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It went out three nights a week live,

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with a live audience and everyone who was anyone dropping in,

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the great and the good, the bad and the ugly, and they called it Wogan.

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I never knew why!

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So, if you're sitting comfortably,

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I'll show you something I made earlier.

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God knows what they'll make of us in 25 years' time!

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Greetings.

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Today, we're focusing on big names from the small screen,

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the stars who spent an inordinate amount of time,

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almost as much as myself, being beamed into your living rooms

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and onto the box at which even now you are goggling,

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including Kylie Minogue, Dudley Moore, Leonard Nimoy,

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Colin Baker and Ade Edmondson.

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First of all, a bunch of doddery old fools obsessed with beating

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the Germans. No, not the heads of the English Football Association.

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It's the Home Guard heroes from Walmington-on-Sea,

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the cast of Dad's Army, in the shape of Clive Dunn, Bill Pertwee

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and that stupid boy Ian Lavender.

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APPLAUSE

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You're welcome.

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-It's a nice thing to celebrate, the 20th anniversary, isn't it?

-It is.

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I know you've come from Portugal, Jonesey, to be with us.

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Yes, I'm not supposed to be here at all, really.

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I reckon that if I was alive today... I'd be 118!

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Now, Dad's Army brought together a very professional team of actors.

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Were you wary of each other in the way that actors are of each

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-other's professional skills?

-I think probably yes, I think so.

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When I joined, I came from the other side of the fence.

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There's always a few from the other side!

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I'd done a lot of variety and summer shows.

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Clive had also done some variety,

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but I think the majority of the cast were a little bit wary of me.

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What has David brought this lunatic in for?

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-From variety rather than the theatre.

-That's right.

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And of course, you were just out of acting school.

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Just, six months.

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That must have been fairly horrific for you,

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because these established performers...

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Horrific, no, but terrifying.

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I'd done six months in rep and I'd done one television play.

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I can truthfully say that I got the job, before David comes on,

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that I got the job because my agent was sleeping with the director.

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-Be quiet!

-Good man. As good a reason as any.

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They've got six children and 35 grandchildren as well,

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but that was the start and how I met David and so on.

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I arrived for the filming on the first day

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and I was used to getting digs in rep and nobody had mentioned

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hotels, so I assumed we were going away for the day.

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I arrived at Television Centre, everybody's got a suitcase,

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so I had to go home again and get some clothes.

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And there they were, gods.

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Except for Bill Pertwee, he wasn't a god at all. He was from variety.

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Were they kind...?

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BLOWS BUGLE

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What are you blowing that for?!

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They don't work if you suck them!

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APPLAUSE

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-Did you...?

-Pardon? What?

-I feel like Captain Mainwaring now.

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Did you say yes to that part immediately, the part of Corporal Jones?

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Oh, no. I didn't say yes. No, no, I waited at least three minutes.

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No, to be honest I'd just been in a show that I wasn't very good in

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and thought, "I don't want to go in another show

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"I'm not very good in," so I waited a minute and asked my wife,

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because she tells me what to do, and then I asked John Le Mesurier

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and he said, "I think I'm going to do it,"

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and when he said he'd do it, I did it and we all done it.

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-And you all done it very well.

-Can I play you a tune, please?

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I wish you wouldn't.

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-I didn't tell you about when I was in North Africa, did I?

-No.

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No. Have you got an hour or two?

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Anyway, me and my friend,

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because I had a lot of friends out there, as you can imagine,

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we were in the place there with the desert

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and an officer came in and said,

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"General Gordon wants to be relieved!" And I thought,

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"That sounds like a nice job," so I said, "I'd like to

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"volunteer to relieve General Gordon." He said,

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"You'll have to join the Camel Corps."

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Well, that was bad news for me and my mate, because we didn't

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like camels, they dribble a lot and give you psoriasis of the elbows.

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He said, "You've got to have a medical exam..."

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I'm being as quick as I can!

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My friend went in and had a medical exam and the doctor said,

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"You needn't go in the Camel Corps." He came out and said,

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"I'm not going out because I have to wear this truss."

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So I said, "Can I borrow it, please?"

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So he lent me the truss and I went in and the doctor said,

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"You've got to go in the Camel Corps." I said, "Why?" He said,

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"How long have you worn that?" So I told a little white lie, I said,

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"About six years." He said, "You're definitely going in the Camel Corps.

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"Anyone who can wear a truss upside down for six years can ride a camel!"

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APPLAUSE

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BLOWS BUGLE

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A blast from the past from Corporal Jones there.

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And now someone even more musically gifted than Clive Dunn...

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the wonderful Dudley Moore.

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Not only one of my favourite and funniest guests,

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but a terrific piano player. Real talent.

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HE PLAYS VARIATIONS OF THE COLONEL BOGEY MARCH

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APPLAUSE

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Wonderful.

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1,000 different ways with Colonel Bogey.

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HE PANTS

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Yes, oh, yes.

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I can't... I wrote that 30 years ago, I can't believe I'm still playing it!

