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-Hi, I'm Guy Ritchie.

-I'm Charlie Hunnam.

-Welcome to The Graham Norton Show!

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APPLAUSE AND CHEERING

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APPLAUSE AND CHEERING

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Oh!

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For me? Is that for me?

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Thank you.

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Thank you so much!

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No... No.

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It's getting silly now. Hello and welcome!

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Ladies and gentleman, we have a packed sofa tonight.

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Sadly two people we HAVEN'T got on the show are the Prime Minister

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and her lovely husband, Philip.

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LAUGHTER

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Have you seen them on The One Show? Woohoo(!)

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Yeah! Riveting.

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They spent most of the interview speaking about their marriage.

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Guess what? It's strong and stable.

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Who knew? They also spoke about their home life.

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She's a good cook, he takes out the bins.

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And she's never had a red box in the bedroom.

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LAUGHTER Bit more than I wanted to know, if I'm honest.

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Hey, the election campaign REALLY hotted up this week.

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Who am I kidding?!

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Yeah, the draft Labour manifesto got leaked.

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Jeremy Corbyn's proposal is a massive increase

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in education spending.

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He says there are too many people in the country who can't even count.

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I mean, here he is with one of them.

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Yeah.

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APPLAUSE

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Meanwhile, Liberal Democrat leader Tim Farron... There he is!

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That's Tim Farron. He said he has completely ruled out

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a coalition with any other parties.

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Yeah, in much the same way that I've completely ruled out marrying

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Brad Pitt. Yeah, all MY decision. Yeah.

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New Ukip leader, Paul Nuttall...

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He laid out his plans - well done, him. In order to cut immigration,

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Ukip have proposed a "one in, one out" system in Britain.

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So, say we'd take in a Polish nurse and then we could swap them for...

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Oh, yeah, lovely. Yeah, it's good. This is working.

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In European news, France has a new president. Un president.

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Yes, that is President Macron, with his wife, Brigitte.

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Now, there were raised eyebrows that Brigitte is 24 years older than him.

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But, hey, Donald Trump is 24 years older than HIS wife,

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and who is really bothered by that?

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Oh, yeah. Hey, let's get some guests on!

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Later, we will have music from Ireland's own Imelda May!

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CHEERING

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But first, he's one of the funniest men in Britain.

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It's a warm welcome back to my favourite comedian, Jason Manford, everybody!

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-CHEERING Suited and booted. Looking very smart.

-Hello.

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VERY smart! Yeah, lovely, lovely.

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From teenage pop star to award-winning actress,

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we've loved her in Doctor Who and Penny Dreadful,

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now she's back on the stage as Yerma, it's Billie Piper.

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CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

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-How are you?

-I'm good!

-Jason Manford, Billie Piper.

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And they're the men behind the biggest British movie of the year -

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King Arthur: Legend of the Sword.

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Please welcome iconic British director Guy Ritchie

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and King Arthur himself, Charlie Hunnam!

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CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

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Come on, come on!

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Come on, here you go!

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Hello, sir, very nice to see you. Have a seat.

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Hello, hello. Come in, sit down.

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APPLAUSE AND CHEERING

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Feel the love.

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-Welcome, all. Cheers.

-Chin-chin.

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Cheers, sir, yeah. I like that, yeah, straight in.

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-No messing about.

-It's what got you to the sofa!

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This is the reason I came.

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Ladies and gentleman, something very special tonight -

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this is the first time on the sofa,

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we've had someone who has won both an Olivier Award

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and a Smash Hits award, ladies and gentleman. It's Billie Piper

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has done both those things.

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APPLAUSE Yes!

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It's good.

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Should I get... Could I get an award for THAT?

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You know, when you were getting your Smash Hits award,

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it seemed pretty unlikely you would ever be getting an Olivier Award.

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-Correct.

-That's amazing.

-I know, it was great.

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Jason, you hosted the Olivier Awards.

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I did, yes. The closest I'M going to get to one.

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It was a fun night.

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-You were brilliant.

-You won five awards, I think, that night,

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for Yerma. It was amazing. Just kept coming up.

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You were on stage more than me.

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I think we won two, but...

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-Did you?!

-Yeah, but it was a good night.

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That was one LONG speech!

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When people come round to your house,

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are they impressed that you've got an Olivier Award?

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Yeah, they are. But they love the Smash Hits award,

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cos it's that big... gold, iconic award.

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They love it. They have pictures with it, everything.

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I have to tell you I've never heard of the Olivier Award, but I've heard of the Smash Hits award.

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LAUGHTER First time for Guy and Charlie.

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They have not been here before.

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But you had the premiere of your movie this week, King Arthur.

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-How did it go?

-Very well.

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We had a couple of them. We had one in LA on Monday.

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Oh, smell you!

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I know right, very fancy. Then one last night in Leicester Square.

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You do the red carpet and then do you actually watch the film?

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I can't. It's such a pressure cooker situation.

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I can.

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I can, I'm not being funny.

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It's a little bit embarrassing but I like my films!

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Billie's incredulous. "What?!"

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I like your films.

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But I have this funny thing that I completely forget that I make them.

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I have that memory like Dory.

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It starts and I think, "Oh, what happens next?! Oh, look behind you!"

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I'm that guy. I'm surprised about how many times I can see them.

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Do you annoy people at your own film?

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"Shut up, I'm trying to watch this!"

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Yeah!

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And, Guy Ritchie, you're not afraid of casting non-actors.

