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Hey, everyone, it's the first show of 2016!

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And, as my New Year's resolution,

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I'm going to be taking part in Dry January.

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Yeah. What?

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It's dry white wine.

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Let's start the show.

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APPLAUSE

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This programme contains some strong language

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Oh, oh, oh! CHEERING

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Hello, good evening, everybody.

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Welcome, one. Welcome, all.

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This is it, everyone. This is it.

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It's 2016, it is 2016. Everyone have a good break?

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-AUDIENCE, ENTHUSIASTICALLY:

-Yes!

-Some of you still on it.

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We've got a great first show of the year for you.

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Some great guests, including one

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of the stars of the original Cold Feet,

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which is coming back later this year. Did you know this?

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Now, I loved Cold Feet and, apparently,

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even the Queen, huge fan of Cold Feet.

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Of course, you'll remember my guest in that infamous rose scene.

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Hmm.

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I wonder what happened to that rose.

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Oh, Your Majesty! Let's get some guests on.

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Later, we have music from James Bay.

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But, first, the owner of that pert bottom,

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he's been in some of the biggest British TV dramas of the last

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two decades, Cold Feet, Murphy's Law and, of course,

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The Missing. Now he's back in Stan Lee's Lucky Man,

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lucky me, it's James Nesbitt.

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APPLAUSE There he is. Hello, sir.

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Lovely to see you, have a seat.

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She's an actress, comedian, singer and writer with a Bafta,

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Golden Globe and seven Emmys to her name.

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Now, after 30 years, she's returning to the BBC

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with a brand-new sketch show.

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It's the fabulous Tracey Ullman, everybody.

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APPLAUSE

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Hello. It's like I'm welcoming you back on behalf of the nation.

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And he's one of Britain's finest actors. He moved us

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in The English Patient, made us laugh in The Grand Budapest Hotel

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and terrified us as Lord Voldemort in the Harry Potter films,

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please welcome, for the first time to the show,

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the great Ralph Fiennes, everybody.

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APPLAUSE

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Hello, sir, how are you? Very well.

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Greet each other, greet each other.

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That was just showbiz greeting, though.

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You have said hello back there, right?

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Yes, we have, we did it all again.

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You didn't sit back there going, "Don't look at them.

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"Keep it fresh, keep it fresh."

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Do you know each other? Do you...? We do.

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-Ralph and I do.

-I know you, yeah.

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-Not in the biblical sense.

-No.

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James, you were directed by Ralph.

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I was directed by Ralph, I was beaten up by Ralph in the film,

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a version of Shakespeare's Coriolanus, which was amazing.

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I was very scared, actually.

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I hadn't done Shakespeare in a long time.

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-You were brilliant in it.

-Since I was at drama school with you, actually,

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-that's how long ago it was.

-Wow! And how bad it was.

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-Were you at drama school together?

-He was a bit older than me...

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You'd never know it, all the same.

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Yes, no, Ralph asked me to come.

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And it was brilliant, actually, we had a laugh.

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It is a new year and

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a very happy New Year for one James Nesbitt because you were on

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-the Honours list.

-I was.

-You are.

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You're not struck off or anything.

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-You're still on it, you're still on it.

-Depends how this show goes.

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-What did you get?

-I got an OBE.

-Very good.

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APPLAUSE

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-Actually, yes, cheers to that.

-Any excuse.

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Are your mum and dad both still around?

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Well, my mum's not around, no. Dad was very pleased. Dad said,

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"About bloody time," actually.

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My friends, I think, were pleased.

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One of them, Jason Ferguson, a very good friend of mine,

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he said, "Order of the Bell End, about time."

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It's exciting. It's a day out at the Palace for me and my girls.

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Do you know who you're getting yet?

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-You get different people, do you?

-There's a whole family of them.

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-There is, isn't there? There's loads of them.

-I wasn't aware of that.

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There's like a pack of cards.

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Where are you going?

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I think you go to the Palace, do you?

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I don't know!

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I'll probably get Edward.

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I will now!

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You'll probably go, "Oh, sh..."

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Ralph, you haven't got anything yet?

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-No.

-No, no. I feel like you should.

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You are genuinely posh.

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-He got one, he got one.

-It's all surface.

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I'm not posh inside.

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Tracey Ullman, I've a feeling, whatever chances you had...

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-I ain't gettin' one!

-Yeah, you're really not getting one now.

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No chance.

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-No, because in the new show...

-Yeah.

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-..you do a version of one of them.

-Yeah.

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-Do you?

-Ha, "do you?"

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Yes, Camilla.

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Yes, there I am.

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Isn't that good? Isn't that amazing?

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I had a lovely time being her. I will present you with your, er...

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CBE. I'll do it now. I'll do it. Would you like her to do it?

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-I love being her.

-It's quite specific, how she is.

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What have you done? When do you do her?

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Within my show, which comes out next Monday...

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It's a sketch show, we'll talk about it more. Yeah, yeah.

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This is actually your bit, Ralph...

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Don't shine the light there right now.

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Erm, genius, genius make-ups and things. I'm various people.

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She's a tough character, your Camilla.

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-PLUMMY ACCENT:

-Yes, she vapes a lot and she's, you know,

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dealing with horses a lot, she picks up the phone and it's Charles

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and says, "Hello, sexy."

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We like her. It's very affectionate, VERY affectionate(!)

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I'm ain't going to get one of those things at the Palace.

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-No, you're really not.

-No, no, we all knew that.

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Tracey Ullman, is it odd that

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your very first show in America

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was the one that spawned The Simpsons?

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-Yes.

-Did you... Are you a creator of The Simpsons?

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I breast-fed the yellow people.

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Yeah. Yes.

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We wanted little cartoon segments, you know, as bumpers on the show.

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There was this blue hair of Marge, I remember that specifically.

