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-Telly.

-That magic box in the corner.

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It gives us access to a million different worlds,

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all from the comfort of our sofa.

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'In this series I'm going to journey through the fantastic

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'world of TV with some of our favourite celebrities.

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'They've chosen the precious TV moments that shed light...'

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Love this!

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'She's beaten the panel.'

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Look at that!

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'..on the stories of their lives.'

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Go on, Champion! Go on, Champion.

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You're like, "Oh! Argh!"

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'Some are funny...'

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Oh, quite amazing, unbelievable!

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No, no, no!

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'..some are surprising.'

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Paddington Bear.

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'Some are inspiring...'

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That's what kids should be doing now.

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Lay a ten-pence piece on a table with a bit of sticky tape.

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Look at that! Stonking!

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'..and many...'

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-Some turtles capsize...

-'..are deeply moving.'

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I knew that we were in the presence of history.

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I'm crying.

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I broke down in tears at that.

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'So come watch with us as we hand-pick the vintage telly that

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'helped turn our much-loved stars into the people they are today.'

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Welcome to The TV That Made Me.

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My guest today is Birmingham's golden boy.

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A radio and TV presenter as well as an award-winning writer and actor.

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Adil Ray is best known as the loudmouthed Citizen Khan.

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What?! Do you know who I am?

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Hello! Mr Khan!

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'The TV that made him includes a truly bonkers sitcom...'

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Give us an easy one, Bambi!

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'..a courtroom drama...'

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I've paid for what I've done.

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'..and a family that sticks together.'

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We thank thee, oh Lord...

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LAUGHTER

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It can only be the one and only Adil Ray.

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I think you should have been a pop star.

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-IN AMERICAN ACCENT:

-Ladies and gentleman, presenting Adil Ray.

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-Yeah, who knows, there's still time.

-Yeah, plenty of time.

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-Could still be a pop star.

-Because you ARE very young.

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Well, exactly! Only 19, yeah.

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I'm saying nothing.

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So, today is a celebration,

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-a collection of TV shows that you have chosen.

-I know, it's great.

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Shall we go back now to the early, early, early, early...

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Such a long time ago.

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This was what it was like growing up for the lovely Adil Ray.

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'Adil Ray was born in Birmingham on 29th of April, 1974.

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'The youngest of two boys,

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'he shared his home with his dad, Abdul, a bus driver,

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'and his mum, Nargus, who worked at the Immigration Appeals Department,

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'assisting the city's ever-growing immigrant community.'

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Let's talk about your house. What was it like?

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We lived in a semidetched in a place called Yardley in Birmingham.

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It was an interesting time for us

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because we were like the only Asian family living in this very white area, you know.

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It was tough at the beginning, I remember.

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I think when we left the house 20 years later, all the neighbours were in tears, you know.

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It was great because we were very close to our neighbours.

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I like that! They're your neighbours!

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We were very close to our neighbours, yes!

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Some TV gems hit our screens in 1984 when Adil was just ten,

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including Ever Decreasing Circles,

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with Richard Briers as neighbourhood busybody Martin Bryce.

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Fresh from Not The Nine O'Clock News,

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Mel Smith and Griff Rhys Jones launched their seminal sketch show,

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Alas Smith and Jones.

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And Fridays would never be the same again

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as the fandabidozi Crackerjack closed its doors for the last time.

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So what was your lounge? I'm thinking of the television room where you used to watch.

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Yes, I mean in our house everything was governed by the TV.

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All the chairs faced the TV.

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7:00pm or 7:30pm in the evening, mum would get us our food and we would just...

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On our laps in front of the telly.

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And I remember my chair... For some reason, I got the short straw.

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Everyone else was that we facing and my chair was a little bit...

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But I was kind of a bit like this. So I was like that watching telly.

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This is good, isn't it? This is great! I love this!

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My mum and dad were mad for sitcoms on telly.

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They just absolutely loved it.

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I remember watching sitcoms with my family and going,

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"This is one of those few moments in this mad house,

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"at times, that we are,

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"that we sit down together and enjoy something together."