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-I must be nuts.

-It's wonderful. Thank you for doing it for us.

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Thank you, it was fun.

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When you were in New York...

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This whole programme involves looking back in time, so we've

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obviously got to include TV's greatest time traveller, the Doctor.

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Who? Well, when the Tardis dropped into Shepherd's Bush,

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he had taken on the form of the sixth Doctor.

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APPLAUSE

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The Doctor!

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Doctor.

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-Number six...

-AUDIENCE MEMBER SHOUTS

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Number six in the long 23-year-old line that started

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in black and white with William Hartnell. Colin Baker, Doctor Who.

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-Is this the planet Shepherd's Bush?

-It is indeed, sir.

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-Good to see you.

-I'll turn into me now.

-Good man.

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Dressed for the occasion, Doctor.

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-You're not scared of monsters, are you?

-No!

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-I've been to the BBC canteen.

-Of course.

-Nothing can frighten me.

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Are any of your family scared?

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Because I know you've got various little ones.

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Are they terrified of the monsters?

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Do they look out for you when you have to deal with them?

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The one who is most frightened, I have to say, is my own wife,

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who actually wouldn't come to the studio when we had the Daleks there.

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She's a grown woman and should know better,

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but she's terrified of Daleks.

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And I have told her that they're not always real.

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Occasionally, there is one with a little man running around inside.

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Why is the old Tardis a blue police box?

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Maybe there's some people who know the answer,

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but I've been watching it man and boy,

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and I've never really understood why it's a police callbox, the Tardis.

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Well, 23 years ago when it started,

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-when you were much too young to watch it...

-No, I was there.

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..William Hartnell arrived in London in his police box, the Tardis,

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and it had a thing called the chameleon circuit which didn't work

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properly and it was supposed to make the outside of his time machine

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look exactly right in its surroundings,

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so in London, fine, police box, but then the chameleon circuit broke

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and it has been stuck like that ever since.

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I never knew the historical antecedence of it.

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So that's the reason.

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-In America, Doctor Who is a cult series, isn't it?

-Yes.

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It's not known to the man in the street.

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I mean, I can walk down the street in New York and nobody will say,

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"Aren't you the Doctor?"

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But it's shown on the public service networks at 11 o'clock every night.

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I met a fellow on a plane last year, an American,

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who was a terrific fan of Doctor Who.

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There are Doctor Who conventions and things. Do you go over to America?

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-I do.

-And greet them?

-Those who watch it are absolutely potty about it.

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Here, you might get 1% of the people who watch the programme

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who are Fans, with a capital F, but over in the States,

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90% of those who watch it are besotted by it,

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so you go to conventions in the most extraordinary places,

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university towns, all over the States and thousands of people

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turn up to touch the hem of the Doctor's garment.

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Isn't it strange, though, after the sophistication of Star Wars

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and all the rest of it and special effects

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that are ultra-sophisticated on film, that this Doctor Who which,

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apart from the appearing and disappearing box, the effects

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aren't all that good? What do you think the real appeal is?

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I think that is part of the appeal, actually.

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It's the fact that it has always been very English,

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it's been Plasticine and bits of string

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and you can't summon up some piece of hi-tech equipment to get you

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out of a terrible situation, you have to rely on ingenuity.

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And because the budgets, quite frankly, aren't the size.

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I mean, a special effect in Star Wars would pay for an entire

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series of Doctor Who, but I think that can work to a programme's

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benefit and I think it would be a mistake now for Doctor Who to

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try and compete with the hi-tech series.

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More science fiction now.

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Prepare yourself for Spock in specs and without the pointy ears.

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The star of the Star Trek series and films

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beamed down to the Wogan studio in 1989

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and I promptly got his name wrong.

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Welcome, Lemon... Lemon?! Leonard Nimoy!

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APPLAUSE

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You'd think we didn't rehearse this show. Lemon Nimoy!

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-That is well done.

-Leonard Nimoy.

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Do you mind us still seeing you as Spock?

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-No, I expect it will go on for as long as I live.

-You don't resent it?

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I've gone through some good and bad times with it,

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but I've made peace with it.

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I haven't wanted for work ever since Spock came into my life,

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so I'm OK about it.

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But sometimes actors say, "Oh, I'm tied to this,"

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but of course, it's not true in your case.

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No, I've had a lot of other kinds of work

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and I've had the opportunity to start a directing career

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as a result of it, so I feel very comfortable with it.

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And I am still playing Spock.

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We just made Star Trek V just before I left the States.

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-Not another one?

-Yeah, another one.

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How far do you think old Spock affected your personality?

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I think a lot.

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In terms of functioning logically, thinking logically, I think a lot.

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I think that I was much more emotionally directed rather

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than logically directed before I started playing the character.

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As a matter of fact, Spock, when I first started playing him

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was a much more emotional character than he is now.

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Great fun to do, of course, but as far as your emotions went, you still

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lost control of them, you weren't like Spock as far as that went?

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-Personally, you mean?

