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It went out three nights a week live, | 0:00:02 | 0:00:04 | |
with a live audience and everyone who was anyone dropping in, | 0:00:04 | 0:00:09 | |
the great and the good, the bad and the ugly, and they called it Wogan. | 0:00:09 | 0:00:13 | |
I never knew why! | 0:00:14 | 0:00:15 | |
So, if you're sitting comfortably, | 0:00:15 | 0:00:18 | |
I'll show you something I made earlier. | 0:00:18 | 0:00:20 | |
God knows what they'll make of us in 25 years' time! | 0:00:20 | 0:00:22 | |
Greetings. | 0:00:35 | 0:00:37 | |
Today, we're focusing on big names from the small screen, | 0:00:37 | 0:00:40 | |
the stars who spent an inordinate amount of time, | 0:00:40 | 0:00:43 | |
almost as much as myself, being beamed into your living rooms | 0:00:43 | 0:00:47 | |
and onto the box at which even now you are goggling, | 0:00:47 | 0:00:51 | |
including Kylie Minogue, Dudley Moore, Leonard Nimoy, | 0:00:51 | 0:00:56 | |
Colin Baker and Ade Edmondson. | 0:00:56 | 0:00:58 | |
First of all, a bunch of doddery old fools obsessed with beating | 0:00:59 | 0:01:04 | |
the Germans. No, not the heads of the English Football Association. | 0:01:04 | 0:01:08 | |
It's the Home Guard heroes from Walmington-on-Sea, | 0:01:08 | 0:01:11 | |
the cast of Dad's Army, in the shape of Clive Dunn, Bill Pertwee | 0:01:11 | 0:01:16 | |
and that stupid boy Ian Lavender. | 0:01:16 | 0:01:20 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:01:20 | 0:01:22 | |
You're welcome. | 0:01:38 | 0:01:40 | |
-It's a nice thing to celebrate, the 20th anniversary, isn't it? -It is. | 0:01:40 | 0:01:44 | |
I know you've come from Portugal, Jonesey, to be with us. | 0:01:44 | 0:01:46 | |
Yes, I'm not supposed to be here at all, really. | 0:01:46 | 0:01:49 | |
I reckon that if I was alive today... I'd be 118! | 0:01:49 | 0:01:56 | |
Now, Dad's Army brought together a very professional team of actors. | 0:01:59 | 0:02:04 | |
Were you wary of each other in the way that actors are of each | 0:02:04 | 0:02:07 | |
-other's professional skills? -I think probably yes, I think so. | 0:02:07 | 0:02:12 | |
When I joined, I came from the other side of the fence. | 0:02:12 | 0:02:17 | |
There's always a few from the other side! | 0:02:17 | 0:02:20 | |
I'd done a lot of variety and summer shows. | 0:02:20 | 0:02:22 | |
Clive had also done some variety, | 0:02:22 | 0:02:24 | |
but I think the majority of the cast were a little bit wary of me. | 0:02:24 | 0:02:28 | |
What has David brought this lunatic in for? | 0:02:28 | 0:02:30 | |
-From variety rather than the theatre. -That's right. | 0:02:30 | 0:02:34 | |
And of course, you were just out of acting school. | 0:02:34 | 0:02:36 | |
Just, six months. | 0:02:36 | 0:02:37 | |
That must have been fairly horrific for you, | 0:02:37 | 0:02:40 | |
because these established performers... | 0:02:40 | 0:02:42 | |
Horrific, no, but terrifying. | 0:02:42 | 0:02:45 | |
I'd done six months in rep and I'd done one television play. | 0:02:45 | 0:02:49 | |
I can truthfully say that I got the job, before David comes on, | 0:02:51 | 0:02:56 | |
that I got the job because my agent was sleeping with the director. | 0:02:56 | 0:03:00 | |
-Be quiet! -Good man. As good a reason as any. | 0:03:00 | 0:03:03 | |
They've got six children and 35 grandchildren as well, | 0:03:03 | 0:03:06 | |
but that was the start and how I met David and so on. | 0:03:06 | 0:03:10 | |
I arrived for the filming on the first day | 0:03:10 | 0:03:14 | |
and I was used to getting digs in rep and nobody had mentioned | 0:03:14 | 0:03:19 | |
hotels, so I assumed we were going away for the day. | 0:03:19 | 0:03:21 | |
I arrived at Television Centre, everybody's got a suitcase, | 0:03:21 | 0:03:24 | |
so I had to go home again and get some clothes. | 0:03:24 | 0:03:26 | |
And there they were, gods. | 0:03:26 | 0:03:28 | |
Except for Bill Pertwee, he wasn't a god at all. He was from variety. | 0:03:29 | 0:03:32 | |
Were they kind...? | 0:03:32 | 0:03:34 | |
BLOWS BUGLE | 0:03:34 | 0:03:37 | |
What are you blowing that for?! | 0:03:39 | 0:03:41 | |
They don't work if you suck them! | 0:03:41 | 0:03:43 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:03:47 | 0:03:49 | |
-Did you...? -Pardon? What? -I feel like Captain Mainwaring now. | 0:03:54 | 0:04:00 | |
Did you say yes to that part immediately, the part of Corporal Jones? | 0:04:01 | 0:04:06 | |
Oh, no. I didn't say yes. No, no, I waited at least three minutes. | 0:04:06 | 0:04:11 | |
No, to be honest I'd just been in a show that I wasn't very good in | 0:04:13 | 0:04:16 | |
and thought, "I don't want to go in another show | 0:04:16 | 0:04:19 | |
"I'm not very good in," so I waited a minute and asked my wife, | 0:04:19 | 0:04:23 | |
because she tells me what to do, and then I asked John Le Mesurier | 0:04:23 | 0:04:26 | |
and he said, "I think I'm going to do it," | 0:04:26 | 0:04:28 | |
and when he said he'd do it, I did it and we all done it. | 0:04:28 | 0:04:30 | |
-And you all done it very well. -Can I play you a tune, please? | 0:04:32 | 0:04:34 | |
I wish you wouldn't. | 0:04:34 | 0:04:36 | |
-I didn't tell you about when I was in North Africa, did I? -No. | 0:04:36 | 0:04:41 | |
No. Have you got an hour or two? | 0:04:41 | 0:04:43 | |
Anyway, me and my friend, | 0:04:45 | 0:04:47 | |
because I had a lot of friends out there, as you can imagine, | 0:04:47 | 0:04:49 | |
we were in the place there with the desert | 0:04:49 | 0:04:52 | |
and an officer came in and said, | 0:04:52 | 0:04:53 | |
"General Gordon wants to be relieved!" And I thought, | 0:04:53 | 0:04:57 | |
"That sounds like a nice job," so I said, "I'd like to | 0:04:57 | 0:04:59 | |
"volunteer to relieve General Gordon." He said, | 0:04:59 | 0:05:02 | |
"You'll have to join the Camel Corps." | 0:05:02 | 0:05:04 | |
Well, that was bad news for me and my mate, because we didn't | 0:05:04 | 0:05:06 | |
like camels, they dribble a lot and give you psoriasis of the elbows. | 0:05:06 | 0:05:10 | |
He said, "You've got to have a medical exam..." | 0:05:12 | 0:05:15 | |
I'm being as quick as I can! | 0:05:15 | 0:05:17 | |
My friend went in and had a medical exam and the doctor said, | 0:05:18 | 0:05:21 | |
