking questions about the things I'm not sure about yet.

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It's me basically exploring what it is to be a person, if you like,

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and how flawed we all are and all the things I've got wrong basically.

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Ladies and gentleman,

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since we last met Dawn French on this programme, married.

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-Yes.

-Ding dong.

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APPLAUSE

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We just had our first wedding anniversary actually.

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-Really?

-Yeah, a couple of weeks ago.

-Congratulations.

-Thank you.

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The proposal, was that a down on one knee proposal?

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No, it was on a gondola in Venice.

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-I know that sounds cliche...

-No, those moments go with the cliche.

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What I would say is what he did do is he engaged

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the gondolier in a big conversation about the sewage system of Venice.

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I thought, "We paid quite a lot of money for this,"

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I didn't know that was what was going to come, "40 minutes in,

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"we're still talking about shit.

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"Would you look at me now. Available for kissing."

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And suddenly he said it. I thought, "Huh, what?

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"We were just in the sewage system and now this?!"

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Yeah, it was in a gondola.

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-Bear, when you proposed to your wife, had you planned that?

-Vaguely.

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I proposed skinny dipping off a beach in Spain,

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but it was a freezing cold Monday morning in winter in Spain

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and we'd be skinny dipping and I thought, this is it.

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For a man, that's the moment.

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Girls get nervous for the wedding, for men,

0:19:520:19:54

the big thing is actually when you propose.

0:19:540:19:57

From then on, you're done. Do you know what I mean? The scary thing...

0:19:570:20:00

Wow.

0:20:000:20:01

Bit too much honesty there, Bear.

0:20:030:20:04

-Reel it in!

-You are so not done there.

0:20:040:20:08

-So not done.

-Done emotionally. This is a big thing.

0:20:080:20:11

So, I was pretty nervous.

0:20:110:20:13

I was kneeling on the beach.

0:20:130:20:15

I came out of the waves, big old Atlantic rolling behind.

0:20:150:20:18

I thought, "This is it." Ring in hand...

0:20:180:20:20

I thought, "Ah..."

0:20:200:20:22

Then a huge wave went crash!

0:20:220:20:24

And just took me like tumbleweed out on the beach.

0:20:240:20:28

I was pulling sand out of everywhere.

0:20:280:20:29

-Did you still have the ring?

-I was thinking that.

0:20:290:20:32

I gave it a second go.

0:20:320:20:34

I think, by this stage, she was saying,

0:20:340:20:36

"What are you doing? Why do you keep kneeling?"

0:20:360:20:38

So, you were naked on the beach, freezing?

0:20:380:20:41

-Freezing.

-I'm sure she was like, "Um..."

-I had to give a pre stretch.

0:20:410:20:45

Best foot forward, and all of that, Graham.

0:20:470:20:50

Maybe she had a similar experience to me with, you know, the worm.

0:20:500:20:53

It was winter, it was very cold.

0:20:570:21:00

She's a brave lady.

0:21:000:21:01

I'd be like, "You go. I'll be here with my blanket."

0:21:010:21:04

In the end, I think she felt sorry for me.

0:21:040:21:07

The question that story begs, I feel,

0:21:070:21:09

is "Where was the ring?"

0:21:090:21:12

You're right.

0:21:120:21:14

I had it firmly in my hand.

0:21:140:21:17

Even the whole time, when you were swimming?

0:21:170:21:20

-Prepared.

-What does that mean?

0:21:200:21:23

-I know!

-What are you getting at?

0:21:230:21:25

You'd really love me to say I had it secreted between my butt cheeks.

0:21:250:21:29

I don't know! Is that where it was?

0:21:290:21:31

-Yes.

-Oh!

0:21:310:21:33

No! No! In my hand!

0:21:330:21:35

-Oh, dear.

-How romantic(!)

0:21:360:21:38

That is lovely.

0:21:380:21:40

"Will you marry me?!"

0:21:400:21:43

"It's warm."

0:21:460:21:48

"I offer you my ring."

0:21:490:21:51

Sorry.

0:21:560:21:57

I'm actually quite upset.

0:21:590:22:00

-It's spoiling what was quite a romantic...

-Is it?

0:22:000:22:03

Oh, God, I'm so sorry.