-Yeah.

-Only on Sunday.

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You called your autobiography I Am Not Spock,

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which would lead one to believe that you were trying to get away from it.

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It was a mistake, it was a mistake.

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Around the early '70s, I guess it was, I wrote this book,

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an autobiography, and during the course of writing it,

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I had an experience in an airport, San Francisco. A lady recognised me.

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She had with her a five- or six-year-old child and she

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brought him over in front of me and she said, "Johnny, look who is here.

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"This is the person you love, you watch him every week." And Johnny

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looked at me and I'm standing there looking much like this.

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And he's staring at me and there was no recognition.

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She said, "You know who that is, that's your favourite

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"person on television." He's looking at me and there's no response.

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She said, "That's Mr Spock!" And he wouldn't buy it,

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because I had the glasses and the hair was wrong and I didn't have the

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right clothes on and what would Spock be doing in San Francisco airport?

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-And the ears!

-And the ears were wrong.

-Not that much, though!

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You get the point.

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So she was right and she was wrong.

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What she was saying to him was this is the actor who plays Mr Spock.

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She was jumping in language, she'd made that leap,

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but he couldn't make that leap and he couldn't make the connection.

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So I wrote about this incident as a way of describing

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the difference between character identity,

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the reality between who I am and who this character is that I play,

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and when it came time to title the book,

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we thought we'd like to have Spock's name in the title

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so people would know it was about me and Star Trek and Spock,

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and I didn't think Spock And I was very exciting,

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or My Friend Spock, so I said to the publisher,

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"Why don't we use the title of that chapter I Am Not Spock

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"as the title of the book?" He said, "Books with negative titles

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"don't sell very well." I said, "What about Gone With The Wind?"

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"If that's what you want, that's what we'll do."

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So we titled it I Am Not Spock.

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A lot of people read the title, didn't read the book

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and assumed that what I was doing was rejecting the Spock character,

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which wasn't the case.

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Now Star Trek III and IV were tremendous blockbusters.

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Better than I and II, do you think?

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Star Trek I did extremely well. Star Trek II fell off somewhat.

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With Star Trek III and IV, we started climbing back up

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again. I think Star Trek IV has done the best of all of them.

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It's been terrific for you, hasn't it?

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Did you make it a condition that you wouldn't do III and IV

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-unless you were allowed to direct?

-No, not really.

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I wasn't that crass about it, a little bit more gentle than that.

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You got your agent to say it?

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No, I had some very interesting conversations with the people

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at Paramount and what I said to them was, "You have two problems.

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"You need somebody to play Spock

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"and you need somebody to direct the picture

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"and I can solve both your problems." And that's the way it worked out.

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-It was OK.

-That's very shrewdly put. You don't get one without the other.

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It can't be easy to direct yourself, though.

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-It must be virtually impossible.

-It's hard.

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It's easier when you've been playing the character for many years

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and you know who this character is, but it's physically very hard.

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The Spock make-up takes two hours every morning,

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so if I had to be at work at 7am as the director of the picture,

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I had to report to work at 5am to start getting the make-up on,

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get out of the make-up chair at seven and become a director.

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It's a long day.

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Tell me why III and IV, do you think, from your point

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of view at least, why you thought they were more successful?

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I think when the first Star Trek movie was made, whenever it was,

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1979, 1980, there was a sense that we could not have fun.

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It was the first time we were making Star Trek in something like 11 years

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and the sense was Stanley Kubrick made a very important film called 2001.

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If you want to be important, you've got to be serious

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and do it very ponderously, which we did.

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And it wasn't a heck of a lot of fun.

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We began to have fun again with Star Trek II,

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more with III and still more with IV.

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You've just done Star Trek V.

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Are there any surprises in that, any controversies?

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Well, it's called The Final Frontier, not

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because it's the final film, by any means.

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I think we'll be doing these films until we are in wheelchairs.

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You hope!

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Bill Shatner directed it

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and it's different from the ones we've done in the past.

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I think it's a lot of fun.

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He is a much more physical director, a much more physical guy than I am.

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I like to play Spock as a thoughtful person who doesn't have to do

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a lot of running and jumping and punching people.

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He pinches people's necks to avoid the slug-out.

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Shatner is a very physical guy, so you do a lot more running

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and jumping in a Shatner film.

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Well, we look forward to seeing Mr Spock jumping about.

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In the meantime, it's been a great pleasure to talk to you.

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-Leonard Nimoy.

-Thank you.

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APPLAUSE

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Live long and prosper. That was Spock's catchphrase.

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And someone who clearly lives by the same motto is Lulu,

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a little lady with a big, big voice, who marked 25 years in showbiz

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with this marvellous medley of her biggest hits.

