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Tonight, the stars of the new Steve Jobs film.

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Thanks to Steve Jobs, it's amazing what technology can do now.

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I mean, look at this. Michael, ask it something.

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Do we have a great show tonight?

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-KATE WINSLET AS SIRI:

-We have great guests.

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Especially that Michael Fassbender. He's gorgeous.

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Yeah! I know what you mean!

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And what about the host, Graham Norton?

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I'm sorry, I don't know what a Graham Norton is.

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You know, the chat show host?

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Would you like me to search for "old men with beards"?

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Stupid phone! Let's start the show!

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Oh! Hello! And welcome.

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Good evening, everybody. Oh! Stop it, stop it, stop it.

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Good evening, and welcome.

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Great line-up for you tonight.

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And hey, there's bound to be some computer talk.

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The modern computer has so many uses.

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We use it for knowledge, news, banking.

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Mainly, though, we use it for looking at pictures like this.

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It's true. You won't believe what happened next!

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Steve Jobs, what a genius.

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Here he is launching Apple's revolutionary new phone.

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Yeah! You could make calls and e-mails

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and carry it all around in the palm of your hand.

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Of course, we had our own Steve Jobs in this country.

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No. I'm fired!

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Hey, let's get some guests on.

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Later, we'll have music from pop superstar Ellie Goulding. Yeah!

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But first, this man exploded onto the music scene

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with his debut album Get Rich Or Die Tryin'.

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One of the biggest-selling hip-hop artists of all time,

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now he's back with his new single, 9 Shots.

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It's 50 Cent!

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CHEERING

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Hello! Hi!

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Very good to see you again.

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Everyone loves this lady. She's made us laugh and cry

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playing characters from Mrs Overall to Mo Mowlam.

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Now starring in the movie, Brooklyn, please welcome Julie Walters!

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Yay!

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Yay!

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-Nice to see you. Hello, darling.

-And you, my love.

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Come and sit down. With my friend!

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He's one of Hollywood's hottest properties.

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After a string of stand-out performances in Shame,

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Inglorious Basterds, X-Men and Oscar-nominated in 12 Years A Slave.

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Now starring as Steve Jobs, it's Michael Fassbender.

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Yeah!

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Hello!

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-How are you?

-Good to meet you.

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Good to meet you. Have a seat.

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And starring with Michael in Steve Jobs,

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this lady shot to fame in Titanic 18 years ago

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and has gone on to win three Golden Globes, a Grammy,

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an Emmy and an Oscar. She's one of our greatest Hollywood exports

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and one of my favourite actresses, it's Kate Winslet!

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CHEERING

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Hello! Whoo!

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How are you?! Mwah! How are you, are you all right?

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How lovely to see you.

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Yeah! All of them now, all meeting and greeting.

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-It's just a...

-Yeah.

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..excuse to kiss a bunch of people! I love it!

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There you go.

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Now, did somebody die and I didn't get a memo?

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LAUGHTER

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I feel rude!

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Disrespectful. I've gone crazy.

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-Are you all right there, Julie?

-Yes, why do you ask?

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-Well, because I know you like Michael.

-I beg your pardon?!

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-You are a fan of Michael's, aren't you?

-I think Michael is a very nice person.

-Yes!

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And have you met 50 Cent before?

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Yes, of course, I'm a huge fan!

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OK, OK, OK, if I could force you, Julie,

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if I could force you, Julie, what would you say

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is your favourite 50 Cent record of all time?

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OK, well, loved the first album, Get Rich...

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-Yeah? Get Rich Or Die Tryin'.

-Good!

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-Absolutely loved Massacre.

-Yeah, we all did.

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But my favourite is In Da Club.

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-Oh, yes.

-Yeah? Yeah. Go, Shorty!

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She knows it, she knows it!

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-I've got to do a bit of rapping.

-He thought she didn't know!

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He doesn't know, does he? So it's "Go, Shorty, it's your birthday!

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We're gonna party like it's your birthday!

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Yeah, very good!

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APPLAUSE

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-See? You didn't know, did you?

-I didn't know you knew it!

-Now, see?!

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Now, in all that excitement, Julie, your poppy has fallen off.

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Good god!

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And the Daily Mail will go apeshit if you're on here without a poppy.

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Michael Fassbender was standing on it.

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Michael, you trashed my poppy!

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Yeah, yeah, it's back on, we're good. We're good, we're good.

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Now, talking of birthdays, ladies and gentlemen,

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talking of birthdays, Kate Winslet, you had a, not a big birthday,

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but a milestone birthday.

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I am 40.

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-AUDIENCE:

-Ooh!

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APPLAUSE

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No, you would never believe it to look at me!

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-You really wouldn't!

-Oh, yes, you would!

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You say you don't look it, 40, but you don't,

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because you're on the cover of Esquire magazine.

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No, look at this.

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Oh, my God! Ooh!

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-Now, I do actually, Michael, I do look quite nice, don't I?

-Very nice indeed!

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-No, you look amazing.

-Thank you very much.

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A good photographer works wonders, bit of hair and make-up.

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But talking of turning 40, rather confusingly, 50 turned 40.

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Yeah, yeah.

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You're looking very well, 50.

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No showing my pictures now! No, no, no!

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No, you decided, turn 40, you thought,

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turn 40, I'm going to do a magazine cover.

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-Yeah, yeah, see I wasn't going to be fat at 40.

-No.

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I didn't want to do that. I'd just finished shooting the Southpaw film

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with Jake Gyllenhaal and Forest Whittaker.

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And I was, like, cuddly, for that one.