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Watching anything from Only Fools And Horses, Cheers,

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to even slightly mediocre sitcoms from Never The Twain with Windsor Davies.

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You know, great times.

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We have got a classic Ray family sitcom here. This is Bread.

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We thank Thee, oh Lord...

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..for leading us safely through the night

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and for the food we are about to bolt.

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It's great. It's brilliant. It's Carla Lane, isn't it? She is legendary.

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Tremendous actors. Fantastic. However, it depresses me a little bit.

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-Why?

-Because it came on on a Sunday and what does that mean?

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-School.

-School the next day.

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Do you know what I mean? It was like, I love this, but any minute now,

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Mum's going to be like, "Get to bed and you haven't done your homework."

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You know, sort of... So, it was a bit of a weird one, this.

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Loved it but reminded me of a Sunday.

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Carla Lane first created a family called Boswell

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for Series 5 of the Liver Birds in the '70s.

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A decade later,

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she reinvented them as the ever-resourceful Boswells in Bread,

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with Jean Boht heading up the crafty clan as Mum, Nellie.

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Left me some, have you?

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-Here she is!

-Hey.

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HE DOES AN IMPRESSION OF AVELINE AND LAUGHS

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-What do you want a bikini for?

-I'm modelling, aren't I?

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-Look at that. What she's wearing.

-Brilliant.

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The costume department had loads of fun on this.

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-All right, I'll miss me bus.

-Have you seen her run for the bus?

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Her dress comes up around her chin and by the time she gets on the bus,

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she is all knickers and earrings.

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-I mean, every one was a character.

-Well, that was it.

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-They could all have their own sitcom.

-Exactly.

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That was the great thing about it, such strong characters.

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Great narrative as well.

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I think, if I'm right, most sitcoms at the time were self-contained,

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so you could watch an episode and you just followed one story

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and next week, you would start up again.

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Whereas this, I think it worked with cliff-hangers, it was almost

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a drama in a way so you had to watch the next episode to find out.

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So as well as being funny, it told a great story.

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Well, it was kind of Thatcher's Britain at the time, wasn't it?

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And this sort of Liverpool family. That thing about...

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Before they sat for dinner, wouldn't they all come in and give

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Nellie the money they had earned and she would put it in the pot.

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Had they earned it? Let's be honest!

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Yeah, one or two of them, probably not!

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Each episode saw the family fight to make a bob or two,

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whether from slightly dodgy deals, the benefit system or even work.

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Don't talk about it, Jack, just check it, buy and sell it,

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put the money in the pot and shut your gob.

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And Joey with his leather pants.

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Oh, yeah, everyone's heart-throb was Joey.

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-Exactly. Did you have some of those leather pants?

-No, I didn't.

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-No, no.

-You only picked up the leather pants recently?

-From him.

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It was at a party, I don't want to go into it.

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I think, looking back at Bread now, it has probably influenced what I do

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now because it was a Catholic family. A devout Catholic family but so much

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humour involved in that community within the family, I think in

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a way, it has probably inspired what I wanted to do with Citizen Khan.

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We are going to move on to a thing we like to call Just Because.

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You used to watch it, just because.

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OK.

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GRANGE HILL THEME TUNE

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-Amazing.

-Another classic.

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Where is the bit, the sausage on the fork, where is it?

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Oh, it's coming up, it's coming up.

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Great theme tune as well.

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THEY SING THE THEME TUNE

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Here we go. There you go, look at that.

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I used to have a radio show

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and I would play this theme tune just for a laugh.

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-I just loved it.

-Yeah.

-I just absolutely loved it.

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THEY SING THE THEME TUNE

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It is almost quite Indian, that last bit.

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THEY SING THE THEME TUNE Maybe that's why I liked it.

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-Come on, then.

-Just a minute.

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-Tucker Jenkins.

-Tucker.

-Look at him.

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-..and already you look a mess.

-I don't like wearing a tie.

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-Can't help that.

-Why do I have to wear one?

-Because you do.

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They did touch on some really serious subjects.

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-Course they did, yeah.

-Talked about drugs.