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And then I was so busy doing all these parts

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on the show they came and said,

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"We need someone to record the voices, you know."

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-AS MARGE:

-"OK, I'll do it."

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This voice, so she was Marge.

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Then Dan Castellaneta said...

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-AS HOMER:

-"OK, I don't mind, what do you want me to be?"

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So he was Homer.

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And that was it, that very first week.

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And then, who knew?

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I knew it was big.

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I think I went to Italy next summer for my holiday

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and there was like Italian Simpsons a-bath foam.

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-So anyway, yup, The Simpsons started on my show.

-Yes.

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APPLAUSE

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Now, Ralph Fiennes, how busy are you?!

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We just enjoyed you in your last outing as M in Spectre.

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You're sticking with that now.

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-You're M forever. For a while, anyway.

-I've got one more I think

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and then it's up to them whether they want me back.

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They'll want you back, they will. They'll want you back!

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That's like your dream job, I mean, you were a Bond geek.

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I was a Bond geek when I was a teenager, yeah

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Is it true you would do trivia quizzes on...?

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I knew all the Bond books inside out. I can't answer

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Mastermind questions now but I read them all least three times.

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-Wow!

-I knew all about Kissy Suzuki and Solitaire

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and Gala Brand and...Honeychile Rider and...

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Presumably you wanted to be HIM, not M.

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Yes...

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Not to piss on your parade.

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As a kid you weren't thinking, "Oh, one day I might be M."

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-No, well, years go on...

-You're in it, be happy.

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-You're in a franchise, great!

-I'm very happy.

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Here's the thing, you are coming back to the stage,

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and then it's all about you,

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in The Master Builder. It's at the Old Vic, just round the corner here.

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Previews on the 23rd of January, opening on the 3rd of February.

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A glance, a cursory glance at this audience, and you can guess

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-they know their Ibsen pretty well.

-They know their Ibsen inside out(!)

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For the couple of them who don't know,

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what's The Master Builder about?

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-A master builder.

-I'm glad.

-Who's going through

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-a midlife crisis.

-No!

-And into his life walks a young,

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-23-year-old girl.

-Ka-ching.

-Ka-ching.

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Bums on seats, here we go.

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Who wants him to build a very tall, erect tower that goes

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high, high, high into the sky

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and this is a proposal that excites him a lot.

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You don't need to be Freud.

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I'm working with a fantastic young

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Australian actress called Sarah Snook,

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who plays the young girl. She is seriously a gifted lady.

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-She inspires you.

-She does, she inspires me to build a spire.

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Yes. See what we did there? All the way round.

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Yes, very good. I suppose a lot of people...

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I say a lot of people, me. ..would imagine that

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when you get to the level of success you have achieved in films, there

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would be a temptation to walk away from the heavy lifting of seven,

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eight shows a week and the long stretch of that but, no,

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you keep coming back to it.

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Well, I love it. This is an amazing play, I believe.

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I'm working with the great director Matthew Warchus,

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who's fantastic and, for me, there's nothing that beats being in front

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of an audience, and feeling the play evolve in front of them,

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you tell them a story and every night it's different.

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You go on a journey and it's not the same as filming.

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Have you been in The Master Builder?

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Yeah, I played The Master Builder at drama school.

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How tall was your spire?

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It drooped a wee bit, to tell the truth.

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I hear that you've never had any complaints...

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-That was the OBE.

-The bells make up for it.

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No, I erm...

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In fact, you should have seen it when we were at drama school.

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I was in the year above you.

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I probably did!

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George Hall...

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Yes, no, the PERFORMANCE!

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LAUGHTER AND APPLAUSE

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All the students were talking.

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George Hall, who was the director, who was the head of Central,

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his critique afterwards, he looked at me and said,

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"Jimmy, you missed."

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So it wasn't a great performance, I give.

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So I hope you'll do better. I'm sure you'll do better.

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"The reviews are in. Ralph Fiennes, you missed."

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That is pretty great.

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Was it in a Shakespeare play

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where you had your costume... What do you call that thing?

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What do they call it? A wardrobe malfunction.

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I had a major wardrobe malfunction.

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It was in a Shakespeare play, a comedy called Love's Labours Lost,

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and I played a character

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called Berowne who has an amazing speech about love.

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Very romantic speech, full of ardour.

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It's off the back of a very high-comedic farcical scene

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and suddenly it stops and he launches into this lyrical passage

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about how important it is to love women.

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And, erm, I had these very tight

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moleskin britches and, as I got into my stride, they split...

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-Oi!

-..down the middle.

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But that's an odd place for them to split.

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What can I tell you?

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GRAHAM LAUGHS HEARTILY

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I'm glad I was not going commando that day and I had red...

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..polka-dot underpants on.

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Did people think it was meant to happen?

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No. They enjoyed it.

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Were you tempted to do it every night after that?

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I was on with three other actors,

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barely holding it together. Finally I got to the end of

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the speech and we got a round of applause.

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I've been in panto, I bet

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-you've not done bloody panto.

-No. A matter of time.

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30 years ago I was Dick Whittington in Newcastle.

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-That's theatre for you.

-AUDIENCE: Yeah!

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I got a bit chubby cos I got a bit depressed up there,

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I was eating at this tearoom a lot, Carrick's.

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I used to go on, I got a bit chubby in my stockings, you know,

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Dick Whittington,

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I'd go, "Hello, children. Are you going to be my friend?"

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One of the kids went...

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-GEORDIE ACCENT:

-"No, fuck off, Jumbo!"

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That's theatre for you. When they talk back.

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"Right, what's your name?" "Terry."

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Annoying little bastard in the front, you know.

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All the nuns are in with the coach party and it was horrible.

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-You've been scarred by that.

-Oh, I've been scarred by it.

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Scarred. Ralph, you haven't given up film because your new movie is

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-A Bigger Splash.

-Yup.