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LAUGHTER

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I was nice and soft. I was playing a promoter while they were playing professional fighters

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so it didn't make sense for me to be all ripped up.

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I gave myself the excuse to go get in shape after.

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And the magazine you chose to appear on was...

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CHEERING AND GASPING

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-Wow!

-Check THAT out!

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What can you do?

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There are so many 40-year-olds watching this, going...

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It's over! We're done.

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Now, Michael Fassbender, did you have a big birthday recently?

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-Well, recently in April. Er...April 2nd.

-OK!

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Because we found this picture online.

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Honest to God, we didn't make this picture.

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-OK.

-I think we googled "Michael Fassbender" and "birthday"

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and I swear to God, this is the picture that came up.

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That was last April, I think!

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Happy days!

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That was a good one!

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Adorable.

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Now, Michael and Kate are here to talk about the biopic, Steve Jobs.

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Now, it opens next Friday 13th, directed by Danny Boyle.

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Obviously, Michael, you play Steve Jobs.

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Now, when we look at you, we do not think

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"Oh, my God, he looks just like Steve Jobs."

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So were you nervous about going into this?

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Well, you know, I said to Danny, are you sure?

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Because, you know, exactly that.

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I said I don't look anything like the man.

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And he said, you know...

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Yes, you know.

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You really don't!

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That wasn't a planned thing, cos

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Danny was like, "I want you to get the essence of the man."

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I am not interested in lookalikes and, you know, the audience

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will deal with that in the first five minutes.

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And I think they do. Audiences are smart enough.

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And he said, well, OK, we're not going down that route.

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By the time we got to the third act, I was talking to Danny.

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I said, "I think we should roll out the rollneck

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"and the jeans and give the audience something in the third act."

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We got the glasses and that all happened kind of organically.

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And Kate, who do you play?

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I play, so, I, by the way, I just have to say

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the film is really fantastic and Michael is really fantastic in it.

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Moving on swiftly. I know you hate me doing that. But I have to say.

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I played a woman named Joanna Hoffman.

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I look absolutely nothing like her at all.

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This is the reveal.

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LAUGHTER

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That's her now, that's closer to her now.

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Um, she was the head of marketing for Macintosh.

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And she stayed in Steve's life as a friend for a very long time

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and in the film she is like his right-hand woman and his work-wife.

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She's a hot-headed Polish-Armenian woman.

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She arrived complete with accent for the read-through on the first day.

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That is annoying.

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And it was annoying! Oh, shit(!)

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What can we do?!

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We were beside ourselves with fear.

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With biopics, often you have a lot of licence

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but this is such recent history,

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everyone's got an opinion on what happened, the man.

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How do you think he fares?

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Do you think it's fair? Is he let off easy, do you think it's harsh?

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Well, it's kind of hard for me to say because even like,

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when I was reading the script, and Danny was saying,

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"he's being quite difficult here."

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You know, he's not that likeable.

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I just saw somebody who was literally trying to move mountains.

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He had a vision from the mid-'70s,

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that, you know, we are experiencing now, you know, 35 years later.

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And plus, and so trying to drag everybody along to his vision

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I think required an awful amount of focus, determination and drive.

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And I think perhaps there was a little bit of lack of patience on his part?

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Putting it maybe mildly!

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But it took an extraordinary amount of energy to get there.

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And I think he demanded the very best from people.

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Listen, we have a clip. This is your character, Kate,

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confronting Steve Jobs not as an inventor or innovator, but as a dad.

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Don't you think you are having a bizarre overreaction,

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to a 19-year-old girl allowing her mother to list her own house?

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She could have tried.

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Is she supposed to stop her mother? That particular mother...

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She did persuade her to sell the house and she did it to spite me!

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I don't care if she put a pipe bomb in the water heater!

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You're going to fix it, now!

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She has been acting weird for months.

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She's turned on me.

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-Fix it!

-What the...?!

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-Fix it, Steve.

-Take it easy!

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Fix it or I quit. How about that? I quit and you never see me again, how about that?

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Ooh!

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APPLAUSE

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Because obviously you can't meet Steve Jobs

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but you met the real Joanna.

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I did, yeah. And actually, that was quite helpful, I think.

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She is an amazing woman. She's like, "Oh, I lost my Apple bonds. I don't know where they are."

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-Yeah!

-All these shares for Apple. And she was SO not bothered by it.

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I'd be crying in the corner!

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She said, she was so funny. "I misplaced them."

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"Steve would come to my apartment and he said,

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"You know, Joanna, I have to clean this place. It's such a tip.

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"And he cleaned it and then I lost my bonds."

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So she thinks maybe Steve actually threw them away...

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..a rubbish bag and threw them away by accident.

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-Totally not bothered!

-"I don't know where they are!"

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And her accent is very specific to her.

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Yeah, it drove me absolutely mad. It drove me bonkers, to be honest.

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Because now, accents, is it true, 50 Cent, you can do a London accent?

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I think I can do a little something.

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But it's a different thing, bruv.

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Oh, that's very good!

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-That was it, right there.

-Very good.

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That was very good. But Julie, you're good at the accents.

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What ones are hard? Which ones do you struggle with?

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Geordie, I think is a hard one, for me.

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Liverpool was very hard when I first did it.

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Because I'm from Birmingham and people get them mixed up anyway.

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Because there is kind of similarity

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but not really, once you learn Liverpool, it's not.

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50, you can do your Geordie because you're going to Newcastle tomorrow.

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Yeah, but I'm not gonna do that one.

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Fair enough!

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I am going as 50 Cent!

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Yeah, they won't be doing that.