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This is the man who gave us Vinnie Jones, the actor.

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CLAPPING Yes. One lady there very happy with Vinnie Jones, the actor.

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He's in the pantheon of thespians.

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And you have another footballer in this one.

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Is it annoying that he's getting so much press for this film?

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It must be annoying YOU.

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"I'm King Arthur! David Beckham is in it for two seconds!"

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-Cos you guys are mates, right?

-Yeah, sort of.

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CHUCKLING

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Don't back away now!

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Oh, he's in it.

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-He is in it.

-I'm not making this up!

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Am I allowed to speak?

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That's great.

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Our kids go to the same school.

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And we go to the same pub and we go to the same sort of gay gym.

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Isn't that just "gym"?

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I think the "gay" is silent.

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LAUGHTER AND APPLAUSE

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-I set you up nicely there, didn't I?

-Thanks.

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Yeah, and one thing led to another.

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As they do...

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-LAUGHTER

-As they do

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in...gyms.

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-Yeah.

-Erm...

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And I've used him before in the previous film that I did,

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Man From UNCLE.

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-GIGGLING

-And I've...

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What's going on?

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They're still in the gym.

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Um, yeah, I've done a couple of commercials with him.

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I love him. He is...

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He's not here. He is genuinely such a nice, nice man.

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A lovely chap. It made sense, one thing led to another.

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You did attempt to make him less beautiful in the film.

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We tried. Have you got...?

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This is the Instagram picture on the day he was shooting.

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That was down to me. I walked on set and said,

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"I think you should check the contracts - I have to be

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"the most handsome man on set at any given time.

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"Becksy is not going to work for me."

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So that's what we did to him.

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-But he still...

-He looks fit.

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Yeah. He still looks fit.

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You'd still give him one, right?

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Oooh.

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-Yeah.

-I tell you what -

-I

-would.

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I thought he was terrific.

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Not only just a lovely, kind, humble fella,

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but showed up so determined to do a good job.

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He's not an actor and I don't think has any real aspiration

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to be an actor. And yet he'd hired an acting coach.

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He's so prepared and sort of nervous and determined.

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I thought, "Wow, good for you, David Beckham."

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-No, he is.

-Not that he needs MY praise, obviously.

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He's cracking on quite well.

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I think it's about time somebody gave him a leg-up.

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He's needed that.

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Finally, a break.

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God love him. He'll be in Corrie next.

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A lot of actors, when they get a big hero movie like this,

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they have to get into shape.

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But you were incredibly ripped before this, weren't you?

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I wasn't actually.

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I'd been doing the last season of a TV show I did in the States,

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Sons Of Anarchy. And I'd lost a lot of weight.

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CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

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The character that I played was going through a great trauma

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during that last season. So I had lost a lot of weight.

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That actually was a bit of stumbling thing for me getting the role.

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Cos Guy had wanted a quite formidable Arthur.

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-And so he was very concerned.

-I was after Seth Rogan.

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He was very concerned about this.

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He would bring it up a lot through the auditioning process.

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And I finally thought... I had a eureka moment.

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We've all heard about the casting couch,

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let's implement the casting cage.

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-Where are we going with this, Charlie?!

-You know where we're going

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with this, boss, don't play coy!

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So I said, "Let's implement the casting cage."

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The last time that Guy said, "Are you sure you can be formidable?"

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I said, "You know what, pal, if you're so concerned about it..." Cos there was a big audition.

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Lots of other little movie stars milling about this hotel,

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going in and out auditioning for Guy.

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It's very awkward, these things.

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You walk past each other in the corridor saying,

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"All right? Good luck, mate."

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So I'd seen who the competition was.

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When Guy brought it up one more time, his concern

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about my physicality, I said,

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"Let's just forget this. Turn the camera off."

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Bring those chimpanzees in here who are auditioning against me

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and we'll have a little fight and whoever walks out

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the room gets the role.

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And I maintain, although Guy denies it,

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that was the moment that I got the part. Cos I saw a little glint

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in his eye and he thought, "That's the cocky..."

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APPLAUSE

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Hold on. Before you go any further.

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He lost. They were much bigger, and I gave him the role out of charity.

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King Arthur: Legend Of The Sword, it opens next Friday, 19th of May.

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We have a clip. Here's one of the big fights.

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On my command!

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SHOUTING AND YELLING

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Whoa!

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Yeah.

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Yeah!

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It's nothing like the cartoon, is it?

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I thought it was like Beauty And The Beast, like a remake.

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It's actually totally different,

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there's no dragon turning into a cat or anything.

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-Oh, there...

-Oh, really?

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No.

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Moving into movies like this,

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Sherlock Holmes or the King Arthur legend and away from the gangster

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movies, do you get fewer visits?

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Cos you used to get visits from real-life gangsters.

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-I still get visits.

-Oh, do you?

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Like knock-on-the-door visits?

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Sort of, you know, those sort of things.

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They see you in the pub or they...

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Already-in-your-house visits?

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"What time do you call this, Guy?!"

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Yeah, there's quite a lot that goes on.

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There's a lot of old gangsters that want to share their stories with

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the world, and I am the default setting if anyone wants to share

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their story with the world, that has done really nefarious

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and nasty things to people - they come straight to me first.

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You've put some of the stories in the movies, haven't you?

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Yeah, I mean, just about all the stories,

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like the fact that Charlie was born in a brothel

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in Arthur, that came from a chap that I knew.

