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Telly - that magic box in the corner.

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It gives us access to a million different worlds,

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all from the comfort of our sofa.

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In this series, I'm going to journey

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through the fantastic world of TV

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with some of our favourite celebrities.

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-They've chosen the precious TV moments that shed light...

-Proper.

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-She seems like a nice girl though.

-Look at that.

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..on the stories of their lives.

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# Pugh, Pugh, Barney McGrew, Cuthbert, Dibble, Grubb. #

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Some are funny...

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-Could you do the chanting?

-I could do...

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HE CHANTS GIBBERISH

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-Some...

-Amazing!

-..are surprising.

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-I was mortified.

-Some are inspiring...

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-I am not a number. I'm a free man.

-..and many...

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Did George Orwell get his predictions right?

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-It's all so dramatic!

-..are deeply moving.

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-Oh!

-Oh, no!

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..and heads down the beach towards almost certain death.

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All of us, weeping.

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So come watch with us, as we hand-pick the vintage telly

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that helped turn our much-loved stars

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into the people they are today.

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Welcome to The TV That Made Me.

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My guest today is one of the hardest working broadcasters I know.

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Her first TV appearance was on This Morning as a guest.

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She moved swiftly onto her own talk show on ITV.

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Yes, it's the extraordinary Vanessa Feltz,

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the celebrity we can't get enough of.

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Her talk shows have made her the nation's agony aunt,

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she's appeared on everything from Celebrity Big Brother

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to Strictly Come Dancing and, if that's not enough,

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she's one of the best radio broadcasters in the land.

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The TV that made her includes windswept men with big whiskers

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-romancing the high seas...

-A useful present, General.

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..and a trip down memory lane, with the musical mayhem that was

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The Good Old Days.

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Nice to city varieties, to city varieties...

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AUDIENCE: Nice!

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It can only be the one and only Vanessa Feltz.

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-Here you are.

-Hello.

-Do you feel one and only?

-Oh, yes.

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I don't think there are many others. I've never met another one.

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-Are you excited about today?

-I really, really am looking forward

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to this cos I'm secretly hoping

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to get to watch some of the things that my parents would never let me

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-and I don't know if you're going to let me.

-Oh, we will. I think you're old enough now.

-I do hope so.

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We're going to let you watch a lot of stuff

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because this is a collection of your classic clips

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that we feel made you into the person you are today.

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I'm sure you're right, actually.

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I'm sure TV was a really massive influence in my life.

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We watched tonnes of it.

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Well, we are going to rewind the clock now

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-and have a look at a very young Vanessa Feltz.

-OK.

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Vanessa Feltz is the eldest of two daughters

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born to mum Valerie and dad Norman.

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Norman ran a lingerie business, supplying fine undergarments

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to discerning ladies, whilst Valerie brought up the girls,

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worked on arts and crafts projects

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and attended the London School of Economics.

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Vanessa lived in the little village of Totteridge,

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a place that hung onto its idyllic leafiness, despite being

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only a cab-ride away from the centre of London town.

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Vanessa, we're going to start with your earliest TV memory.

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It's Friday, it's five to five, it could only be...

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Crackerjack!

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-CHILDREN SCREAM:

-Crackerjack!

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You always knew the weekend was here when Crackerjack came on.

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The concept was simple.

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Every week, Britain's youngsters were invited

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to the best kids' party ever...

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..with the messiest games, the best prizes and the funniest performers.

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-It's called a tele-bone.

-LAUGHTER

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And the party went on for an amazing 29 years

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between 1955 and 1984.

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Well, if you think that was a mess, let's see what we can do

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with our next victims as we play another Crackerjack game.

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Crackerjack Friday, five to five...

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Crackerjack, and you could legitimately shriek the name.

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Every time the word "Crackerjack" was said,

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you had to say, "Crackerjack!"

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and my mother didn't like us shouting that much.

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-Should we do it together?

-Yes. BOTH:

-Crackerjack!