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But Michael, in X-Men, you're not doing an accent but you are,

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this next movie, is this the movie

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when you kind of turn into Ian McKellen?

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Well... Not, really!

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It's strange.

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For the first one I used my own accent.

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And then for the second one I did Ian McKellen's accent.

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So for this one it's kind of a hybrid between the two!

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A little confused, actually. Um, yeah.

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But do you have to talk to yourself in this one?

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How do you mean?

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You have to talk to Ian McKellen?

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Oh, no, no, I don't talk to him, in this.

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As in, like, to prepare?

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-Or in the actual film?

-In the film!

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It is time travelling crap! I don't know.

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That was the last one.

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Yeah, you met in the last one!

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Cos he's not in this one.

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Oh, that's not a spoiler, is it? Er...!

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I don't think he's in it, anyway.

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Am I sure he's not?!

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Are YOU in it?!

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I did. For the last one, I listened to, you know, various tapes.

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Can you do a bit?

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I'll give it a little go.

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"Three days as the crow flies."

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LAUGHTER

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And Kate Winslet, of course, you are doing your Australian accent.

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Oh, yes, I'm in another film!

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-Yes, you're in another film! The Dressmaker.

-Yes.

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And so what is this one about, The Dressmaker?

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OK, The Dressmaker is based on a book,

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it's a dark comedy set in the '50s in a small town in Australia.

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And I play a woman, Tilly Dunnage, who has been ostracised by the town

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at the age of ten, wrongfully accused of being responsible

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for the murder of a fellow schoolmate

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and the opening scene of the film, she gets off the bus

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and says, "I'm back, you bastards."

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And the whole story is about revenge and also the rediscovery

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of a fragmented mother-daughter relationship.

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The mother played by Judy Davis as a senile old bat. She's fantastic.

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So it's a dark comedy. With Liam Hemsworth, as well.

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All right, well, actually we've got a clip and this is you and Judy and Liam, all together.

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She tells them, if they want it done properly,

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they've got to strip and be measured, because

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it's a work of art made special for them and no-one else.

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You see, Tilly, I do listen.

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She tells them that they are all different,

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even though they're all the same.

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Too fat, too skinny. "You'll be a sight for sore eyes."

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Anyway, lo and behold, our genius here does makes them look different!

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Less like themselves and more like they want to be, don't you?

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You just called me Tilly.

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When?

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Just then.

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I never.

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Yes, you did. And this morning, twice.

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Ah, lies. Liar!

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Sounds like this is the most important piece of clothing I'll ever own!

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LAUGHTER

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You sold so many tickets right there.

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Struggling, struggling to keep a straight face during that scene.

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I've got to tell you - poor Liam, bless him.

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For 12 hours straight, we kept making him take his clothes off!

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We didn't mean to or anything(!)

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It was an accident.

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Yeah! Well, we kept making mistakes and had to keep going again!

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Terrible! But Judy and I had a hard time keeping a straight face.

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I don't know why.

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The whole concept of that scene is just so silly and funny.

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But, yes, lovely Liam. He's a very sweet guy.

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That is very upstaging!

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B-doing!

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My teenage daughter was FURIOUS that I got to be

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in the same space as him in that moment.

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She was like, "Oh, oh, oh, oh".

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It was just a series of sounds that she made.

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People will really want to know now.

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That is The Dressmaker, out November 20th, all right, everybody?

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Yes, see it then.

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But now ladies and gentlemen,

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50 Cent, the MUSICIAN, has returned to us.

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You are back, yes, you are!

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APPLAUSE

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Now, we're going to see, we'll see a clip of the video

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for 9 Shots, the new single, in a minute,

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but it goes back to an early terrible experience in your life.

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If your guys aren't familiar with this story of what happened,

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it's amazing, go!

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Well...

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No pressure or anything!

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I got you know, shot, nine times, but it was one time

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and I just didn't see the person coming, or I would have avoided it.

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Yes, you would!

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You know, this happened and I was trying to write a song,

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conceptually, that would define more of who I am, so I wrote

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9 Shots and just picked nine painful moments

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that I experienced in my life and used the shot as a metaphor.

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Where were you shot, where?

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In front of my grandmother's house.

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But where on your body?!

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That's like being in the doctor's office, isn't it?!

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I got, most of 'em in the legs,

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I got hit in the hand, I got hit in the face.

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So, like, a fragment, a portion of it is in my tongue

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so it kind of changed the way I speak a little bit.

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And your rapping as well?

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-Is it still in your tongue?

-Can you see it?

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Yes, it's great for oral sex!

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-Oh, right, I didn't know that!

-You connect!

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Make sure you keep that bit in the show!

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Yeah! Let me just make a note of that, er...!

0:17:340:17:37

I'm a better man now!

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-Is it like a lump, can you see it?

-Yeah!

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Let's have a feel, 50, may I?

0:17:430:17:45

LAUGHTER

0:17:450:17:46

I've washed my hands.

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Oh, Sexy, you gonna put your finger in my mouth?!

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Oh, no, stop it!

0:17:520:17:54

-AUDIENCE:

-Oooh!

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I'd better not, darling.

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Just have a look, see if you can find it.

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I need a napkin.

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-I need a napkin.

-Has anybody got a tissue?

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A clean one!

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These ladies, these ladies. Thank you.

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Oh, look, they're still hermetically sealed, thank you very much!

0:18:090:18:13

There they go, lovely.

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Wow, how did you prepare? Did someone tell you to come with this?!

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How did that happen? What's the odds of that,

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-you just sitting in the front row with this?

-Yeah!