-The whole Zammo...

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Underage sex, you know, things like that.

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The Zammo thing and the Just Say No was great,

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but it was brilliant. But I always remembered little stories like...

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Do you remember Roland? He was bullied a lot

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-and there was this young black girl at the school...

-He was quite large?

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Yeah, he was quite large and she was lovely,

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but she'd just be like, "Roland, Roland,

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"Why don't you talk to me, Roland?"

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Oh, it was brilliant.

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Such great characters and it really drew you in, and I think...

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Phil Redmond, it's no wonder he went on to do things like Brookside,

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absolutely brilliant storytelling.

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For 30 years, Grange Hill was the most famous school on TV.

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Its most controversial storyline came in 1986 with class clown

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Zammo's heroin addiction.

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It led to the top ten single Just Say No,

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which proved they were much better actors than singers.

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MUSIC: Just Say No by the cast of Grange Hill

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# Just say no. #

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Again, it's that show that you own as a kid, it is one of those...

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It is meant for us, no-one else, parents can't watch this,

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this is for us, this is our world.

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You would get home from school and you would wait for Grange Hill.

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I was always disappointed that it always felt really short.

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I don't know why, I don't know whether it was 30 minutes, whether it was only 20...

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And the fact...I think it was only on once a week.

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-Was it only on once a week, yeah.

-"Another week!"

-Yeah.

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Now then, shall I come along to school with you?

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Enrolling at Grange Hill could lead to a glistening TV career as it

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did for Todd Carty, who graduated to become Mark Fowler in EastEnders.

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Michelle Gayle played Fiona Wilson,

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and she too joined EastEnders as Hattie.

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And Amanda Mealing, who played Tracey Edwards,

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became Casualty's headstrong clinical lead Connie.

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Now, some of the teachers in Grange Hill had bizarre nicknames,

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-would you agree?

-Yes, if I can remember any of them.

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I think you know what is coming,

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-cos that is exactly what we are going to do.

-Oh, really?

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Some of the names here are real and some of them are not.

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Just answer true or false. Mr Stuart "Hoppy" Hopwood. True or false?

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That is true, he was one of the earlier ones, Hopwood.

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-The earlier days.

-You're an expert on Grange Hill.

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-Mr Geoff "Bullet" Baxter.

-Ah, Geoff Baxter, the Bullet.

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I know this because Michael Cronin who played him...

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And this is sort of a bit of a homage,

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Michael Cronin was a guest on Citizen Khan.

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He played the mother-in-law's boyfriend who turned out to be

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-gay in Series

-2. So, that is how much you love Grange Hill.

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-You were getting in actors...

-That is how much... That is what I do for people.

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But it was a real buzz working on something. "Oh, my God, that's Mr Baxter."

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"Where's your gym kit?"

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-So was he The Bullet?

-He was The Bullet.

-Course he was.

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Mr Keith "Crazy" Paving.

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-Crazy paving.

-True or false?

-I think that is false.

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-Is it?

-Hooray.

-OK.

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Mrs Bridget "The Midget" McCluskey.

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-Yeah, Bridget The Midget, that's true. McCluskey.

-Correct.

-Yeah.

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Miss Terri "The Loony" Mooney.

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-True or false?

-Terri "The Loony" Mooney.

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I'm going to say false on that one.

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-It's true.

-Is it true? I don't remember that one.

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Mr Bill "Scruffy" McGuffey.

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-Yeah, that's true.

-True, absolutely true.

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Mr Dave "Pedigree" Chumford.

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No, that's not true.

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You are right, it's false.

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Mr Nick "Smartarse" Smart.

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No, that's not true.

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-No, it is true.

-What?

-Yeah.

-Oh, OK.

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BRIAN LAUGHS

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Mr Maurice "Bronco" Bronson, true or false?

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-That's definitely true.

-True?

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-Yeah, definitely.

-OK.

-How strict was he, Bronco?

-Yeah.

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With the 'tache. I wonder which historical figure he was based on?

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You really know your stuff about Grange Hill.

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-Or I didn't do any of my homework! And just watched TV instead.