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-CHILDREN SCREAM:

-Crackerjack!

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So, this was religious viewing for you?

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Oh, this was just fantastic.

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I was absolutely desperate for a Crackerjack pencil.

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I didn't know how you would get one.

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I couldn't really imagine what it was cos it sounded so special,

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I couldn't think it was just an ordinary pencil.

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It must have done something magic.

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-It's time now once again to play Double Or Drop.

-Ooh!

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I remember this.

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-They were the cabbages!

-Yes.

-Fantastic game.

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-What a great game, actually.

-It is.

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Here's the first question, then, going to our champion Crispin.

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We try and start off with a nice easy one.

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-Ed "Stewpot" Stewart.

-Ed Stewart.

-Great hair!

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In My Fair Lady, what was the name of a flower girl

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who was taught to speak properly by Professor Higgins?

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Eliza Doolittle!

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-My Fair Lady.

-Come on. Eliza Doolittle. Anyone knows that.

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All right, Vanessa, calm down. We're only having a laugh.

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-Anybody out there know?

-BOTH: Eliza Doolittle!

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Give me a Crackerjack pencil, right now.

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Eliza Doolittle. First cabbage, then.

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First cabbage and then you had to really hope

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your neck was long enough.

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People with a long neck succeeded in this game.

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-So, if they dropped, they were out?

-Yeah, yeah.

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Two more cabbages, there. Have you got it?

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So, how upset were you that you never got this magical Crackerjack pen?

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-I'm still really upset.

-Do you think this is the early Vanessa thinking,

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"Hey, I would love to present. I would love to be..."?

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I'd love to be on it, in it.

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I'd love to be introducing it, give me a pencil.

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Just let me have a piece of it, please.

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Why am I just sitting in Totteridge on an armchair

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staring at this thing? I want to be there!

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The first presenter to encourage us to scream, "Crackerjack"

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was Eamonn Andrews, who went on to become famous

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for his big red book on This Is Your Life.

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But he wasn't the only Crackerjack inmate to break out

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of children's TV. Oh, no.

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Ronnie Corbett appeared on the show in the '50s, before going on to

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team up with the other Ronnie and become a national treasure.

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Michael Aspel was the straight man to Don McLean and Peter Glaze

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in the '60s and '70s, and then took over the red book

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from Eammon Andrews.

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And in the '80s, well, Crackerjack belonged to Jannette and Ian

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AKA The Krankies. Fan-dabi-dozi.

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So, what was early life like for the Vanessa Feltz?

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I mean, where was your telly in your lounge?

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Our telly was in... Well, it was quite funny really

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cos we had this very small room, which was called the study,

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and it was book-lined and it was called the study cos my parents

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had genuinely read the books, they're very literary...

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They were very intellectual and very concerned

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that we should study and read and not watch telly.

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And there we were, watching the telly,

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ignoring the books but somehow pretending

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that cos it was called "study",

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we were secretly reading, but we weren't.

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My father used to have a copy of the New Statesman on his lap,

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while really avidly watching The Golden Shot.

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-Did he have ambitions for you?

-My dad?

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I suppose... I think they wanted me to be a celebrated female author,

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or something like that, or someone of a very...

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Well, you've achieved that.

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-Not really.

-Yeah, you're celebrated.

-I'm not sure about that, no.

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I think when I ended up on daytime telly,

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they were a bit shocked, really.

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-Were they disappointed?

-I think, yes.

-Really?

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I think they struggled to pretend to be proud.

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I think they felt that I had sold myself terribly short

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and should be doing something much, much more brainy, really.

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I think they thought I should have been

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a professor of English literature at Cambridge or something like that.

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Cos you did go to college?

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I went off to Cambridge but, really, my heart was still in the telly.

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So, as a family now, this is your family favourite,

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something you've chosen that ran for 91 episodes, would you believe?

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-Wow.

-I'm not going to say any more but The Onedin Line.