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Who does this kind of stuff, right?

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It only happens on this programme, honestly.

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Yeah, I can feel it.

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APPLAUSE

0:18:370:18:39

She's going to sell those on eBay!

0:18:450:18:47

Very good, yeah, eBay! Tonight.

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Yeah.

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Wait till tomorrow night after the show, they'll be worth a lot, yeah!

0:18:510:18:55

Hey, we've got a bit of the music video.

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This is you performing 9 Shots.

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-HE RAPS:

-First shot, bullet wound in my back

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I'm ... up, look at my sneakers, I'm ...

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Now I'm on my own, Mommy gone

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Sam said, "You a young boy, why your clothes look so old?"

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"You don't need fish, little ..., you need a pole

0:19:110:19:13

You don't need no new kicks, you need a O

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Chop that, bag it, get right back at it

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That touched me, it hit me in my heart

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I'm a hustler, homie, you was giving me my start

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I am what I am, Sabrina's only baby

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Practising in the mirror, pulling out my .380, man...

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APPLAUSE

0:19:300:19:32

9 Shots is available now.

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Julie, as a fan, where would you rate that in 50's oeuvre?

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Ooh, I'd say right...which, the tongue or the...?

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The music!

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Wait until I tell my husband about that!

0:19:490:19:52

Go and shoot him in the mouth!

0:19:520:19:54

-It's good for oral sex!

-Exactly.

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Yeah, he'll understand, won't he?

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It's right up there. It's right up there.

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Now, the music.

0:20:040:20:05

Is it hard to get back to the music because you seem to be

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doing so much acting now? I've seen you in quite a few movies.

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Well, I actually use my characters now.

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Like, recurring characters.

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I play a reoccurring character on my show, Power,

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the largest original series on the network.

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And you were in that and you were executive producer as well?

0:20:220:20:25

Yeah, I actually developed it from scratch. Yeah.

0:20:250:20:29

Well done, you! Hmmm! Yeah!

0:20:290:20:33

APPLAUSE

0:20:330:20:35

Now, you haven't worked with the mighty Meryl Streep,

0:20:360:20:39

but you've met her, you've spent time with her?

0:20:390:20:42

Yeah, yeah, we were in the same place to watch the basketball game.

0:20:420:20:47

Oh, the basketball game? Oh, yeah.

0:20:470:20:49

It wasn't her first, well, it was her first live basketball game.

0:20:490:20:52

It was interesting because I had a bit of normalcy,

0:20:520:20:57

it was like a punch of normalcy,

0:20:570:20:59

cos I sat next to her and her influence was so strong,

0:20:590:21:01

that it was like, OK, I'm regular today!

0:21:010:21:04

"Wow, this is great, like, nobody cares I'm here now!"

0:21:060:21:09

Now, somebody got a picture of the two of you. There you are.

0:21:100:21:14

That's great!

0:21:140:21:15

You know what is interesting?

0:21:150:21:17

Every picture I saw of that day didn't have the other side of Meryl.

0:21:170:21:19

Her husband was sitting on the other side of her.

0:21:190:21:22

It was like, every photographer got the memo,

0:21:220:21:24

"Don't you take this motherfucking picture!"

0:21:240:21:26

LAUGHTER

0:21:260:21:28

You look like you're feeling the cold there, 50!

0:21:310:21:35

I'm in New York City, I'm wearing a Jets hat. It's freezing outside.

0:21:350:21:38

I'm trying to do the...

0:21:380:21:40

I'm not a big Jets fan but I have to,

0:21:400:21:42

from New York City, you have to wear it.

0:21:420:21:44

And of course, going from acting into music is one thing,

0:21:440:21:46

but then, Michael, music was your first love?

0:21:460:21:50

-Was it not?

-Yep, yep. But, er...

0:21:500:21:53

Were you in a band?

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You couldn't really classify it as a band, there was only two of us.

0:21:560:22:00

So, you know, his name was Michael, too, so, er,...

0:22:000:22:04

-Michael and Michael?

-That's right, yeah.

0:22:040:22:06

Did you have a name?

0:22:060:22:08

We didn't, actually. We never got round to getting a name.

0:22:080:22:11

I think Sargasso Sea was something that I was...

0:22:110:22:15

LAUGHTER

0:22:150:22:17

"Live music, Sunday night, Sargasso Sea!"

0:22:170:22:19

I remember looking through the atlas!

0:22:190:22:22

It was a heavy metal band so Sargasso Sea was quite apt.

0:22:220:22:27

Er, yeah, we didn't...

0:22:270:22:29

-Heavy metal?!

-Yeah.

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That's just so unlike you.

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In the future, Michael, play like the heavy metal stars.

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I've been trying, I've been putting it out there for a while!

0:22:360:22:40

Did you do gigs?

0:22:400:22:42

We did one gig, in Dingle.

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Sorry, it wasn't Dingle! It wasn't Dingle, sorry,

0:22:440:22:47

tell a lie, it wasn't Dingle. It was Killorglin.

0:22:470:22:49

Oh, yes! They love heavy metal there! Yeah!

0:22:490:22:53

It was a pub, too. It was supposed to be busking with electric guitars.

0:22:530:22:58

And it's always raining in Ireland so that kind of didn't really work!

0:22:580:23:02

So we convinced the pub to let us come in at lunchtime

0:23:020:23:06

and play heavy metal!

0:23:060:23:08

LAUGHTER

0:23:080:23:09

Yes, they were sort of like, "can you just turn it down a bit?"

0:23:100:23:14

"Turn it down another little bit."

