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On tonight's show, we're keeping up with the Joneses,

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lovely couple, the amazing Mr Smith and the gorgeous Mr Reynolds.

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All the big names are here, let's start the show!

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CHEERING

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This programme contains strong language.

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CHEERING AND APPLAUSE Oh! Oh!

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Oh! Oh!

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Good evening, everybody!

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You all in a good mood? Yes!

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It's Friday night, ladies and gentlemen. Yes, it is!

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Woohoo, I tell you.

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Some great names on my sofa tonight. I feel so lucky.

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I feel luckier than a 48-year-old granny

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who's left her lottery ticket in the washing machine.

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You can't blame a granny for trying, can you?

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Did anyone see the nude picture?

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Release the balls!

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LAUGHTER

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Let's get our guests on.

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Later, we'll have music from our good friend,

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the extraordinary Laura Mvula.

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But, first, he is one of our finest character actors,

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who is leading the charge as Captain Mainwaring

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in the new Dad's Army film.

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It's Toby Jones, ladies and gentlemen.

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CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

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Hello, sir. Very nice to see you.

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Have a seat, do.

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Toby Jones.

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This lady went from the Welsh Valleys

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to the Hollywood Hills,

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and won an Oscar for her standout performance in Chicago.

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Please welcome the fabulous Catherine Zeta-Jones!

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CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

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Wowzer!

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Wow! You look fabulous, darling!

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Come in and sit down.

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Catherine Zeta-Jones!

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It's really her.

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He's one of Hollywood's hottest leading men,

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now he is turning the superhero genre on its head in Deadpool.

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Please welcome, for the first time, Ryan Reynolds, everybody!

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CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

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Ryan Reynolds! Hello!

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Very nice to see you. Come in. Sit down.

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That's Ryan Reynolds.

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And... And...

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He's not just one of my favourite guests,

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he is one of the biggest movie stars in the world,

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from West Philadelphia, born and raised,

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it's a warm welcome back to Will Smith!

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CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

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Oh!

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So good to see you.

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Hello, hello, hello.

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Sit down.

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-Hey!

-Oh, man.

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I tell you, not a bad haul.

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Not a bad haul, ladies and gentlemen.

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Very cool.

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Ooh, but actually, very quickly, before we say another thing,

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I should just say, if you are a Zayn Malik fan,

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I am really sorry...

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and he's not here!

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LAUGHTER

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I'm out of here!

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-You were upset. Ryan was upset.

-I was.

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I saw with your tweet.

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You were hurt.

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Zayn Malik is really making me regret

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this Zayn Malik tattoo I have on my back.

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He's making it difficult.

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Ryan tweeted when he heard the news of the cancellation...

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LAUGHTER

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True story. True story.

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-Maybe not for nothing.

-Maybe not for nothing.

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-Hello!

-Anyway, we don't know where he is.

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But, hey, lovely to see you all.

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This is special, ladies and gentlemen.

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In the world of show business, we don't often get to say this,

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four happily married people on the couch.

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Not to each other! The Joneses not related in any way.

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I need to make an announcement before we...

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LAUGHTER

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That would be so weird, if down the sofa...

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Anyway!

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Totes awks.

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So, Ryan, you and Blake have been married for...?

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Oh, God. Don't do this to me.

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Two...uh...four years.

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-Three years!

-Are you guessing?

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(Three-and-a-half!)

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Yeah, three-and-a-half, you just go, you know...

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OK, good luck with getting to four!

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LAUGHTER

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And Catherine and Michael, you have been together a long time now.

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15. Together 17, married 15.

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-How do you know that?!

-Will and Jada?

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Together 22, married 18.

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Very good.

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But Toby and Karen beat you all.

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Together 26, married 1.

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Wow!

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What happened there?

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LAUGHTER

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Like, were you saving?

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-"I want it to be really nice."

-I have to be very careful what I say.

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-No, What happened?

-Well...

-Sorry, this is none of my business!

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It's just interesting.

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We proposed and accepted about three or four times.

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Every time I proposed once,

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"Yeah, let's do that, let's do that." Then...

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"Yeah, we'll do that..."

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And then the next time nothing happened,

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and the next time she proposed on a leap year.

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I said, "Yeah, absolutely."

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Nothing happened...

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And then the third time, I proposed again, nothing happened.

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Then we said we've got to stop proposing.

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We couldn't really agree on how to do it.

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We knew how to do it, obviously,

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but didn't agree how to do it, as it were.

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We're still talking about getting married now?

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-Yes.

-Yes, OK. LAUGHTER

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He's obviously good at proposing.

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Proposing? Yeah, they've got that down!

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He proposed the hell out of that woman!

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You finally got there?

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After 25 years, it seemed like a good thing to do.

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Very good.

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Of course, Ryan, married to beautiful Blake,

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the sexiest man in the world.

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She is the sexiest man in the world!

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You've done well there.

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That's a good shot right there.

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-Look at you.

-Beautiful and happy.

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So annoying!

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Sorry about that, yeah.

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No, but to cheer us up,

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when you started kind of being interested in girls,

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you weren't that cool or smooth with it.

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-No! No, not at all.

-I don't believe it.

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No, I really...

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I went through puberty at, like, 27.

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LAUGHTER

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It was a freak thing. It was not good.

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-The voice changing.

-Who was the girl in school?

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The first girl?

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-I was obsessed with this girl, Fiona Gorchinski, who...

-Mm!

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She used to actually take the bus the opposite way of my actual home.

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I would get on the bus just to sit next to her

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for 45 minutes the wrong way.

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There is something wonderful about that.

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-Yeah...

-And moronic.

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LAUGHTER

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I love it - when you're young it's so cute,

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when you're older, it's just stalking.