0:22:030:22:05

I've suddenly become crude.

0:22:050:22:07

I'm laughing so hard my cheeks are numb.

0:22:070:22:10

Kirsten is a bit shocked.

0:22:100:22:11

-We've shocked Kirsten.

-It's very different in America.

0:22:110:22:14

-AMERICAN ACCENT:

-Isn't it, though?

0:22:160:22:18

Now, Bear Grylls, new show called The Island with Bear Grylls,

0:22:180:22:21

Monday nights on Channel 4.

0:22:210:22:23

It's 13 men surviving on an island.

0:22:230:22:26

It is.

0:22:260:22:27

It's an experiment of what's modern man really made of?

0:22:270:22:30

If you take everything that we take for granted away from us,

0:22:300:22:33

like mobiles and computers,

0:22:330:22:35

and put people back on an island with nothing,

0:22:350:22:38

no camera teams even, what happens?

0:22:380:22:41

Are we still... Have we still got that resourcefulness

0:22:410:22:44

and that ability to look after ourselves

0:22:440:22:46

or have we lost generations of those skills in one generation?

0:22:460:22:50

We've got a taste. This is a taste of next Monday's episode,

0:22:500:22:54

which is episode three.

0:22:540:22:55

I want to find out what happens if you strip man of all the luxuries

0:22:550:22:59

and the conveniences of modern living

0:22:590:23:01

and then force them to fight for their very existence.

0:23:010:23:05

Brian, do you see everyone working here?

0:23:050:23:07

You've been walking around in a dream this morning and not doing any work.

0:23:070:23:11

I'm trying my hardest, I really am.

0:23:110:23:13

I'm really sorry, buddy.

0:23:130:23:15

-Don't be like that.

-But we're carrying you.

0:23:150:23:17

-I know you are.

-It's driving me bonkers.

0:23:170:23:20

I can't do it, Dan. I've got to go.

0:23:250:23:27

I need to get off the island. I've got no use.

0:23:270:23:29

Everyone is carrying me. I'm taking up water, I'm taking up food.

0:23:290:23:32

Let me just go.

0:23:320:23:34

Wow.

0:23:340:23:35

The thing is, you see...

0:23:350:23:37

You see what people are made of

0:23:390:23:40

when you put them in that sort of environment.

0:23:400:23:43

I think lots of people talk a good story - "I'll be a great survivor" -

0:23:430:23:46

and we watch films and we're used to the blueprint of a hero.

0:23:460:23:48

But actually, when you're stripped of everything,

0:23:480:23:51

heroes are made by how they act in the big moments,

0:23:510:23:53

when it's really... When you're starving.

0:23:530:23:55

These guys hadn't eaten for six days at one point.

0:23:550:23:58

Truth is, I came away with an incredible respect

0:23:580:24:01

for what a lot of these guys went through there.

0:24:010:24:03

There's been a lot of stuff in the papers about,

0:24:030:24:06

"Oh, you know, why have you just done men?"

0:24:060:24:08

But is it because women are too bright to apply to do this show?

0:24:080:24:12

Probably.

0:24:130:24:15

Why would you...?! It's like...

0:24:160:24:19

Actually, you say that,

0:24:190:24:20

something like 70% of the applicants...

0:24:200:24:22

We had tens of thousands of people apply,

0:24:220:24:24

which is the shocking thing in the first place,

0:24:240:24:26

but the majority of them were women.

0:24:260:24:29

It's funny, even though we said this was for men,

0:24:290:24:31

I think women want to also, just as much as men.

0:24:310:24:34

A - they want adventure.

0:24:340:24:36

B - people want to test themselves,

0:24:360:24:38

when they're really away from all of this.

0:24:380:24:41

How do you do?

0:24:410:24:43

So I'd love to do an all-women's one.

0:24:430:24:45

It would be amazing to see whether there's no drama,

0:24:450:24:48

whether they just quietly get on, they can multitask.

0:24:480:24:50

-I think it might be...

-I imagine they will.

0:24:500:24:53

Surely most interesting would be the women and men together.

0:24:530:24:57

-Then it becomes love on an island.

-Then you've got sex.

0:24:570:24:59

It was funny with the sex.