0:23:160:23:17

So eventually we were just playing unplugged.

0:23:170:23:20

-APPLAUSE

-It didn't go down that well...

0:23:200:23:23

At one o'clock in the afternoon.

0:23:230:23:25

Julie Walters brings us a beautiful film, Brooklyn,

0:23:280:23:31

based on the Colm Toibin novel.

0:23:310:23:34

Now, you'd read the novel before it was a film or...?

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Yeah. I loved the novel. Yes, it was fantastic when it came in

0:23:370:23:40

and the character that I play was the one I really remember.

0:23:400:23:42

Obviously I remember the central character but she's a young girl

0:23:420:23:45

but I really remembered Mrs Kehoe

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because she reminded me of all my mother's friends, you know,

0:23:470:23:51

sort of a mixture of them.

0:23:510:23:52

It was gorgeous, it was the '50s, so yes.

0:23:520:23:55

So you're Mrs Kehoe.

0:23:550:23:56

Yes. I'm Mrs Kehoe.

0:23:560:23:57

-Key-oh.

-Yes.

0:23:570:23:59

K-E-O-G-H?

0:23:590:24:01

No. K-E-H-OE. So I suppose it probably is Mrs Key-hoe.

0:24:010:24:05

But I thought that sounded a bit rude.

0:24:050:24:08

That's what I thought!

0:24:110:24:13

-So I stuck to Key-oh.

-Key-oh.

-Yeah.

0:24:130:24:15

How does Mrs Kehoe fit into the story?

0:24:150:24:18

Well, the story is about a girl who leaves Ireland.

0:24:180:24:21

Saoirse Ronan, who's fabulous. She's so good.

0:24:210:24:24

Saoirse Ronan, she is amazing.

0:24:240:24:27

She made me feel I should go to drama school, really.

0:24:270:24:31

She was just so focused and confident and self... just brilliant

0:24:310:24:35

and a lovely person. Anyway...

0:24:350:24:37

She plays this young girl who leaves Ireland for a better life,

0:24:370:24:40

basically, in New York, in Brooklyn

0:24:400:24:43

and it's all arranged by the parish priest in Brooklyn, who is played

0:24:430:24:48

by Jim Broadbent, brilliantly.

0:24:480:24:50

And she moves into this boarding house and I'm the...

0:24:510:24:54

with all these other single Catholic Irish girls

0:24:540:24:57

and a couple of American girls.

0:24:570:24:59

And the woman who presides over it is this very, very attractive,

0:24:590:25:02

sexually charismatic woman.

0:25:020:25:04

LAUGHTER

0:25:040:25:06

Is played by me!

0:25:080:25:10

CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

0:25:130:25:15

They're with you!

0:25:150:25:16

-You haven't got a - what do you call it? A clip?

-We do!

0:25:180:25:22

So Brooklyn, it's out tonight

0:25:220:25:25

and this is the very sexually alluring Mrs Kehoe...

0:25:250:25:28

-I look terrible in it.

-You look lovely.

-Stop it!

0:25:290:25:33

You are wearing a very nice cardigan.

0:25:330:25:35

The cardies were great. Just look at the cardie.

0:25:350:25:37

This is Julie looking after her girls.

0:25:370:25:40

What is the matter with you girls, now?

0:25:460:25:48

Nothing is the matter with us, Mrs Kehoe.

0:25:480:25:50

Is this because Eilis has found herself a young man?

0:25:500:25:53

Eilis has a young man? We didn't know. She won't say anything.

0:25:530:25:57

Why should she? To you awful gossip-mongers?

0:25:570:26:00

GIGGLES

0:26:000:26:01

Anyway, I met him on Saturday night

0:26:010:26:03

when he called for Eilis and he is a gentleman.

0:26:030:26:06

Will you tell us what you know about him, Mrs Kehoe?

0:26:060:26:08

-We know he's quite nice looking.

-I didn't like his shoes much.

0:26:080:26:12

What on earth is wrong with his shoes?

0:26:120:26:14

They were a funny colour.

0:26:140:26:17

I tell you this much - I'm going to ask Barbara Flood

0:26:170:26:19

to preach a sermon on the dangers of giddiness.

0:26:190:26:22

I see now that giddiness is the eighth deadly sin.

0:26:220:26:25

A giddy girl is every bit as evil as a slothful man

0:26:250:26:29

and the noise she makes is a lot worse.

0:26:290:26:32

Enough!

0:26:320:26:34

APPLAUSE

0:26:380:26:40

-It's a lovely film. It's beautiful.

-Thank you.

0:26:460:26:48

-Now, you've been on a few times, Julie.

-Have I?

0:26:480:26:51

-Here.

-Oh, yes.

0:26:510:26:52

I don't think we've ever mentioned Educating Rita.

0:26:550:26:58

CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

0:26:580:27:01

How many years ago? 36, 37 years ago.

0:27:030:27:06

-Is it really, wow?

-Yes.

0:27:060:27:08

-Because you were originally in Educating Rita on stage.

-Yes.

0:27:080:27:11

-And it was a big success.

-Yes.

0:27:110:27:13

And the movie, you weren't supposed to do that.

0:27:130:27:16

-Or that wasn't going to happen.

-No, it wasn't.

0:27:160:27:19

Well, Lewis Gilbert, who directed the film eventually,

0:27:190:27:22

came to see the play and then rang me

0:27:220:27:24

and said that he wanted to make the film,

0:27:240:27:27

and he wanted to use me

0:27:270:27:28

but he wasn't sure that he was going to be able to

0:27:280:27:32

because knew nobody knew who I was.