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You're, like, on some kind of watch list.

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But I remember, I couldn't have been more than,

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I don't know, 11 years old.

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I was just about to get off the bus, cos enough is enough,

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I'm about to enter, like, Seattle or something.

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I'm starting to get off the bus.

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I decided to kind of hit her with this cool look or something.

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Like one of these real, like, Don Johnson, Miami Vice things.

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Let me feel it. Let me feel it.

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-Yeah, you feel that?

-I threw up in my mouth a bit.

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I do this move as I'm getting down off the bus

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and I sort of delay a little too long

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and the bus doors close on my backpack.

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On my backpack.

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The bus just starts to leave...

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LAUGHTER

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I'm sort of doing this dance, like...

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I'm banging on the side of the bus.

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The bus driver finally stops, opens the door,

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releases my idiot backpack,

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and I could never look at her again.

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-Aw!

-It was terrible.

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-Well, she's looking at you now.

-Yeah, she sure is.

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LAUGHTER

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Can you imagine? "He's the guy with the backpack?!"

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"He's the idiot with the Ren And Stimpy backpack."

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Catherine Zeta-Jones and Michael, obviously been married...

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-15.

-..15 years.

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Couples, when they've been together a long time,

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they have rituals and ways to keep the relationship fresh,

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but you have one involving golf. Is this right?

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Yeah, that old thing.

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-I'm pretty good.

-I don't think I can handle this.

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-I can...kick his ass in golf, if I say so.

-Wow!

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Don't you make these bets when you're playing golf?

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Yeah, if he duffs a shot and can't get his ball

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over the lady's tee, he has to take his pants off.

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He will drop them.

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-TOBY:

-On the pitch?

-On the pitch?!

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LAUGHTER

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You're worse than I am! Even I know that!

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-On the course!

-On the course, yes.

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It's pitch and putt!

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Crazy golf.

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-Well, expose himself in some way.

-And does he do it?!

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But it's not just my husband, it's any man I play with.

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LAUGHTER

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APPLAUSE

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I have questions too.

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He doesn't have a question, he was volunteering to play golf!

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Drop them on the course? What are the paparazzi doing all day?!

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There has been an issue with paparazzi,

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but I made him go into the bushes and drop his pants.

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A deal is a deal.

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Will, you and Jada, you are kind of a real Hollywood couple,

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power couple now, married 18 years.

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That is my wife.

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Still interested, look at that!

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LAUGHTER

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Are you looking at her boobs?

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That is not a good... That picture - why did you do that?

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I'm looking at her like food!

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I'm looking like I'm still breast-feeding!

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Jeez!

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It's a good thing that's my wife!

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Just before we move on, I must, of course, say to you, Will,

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cos it's been a weird year because of the Oscars

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and all the controversy and everything.

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It must be odd for you talking about it,

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because you are kind of part of it.

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People are talking about your performance, that movie,

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so where are you officially now, where are you standing?

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The thing that is most important for me

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is that the spirit of it has to maintain.

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The media creates the us and them.

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For me, there is no us and them, it's we.

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I'm a member of the Academy.

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I felt very seriously that there is a sort of a...

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kind of a regression in America in general,

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a regression towards separatism and racial and religious exclusion.

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So, for me, it is more about putting my hand up

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and reminding my community, the Hollywood community,

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that we have to lead.

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Diversity is America's superpower.

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That is what makes our country great.

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It is really important.

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In Hollywood, we've got to be pushing forward,

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even in a time of a wider regression.

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-Well, hopefully something good comes out of it.

-It always does.

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As my grandmother says, that's the only thing that can come out of it,

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if you lead with love and light,

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good is only going to come out of it.

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Wise man!

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Wise man, Will Smith.

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APPLAUSE

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Right, Will Smith, ladies and gentlemen,

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you are here with a film - Concussion.

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It tells an extraordinary true story.

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Was this story well-known in America?

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Cos it wasn't well-known here.

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You know, it wasn't really well-known in America at the time.

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Since I took the film, it has been really well-known.

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But it's the story of essentially there's a brain disease

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that American football players...

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It's actually expanded beyond American football players -

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rugby, and the Australian rules and soccer, even -

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but this is the doctor who discovered the brain disease

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that the players are getting.

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-It opens here on...

-It's a big comedy!

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It is a terrific story.

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It opens here on the 12th of February.

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I think often in this country if we hear a movie

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is about American football or baseball or something,

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we think we won't get it.

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But this is really accessible because it is told from the doctor

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who also doesn't know about football.

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Absolutely, yeah. The doctor, he was a Nigerian immigrant.

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He came and he discovered the disease.

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He's a forensic pathologist.

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So I had to see autopsies to prepare for this role.

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-Oh!

-Yeah.

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Don't go to autopsies.

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LAUGHTER

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That's as a general rule. As a general rule. If somebody,

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"Hey, man, we're going to an autopsy tomorrow", just don't go.

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It was definitely a jarring experience.

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Yes.

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-TOBY:

-Is there no solution to the problem?

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What it is, is that for American football,

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the helmet actually presents a greater problem.

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Your brain is completely disconnected from the skull,

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sitting in a fluid.

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So in the film, we use the illustration

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of an onion inside of a jar.

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It is just free flowing. There is nothing you can do.

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You can put an exoskeleton over it, you put the helmet over it,

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but you still don't stop the onion from hitting inside,

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and that's what happens to the human brain.

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Also it's a multibillion dollar industry.

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It's a very difficult thing to stop.

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Toby, you should not play American football!

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LAUGHTER

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Just give that dream up, Toby!

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Just give it up, give it up.

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You can't take a man's dream like that!

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We've got a clip. This is you as Dr Bennet Omalu pleading

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with a representative from the governing body of football, the NFL.