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He was born and raised under the bed in a brothel until he was 15.

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And he had a wonderful way about him that he was tremendously protective

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of all the ladies. And he was quite camp.

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But when it came to being a bit of a chap, he was like an uber-geezer.

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-Yeah.

-So he had this wonderful cashmere-caveman quality about him.

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And I'd imagine, very pale.

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LAUGHTER

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Yeah.

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Because, Charlie Hunnam, you are a little bit of a crim yourself.

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-A crim?

-You've done nicking, haven't you?

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-Um...

-Sons Of Anarchy, you did serious nicking on that.

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The occasional prop.

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No, Sons Of Anarchy, you did SERIOUS nicking on that.

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I stole the motorbike.

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You stole a motorbike!

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-Is that the one you stole?

-Yes. The cat's out of the bag now.

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-But they must have given you that.

-Well,

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I just drove it off and took it home and then said,

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"Is there any way you could send me the pink slip,

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"cos it's not coming back, so we may as well just make it official now."

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I was on that show for eight years.

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I made them a fortune! Come on, the bike's the least I could take.

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I tried to nick a sword on King Arthur,

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and there was a lovely old chap

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whose job it was to look after the swords.

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And he rumbled me mid-theft,

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which is where I realised I'm much better off being an actor

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than trying to be a thief. He rumbled me.

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He said, "Charlie, I think you're a lovely fella and you've been so

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"nice to everyone, I would actually happily let you take this sword,

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"but Guy has requested a brand-new beautiful sword that he's going

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"to present you upon wrap."

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And then wrap came and passed,

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and no sword arrived.

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-LAUGHTER

-So...

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Two things happened.

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Either the old sword wrangler bamboozled me

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or Guy still has my sword.

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Sorry, mate.

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DO you have a sword for him?

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That was, like, the least heartfelt apology!

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I don't even know if that constituted an apology.

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Nah. By the way, this has been going on for...about a year.

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He won't let go of it.

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And I don't intend to, until I get my sword.

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Do you have an apology for Charlie - I think you do.

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Or sword. One or the other.

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I can do better than that. Well, sort of better than that.

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Yeah, you know what's coming, you naughty girl!

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-Is it coming?

-It's coming, son.

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Where is it? Who's got it? Here it is!

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APPLAUSE

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Nice.

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Wow! Oh, wow!

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I really did not expect that.

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-That's proper.

-Oh, it's proper!

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-Yeah.

-Charlie Hunnam, old boy.

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Ah, thank you, old girl.

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APPLAUSE

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I'm not sure how this is going to work in Customs when I try to go

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-home tomorrow, but there you go.

-You could always give it back to me!

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That's a proper bit of kit. Would you like to touch Excalibur?

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I'd LOVE to hold your sword.

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LAUGHTER

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That's good, yeah. I'll let you deal with it.

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-There you go.

-Wow. I'm really glad I came tonight.

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I got a gin and tonic and a sword.

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-Lovely.

-We'll put that there, in case anyone gets out of line.

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Beautiful.

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What a beautiful moment.

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-That was wonderful.

-Also, you didn't do it like a joke version of it.

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-That is the sword.

-No, that is it.

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That took these little Japanese geezers

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six months to cobble that together,

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and they worked tirelessly day and night.

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It's a big deal. I'm telling you it cost the price of a small aeroplane.

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-Shall we have a little look.

-Yes, get it out.

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It's proper. You could actually challenge someone to a duel

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-with this.

-Can I touch it?

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Anyone else happen to have a sword on them?

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I'll just stroke the tip.

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LAUGHTER

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- What? Pack it in! Unbelievable. - You've corrupted it.

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-Have you played with it?

-I have, I played with it previously.

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-He had a go first.

-Graham and I go way back.

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Do you still have the lava lamp that you bought.

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You know, I'm afraid I don't.

0:18:060:18:08

Oh.

0:18:080:18:10

-These two have history.

-That was anti-climactic.

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You know what - I might.

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That might be in the attic.

0:18:150:18:17

-It might be in the attic.

-That's only marginally better.

0:18:170:18:20

-Do you want it back?

-No, but I was so pleased at the time.

0:18:200:18:25

You were the first really famous person I met. Right after we did

0:18:250:18:29

Queer As Folk, there was a charity auction and you bid on

0:18:290:18:33

the lava lamp from Nathan Maloney's bedroom, and paid £1,000 for it.

0:18:330:18:38

-Did I pay that much?!

-Yeah, you did, mate!

-I blame wine.

0:18:380:18:42

That's coming out of the attic tomorrow!

0:18:440:18:46

It's going back on eBay.

0:18:470:18:49

Keep talking about it, Charlie!

0:18:500:18:52

A little YouTube clip,

0:18:540:18:56

a picture of the lamp.

0:18:560:18:58

No, I think I don't have it.

0:19:010:19:02

LAUGHTER

0:19:020:19:03

Billie Piper is back on stage with her Olivier Award-winning

0:19:050:19:10

performance in Yerma at the Young Vic.

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It opens July 26th.

0:19:130:19:16

So you should be really good by then.

0:19:160:19:18

I mean, REALLY.

0:19:180:19:20

I'll be good by then, I promise.

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Then till the end of August. And I do think this is a great thing that

0:19:220:19:26

they're doing now. It's going to be one of those plays that's shown

0:19:260:19:29

-in cinemas.

-NT Live.

-On August 31st.