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# Don't have a lot, but with me that's fine

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# Whatever I got, well, I know it's mine

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# You know that I'm thinking about you, baby

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# You better know before you come along

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# The boat that I row won't cross no ocean

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# The boat that I row won't get me there soon

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# But I got the love and if you got the notion

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# The boat that I row's big enough for two

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# I'm a tiger, I'm a tiger

0:22:100:22:13

# I'm a tiger, I'm a tiger

0:22:130:22:17

# I'm a tiger, I'm a tiger

0:22:170:22:20

# I'm a tiger, I'm a tiger

0:22:200:22:24

# Oh, no, not me

0:22:280:22:32

# I never lost control

0:22:320:22:36

# You're face to face

0:22:360:22:40

# With the man who sold the world

0:22:400:22:44

# Those schoolgirl days

0:22:490:22:52

# Of telling tales and biting nails are gone

0:22:520:23:02

# But in the mind

0:23:020:23:07

# I know they will still live on and on

0:23:070:23:13

# Mm-hm-mm

0:23:130:23:16

# But how do you thank someone

0:23:160:23:20

# Who has taken you from crayons to perfume?

0:23:200:23:24

# It isn't easy but I'll try

0:23:270:23:33

# If you wanted the sky

0:23:350:23:37

# I would write across the sky in letters

0:23:370:23:42

# That would soar a thousand feet high

0:23:420:23:46

# To sir, with love... #

0:23:460:23:53

Here it comes!

0:23:560:23:57

# Boom bang-a-bang, boom bang-a-bang when you are near

0:23:570:24:01

# Boom bang-a-bang, boom bang-a-bang loud in my ear

0:24:010:24:04

# Pounding away, pounding away, won't you be mine?

0:24:040:24:08

# Boom bang-a-bang-bang all the time

0:24:080:24:15

# We-e-e-e-e-ell!

0:24:180:24:24

# Whoo!

0:24:240:24:26

# You know you make me wanna shout

0:24:260:24:28

-# Look, my hand's jumping

-Shout!

0:24:280:24:30

-# Look, my heart's thumping

-Shout!

0:24:300:24:32

-# Throw my head back

-Shout!

0:24:320:24:34

# Come on now

0:24:340:24:35

# Don't forget to say you will

0:24:350:24:38

# Don't forget to shout, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah

0:24:390:24:43

# Say you will, throw your head back, baby

0:24:430:24:46

# Say you will, come on, come on

0:24:460:24:50

# Say you will

0:24:500:24:52

-# Hey hey hey hey

-Hey hey hey hey

0:24:520:24:56

-# Hey hey hey hey

-Hey hey hey hey

0:24:560:25:00

-# Hey hey hey hey

-Hey hey hey hey

0:25:000:25:03

-# Hey hey hey hey

-Hey hey hey hey

0:25:030:25:07

# Shout now, jump up and shout now

0:25:070:25:09

# Everybody shout now Everybody shout now

0:25:090:25:13

# Everybody shout shout shout shout

0:25:130:25:16

# Shout shout shout shout

0:25:160:25:18

# Shout shout shout shout

0:25:180:25:20

# Shout shout shout shout

0:25:200:25:22

# Well, I feel a-a-a-all ri-i-ight! #

0:25:220:25:36

My next guest is Mario Net. Strange, I don't remember him.

0:25:420:25:48

Oh, hang on, my next guest IS a marionette.

0:25:480:25:52

A puppet. Not just any puppet, though. Parker, Lady Penelope's

0:25:520:25:57

right-hand man in Thunderbirds.

0:25:570:26:00

The left hand was presumably pulling the strings.

0:26:000:26:03

-Are you receiving me?

-Hello?

-Can you hear me?

0:26:040:26:08

Testing, testing, one, two, three, four.

0:26:080:26:14

-Are you receiving me?

-Yes! We are receiving you loud and clear.

0:26:140:26:20

The line from Rio is terrific.

0:26:200:26:22

But tell me, it's been something like 20 years

0:26:220:26:24

since we've seen you, over 20 years

0:26:240:26:26

since you first held the nation in thrall of a Saturday morning.

0:26:260:26:29

What have you been doing?

0:26:290:26:31

After International Rescue broke up, I was asked to come out here

0:26:310:26:35

and lie low to do a bit of undercover work.

0:26:350:26:38

I've still got my contracts with those in high places, you know.

0:26:380:26:43

-You mean the sort of people who pull the strings?

-Oh, yes.

0:26:430:26:47

I'm talking about the likes of Michael Grade, Billy Cotton

0:26:470:26:51

and of course, Britain's most notorious wanted bloke.

0:26:510:26:57

You don't mean to tell me that out of there in sunny Rio,

0:26:570:27:00

lying on the beach, surrounded by pina coladas,

0:27:000:27:02

you know the elusive Ronnie Biggs?

0:27:020:27:07

No, no, I'm inferring to Dirty Den.

0:27:070:27:11

I knew him when he was Disgusting Dennis, the snotty-nosed kid.

0:27:110:27:15

And he had some horrible habits then.

0:27:150:27:18

Well, if you don't mind, I think we'll draw a veil over that.

0:27:180:27:21

Tell me, you've lived out in Rio all this time.

0:27:210:27:24

The passing years seem to have treated you kindly.