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Sir, I am not done.

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History laughs.

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If you continue to deny my work,

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the world will deny my work.

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But men, your men...

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continue to die, their families left in ruins.

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Tell the truth.

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Tell the truth.

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Are you sure you want to do this?

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I would ask you that same question.

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Powerful stuff.

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Dr Omalu, he loves that this film has been made,

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he loves that he is now you.

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Oh, yeah, look at that.

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That's what his face looks like all the time.

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He is so completely happy. All the things that he suffered.

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It's funny, he sent me a link.

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There was a Nigerian comedian that was talking about my performance

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in the movie, and he said...

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-NIGERIAN ACCENT:

-"Will Smith is doing a Nigerian accent in his film,

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"and the haters will say that it is no good,

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"but I think that is not true.

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"I think he sounds like a Nigerian with a concussion."

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LAUGHTER

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That's about the best compliment they can pay.

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Four actors, you all have to do accents,

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but, Ryan, we don't think of Canadians as having accents,

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-and yet you...

-Oh, we do.

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You've lost your accent, you would say?

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Yeah, I sort of trained myself out of it.

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But, you know, I go back home and it pops up again.

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That's all Ottawa. I hear that's all Ottawa. I can hear it.

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Oh, yeah, it gets that. Mm!

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Say "about".

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Well, in Canada it is "aboot".

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That's what I'm saying. Say it the way you say it.

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What are you talking aboot? What are you talking aboot? But...

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It's a bad word, I'm sorry.

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You handle everything with, "Oh, fuck, buddy."

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Is it something about the Canadian accent

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that makes you a really bad liar?

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Well, yeah, we are not good at lying or fighting, really.

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-That's good.

-It's all slappy, it's not very sexy.

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Weren't you caught at the border...?

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Yeah. My wife is a foodie, and she loves these apple pies they make

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at this place in Vancouver, where I grew up.

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We grabbed a bunch of them and headed...

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We were driving back down to the States, we crossed the border.

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You're not allowed to cross the border with vegetables,

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-it is illegal.

-Yeah, it's illegal.

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This guy knew something was going on.

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-We get up to the border crossing...

-TOBY:

-Pie smugglers.

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Yeah, pie smugglers. I'm an actor.

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Most Hollywood actors, they have a kilo of cocaine in their car!

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I've just got pies.

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But he knew something was going on, right?

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-You had the pie face.

-I totally had the pie face.

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I've got the worst poker face... Worst pie face ever.

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And, yeah...

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And he says... And my voice always gets really high when I'm lying.

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He said, "Have you got anything? Any fruit, any vegetables?"

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-And I was like...

-HIGH-PITCHED TONE:

-No!

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-HIGH-PITCHED TONE:

-Why the hell would I have fruits and vegetables, man?

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-HIGH-PITCHED TONE:

-Crazy!

0:17:370:17:38

-HIGH-PITCHED TONE:

-Who would bring fruits and vegetables?

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Basically, he just had me on the hook.

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He looked at me and goes, "You remember that movie you did,

0:17:450:17:47

"that movie, Just Friends?" I was like, "Yeah, yeah."

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He said, "You know that song at the end of it

0:17:490:17:51

"where you sing I Swear by All-4-One?" "Yeah, yeah."

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He was like, "Go ahead."

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LAUGHTER No!

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Basically, he was saying, "Dance, monkey."

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-I bet you danced.

-I danced.

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I sang that thing in the best falsetto I had

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and I was on my way through the border eating pie by the next stop.

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Catherine Zeta-Jones, you, famously for us, you are from Wales.

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From Wales!

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There's loads of roles for Welsh girls around.

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Finally!

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After Mask Of Zorro...

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Oh, they thought I was Spanish.

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Yeah, I had to go to the red carpet and everyone would go, "Hola".

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All I said was, "Gracias, gracias."

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They could have been saying anything about me.

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"Gracias. Muy bien. Muchas gracias."

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-To me, you still have a Welsh accent.

-Yeah.

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But is that because you are here?

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I've been with my mam and dad this whole weekend and my brother,

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and it gets stronger.

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When I first met Michael, I'd be on the phone to my mother,

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and I'd get off the phone and he'd say,

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"Oh, it's a beautiful language, Welsh." I went...

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-EXAGGERATED ACCENT:

-"What are you talking about?

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-"I'm speaking English."

-LAUGHTER

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I have to say, the night you won the BAFTA,

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you were suddenly the Welsh-est woman alive.

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I know!

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It's that humble thing that comes on.

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-EXAGGERATED ACCENT:

-"I'm from Swansea, I don't deserve this!"

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Because you must have had friends there,

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American friends in the audience

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who mustn't have known what you were doing.

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You did the big chant and everything.

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I did "Oggy Oggy", didn't I?

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I think Wales won that day, actually.

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Was that what it was?

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Something that jogged my memory

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about how important "Oggy Oggy" was in my life.

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These two are smiling and nodding.

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Oggy oggy. Oggy oggy.

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If I did the "Oggy Oggy", you'd know what to do, right?

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-To show the Americans.

-AUDIENCE: Yeah!

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All right. Ready?

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Oggy oggy oggy.

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Oi! Oi! Oi!

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Oggy oggy oggy!

0:19:550:19:57

Oi! Oi! Oi!

0:19:570:19:58

-Oggy!

-Oi!

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-Oggy!

-Oi!

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Oggy oggy oggy!

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Oi! Oi! Oi!

0:20:020:20:03

Now you can do it.

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-I'm going to take that home.

-Yeah, we're going to take that back.

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Ours is more like...

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Say ho-ohh.

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Ho-ohh!

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It's really simple.

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In Canada it's...

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"Sorry about that".