0:24:590:25:01

You think you put a bunch of men on the island...

0:25:010:25:04

It was a lot of bravado,

0:25:040:25:05

and a lot of talk initially about masturbating and all of this...

0:25:050:25:10

And then lots of crying.

0:25:100:25:13

What happens is once you get really hungry, tired,

0:25:130:25:17

thirsty and you feel your life is on the line more,

0:25:170:25:21

your body prioritises and an erection is...

0:25:210:25:24

That's a... That's... What do you call it?

0:25:240:25:27

-I don't know, what do you call it?

-Exactly.

-What? What?!

0:25:270:25:30

-It's a wasteful use of vital energy.

-Wow.

0:25:300:25:34

Right, like athletes don't do that.

0:25:340:25:36

So, their sex drives just plummeted, cos your body...

0:25:360:25:38

You need food and water

0:25:380:25:40

and I don't need an erection any more.

0:25:400:25:42

Did they get paid to be on the show?

0:25:420:25:44

They did get paid.

0:25:440:25:46

They got paid the equivalent of the salary they were missing at home.

0:25:460:25:49

All of them wanted to be there to test themselves, ultimately.

0:25:490:25:53

Now, listen,

0:25:530:25:54

no-one is going to accuse you of being sexist with your book

0:25:540:25:58

called Train For It. It's out on 5th June, I believe.

0:25:580:26:00

Basically, you've got Bear...

0:26:000:26:02

Look at that cover! If you don't mind me saying.

0:26:020:26:04

-I know!

-It's slightly embarrassing to see that.

0:26:040:26:06

-I slightly wince, if I'm honest.

-Why?

0:26:060:26:09

You must have noticed the photographer in front of you.

0:26:090:26:12

All the push-ups you did just before it, were you aware of those?

0:26:120:26:17

And what's slightly depressing,

0:26:170:26:20

we would assume that someone like you

0:26:200:26:24

who is constantly climbing, jumping and swinging off things

0:26:240:26:27

and not eating very much would be fit,

0:26:270:26:30

and yet, you're still having to lift bloody kettle things.

0:26:300:26:34

The truth is I need to be fit for my job.

0:26:340:26:37

You can't just rely on just doing it to be able to be fit.

0:26:370:26:40

You need to train for it.

0:26:400:26:42

That's a lot of... It's about explosive power

0:26:420:26:45

and dynamic functional movement.

0:26:450:26:47

For me, it really helps when I'm climbing,

0:26:470:26:49

or shimmying up vines...

0:26:490:26:51

And good for dance moves, as well.

0:26:510:26:53

-And good for dance moves.

-YMCA right there.

0:26:530:26:56

This, ladies and gentleman...

0:26:560:26:58

Seriously, this is bloody impressive.

0:26:580:27:01

Look at that.

0:27:010:27:03

Yes!

0:27:030:27:04

-That's a yoga thing, isn't it?

-I could get you doing that.

0:27:040:27:07

-You could do that.

-That's actually not that hard.

0:27:070:27:10

You rest on your elbows, right? I'm not going to do it in this dress.

0:27:100:27:12

-If I had jeans on, I would do it.

-I'll get Graham to do it.

0:27:120:27:16

I will be amazed if I can do this.

0:27:190:27:21

-Just have a sip of your wine.

-Put your hands down.

0:27:210:27:24

I can't even do that.

0:27:240:27:26

Knees on the outside of your elbows.

0:27:260:27:29

Take your jacket off. OK, maybe not.

0:27:290:27:31

Then we're leaning forward.

0:27:310:27:34

Then we put our weight on our hands.

0:27:350:27:37

-You're doing it!

-Yes!

0:27:370:27:39

Wow.

0:27:420:27:44

I don't need this. I've done it.

0:27:460:27:50

Frankly, look at that front cover...

0:27:500:27:52

-That's me.

-That is impressive.

0:27:520:27:54

Much more impressive than of all of that,

0:27:540:27:56

cos that is Bear hanging a massive weight

0:27:560:27:59

on his needless, pointless erection.

0:27:590:28:01

That's a wasteful expenditure of energy.

0:28:050:28:08

Bear, do you know what you are?

0:28:080:28:11

You're unstoppable. Yeah.

