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Good morning. Welcome to a special programme marking Her Majesty's

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service of thanksz giving in glass -- thanksgiving service in Glasgow.

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This week, it is Scotland's turn and this morning in the

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surroundings of Glasgow Cathedral a religious celebration of the life

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of the monarch. Well, we will bring you full coverage starting with the

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arrival of the Queen accompanied by the Duke of Edinburgh. The Royal

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car is due in less than half an hour to arrive at Cathedral Tahrir

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Square which -- cathedral Square. The Royal car will be drawing up

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beside me. We have an overview of events. Later on I will be getting

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expert opinion on all matters to do with shiflery and behaviour.

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Thousands of people are taking part in garden parties in celebrations

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throughout Scotland this week, but this service here in Glasgow

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anchoring these celebrations in the West of Scotland is significant

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History, continuity, service, the core watch words today and this

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magnificent cathedral typifies all three. This majestic building. As

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we speak, you can see the Royal Company of Archers, the Queen's

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bodyguard in Scotland entering via the West Wing. They are part of

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this great service. Part of this great occasion. The choir. This

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building was founded in 1197. Consider that history, back to the

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origins of Scotland. History, continuity, service and Her

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The Queen and the Duke of Edinburgh are on schedule. There is time for

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me to introduce my guests. They will help us put into context

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the wider impact of the Queen's jubilee celebrations.

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I am joined by Professor Tom Divine and Kate Williams who has written a

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biography about the early years of the Queen's life. Here is how this

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morning will proceed. At 10.5pm, the Queen -- 10.55pm the Queen and

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the Duke of Edinburgh will arrive by car to Glasgow Cathedral. The

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service will last for over an hour. The couple will take the trip to

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George Square. Most of the congregation are settled inside

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Glasgow Cathedral and are enjoying the architecture. It really is

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impressive. Biblical figures depicted on the famous stained

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glass windows look down on the faces. We saw the advocate General

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in the UK Government. The young man there is the Duke of Hamilton. He

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is being greeted or about to be greeted by a member of the Lord

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Lion Team who he knows very well. Lord Patel and Lady Patel.

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And then another well-known face, Trisha Marwik, elected last year.

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Annabel Goldie came in behind her. There is the wife of a minister of

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the cathedral and Sir George Reid. I think we have got the entire set

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of Scotland's First Ministers here today.

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And then Lord Robertson and Lady Robertson. Lord Robertson, George

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Robertson a former Secretary- General of NATO. The Chief

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Constable of Glasgow, of the Strathclyde Police. We have all the

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forces represented today. Of course, the First Minister, Alex Salmond,

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taking some time out to meet the people as he arrived this morning.

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Now although this morning's service and the traditions upon which it

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calls are very rich in pageantry, it is less formal than the Golden

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Jubilee service in the same And here we have the choir of the

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cathedral, the congregation are waiting patiently for the service

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to begin and the Ecclesiastical Procession is underway. That's Neil

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Gardner the minister who married Zara Phillips to Mike Tindall. You

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see among the Ecclesiastical Procession some young faces. They

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are the school pupils hol lead the -- who will lead the prayers when

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the service proper gets underway. Quite a remarkable building. It had

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a Christian presence since the fifth century, but this particular

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building that you see there, the nave, this building was consecrated

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in 1197. There have been 800 years of continuous worship on this site

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and today the prayers being offered for the Queen's Diamond Jubilee.

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Let's move through from the nave to the choir where the service proper

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will take place next to where the Queen and the Duke of Edinburgh

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will sit. You see Alex Salmond and his wife there in the front row. Mr

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Salmond will read a lesson as part of the service and in praise of the

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Queen during this Diamond Jubilee. He will say the Queen has been an

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integral part of the history of our nation. The cathedral is decked out

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for the occasion. Let's glance at the flowers there. Aren't they

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remarkable, 60 flowers next to where the Queen will sit. One for

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each year of her reign. Look closely at the roses, there are

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diamonds in the centre of many of them to represent, of course, the

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Diamond Jubilee. Isn't that a gorgeous touch? It is beautiful.