-Oh.

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Look at that. I mean, we loved it!

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The Onedin Line followed the shipping business fortunes

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of Captain James Onedin from 1971 to 1980.

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After a slow start, it was nominated for a BAFTA

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and rather appropriately became the BBC's flagship drama.

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And, like Onedin's ships, the show circumnavigated the globe,

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selling to 70 countries worldwide.

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He dies unless you come forward!

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-Captain James Onedin, look at him!

-Yeah.

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He was sort of grumpy but sexy.

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I might have been too young to know he was sexy, but I liked him.

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-Yes.

-Yes, he was formidable,

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he was northern, he had a bluff accent.

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He was just all man, wasn't he?

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-James!

-Get below, Anne!

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-That's his wife. She was plain but true, steadfast, honest...

-Strong.

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..strong, long-suffering, and all that type of thing.

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-Oh, look at those sideburns!

-Look at him there. Rugged!

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-He looks like he's on a mobile phone.

-Sexy, very sexy, very rugged.

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-Those beards!

-There's a lot of facial hair going on. A lot.

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So, religiously as a family, you would watch this while your mother pumped out eight doilies?

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We really loved it. Mum was knitting doilies and we really loved it.

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I'm not quite sure why we liked it so much. I think...

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-It's from a different era, isn't it?

-Yeah, we like the clothes a lot,

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we quite liked the foreign travel bit of it all.

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My father was importing knickers and bras from the Far East and we felt

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a certain affinity for things coming over on a boat, I suppose.

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Fabulously dramatic, though, wasn't it, for a Sunday evening?

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What sort of thing would you eat when you were watching something like this?

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Well, Sunday night, my mother... She doesn't cook on a Sunday night,

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so it always had to be something on toast.

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-Do you remember the days when it was always something on toast?

-Oh, yeah.

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Is it true that, when you were young,

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you used to like a plate of oranges?

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My mum did not wish me to be a little podge girl,

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a little podgy sort of a girl, she wanted to keep me nice and slim,

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so to that end she would do this thing about,

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"We don't eat in-between meals and, no, you must not have a snack."

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My sister was really, really skinny, so I used to either bribe,

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pay or force my sister to go and ask my mother for an orange.

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My sister was allowed to have one.

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I was supposed to wait for the next meal, so I didn't get fat.

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So my sister, at a price, would sell me an orange

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from my own parents' fruit bowl

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and I was always peckish, like I always am now.

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-I could always just murder an orange...

-Wait, one sec.

-Oh, yeah?

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Oh, yeah. I've got to go back. I'm off to the kitchen.

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-Oh, yes.

-Where's he gone? What are you doing?

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Vanessa Feltz, we have some oranges for you.

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Am I allowed to just eat as many oranges as I want?

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-You don't have to bribe me.

-Oh, thank you.

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We can leave them there if you so wish.

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I used to hide the peel behind the books in the...

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My dad instilled a real healthy ironic response to things.

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So, when it was advert and it said, whatever it was,

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I don't know, K Skips are lighter,

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so if you wore K Shoes, you somehow jumped in a light way

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and bounded through the traffic, my father would say,

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"Do you really think so? Do you think she really jumps

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"two feet in the air cos she's wearing those shoes?"

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We had a little perspective. We didn't believe everything just cos it was on telly.

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I think it very nicely dovetails us into a commercial break now

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because this is something that maybe got your father's goat.

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Have a little look at this.

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# The choice you want

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# At the prices you want... #

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Look at the goods, though.

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Amid the recession and strikes of the late '70s,

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sales at Woolworths slumped.

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The series of ads called the Wonder of Woolworths aimed to boost sales

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and bring a little more glamour to our lives.

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They succeeded on both counts.

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The Woolworths ads became national events.

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They were the most expensive,

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most star-studded spectaculars of their time.

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-That's Anita Harris!

-Yeah.

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# On our Christmas tree... #

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-Kenny Everett!