-When does that...?

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12th of February, 12th of February.

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It's a fantastic cast, you can see there.

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Tilda Swinton, Dakota Johnson, yourself,

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-Matthias Schoenaerts?

-Schoenaerts.

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Now, it's almost a love quadrangle.

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Love quadrangle, yeah.

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I don't think I've ever seen you play a part like this before,

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you're kind of wild in this.

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-I'm a wild and crazy guy.

-You really are.

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LAUGHTER

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The idea is, people who kind of share a romantic history

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are all thrown together on a Greek island...

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-It's an Italian island.

-An Italian island, not a Greek island.

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-Pantelleria. It's an island between Sicily and Tunisia.

-OK.

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Near Greece. And, erm...

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-Oh, Graham.

-That was tense, I think.

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Your character... The idea is you're trying to rekindle a romance.

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-I've come back to reclaim Tilda Swinton.

-Who's a rock star.

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Who is a rock star on holiday, recovering from a throat operation

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with her younger boyfriend lover, Matthias Schoenaerts.

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I was her beau in the past and we split up,

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and I passed my friend Matthias on to Tilda.

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I've put them together and gone and now I've come back to reclaim her.

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Cos I realise I made a big mistake.

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This is the clip from The Biggest Splash and, in fact,

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it is a night on the town just

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when you're starting to woo Tilda's character,

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who's resting her voice.

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# If I had her

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# In my hands your body and soul

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WHOOPING

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-SHE WHISPERS:

-# Come, come, come to me

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CROWD FINISHES LYRIC

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-SHE WHISPERS:

-# Come, come, come to me

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SHE WHISPERS

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# Come, come, come to me

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SHE STUMBLES

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# Come, come, come to me... #

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SHE WHISPERS

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CROWD CHANTS

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Very good. APPLAUSE

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In it, you're very kind of relaxed, very free, you're very...

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We see a lot of you.

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We see your spire.

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In miniature, I think.

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No, it's fine, it's all there. It's all there.

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The potential is there.

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The sequel.

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-Completely naked? Everything?

-Everything.

-The old chap?

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-The old chap.

-Wow, good for you!

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-No messing.

-Usually it's just the girls, I'm proud of you.

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-Oh, no, Tilda does it too.

-She does it.

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Girls always do.

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Tracey Ullman, have you ever...? Have you ever... ?

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No, no, I've not done it. Prosthetic ones, I do prosthetic ones.

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-Yes.

-No, I've never been asked.

-Would you?

-Would you?

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No.

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You're being asked now. Look, Ralph Fiennes is asking you.

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I will for you.

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I'll sit over here on my own.

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We've seen you, you've done the TV nudity. We saw it in Cold Feet.

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You did it too? Oh, that's is just bum, not the old chap.

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-Is that you?

-Yeah, that is really you, isn't it?

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Your audience has really waited too long to see that again.

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The last job I did...

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When I did it with that guy, when I did it there,

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the dresser that fitted it was a guy called Greg, a big...

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unusually, in the business, a big butch lad from Australia, actually.

0:17:210:17:25

Oh, no, from Manchester called Greg.

0:17:250:17:27

His name is pasted into the buttocks of my memory.

0:17:300:17:33

He spent all day having to reapply, to re-stick the rose there.

0:17:340:17:39

After that job he disappeared, he went to Australia!

0:17:390:17:42

No-one has ever heard from him since! The last job

0:17:440:17:47

I've just finished in Belfast, I had to do a fair amount of...

0:17:470:17:50

a day of sort of...

0:17:500:17:53

nudity and sex scenes and stuff but they covered my bits with a wee...

0:17:530:17:59

I shouldn't say a "wee".

0:17:590:18:01

So Northern Irish Protestant, "wee," you think...

0:18:030:18:07

With a pouch that kept coming apart. So again the dresser,

0:18:070:18:10

Sophie she was called, she had to spend a day kind of reapplying...

0:18:100:18:13

These jobs aren't easy. I am sure that's not why she

0:18:130:18:16

-went into the business.

-It's not for the faint hearted.

0:18:160:18:19

No, she can't have thought, "Oh, look what I am doing today!"

0:18:190:18:22

The new Cold Feet, are the scripts ready? Have you started filming?

0:18:220:18:26

What's happening?

0:18:260:18:27

No, we start in... Old Feet.

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We start in three weeks' time.

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-Wow.

-We've got a read-through next week.

0:18:330:18:35

I haven't seen a lot of them for, you know...

0:18:350:18:37

Well, I haven't seen loads of them for 12 years, really.

0:18:370:18:41

I mean, we didn't sort of get together. We didn't

0:18:410:18:43

sort of deliberately keep apart, it's just the nature of the thing.

0:18:430:18:46

We are going to see each other

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in two weeks and the scripts look good, they've tried

0:18:490:18:52

to get us to do it for a number of years. I think it wasn't

0:18:520:18:56

quite ready, they hadn't

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quite sorted out the various zeros on the cheques.

0:18:580:19:01

We're very excited to do it.

0:19:010:19:03

It was weird, I just saw Helen Baxendale, she was just in Midsomer Murders.

0:19:030:19:06

Well, she's not in it, of course, cos she died.

0:19:060:19:08

Of course, she died.

0:19:080:19:10

She survived in Midsomer Murders, that's a feat

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for a guest star! Well done her.

0:19:140:19:18

We've been waiting 12 years for new Cold Feet,

0:19:180:19:21

but we've been waiting even longer

0:19:210:19:22

-for Tracey Ullman to get back on the BBC, it's 30 years.

-30 years!

0:19:220:19:28

You must be shocked that it's 30 years.

0:19:280:19:30

I mean, I just never got offered a job in this country.