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Back to the nave now where you see the Ecclesiastical Procession

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coming through in the nave. There are representatives from various

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organisations that have the Queen as their patron, but let's pick out

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a face, Mary McIlroy, she has the pink hat there. Mary has attended

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service here for some 79 years. She tells me that she is 92 years old

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and doesn't mind who knows it! She attends service every single week

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and has been here for all the Royal services, she is standing along

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with the others as the Ecclesiastical Procession comes

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through. Throughout the rest of the nave, there are organisations that

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have the Queen as their patron, support for veterans, the arts, and

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sciences and even one of those 44 organisations that include the

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Scottish Football Association. My guess is that they could use some

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advice at the present moment whether it is regal or divine! But

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all of the congregation there, whether in the choir, whether in

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the nave, they are awaitling the beginning -- awaiting the beginning

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of this service in thoughtful anticipation.

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Now, as I promised earlier, I am joined by the Royal-watcher, Roddie.

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It is like a Royal office. It sounds like I'm sitting up a

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tree with field glasses! You have written about the Royal Family and

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their relationship with Scotland. What do you think is distinctive

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about that? I think the lovely thing about the monarchy in

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Scotland, it is something we have got used to in our life times. It

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is about history and tradition. The monarchy and the Queen glues our

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nation together. It's a rather important symbolic function above

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politics, I think we are fortunate therefore to have the Queen who has

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done her duties through her 0 years with such dedication and such

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generosity and you know, we are so lucky to have her.

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Do you think that the way the services are constructed, more

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recently, for example, we understand today's service is less

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formal. Has there been a change in the levels of the formality and who

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is involved now? The ceremony is more all embracing which is a good

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thing. It is important for the Queen to be seen by her people, to

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move amongst them and for us to appreciate how splendid and

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wonderful she is. The monarchy does have this role of bringing people

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together and in the past it perhaps was a bit stuffy. It was detached.

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It was a little bit out of reach for the average punter in the

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street, now I think we don't make a big fuss about these things in

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Scotland. We like the idea of the Queen, the monarch, because she is

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one of us and that's what it is all about. She is one of us.

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What about anchoring it here in the West? How significant is that?

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Normally we associate things with St Giles in Edinburgh, but a bit

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special that today is anchored in the West? Glasgow is Scotland's

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largest city. This is where Glasgow started off with St Mungo and this

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wonderful church - it is appropriate that this is where we

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should be. Thank you so much for that.

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Jacqui, the Royal Family have a distinctive relationship with

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Scotland and that will be reflected in the nature and the style of the

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Wasn't that a nice touch on the flowers? The beginning of July is

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the time the Royal Family come to Scotland. The Queen's strong bonds

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with Scotland predate her reign, although born in England, the Queen

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Mother considered herself a a proud Scot. She instilled in her daughter

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a love of the Highlands which she has passed through her own family.

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Sally Magnusson looks back at this 1953, and after the coronation, the

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Queen came north. Slowly the Royal coach party moves

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forward. Not many folk had television, but

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they came out in their thousands to see her.

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The honours of Scotland which survived through the centuries are

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now to be offered to Her Majesty as a demonstration of the loyalty of

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her Scottish subjects. Right across the country, the

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crowds were enormous. In Glasgow, 300 people were crushed as the

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crowds surged forward. She was the glamorous new superstar monarch.

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When she smiled her face was radiant. It was just a wonderful,

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beaming, happy smile. Of course, the Queen has never been

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a stranger to Scotland. She holidayed here as a child and

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continued the tradition as monarch with annual trips to Balmoral.

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These gave her and continue to give her some much appreciated privacy

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to enjoy her family and indulge her love of the countryside. Well, the

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Queen is a local local laird. She is treated as one of the locals and

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people frequently come across her and it is well-known for people

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just to stop and have a chat. As you would with any other local.

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In her 60 years, she met thousands of Scots as she has opened new

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towns and tunnels, named bridges and launched ships. She has seen

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North Sea Oil coming ashore and done walkabouts, and inspected

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troops and been at the receiving end of more presentations than most

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of us had hot dinners! A gift of smoked haddock in a

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special box. And you can never beat a good

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haddie. She had been to parts of the country no monarch visited in

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centuries. Only 150 men, women, and children

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live here. She is very, very keen on things

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Scottish. She makes it her business to go around Scotland. Her repeat

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visits to Scotland symbolise clearly how much Scotland means to

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her and how important being the Queen of Scotland is to her as well.

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At times of national tragedy, she has paid respect to families and

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expressed the country's grief in the aftermath of the Dunblane

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shootings and those who lost their lives on the oil rig.

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She opened every session of the new Holyrood Parliament.

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In the Diamond Jubilee year, amid celebrations around the country, it

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is clear that people old and young The Queen looked at me and gave me

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a smile. And I thought I could not have sung better. It was brilliant.