-Oh, Kenny Everett. God bless him.

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# High fidelity... #

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-Look at this. Where else would you want to go shopping?

-Look at that.

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There's nowhere else you'd ever want to go.

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Everything you could possibly want on earth in one shop.

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# Whoo, whoo... #

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My dad used to supply Woolworths with really cheap ladies' knickers

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and things. The wonder of Woolworths.

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We liked coupling the word "wonder" with the word "Woolworths"

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because we had a really local Woolworths

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in Whetstone, London, N20.

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And I wouldn't say that, when you walked through the door,

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the first thing you felt was wonder.

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-Not really.

-That's probably why they're not there now.

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No, that's why they're not.

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Although, people were so devastated when Woolworths bit the dust

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and everyone nostalgically remembered the pic'n'mix,

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the records, of course...

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-And the underwear.

-Well, I don't that was much to write home about,

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to tell you the truth.

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It probably put us through a couple of weeks of school,

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I suppose. But I think we watched it with a bit of irony

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and thought it was really hilarious, and it was, wasn't it?

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What did your parents enjoy watching?

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Well, you see, there were various things they pretended

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they enjoyed watching, like Panorama and serious documentaries

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and things on BBC Two, but I just remember them

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watching all sorts of variety programmes.

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Morecambe & Wise, everyone absolutely adored,

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The Two Ronnies,

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The Brothers. Do you remember,

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about the Hammond brothers in the haulage business?

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-If I'm honest, no.

-Oh, we used to love that.

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That was really terrific. So I think they used to watch

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a hell of a lot of TV, but my mum was a little bit snooty.

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I think it would be fair to say, a little bit snooty, and every time

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Bruce Forsyth came onto the television,

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-which, of course, he always did...

-And still does.

-..and still does.

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-Bless him.

-And, you know, I did Strictly in 2013

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and to work with him was one of the absolute joys of my entire life,

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but I just remember my mother saying, "Talentless.

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"Can't sing, can't dance, not funny, not good-looking."

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To Bruce Forsyth!

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Well, what do you think your mother would have said to this clip

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of Bruce on The Good Old Days?

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FANFARE

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CHEERING

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-That's Leonard Sachs.

-Yes.

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And he used to use those wonderful long words - I adored them.

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Avuncular harbinger of uninhibited hilarity,

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none other than Mr Bruce Forsyth!

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CHEERING

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Oh, look at Brucie.

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Nice to City Varieties, to City Varieties...

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-AUDIENCE:

-Nice!

-Yes. Oh...

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The Good Old Days was a national institution,

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broadcasting on the BBC for 30 years.

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It celebrated the spirit of Great British

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music hall entertainment that inspired so much of our TV.

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-I love the hat, dear.

-Thank you.

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-Yes, like a blancmange gone wrong.

-LAUGHTER

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And amazingly, the moustachioed host Leonard Sachs

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was there from the first year to the last,

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from 1954 right up to '83.

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-Leonard, there you are!

-Yes.

-I've been looking all over for you.

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Well, I'm always here.

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-We will now sing hymn number 605.

-LAUGHTER

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-And look how the audience got to dress up.

-Oh, I miss this show.

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I think my mother would just be saying, "Turn over.

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"Go and do your Latin homework.

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"He'll never succeed in this business. He's just not funny."

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What do you think of Bruce?

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-I think Bruce is absolutely fantastic.

-Yeah, he's a legend.

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I think he's incredibly quick-witted,

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amazingly quick-thinking,

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-I think he's a really good dancer.

-Yeah.

-And I think he's funny.

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I think he's brilliant, but my mother just didn't get him at all.

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-So Bruce obviously hosted the show when you were doing Strictly.

-Yes.

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Your experience of that, what did you take from that?

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I was honoured to even be on the same stage as him.