0:20:170:20:19

LAUGHTER

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APPLAUSE

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Finally, ladies and gentlemen, Ryan Reynolds brings us Deadpool.

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CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

0:20:320:20:34

I love that poster.

0:20:360:20:37

That poster tells you everything you need to know about this movie.

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That is a really good poster.

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A man in a very tight red body suit.

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It opens here on February 10th.

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This must feel great for you.

0:20:480:20:50

This has been a labour of love, getting this made.

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Yes, yeah.

0:20:530:20:54

It's been the best and worst relationship I've ever been in.

0:20:540:20:57

11 years. 11 years I've been trying to get this movie made.

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We wrote a script, we did that about six years ago.

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Then we did a little bit of test footage for this movie.

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That test footage sat on a shelf at Fox for four years.

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Then about a year and a half ago,

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somebody accidentally leaked it on the internet.

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-(Was that you?)

-Super crazy.

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Oh, no. It had nothing to do with me.

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I had nothing to do with that.

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Very un-Canadian of you.

0:21:200:21:22

My mum was like, "What does this button do?

0:21:220:21:27

"Ah!"

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"Oh, well, I guess we're making the movie now."

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It just went nuts. People started writing and flooding Fox,

0:21:310:21:34

begging and pleading for the Deadpool movie to get made.

0:21:340:21:37

Within 24 hours, we had a green light.

0:21:370:21:39

-It was that quick?

-It was that quick.

0:21:390:21:41

It was so undeniable, and it felt really good.

0:21:410:21:44

Also, you must be quite pissed off

0:21:440:21:47

that you couldn't make that decision for yourselves.

0:21:470:21:50

Exactly, we tried and tried, but the fans got it made.

0:21:500:21:53

It's a great story too, this is totally fan-driven in every way.

0:21:530:21:55

People who don't know, they'll be thinking,

0:21:550:21:57

"Why wouldn't the studio want to make this? It's a superhero movie.

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"Everyone loves them." And it is a superhero movie

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and it's got all those things, but it does also have

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this kind of indie movie sensibility and edginess.

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It is meta. The character knows he's in a comic book movie,

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but he works in the X-Men universe,

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so he's dealing with other X-Men, he's talking about other X-Men.

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He's making jokes about Ryan Reynolds.

0:22:170:22:19

It is rated R, which is unusual for a Marvel, X-Men type movie.

0:22:190:22:23

I think it's a certificate 15 here in the UK.

0:22:230:22:25

Yeah, we can take it.

0:22:250:22:27

LAUGHTER

0:22:270:22:28

In China it's rated go fuck yourself!

0:22:280:22:30

-Basically, they're not showing it there at all.

-Washed their hands!

0:22:320:22:35

It's sad, I wish we could show it there.

0:22:350:22:38

But, yeah, it's a pretty unorthodox film.

0:22:380:22:40

Also, what's great is to reflect, like that poster,

0:22:400:22:42

but also you've done other posters that are unorthodox.

0:22:420:22:45

The marketing of this movie has been so much fun.

0:22:450:22:47

Are you involved in these things?

0:22:470:22:49

Completely. We love it.

0:22:490:22:50

We're, like, giddily texting and e-mailing each other

0:22:500:22:52

in the middle of the night. "What if we tried this?"

0:22:520:22:55

The emoji poster, I love the emoji poster.

0:22:550:22:58

-Deadpool.

-Deadpool... Ha!

0:22:580:22:59

Dead - poo - L.

0:22:590:23:00

That just started as a jokey text message

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between me and a couple other people.

0:23:050:23:06

Then the Fox marketing guys said,

0:23:060:23:08

"We're going to make that into a billboard."

0:23:080:23:10

I said, "You don't have the balls." And there it is.

0:23:100:23:13

Also, you haven't forgotten that it's opening on Valentine's weekend.

0:23:130:23:16

Of course, yeah.

0:23:160:23:17

So we've got that.

0:23:170:23:18

True love never dies.

0:23:230:23:25

There are references to Valentine's Day in it.

0:23:280:23:30

It is. There is a big love story in this film.

0:23:300:23:33

The love story quickly turns into dick-kicking revenge,

0:23:330:23:36

but, still, it's a love story.

0:23:360:23:39

I like how it shocks me, cos on American TV

0:23:390:23:41

you can't say stuff like that.

0:23:410:23:43

No, you can't say it here either.

0:23:430:23:45

LAUGHTER

0:23:450:23:46

I'll just be saying "Hi" on the couch when it airs.

0:23:480:23:52

I'll just say, "Deadpool!"

0:23:520:23:55

Then I'll go, "On to Dad's Army."

0:23:550:23:57

Also, you didn't just work on the things,

0:23:590:24:01

you did the voice-overs for some trailers.

0:24:010:24:04

Yeah, I did.

0:24:040:24:06

Exactly, yeah. I love that stuff.

0:24:060:24:08

I do it at home all the time. It drives my wife nuts.

0:24:080:24:10

You know, it's that voice...

0:24:100:24:11

-DEEP AND GRAVELLY TONE:

-In a world divided by fear,

0:24:110:24:15

one man must stand alone.

0:24:150:24:18

Will Smith, Ryan Reynolds,

0:24:180:24:20

Catherine Zeta-Jones, Toby Jones,

0:24:200:24:24

in...Graham Norton's Pants, rated R.

0:24:240:24:27

LAUGHTER AND APPLAUSE

0:24:270:24:29

That's my ringtone.

0:24:290:24:30

That was really good.

0:24:340:24:36

Like Don LaFontaine. That guy's the best.

0:24:360:24:38

-Yeah, the trailer guy.

-I want to see that movie!

0:24:380:24:42

Listen, we've got a clip from Deadpool.