0:27:240:27:27

You've even got a tan from where I'm sitting,

0:27:270:27:29

so why did you decide to re-emerge?

0:27:290:27:31

Since they issued those new videos and put me

0:27:310:27:34

and Thunderbirds back on the map, I've been thinking about writing

0:27:340:27:38

a book, a "taking the lid off, now it can be revealed" sort of book.

0:27:380:27:45

Well, that will be a racy tome, by the sound of it.

0:27:450:27:48

A sort of what-the-chauffeur-saw in written form.

0:27:480:27:52

You've hit the screw right on the nail, Mr Wogan.

0:27:520:27:54

Let's have another forthright question,

0:27:540:27:56

a question that must have crossed a million minds

0:27:560:27:59

and even perhaps provoked the odd university thesis.

0:27:590:28:01

In Thunderbirds, everyone was always saying F.A.B.

0:28:010:28:04

You know, "Mission complete, F.A.B." What does it mean?

0:28:040:28:08

Well, one night, Jeff Tracy, he liked a little drink, you know.

0:28:080:28:13

Anyway, he's just got these people out of the pit of peril

0:28:130:28:17

and he told me in conference that F.A.B. was short for fabulous.

0:28:170:28:25

Fabulous? That's it?

0:28:270:28:28

You mean, grown men have spent endless hours grappling with

0:28:280:28:31

the meaning of F.A.B. and it's simply short for fabulous?

0:28:310:28:34

I know, it's all been a bit of a storm in a teapot.

0:28:340:28:38

But that's the way the biscuit disintegrates.

0:28:390:28:42

You're a sly one, Parker. I'm beginning to see that now.

0:28:440:28:47

Let's get down to the nitty-gritty. Lady Penelope, hmm?

0:28:470:28:51

-Lady Penelope? Come on.

-You know about that, do you?

0:28:510:28:54

I'm hoping to be enlightened, actually.

0:28:540:28:57

Lady Penelope, there she was, cool, aristocratic, beautiful,

0:28:570:29:00

intelligent, rich, unattached, available, all woman, attractive,

0:29:000:29:07

even to a humble chauffeur such as yourself, Parker, I suggest.

0:29:070:29:11

Say no more, Mr Wogan.

0:29:110:29:13

One night, at Lady P's mansion, it had been raining, I remember.

0:29:130:29:20

Anyway, her ladyship slipped upstairs to have a bath.

0:29:200:29:25

I'd put the Roller away

0:29:260:29:28

and I'd just made myself a nice cup of cocoa when...

0:29:280:29:32

-Yes?

-PHONE RINGS

0:29:320:29:34

Excuse me. Hello?

0:29:340:29:37

Oh, it's you, milady.

0:29:370:29:41

Yes, milady.

0:29:410:29:43

No, milady.

0:29:430:29:46

Home, milady?

0:29:460:29:50

Now, milady?

0:29:500:29:52

Yes, milady.

0:29:520:29:56

-You'll never guess who that was, Mr Wogan.

-I'll take a stab in the dark.

0:29:590:30:04

-Perhaps it was Lady Penelope?

-Oh, no, that was the higher lady.

0:30:040:30:11

She said something about the Official Secrets Act.

0:30:120:30:16

Maybe I better forget about my book.

0:30:160:30:20

I'll have to go now.

0:30:200:30:21

Good night, Mr Wogan.

0:30:210:30:22

Good night, everybody.

0:30:230:30:25

And keep watching me on those Thunderbird videos.

0:30:250:30:29

Well, as they say in Rio,

0:30:290:30:32

buenas noches.

0:30:320:30:33

LAUGHTER

0:30:330:30:36

APPLAUSE

0:30:360:30:40

Buenas noches.

0:30:400:30:42

Now, a lady whose career could have been very different,

0:30:430:30:46

if only she'd listened to me.

0:30:460:30:48

When she came on the show,

0:30:480:30:50

we knew her best as Charlene from Neighbours.

0:30:500:30:54

But she had other ambitions. "Careful," I warned her.

0:30:540:30:57

"A pop career can be very short-lived."

0:30:570:30:59

Shows how much I know. Kylie Minogue.

0:31:010:31:04

-Minogue is an Irish name, really, isn't it?

-I think so.

0:31:040:31:07

I think it might have originally come from France

0:31:070:31:10

-and then moved to Ireland.

-Really?

0:31:100:31:12

And come to Australia in the potato famine.

0:31:120:31:14

Who knows?

0:31:140:31:16

-Most people have a hard enough time pronouncing it.

-Kylie's a kind of...

0:31:160:31:20

We're talking about doing the little trail with you.

0:31:200:31:23

But Kylie is a kind of popular name for Australian girls.

0:31:230:31:25

Yeah, it's an Australian name and, as I say, it means boomerang.

0:31:250:31:30

I don't know if it was good or bad to admit that.

0:31:300:31:32

But, yeah, I haven't heard anyone else in any other country

0:31:320:31:35

-called Kylie.

-Yeah.