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In fact, so much so that on the very first night, when you just come down

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and all you're going to do is be is introduced, that's it. You don't have to dance or anything,

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you should have to stand. As I got down the stairs,

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I could literally hardly breathe from the nerves

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of knowing that I was going to do that thing with Bruce

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because we've all grown up with him.

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It was absolutely extraordinary.

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I used to worry that I would veer totally out of control

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and go skidding across the floor, knocking Brucie over,

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and I'd be known forever as the woman who felled Brucie.

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The whole thing was very nerve-racking but also very lovely.

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I was very lucky to do it.

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-So I want to move on now to taboo television.

-Oh.

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Something that... Your parents would have died

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if they knew you were watching this.

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-I wasn't allowed to watch it!

-Oh, really?

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So this is the first time...

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Oh, come on.

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This is a seminal experience in my life, right?

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The show was called Bouquet of Barbed Wire.

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It was the sexiest thing ever

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because the mother-in-law had an affair with the son-in-law....

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-Relationships.

-..and the father, played by Frank Finlay,

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really seemed, I don't know if I'm allowed to even say this on television,

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but seemed to have a bit of a thing for his own daughter...

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-Really?

-..played by Susan Penhaligon.

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And I'll never forget it.

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And mostly I won't forget it because every time the going got saucy,

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my parents made me leave the room, just when it got great!

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-Just when it was really happening!

-You had to go to bed?

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They made me go and stand in the hall, which had no central heating.

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And I'd stand in the hall, freezing to death, with my ear

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stuck against the door of the study, where the TV was,

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just straining to hear, "What is he doing to her?

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"And how is he doing it? And is that his mother-in-law? Is that his...?

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"What? What?" And then, when the sexy bit was finished,

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-they let me come back in.

-Shall we have a little look?

-Oh, yes.

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-Here's a little clip.

-Yes, please.

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ITV's adaptation of Andrea Newman's novel Bouquet of Barbed Wire

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didn't hold back from saucy scenes of secret hanky-panky

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in a middle-class family.

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In fact, it was difficult to keep up

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with who was doing what with whom.

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What we did know was that this was seriously good drama

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and that for its time, Bouquet was way ahead

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of any other programme on the box.

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-1976.

-1976?

-Yes.

-No wonder I wanted to watch it!

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-The long, hot summer of '76.

-Yeah.

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I was 14, desperate to know about this kind of thing.

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I wrote an extra long letter to the twins.

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I suppose I hoped the gods wouldn't punish me.

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That's the mother-in-law, there.

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-Let me come to the house.

-No.

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Look what's happening. She's got her eyes closed,

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she's leaning against a silver birch tree, as we all did in those days.

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Look at that! There was always a silver birch tree you could lean against.

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I'm in love with her but I don't understand her.

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I'm 14 at this point. I want to know what happens next.

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-I don't want to stand in the hall.

-Get out, get out.

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Oh, please, don't make me.

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OK.

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-Oh! Press pause! Don't, don't! No!

-Look, that's his mother-in-law!

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You should be in the hall.

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-Do I have to do go and stand in the hall?

-Get out now.

-Really?

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-Can't I just watch five minutes more?

-No.

-Just two minutes more?

0:19:090:19:12

-Oh, please! Please, please. I'll be on my best behaviour.

-Out.

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-Go.

-But I've done my Latin homework. I've done it.

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-HE SIGHS Please.

-I'm upset.

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-I'm upset with you now.

-Do I have to stand in the hall?

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Yes, go and stand in the hall while we watch the kiss.

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While we watch the kiss.

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Thank you, Vanessa. We're watching the kiss.

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-Tell me when I can come back in!

-OK. One moment.

0:19:270:19:30

All right, you can come back in. You can come back in!

0:19:350:19:38

God, I always come back in when it's all over.

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I'm sorry about that, but it had to be.

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You're not allowed to watch passionate moments.

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Smouldering, wasn't it?

0:19:500:19:51

There were hormones just fizzing through the TV.

0:19:510:19:54

The series was a catalyst for...