0:19:320:19:35

Seriously, I'm always coming and going. I was really flattered to

0:19:350:19:38

be asked, and Charlotte Moore is the head of BBC One, and Myfanwy Moore

0:19:380:19:43

is the head of comedy,

0:19:430:19:44

these two girls just asked me to come in and said,

0:19:440:19:46

"Is there anything you'd like to do?"

0:19:460:19:48

The last time I was at the BBC,

0:19:480:19:50

it was all men in bow ties doing The Goons.

0:19:500:19:52

"What, what, what? We need more national service jokes."

0:19:520:19:55

It was!

0:19:550:19:58

"Can you be a traffic warden? Ha-ha-ha!"

0:19:580:20:00

I had a good time. I had a great time with Lenny and David,

0:20:020:20:05

it was a long time ago.

0:20:050:20:07

Then various things happened.

0:20:070:20:10

I was back at the BBC,

0:20:100:20:11

I have absolutely loved it, I've had a brilliant time.

0:20:110:20:14

-This is Tracey Ullman's Show.

-Yes, Tracey Ullman's Show.

0:20:140:20:18

It starts next Monday at 10:45.

0:20:180:20:20

It's funny... I was saying to you outside,

0:20:200:20:22

it is hard to come up with a sketch show that has fresh characters in it

0:20:220:20:26

but this is...it really does.

0:20:260:20:27

Well, it's Britain today. To me, it's a melting pot,

0:20:270:20:31

it's this global hub, it's a 24-hour period of Britain,

0:20:310:20:35

and people come in and people go out

0:20:350:20:37

and people try and get in and people get thrown out...

0:20:370:20:40

Famous people within it,

0:20:400:20:42

there's a through story of what happens from dawn to dusk.

0:20:420:20:45

It's tonnes of different things.

0:20:470:20:49

Lots of impersonations, which I have never really done before.

0:20:490:20:52

Yeah, no, but... Now, the famous people...

0:20:520:20:55

You do people like Dame Judi Dench, Maggie Smith, Angela Merkel.

0:20:550:20:58

The Angela Merkel, there's a sitcom in Angela Merkel. There really...

0:20:580:21:01

You just want more and more of Angela Merkel.

0:21:010:21:04

-There she is.

-There's Angela Merkel.

0:21:040:21:06

-GERMAN ACCENT:

-That's right, Angela Merkel, I love her,

0:21:060:21:08

I think that she's always with men all the time,

0:21:080:21:11

with Berlusconi and Cameron and Obama,

0:21:110:21:14

and she wants to just be with girls. I got this idea that I think

0:21:140:21:19

she thinks she's very sexy.

0:21:190:21:21

Everybody is...right now... I am sex bomb, sex bomb...

0:21:230:21:26

..when I'm in the room.

0:21:270:21:29

And then I wanted to do her with her friend.

0:21:290:21:32

She does her arms like this. Anyway.

0:21:320:21:35

I digress. She sings and everything, we discovered.

0:21:360:21:39

-She sings beautifully.

-She is terrific.

0:21:390:21:42

-Ja.

-She is terrific.

-Eurovision winner 1982.

0:21:420:21:46

Called A Little Peace. Remember that song? Ja, was wonderful...wunderbar.

0:21:480:21:52

Anyway, I don't know, I wanted to be her, so I am her.

0:21:520:21:57

Do you come up with the funny bit first? Like the joke or

0:21:570:22:00

do you kind of think, "I can do them, write me something funny for them?"

0:22:000:22:04

Yeah, I wanted to be a series of national treasures,

0:22:040:22:06

cos that's what we have in this country.

0:22:060:22:08

Kevin and Andy, Kevin Cecil and Andy Riley,

0:22:080:22:12

came up with the wonderful idea that,

0:22:120:22:14

-JUDI DENCH VOICE:

-Judi Dench can get away with anything

0:22:140:22:17

because she's a national treasure. So she can shoplift.

0:22:170:22:20

Then I got this brilliant make-up, and then it comes from there.

0:22:210:22:26

-Anyway.

-We've got a clip, this

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is you as Dame Judi Dench being a

0:22:280:22:30

national treasure at the supermarket.

0:22:300:22:32

Oi! I saw that, do you want me to call the police?

0:22:470:22:51

I don't know what you mean.

0:22:510:22:53

-Oh, it's you, isn't it?

-If you mean, "Is it Dame Judi Dench?"

0:22:530:22:56

then, yes, it is. How very nice to meet you.

0:22:560:22:59

Sorry about that.

0:22:590:23:00

There must be something wrong with the security camera.

0:23:000:23:02

Yes, well, they can be temperamental.

0:23:020:23:05

I loved you in James Bond.

0:23:050:23:06

Oh, we just try to tell a good story. And thank you.

0:23:060:23:11

What was I thinking? Dame Judi Dench wouldn't shoplift.

0:23:110:23:14

-You're a national treasure.

-Exactly.

0:23:140:23:16

And because I'm a national treasure, I could get away with anything!

0:23:160:23:20

But, of course, I don't. What is that over there?

0:23:200:23:24

-My mistake.

-It's an honour meeting you.

-Yes. Lovely to meet you too.

0:23:270:23:32

You have such a lovely shop here.

0:23:320:23:34

SHE CACKLES

0:23:460:23:49

APPLAUSE That was uncanny, wasn't it?

0:23:490:23:51

Brilliant, brilliant, brilliant make-up,

0:23:560:23:58

Floris my genius make-up artist. We were

0:23:580:24:01

filming in Richmond, actually.

0:24:010:24:02

WHOOPING Big up the Richmond!

0:24:020:24:05

Somebody from Richmond? Yeah, how lovely. I might do panto there

0:24:050:24:08

this year. People thought we were filming something from Bond.

0:24:080:24:12

A couple of them got convinced.

0:24:120:24:14

You know Dame Judi Dench.

0:24:140:24:16

What's she going to make of it, Ralph?

0:24:160:24:18

-I think she'll love it.