0:31:350:31:37

I think they're all kind of struck dumb, they're fascinated to see you.

0:31:370:31:40

Because it is...

0:31:400:31:42

I'm just going to ask the audience - it's kind of different when you see

0:31:420:31:45

somebody in real life than when you see them on the telly?

0:31:450:31:47

-YES!

-Steady.

0:31:470:31:49

I'm a constant source of disappointment.

0:31:500:31:52

But I think they'll be quite pleased with you.

0:31:520:31:54

-Oh, it's good to see you all here too.

-Yeah.

0:31:540:31:56

And good to see you, Kylie.

0:31:560:31:58

APPLAUSE AND CHEERING

0:31:580:32:00

How long have you been acting?

0:32:020:32:04

I first acted when I was 11 years old,

0:32:040:32:06

in a show called The Sullivans, which I believe you've had here.

0:32:060:32:09

-That's right, we've seen it.

-And, since then...

0:32:090:32:11

-I used to like The Sullivans! What's the matter with you?

-Oh, sure!

-Yeah.

0:32:120:32:17

-Yeah.

-Who did I play?

-Who did you play?

-See, you don't know, do you?

0:32:170:32:21

-I can't remember, no.

-I played a Dutch girl called Carla.

0:32:210:32:24

And then I did some more acting when I was about 16.

0:32:240:32:26

-And from then on, I haven't really stopped.

-Yeah. We've...

0:32:260:32:30

Obviously the papers have been full of Neighbours

0:32:300:32:33

and all the characters in it. And we've had a number

0:32:330:32:35

of the characters... among them Jason Donovan,

0:32:350:32:37

with whom you have a relationship on the screen.

0:32:370:32:40

But off-screen as well?

0:32:400:32:42

Yes, we do have a relationship, but not a loving, sexual relationship.

0:32:420:32:47

-But...

-Chums?

-We're buddies.

-Yeah.

0:32:470:32:51

So we read a lot about you and he being more than friends

0:32:510:32:54

-and "perhaps one day" and all that kind of thing.

-Yes, we also read

0:32:540:32:57

that I'm anorexic and that I've had an affair...

0:32:570:33:00

Lots of things that you read.

0:33:000:33:02

-Yeah. You're not anorexic. I mean, you're quite...

-I'm not.

0:33:020:33:07

No, you're not. You're quite well covered. You are. Can I...?

0:33:070:33:11

No, you're not. You're petite, as you say.

0:33:110:33:15

Bit like myself. You've just...

0:33:150:33:17

LAUGHTER

0:33:170:33:19

In the future, we read that you've left Neighbours,

0:33:190:33:21

-that you're going to leave Neighbours.

-Yes...

0:33:210:33:24

But you're about 18 months in front of us in Australia?

0:33:240:33:26

Yeah, so not for a while. I'm afraid

0:33:260:33:28

you'll have to put up with me for a bit longer.

0:33:280:33:31

I left about four weeks ago and I haven't been killed off, so...

0:33:310:33:35

You could come back?

0:33:350:33:36

Yes, it's open for me to return if I wish to do so.

0:33:360:33:39

Do you feel that that's a wise thing for you to do?

0:33:390:33:42

After all, it is the whole centre of your fame.

0:33:420:33:46

I know you've made it as a singer and all that kind of thing.

0:33:460:33:49

Do you think maybe if you give up Neighbours,

0:33:490:33:52

-you'll slip away a bit?

-I would hope not, but it's there for

0:33:520:33:56

me to go back if I want to, which is nice and reassuring to know.

0:33:560:34:00

At this stage, I'm really not sure.

0:34:000:34:02

I'm concentrating on the next couple of months. But,

0:34:020:34:04

-who knows, Charlene might...

-You're concentrating on the singing?

0:34:040:34:08

-Yeah.

-But it's as an actress, really. Do you see yourself as a singer or an actress?

0:34:080:34:11

-What do you want to be?

-Both.

0:34:110:34:14

Eventually you're going to have to come down and decide

0:34:140:34:16

-to be one thing or the other?

-Eventually...

0:34:160:34:19

You see, pop singing and being a hit maker,

0:34:190:34:21

-that can't last as long as being an actress.

-No, true.

0:34:210:34:24

I guess with acting you can only keep on learning

0:34:240:34:27

and developing new skills. So I really don't know.

0:34:270:34:30

I can only sort of think a week ahead.

0:34:300:34:33

I'm enjoying what I'm doing at the moment

0:34:330:34:36

and I'm concentrating on singing.

0:34:360:34:37

I'll hopefully go back to acting after I've done the tour with

0:34:370:34:41

-the album. And stay in work, mainly, is my aim.

-Yeah.

0:34:410:34:45

-You're 20 years of age, is that right?

-Mm.

0:34:450:34:49

It's very young to have achieved the kind of fame

0:34:490:34:52

and fortune that you have achieved.

0:34:520:34:54

Has it been hard to handle?

0:34:540:34:56

Um, no, I don't think so.