"You needn't go in the Camel Corps." He came out and said, | 0:05:21 | 0:05:24 | |
"I'm not going out because I have to wear this truss." | 0:05:24 | 0:05:27 | |
So I said, "Can I borrow it, please?" | 0:05:27 | 0:05:29 | |
So he lent me the truss and I went in and the doctor said, | 0:05:29 | 0:05:33 | |
"You've got to go in the Camel Corps." I said, "Why?" He said, | 0:05:33 | 0:05:36 | |
"How long have you worn that?" So I told a little white lie, I said, | 0:05:36 | 0:05:39 | |
"About six years." He said, "You're definitely going in the Camel Corps. | 0:05:39 | 0:05:43 | |
"Anyone who can wear a truss upside down for six years can ride a camel!" | 0:05:43 | 0:05:47 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:05:47 | 0:05:48 | |
BLOWS BUGLE | 0:05:48 | 0:05:50 | |
A blast from the past from Corporal Jones there. | 0:05:52 | 0:05:55 | |
And now someone even more musically gifted than Clive Dunn... | 0:05:55 | 0:05:59 | |
the wonderful Dudley Moore. | 0:06:00 | 0:06:01 | |
Not only one of my favourite and funniest guests, | 0:06:01 | 0:06:05 | |
but a terrific piano player. Real talent. | 0:06:05 | 0:06:09 | |
HE PLAYS VARIATIONS OF THE COLONEL BOGEY MARCH | 0:06:22 | 0:06:25 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:09:48 | 0:09:50 | |
Wonderful. | 0:10:04 | 0:10:06 | |
1,000 different ways with Colonel Bogey. | 0:10:12 | 0:10:14 | |
HE PANTS | 0:10:16 | 0:10:18 | |
Yes, oh, yes. | 0:10:19 | 0:10:20 | |
I can't... I wrote that 30 years ago, I can't believe I'm still playing it! | 0:10:20 | 0:10:26 | |
-I must be nuts. -It's wonderful. Thank you for doing it for us. | 0:10:26 | 0:10:30 | |
Thank you, it was fun. | 0:10:30 | 0:10:32 | |
When you were in New York... | 0:10:32 | 0:10:33 | |
This whole programme involves looking back in time, so we've | 0:10:38 | 0:10:42 | |
obviously got to include TV's greatest time traveller, the Doctor. | 0:10:42 | 0:10:47 | |
Who? Well, when the Tardis dropped into Shepherd's Bush, | 0:10:47 | 0:10:52 | |
he had taken on the form of the sixth Doctor. | 0:10:52 | 0:10:55 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:10:58 | 0:10:59 | |
The Doctor! | 0:10:59 | 0:11:01 | |
Doctor. | 0:11:01 | 0:11:05 | |
-Number six... -AUDIENCE MEMBER SHOUTS | 0:11:09 | 0:11:12 | |
Number six in the long 23-year-old line that started | 0:11:12 | 0:11:16 | |
in black and white with William Hartnell. Colin Baker, Doctor Who. | 0:11:16 | 0:11:20 | |
-Is this the planet Shepherd's Bush? -It is indeed, sir. | 0:11:27 | 0:11:30 | |
-Good to see you. -I'll turn into me now. -Good man. | 0:11:30 | 0:11:32 | |
Dressed for the occasion, Doctor. | 0:11:32 | 0:11:34 | |
-You're not scared of monsters, are you? -No! | 0:11:34 | 0:11:37 | |
-I've been to the BBC canteen. -Of course. -Nothing can frighten me. | 0:11:37 | 0:11:42 | |
Are any of your family scared? | 0:11:42 | 0:11:43 | |
Because I know you've got various little ones. | 0:11:43 | 0:11:46 | |
Are they terrified of the monsters? | 0:11:46 | 0:11:48 | |
Do they look out for you when you have to deal with them? | 0:11:48 | 0:11:50 | |
The one who is most frightened, I have to say, is my own wife, | 0:11:50 | 0:11:53 | |
who actually wouldn't come to the studio when we had the Daleks there. | 0:11:53 | 0:11:57 | |
She's a grown woman and should know better, | 0:11:57 | 0:11:58 | |
but she's terrified of Daleks. | 0:11:58 | 0:12:00 | |
And I have told her that they're not always real. | 0:12:00 | 0:12:02 | |
Occasionally, there is one with a little man running around inside. | 0:12:02 | 0:12:06 | |
Why is the old Tardis a blue police box? | 0:12:06 | 0:12:08 | |
Maybe there's some people who know the answer, | 0:12:08 | 0:12:11 | |
but I've been watching it man and boy, | 0:12:11 | 0:12:13 | |
and I've never really understood why it's a police callbox, the Tardis. | 0:12:13 | 0:12:18 | |
Well, 23 years ago when it started, | 0:12:18 | 0:12:20 | |
-when you were much too young to watch it... -No, I was there. | 0:12:20 | 0:12:23 | |
..William Hartnell arrived in London in his police box, the Tardis, | 0:12:23 | 0:12:30 | |
and it had a thing called the chameleon circuit which didn't work | 0:12:30 | 0:12:33 | |
properly and it was supposed to make the outside of his time machine | 0:12:33 | 0:12:38 | |
look exactly right in its surroundings, | 0:12:38 | 0:12:40 | |
so in London, fine, police box, but then the chameleon circuit broke | 0:12:40 | 0:12:44 | |
and it has been stuck like that ever since. | 0:12:44 | 0:12:46 | |
I never knew the historical antecedence of it. | 0:12:46 | 0:12:49 | |
So that's the reason. | 0:12:49 | 0:12:50 | |
-In America, Doctor Who is a cult series, isn't it? -Yes. | 0:12:50 | 0:12:53 | |
It's not known to the man in the street. | 0:12:53 | 0:12:56 | |
I mean, I can walk down the street in New York and nobody will say, | 0:12:56 | 0:12:59 | |
"Aren't you the Doctor?" | 0:12:59 | 0:13:01 | |
But it's shown on the public service networks at 11 o'clock every night. | 0:13:01 | 0:13:06 | |
I met a fellow on a plane last year, an American, | 0:13:06 | 0:13:08 | |
who was a terrific fan of Doctor Who. | 0:13:08 | 0:13:11 | |
There are Doctor Who conventions and things. Do you go over to America? | 0:13:11 | 0:13:15 | |
-I do. -And greet them? -Those who watch it are absolutely potty about it. | 0:13:15 | 0:13:19 | |
Here, you might get 1% of the people who watch the programme | 0:13:19 | 0:13:22 | |
who are Fans, with a capital F, but over in the States, | 0:13:22 | 0:13:25 | |
90% of those who watch it are besotted by it, | 0:13:25 | 0:13:28 | |
so you go to conventions in the most extraordinary places, | 0:13:28 | 0:13:31 | |
university towns, all over the States and thousands of people | 0:13:31 | 0:13:34 | |
turn up to touch the hem of the Doctor's garment. | 0:13:34 | 0:13:37 | |
Isn't it strange, though, after the sophistication of Star Wars | 0:13:37 | 0:13:40 | |
and all the rest of it and special effects | 0:13:40 | 0:13:43 | |
that are ultra-sophisticated on film, that this Doctor Who which, | 0:13:43 | 0:13:48 | |
apart from the appearing and disappearing box, the effects | 0:13:48 | 0:13:53 | |
aren't all that good? What do you think the real appeal is? | 0:13:53 | 0:13:56 | |