-Exactly.

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Talking of TV and never going to school,

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when you were ill, this was the programme used to watch.

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Oh, God, don't do this to me.

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The Crown, represented by Mr Stephen Harvesty, alleged that Lannigan

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bribed Ager to smuggle forbidden goods into the prison.

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Crown Court could have been seen as an early form of reality TV.

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The cases were fictional but the jurors were members of the public

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deciding if the actor defendant was guilty or not.

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Two outcomes had to be rehearsed for when the jury

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delivered their verdict.

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Oh.

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Oh, no. HE COUGHS

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I feel a bit ill. I'm just going to lie down here.

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Oh, bless.

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-What would you...

-Crown Court, my God.

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This is supposed to make me feel better but it didn't.

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I remember, whenever I was ill, and I am sure it is perfectly illegal,

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but my mum would leave me at home on my own.

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You are not supposed to do that, were you?

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-It was a different era, wasn't it?

-Exactly, all different then.

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So, she would leave me at home in front of the telly.

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Now there's no kids' TV in the day, there's no CBeebies, no DVDs.

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You were lucky if you had a VHS.

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We had none of that, so you had to watch what was on.

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And for some reason, Crown Court was the best thing for me at the time.

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There is nothing about this that says, "Kids, watch this show."

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But I'm going, "Yeah, I'll watch it."

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Do you know why, because you were meant to be at school!

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Exactly, everything was good as long as you were not at school.

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-You are at present detained in her Majesty's Prison Parkmore.

-Yes, guv.

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Course, everyone in the box always had a southern accent.

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IN A COCKNEY ACCENT: Nothing but the truth, yeah.

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-But look who it is, it's Bob Hoskins.

-Is it?

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-What sort of things did you run?

-We used to run the book and we also...

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-The book?

-Bookmaking, you know.

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It is incredible how many distinguished actors came

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-through Crown Court.

-Brilliant, brilliant.

-It really was...

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-It was a learning ground for many of them.

-Yeah.

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Do you know the two defendants in the dock?

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-Well, one's a screw at Parkmore and the other one...

-Erm...

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What did you say?

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A screw, Your Lordship, a prison officer.

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Crown Court wasn't exactly Hollywood but it did manage to attract

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some names who became pretty huge stars

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including the 12th Doctor Who, Peter Capaldi...

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..Harry Potter star Zoe Wanamaker,

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as well as Oscar winners Colin Firth

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and the star of Gandhi and Iron Man 3, Ben Kingsley.

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-Went straight, Mr D, or went soft?

-Leave off.

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For me, it was either this, or my mum would leave a Bollywood movie on.

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The great thing about Bollywood movies, they are about

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four hours long, so my mum could leave for work at nine o'clock...

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So you are telling me you had a VHS recorder.

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Yeah, later in life, we did, we had a VHS...

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She would put this Bollywood film on for four hours,

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then she would go to work,

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then she would come home at lunchtime to give me some beans on toast and

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then put another Bollywood film on for four hours and come back at five.

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So every time I watch a Bollywood film now, I start getting a bit sick.

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You are like me, if you came home from school,

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-Mum and Dad weren't there, I had that.

-Yeah.

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What happened if you forgot your key?

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Yeah, that would happen a lot, really.

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That exactly happened to me.

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Forgotten my key or Mum is not home, she is running late,

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so I would have to go and knock on Auntie Betty's door.

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They were called Auntie Betty and Uncle Arthur.

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You know that thing of going to someone else's house.

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"Oh, look, they've got carpet. Look, they've got...

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"What TV have they got? Ours is better than theirs."

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You have come round my house, I want to make you feel at home.

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What you going to do?

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This is something we found out, Uncle Brian's.

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-Brilliant. Oh, my God, this is...

-Is it weak enough?

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I haven't met Auntie Betty in many years and Auntie Betty,

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if you are watching, I'm sorry.

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But this is exactly what she would do, in a plastic cup

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because I wasn't trusted with a glass so you have gone one better.

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I would take the glass home or something, do you know what I mean.