0:34:560:34:59

The greatest help I have is my family, who are always there for me.

0:34:590:35:02

I still live at home. And they're very supportive and stabilising.

0:35:020:35:07

And my friends are very close too.

0:35:070:35:09

The main thing I've always remembered with this work is

0:35:090:35:12

it's a job and it's great fun, it's great being on the shows and

0:35:120:35:15

travelling around the world, but if it finishes, I'll do something else.

0:35:150:35:19

It's an opportunity not many people get.

0:35:190:35:22

-So I'm enjoying it.

-You have to keep your feet on the ground.

0:35:220:35:25

It will become increasingly hard to,

0:35:250:35:28

because you're going to probably get more famous, not less so.

0:35:280:35:32

-I hope so.

-Apart from the little rule

0:35:330:35:35

and having your family around you,

0:35:350:35:37

who is the greatest inspiration to you?

0:35:370:35:39

Who spurred you on to becoming an actress?

0:35:390:35:42

I don't know.

0:35:420:35:44

It's odd, I wasn't a kid of three years old that said,

0:35:440:35:47

"I'm going to be an actor or a singer." I sort of fell

0:35:470:35:51

into it by accident, really, and it's turned out for the best.

0:35:510:35:54

I was about 10 or 11 years old

0:35:540:35:56

and my mother was asked to take my younger sister in, Danielle,

0:35:560:36:00

who is four years younger than me, to an audition.

0:36:000:36:03

And, of course, I went too.

0:36:030:36:05

Otherwise there'd be a bit of arguing in the household. So...

0:36:050:36:09

And I got the part.

0:36:090:36:11

So at that age I enjoyed it, but I didn't really know what I was doing.

0:36:110:36:15

'There lies a tale of sibling rivalry.

0:36:150:36:18

'But let's not get distracted.

0:36:180:36:20

'After that little chat, we were treated to this...'

0:36:200:36:24

# Everybody's doing a brand-new dance now

0:36:240:36:28

# Come on, baby, do the loco-motion!

0:36:280:36:31

# I know you'll get to like it if you give it a chance now

0:36:310:36:35

# Come on, baby, do the loco-motion!

0:36:350:36:39

# My little baby sister can do it with me

0:36:390:36:42

# It's easier than learning your ABC

0:36:420:36:46

# So come on, come on, do the loco-motion with me!

0:36:460:36:51

# You gotta swing your hips now

0:36:510:36:54

# Come on, baby

0:36:550:36:56

# Jump up!

0:36:560:36:58

# Ooh, jump back

0:36:580:37:00

# Oh, well, I think you've got the knack

0:37:000:37:04

# Oh-oh-oh

0:37:040:37:05

# Now that you can do it, let's make a chain now

0:37:050:37:09

# Come on, baby, do the loco-motion!

0:37:090:37:12

# Chug-a, chug-a motion like a railway train now

0:37:120:37:16

# Come on, baby, do the loco-motion!

0:37:160:37:20

# Do it nice and easy, now don't lose control

0:37:200:37:23

# A little bit of rhythm and a lot of soul

0:37:230:37:27

# So come on, come on, do the loco-motion with me!

0:37:270:37:33

# The loco-motion!

0:37:330:37:34

# Come on, come on, the loco-motion!

0:37:340:37:38

# Come on, come on, the loco-motion!

0:37:380:37:42

# Come on, come on, come on, come on, come on!

0:37:420:37:46

# Move around the floor in a loco-motion

0:37:460:37:49

# Come on, baby, do the loco-motion!

0:37:490:37:53

# Do it holding hands if you got the notion

0:37:530:37:57

# Come on, baby, do the loco-motion!

0:37:570:38:00

# There's never been a dance that's so easy to do

0:38:000:38:04

# It even makes you happy when you're feeling blue

0:38:040:38:08

# So come on, come on, do the loco-motion with me!

0:38:080:38:12

# Come on, do the loco-motion

0:38:120:38:16

# Come on, do the loco-motion

0:38:160:38:20

# Come on, do the loco-motion

0:38:200:38:23

# Come on, do the loco-motion

0:38:230:38:27

# Everybody's doing a brand-new dance now

0:38:270:38:31

# Come on, baby, do the loco-motion!

0:38:310:38:34

# I know you'll get to like it if you give it a chance now

0:38:340:38:38

# Come on, baby, do the loco-motion!

0:38:380:38:41

# My little baby sister can do it with me

0:38:410:38:45

# It's easier than learning your ABC

0:38:450:38:49

# So come on, come on, do the loco-motion

0:38:490:38:53

# Come on, come on, do the loco-motion

0:38:530:38:56

# Come on, come on, do the loco-motion with me!

0:38:560:39:01

# You've gotta swing your hips now

0:39:010:39:05

# Yeah! #

0:39:050:39:07

APPLAUSE AND CHEERING

0:39:070:39:11

And finally, proof that it's a hard life being a chat-show host.

0:39:190:39:23

It's not easy coming up with all those questions, you know.