I think that is part of the appeal, actually. | 0:13:56 | 0:13:58 | |
It's the fact that it has always been very English, | 0:13:58 | 0:14:02 | |
it's been Plasticine and bits of string | 0:14:02 | 0:14:05 | |
and you can't summon up some piece of hi-tech equipment to get you | 0:14:05 | 0:14:08 | |
out of a terrible situation, you have to rely on ingenuity. | 0:14:08 | 0:14:11 | |
And because the budgets, quite frankly, aren't the size. | 0:14:11 | 0:14:14 | |
I mean, a special effect in Star Wars would pay for an entire | 0:14:14 | 0:14:16 | |
series of Doctor Who, but I think that can work to a programme's | 0:14:16 | 0:14:19 | |
benefit and I think it would be a mistake now for Doctor Who to | 0:14:19 | 0:14:22 | |
try and compete with the hi-tech series. | 0:14:22 | 0:14:25 | |
More science fiction now. | 0:14:25 | 0:14:27 | |
Prepare yourself for Spock in specs and without the pointy ears. | 0:14:27 | 0:14:32 | |
The star of the Star Trek series and films | 0:14:32 | 0:14:35 | |
beamed down to the Wogan studio in 1989 | 0:14:35 | 0:14:38 | |
and I promptly got his name wrong. | 0:14:38 | 0:14:41 | |
Welcome, Lemon... Lemon?! Leonard Nimoy! | 0:14:42 | 0:14:46 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:14:46 | 0:14:48 | |
You'd think we didn't rehearse this show. Lemon Nimoy! | 0:15:02 | 0:15:05 | |
-That is well done. -Leonard Nimoy. | 0:15:05 | 0:15:07 | |
Do you mind us still seeing you as Spock? | 0:15:08 | 0:15:11 | |
-No, I expect it will go on for as long as I live. -You don't resent it? | 0:15:11 | 0:15:16 | |
I've gone through some good and bad times with it, | 0:15:16 | 0:15:20 | |
but I've made peace with it. | 0:15:20 | 0:15:22 | |
I haven't wanted for work ever since Spock came into my life, | 0:15:22 | 0:15:25 | |
so I'm OK about it. | 0:15:25 | 0:15:26 | |
But sometimes actors say, "Oh, I'm tied to this," | 0:15:26 | 0:15:29 | |
but of course, it's not true in your case. | 0:15:29 | 0:15:32 | |
No, I've had a lot of other kinds of work | 0:15:32 | 0:15:36 | |
and I've had the opportunity to start a directing career | 0:15:36 | 0:15:39 | |
as a result of it, so I feel very comfortable with it. | 0:15:39 | 0:15:42 | |
And I am still playing Spock. | 0:15:42 | 0:15:43 | |
We just made Star Trek V just before I left the States. | 0:15:43 | 0:15:46 | |
-Not another one? -Yeah, another one. | 0:15:46 | 0:15:49 | |
How far do you think old Spock affected your personality? | 0:15:49 | 0:15:53 | |
I think a lot. | 0:15:53 | 0:15:54 | |
In terms of functioning logically, thinking logically, I think a lot. | 0:15:54 | 0:16:01 | |
I think that I was much more emotionally directed rather | 0:16:01 | 0:16:05 | |
than logically directed before I started playing the character. | 0:16:05 | 0:16:08 | |
As a matter of fact, Spock, when I first started playing him | 0:16:08 | 0:16:11 | |
was a much more emotional character than he is now. | 0:16:11 | 0:16:13 | |
Great fun to do, of course, but as far as your emotions went, you still | 0:16:13 | 0:16:17 | |
lost control of them, you weren't like Spock as far as that went? | 0:16:17 | 0:16:21 | |
-Personally, you mean? -Yeah. -Only on Sunday. | 0:16:21 | 0:16:23 | |
You called your autobiography I Am Not Spock, | 0:16:23 | 0:16:26 | |
which would lead one to believe that you were trying to get away from it. | 0:16:26 | 0:16:30 | |
It was a mistake, it was a mistake. | 0:16:30 | 0:16:32 | |
Around the early '70s, I guess it was, I wrote this book, | 0:16:32 | 0:16:38 | |
an autobiography, and during the course of writing it, | 0:16:38 | 0:16:41 | |
I had an experience in an airport, San Francisco. A lady recognised me. | 0:16:41 | 0:16:46 | |
She had with her a five- or six-year-old child and she | 0:16:46 | 0:16:49 | |
brought him over in front of me and she said, "Johnny, look who is here. | 0:16:49 | 0:16:52 | |
"This is the person you love, you watch him every week." And Johnny | 0:16:52 | 0:16:55 | |
looked at me and I'm standing there looking much like this. | 0:16:55 | 0:16:58 | |
And he's staring at me and there was no recognition. | 0:16:58 | 0:17:00 | |
She said, "You know who that is, that's your favourite | 0:17:00 | 0:17:03 | |
"person on television." He's looking at me and there's no response. | 0:17:03 | 0:17:07 | |
She said, "That's Mr Spock!" And he wouldn't buy it, | 0:17:07 | 0:17:11 | |
because I had the glasses and the hair was wrong and I didn't have the | 0:17:11 | 0:17:14 | |
right clothes on and what would Spock be doing in San Francisco airport? | 0:17:14 | 0:17:17 | |
-And the ears! -And the ears were wrong. -Not that much, though! | 0:17:17 | 0:17:20 | |
You get the point. | 0:17:20 | 0:17:22 | |
So she was right and she was wrong. | 0:17:24 | 0:17:27 | |
What she was saying to him was this is the actor who plays Mr Spock. | 0:17:27 | 0:17:30 | |
She was jumping in language, she'd made that leap, | 0:17:30 | 0:17:32 | |
but he couldn't make that leap and he couldn't make the connection. | 0:17:32 | 0:17:35 | |
So I wrote about this incident as a way of describing | 0:17:35 | 0:17:39 | |
the difference between character identity, | 0:17:39 | 0:17:42 | |
the reality between who I am and who this character is that I play, | 0:17:42 | 0:17:45 | |
and when it came time to title the book, | 0:17:45 | 0:17:47 | |
we thought we'd like to have Spock's name in the title | 0:17:47 | 0:17:49 | |
so people would know it was about me and Star Trek and Spock, | 0:17:49 | 0:17:52 | |
and I didn't think Spock And I was very exciting, | 0:17:52 | 0:17:56 | |
or My Friend Spock, so I said to the publisher, | 0:17:56 | 0:17:59 | |
"Why don't we use the title of that chapter I Am Not Spock | 0:17:59 | 0:18:02 | |
"as the title of the book?" He said, "Books with negative titles | 0:18:02 | 0:18:05 | |
"don't sell very well." I said, "What about Gone With The Wind?" | 0:18:05 | 0:18:09 | |
"If that's what you want, that's what we'll do." | 0:18:11 | 0:18:13 | |
So we titled it I Am Not Spock. | 0:18:13 | 0:18:15 | |
A lot of people read the title, didn't read the book | 0:18:15 | 0:18:17 | |
and assumed that what I was doing was rejecting the Spock character, | 0:18:17 | 0:18:20 | |
which wasn't the case. | 0:18:20 | 0:18:21 | |