0:19:290:19:33

Yerma, I don't know this play - tell us about the play.

0:19:330:19:37

Well, there's the original and then there's our adaptation.

0:19:370:19:41

But it's about a woman who finds it incredibly hard to conceive a child.

0:19:410:19:48

And in the end, finds it impossible,

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and it's about how it destroys her life, her marriage, her home,

0:19:510:19:56

everything.

0:19:560:19:58

So it's upbeat!

0:19:580:20:00

The staging sounds extraordinary.

0:20:010:20:03

You're all inside a glass box.

0:20:030:20:05

We're all inside... yeah, this glass box.

0:20:050:20:08

So you really have no sort of relationship with the audience.

0:20:080:20:11

It's all contained. You're there with your actors.

0:20:110:20:14

And it feels great, actually.

0:20:140:20:16

What sounds exciting, hearing you talk about these blackouts.

0:20:160:20:20

-They do these blackouts.

-Yeah, there's like a tandem show going on.

0:20:200:20:24

In the blackouts, they move the set.

0:20:240:20:27

We undress and put something else on

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and then they give us our props and we go.

0:20:290:20:31

And we're doing it in, like, 15 seconds.

0:20:310:20:34

So there's loads of guys in those blackouts in night-vision goggles

0:20:340:20:39

just leading us around the set.

0:20:390:20:41

And your immediate reaction is to just punch them.

0:20:410:20:45

It's really threatening.

0:20:460:20:48

It feels very unnatural.

0:20:480:20:50

But then you get used to it and it's a good laugh.

0:20:500:20:52

For the audience it must be amazing.

0:20:520:20:54

The lights come on and you're all in different places

0:20:540:20:57

-and different clothes.

-And you just hope you have the right prop.

0:20:570:21:00

The baby comes on in darkness - a real baby.

0:21:020:21:05

-There's a real baby in it?

-A real baby, yeah.

0:21:050:21:07

-That seems a mistake.

-Yeah.

0:21:070:21:09

The mother's in the wings, heart in her throat.

0:21:110:21:14

It's fine, it goes well.

0:21:140:21:16

How many babies are there?

0:21:160:21:17

Actually, like three or four babies.

0:21:170:21:20

Three or four, that's what you want to hear - "Ah, three or four."

0:21:200:21:24

-Who counted them in?

-Who's counting?

0:21:240:21:27

-Do you have a favourite?

-Yeah.

0:21:270:21:31

The one that cooperates the most.

0:21:320:21:35

It's terrible to say, but this baby is something else.

0:21:350:21:40

It's like he's been here five times before.

0:21:400:21:43

And he really works the audience.

0:21:430:21:45

He sort of gets - and I...

0:21:450:21:48

-LAUGHTER

-He really does. So he comes out...

0:21:480:21:50

Is it a small man?

0:21:500:21:51

He has the wisdom of a small man

0:21:540:21:56

and he comes out and the lights go on and he coos

0:21:560:21:59

and it's this sort of, without giving it away,

0:21:590:22:03

sort of dream sequence or whatever you want it to be, I suppose,

0:22:030:22:06

but it's supposed to look like a loving and fertile environment.

0:22:060:22:10

And so it really helps when the baby's really digging me...

0:22:100:22:14

And he goes with it, most of the nights.

0:22:140:22:18

Then I take him to the glass and he knocks on the glass.

0:22:180:22:22

Like a little knock, and the audience go...

0:22:220:22:25

You have to move around with him. He's just a joy.

0:22:250:22:28

And he was at the wrap party.

0:22:280:22:30

LAUGHTER

0:22:300:22:32

Some of us, we were offering to babysit.

0:22:340:22:36

Ally McBeal, that dancing baby!

0:22:360:22:39

Yeah, Brendon, who plays my husband, has had play dates with him since.

0:22:390:22:46

We were offering to babysit for this child.

0:22:480:22:50

-He's just amazing.

-And back in the Smash Hits days,

0:22:500:22:55

did you and Charlie know each other, Billie?

0:22:550:22:59

-No.

-That was kind of Queer As Folk days and you were a big pop star.

0:22:590:23:04

You'd have thought you would have been at the same showbiz bashes.

0:23:040:23:08

I can't remember you.

0:23:080:23:10

-The only famous person...

-Wow, that's cold.

0:23:100:23:14

No, I know who you are now, of course.

0:23:140:23:17

And I used to watch you in Queer As Folk all the time,

0:23:170:23:19

and Russell T Davies wrote it.

0:23:190:23:22

But I can't remember anything from those early '90s.

0:23:220:23:25

Great, wonderful, thanks for that.

0:23:250:23:26

-Brilliant.

-There's more.

0:23:260:23:28

I'm sure.

0:23:280:23:30

In my head, I thought Queer As Folk was your big break,

0:23:300:23:33

but in fact it was before that, wasn't it?

0:23:330:23:36

Oh, it was indeed.

0:23:360:23:38

The old illustrious Byker Grove days.

0:23:380:23:40

Byker Grove! Were you ever in Byker Grove?

0:23:400:23:43

No, I wasn't. But I LOVED it.

0:23:430:23:45

-I was a huge Byker Grove fan.

-Great show.

0:23:450:23:48

You weren't an actor. You just showed up in Byker Grove?

0:23:480:23:51

Yeah, pretty much.

0:23:510:23:53

I had the aspiration to be an actor.

0:23:530:23:55

I was at film school at that point.