-Oh, thank God! Really?

0:24:180:24:21

She might start shoplifting, actually.

0:24:210:24:23

She's going to become a shoplifter.

0:24:230:24:25

They'll want her back on Bond.

0:24:250:24:28

-You were in it together.

-We were in it together.

0:24:310:24:33

-Right.

-She wasn't happy that I took over as M.

0:24:330:24:37

-Really?

-Oh. Why not?

0:24:370:24:39

-Well, cos I replaced her.

-Oh.

0:24:390:24:41

In fairness, that would piss you off.

0:24:420:24:45

So, she...

0:24:450:24:48

In the first one I appeared in, my name is Mallory,

0:24:480:24:51

so a way of getting back to me was to call me Valerie.

0:24:510:24:54

Any time I meet her she would say, "Hello, Valerie!"

0:24:550:24:59

And she nicks things from your house.

0:24:590:25:02

So if you stay in that Judi Dench make-up all day,

0:25:020:25:05

you obviously don't mind the prosthetics and the costumes

0:25:050:25:07

because, Ralph, you hate prosthetics and things, don't you?

0:25:070:25:10

-I don't love them, no.

-You choose jobs to avoid them.

0:25:100:25:14

-After Voldemort, I did, I have. Yup, yup.

-It's hard.

-How much

0:25:140:25:17

of it is prosthetics on Voldemort?

0:25:170:25:19

Actually, to be honest, on Voldemort not so much.

0:25:190:25:21

-A lot of painting and...

-Oi-oi-oi.

0:25:210:25:24

-Very little, actually!

-Teeth, the eyes...

0:25:240:25:27

More or less... I see what you mean.

0:25:290:25:32

-Latex round the eyes.

-They shaved the beard off, right?

0:25:320:25:35

Wasn't there a moment when

0:25:380:25:40

you knew the Voldemort look was working when you were on set?

0:25:400:25:44

Yeah, I passed by...

0:25:440:25:45

The script supervisor has a little boy who was on set.

0:25:450:25:49

-His son, maybe?

-Her, her son, I think four or five years old.

0:25:490:25:53

Anyway, I passed by this little child, I looked at this boy,

0:25:530:25:56

he just burst into tears.

0:25:560:25:57

The costume must have helped as well because it's quite frightening.

0:26:080:26:11

The costume actually wasn't...

0:26:110:26:13

It was just a lot of flowing silky stuff

0:26:130:26:15

that I kept tripping over.

0:26:150:26:17

I had these tights on underneath.

0:26:170:26:20

-They were like ladies' tights.

-And they ripped in the middle!

0:26:200:26:24

LAUGHTER DROWNS OUT SPEECH

0:26:240:26:27

-No, they didn't rip.

-I like that they were ladies' tights!

0:26:270:26:30

Are there other sorts of tights?

0:26:300:26:32

-They're not the sort of tights you wear at the RSC.

-Oh, OK.

0:26:330:26:36

You did have a problem.

0:26:380:26:39

What happened was the tights used to work their way down,

0:26:390:26:42

so the gusset of the tight was sort of around my knees.

0:26:420:26:46

So I couldn't walk as elegantly as I would like as Voldemort.

0:26:460:26:50

Eventually I said to the dresser, he was called Neil,

0:26:500:26:52

he was very sweet. He always had his head up my skirt

0:26:520:26:54

trying to adjust things. I said, would he mind cutting them off?

0:26:540:26:59

So I had a garter belt.

0:26:590:27:01

For most of Harry Potter, underneath the robes,

0:27:010:27:03

I had a very nice garter belt.

0:27:030:27:06

You've spoiled it for everybody now.

0:27:060:27:09

Now, here's the thing, James Nesbitt. In the Hobbit,

0:27:100:27:13

I look at this picture of you in The Hobbit,

0:27:130:27:15

I think, "Well, that's not bad, it's a hat and a beard,"

0:27:150:27:18

but, in fact, there was loads of prosthetics went on.

0:27:180:27:22

Oh, aye, there were early starts in the morning.

0:27:220:27:25

It took quite a while.

0:27:250:27:27

If you are doing it for... It was astonishing, the look and the way

0:27:270:27:32

they create it, and I admire and applaud the incredible detail and

0:27:320:27:37

-artistry, but...

-But!

0:27:370:27:38

After two years, it takes a wee...

0:27:400:27:43

You sent us a picture of what... So underneath...

0:27:430:27:46

-But you can't see any of that.

-That was me getting up in the morning.

0:27:460:27:50

How long did it take altogether?

0:27:520:27:54

The whole thing every morning,

0:27:540:27:55

I suppose, about three and a half hours long.

0:27:550:27:58

-Listen, beats working for a living!

-I would like to be in

0:27:590:28:02

a film... No, I wouldn't.

0:28:020:28:05

Not easy being me, terrible.

0:28:050:28:07

Is it true that they in fact didn't really want you to

0:28:070:28:09

look like you in The Hobbit?

0:28:090:28:11

Thank you, yes.

0:28:110:28:13

But there is some truth to that.

0:28:130:28:15

Wasn't there a dinner?

0:28:150:28:17

Oh, no, no, no, that was because...

0:28:170:28:19

I constantly... And, in fact, twice today, every day I get

0:28:200:28:25

confused with the actor John Hannah.

0:28:250:28:27

John Hannah who was in... I don't think I look like him at all.

0:28:270:28:30

We've got a picture of John Hannah. Where is he?

0:28:300:28:33

Oh, come on!

0:28:330:28:34

-You do look a bit...

-I wouldn't mind looking like him there!

0:28:340:28:37

He looks quite well.

0:28:370:28:39

We are the spit of each other!

0:28:390:28:40

I get it all the time and right at the beginning of The Hobbit

0:28:420:28:45

I went for a private dinner with Peter Jackson and his partner and

0:28:450:28:51

one of the heads of Warner Brothers who were behind the movie.