Now Star Trek III and IV were tremendous blockbusters. | 0:18:21 | 0:18:26 | |
Better than I and II, do you think? | 0:18:26 | 0:18:29 | |
Star Trek I did extremely well. Star Trek II fell off somewhat. | 0:18:29 | 0:18:32 | |
With Star Trek III and IV, we started climbing back up | 0:18:32 | 0:18:36 | |
again. I think Star Trek IV has done the best of all of them. | 0:18:36 | 0:18:38 | |
It's been terrific for you, hasn't it? | 0:18:38 | 0:18:40 | |
Did you make it a condition that you wouldn't do III and IV | 0:18:40 | 0:18:44 | |
-unless you were allowed to direct? -No, not really. | 0:18:44 | 0:18:48 | |
I wasn't that crass about it, a little bit more gentle than that. | 0:18:48 | 0:18:52 | |
You got your agent to say it? | 0:18:52 | 0:18:53 | |
No, I had some very interesting conversations with the people | 0:18:55 | 0:18:58 | |
at Paramount and what I said to them was, "You have two problems. | 0:18:58 | 0:19:01 | |
"You need somebody to play Spock | 0:19:01 | 0:19:03 | |
"and you need somebody to direct the picture | 0:19:03 | 0:19:05 | |
"and I can solve both your problems." And that's the way it worked out. | 0:19:05 | 0:19:09 | |
-It was OK. -That's very shrewdly put. You don't get one without the other. | 0:19:09 | 0:19:13 | |
It can't be easy to direct yourself, though. | 0:19:13 | 0:19:15 | |
-It must be virtually impossible. -It's hard. | 0:19:15 | 0:19:18 | |
It's easier when you've been playing the character for many years | 0:19:18 | 0:19:21 | |
and you know who this character is, but it's physically very hard. | 0:19:21 | 0:19:25 | |
The Spock make-up takes two hours every morning, | 0:19:25 | 0:19:28 | |
so if I had to be at work at 7am as the director of the picture, | 0:19:28 | 0:19:31 | |
I had to report to work at 5am to start getting the make-up on, | 0:19:31 | 0:19:34 | |
get out of the make-up chair at seven and become a director. | 0:19:34 | 0:19:36 | |
It's a long day. | 0:19:36 | 0:19:37 | |
Tell me why III and IV, do you think, from your point | 0:19:37 | 0:19:41 | |
of view at least, why you thought they were more successful? | 0:19:41 | 0:19:45 | |
I think when the first Star Trek movie was made, whenever it was, | 0:19:45 | 0:19:48 | |
1979, 1980, there was a sense that we could not have fun. | 0:19:48 | 0:19:53 | |
It was the first time we were making Star Trek in something like 11 years | 0:19:53 | 0:19:59 | |
and the sense was Stanley Kubrick made a very important film called 2001. | 0:19:59 | 0:20:04 | |
If you want to be important, you've got to be serious | 0:20:04 | 0:20:06 | |
and do it very ponderously, which we did. | 0:20:06 | 0:20:10 | |
And it wasn't a heck of a lot of fun. | 0:20:10 | 0:20:12 | |
We began to have fun again with Star Trek II, | 0:20:12 | 0:20:14 | |
more with III and still more with IV. | 0:20:14 | 0:20:16 | |
You've just done Star Trek V. | 0:20:16 | 0:20:19 | |
Are there any surprises in that, any controversies? | 0:20:19 | 0:20:22 | |
Well, it's called The Final Frontier, not | 0:20:22 | 0:20:24 | |
because it's the final film, by any means. | 0:20:24 | 0:20:26 | |
I think we'll be doing these films until we are in wheelchairs. | 0:20:26 | 0:20:28 | |
You hope! | 0:20:28 | 0:20:30 | |
Bill Shatner directed it | 0:20:31 | 0:20:32 | |
and it's different from the ones we've done in the past. | 0:20:32 | 0:20:35 | |
I think it's a lot of fun. | 0:20:35 | 0:20:36 | |
He is a much more physical director, a much more physical guy than I am. | 0:20:36 | 0:20:40 | |
I like to play Spock as a thoughtful person who doesn't have to do | 0:20:40 | 0:20:43 | |
a lot of running and jumping and punching people. | 0:20:43 | 0:20:46 | |
He pinches people's necks to avoid the slug-out. | 0:20:46 | 0:20:51 | |
Shatner is a very physical guy, so you do a lot more running | 0:20:51 | 0:20:55 | |
and jumping in a Shatner film. | 0:20:55 | 0:20:57 | |
Well, we look forward to seeing Mr Spock jumping about. | 0:20:57 | 0:20:59 | |
In the meantime, it's been a great pleasure to talk to you. | 0:20:59 | 0:21:02 | |
-Leonard Nimoy. -Thank you. | 0:21:02 | 0:21:04 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:21:04 | 0:21:06 | |
Live long and prosper. That was Spock's catchphrase. | 0:21:14 | 0:21:17 | |
And someone who clearly lives by the same motto is Lulu, | 0:21:17 | 0:21:21 | |
a little lady with a big, big voice, who marked 25 years in showbiz | 0:21:21 | 0:21:25 | |
with this marvellous medley of her biggest hits. | 0:21:25 | 0:21:28 | |
# Don't have a lot, but with me that's fine | 0:21:37 | 0:21:40 | |
# Whatever I got, well, I know it's mine | 0:21:43 | 0:21:46 | |
# You know that I'm thinking about you, baby | 0:21:48 | 0:21:51 | |
# You better know before you come along | 0:21:54 | 0:21:57 | |
# The boat that I row won't cross no ocean | 0:21:57 | 0:22:00 | |
# The boat that I row won't get me there soon | 0:22:00 | 0:22:03 | |
# But I got the love and if you got the notion | 0:22:03 | 0:22:06 | |
# The boat that I row's big enough for two | 0:22:06 | 0:22:08 | |
# I'm a tiger, I'm a tiger | 0:22:10 | 0:22:13 | |
# I'm a tiger, I'm a tiger | 0:22:13 | 0:22:17 | |
# I'm a tiger, I'm a tiger | 0:22:17 | 0:22:20 | |
# I'm a tiger, I'm a tiger | 0:22:20 | 0:22:24 | |
# Oh, no, not me | 0:22:28 | 0:22:32 | |
# I never lost control | 0:22:32 | 0:22:36 | |
# You're face to face | 0:22:36 | 0:22:40 | |
# With the man who sold the world | 0:22:40 | 0:22:44 | |
# Those schoolgirl days | 0:22:49 | 0:22:52 | |
# Of telling tales and biting nails are gone | 0:22:52 | 0:23:02 | |
# But in the mind | 0:23:02 | 0:23:07 | |
# I know they will still live on and on | 0:23:07 | 0:23:13 | |
# Mm-hm-mm | 0:23:13 | 0:23:16 | |
# But how do you thank someone | 0:23:16 | 0:23:20 | |
# Who has taken you from crayons to perfume? | 0:23:20 | 0:23:24 | |
# It isn't easy but I'll try | 0:23:27 | 0:23:33 | |
# If you wanted the sky | 0:23:35 | 0:23:37 | |
# I would write across the sky in letters | 0:23:37 | 0:23:42 | |
# That would soar a thousand feet high | 0:23:42 | 0:23:46 | |
# To sir, with love... # | 0:23:46 | 0:23:53 | |
Here it comes! | 0:23:56 | 0:23:57 | |