0:27:320:27:33

He would need a star to get the money

0:27:330:27:36

and all of this and he was going to America to try and raise some money.

0:27:360:27:39

But when he went to America, they wanted Dolly Parton.

0:27:390:27:43

LAUGHTER

0:27:430:27:44

Yes, exactly.

0:27:460:27:47

It would have been a very different film.

0:27:480:27:51

Yes, two reasons why I couldn't compete.

0:27:510:27:53

-Is that really true, Julie?

-Yes, it's true.

0:27:530:27:56

Paul Newman and Dolly Parton, they wanted. It would have been fabulous

0:27:560:28:00

but it was Liverpudlian, you know.

0:28:000:28:02

Anyway, Lewis was wonderful and he just said no, we're not going to go

0:28:020:28:05

down that road. And he came back and he rang me up

0:28:050:28:07

and he said we've got Michael so we can have you.

0:28:070:28:10

We've got a star so we can have you.

0:28:100:28:12

And you didn't get the Oscar but you

0:28:130:28:15

-did get a BAFTA, didn't you?

-Yes, I did.

0:28:150:28:18

-You were very excited to win the BAFTA.

-Stop it.

0:28:180:28:20

I know what you're going to go on about.

0:28:210:28:23

I had had a drop taken that night.

0:28:230:28:25

That's all. I didn't expect to win.

0:28:270:28:30

In those days, the BAFTA awards -

0:28:300:28:31

this is a very long time ago, before you people -

0:28:310:28:34

we used to have dinner before... how much of a mistake is that?

0:28:340:28:38

That's a disaster, isn't it? That's a big no-no, especially in England.

0:28:380:28:42

I mean, people were absolutely plastered. Well, not everybody.

0:28:420:28:46

I was. It was the first one I'd been to and they just filled your glass.

0:28:460:28:49

I was terribly nervous anyway, in case I might have to go up, you know

0:28:490:28:53

and all of this. It was deadly when I went up.

0:28:530:28:57

I thought I was being really very funny and obviously I wasn't.

0:28:570:29:01

I was really pissed.

0:29:010:29:02

I don't know.

0:29:030:29:05

We have a picture of that night.

0:29:050:29:07

You haven't!

0:29:070:29:10

You really can't tell, I don't think.

0:29:100:29:12

Stop it!

0:29:120:29:13

APPLAUSE

0:29:130:29:16

Oh, my God!

0:29:160:29:21

Oh, I have never seen that before.

0:29:210:29:24

Stop, take it off the screen!

0:29:240:29:26

-I have never seen it.

-Take it away.

0:29:260:29:29

I ended up under the table with a very famous actor

0:29:290:29:31

and I can't remember who it was.

0:29:310:29:33

LAUGHTER

0:29:330:29:35

Like only actors can, we were putting the world to rights.

0:29:350:29:38

Well - I don't know why SHE won! I don't know why HE won!

0:29:380:29:41

And I missed meeting Princess Anne. She's never spoken to me since!

0:29:410:29:44

Kate Winslet, when you talk about your Oscar, I like it because

0:29:470:29:50

no false modesty, you wanted to win it and you loved winning it.

0:29:500:29:53

It was just a brilliant thing.

0:29:530:29:55

I am still thrilled even now.

0:29:550:29:57

It was about seven years ago!

0:29:570:29:59

It was the most extraordinary moment. I had, er...

0:29:590:30:03

You had been nominated a bunch of times.

0:30:030:30:05

You see, the thing is... You get really good at losing,

0:30:050:30:08

when you get nominated more than a couple of times.

0:30:080:30:11

Weren't you nominated twice that same year?

0:30:110:30:13

-No, I had been...

-Two categories.

0:30:130:30:16

Don't make me say it.

0:30:160:30:17

Sorry. I've said it for you.

0:30:170:30:20

You were up in two categories that year?

0:30:200:30:24

I had two films come out at the same time, which is not uncommon.

0:30:240:30:28

It just so happened both of those films were getting this

0:30:290:30:32

type of attention.

0:30:320:30:34

I went to the Golden Globes that year and I had been nominated

0:30:340:30:37

in two different categories and won them both.

0:30:370:30:39

Which was quite fabulous, actually.

0:30:390:30:41

Sorry, everybody else.

0:30:430:30:45

It does look greedy.

0:30:460:30:47

-Oh, I know.

-She's just showing off.

0:30:470:30:50

LAUGHTER

0:30:500:30:52

-I am completely showing off. 100%.

-Quite right, I say to you.

0:30:520:30:56

And then when I did win, it was a really fantastic moment,

0:30:560:31:00

I've got to say.

0:31:000:31:02

It was, you know, it was a personal fist pumping moment,

0:31:020:31:05

the biggest one of my whole life.

0:31:050:31:06

But you're really generous with the Oscar, aren't you?

0:31:060:31:09

Well, one tries!

0:31:090:31:10

You know, the thing is, first of all, it's very heavy.

0:31:100:31:14

I just need to say that. It weighs about six or seven pounds.

0:31:140:31:17

It's really surprisingly heavy.

0:31:170:31:20

And everyone wants to have a hold,

0:31:200:31:23

of course, and stand up and go "I'd like to thank..."

0:31:230:31:26

LAUGHTER

0:31:260:31:28

"My primary school teachers and my mum and dad..."

0:31:280:31:30

and so, the best place really for Oscar is actually the loo

0:31:300:31:34

because then when everyone goes in for a wee or a poo, they can really

0:31:340:31:37

take their time in front of the mirror with Oscar

0:31:370:31:40

and you can always tell because they flush and then there's about

0:31:400:31:43

another five minutes...