0:28:510:28:56

I walked in and he said,

0:28:560:28:59

"I am so excited you are involved in The Hobbit,

0:28:590:29:02

"I loved you so much in Sliding Doors."

0:29:020:29:04

I was like, "That's not me!"

0:29:060:29:09

I've still never really understood.

0:29:090:29:11

Did he think they'd cast John Hannah?

0:29:110:29:13

I sign John's name quite often, he signs mine.

0:29:140:29:18

It gets to the point where people come up to me

0:29:180:29:20

and go, "I loved you in Four Weddings and a Funeral," I say,

0:29:200:29:23

"Yes, that Auden poem, it's so beautiful.

0:29:230:29:25

"Blah, blah, blah, Stop All The Clocks, John Hannah."

0:29:250:29:27

Quite often I'll do James Nesbitt, and you see them walking

0:29:270:29:30

away and going, "Oh, man..."

0:29:300:29:33

What do you get? You get someone.

0:29:350:29:37

-I get mistaken for Liam Neeson.

-Oh, you do?

-And he does for me,

0:29:370:29:40

I have been complimented in my performance in Taken 2.

0:29:400:29:43

I get, "You were wonderful in Educating Rita! So much fun."

0:29:470:29:51

Do you really get Julie Walters?

0:29:510:29:53

Yeah, everyone thinks I'm Julie Walters.

0:29:530:29:55

-I don't have a picture of Julie Walters.

-I do look like her.

0:29:550:29:57

We've got a Liam Neeson, we've got a Liam Neeson

0:29:570:29:59

but I don't think you do look particularly like Liam Neeson.

0:29:590:30:02

Well...no. Hmm...

0:30:020:30:06

Apparently, they've got one thing in common, those two boys.

0:30:060:30:09

That's all I'm saying.

0:30:090:30:10

Scratches head, doesn't understand.

0:30:120:30:14

Does he get confused for you?

0:30:160:30:17

Yes, he's been complimented on his English Patient.

0:30:170:30:20

Everything sounds rude.

0:30:230:30:25

It does with Liam and Ralph.

0:30:270:30:29

Being in the Hobbit, a big franchise like that,

0:30:320:30:36

did it make you a cool dad for your girls?

0:30:360:30:39

No, they're much cooler and funnier than me.

0:30:390:30:43

The eldest one, from a very early age, she was very funny.

0:30:430:30:46

She was startlingly quick at being able to speak.

0:30:460:30:50

She was talking when she was just two.

0:30:500:30:53

She had a sense of humour very early on.

0:30:530:30:55

There was one time when I was driving when she was two and a half,

0:30:550:30:58

it was just the two of us in the car and I was driving and

0:30:580:31:02

I broke wind.

0:31:020:31:03

But there was this five-second pause and, on my daughters' lives,

0:31:050:31:09

from the back of the car came,

0:31:090:31:11

"Another Minging Fart by James Nesbitt."

0:31:110:31:14

-Two and a half!

-That's good.

0:31:170:31:21

Where does that come from?

0:31:210:31:22

Tracey, you seem to like the idea of being an embarrassing mother.

0:31:230:31:27

You do... You just become a permanent figure of fun as you get

0:31:270:31:30

older with your kids.

0:31:300:31:31

I did something really embarrassing with my kid Johnny as few years ago

0:31:310:31:34

when I was still having to buy him swimming trunks for his holiday.

0:31:340:31:37

You know, you take the kid to buy swimming trunks, he's like,

0:31:370:31:39

"Come on, let's go." I took him to this kind of fancy boutique place

0:31:390:31:42

around the corner, they didn't have anything, really.

0:31:420:31:45

You know, it was like Speedos and he's not

0:31:450:31:47

a Speedo kind of kid, he needs something with a bit of

0:31:470:31:49

an elasticated waist, a quick-dry gusset.

0:31:490:31:53

I should have gone to British Home Stores

0:31:530:31:54

but I thought I'd take him somewhere nice.

0:31:540:31:56

I saw this very gorgeous young black assistant

0:31:560:32:00

amongst the rails doing stuff. I said, "Excuse me, can you help me?

0:32:000:32:04

"My son's looking for something, elasticated waist, quick dry gusset.

0:32:040:32:07

"He's a little chunk star." And Johnny's going, "Mum, Mum, Mum."

0:32:070:32:11

I'm going, "Johnny, I'm going to ask the man,

0:32:110:32:13

"let me just, let me just..."

0:32:130:32:14

"Mum, Mum, Mum, it's Kanye West."

0:32:140:32:16

Now that's embarrassing, that.

0:32:210:32:23

I didn't know.

0:32:250:32:26

He was very nice but he was holding something...

0:32:290:32:32

He went, you know,

0:32:320:32:33

"I guess you think I'm cool. I'm working in this store.

0:32:330:32:35

"That's OK. He thinks I'm cool." Oi-oi-oi!

0:32:350:32:38

Poor Johnny. I didn't give it up.

0:32:380:32:39

I saw him getting in the lift, I was like,

0:32:390:32:42

"Excuse me, I'm terribly sorry about that." Johnny was like, "Enough now!"

0:32:420:32:46

This was British Home Stores?

0:32:460:32:48

Then I just went to British Home Stores.

0:32:480:32:50

-Would have been better if it was.

-Take the kid to...

0:32:500:32:53

Well, James Nesbitt, supercool now,

0:32:530:32:56

because he's bringing us Sky 1's big adaptation of Stan Lee's

0:32:560:33:00

Lucky Man, which starts on Friday, January the 22nd.

0:33:000:33:06

Of course, this is Stan Lee, he created all the Marvel characters.

0:33:060:33:10

He co-created Spider-Man and Thor and Iron Man and Captain America,

0:33:100:33:15

all those things,

0:33:150:33:16

quite a long time ago. This was something he had always thought of.