0:28:110:28:13

Just like my next guest.

0:28:150:28:17

Yes, she captured the hearts of a continent

0:28:170:28:19

when she won the Eurovision Song Contest last weekend.

0:28:190:28:22

Here's a reminder of how she did it.

0:28:220:28:24

# Rise like a Phoenix

0:28:240:28:27

# Out of the ashes

0:28:270:28:30

# Seeking love and vengeance

0:28:300:28:33

# Retribution, you were one

0:28:330:28:37

# Once I'm transformed

0:28:370:28:40

# Once I'm reborn

0:28:400:28:43

# You know I will rise like a Phoenix

0:28:430:28:47

# But you're my home. #

0:28:490:28:54

Ladies and gentlemen, please welcome Conchita Wurst!

0:28:560:28:59

Oh, hello!

0:29:050:29:07

Come and sit down. That's Kirsten...

0:29:090:29:11

Dawn...

0:29:110:29:13

Bear...

0:29:130:29:14

Oh! Conchita Wurst, everybody!

0:29:140:29:17

Thank you.

0:29:190:29:20

-So, this is it?

-Yeah.

-This is the proper trophy?

0:29:200:29:23

I've only ever seen it from a distance.

0:29:230:29:25

-Wow. Is it one you get to keep?

-Yes, I do.

0:29:250:29:28

I know it's a bit embarrassing, but I carry it along all the way.

0:29:280:29:32

-Was that in your hand luggage today?

-Yes.

0:29:320:29:35

-Is it glass or plastic?

-Glass.

0:29:350:29:38

-You don't want to drop that.

-No.

0:29:380:29:40

-Congratulations, Conchita.

-Thank you.

0:29:400:29:42

Such a popular win on the night.

0:29:420:29:44

-Everyone was so happy.

-I cried the whole time.

0:29:440:29:47

I don't blame you. I was crying. We were all crying.

0:29:470:29:49

All the commentators were in the hall after going...

0:29:490:29:52

-CRYING:

-"Oh, it was so good, it was so good."

0:29:520:29:54

Everyone has been tweeting about you.

0:29:540:29:56

-Cher was tweeting about you.

-Yes.

-That's so cool.

-Yes, it is.

0:29:560:30:00

I was like, "Are you serious? You mean like Cher, Cher?"

0:30:000:30:06

You're the rightful heir to the Cher throne, I think.

0:30:060:30:10

-Oh.

-Yeah.

0:30:100:30:11

You know, actually, I was very excited about this tweet

0:30:110:30:17

because she gave me two advice.

0:30:170:30:19

She said, "Darling..."

0:30:190:30:21

Well, she didn't write darling, but in my mind, she said it.

0:30:210:30:23

APPLAUSE

0:30:280:30:31

She tweeted, "Darling, you deserve a lovelier name and a better wig."

0:30:330:30:39

-Oh, my God.

-My hairstylist was quite pissed.

0:30:400:30:43

-Well you chose Conchita, right?

-Yes.

0:30:430:30:45

Yeah, so that's...

0:30:450:30:46

Because I thought my hair was quite nice.

0:30:460:30:49

-It looks beautiful.

-Thank you.

0:30:490:30:51

Mind you, if anyone knows wigs, it's Cher.

0:30:510:30:53

-You have to listen to her wig advice.

-I know, I know.

0:30:530:30:56

She's all over that wig thing.

0:30:560:30:58

Apparently, some flowers were waiting for you

0:30:580:31:01

-in the dressing room.

-Yes...

0:31:010:31:02

-Tell the people who sent you flowers.

-Well, I got flowers

0:31:020:31:05

in my dressing room, and the card said,

0:31:050:31:06

"We love you, Elton and David."

0:31:060:31:10

-Oh, my God!

-Yes.

0:31:100:31:12

He didn't get any flowers!

0:31:120:31:13

Listen, let's talk about the beard because, to my mind,

0:31:170:31:20

in this country, there's a legacy

0:31:200:31:22

of mainstream entertainers, from Danny LaRue, Dame Edna, Lily Savage,

0:31:220:31:28

but even here in Britain, people are a bit,

0:31:280:31:31

if not freaked out,

0:31:310:31:33

they are kind of confused by the beard.