0:23:550:23:58

But I was discovered in a shoe shop on Northumbria Street,

0:23:580:24:02

a JD Sports, on Christmas Eve.

0:24:020:24:04

I had a foolproof strategy with Christmas shopping.

0:24:040:24:07

I would go to the pub on Christmas Eve at 12, and at 4pm,

0:24:070:24:12

one hour before the shops shut, I would start my Christmas shopping.

0:24:120:24:15

And I had the 60-minute frenzied shop.

0:24:150:24:17

-This is good.

-I was in JD Sports trying on some trainers

0:24:170:24:22

for my brother, having a bit a dance around -

0:24:220:24:25

drunk, obviously - as you can see.

0:24:250:24:27

And there was a lady staring at me.

0:24:270:24:30

So I blew her a kiss and gave her a little wink.

0:24:300:24:32

And it turned out she was production manager of Byker Grove.

0:24:320:24:35

She said, "I think you're quite lovely."

0:24:350:24:37

I said, "I do too."

0:24:370:24:38

She invited me in. And I did an audition and they gave me a part,

0:24:400:24:44

which I haven't seen since I did it, which is 20 years ago.

0:24:440:24:46

Now I think you're probably going to humiliate me.

0:24:460:24:49

I think you're right! You are excellent as King Arthur.

0:24:490:24:53

Probably not so great in Byker Grove!

0:24:530:24:56

I think you'll agree that it was all here, it was all here,

0:24:560:25:00

in slightly raw form.

0:25:000:25:01

So, this is... It's a very traumatic scene.

0:25:010:25:04

You didn't shoot Ant out of Ant and Dec with a paintball gun?

0:25:040:25:07

- That's not you. - No, that wasn't me, no!

0:25:070:25:09

-That was harrowing, that.

-They were long gone, long gone!

0:25:090:25:12

This is... You're doing...

0:25:120:25:14

"I'm blind, Dec!" Horrible - ruined me childhood, that.

0:25:140:25:19

"I can't see a bloody thing, man!"

0:25:190:25:22

Awful! Awful!

0:25:220:25:23

Children's telly, that was.

0:25:230:25:25

When they rolled in stinging nettles to get out of school - I did that!

0:25:250:25:30

I copied that!

0:25:300:25:31

-That was awful, terrible outcome!

-Well, this is a strange...

0:25:310:25:34

I think it's a strangely adult storyline for Byker Grove.

0:25:340:25:38

You play a model,

0:25:380:25:40

and I think you're initiating a younger boy into the ways of

0:25:400:25:44

-being a model.

-Oh, my God.

0:25:440:25:45

Look right now.

0:25:470:25:49

Fantastic. Right...

0:25:490:25:52

Now, straight ahead.

0:25:530:25:54

Smile!

0:25:540:25:56

Well done, lads.

0:25:560:25:58

-What's that?

-Cheese and scallion.

0:25:580:26:01

-Do you want one?

-There's a finger buffet upstairs, man.

0:26:010:26:04

Oh, right. Well, it's just...

0:26:040:26:06

You know, my girlfriend made them for us.

0:26:060:26:09

It's all laid on in this game -

0:26:090:26:10

all we have to do is look good and cash the cheques.

0:26:100:26:13

Don't worry, mate, I'll soon sort you out!

0:26:130:26:15

Oh, no! You sue the sandwich!

0:26:180:26:20

Oh!

0:26:220:26:23

-Wow!

-Wow!

0:26:260:26:27

Are you in awe? Don't be nervous now, I'm still the same old Charlie!

0:26:280:26:33

I've never heard a finger buffet sound so rude!

0:26:340:26:37

"There's a finger buffet upstairs!"

0:26:370:26:40

-Oh, boy!

-What the hell is going on upstairs?!

0:26:400:26:43

Would you have cast him, off that?

0:26:450:26:47

I have to tell you, I only wish

0:26:470:26:48

I could have derived such a performance, Charlie.

0:26:480:26:52

Had I known the talent was there!

0:26:520:26:54

You were sexy when you were young, Charlie!

0:26:560:26:58

You've got to have confidence to work a ponytail like that!

0:26:580:27:01

Yeah, you do!

0:27:010:27:04

Now, Jason Manford - Jason Manford is back on the road on tour.

0:27:040:27:08

The new tour is called Muddle Class.

0:27:080:27:10

-Yes.

-And Muddle Class, it's a good...

0:27:100:27:12

-Does it mean what I think it means?

-Yeah, it's a phrase that I came up

0:27:120:27:16

with to describe a lot of things,

0:27:160:27:17

muddling along and getting through those things,

0:27:170:27:20

but it sort of describes me,

0:27:200:27:22

I'm from a working-class background, you know...

0:27:220:27:25

But then, my kids are sort of a bit middle-class.

0:27:250:27:28

So, we're in this muddle space, where I don't know where I am,

0:27:280:27:31

trying to keep your roots but at the same time aspire for something else

0:27:310:27:34

for them. And they're always correcting me.

0:27:340:27:37

It's "ga-rahge", Daddy.

0:27:370:27:39

It's "ga-ridge" - get to bed!

0:27:390:27:42

And so, yeah, came up with that.

0:27:440:27:45

And I discussed it with my brother,

0:27:450:27:47

who was a plumber at the time and a friend of mine, who is a teacher.

0:27:470:27:50

And there's quite a lot of people seem to be in this middle place,

0:27:500:27:54

that didn't really have a name.