0:33:160:33:22

He used to be asked, "What would your superpower be?"

0:33:220:33:25

He liked the idea of controlling luck.

0:33:250:33:27

This is a contemporary sort of quite glossy,

0:33:270:33:30

fast-moving thriller set in London,

0:33:300:33:35

in which London plays a big part, actually, and it looks amazing,

0:33:350:33:39

about a cop who's down on his luck,

0:33:390:33:41

he's a compulsive gambler, this is who I play.

0:33:410:33:44

And he meets this mysterious woman who, after

0:33:450:33:48

spending a night with her at a casino,

0:33:480:33:50

where he has finally won some money, he spends the night with her,

0:33:500:33:53

he wakes up in the morning with this ancient bracelet upon his wrist,

0:33:530:33:57

which seems to be able to control luck.

0:33:570:34:02

But there is a price to pay. It's very much of that genre.

0:34:020:34:06

But for you it must be just fun. As an actor, you must love doing it.

0:34:060:34:10

It was just magic. Particularly on the back of stuff I had done

0:34:100:34:14

recently, this was very different.

0:34:140:34:17

The notion of luck is something that appeals to all of us,

0:34:170:34:21

you know. What is it? Does it exist?

0:34:210:34:23

Can we control it? There is a thriller element to it.

0:34:230:34:26

London just looks amazing.

0:34:260:34:28

It really does, it looks so slick and beautiful.

0:34:280:34:32

The Shard has got a bigger part than me.

0:34:320:34:36

The Shard features prominently - the spire!

0:34:360:34:39

Oh, yes!

0:34:410:34:42

Quite often I realised the director was going,

0:34:420:34:45

"And could you just move...

0:34:450:34:46

"just maybe step just to your right a bit?"

0:34:460:34:48

And I'd be like, "Oh, yeah, I see."

0:34:480:34:51

Listen, this is such an action clip.

0:34:530:34:55

It's a real kind of proper James Bond speedboat.

0:34:550:35:00

-As close as I'll get.

-But you're really doing the speedboat.

0:35:000:35:03

Oh, no, I was doing it. And in these days of health and safety,

0:35:030:35:06

it's astonishing that this was allowed to happen, because when you

0:35:060:35:09

watch this, I am doing it and I am scared,

0:35:090:35:12

and the boat was more in control of me than I was

0:35:120:35:14

in control of the boat. Which is terrifying.

0:35:140:35:16

And we're going through the Thames Barrier, I think,

0:35:160:35:18

-at three in the morning.

-OK, let's have a look.

0:35:180:35:20

Harry, stay back.

0:35:250:35:26

Get down.

0:35:430:35:44

Slow down.

0:35:510:35:52

-Shit, shit!

-There's not enough room!

0:35:560:35:58

Harry!

0:35:590:36:02

-Ooh!

-Wow.

-APPLAUSE

0:36:070:36:10

When I'm driving the boat there, there's a man sort of at my knees,

0:36:160:36:21

and at one point he was going, "Jesus, slow down, slow down!"

0:36:210:36:24

GRAHAM CACKLES

0:36:240:36:27

"Not funny, not funny."

0:36:270:36:29

All right, it's time for music. Now, this man...

0:36:290:36:33

Wait for this as a statistic.

0:36:330:36:35

This man's debut album Chaos and the Calm

0:36:350:36:38

was top ten in 51 countries.

0:36:380:36:42

Yeah. Now he's got three Grammy nominations.

0:36:420:36:45

Performing Best Fake Smile, please welcome James Bay.

0:36:450:36:48

APPLAUSE

0:36:480:36:51

# No, you don't have to wear your best fake smile

0:36:510:36:54

# Never stand there and burn inside

0:36:540:36:57

# Oh, oh, oh, if you don't like it

0:36:570:37:02

# She's working late and making eyes at the door

0:37:040:37:07

# She's sick of everybody up on her floor

0:37:070:37:11

# She wants the sun in her eyes but all she gets is ignored

0:37:110:37:14

# She used to put it out and get it all back

0:37:170:37:20

# But now she's slipping trying to carry the act

0:37:200:37:23

# She's sweating under the lights, now she's

0:37:230:37:26

# Beginning to crack

0:37:260:37:28

# And you don't have to wear your best fake smile

0:37:300:37:33

# Don't have to stand there and burn inside

0:37:330:37:36

# Oh, oh, oh, if you don't like it

0:37:360:37:41

# And you don't have to care, so don't pretend

0:37:430:37:46

# Nobody needs a best fake friend

0:37:460:37:49

# Oh, oh, oh, don't hide it

0:37:490:37:54

# Yeah!

0:37:540:37:56

# No hesitation now she gets up and walks

0:38:030:38:06

# She thinks of all the pain and pride that it cost

0:38:060:38:10

# She empties all the tip jars and don't get back what she lost

0:38:100:38:14

# Outside the window with two fingers to show

0:38:160:38:19

# She lifts her head up just to blow out the smoke

0:38:190:38:23

# She doesn't have to look back to know where she's got to go

0:38:230:38:27

# Yeah

0:38:270:38:29

# And you don't have to wear your best fake smile

0:38:290:38:33

# Don't have to stand there and burn inside

0:38:330:38:36

# Oh, oh, oh, if you don't like it

0:38:360:38:41

# And you don't have to care, so don't pretend

0:38:420:38:46

# Nobody needs a best fake friend

0:38:460:38:49

# Oh, oh, oh, don't hide it, no

0:38:490:38:54

# If you don't bleed it you don't need it any more

0:38:560:39:03

# If you don't need it get up and leave it on the floor

0:39:030:39:09

# No more believing like it's a voice you can't ignore

0:39:090:39:15

# If you don't bleed it you don't need it, no

0:39:150:39:22

# And you don't have to wear your best fake smile

0:39:230:39:27

# Don't have to stand there and burn inside

0:39:270:39:30

# Oh, oh, no if you don't like it

0:39:300:39:34

# And you don't have to care, so don't pretend

0:39:360:39:40

# Nobody needs a best fake friend

0:39:400:39:44

# Oh, oh, oh, if you don't like it

0:39:440:39:48

# And you don't have to wear your best fake smile

0:39:500:39:54

# Don't have to stand there and burn inside

0:39:540:39:57

# Oh, oh, oh, if you don't like it, no

0:39:570:40:02

# Oh, oh, oh

0:40:040:40:07

# No, if you don't like it. #

0:40:070:40:10

CHEERING

0:40:100:40:13

James Bay, everybody. Come on over, James.