0:31:330:31:35

Why do you think the beard is such a big deal?

0:31:350:31:37

Actually, I don't really... Well, I know it is something

0:31:370:31:41

that you don't see every day,

0:31:410:31:43

but I created this bearded lady to show everybody...

0:31:430:31:46

It is so cheesy, but you've just got one life,

0:31:460:31:49

and you better make it fabulous.

0:31:490:31:50

That is just my own truth.

0:31:500:31:52

I feel this stage persona,

0:31:520:31:54

and I felt more comfortable on stage.

0:31:540:31:58

Besides that, I am a member of the gay community,

0:31:580:32:02

and our stories are similar,

0:32:020:32:03

and being a teenager in this small village

0:32:030:32:06

wasn't the most fun thing on earth.

0:32:060:32:08

So, over the years, I tried to fit in,

0:32:080:32:11

and I changed myself in every way you can imagine.

0:32:110:32:14

I just wanted to be part of the game.

0:32:140:32:16

Then I realised, "Well, I create the game."

0:32:160:32:20

-Yeah. Absolutely.

-DAWN:

-Yeah.

0:32:200:32:23

Can I just say, the wonderful thing about watching you there,

0:32:260:32:30

and, as you say, you don't see this every day,

0:32:300:32:34

but A - it's amazingly glamorous,

0:32:340:32:36

and B - you completely inhabit your skin so beautifully.

0:32:360:32:39

And I think you raise so many questions,

0:32:390:32:42

but you're also all of the answers.

0:32:420:32:44

That is what is so great about you. There is no doubt.

0:32:440:32:47

So, Conchita Wurst, you are all over the papers, all over the internet,

0:32:500:32:55

so what is your plan now?

0:32:550:32:57

-Have you made a plan yet?

-No.

-Tick tock, make a plan.

0:32:570:33:02

I know! You know, our society is so fast,

0:33:020:33:06

and everything is so quick.

0:33:060:33:09

I want to try and sit back

0:33:090:33:14

and look and watch and choose wisely.

0:33:140:33:17

Do you have material for an album already?

0:33:170:33:20

Was that all there, or will you have to write new songs?

0:33:200:33:22

Oh, I have to make new stuff,

0:33:220:33:24

because, yeah, there are some songs,

0:33:240:33:28

but my goal is a Grammy,

0:33:280:33:31

so these songs better be good.

0:33:310:33:33

Yeah. You should ask Sia...

0:33:330:33:34

-Sia writes good songs.

-Yeah, I know.

0:33:340:33:37

I think America...

0:33:370:33:39

America is already...

0:33:390:33:41

It's weird, because America doesn't really pay attention to Eurovision,

0:33:410:33:44

but America has gone mad for you.

0:33:440:33:46

So, if I was you, I'd just go to Heathrow and go there.

0:33:460:33:48

I'm sure Elton will write you a song.

0:33:480:33:51

-Yes!

-I mean, come on.

0:33:510:33:53

-I'll ask him.

-Yeah, you should.

0:33:530:33:54

Or you could represent the UK at Eurovision next year.

0:33:540:33:57

-DAWN:

-Yeah! Yes, please.

0:33:570:33:59

Can you go back?

0:33:590:34:01

Yeah, you can.

0:34:020:34:04

Listen, Conchita, we are so happy that you have entered our lives,

0:34:040:34:08

-and good luck for the future.

-Thank you so much.

0:34:080:34:11

It's music time now.

0:34:110:34:13

This young man... Well, what an amazing year he's had.

0:34:130:34:15

He's won both the Critics Choice BRIT Award

0:34:150:34:17

and the BBC Sound of 2014 Award.

0:34:170:34:19

He's since gone on to top the charts,

0:34:190:34:21

and here he is with his current single Stay With Me.

0:34:210:34:24

Please welcome Sam Smith!