0:24:420:24:44

This is essentially...

0:24:440:24:46

This is you and your crew, a couple of the other X people,

0:24:460:24:51

-confronting your nemesis.

-Yes!

0:24:510:24:54

MUSIC: X Gon' Give It To Ya by DMX

0:24:540:24:57

Go get some.

0:25:000:25:01

She's going to do a superhero landing. Wait for it!

0:25:010:25:04

Whoo!

0:25:070:25:08

Superhero landing!

0:25:080:25:10

You know, that's really hard on your knees.

0:25:100:25:12

Totally impractical. They all do it.

0:25:120:25:14

You are a lovely lady, but I'm saving myself for Frances.

0:25:140:25:16

That's why I brought him!

0:25:160:25:18

I prefer not to hit a woman, so please...

0:25:180:25:21

METALLIC CLANG

0:25:210:25:23

I mean...that's why I brought her?

0:25:280:25:30

Oh, no, finish your tweet.

0:25:320:25:34

Just give us a second.

0:25:340:25:36

There you go, hashtag it.

0:25:360:25:38

Go get her, tiger.

0:25:380:25:40

I so pity the dude who pressures her into prom sex.

0:25:470:25:50

LAUGHTER

0:25:500:25:53

You don't think about it watching the movie,

0:25:580:26:00

but there is a weird thing -

0:26:000:26:02

is it true the director based some of the fight moves on Muhammad Ali?

0:26:020:26:07

Some of the big fight scenes, yeah.

0:26:070:26:09

Sorry.

0:26:090:26:11

We've got the other Muhammad Ali right here.

0:26:120:26:15

Some of it was based on Muhammad Ali -

0:26:150:26:17

just that idea of how he sort of got in people's heads.

0:26:170:26:21

He was punching them in the brain

0:26:210:26:22

as much as he was punching them in the face.

0:26:220:26:24

A lot of it is that, that sort of floating thing that he does,

0:26:240:26:28

it's a psychological warfare as well.

0:26:280:26:31

Because when you were preparing to play Muhammad Ali,

0:26:310:26:33

watching tapes, how many hours did you spend watching tapes?

0:26:330:26:37

What I used to do was

0:26:370:26:39

there was a way that his arm moved, and Michael Mann, the director,

0:26:390:26:42

wanted me to burn neural passages.

0:26:420:26:47

So I would sit in a dark room for 20 minutes at a time,

0:26:470:26:51

but for two or three hours a day,

0:26:510:26:54

just in a dark room and I would watch a loop of him doing the jab,

0:26:540:26:56

-doing the jab, doing the jab.

-Whoa, wow.

0:26:560:26:58

-Trying to burn neural passages.

-Yeah.

0:26:580:27:00

It didn't work.

0:27:000:27:02

It was a bad idea from the beginning.

0:27:030:27:06

The movie was great, something worked.

0:27:060:27:09

Toby Jones, you've been in some big superhero movies.

0:27:090:27:11

Oh, I thought you were going to say as Captain Mainwaring,

0:27:110:27:14

did I burn some neural passages?

0:27:140:27:16

I wasn't asked to do that.

0:27:160:27:17

No, you were in Captain America and Hunger Games, you were in that.

0:27:170:27:21

-Yeah, yeah.

-Did you get to do stunts?

0:27:210:27:23

No, I get to watch people do stunts.

0:27:230:27:26

I contrived special powers, because in the Marvel stuff,

0:27:260:27:29

I'm Arnim Zola, a sort of German nefarious doctor, evil doctor.

0:27:290:27:35

Ooh.

0:27:350:27:37

I'm against Captain America.

0:27:370:27:38

-We may run into each other in the future.

-Oh, good.

0:27:380:27:41

But at the moment I'm just preoccupied with Captain America,

0:27:410:27:44

dealing with him.

0:27:440:27:45

Is it extraordinary for you now when parents tell their children

0:27:450:27:50

that you are Dobby from Harry Potter?

0:27:500:27:52

Well, it is, because I think they look at me

0:27:520:27:55

and think, "Well, he's not that big,

0:27:550:27:57

"maybe he could fit into a costume as Dobby... Around his eyes..."

0:27:570:28:02

There's always a slight moment of assessing whether I'm tall enough.

0:28:020:28:06

And then I say I'm only partly responsible, just for the voice.

0:28:080:28:11

Then there's always the kind of, "Can you do the voice on the phone?

0:28:110:28:15

"Can you speak to my mother?"

0:28:150:28:17

Apparently being Dobby brings with it

0:28:170:28:20

its own sort of fan mail.

0:28:200:28:22

Yes.

0:28:230:28:25

There is a certain kind of fan of Dobby, you think,

0:28:270:28:31

"Well, you're not really a child.

0:28:310:28:33

"You are an adult and you are asking me to write a little legend

0:28:340:28:39

"for your partner, in which you say

0:28:390:28:41

"you've been a really, really bad Dobby."

0:28:410:28:43

As you know, Dobby gets hit around.

0:28:460:28:50

Taken in the wrong context it could be implications of sadomasochism.

0:28:500:28:55

Yes. We never imagined Harry Potter would go there.

0:28:550:28:57

It's very dark, Toby.

0:28:570:28:58

Hey, man, I only sent that letter because I appreciate it.

0:28:580:29:02

LAUGHTER

0:29:020:29:03

Can I get your e-mail?

0:29:050:29:07

Very quickly, I am so sorry there won't be more Hunger Games.

0:29:090:29:12

This character... This character deserves a spin-off.

0:29:120:29:16

CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

0:29:160:29:18

That's...

0:29:190:29:21

That's its...

0:29:220:29:23

That's its own movie.

0:29:240:29:27

-That is an amazing...