0:19:540:19:57

-..sex, let's be honest.

-SHE LAUGHS

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Don't say that word to me, a woman of my respectable age and standing.

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-Sex?

-Do you think it provoked many other series, spin-offs?

0:20:040:20:11

-I do. I think it was really a...

-That was the start of it?

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Yeah, springboard for as much sexy broadcasting as anybody

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could ever manage to get on the television, yeah.

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Susan Penhaligon and Trevor Eve really did spice up TV

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with Bouquet of Barbed Wire,

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but here is my guide to some other piping hot dramas.

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At four, in the '80s,

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we got hot under the collar

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watching Joanne Whalley in

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The Singing Detective.

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At three, in the '90s,

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a young and gorgeous Ewan McGregor

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and Rachel Weisz steamed up our

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screens in The Scarlett & the Black.

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At two, Alex Kingston unnerved us

0:20:510:20:53

with her highly physical Fortunes & Misfortunes of Moll Flanders.

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But at number one, it's Zoe Lucker and co in Footballers' Wives,

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the show where everyone played very dirty.

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So, we're going to move onto another show

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-that's about relationships - your show.

-Oh!

-Yeah.

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So, here we are. This is you, Vanessa.

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Wedding days - they're supposed to be the best day of your life.

0:21:240:21:28

Oh, gosh.

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Today, we'll be meeting two happy couples who can't wait

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to walk down the aisle

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and their angry relatives who are determined to stop the wedding.

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Let's not forget how much of a ground-breaking show this was.

0:21:390:21:42

This was the forerunner to so many other similar shows these days.

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It was the first ever Oprah-style British show

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and the critics said it couldn't possibly work because they said,

0:21:500:21:54

"British people are reserved, stiff upper lip,

0:21:540:21:56

"they won't want to talk about their relationships

0:21:560:21:58

"and their problems in public. They'll never do it. It will be a total failure."

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And within two weeks of it starting to be broadcast,

0:22:020:22:05

we had knocked Oprah absolutely off the chart in this country,

0:22:050:22:09

obviously not in the whole world,

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and the show went from two afternoons to three afternoons,

0:22:100:22:13

then to five mornings a week because British people, it seemed,

0:22:130:22:16

just couldn't wait to get on the television and talk about

0:22:160:22:18

-whatever it was they were getting up to or their problems.

-What were your favourite stories on there?

0:22:180:22:22

I liked, do you prefer a British bulldog to a Italian stallion?

0:22:220:22:25

That was marvellous. I really like the funny ones the best, really,

0:22:250:22:30

but there were very lots of very, very emotional ones

0:22:300:22:32

and very, very sad ones.

0:22:320:22:34

He's always standing way back behind her

0:22:340:22:36

and she's always sorting out the hassles.

0:22:360:22:38

Once again, it's that link with relationships

0:22:380:22:41

and that's pretty much... That was the success of The Vanessa.

0:22:410:22:44

I think it was cos it was genuine.

0:22:440:22:46

It was real people telling their real stories.

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These were people who'd never been on TV, sometimes people who had never left their home town.

0:22:480:22:52

Often there were people who had never stayed in a hotel

0:22:520:22:55

and they stayed in a hotel the night before the show,

0:22:550:22:57

and there they were, telling a very intimate story

0:22:570:22:59

about their real life, and there I was,

0:22:590:23:01

obviously trying to get them to tell the story

0:23:010:23:03

but at the same time, not to be like a headmistress, bossing them around.

0:23:030:23:06

Kevin and Samantha have been listening backstage.

0:23:060:23:09

It's about time they had their say.

0:23:090:23:11

Let's welcome the blushing bride and groom, Kevin and Samantha.

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APPLAUSE

0:23:150:23:16

Do think it opened us up as British people to talk about relationships?

0:23:190:23:23

-Cos we can be tight-lipped, being British.

-Yeah.