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Her I admire her tremendously. Her stamina is extraordinary. She seems

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to be able to stand for hours, meeting all sorts of people. Not

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many people of her age could manage to do what she does. The remarkable

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thing about the Queen is that she has not only earned her respect

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over the last 60 years, but our affection as well. Just as her

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enthusiasm for Scotland remains undimmed, Scotts' enthusiasm for

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her shows no sign of waning either. Let's get my guests' thoughts on

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that look back at the screen -- the Queen in Scotland. Tom, what

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strikes me is the passage of time. She became Queen in another age.

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was another world. If you look at that period, rationing had just

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finished. There was a period of austerity after the Second World

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War. The Empire, apart from India, was virtually intact. And the great

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industries of the 19th century still existed. If you look at the

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present day, the workers formation would be appropriate in terms of

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the economic and social history of Scotland over the last century. And

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yet you get this remarkable thread of continuity, not simply an

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institution, but a woman who has lived through it. There is

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something deeply symbolic about that. It is one of the longest

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reigns in history that any historian can remember, possibly

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the longest. And also a period of extraordinary discontinuity. One of

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the interesting things to me is that your commentators so far have

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talked about the Queen. It would be interesting if the debate was then

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broadened out to the institution of monarchy and what will happen post

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this particular queen. We might be doing that later. But watching the

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video there and how brilliantly she fulfils the role, it is easy to

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forget that she was never meant to be Queen. That is the amazing thing.

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She is the 20th century. She was born in 1926 and lived through the

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Great Depression and the Second World War. The Second World War was

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announced when she was in Scotland. She was never meant to be Queen. It

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is only thanks to the fact that Edward VIII fell in love with

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Wallis Simpson, did not want to be King and gave the French to his

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brother, George VI, was traumatised by the idea of being king. So

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Elizabeth herself heard when she was just 10. She was at home in

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London, and the people were outside, shouting and making noise. She said

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to a footman, what is this? And he said, your uncle has abdicated and

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your father is king. And she went to Margaret and said, this is news!

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Daddy is going to be King. And Margaret said, are you going to be

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Queen, then? She said, I suppose so. And that was that. She rotaed her

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notes from her swimming lesson. -- she wrote up her notes from her

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swimming lesson. She was an organised child, and that is the

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way she has always dealt with moments of great historic change.

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She gets on with her duty. And then her life changed. We are seeing

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shots of the magnificent Glasgow Cathedral now. Bells are being run

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to herald the Queen's arrival. Religion is very important to her.

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After her life changed, this was a young girl who was schooled in

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theology by the Archbishop of Canterbury. Everything changed from

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the age of 10. Before that, she was a little girl. Her parents set, we

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just want her to have a happy life and a happy marriage. Once you are

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heir to the throne, that will be different. After she became heir to

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the throne, she was still light, but she did have religious

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instruction. There was a lot of Bible reading and me to axe but the

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archbishop. Religion is important to the Queen. She does prey, and

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she sees herself as answerable to God. That is why she will never

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abdicate. She sees herself as having been given the role by God,

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and she will not give it up. It is her duty, and there is no way she

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will be like Edward VIII and give up on it because she does not feel

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like it any more. She will be here till her last breath. Let's go back

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into the cathedral now. Is everyone in place, Brian? They are indeed.

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As the bell rings, there will be music of another kind which will

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herald the Queen's arrival. They are standing to attention, the

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trumpeters of the Royal Marines. They will play a herald welcome. In

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the choir, you see the various politicians, waiting. There are

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members of the police service and the other emergency services. It is

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also a tribute to the work they do. This is a Christian

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interdenominational service. There are various church leaders. Each

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element will be represented. They will do prayers and readings. As

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well as being a Christian service, this is an inter-faith occasion.

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Representatives of the Muslim community and Buddhist community

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are here. And at the end, there is a representative of the Greek

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Orthodox Church, all invited. In the cross itself, it is 70 years

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old, but it is attached to a pillar that is 700 years old. You can see

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the symbol of the Lamb of God. I draw this to your attention because

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it will feature in the sermon delivered by the Moderator of the

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General Assembly. The Lamb of God represents the idea of a uplift

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from Christ, the idea of triumphing over disaster. The Moderator will

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talk about that and the contemporary context with the

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difficulties Scotland and the UK are facing. As well as that sense

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of history, there are young people in the congregation, five young

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pupils from schools across Glasgow who will lead prayers as part of

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the service which marks the Diamond Jubilee of her Majesty the Queen.