-Who is that guy?

0:29:270:29:29

It looks like my aunt Kathy.

0:29:310:29:34

Yeah, she's not sending you a card now.

0:29:350:29:37

Catherine Zeta-Jones, you've done extraordinary stunt work.

0:29:390:29:42

You did a lot of the sword stuff in Mask Of Zorro?

0:29:420:29:45

A lot of the sword stuff in Zorro, yeah.

0:29:450:29:47

But I think probably my biggest stunt

0:29:470:29:49

was getting my ass through lasers in Entrapment.

0:29:490:29:51

Mm-hmm! I remember that.

0:29:510:29:54

Did you have to be able to do that?

0:29:540:29:57

LAUGHTER

0:29:570:30:00

I'm sorry, was that my external voice?!

0:30:000:30:02

We used to watch that trailer a lot.

0:30:050:30:07

I remember that scene.

0:30:080:30:10

I remember that scene. I was by myself...

0:30:100:30:13

-TOBY:

-That's burnt onto a neural passage.

0:30:150:30:19

-Yes, that one worked.

-Yeah, exactly!

0:30:190:30:22

APPLAUSE

0:30:220:30:23

Now, Dad's Army hits the big screens next Friday

0:30:250:30:29

with Catherine and Toby.

0:30:290:30:30

Toby, for you, taking on Captain Mainwaring,

0:30:300:30:35

I mean, Arthur Lowe is so loved and it's still on telly all the time.

0:30:350:30:39

-Yeah, every Saturday.

-How daunting?

0:30:390:30:41

It was 100% daunting.

0:30:410:30:43

It was something that I thought very, very carefully about it.

0:30:430:30:47

Then I saw the script.

0:30:470:30:48

I suppose, more importantly, it was seeing the other actors involved.

0:30:480:30:53

When you think, "Oh, I can't play that part,

0:30:530:30:57

"I loved Arthur Lowe doing it", then I saw the kind of actors

0:30:570:30:59

they were getting involved with the script,

0:30:590:31:02

and then Catherine came on board.

0:31:020:31:04

It became un-turn-down-able.

0:31:040:31:05

It became a selfish decision, it just looked so much fun to do.

0:31:050:31:09

Sometimes with a job, in the end, I just want to do

0:31:090:31:13

those stupid things with those great actors.

0:31:130:31:16

That's what makes it... Cos I think everyone was nervous,

0:31:160:31:19

but then when you saw the cast, you were like, "Hang on."

0:31:190:31:22

Yeah, I want to be in that gang.

0:31:220:31:24

I want to hang with you guys for a while.

0:31:240:31:26

Less pressure for you, I guess, Catherine,

0:31:260:31:28

-because your character is new.

-Yeah, completely new.

0:31:280:31:31

I get thrown into Walmington-on-Sea.

0:31:310:31:33

I'm a journalist doing an article on the Home Guard.

0:31:330:31:36

I cause a bit of havoc, really, throughout...

0:31:360:31:38

She falls for me!

0:31:380:31:40

LAUGHTER

0:31:400:31:42

I can see that. I can see that.

0:31:420:31:44

There is a big love affair that goes on.

0:31:440:31:47

But exactly the same as Toby said,

0:31:470:31:48

when I saw the plethora of fantastic actors, this one being right there,

0:31:480:31:53

I wanted to be a part of it.

0:31:530:31:55

Actually, what's nice about it is you don't...

0:31:550:31:58

I mean, it is a stand-alone.

0:31:580:31:59

It's not full of in-jokes.

0:31:590:32:01

Well, obviously a TV comedy is 25 minutes long -

0:32:010:32:04

in a movie, what is great about the script is they had to find a way

0:32:040:32:08

of extending it. They could do a scale,

0:32:080:32:10

a story of scale, in a way that you can't do

0:32:100:32:12

in a half-hour studio sitcom.

0:32:120:32:15

So, there's...

0:32:150:32:18

It's based on a true story, what happens in the movie.

0:32:180:32:20

It was Operation Bodyguard, where the Allies used... Can I say this?

0:32:200:32:25

-..inflatable tanks.

-Yeah.

0:32:250:32:27

Ugh! You blew everything!

0:32:270:32:28

Spoiler alert!

0:32:300:32:31

The inflatable tanks won't ruin your enjoyment.

0:32:330:32:37

Let's see a bit of Catherine, Toby and the boys in Dad's Army.

0:32:370:32:41

This is a taste of the trailer.

0:32:410:32:44

Bravo, Mainwaring.

0:32:440:32:45

Eyes front, soldiers back.

0:32:470:32:48

You're a sergeant in the Home Guard, not a sack of potatoes.

0:32:480:32:51

It's all hands on deck.

0:32:520:32:54

'An enemy spy is operating somewhere near here.'

0:32:540:32:56

I'll catch him, sir.

0:32:580:32:59

What does he look like?

0:32:590:33:00

We don't know, Frank, that's rather the point with spies.

0:33:000:33:03

Stupid boy.

0:33:030:33:04

HORN BLARES

0:33:060:33:07

Associated Press. I'm doing an article on the Home Guard.

0:33:070:33:09

You come highly recommended.

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You remind me of someone...

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Winston Churchill.

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I like to think that if we met,

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we'd both be the richer for it.

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Oh, yes.

0:33:180:33:19

I took my mum, she loved it. Laughed like a drain.

0:33:260:33:28

-She like it, your mum?

-She did, laughed like a drain.

0:33:280:33:30

I was telling her to shut up.

0:33:300:33:32

Actually, Dad's Army, did they ever show it in America? No?

0:33:320:33:35

It replaced religion in Canada!

0:33:350:33:37

No, we don't know. Here it is, like, they're reverent of it.