0:34:240:34:26

MUSIC: "Stay With Me" by Sam Smith

0:34:350:34:38

# I guess it's true, I'm not good at a one night stand

0:34:410:34:45

# But I still need love cos I'm just a man

0:34:470:34:50

# These nights never seem to go to plan

0:34:530:34:56

# I don't want you to leave

0:34:580:35:00

# Will you hold my hand?

0:35:000:35:02

# Oh, won't you stay with me?

0:35:020:35:06

# Cos you're all I need

0:35:080:35:12

# This ain't love, it's clear to see

0:35:140:35:19

# But, darling, stay with me

0:35:190:35:23

# Why am I so emotional?

0:35:270:35:29

# No, it's not a good look

0:35:320:35:33

# Gain some self control

0:35:330:35:35

# Deep down, I know this never works

0:35:370:35:42

# But you can lay with me so it doesn't hurt

0:35:420:35:47

# Oh, won't you stay with me?

0:35:470:35:53

# Cos you're all I need

0:35:530:35:57

# This ain't love, it's clear to see

0:35:580:36:04

# But, darling, stay with me

0:36:040:36:08

# Oh!

0:36:090:36:14

# Oh, no...

0:36:160:36:21

# Oh!

0:36:210:36:25

# No, no

0:36:270:36:31

# Oh, won't you stay with me?

0:36:310:36:36

# Cos you're all I need

0:36:370:36:41

# This ain't love, it's clear to see

0:36:430:36:47

# But, darling, stay with me

0:36:490:36:54

# Oh, won't you stay with me?

0:36:540:36:58

# Cos you're all I need

0:37:000:37:06

# This ain't love, it's clear to see

0:37:060:37:11

# But, darling, stay with me

0:37:110:37:15

# But, darling, stay with me

0:37:170:37:22

# But, darling, stay...

0:37:230:37:30

# With me. #

0:37:320:37:35

Sam Smith, everybody! How amazing.

0:37:420:37:45

That was beautiful.

0:37:450:37:47

Really, seriously. Really brilliant job. Sam Smith!

0:37:470:37:50

-Bear...

-Hello.

0:37:500:37:53

-This is Dawn.... Kirsten...

-Nice to meet you.

0:37:530:37:56

Beautiful, so good.

0:37:560:37:58

-I've loved your song ever since I saw you on SNL.

-Thank you.

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Conchita, Sam, Conchita.

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Hello! How are you?

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He's in there. He is in the mix.

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-There is your whiskey.

-Yes!

-It's like a dog treat to reward him.

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He was like, "I want a whiskey after I sing."

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Listen, congratulations. Huge congratulations.

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That is from the new album which isn't even out yet. 26th May.

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And that single is out on Sunday.

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Because you would not think that you could write

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a romantic song about a one night stand,

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but it's beautiful.

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It's not really romantic, it's more depressing.

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That's what I see as romantic.

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It's true. I try to see the beauty

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in something that is pretty disgusting, sometimes.

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You could always make them a nice breakfast.

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Try to cheer it up a bit. Toast, anyone?

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Here is the weird thing.

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I'm sure, to you, it doesn't feel like it has happened fast,

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but the album isn't even out yet,

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and you've already been to America, done the big shows.

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I saw Sam on SNL. I bought his song immediately.

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-Thank you.

-I've been listening to it a lot. It makes me want to cry.

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My girlfriend first saw you on SNL and said,

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"You have to watch SNL now", because I always watch it later.

0:39:170:39:20

She said, "This guy has an amazing voice. You have to watch it."

0:39:200:39:23

-So, congratulations. You deserve it.

-Amazing. Thank you.

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That was the scariest night of my life, SNL.

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-I bet.

-You did it so well.

-Thank you very much.

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You know what you should do next?

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Eurovision.

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I'm down.

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You are a young man, a young man.

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Do Eurovision.

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Right, before we go tonight,

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story time in the Red Chair.

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-Who's there? Hello!

-Hello!

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LAUGHTER

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-What's your name?

-My name is John.

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Where you from? America?

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I am from America, but I live just outside London now

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-in a little village called Claygate.

-Oh, I love it! What do you do?

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I am a youth pastor in the Church of England.

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Oh, right. OK. He's proper.

0:40:060:40:08

Off you go, John.

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So, when I was 11 years old,

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I was sitting in maths class, bored out of my mind,

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and I decided to see how much spit I could save up in my mouth

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in the course of the class.

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I'll just stop you there. I like John enormously.

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That is the sort of thing you did in school, didn't you?