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-In those days, you got glasses for free from petrol stations.

-Yeah.

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So I get this.

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Mmm!

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BRIAN LAUGHS

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What is it? It's not juice and it isn't water.

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It's like she has put just a drop of orange in it, what is that about?

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Tell me, is this a white English thing?

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I mean, what is it? In our house is like, "Have it, come on,

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"have some Coke, have another glass of Coke, one Vimto, Tango,

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"have it all, blackcurrant Ribena."

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Go to Auntie Betty's - "There you go, love, there you are.

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"Another digestive as well, but can you share that with Stuart?"

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What about this, what have we got here, we have got some crisps.

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This is brilliant, this isn't an Auntie Betty thing, this is my thing.

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-This is great.

-This is you?

-Yeah, this is what we would do.

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This is you as a young kid or possibly a student?

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Coming home from school, you are waiting for Mum to come home

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and it is something I took to university with me as well.

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This is a crisp sandwich, you cannot beat a crisp sandwich.

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And you have to get these because what you have to do first is

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put your fingers all over the crisps and find...

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..that.

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So, could you please tell our viewers

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how to make a good crisp sarnie.

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I don't know the logic of it because I don't know why you just

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wouldn't buy ready-salted crisps but there is something about it,

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I guess it makes you feel creative, I don't know.

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You can decide how much salt you want on.

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What we are going to do is show you how to make a crisp sandwich.

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What are we doing, Brian?

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That's right, we are going to show you how to make a crisp sandwich.

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-How to make a crisp sandwich.

-You are going to need crisps.

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We need some crisps. And you need some salt.

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And then what you do, you sprinkle the salt into the bag.

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-Enjoy the moment.

-Enjoy that.

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-Is that enough? BOTH:

-No.

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Is that enough?

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-BOTH:

-No.

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-That's enough.

-Because it's empty.

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Because it is empty now. And then you get the bag...

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-This is very important.

-People forget this bit.

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What you are going to say now?

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They get this bit and they go, "Oh, why..."

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You've got to do this, you've got to keep the top closed...

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A bit of a shake, yeah, a bit of a shake and then,

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-simply take out some crisps...

-Ah, so you are not actually pouring...

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-You take them out individually.

-Take them out individually

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because the mess will get everywhere.

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This is better than Bake Off, forget the Bake Off,

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-this is where it is at.

-The mess will get everywhere.

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-The great British Crisp Off.

-Important to arrange them?

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-Arrange them, arrange them.

-And keep little ones underneath?

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Just go for it, just go for it.

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You've got to let yourself... Got to be a bit Jamie,

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got to go a bit pukka, know what I mean?

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-Give it some. Go a bit like that.

-Bit creative.

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Like that. Then you do that and you do that, pukka.

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I see what you are doing there, you are flattening it.

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You've got to flatten and kind of give it a...

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-Can I have a little feel?

-No, no, no, this is the rule, you see.

-Sorry.

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You've got to make your own sandwich because you don't want

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somebody else's fingers on your crisp sandwich. That's not right.

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-Thank you very much.

-Do you cut it?

-Yes, of course you cut it, yeah.

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Of course you cut it.

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I know people like to do the triangle thing. I think that is how

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the Queen has it but I like to do proper Birmingham-style,

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there you go.

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There you go, you do that, there you go, that's it, perfect.

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-You can have one of those.

-I'll have that.

-Lovely.

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Cheers, everyone.

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Now, while we are eating this, let's have a look at The Young Ones.

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Hello and welcome to another edition of University Challenge.

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University Challenge.

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So, starter for ten, fingers on the buzzers.

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Who is the richest person in the world?

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-BUZZER

-Scumbag, Vyvyan.

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What?

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Look at this cast, though, it is the whole Footlights crew, isn't it?

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This is brilliant. I love it when they start kicking it down.

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I am completely bloody sick of this.

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Give us some easy ones, Bambi, you big bottom boil!

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Relax, we can handle this. Vyvyan.

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Achtung!

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-BUZZER

-It's not an automatic?

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EXPLOSION

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My mum knew that I liked this show called The Young Ones.