# Boom bang-a-bang, boom bang-a-bang when you are near | 0:23:57 | 0:24:01 | |
# Boom bang-a-bang, boom bang-a-bang loud in my ear | 0:24:01 | 0:24:04 | |
# Pounding away, pounding away, won't you be mine? | 0:24:04 | 0:24:08 | |
# Boom bang-a-bang-bang all the time | 0:24:08 | 0:24:15 | |
# We-e-e-e-e-ell! | 0:24:18 | 0:24:24 | |
# Whoo! | 0:24:24 | 0:24:26 | |
# You know you make me wanna shout | 0:24:26 | 0:24:28 | |
-# Look, my hand's jumping -Shout! | 0:24:28 | 0:24:30 | |
-# Look, my heart's thumping -Shout! | 0:24:30 | 0:24:32 | |
-# Throw my head back -Shout! | 0:24:32 | 0:24:34 | |
# Come on now | 0:24:34 | 0:24:35 | |
# Don't forget to say you will | 0:24:35 | 0:24:38 | |
# Don't forget to shout, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah | 0:24:39 | 0:24:43 | |
# Say you will, throw your head back, baby | 0:24:43 | 0:24:46 | |
# Say you will, come on, come on | 0:24:46 | 0:24:50 | |
# Say you will | 0:24:50 | 0:24:52 | |
-# Hey hey hey hey -Hey hey hey hey | 0:24:52 | 0:24:56 | |
-# Hey hey hey hey -Hey hey hey hey | 0:24:56 | 0:25:00 | |
-# Hey hey hey hey -Hey hey hey hey | 0:25:00 | 0:25:03 | |
-# Hey hey hey hey -Hey hey hey hey | 0:25:03 | 0:25:07 | |
# Shout now, jump up and shout now | 0:25:07 | 0:25:09 | |
# Everybody shout now Everybody shout now | 0:25:09 | 0:25:13 | |
# Everybody shout shout shout shout | 0:25:13 | 0:25:16 | |
# Shout shout shout shout | 0:25:16 | 0:25:18 | |
# Shout shout shout shout | 0:25:18 | 0:25:20 | |
# Shout shout shout shout | 0:25:20 | 0:25:22 | |
# Well, I feel a-a-a-all ri-i-ight! # | 0:25:22 | 0:25:36 | |
My next guest is Mario Net. Strange, I don't remember him. | 0:25:42 | 0:25:48 | |
Oh, hang on, my next guest IS a marionette. | 0:25:48 | 0:25:52 | |
A puppet. Not just any puppet, though. Parker, Lady Penelope's | 0:25:52 | 0:25:57 | |
right-hand man in Thunderbirds. | 0:25:57 | 0:26:00 | |
The left hand was presumably pulling the strings. | 0:26:00 | 0:26:03 | |
-Are you receiving me? -Hello? -Can you hear me? | 0:26:04 | 0:26:08 | |
Testing, testing, one, two, three, four. | 0:26:08 | 0:26:14 | |
-Are you receiving me? -Yes! We are receiving you loud and clear. | 0:26:14 | 0:26:20 | |
The line from Rio is terrific. | 0:26:20 | 0:26:22 | |
But tell me, it's been something like 20 years | 0:26:22 | 0:26:24 | |
since we've seen you, over 20 years | 0:26:24 | 0:26:26 | |
since you first held the nation in thrall of a Saturday morning. | 0:26:26 | 0:26:29 | |
What have you been doing? | 0:26:29 | 0:26:31 | |
After International Rescue broke up, I was asked to come out here | 0:26:31 | 0:26:35 | |
and lie low to do a bit of undercover work. | 0:26:35 | 0:26:38 | |
I've still got my contracts with those in high places, you know. | 0:26:38 | 0:26:43 | |
-You mean the sort of people who pull the strings? -Oh, yes. | 0:26:43 | 0:26:47 | |
I'm talking about the likes of Michael Grade, Billy Cotton | 0:26:47 | 0:26:51 | |
and of course, Britain's most notorious wanted bloke. | 0:26:51 | 0:26:57 | |
You don't mean to tell me that out of there in sunny Rio, | 0:26:57 | 0:27:00 | |
lying on the beach, surrounded by pina coladas, | 0:27:00 | 0:27:02 | |
you know the elusive Ronnie Biggs? | 0:27:02 | 0:27:07 | |
No, no, I'm inferring to Dirty Den. | 0:27:07 | 0:27:11 | |
I knew him when he was Disgusting Dennis, the snotty-nosed kid. | 0:27:11 | 0:27:15 | |
And he had some horrible habits then. | 0:27:15 | 0:27:18 | |
Well, if you don't mind, I think we'll draw a veil over that. | 0:27:18 | 0:27:21 | |
Tell me, you've lived out in Rio all this time. | 0:27:21 | 0:27:24 | |
The passing years seem to have treated you kindly. | 0:27:24 | 0:27:27 | |
You've even got a tan from where I'm sitting, | 0:27:27 | 0:27:29 | |
so why did you decide to re-emerge? | 0:27:29 | 0:27:31 | |
Since they issued those new videos and put me | 0:27:31 | 0:27:34 | |
and Thunderbirds back on the map, I've been thinking about writing | 0:27:34 | 0:27:38 | |
a book, a "taking the lid off, now it can be revealed" sort of book. | 0:27:38 | 0:27:45 | |
Well, that will be a racy tome, by the sound of it. | 0:27:45 | 0:27:48 | |
A sort of what-the-chauffeur-saw in written form. | 0:27:48 | 0:27:52 | |
You've hit the screw right on the nail, Mr Wogan. | 0:27:52 | 0:27:54 | |
Let's have another forthright question, | 0:27:54 | 0:27:56 | |
a question that must have crossed a million minds | 0:27:56 | 0:27:59 | |
and even perhaps provoked the odd university thesis. | 0:27:59 | 0:28:01 | |
In Thunderbirds, everyone was always saying F.A.B. | 0:28:01 | 0:28:04 | |
You know, "Mission complete, F.A.B." What does it mean? | 0:28:04 | 0:28:08 | |
Well, one night, Jeff Tracy, he liked a little drink, you know. | 0:28:08 | 0:28:13 | |
Anyway, he's just got these people out of the pit of peril | 0:28:13 | 0:28:17 | |
and he told me in conference that F.A.B. was short for fabulous. | 0:28:17 | 0:28:25 | |
Fabulous? That's it? | 0:28:27 | 0:28:28 | |
You mean, grown men have spent endless hours grappling with | 0:28:28 | 0:28:31 | |
the meaning of F.A.B. and it's simply short for fabulous? | 0:28:31 | 0:28:34 | |
I know, it's all been a bit of a storm in a teapot. | 0:28:34 | 0:28:38 | |
But that's the way the biscuit disintegrates. | 0:28:39 | 0:28:42 | |
You're a sly one, Parker. I'm beginning to see that now. | 0:28:44 | 0:28:47 | |
Let's get down to the nitty-gritty. Lady Penelope, hmm? | 0:28:47 | 0:28:51 | |
-Lady Penelope? Come on. -You know about that, do you? | 0:28:51 | 0:28:54 | |
I'm hoping to be enlightened, actually. | 0:28:54 | 0:28:57 | |
Lady Penelope, there she was, cool, aristocratic, beautiful, | 0:28:57 | 0:29:00 | |
intelligent, rich, unattached, available, all woman, attractive, | 0:29:00 | 0:29:07 | |
even to a humble chauffeur such as yourself, Parker, I suggest. | 0:29:07 | 0:29:11 | |
Say no more, Mr Wogan. | 0:29:11 | 0:29:13 | |
One night, at Lady P's mansion, it had been raining, I remember. | 0:29:13 | 0:29:20 | |
Anyway, her ladyship slipped upstairs to have a bath. | 0:29:20 | 0:29:25 | |
I'd put the Roller away | 0:29:26 | 0:29:28 | |
and I'd just made myself a nice cup of cocoa when... | 0:29:28 | 0:29:32 | |
-Yes? -PHONE RINGS | 0:29:32 | 0:29:34 | |
Excuse me. Hello? | 0:29:34 | 0:29:37 | |
Oh, it's you, milady. | 0:29:37 | 0:29:41 | |