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"I'll see how much spit I can get in my mouth."

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I love it.

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I stopped swallowing, and I realised...

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I didn't take long, about five minutes in,

0:40:330:40:36

my cheeks were bulging.

0:40:360:40:37

I thought, "I have an enormous amount of spit in my mouth",

0:40:370:40:41

and I was just sitting in class, and I thought,

0:40:410:40:45

"This is too disgusting to swallow."

0:40:450:40:47

I was overwhelmed by it.

0:40:470:40:49

Out of nowhere, this powerful sneeze comes on.

0:40:490:40:52

Spit coming way out of my mouth, hits the person next to me,

0:40:540:40:57

all over the floor, and the teacher stops teaching,

0:40:570:41:00

says, "John, that is nasty!"

0:41:000:41:02

I have to get a mop bucket, I'm mopping up my own spit.

0:41:020:41:04

And looking out, there's just a classroom of girls

0:41:040:41:07

with this disgusted look on their face.

0:41:070:41:10

That was it.

0:41:100:41:12

-You can walk.

-Yeah.

0:41:150:41:16

To be frank, I'm not sure there was much of a choice.

0:41:200:41:23

-Just saying.

-Sorry. I'm like, "Don't make him!"

0:41:270:41:30

-It is a funny story.

-It was.

0:41:310:41:33

It had no end. I feel he should work on an ending to the story

0:41:330:41:36

and it could do him for the rest of his life.

0:41:360:41:39

That's his story. One more.

0:41:390:41:41

-Hello?

-Hi. I'm Josh.

-Where are you from?

-Brixton.

0:41:410:41:46

-What do you do?

-I'm a tree surgeon.

0:41:460:41:49

Tree surgeon, everyone.

0:41:490:41:51

You can never find one when you need one, but here he is.

0:41:510:41:54

You will get work out of this.

0:41:540:41:57

Good with wood.

0:41:570:41:58

Yes!

0:41:580:42:00

That can be on the side of his van.

0:42:000:42:03

You must have to travel to be a tree surgeon.

0:42:030:42:06

There are trees in London...

0:42:060:42:08

I've seen them.

0:42:080:42:10

There are trees in London, Conchita.

0:42:140:42:16

Josh is your man if you need any surgery on a tree.

0:42:180:42:21

OK, John. Off you go with your story. Josh. Whatever your name is.

0:42:210:42:24

When I was a forester, I was living in Devon,

0:42:240:42:27

and we were cutting trees down and they were

0:42:270:42:31

falling and there was this one that didn't quite fall down,

0:42:310:42:34

and we forgot about it and carried on,

0:42:340:42:36

and we said, "Right, let's have some lunch."

0:42:360:42:39

We sat down, eating lunch, chatting away,

0:42:390:42:42

and suddenly everybody gets up and starts running past me.

0:42:420:42:45

I'm like, "What's happening?"

0:42:450:42:47

Suddenly, I turn round, and this tree is coming down on top of me

0:42:470:42:51

and I moved out the way and rolled,

0:42:510:42:53

and literally by inches, it landed by the side of me,

0:42:530:42:56

and I lost my lunch.

0:42:560:42:59

It had the makings of a good story but it wasn't enough.

0:43:060:43:09

Bear was liking it, though.

0:43:090:43:11

It was a near death incident. By that much.

0:43:110:43:15

-If it was two inches to the right...

-And he lost his lunch.

0:43:150:43:19

Well done, everyone.

0:43:190:43:21

If you'd like to join us on the show and have a go in the Red Chair,

0:43:210:43:24

you can contact us via our website at this address...

0:43:240:43:27

Thank you to my guests tonight.

0:43:270:43:29

Sam Smith, everybody!

0:43:290:43:32

Bear Grylls!

0:43:320:43:34

Dawn French!

0:43:340:43:37

Kirsten Dunst!

0:43:370:43:40

And the one and only Conchita Wurst!

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Join me next week with Hollywood stars Jonah Hill

0:43:440:43:47

and Channing Tatum, musical maestro Pharrell Williams,

0:43:470:43:49

and, in a rare appearance, the one and only Dame Julie Andrews.

0:43:490:43:54

I'll see you then! Goodnight! Goodbye!

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