0:31:430:31:45

"You're playing with Oscar!" And then they come out...

0:31:460:31:49

CLEARS THROAT

0:31:490:31:52

How was Oscar? They go, "Oh, my God! He's so heavy!"

0:31:520:31:55

But, yes, it's a lot of fun watching people.

0:31:550:31:58

-It's the time test. Too long for a pee, too short for a poo.

-Yes.

0:31:580:32:00

You know they're in there with the Oscar.

0:32:000:32:03

LAUGHTER

0:32:030:32:04

Because you went through the whole Oscar thing, Michael.

0:32:040:32:08

Did you go with a speech in your pocket?

0:32:080:32:11

No, I didn't. I don't know why. I never really prepare speeches.

0:32:110:32:16

I probably should, looking back on some of the ones that I've made.

0:32:160:32:20

Especially a best man's speech that I did one time which was awful.

0:32:200:32:24

-I just really kind of went blank.

-Oh, no.

0:32:240:32:27

Yes, it was. It's OK. They're divorced now.

0:32:270:32:29

LAUGHTER

0:32:290:32:30

You didn't waste your time.

0:32:310:32:34

-You're not joking, are you?

-No, I'm not.

0:32:340:32:39

-But, yes, no. I never prepare, no.

-Have you been to the Oscars, 50?

0:32:390:32:43

Once. I was like, in the back.

0:32:430:32:45

-Were you near the bar?

-I just wanted to feel the energy.

0:32:470:32:51

You know, when they're taking selfies and stuff like that.

0:32:510:32:55

Waving at Meryl. We've met!

0:32:550:32:57

Putting on your green hat. It's me!

0:32:590:33:01

Right. It's time for our musical performance.

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The winner of the Best Female Artist at the Brits last year.

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The first two albums went platinum and now she's back for the third.

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Performing her current single, On My Mind, please welcome Ellie Goulding.

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# Oh-oh

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# Oh-oh oh oh-oh

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# It...

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# It's a little blurry how the whole thing started

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# I don't even really know what you intended

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# Thought that you were cute and you could make me jealous

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# Poured it down, so I poured it down

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# Next thing that I know, I'm in a hotel with you

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# You were talking deep, like it was mad love to you

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# You wanted my heart but I just liked your tattoos

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# Poured it down, so I poured it down

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# And now I don't understand it

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# You don't mess with love, you mess with the truth

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# And I know I shouldn't say it

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# But my heart don't understand why I got you on my mind

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# Why I got you on my mind

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# Why I got you on my mind

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# Why I got you on...

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# My heart don't understand why I got you on my mind

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# Why I got you on my mind

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# Why I got you on my mind

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# Why I got you on my...

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# Ah-ah ah-ah ah-ah ah-ah ah-ah

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# Now, I always hear, I always hear them talking

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# Talking 'bout a girl, 'bout a girl with my name

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# Saying that I hurt you, but I still don't get it

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# You didn't love me No, not really

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# But wait!

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# I could've really liked you

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# I bet, I bet that's why I keep on thinking 'bout you

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-# It's a shame

-It's a shame

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# You said I was good, so I poured it down

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# So I poured it down

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# And now I don't understand it

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# You don't mess with love, you mess with the truth

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# And I know I shouldn't say it

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# But my heart don't understand why I got you on my mind

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# Why I got you on my mind

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# Why I got you on my mind

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# Why I got you on my mind

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# Why I got you on my...

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-# You think you know somebody

-Why I got you on my mind

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-# You think you know somebody

-Why I got you on my mind

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-# You think you know somebody

-Why I got you on my mind

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# Mind

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# You got yourself

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# In a dangerous zone

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# Cos we both got the fear

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# Fear of being alone

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# And I still don't understand it

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# You don't mess with love, you mess with the truth

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# And my heart don't understand it, understand it

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# Understand it

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# Oh, no, no, no, no, no

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-# Why I got you on my mind

-You think you know somebody

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-# Why I got you on my mind

-You think you know somebody

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-# Why I got you on my mind

-You think you know somebody

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# Why I got you on...

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# My heart don't understand why I got you on my mind

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# Oh, oh, oh

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# Oh, oh, yeah, yeah

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-# You think you know somebody

-Why I got you on my mind

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# And my heart don't understand why I got you on my mind

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# You think you know somebody

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-# Why I got you on my mind

-You think you know somebody

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-# Why I got you on my mind

-You think you know somebody

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# I-I-I-I

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# Oh, yeah. #

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CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

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Ellie Goulding, everybody!

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Come over and join us, do.

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Ellie Goulding!

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-Oh, that's gorgeous. How are you? Come and join everybody.

-Thank you.

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You sit yourself down there beside 50

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with Julie, Michael, Kate. They're all here. The gang's all in. Lovely.

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Lovely.

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Now, congratulations, that looked and sounded marvellous.

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And that's the single, On My Mind, and that's from Delirium,

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the album, which is available now!

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-Yes, it's out.

-The video for that song is pretty epic.

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-They went to town on the video.

-Yeah.

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-So, you were in Vegas?

-Yep.

-But did they shut Vegas for you?

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Er, we got to ride horses through an old casino.

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Actually, it's still running, you can still gamble there.

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But it was all very surreal and bizarre,

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especially the horse-riding bit.

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-We've got a picture of you. This is you on the Strip.

-Oh, wow!

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-And you go quite fast!

-Erm, yeah, we had to. We did have to.

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I mean, I've ridden horses before, so it wasn't that scary,

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but they were a little bit scared, I think,

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so they did poo a lot.