0:39:230:39:26

Especially when you're talking to Ade Edmondson

0:39:260:39:28

and he's threatening to blow you up if he doesn't like them.

0:39:280:39:31

-I've got a little surprise for you in my bag, actually.

-That's great.

0:39:310:39:34

-Thanks, Ade. Is this kind of making up for...

-Sort of.

0:39:340:39:38

..the rough time you gave me at the Grace Jones award and all,

0:39:380:39:41

for being nasty to chat-show hosts? I can't wait to see it. Thank you.

0:39:410:39:43

Well, it's actually a bloody big bomb, in case

0:39:430:39:45

you ask any boring questions. LAUGHTER

0:39:450:39:48

-OK? So, fire away and no more boring questions, Terry!

-Right, so!

0:39:480:39:52

So what have you been up to since we last saw you?

0:39:520:39:55

-That's not boring. It's not boring.

-It's really boring.

0:39:550:39:58

-Just have to get that out here.

-It's not a boring one. That wasn't...

0:39:580:40:01

It was VERY boring.

0:40:010:40:03

They always ask that. You ask that of everybody. One detonator.

0:40:030:40:06

-One stick of dynamite.

-Different tactic... Tell me...

0:40:080:40:11

Which side's the heart?

0:40:110:40:13

-OK, fire away and no more boring questions.

-All right.

0:40:160:40:18

So...

0:40:190:40:22

Erm...

0:40:220:40:24

I will proceed with a different tack, then, if I may. If I may?

0:40:240:40:27

-What are you up to at the moment?

-Ah, fascinating!

0:40:270:40:30

Wonderfully interesting question. Lucky, lucky. Well...

0:40:300:40:34

We've just finished a series for the BBC. Wonderful company.

0:40:340:40:38

-Yes, they are.

-You like them, don't you?

-Nice people.

0:40:380:40:41

-Nice people to do business with.

-It's a series.

0:40:410:40:44

It's a sitcom called Filthy, Rich And Cat Flap.

0:40:440:40:46

It's rather a good title.

0:40:490:40:51

It's about three characters called, ironically,

0:40:510:40:55

Filthy, Rich and Cat Flap.

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There's Filthy. Ralph Filthy. Played by Nigel Planer.

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He's a sort of broken-down, pornographic theatrical agent.

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A little... No.

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There's Richie Rich, who... Filthy Ralph represents.

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And Richie Rich is a sort of broken-down celebrity has-been who

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never was. And there's me, Edward Cat Flap. And I play, well...

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No-one knows what I play, really.

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I just do all the "F rhyming with art" gags.

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-Yeah. But they're nice ones to do. It suits you.

-Yes.

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The whole show is based on sort of celebrities,

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-like the people you have on your show.

-You're a kind of minor

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-celebrity yourself, aren't you?

-Yes.

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-A small celebrity.

-Ours is more about celebrities like...

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-the golfers.

-Yeah.

-The golfing celebrities.

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Nicholas Parsons, you always give him a rough time.

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That vast army of ex-stand-up comedians who did one half-funny

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gag on Sunday Night At The London Palladium in the middle '60s

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and been earning a fortune doing game shows ever since.

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"Your name is Cynthia and you'd like me

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"to patronise and humiliate you on the chance of winning a Teasmaid."

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-Cheeky chappies. Blinking thingies, if you ask me.

-Really? Blinking?

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Sorry. Faux pas! Terry used to do his own game show!

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Then, you were never funny in the first place, Terry.

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No, I'm sorry, you were never a comedian, sorry. I've got to be nice.

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I've got to be nice. No rude words. Carry on.

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-Now, you've had a number one, haven't you?

-Yeah.

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Ooh-er, sounds a bit rude!

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-Haven't you done a record with Cliff?

-Oh, yes, the record.

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I've had one of those as well.

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-But he seems a bit upset by the video, doesn't he?

-Yes, apparently.

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-Another blasphemy charge.

-Oh, no.

-I don't quite follow it.

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Do you follow it?

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No, I'm trying to think of interesting questions for you.

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-You better. It's still here.

-You've written this book.

-I certainly have.

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What's it called, Terry?

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-I don't know what it's called.

-They know what it's called.

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I know what it's called. I'm not going

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to have to say what it's called.

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No, because it's not a plugging show, this.

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No, of course it's not a plugging show.

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Of course it isn't. Plug, plug, plug. I'm here to plug my book.

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I'm not here for any other reason. Not any.

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Last time, did I get invited out to dinner? No!

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No chance getting friendly with Terry, is there?

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-It's "Come on and plug your book."

-Can I...?

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I'll ask you probably the most interesting question.

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A lot of fun at the Edmondson household.

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Who makes the jokes, between you and Jennifer and everybody?

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-People would love to know that.

-That's the boring question.

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5, 4, 3, 2, 1!

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THE BOMB "DETONATES"

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LAUGHTER AND APPLAUSE

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Well, it's as good a cue as any. We're going out on a big bang.

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But I'll be back with more next time. I hope to see you then.

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