0:33:400:33:43

They just love it. They were talking about it all day today on my junket.

0:33:430:33:46

When did they stop making it?

0:33:460:33:47

They stopped making it in '70-something?

0:33:470:33:49

It's still on every week on BBC Two.

0:33:490:33:51

It reruns and everyone watches it, though.

0:33:510:33:53

Yeah. The figures are great still.

0:33:530:33:55

-CATHERINE:

-Just when you think you've seen every episode,

0:33:550:33:58

you turn it on, another one pops up.

0:33:580:33:59

You might need some more promotion in the African-American community.

0:33:590:34:03

LAUGHTER

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APPLAUSE

0:34:070:34:09

Right, it's music time.

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I don't know if you are familiar with this lady, but she is stunning.

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We have been waiting over three years for this moment.

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But she is back now with her second album.

0:34:200:34:23

Here performing her current single, Overcome,

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it is a warm welcome back to the lovely Laura Mvula!

0:34:250:34:29

CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

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# When your heart is broken down, down, down

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# And your head don't reach the sky

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# Take your broken wings and fly

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# When your head is hanging low, low, low

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# And the tears, they keep falling

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# Take your broken feet and run

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# Run

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# Oh, oh

0:35:130:35:15

# Oh, oh, oh

0:35:150:35:19

# Run

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# Oh, oh

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# Oh, oh, oh

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# With the world upon your shoulders

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# Nowhere left to hide

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# Oh

0:35:390:35:41

# Keep your head up, carry on

0:35:410:35:43

-# Oh, oh

-Keep your head up

0:35:430:35:45

# Oh, oh, oh

0:35:450:35:48

# Keep your head up

0:35:480:35:49

# Oh, oh

0:35:490:35:51

# Oh, oh, oh

0:35:510:35:57

-# Oh, oh

-Oh-oh-oh, oh-oh-oh, yeah

0:35:570:35:59

# Oh, oh, oh

0:35:590:36:03

# Oh, oh

0:36:030:36:05

# Oh, oh, oh

0:36:050:36:09

# Ain't no time to die, die, die

0:36:110:36:15

# Even though we suffer

0:36:170:36:22

# Come together, we pray

0:36:250:36:28

# Come together

0:36:280:36:30

# All God's children

0:36:300:36:32

# Round the mountain

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# All God's children run

0:36:380:36:40

# Round the mountain

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# All God's children run

0:36:460:36:49

# Round the mountain

0:36:520:36:55

# All God's children run

0:36:550:36:58

# Round the mountain

0:37:010:37:04

# All God's children run, run

0:37:040:37:07

# Round the mountain

0:37:110:37:13

# All God's children run, run, run

0:37:130:37:17

# Round the mountain

0:37:190:37:21

# All God's children run, run, run

0:37:210:37:26

# Round the mountain

0:37:280:37:30

# All God's children run, run, run, run

0:37:300:37:34

# Round the mountain run

0:37:340:37:37

# Round the mountain

0:37:370:37:39

# All God's children run

0:37:390:37:41

# All God's children

0:37:410:37:43

# Run round the mountain run. #

0:37:430:37:46

CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

0:37:460:37:49

Laura Mvula!

0:37:520:37:54

Simply stunning. Come and join us, do.

0:37:540:37:56

Thank you to the dancers and the singers. Thanks to all of them.

0:37:560:38:00

-Congratulations.

-Thank you very much.

0:38:000:38:02

Come and sit down.

0:38:020:38:04

That's Toby Jones. This is Catherine.

0:38:040:38:08

Ryan, Will.

0:38:080:38:12

It's all good!

0:38:120:38:14

Oh!

0:38:160:38:18

CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

0:38:180:38:21

Excited.

0:38:210:38:23

Now, I'm hoping Toby doesn't suffer from allergies!

0:38:260:38:30

Sorry!

0:38:300:38:31

Sorry.

0:38:320:38:34

That is gorgeous, thank you so much for that.

0:38:340:38:37

Really, really lovely.

0:38:370:38:38

-It's the new single, Overcome. It is out now.

-It is out now.

0:38:380:38:42

-It is!

-Oh, my goodness.

0:38:420:38:43

I've heard it on the radio and everything, Laura Mvula.

0:38:430:38:46

It must be so nice for you to have a new song out.

0:38:460:38:48

This is special, because remember, my first ever TV moment

0:38:480:38:51

-was with you.

-Yes, it was.

-You remember that?

-I do!

0:38:510:38:54

-Three years ago.

-And look at you now!

0:38:540:38:56

-Thank you. And I have feathers!

-You've killed a flock of something!

0:38:560:39:00

LAUGHTER

0:39:000:39:02

"Driving the countryside, picking up roadkill.

0:39:030:39:06

"And now I'm back!"

0:39:060:39:07

Well done, you. And there's a whole album. Finally.

0:39:090:39:12

The fans, I'm one of them, we have been waiting.

0:39:120:39:16

It is called The Dreaming Room, which is a lovely name.

0:39:160:39:19

That is out on the 6th of May.

0:39:190:39:20

-Yes, it is.

-Gorgeous.

0:39:200:39:22

Yeah, it took me three years to come up with some new songs.

0:39:220:39:24

I'm not ashamed of that.

0:39:240:39:26

It was a lovely song. I'd wait for it.

0:39:260:39:29

It's taken me, like, 14 years, so...

0:39:290:39:31

It would take me 100,000!

0:39:330:39:34

-Thank you!

-You'd have to die and be born again.

0:39:390:39:42

It is so lovely to have you back.

0:39:430:39:46

Congratulations on the single. I hope it does really well.

0:39:460:39:48

I can't wait for the album. Laura Mvula, everybody.