Yes, milady. | 0:29:41 | 0:29:43 | |
No, milady. | 0:29:43 | 0:29:46 | |
Home, milady? | 0:29:46 | 0:29:50 | |
Now, milady? | 0:29:50 | 0:29:52 | |
Yes, milady. | 0:29:52 | 0:29:56 | |
-You'll never guess who that was, Mr Wogan. -I'll take a stab in the dark. | 0:29:59 | 0:30:04 | |
-Perhaps it was Lady Penelope? -Oh, no, that was the higher lady. | 0:30:04 | 0:30:11 | |
She said something about the Official Secrets Act. | 0:30:12 | 0:30:16 | |
Maybe I better forget about my book. | 0:30:16 | 0:30:20 | |
I'll have to go now. | 0:30:20 | 0:30:21 | |
Good night, Mr Wogan. | 0:30:21 | 0:30:22 | |
Good night, everybody. | 0:30:23 | 0:30:25 | |
And keep watching me on those Thunderbird videos. | 0:30:25 | 0:30:29 | |
Well, as they say in Rio, | 0:30:29 | 0:30:32 | |
buenas noches. | 0:30:32 | 0:30:33 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:30:33 | 0:30:36 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:30:36 | 0:30:40 | |
Buenas noches. | 0:30:40 | 0:30:42 | |
Now, a lady whose career could have been very different, | 0:30:43 | 0:30:46 | |
if only she'd listened to me. | 0:30:46 | 0:30:48 | |
When she came on the show, | 0:30:48 | 0:30:50 | |
we knew her best as Charlene from Neighbours. | 0:30:50 | 0:30:54 | |
But she had other ambitions. "Careful," I warned her. | 0:30:54 | 0:30:57 | |
"A pop career can be very short-lived." | 0:30:57 | 0:30:59 | |
Shows how much I know. Kylie Minogue. | 0:31:01 | 0:31:04 | |
-Minogue is an Irish name, really, isn't it? -I think so. | 0:31:04 | 0:31:07 | |
I think it might have originally come from France | 0:31:07 | 0:31:10 | |
-and then moved to Ireland. -Really? | 0:31:10 | 0:31:12 | |
And come to Australia in the potato famine. | 0:31:12 | 0:31:14 | |
Who knows? | 0:31:14 | 0:31:16 | |
-Most people have a hard enough time pronouncing it. -Kylie's a kind of... | 0:31:16 | 0:31:20 | |
We're talking about doing the little trail with you. | 0:31:20 | 0:31:23 | |
But Kylie is a kind of popular name for Australian girls. | 0:31:23 | 0:31:25 | |
Yeah, it's an Australian name and, as I say, it means boomerang. | 0:31:25 | 0:31:30 | |
I don't know if it was good or bad to admit that. | 0:31:30 | 0:31:32 | |
But, yeah, I haven't heard anyone else in any other country | 0:31:32 | 0:31:35 | |
-called Kylie. -Yeah. | 0:31:35 | 0:31:37 | |
I think they're all kind of struck dumb, they're fascinated to see you. | 0:31:37 | 0:31:40 | |
Because it is... | 0:31:40 | 0:31:42 | |
I'm just going to ask the audience - it's kind of different when you see | 0:31:42 | 0:31:45 | |
somebody in real life than when you see them on the telly? | 0:31:45 | 0:31:47 | |
-YES! -Steady. | 0:31:47 | 0:31:49 | |
I'm a constant source of disappointment. | 0:31:50 | 0:31:52 | |
But I think they'll be quite pleased with you. | 0:31:52 | 0:31:54 | |
-Oh, it's good to see you all here too. -Yeah. | 0:31:54 | 0:31:56 | |
And good to see you, Kylie. | 0:31:56 | 0:31:58 | |
APPLAUSE AND CHEERING | 0:31:58 | 0:32:00 | |
How long have you been acting? | 0:32:02 | 0:32:04 | |
I first acted when I was 11 years old, | 0:32:04 | 0:32:06 | |
in a show called The Sullivans, which I believe you've had here. | 0:32:06 | 0:32:09 | |
-That's right, we've seen it. -And, since then... | 0:32:09 | 0:32:11 | |
-I used to like The Sullivans! What's the matter with you? -Oh, sure! -Yeah. | 0:32:12 | 0:32:17 | |
-Yeah. -Who did I play? -Who did you play? -See, you don't know, do you? | 0:32:17 | 0:32:21 | |
-I can't remember, no. -I played a Dutch girl called Carla. | 0:32:21 | 0:32:24 | |
And then I did some more acting when I was about 16. | 0:32:24 | 0:32:26 | |
-And from then on, I haven't really stopped. -Yeah. We've... | 0:32:26 | 0:32:30 | |
Obviously the papers have been full of Neighbours | 0:32:30 | 0:32:33 | |
and all the characters in it. And we've had a number | 0:32:33 | 0:32:35 | |
of the characters... among them Jason Donovan, | 0:32:35 | 0:32:37 | |
with whom you have a relationship on the screen. | 0:32:37 | 0:32:40 | |
But off-screen as well? | 0:32:40 | 0:32:42 | |
Yes, we do have a relationship, but not a loving, sexual relationship. | 0:32:42 | 0:32:47 | |
-But... -Chums? -We're buddies. -Yeah. | 0:32:47 | 0:32:51 | |
So we read a lot about you and he being more than friends | 0:32:51 | 0:32:54 | |
-and "perhaps one day" and all that kind of thing. -Yes, we also read | 0:32:54 | 0:32:57 | |
that I'm anorexic and that I've had an affair... | 0:32:57 | 0:33:00 | |
Lots of things that you read. | 0:33:00 | 0:33:02 | |
-Yeah. You're not anorexic. I mean, you're quite... -I'm not. | 0:33:02 | 0:33:07 | |
No, you're not. You're quite well covered. You are. Can I...? | 0:33:07 | 0:33:11 | |
No, you're not. You're petite, as you say. | 0:33:11 | 0:33:15 | |
Bit like myself. You've just... | 0:33:15 | 0:33:17 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:33:17 | 0:33:19 | |
In the future, we read that you've left Neighbours, | 0:33:19 | 0:33:21 | |
-that you're going to leave Neighbours. -Yes... | 0:33:21 | 0:33:24 | |
But you're about 18 months in front of us in Australia? | 0:33:24 | 0:33:26 | |
Yeah, so not for a while. I'm afraid | 0:33:26 | 0:33:28 | |
you'll have to put up with me for a bit longer. | 0:33:28 | 0:33:31 | |
I left about four weeks ago and I haven't been killed off, so... | 0:33:31 | 0:33:35 | |
You could come back? | 0:33:35 | 0:33:36 | |
Yes, it's open for me to return if I wish to do so. | 0:33:36 | 0:33:39 | |
Do you feel that that's a wise thing for you to do? | 0:33:39 | 0:33:42 | |
After all, it is the whole centre of your fame. | 0:33:42 | 0:33:46 | |
I know you've made it as a singer and all that kind of thing. | 0:33:46 | 0:33:49 | |
Do you think maybe if you give up Neighbours, | 0:33:49 | 0:33:52 | |
-you'll slip away a bit? -I would hope not, but it's there for | 0:33:52 | 0:33:56 | |
me to go back if I want to, which is nice and reassuring to know. | 0:33:56 | 0:34:00 | |
At this stage, I'm really not sure. | 0:34:00 | 0:34:02 | |
I'm concentrating on the next couple of months. But, | 0:34:02 | 0:34:04 | |
-who knows, Charlene might... -You're concentrating on the singing? | 0:34:04 | 0:34:08 | |
-Yeah. -But it's as an actress, really. Do you see yourself as a singer or an actress? | 0:34:08 | 0:34:11 | |