0:40:160:40:19

Drop your gee-tar.

0:40:200:40:21

Wow, energy to burn. Congratulations. James, that's James.

0:40:230:40:29

-Nice to meet you.

-Tracey, that's Ralph.

0:40:290:40:33

-Amazing.

-Thank you. That was fun. Thank you so much.

0:40:330:40:37

Wow! The energy of that! That was fantastic, thank you so much.

0:40:370:40:41

Ay, it's an honour to kick off the year.

0:40:410:40:44

Well... You've kicked us off, I tell you.

0:40:440:40:47

That is of course from the album Chaos and the Calm.

0:40:470:40:49

It's still for sale but presumably everyone's got it now.

0:40:490:40:52

It sold amazingly well.

0:40:520:40:54

-Yeah, it's, erm...

-Just go with yes.

-Yes.

0:40:540:40:58

It is mad to think how many people have it, yeah,

0:40:580:41:01

that's an exciting thing.

0:41:010:41:03

Must say, good luck with the Grammys. When are the Grammys?

0:41:030:41:06

It's like Valentine's Day. Or the day after.

0:41:060:41:08

I think that's...how I remembered it.

0:41:080:41:10

-I think it's the 15th of February.

-15th of February.

0:41:100:41:13

Listen, someone will make sure you're there.

0:41:130:41:15

It would be really annoying if you missed it.

0:41:150:41:17

"I was sure it was the 15th!"

0:41:170:41:18

I'll try and get there.

0:41:200:41:22

Thanks for doing that great performance and

0:41:220:41:24

good luck on the 15th of February.

0:41:240:41:26

All right, thanks a lot. James Bay. Very good.

0:41:260:41:29

APPLAUSE

0:41:290:41:32

Before we go, just time for our first visit of the year

0:41:320:41:34

to the big red chair.

0:41:340:41:36

-Who's there? Hello.

-Hello.

-What's your name?

-Graham.

-Is it? OK.

0:41:360:41:40

-Where are you from, Graham?

-I'm from Glasgow, originally.

0:41:400:41:44

OK, lovely and where do you live now?

0:41:440:41:46

Well, I'm currently working in London.

0:41:460:41:48

OK, what do you do?

0:41:480:41:49

I'm a brand manager for a well-known pharmaceutical company.

0:41:490:41:52

(Boots.)

0:41:520:41:53

We can't be sure it's (Boots) but it probably is.

0:41:570:42:00

All right, Graham, off you go with your story.

0:42:020:42:05

The first thing you need to know is my girlfriend and I

0:42:050:42:08

were butt-naked in bed.

0:42:080:42:10

-Good start to any story.

-Good start!

-Very good start.

0:42:100:42:14

Non-exclusive, though.

0:42:140:42:16

We were in a train carriage travelling through South Africa

0:42:160:42:20

and it was one of those really quite

0:42:200:42:22

old locomotives, so it was like an old carriage, wooden,

0:42:220:42:25

and they had a partition door.

0:42:250:42:26

During the night, my girlfriend nudges me and says,

0:42:260:42:29

"Did you hear that?" I'm like, "No, I didn't hear anything."

0:42:290:42:32

I had to get up and check, obviously.

0:42:320:42:34

Being completely naked, I got up and tried to put my trousers on

0:42:340:42:38

because I didn't want to tackle bandits stark naked.

0:42:380:42:41

Obviously.

0:42:410:42:43

And, all of a sudden, the train starts to slow down

0:42:440:42:47

and, with it being an old coach system, they started to collide

0:42:470:42:51

together like a domino effect,

0:42:510:42:53

and that sent me careering through the partition door straight

0:42:530:42:57

into the next cabin

0:42:570:42:59

and I landed straight on top of the woman that was in the other cabin.

0:42:590:43:03

Now, it's at that moment

0:43:050:43:08

when her husband woke up and looked at me and I realised I was

0:43:080:43:12

sitting on his wife's face.

0:43:120:43:14

Ooh!

0:43:140:43:15

-Good story!

-Good story.

-Good story. You can walk, you can walk.

0:43:150:43:19

Well done. If you would like to join us on the show and have

0:43:210:43:23

a go in that big red chair, you can, just contact us

0:43:230:43:26

via our website at this very address.

0:43:260:43:28

That is it for tonight.

0:43:280:43:30

Please, say a big thank you to my guests Mr James Bay...

0:43:300:43:34

CHEERING

0:43:340:43:35

..James Nesbitt...

0:43:350:43:36

CHEERING

0:43:360:43:37

..Tracey Ullman...

0:43:370:43:39

CHEERING ..and Ralph Fiennes.

0:43:390:43:42

CHEERING

0:43:420:43:44

Join me next week with musician Jack Savoretti,

0:43:440:43:47

actress Gemma Arterton, the irrepressible Miriam Margolyes

0:43:470:43:50

and Friends star Matthew Perry.

0:43:500:43:52

I'll see you then. Goodnight, everybody, bye-bye.

0:43:520:43:55

APPLAUSE

0:43:550:43:58

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