0:27:540:27:56

You couldn't say, "I'm middle class," because I'm definitely not.

0:27:560:27:59

But it's been fun, because you find yourself doing muddle-class things,

0:27:590:28:03

and you'll all do it at some point.

0:28:030:28:05

Often it comes with food, like,

0:28:050:28:07

I'll have a pork pie and a bit of quinoa on the side.

0:28:070:28:10

You know. You'll drink champagne, you know,

0:28:120:28:15

-but it's in a mug that you won at the bingo.

-Yeah!

0:28:150:28:18

My favourite was actually my brother, when I mentioned it to him,

0:28:190:28:23

he said, "Oh, I've done that!" When he signed on last,

0:28:230:28:26

all he had was a fountain pen.

0:28:260:28:28

So, you know, there's a lot of fun to be had with it.

0:28:310:28:35

But also, I suppose, with your kids, you could spoil them,

0:28:350:28:39

but you have to try and be strict with them?

0:28:390:28:42

Yeah, it's tough, like, because, you know, as you're doing all right,

0:28:420:28:46

you want to give them the life that you didn't have.

0:28:460:28:49

But you have to be strict, because you don't want to turn them into

0:28:490:28:52

children that you hated when you were a child.

0:28:520:28:54

-Mmm.

-Yeah.

-You know what I mean? You don't want them to be those kids.

0:28:540:28:57

So, it's tough. I remember taking my daughter to get new school shoes.

0:28:570:29:01

I took all five... I don't know if you've done this, Guy,

0:29:010:29:03

when you have taken all of them out just by yourself, like an idiot.

0:29:030:29:06

We've gone to buy new school shoes,

0:29:070:29:09

and it's a dead busy day in the department store,

0:29:090:29:12

and most of them have been fine,

0:29:120:29:14

and then just one daughter is just kicking off, going for it.

0:29:140:29:17

You've not got the skills that your parents had, because, you know,

0:29:170:29:20

laws have changed...

0:29:200:29:22

LAUGHTER AND APPLAUSE

0:29:230:29:26

And... So, you've got to like find other ways,

0:29:280:29:31

you've got to talk to them like a children's TV presenter,

0:29:310:29:34

haven't you? "What seems to be the problem?"

0:29:340:29:37

You get a bit closer - "When you get home, you are dead!"

0:29:370:29:39

Do it so nobody sees you!

0:29:390:29:41

So, she was being a nightmare and I just couldn't wrangle her,

0:29:410:29:45

I just couldn't work it out. And what happens is, the other thing,

0:29:450:29:49

when you've got many children,

0:29:490:29:50

is that your other children start being good, really good,

0:29:500:29:53

but not good cos they want to be good -

0:29:530:29:55

they want to be good to highlight how bad the bad one is being.

0:29:550:29:58

"We're being good, aren't we, Daddy?"

0:29:590:30:01

"Yeah, but it's not coming from a good place."

0:30:010:30:03

And then in the end, I had to do that thing that parents do

0:30:040:30:07

sometimes, where you go overboard with the punishment.

0:30:070:30:09

So, when they're not eating their dinner.

0:30:090:30:11

"Right, then, you'll never eat again!"

0:30:110:30:13

"Aw! Can't back that up!"

0:30:150:30:17

And I did it to my daughter, she was like, "I want these..."

0:30:170:30:19

I said, "Right, then, you'll have NO shoes!"

0:30:190:30:22

So, I got shoes for the other kids, and so,

0:30:260:30:28

I've got these four pairs of shoes and none for her.

0:30:280:30:31

Very rare that I stand by a punishment.

0:30:330:30:36

Even when I send them upstairs,

0:30:360:30:37

they're halfway down before they've got there.

0:30:370:30:39

So, I'm in this queue and my daughter's gone from being naughty

0:30:390:30:44

to turning the waterworks on.

0:30:440:30:46

And of course, it's a new crowd around her.

0:30:460:30:49

So these people just think she's like Cinderella,

0:30:490:30:52

not getting any shoes. "No shoes for you!"

0:30:520:30:55

And she goes...

0:30:550:30:56

And then she said the worst thing, and, as parents, you'll feel this.

0:30:560:31:00

It's the worst thing that anyone can say to you, your child.

0:31:000:31:03

She said, "Daddy." And I went, "What?"

0:31:030:31:05

She said...

0:31:050:31:07

There's all these people looking. She just went, "Daddy...

0:31:070:31:11

"Why do you make the rest of the world laugh, but you make me cry?"

0:31:110:31:15

"Oh, you got me good!"

0:31:200:31:23

She got three pairs of shoes that day!

0:31:230:31:25

Jason Manford, you're also, you're on the telly.

0:31:290:31:32

-Yes.

-Bigheads on Sunday night, ITV.

0:31:320:31:36

-That's me!

-This show, honestly, this show is a funny show.

0:31:360:31:40

Everyone enjoyed it, apart from Billie Piper.

0:31:400:31:43

-Oh, no. Why?

-Well, I thought

0:31:430:31:45

you didn't like things like those things?

0:31:450:31:48

Oh, the mascots, yeah.

0:31:480:31:50

-Have you got a phobia?

-Yeah.

0:31:500:31:52

I inherited this fear of mascots.

0:31:520:31:55

Well, our show will not help that.

0:31:550:31:58

Absolutely terrifying!

0:31:580:31:59

I mean, there's not a lot of explaining to do, but do explain.