0:23:230:23:26

I thought it was a good idea that British people would feel OK

0:23:260:23:30

to talk about something very personal and intimate

0:23:300:23:32

and not feel embarrassed or ashamed, and the studio audience would

0:23:320:23:35

understand and they would go home feeling better about themselves.

0:23:350:23:38

And they did it because they felt that television was an appropriate place to do it.

0:23:380:23:42

Now, some very snooty people thought it wasn't.

0:23:420:23:44

They thought, "Why on earth would you air your dirty linen in public?

0:23:440:23:47

"Why on the television?" and the answers is, cos people love TV.

0:23:470:23:50

Just in the way I'm talking about it to you, how much, as a family,

0:23:500:23:53

my family loved it and we bonded over it,

0:23:530:23:56

we shared experiences watching TV,

0:23:560:23:58

it felt to people who were on the Vanessa show,

0:23:580:24:00

the right place to talk about their problems.

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Do you think that he should marry Samantha?

0:24:020:24:05

No. No.

0:24:050:24:06

Why not, Marie?

0:24:060:24:08

Because, like Joe said, he's a liar, he's in debt

0:24:080:24:11

and Samantha deserves better.

0:24:110:24:13

I loved doing it, I really did.

0:24:130:24:15

It was really great fun and very, very interesting.

0:24:150:24:17

-And a lovely part of your life?

-A wonderful part of my life.

0:24:170:24:20

I'm so glad that I got the chance to do it. It was really, really good.

0:24:200:24:23

Before we go, there's something that has been

0:24:230:24:25

preying on my mind that Vanessa said earlier.

0:24:250:24:29

I was absolutely desperate for a Crackerjack pencil.

0:24:290:24:32

'How could I deny her?'

0:24:320:24:34

I've got a little something for you in here.

0:24:340:24:36

This is it.

0:24:360:24:38

This is a Crackerjack...

0:24:380:24:40

-Crackerjack!

-..pencil. Yes.

0:24:400:24:43

-Ah, ah, ah! You've got to earn it first.

-I've waited my whole life.

0:24:430:24:46

-I'm going to keep that in my pocket, here...

-OK.

0:24:460:24:48

..because we're going to play the cabbage game.

0:24:480:24:51

-Double Or Drop?

-Double Or Drop. Come and join me over here.

0:24:510:24:54

-A lifelong ambition.

-If you'd like to stand there, please.

0:24:540:24:56

-I would love to.

-I shall read out the rules for you now.

-Yes.

0:24:560:24:59

Now, the rules are clear. I shall ask you a question

0:24:590:25:01

about Crackerjack. If you get it right, you get a toy.

0:25:010:25:03

But if you get it wrong, you are given a cabbage.

0:25:030:25:06

This keeps going until you either drop a toy or get three cabbages.

0:25:060:25:11

-Are you ready?

-Yes, I'm ready.

0:25:110:25:13

Here is your first question.

0:25:130:25:14

What did you have to shout out whenever the host said Crackerjack?

0:25:140:25:17

Crackerjack!

0:25:170:25:19

Yes, correct. There you go, there is a toy.

0:25:190:25:21

Name the presenter who served from 1964 to 1968.

0:25:210:25:26

Leslie Crowther.

0:25:260:25:27

Leslie Crowther.

0:25:270:25:29

Which Crackerjack host liked to tell the viewers

0:25:290:25:32

he could crush a grape or jump off a doll's house?

0:25:320:25:35

Ooh, I could crush a grape... Stu...

0:25:350:25:38

Stuart... Hen... Henry?

0:25:380:25:40

-No, I'm afraid...

-Stu... Oh, no!

0:25:400:25:42

-Stu Francis.

-Stu Francis.

-There you go.

0:25:420:25:45

Hang on, wait, wait.

0:25:450:25:46

What was the magical alter ego of Geoffrey Durham?

0:25:460:25:51

The Great Soprendo!

0:25:510:25:52

The Great Soprendo. Absolutely right. There you go.