-What do you want to be? -Both. | 0:34:11 | 0:34:14 | |
Eventually you're going to have to come down and decide | 0:34:14 | 0:34:16 | |
-to be one thing or the other? -Eventually... | 0:34:16 | 0:34:19 | |
You see, pop singing and being a hit maker, | 0:34:19 | 0:34:21 | |
-that can't last as long as being an actress. -No, true. | 0:34:21 | 0:34:24 | |
I guess with acting you can only keep on learning | 0:34:24 | 0:34:27 | |
and developing new skills. So I really don't know. | 0:34:27 | 0:34:30 | |
I can only sort of think a week ahead. | 0:34:30 | 0:34:33 | |
I'm enjoying what I'm doing at the moment | 0:34:33 | 0:34:36 | |
and I'm concentrating on singing. | 0:34:36 | 0:34:37 | |
I'll hopefully go back to acting after I've done the tour with | 0:34:37 | 0:34:41 | |
-the album. And stay in work, mainly, is my aim. -Yeah. | 0:34:41 | 0:34:45 | |
-You're 20 years of age, is that right? -Mm. | 0:34:45 | 0:34:49 | |
It's very young to have achieved the kind of fame | 0:34:49 | 0:34:52 | |
and fortune that you have achieved. | 0:34:52 | 0:34:54 | |
Has it been hard to handle? | 0:34:54 | 0:34:56 | |
Um, no, I don't think so. | 0:34:56 | 0:34:59 | |
The greatest help I have is my family, who are always there for me. | 0:34:59 | 0:35:02 | |
I still live at home. And they're very supportive and stabilising. | 0:35:02 | 0:35:07 | |
And my friends are very close too. | 0:35:07 | 0:35:09 | |
The main thing I've always remembered with this work is | 0:35:09 | 0:35:12 | |
it's a job and it's great fun, it's great being on the shows and | 0:35:12 | 0:35:15 | |
travelling around the world, but if it finishes, I'll do something else. | 0:35:15 | 0:35:19 | |
It's an opportunity not many people get. | 0:35:19 | 0:35:22 | |
-So I'm enjoying it. -You have to keep your feet on the ground. | 0:35:22 | 0:35:25 | |
It will become increasingly hard to, | 0:35:25 | 0:35:28 | |
because you're going to probably get more famous, not less so. | 0:35:28 | 0:35:32 | |
-I hope so. -Apart from the little rule | 0:35:33 | 0:35:35 | |
and having your family around you, | 0:35:35 | 0:35:37 | |
who is the greatest inspiration to you? | 0:35:37 | 0:35:39 | |
Who spurred you on to becoming an actress? | 0:35:39 | 0:35:42 | |
I don't know. | 0:35:42 | 0:35:44 | |
It's odd, I wasn't a kid of three years old that said, | 0:35:44 | 0:35:47 | |
"I'm going to be an actor or a singer." I sort of fell | 0:35:47 | 0:35:51 | |
into it by accident, really, and it's turned out for the best. | 0:35:51 | 0:35:54 | |
I was about 10 or 11 years old | 0:35:54 | 0:35:56 | |
and my mother was asked to take my younger sister in, Danielle, | 0:35:56 | 0:36:00 | |
who is four years younger than me, to an audition. | 0:36:00 | 0:36:03 | |
And, of course, I went too. | 0:36:03 | 0:36:05 | |
Otherwise there'd be a bit of arguing in the household. So... | 0:36:05 | 0:36:09 | |
And I got the part. | 0:36:09 | 0:36:11 | |
So at that age I enjoyed it, but I didn't really know what I was doing. | 0:36:11 | 0:36:15 | |
'There lies a tale of sibling rivalry. | 0:36:15 | 0:36:18 | |
'But let's not get distracted. | 0:36:18 | 0:36:20 | |
'After that little chat, we were treated to this...' | 0:36:20 | 0:36:24 | |
# Everybody's doing a brand-new dance now | 0:36:24 | 0:36:28 | |
# Come on, baby, do the loco-motion! | 0:36:28 | 0:36:31 | |
# I know you'll get to like it if you give it a chance now | 0:36:31 | 0:36:35 | |
# Come on, baby, do the loco-motion! | 0:36:35 | 0:36:39 | |
# My little baby sister can do it with me | 0:36:39 | 0:36:42 | |
# It's easier than learning your ABC | 0:36:42 | 0:36:46 | |
# So come on, come on, do the loco-motion with me! | 0:36:46 | 0:36:51 | |
# You gotta swing your hips now | 0:36:51 | 0:36:54 | |
# Come on, baby | 0:36:55 | 0:36:56 | |
# Jump up! | 0:36:56 | 0:36:58 | |
# Ooh, jump back | 0:36:58 | 0:37:00 | |
# Oh, well, I think you've got the knack | 0:37:00 | 0:37:04 | |
# Oh-oh-oh | 0:37:04 | 0:37:05 | |
# Now that you can do it, let's make a chain now | 0:37:05 | 0:37:09 | |
# Come on, baby, do the loco-motion! | 0:37:09 | 0:37:12 | |
# Chug-a, chug-a motion like a railway train now | 0:37:12 | 0:37:16 | |
# Come on, baby, do the loco-motion! | 0:37:16 | 0:37:20 | |
# Do it nice and easy, now don't lose control | 0:37:20 | 0:37:23 | |
# A little bit of rhythm and a lot of soul | 0:37:23 | 0:37:27 | |
# So come on, come on, do the loco-motion with me! | 0:37:27 | 0:37:33 | |
# The loco-motion! | 0:37:33 | 0:37:34 | |
# Come on, come on, the loco-motion! | 0:37:34 | 0:37:38 | |
# Come on, come on, the loco-motion! | 0:37:38 | 0:37:42 | |
# Come on, come on, come on, come on, come on! | 0:37:42 | 0:37:46 | |
# Move around the floor in a loco-motion | 0:37:46 | 0:37:49 | |
# Come on, baby, do the loco-motion! | 0:37:49 | 0:37:53 | |
# Do it holding hands if you got the notion | 0:37:53 | 0:37:57 | |
# Come on, baby, do the loco-motion! | 0:37:57 | 0:38:00 | |
# There's never been a dance that's so easy to do | 0:38:00 | 0:38:04 | |
# It even makes you happy when you're feeling blue | 0:38:04 | 0:38:08 | |
# So come on, come on, do the loco-motion with me! | 0:38:08 | 0:38:12 | |
# Come on, do the loco-motion | 0:38:12 | 0:38:16 | |
# Come on, do the loco-motion | 0:38:16 | 0:38:20 | |
# Come on, do the loco-motion | 0:38:20 | 0:38:23 | |
# Come on, do the loco-motion | 0:38:23 | 0:38:27 | |
# Everybody's doing a brand-new dance now | 0:38:27 | 0:38:31 | |
# Come on, baby, do the loco-motion! | 0:38:31 | 0:38:34 | |
# I know you'll get to like it if you give it a chance now | 0:38:34 | 0:38:38 | |
# Come on, baby, do the loco-motion! | 0:38:38 | 0:38:41 | |
# My little baby sister can do it with me | 0:38:41 | 0:38:45 | |
# It's easier than learning your ABC | 0:38:45 | 0:38:49 | |
# So come on, come on, do the loco-motion | 0:38:49 | 0:38:53 | |
# Come on, come on, do the loco-motion | 0:38:53 | 0:38:56 | |
# Come on, come on, do the loco-motion with me! | 0:38:56 | 0:39:01 | |
# You've gotta swing your hips now | 0:39:01 | 0:39:05 | |
# Yeah! # | 0:39:05 | 0:39:07 | |
APPLAUSE AND CHEERING | 0:39:07 | 0:39:11 | |
And finally, proof that it's a hard life being a chat-show host. | 0:39:19 | 0:39:23 | |