0:31:590:32:02

As I said, episode one, I said,

0:32:020:32:04

this is the show where contestants run around for money,

0:32:040:32:07

wearing massive celebrity heads.

0:32:070:32:10

It can't all be Broadchurch!

0:32:100:32:12

I mean, you've got to have light and shade, haven't you?

0:32:120:32:14

It certainly doesn't work on more than one level.

0:32:140:32:18

-But it's...

-What are they doing?

0:32:180:32:19

Well, it's... Have you seen, like, remember Gladiators,

0:32:190:32:22

-Ninja Warrior, stuff like that?

-Yeah.

-So they're doing...

0:32:220:32:24

-Assault courses.

-Assault courses, yeah, but wearing these heads

0:32:240:32:27

that they can only really see out of this bit.

0:32:270:32:29

It's as funny as it's simple.

0:32:290:32:32

Here's a clip of Bigheads.

0:32:320:32:35

Camilla has got...!

0:32:350:32:37

-Oh!

-Camilla, on your feet!

0:32:370:32:40

There's just one more space left through those doors!

0:32:430:32:45

-High-five!

-Who will join Victoria and Russell?!

0:32:450:32:47

Oh, no!

0:32:510:32:52

He's catching his breath there.

0:32:550:32:56

That's not even the slippy bit!

0:32:570:32:59

-Come on!

-You're from Stockport, come on! Get up there!

0:32:590:33:05

Both trying to get their breath back.

0:33:050:33:07

Charles makes another dash...

0:33:090:33:11

Oh!

0:33:140:33:16

APPLAUSE

0:33:180:33:20

-So funny.

-That's so funny!

0:33:200:33:22

-I'm sorry, television!

-That is funny! Listen, it's time for music.

0:33:250:33:30

This lady is one of Ireland's most-celebrated artists,

0:33:300:33:32

and now she's back with a new groove,

0:33:320:33:34

performing Should've Been You, it is Imelda May!

0:33:340:33:38

# I could tell you all the things I do for you

0:33:440:33:47

# But it's no surprise when you just roll your eyes

0:33:470:33:51

# And say here we go again

0:33:510:33:53

# She's going to moan again

0:33:550:33:58

# I should spare you love just a thing or two

0:33:580:34:02

# But you don't disguise it when I'm just white noise

0:34:020:34:05

# And it's done before it begins

0:34:050:34:09

# Cos your temper's getting thin

0:34:090:34:12

# But there's just one thing I want to know

0:34:120:34:17

# Just one little thing before I go

0:34:170:34:21

# Before I go

0:34:230:34:27

# It's who takes care of me?

0:34:270:34:32

# Tell me, who takes care of me?

0:34:340:34:40

# Should've been you

0:34:410:34:43

# Oh-oh!

0:34:430:34:48

# Should've been you

0:34:480:34:50

# Do you realise?

0:34:560:34:58

# No, you never will

0:34:580:35:00

# Cos your head's held high

0:35:000:35:02

# And you've got your pride

0:35:020:35:03

# I got a little of mine still

0:35:030:35:07

# Yeah, the bit you couldn't kill

0:35:070:35:09

# I'll never blame you and I always will

0:35:110:35:14

# I can't explain it but it hurts like hell

0:35:140:35:18

# And I'm feeling so alone

0:35:180:35:20

# Yeah, I'm lonely to the bone

0:35:200:35:24

# But there's just one thing that I want to know

0:35:250:35:29

# Just one little thing before I go

0:35:290:35:33

# Before I go

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# It's who takes care of me?

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# Tell me, who takes care of me?

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# Should've been you

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# Oh-oh!

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# Should've been you

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# Oh-oh!

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# And I'm angry

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# And I'm sad

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# I'm the best thing

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# That you ever had

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# All I wanted

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# Was your touch

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# But you told me

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# What I wanted was just too much

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# Oh, who takes care of me?

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# Tell me, who takes care of me?

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# Should've been you

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# Oh-oh

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# Should've been you

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# Should've been you

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# Should've been you. #

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APPLAUSE AND CHEERING

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Imelda May, everybody!

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Beautiful job, come on over!

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Beautiful! Beautiful! Thank you so much! Imelda May!

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Come and join us, do!

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That's Jason, Billie, Guy, Charlie, marvellous!

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Thank you so much for that, that sounded great.

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And fabulous to have that big band and everything.

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Yes. Live band.

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Live. And that is off the new album, Life Love Flesh Blood.

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-Which is out now, isn't it?

-It is, it's out now.

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-It's out a week or so now.

-Yeah. It's in the actual shops!

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And I was listening to it on the radio, that sound,

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it's almost like a kind of Roy Orbison sound, that song.

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Well, T Bone Burnett produced it,

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and he produced a lot of Roy Orbison,

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-so maybe you're right!

-Well, there you go! It's like I'm not stupid!

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It's almost as if...! And we should say

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that the reason you've got a big band is because

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you are on tour right now.

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Right in the middle of it, yeah.

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We cancelled a gig tonight to come to see you.

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-Oh, no, you didn't!

-And lots of people are very cross with you.

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-Cos that's my fault!

-No, they're cross with me.

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But I explained to them, and once I said your name,

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-they all were very happy.

-Yeah, yeah, yeah!

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Because you probably saw it, the tour bus is parked outside.

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-Yeah.

-The tour is around here,

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Ireland, then it's going to America,

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but will it be going to Paris at all?

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Yes, we will be going to Paris.