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I think to this day, she probably thinks it's a nice little Muppet Show

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or something cartoony.

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But she let me have my own portable TV in my room

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so I could watch The Young Ones.

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Cos I used to say to her, "I want to watch The Young Ones."

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She'd say, "No, you can't, I'm watching this.

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-But she gave me my own TV.

-So you'd have been about...

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-About ten years old?

-I suspect so, yeah.

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Ten years old and allowed...

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-So for a ten-year-old, this was...

-It was just mad.

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You look back at it now and I understand more of the story,

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if there was a story.

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I didn't get a lot of the Thatcher jokes and the political jokes.

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But it was a thing that you had to watch because if you went to

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school the next day, me and my mates, we were all talking about it.

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You'd have had to have... if you hadn't watched

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The Young Ones, then you're not part of our gang.

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-Did you have a favourite character?

-Vyvyan all the time.

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I told you that, Mike, you bloody cheat!

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-Could you do a Neil?

-Oh, God! Erm...

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AS NEIL: Oh, come on, Vyvyan!

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-And Rick? Everyone done Rick.

-AS RICK: Neil! Neil!

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Neil!

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-BUZZER

-It was me... It was me!

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-AUDIENCE BOOS

-Stop! Stop!

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It was quite weird and surreal.

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LAUGHTER

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To get their money, it came through the light entertainment way.

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-That's the reason the band would just appear at one point.

-OK, yeah, yeah.

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You know, and they would have Madness or something in the lounge.

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Yeah. No...it's a great show.

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Again, one of the shows that probably made me think that

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if these guys can do comedy, why can't I, you know?

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I remember watching these shows going,

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-how much fun they seem to be having.

-Yeah.

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You think, this is fun. This is a great way to earn a living.

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Those ever-so-charming boys went on to create more anarchic telly.

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Rik Mayall, Ade Edmonson and Nigel Planer starred in slapstick

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showbiz satire, Filthy Rich & Catflap,

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about a desperate actor, his useless minder and his dodgy agent.

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It was a warm-up for Rik and Ade's self-penned bonkers sitcom, Bottom,

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which occasionally featured their old Young Ones chum,

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Christopher Ryan.

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I want to talk now about the next generation of viewers

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-that you have helped shape.

-Oh! Really?

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-We've got a clip now from Desi DNA.

-OK, yeah.

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The first thing that strikes me about this place

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is the enormity of it, it is absolutely huge.

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Adil's first big TV break arrived in 2003

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when he presented the Asian arts and entertainment show, Desi DNA.

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The series explored the changing face of Asian culture, both here and abroad.

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..is that back in the UK, we're so used to going to the end of the street

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and praying in that converted terraced house.

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You know, Desi DNA, it was such a great series.

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Desi means, it's a Punjabi word which means "authentic, real".

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You know, to be real and authentic.

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And, you know, for people like us to be able to shout about

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Asian culture, Asian art, you know,

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architecture, to a mainstream BBC Two audience, was just fantastic.

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This was your first big break?

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My first major break was with Paul Whitehouse

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and Charlie Higson on a TV show called Bellamy's People.

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That's where I got my first break for playing Mr Khan.

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How is it for you that no-one knows you are...

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..Citizen Khan?

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-Even when you look at the photos, you don't...

-I know.

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-It's amazing, the transformation.

-Yeah, I quite like that.

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There's a great story about my aunt, series one.

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Because for my family, they just couldn't believe that I was on TV.

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"What, you're doing a sitcom? This doesn't make sense."

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Let's not underestimate you, you wrote the sitcom.

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Yeah, co-wrote the sitcom with Anil Gupta and Richard Pinto.

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So my aunt came round once the show had been on, and

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she came round for dinner and I said, "Did you like this show?"

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She said, "Yeah, it was OK." I was like, "Oh."

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So I said, "Auntie, what is it about the show?"

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"Well, I really enjoyed the show, I loved it, it's really funny.

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"Well, what's your problem?" She goes, "But you're not in it?" You know?