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-Inside the casino?

-Inside, yeah.

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And did you have to go, like, down steps and things on a horse?

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Yeah, we pretty much had to do everything. I do all my own stunts.

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That's difficult!

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Yeah, it was hard,

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but I wanted to make something sort of Thelma & Louise, quite epic.

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-It was different.

-Yeah, different.

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I definitely wouldnt've went down steps on a horse.

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-Do you spend a lot of time in Vegas, 50?

-Yeah, I'm out there a lot.

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But to go down the steps on a horse...

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My horse needs another horse in front of it to follow.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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-And somebody else on top of it.

-Right.

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To make sure we not doing nothing,

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I'm not signalling for it to do anything crazy.

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No, because, Michael Fassbender, was it on Jane Eyre you had a horse?

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You had a very badly behaved horse

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-on Jane Eyre.

-Prince. Yeah.

-Prince was the horse.

-Yeah, yeah.

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So, what would happen?

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Well, he used to get quite aroused whenever I got on his back.

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-Did he?

-Yeah, he did, yeah.

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I could understand that!

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CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

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Dan, the horse handler, had to get on it and sort of, y'know,

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canter him or give him a little trot so he'd sort of slap off his...

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his...

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retract it back in and then it was good to go.

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-Until you got on again.

-Until I got on again, and then...

-"Cut!"

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-You can't have that in your lovely Jane Eyre film!

-Yeah, yeah.

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"Jane!"

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Now, of course, Ellie, a lot of people discovered you through

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-the Christmas ad, the John Lewis ad.

-Yeah.

-Your Song.

-Yeah.

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That was a kind of a big deal for you.

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I mean, that did introduce you to a whole different level.

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-JULIE:

-It was lovely.

-Oh, thank you!

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Yeah, I'd released songs of a more electronic orientation,

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and then, when I did that song, it was just my voice and a piano.

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And I did it with Ben Lovett from Mumford & Sons,

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and he directed me, and, yeah, it was like people had heard me

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for the very first time when that advert came out.

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Yeah. Because this Christmas,

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someone on the couch will be featuring heavily in a Christmas ad.

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Yes! Kate Winslet looked at me, like, "Am I in a Christmas ad?"

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"Wait, I'm sure I didn't..."

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-That's what they're all thinking!

-"Did I do M&S this year?

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"I can't remember."

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-No, but so posh, you're in the Burberry ad.

-I'm in the Burberry!

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-Yes.

-You did have to jump up and down on a trampoline, though.

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Oh, it was heaven.

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-It was heaven!

-I can't jump on trampolines any more.

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-I wet myself.

-Well, you do.

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You do. You absolutely do. I thought it was my age.

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-Cos you're laughing?

-No!

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When you've had a few children, you know, it's just what happens.

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-You haven't had children, have you?

-I still wet myself.

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-Do you?

-Yes.

-Just generally speaking.

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Two sneezes, I'm fine. Three..

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it's game over. Game over.

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-Is it a nice feeling?

-No!

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It's bloody awful, and especially if you're wearing a skirt.

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Yes, but also, in borrowed Burberry clothes, you don't want to...

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You don't want to make... I was terribly embarrassed the first time.

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I said, "I'm sorry! I'm sorry!" And it was terribly ungainly,

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because you're on a trampoline trying to get off it, you know?

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But I loved it. It makes you so high!

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I was high as a kite! I could have gone on!

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At my great age, I could have gone on for hours doing it.

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APPLAUSE

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Well, er, Ellie, good luck with the album and the tour.

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Ellie Goulding, everybody. Thank you very much.

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CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

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Very quickly before we go,

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we've just got time for a quick visit to the big red chair. Who's there?

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-Hello, sir.

-Hi.

-Hi. What's your name?

-I'm Spence.

-Spence?

-Yeah.

-Lovely.

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-And where are you from, Spence?

-I'm from Devon.

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-Devon.

-Yeah.

-All right. Do you live in Devon or here?

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No, I live in, er, Kentish Town at the moment.

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OK. You had to think about that. Must be hard getting a cab.

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And, er, what do you do, Devon? No, you're not Devon. Who are you?

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-Spence.

-Spence!

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APPLAUSE

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-Spence. What do you do, Spence?

-I'm a student.

-A student of...?

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-Clinical molecular endocrinology.

-He-llo!

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Finally! Finally a student of

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clinical molecular something or other.

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-Off you go, Spence.

-OK.

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So, erm, I've got three older brothers, and back in the day,

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-we found out Titanic was coming out.

-Oh!

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We were all very excited, the four of us, that Kate Winslet,

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-you know, sort of...

-Yes, we understand. Keep going.

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-Oh, God!

-We may flip you. Keep going.

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We convinced my mum to take us in the car to the cinema.

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And we watched for an hour and a half of Titanic,

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and as it came up to the scene,

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my mum sort of covered my eyes like this. All my brothers got to see.

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And I was so angry I walked out and sort of got grounded...

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How very dare you walk out of a film I am in!

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APPLAUSE

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-Definitely not invited, that one.

-All right. That is it for tonight.

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Please say thank you to my lovely guests.

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Ellie Goulding! CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

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50 Cent! CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

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Julie Walters! CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

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Michael Fassbender! CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

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And Kate Winslet! CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

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We're not here next week. It's Children in Need.

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But do join me in two weeks' time, with comeback kings Duran Duran,

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comedian David Walliams, Doctor Who Peter Capaldi and the one

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and only Mr Tom Hanks!

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I'll see you then. Good night, everybody, bye-bye!

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CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

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