0:25:520:25:55

You're not arranging them in a very...

0:25:550:25:57

-Well, I want to make it difficult for you.

-..acceptable manner.

0:25:570:26:00

What year did Crackerjack FINALLY get the boot from the screens?

0:26:000:26:04

No idea. '83?

0:26:040:26:05

-1984.

-Oh, come on. That was close! Let me have that. I said '83.

0:26:050:26:08

Um... No, it's wrong. You're going to have a cabbage.

0:26:080:26:12

OK, there you go. Here's the next one.

0:26:120:26:13

Which well-known British phrase was apparently

0:26:130:26:16

coined on Crackerjack by Don McLean and Peter Glaze?

0:26:160:26:21

I think it was, "Don't get your knickers in a twist."

0:26:210:26:24

You are absolutely right. There you go.

0:26:240:26:28

-Now, this is it.

-I'm getting a good whiff of cabbage.

0:26:280:26:31

-It's quite odiferous, this cabbage.

-This is the last question.

0:26:310:26:35

The shows were filmed at BBC Television Theatre,

0:26:350:26:38

which is now known by what name?

0:26:380:26:41

I think... Could it be the Shepherd's Bush Empire?

0:26:410:26:43

-Yes, you're absolutely right.

-Am I?

0:26:430:26:45

Yeah, the Shepherd's Bush Empire. Correct. Well done indeed.

0:26:450:26:48

-Hooray!

-Vanessa Feltz, you have won.

0:26:480:26:49

I am so chuffed and so honoured to give you your own,

0:26:490:26:54

very personal Crackerjack pencil.

0:26:540:26:57

Oh, thank you! Mwah.

0:26:570:27:00

-I'm a bit surprised that it is just a pencil.

-Come and sit down.

0:27:000:27:03

-Well, what more did you want?

-Well, I thought it might...

0:27:030:27:06

-It's not magical.

-..squirt water or be propelled

0:27:060:27:10

or have different colours. It's just a pencil.

0:27:100:27:12

I mean, you've won many coveted awards over the years...

0:27:120:27:15

53 years I've waited and it's just a pencil.

0:27:150:27:17

-I'm sorry, but that's what they said it was.

-I'm a bit shocked.

0:27:170:27:21

I know.

0:27:210:27:22

-Let's move onto what you like watching now.

-OK.

0:27:260:27:28

-What do you like watching now?

-Well, it's so funny, I love Modern Family

0:27:280:27:31

and what's that about?

0:27:310:27:32

-Relationships.

-Yeah.

-Isn't it?

-Yeah.

0:27:320:27:34

And it's great cos they actually all really love each other

0:27:340:27:36

and they're incredibly funny,

0:27:360:27:38

and it's very moving in a very funny way.

0:27:380:27:40

It's one of the only programmes

0:27:400:27:41

I've ever watched in my life that I always think is too short.

0:27:410:27:43

Every time it ends, I think,

0:27:430:27:45

"I could do with another ten minutes of that."

0:27:450:27:47

I love Modern Family.

0:27:470:27:48

And you get a chance now to choose a theme tune,

0:27:480:27:50

a theme tune from something we've possibly seen today

0:27:500:27:52

that will play us out.

0:27:520:27:53

SHE SINGS AN EXPRESSIVE THEME TUNE

0:27:530:27:57

-Crackerjack?

-Yes.

0:27:570:27:59

-No, The Onedin Line.

-The Onedin Line, by Khachaturian.

0:27:590:28:02

Many thanks to the lovely Vanessa.

0:28:020:28:05

Thank you for watching The TV That Made Me.

0:28:050:28:07

This is The Onedin Line and we'll see you soon.

0:28:070:28:10

-It's a pencil!

-I know, but I thought it would be

0:28:100:28:12

a bit more interesting than this. HE SIGHS

0:28:120:28:15

MUSIC: Adagio of Spartacus and Phrygia by Aram Khachaturian

0:28:150:28:19

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