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Bless her. She'd watched like three or four episodes and hadn't realised that I was Mr Khan.

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So it is quite nice in that way, really.

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So we had to sit down and put the DVD on

0:25:070:25:10

and get her to compare my nose... "Look, nose, same, same nose."

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-Shall we have a little look at the first Asian sitcom on British television?

-Why not.

-Well done you.

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Testing, testing, one, two.

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This is President Khan speaking.

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-That is you, that is great!

-That is me!

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My fellow business leaders.

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Ask not what your association can do for you.

0:25:330:25:36

But what have you done for me, lately?

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-I am a big fan of this. I think it's really great.

-Thanks.

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-You know you can drop in any time and use the facilities here.

-Yes.

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-This is the house of God open to everyone.

-Yes, that is very nice.

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-Can I just ask one thing?

-Shoot.

-Who the hell are you?

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What is the biggest buzz you get from writing Citizen Khan?

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Is it writing, is it the performance, is it reaction?

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I... I feel performance, obviously.

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It is a great buzz with all the nerves that happen beforehand.

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As soon as you're on stage, I am sure you have felt this, it is like, "Wow, this is great."

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You feel like this is what I want to do. But in terms of the reaction, I've always said, you know,

0:26:080:26:12

writing this comedy, if it can go and television, go on to BBC One

0:26:120:26:15

and a white family are watching it

0:26:150:26:18

and the wife is sat next to the husband

0:26:180:26:20

and Mr Khan does something quite ridiculous,

0:26:200:26:22

and bear in mind this is a Pakistani Muslim guy with a beard that has

0:26:220:26:26

so many connotations and stereotypes that go with that image,

0:26:260:26:29

but suddenly you know the wife nudges the husband

0:26:290:26:31

while they're sat down having their fish and chips or their curry and goes,

0:26:310:26:34

"That Mr Khan, that's a bit of you, that is."

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-Yeah.

-That... That gives me the greatest satisfaction.

0:26:360:26:39

That tells me that we are doing our job, we are

0:26:390:26:42

taking characters that have never been seen before on television

0:26:420:26:46

but people are relating to them and you have this sort

0:26:460:26:49

of universality that people go,

0:26:490:26:50

"Actually I connect so much with that."

0:26:500:26:52

Especially for young kids now, I kind of worried myself as a British Muslim

0:26:520:26:56

that the only time we see a Muslim guy with a beard on the telly is

0:26:560:26:59

when they've either been a terrorist or they are suspected

0:26:590:27:02

of being a terrorist, or they are on talking about terrorism.

0:27:020:27:05

And suddenly we have this bearded Muslim called Mr Khan who

0:27:050:27:08

is just a lovable guy, for young kids to go, "I like this guy.

0:27:080:27:11

"I think he is funny, I love him." You know, it's a great...

0:27:110:27:13

It's a great feeling, I have to say and it's credit to all the writers that I work with

0:27:130:27:17

and everyone on the show that makes that happen

0:27:170:27:19

-and I am glad it has all been embraced by our audience.

-And credit to you.

0:27:190:27:22

Now we always give our guests a chance to pick a theme tune

0:27:220:27:25

-to go out with.

-OK.

-What have you got in your head?

-Oh, God.

0:27:250:27:28

I think the ultimate for me,

0:27:280:27:30

and he's not with us any more, is John Sullivan, I think.

0:27:300:27:33

The fact that he wrote

0:27:330:27:34

and sang the theme tune to Only Fools And Horses, is just tremendous.

0:27:340:27:37

I don't think any sitcom has ever matched how big that theme

0:27:370:27:41

tune was and I don't think anyone ever will. It's just brilliant.

0:27:410:27:45

Just from the moment, the beginning of that drumroll, "du-du-du".

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Oh, it's just fantastic!

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And you have got to sing along to it.

0:27:500:27:52

-Just great, so Only Fools And Horses for me, I think.

-Thanks, Adil.

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-Brian, thanks very much.

-God bless you.

-Thank you.

0:27:550:27:57

And thanks to you for watching The TV That Made Me. We will see you next time. Bye-bye.

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