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Because the May family have been to Paris, haven't you?

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-I know where you're going with this.

-I love this story, this is so Irish.

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Well, I think... I'm actually thinking,

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because I've so many crazy stories of my family,

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that I might write a book and possibly,

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if you ever want to turn it into a movie,

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I think this is a really good opening scene.

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So, yes, my dad, my parents used to bring us travelling when...

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Nobody went travelling that I knew, and they used to just pack...

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Should I sit back, sorry, am I blocking...?

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-No, I'm looking at YOU!

-You're OK?

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And the big gang of us, anyway, we went,

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all seven of us in the little Rover...

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There's travelling and there's travelling.

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Yeah, we...

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Yeah, not like Snatch.

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I think you just mean actually travelling.

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We camped all over the world.

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My parents, we had this giant big orange tent that slept seven of us.

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My mam had a little stove,

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my dad never got the tent up the way it was shaped on the box.

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And I remember, we woke up to...

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massive, erm, just,

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it was crazy and noisy and my dad was getting dragged out by the

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gendarmes, by the police.

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And there was whistles going, and my mam was saying,

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"Get your hands off him!"

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And we were starting to cry, my mam had her little stove out,

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doing breakfast, and my dad was saying,

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"Yous are very uptight altogether!"

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And he was dragging them out.

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And apparently, you're not allowed to camp

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underneath the Eiffel Tower.

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APPLAUSE

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-Frying an egg!

-Literally, yes, frying an egg, the kettle was on,

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we were all sitting...

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She brought dressing gowns and slippers,

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we were all sitting... "This is a great view!"

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And he was getting dragged off!

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-Thank you very much for that, Imelda May.

-Thank you very much.

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Terrific! Imelda May, everybody.

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That's nearly it. But before we go, just time for

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a visit to the Big Red Chair.

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-Who's there?

-Hiya.

-Hi - what's your name?

-Matt.

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-Matt. And where are you from?

-I'm from Cambridgeshire.

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Cambridgeshire. OK. Do you live here or up in Cambridgeshire?

0:41:110:41:14

No, just up for the day visiting. Well, for this, yeah.

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Up for the day! The excitement!

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-Off you go with your story.

-Well,

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a few years ago we went on a holiday with a couple of friends to Crete.

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Extremely hot. On the first day,

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I forgot to take my sun cream to the beach.

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So my "mate" had this huge budget cheap family-sized packet

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of sun cream. So I asked him, could I borrow it?

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And he told me no, because he would require it for the rest

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of the holiday. So, I spent the whole day in the shade.

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So that evening in the apartment,

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his budget sun cream was on the bathroom cabinet,

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so I went to the kitchen,

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took a fork, took the little plastic bung out, and I peed in it.

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For revenge. So, I put the bung back in,

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put it back on the shelf and the rest of the holiday,

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there he was slathering his sun cream in,

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doing this all week long.

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And I told everyone at the pub when I got home,

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and everyone said what a lovely golden tan he'd got!

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That's a fun story!

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Yeah, you walk! Go on, go on, go on!

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He turned it round at the end there.

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Let's have one more. One more, here we go.

0:42:110:42:14

-Hello.

-Hiya.

-Hi, what's your name?

-My name's Sebastian.

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Sebastian. And where are you from?

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-I'm from Newcastle.

-Newcastle, OK.

0:42:190:42:21

Do you live there or here?

0:42:210:42:22

-I live in Newcastle, yeah.

-OK, off you go with the story, Sebastien.

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Well, many moons ago... I actually went to school in Newcastle,

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and there was a disco coming up.

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There was a really popular girl at school,

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usual type of scenario,

0:42:370:42:39

all the guys after her.

0:42:390:42:41

I sort of waited till the last moment, last couple of days,

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and asked a girl, this popular girl, a question,

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if she'd like to go with me. She said yes.

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This was literally I think the day before the disco.

0:42:510:42:54

Lo and behold, it turns out she was actually going to go with somebody

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else. Erm...

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And that other person was actually Charlie.

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Sebastian Lippiatt!

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That's the one, man!

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You dirty bastard!

0:43:050:43:08

I didn't know, I...!

0:43:080:43:11

I was just thinking... "How could this have happened to two people?!"

0:43:110:43:15

-Rachel Gould!

-The very same, yes, you know who it is.

0:43:170:43:21

Wow!

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-You look older than me!

-You know, at the time...

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We're the same age?!

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And did you end up marrying Rachel Gould?

0:43:310:43:33

-No, not yet, no.

-Oh, OK.

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-There's still time!

-You don't happen to have a sword with you, do you?

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You could have revenge, if you want to.

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Do you want to...?

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There you go!

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All those years!

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That was good! I wondered when you'd twig!

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If you'd like to join us on the show and have a go in the Red Chair,

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you can contact us via the website at this very address...

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That is it for tonight.

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Please say a huge thank you to my guests Imelda May...!

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APPLAUSE AND CHEERING

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Jason Manford! APPLAUSE AND CHEERING

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Billie Piper! APPLAUSE AND CHEERING

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Guy Ritchie! APPLAUSE AND CHEERING

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And Charlie Hunnam! APPLAUSE AND CHEERING

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Join me next week, with musical guest Sheryl Crow,

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actor Alan Cumming, singing star Keith Urban

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and Oscar-winner Nicole Kidman.

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I'll see you then, goodnight, everyone, bye!

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APPLAUSE AND CHEERING

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