It's not easy coming up with all those questions, you know. | 0:39:23 | 0:39:26 | |
Especially when you're talking to Ade Edmondson | 0:39:26 | 0:39:28 | |
and he's threatening to blow you up if he doesn't like them. | 0:39:28 | 0:39:31 | |
-I've got a little surprise for you in my bag, actually. -That's great. | 0:39:31 | 0:39:34 | |
-Thanks, Ade. Is this kind of making up for... -Sort of. | 0:39:34 | 0:39:38 | |
..the rough time you gave me at the Grace Jones award and all, | 0:39:38 | 0:39:41 | |
for being nasty to chat-show hosts? I can't wait to see it. Thank you. | 0:39:41 | 0:39:43 | |
Well, it's actually a bloody big bomb, in case | 0:39:43 | 0:39:45 | |
you ask any boring questions. LAUGHTER | 0:39:45 | 0:39:48 | |
-OK? So, fire away and no more boring questions, Terry! -Right, so! | 0:39:48 | 0:39:52 | |
So what have you been up to since we last saw you? | 0:39:52 | 0:39:55 | |
-That's not boring. It's not boring. -It's really boring. | 0:39:55 | 0:39:58 | |
-Just have to get that out here. -It's not a boring one. That wasn't... | 0:39:58 | 0:40:01 | |
It was VERY boring. | 0:40:01 | 0:40:03 | |
They always ask that. You ask that of everybody. One detonator. | 0:40:03 | 0:40:06 | |
-One stick of dynamite. -Different tactic... Tell me... | 0:40:08 | 0:40:11 | |
Which side's the heart? | 0:40:11 | 0:40:13 | |
-OK, fire away and no more boring questions. -All right. | 0:40:16 | 0:40:18 | |
So... | 0:40:19 | 0:40:22 | |
Erm... | 0:40:22 | 0:40:24 | |
I will proceed with a different tack, then, if I may. If I may? | 0:40:24 | 0:40:27 | |
-What are you up to at the moment? -Ah, fascinating! | 0:40:27 | 0:40:30 | |
Wonderfully interesting question. Lucky, lucky. Well... | 0:40:30 | 0:40:34 | |
We've just finished a series for the BBC. Wonderful company. | 0:40:34 | 0:40:38 | |
-Yes, they are. -You like them, don't you? -Nice people. | 0:40:38 | 0:40:41 | |
-Nice people to do business with. -It's a series. | 0:40:41 | 0:40:44 | |
It's a sitcom called Filthy, Rich And Cat Flap. | 0:40:44 | 0:40:46 | |
It's rather a good title. | 0:40:49 | 0:40:51 | |
It's about three characters called, ironically, | 0:40:51 | 0:40:55 | |
Filthy, Rich and Cat Flap. | 0:40:55 | 0:40:57 | |
There's Filthy. Ralph Filthy. Played by Nigel Planer. | 0:40:57 | 0:41:00 | |
He's a sort of broken-down, pornographic theatrical agent. | 0:41:00 | 0:41:04 | |
A little... No. | 0:41:04 | 0:41:06 | |
There's Richie Rich, who... Filthy Ralph represents. | 0:41:06 | 0:41:11 | |
And Richie Rich is a sort of broken-down celebrity has-been who | 0:41:12 | 0:41:17 | |
never was. And there's me, Edward Cat Flap. And I play, well... | 0:41:17 | 0:41:22 | |
No-one knows what I play, really. | 0:41:22 | 0:41:24 | |
I just do all the "F rhyming with art" gags. | 0:41:24 | 0:41:27 | |
-Yeah. But they're nice ones to do. It suits you. -Yes. | 0:41:27 | 0:41:32 | |
The whole show is based on sort of celebrities, | 0:41:32 | 0:41:34 | |
-like the people you have on your show. -You're a kind of minor | 0:41:34 | 0:41:37 | |
-celebrity yourself, aren't you? -Yes. | 0:41:37 | 0:41:39 | |
-A small celebrity. -Ours is more about celebrities like... | 0:41:39 | 0:41:43 | |
-the golfers. -Yeah. -The golfing celebrities. | 0:41:43 | 0:41:46 | |
Nicholas Parsons, you always give him a rough time. | 0:41:46 | 0:41:48 | |
That vast army of ex-stand-up comedians who did one half-funny | 0:41:48 | 0:41:52 | |
gag on Sunday Night At The London Palladium in the middle '60s | 0:41:52 | 0:41:55 | |
and been earning a fortune doing game shows ever since. | 0:41:55 | 0:41:57 | |
"Your name is Cynthia and you'd like me | 0:41:57 | 0:42:00 | |
"to patronise and humiliate you on the chance of winning a Teasmaid." | 0:42:00 | 0:42:03 | |
-Cheeky chappies. Blinking thingies, if you ask me. -Really? Blinking? | 0:42:03 | 0:42:09 | |
Sorry. Faux pas! Terry used to do his own game show! | 0:42:09 | 0:42:12 | |
Then, you were never funny in the first place, Terry. | 0:42:12 | 0:42:15 | |
No, I'm sorry, you were never a comedian, sorry. I've got to be nice. | 0:42:15 | 0:42:18 | |
I've got to be nice. No rude words. Carry on. | 0:42:18 | 0:42:20 | |
-Now, you've had a number one, haven't you? -Yeah. | 0:42:20 | 0:42:23 | |
Ooh-er, sounds a bit rude! | 0:42:23 | 0:42:26 | |
-Haven't you done a record with Cliff? -Oh, yes, the record. | 0:42:26 | 0:42:28 | |
I've had one of those as well. | 0:42:28 | 0:42:30 | |
-But he seems a bit upset by the video, doesn't he? -Yes, apparently. | 0:42:30 | 0:42:34 | |
-Another blasphemy charge. -Oh, no. -I don't quite follow it. | 0:42:34 | 0:42:40 | |
Do you follow it? | 0:42:40 | 0:42:41 | |
No, I'm trying to think of interesting questions for you. | 0:42:41 | 0:42:44 | |
-You better. It's still here. -You've written this book. -I certainly have. | 0:42:44 | 0:42:49 | |
What's it called, Terry? | 0:42:49 | 0:42:51 | |
-I don't know what it's called. -They know what it's called. | 0:42:51 | 0:42:54 | |
I know what it's called. I'm not going | 0:42:54 | 0:42:56 | |
to have to say what it's called. | 0:42:56 | 0:42:58 | |
No, because it's not a plugging show, this. | 0:42:58 | 0:43:00 | |
No, of course it's not a plugging show. | 0:43:00 | 0:43:02 | |
Of course it isn't. Plug, plug, plug. I'm here to plug my book. | 0:43:02 | 0:43:05 | |
I'm not here for any other reason. Not any. | 0:43:05 | 0:43:08 | |
Last time, did I get invited out to dinner? No! | 0:43:08 | 0:43:10 | |
No chance getting friendly with Terry, is there? | 0:43:10 | 0:43:12 | |
-It's "Come on and plug your book." -Can I...? | 0:43:12 | 0:43:15 | |
I'll ask you probably the most interesting question. | 0:43:15 | 0:43:17 | |
A lot of fun at the Edmondson household. | 0:43:17 | 0:43:19 | |
Who makes the jokes, between you and Jennifer and everybody? | 0:43:19 | 0:43:23 | |
-People would love to know that. -That's the boring question. | 0:43:23 | 0:43:27 | |
5, 4, 3, 2, 1! | 0:43:27 | 0:43:31 | |
THE BOMB "DETONATES" | 0:43:31 | 0:43:33 | |
LAUGHTER AND APPLAUSE | 0:43:37 | 0:43:40 | |
Well, it's as good a cue as any. We're going out on a big bang. | 0:43:44 | 0:43:48 | |
But I'll be back with more next time. I hope to see you then. | 0:43:48 | 0:43:51 |