0:39:480:39:51

CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

0:39:510:39:54

All right, before we head away,

0:39:550:39:58

there is just time for a visit to the big red chair.

0:39:580:40:00

Who is there? Hello, sir.

0:40:000:40:02

-Hey, Graham.

-Hi, what's your name?

-I'm David.

0:40:020:40:04

-David, lovely. Where are you from, David?

-Hungary.

0:40:040:40:07

Oh, Hungary. OK. What do you do here?

0:40:070:40:11

I have two jobs. My main one is a hospital job,

0:40:110:40:13

the other is a weekend job working as a receptionist at a gym.

0:40:130:40:16

He's got it covered, ladies and gentlemen.

0:40:160:40:19

Hospitals, gyms.

0:40:190:40:21

He has made Britain healthier while he's been here.

0:40:210:40:24

Thank you. We all thank you.

0:40:240:40:26

Off you go with the story.

0:40:260:40:28

I'm originally from Hungary, but my first visit to New York,

0:40:280:40:32

I was at a Christmas party

0:40:320:40:33

with a bunch of people I didn't know very long.

0:40:330:40:37

It was before cellphones.

0:40:370:40:38

There was a phone in the living room.

0:40:380:40:40

I made a phone call to my cousin,

0:40:400:40:42

had a brief conversation in Hungarian.

0:40:420:40:44

At the end of the conversation I was like,

0:40:440:40:46

"Pussy, pussy, mwah, mwah, mwah."

0:40:460:40:49

Oh.

0:40:490:40:51

Everybody in the room froze, looked at me.

0:40:510:40:54

I was like, telling my cousin, "Why is everyone looking at me?"

0:40:540:40:58

My cousin said, "Do you know what you said in English?"

0:40:580:41:02

Because in Hungarian, "puszi" means a kiss on the cheek.

0:41:020:41:07

It doesn't mean that here.

0:41:070:41:10

Exactly, but I didn't realise...

0:41:100:41:11

I doubt it means that in Hungary.

0:41:110:41:13

I didn't realise it either until everybody looked.

0:41:150:41:19

And there was children.

0:41:190:41:20

It was a Christmas party with kids in there...

0:41:200:41:22

Oh, that's wrong.

0:41:220:41:23

Dispose of him!

0:41:260:41:28

-WILL:

-Hold on. One second.

0:41:290:41:31

On the cheek, here we go.

0:41:310:41:33

Now you know what I can say!

0:41:330:41:35

-"Dear Diary..."

-I was just a speed bump on his way to "puszi" there.

0:41:390:41:43

You slowed him, but you didn't stop him.

0:41:480:41:50

OK, who is up next? Hello, sir.

0:41:500:41:53

-Hello.

-Who are you?

-I'm Paul.

0:41:530:41:55

Paul, lovely. What do you do, Paul?

0:41:550:41:57

-I'm a tour guide.

-A tour guide?

-Yes.

0:41:570:42:00

Oh, around what or where?

0:42:000:42:01

The BBC.

0:42:010:42:03

LAUGHTER

0:42:030:42:06

You want me to just flip him?

0:42:060:42:08

(If the walls could talk!)

0:42:100:42:11

"And in this room... No, never mind."

0:42:150:42:18

OK.

0:42:180:42:20

-Is your story about that, Paul?

-No, it's not.

-OK.

0:42:200:42:24

Off you go with your story.

0:42:240:42:26

My son Jay is about 18 now, so he will kill me for telling this story,

0:42:260:42:30

but when he was very little, I took him swimming.

0:42:300:42:32

It was his first time there out of nappies.

0:42:320:42:36

Before we headed to the pool, I said, "Do you need the toilet?"

0:42:360:42:39

-CATHERINE:

-I don't like toilet stories, can I flip him?

0:42:390:42:42

He said no. We got in the pool eventually

0:42:420:42:44

and as soon as we got in the pool, he needed the toilet.

0:42:440:42:47

We went to the toilet and came back.

0:42:470:42:48

I was a very bad father then. I whispered in his ear,

0:42:480:42:51

"If you need to wee again, just do it in the pool.

0:42:510:42:54

"No-one will know, everybody does it, it's OK."

0:42:540:42:58

Of course I regretted this five minutes later

0:42:580:43:00

when he stood very proudly on the side of the pool...

0:43:000:43:03

LAUGHTER

0:43:030:43:06

..peeing into the water very majestically,

0:43:060:43:10

like an ornamental fountain,

0:43:100:43:13

whilst all the swimmers dived for cover

0:43:130:43:16

and all the lifeguards blew their whistles.

0:43:160:43:18

Oh, you can walk. Well done, Paul! Very good.

0:43:180:43:21

Good story. Good story.

0:43:210:43:23

Well done, everyone.

0:43:230:43:25

If you'd like to join us on the show

0:43:250:43:27

and have a go in that red chair,

0:43:270:43:28

you can contact us via our website at this very address.

0:43:280:43:31

Sadly, that is it for tonight.

0:43:310:43:33

So just say a huge thank you to my guests tonight -

0:43:330:43:36

Laura Mvula!

0:43:360:43:39

Toby Jones, everybody!

0:43:390:43:42

Catherine Zeta-Jones!

0:43:420:43:45

Ryan Reynolds!

0:43:450:43:48

And Mr Will Smith!

0:43:480:43:50

CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

0:43:500:43:52

Join me next week with comedy actor Jack Black,

0:43:520:43:55

from Zoolander 2, Owen Wilson, Penelope Cruz and Ben Stiller,

0:43:550:43:59

plus the fabulous Sir Elton John.

0:43:590:44:01

I'll see you then! Goodnight, everyone. Bye-bye.

0:44:010:44:03

CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

0:44:030:44:06

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