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The Herald's are arriving, waiting to greet her Majesty the Queen as

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she arrives. Those young people will be leading their prayers when

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the service proper is under way. Les leave the scenes at the

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cathedral for a moment. Tom, let's discuss Scotland's relationship

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with the monarchy, as you flagged up earlier. Strong bombs have been

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forged, but they seem to have been getting stronger over recent

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generations? Are I think they will get stronger in terms of the

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persona of the current monarch. She is not only respected, but there is

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a great deal of affection for her because of the duty she has carried

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out so magnificently, especially at a time when so many of our

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authority figures elsewhere, in politics and other areas... Or we

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had the MSP scandal and the banking scenario. Exactly. And therefore,

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the establishment Writ Large has taken a battering over the last few

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years. For she stands out in this perfect storm as a figure who is

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beyond criticism. She has not put a foot wrong. There is a wonderful

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complementarity between her and her consort, Prince Philip, who tells

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the odd joke from time to time. That also highlights the Queen's

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position and the relationship between them. It is also fair to

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say that the institution of monarchy, which is one of the clues

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of Britishness, is not as strong in Scotland. Let us now leave our

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discussion, because the crowds surrounding Glasgow Cathedral are

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getting their first glimpse of the royal car. Her Majesty the Queen,

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arriving outside Glasgow Cathedral, greeted by cheering crowds, many of

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whom have been waiting for hours. I arrived early this morning, but not

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early enough to beat the crowds. They were queueing already. The

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Queen is accompanied of course by Prince Philip, the Duke of

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Edinburgh. She is greeting those who will leave the service. The

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moderator, the Minister of the Church, Dr Laurence Whitley and the

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Reverend John Cairns, the Dean of her Majesty's Chapel Royal. Her

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Apology for the loss of subtitles for 44 seconds

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Majesty now moves towards the west # All people that on earth do dwell.

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# Sing to the Lord with cheerful voice.

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# Him serve with mirth, his praise forth tell.

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# Come ye before him and rejoice. # Know that the Lord is God indeed.

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# Without our aid he doth us make. # We are his flock, he doth us feed.

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# And for his sheep he doth us take. # O enter then his gates with

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praise. # Approach with joy his courts

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unto: # Praise, laud, and bless his Name

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always. # For it is seemly so to do.

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# For why? The Lord our God is good. # His mercy is for ever sure.

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# His truth at all times firmly stood.

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# To Father, Son and Holy Ghost. # The God whom earth and heaven

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adore. # Be glory, as it was of old.

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"For I know the plans I have for you", says the Lord, "and they are

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Almighty God, you are the glory of all the nations, by your hand you

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send the planets coursing on their way and at your commanding the

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stars come out by number and yet your eye remains upon each of us,

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each of us known and loved. We gather now as a nation in

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thanksgiving and joy for the blessing you have given us in our

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Sovereign Lady, Queen Elizabeth, and that your goodness has brought

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her to this present hour. Enable us to recognise your unfolding plan

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behind the passage of these special years, a plan indeed for good.

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Forgive us if we have been heedless of the guidance and care that comes

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alone from you, which has never failed us, nor ever shall. Let

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these continue to shine and lead us onward until at length your good

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plan for all the nations comes to plan for all the nations comes to

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pass. This we ask through Jesus Christ, Our Lord, who taught us

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when we pray to say together: Our Father, which art in heaven,

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Hallowed be thy Name. Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done on earth, as

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it is in heaven. Give us this day our daily bread. And forgive us our

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trespasses, as we forgive them that trespass against us. And lead us

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not into temptation. But deliver us from evil. For thine is the kingdom,

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the power, and the glory, for ever The first lesson will be read by

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the First Minister of Scotland, Alex Salmond.

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He is being escorted to his place God is our refuge and strength, an

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ever-present help in trouble. Therefore we will not fear, though

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the earth give way and the mountains fall into the heart of

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the sea, though its waters roar and foam and the mountains quake with

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their surging.There is a river whose streams make glad the city of

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God, the holy place where the Most High dwells. God is within her, she

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will not fall. God will help her at break of day. Nations are in uproar,

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kingdoms fall. He lifts his voice, the earth melts. The Lord Almighty

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is with us. The God of Jacob is our fortress. Come and see what the

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Lord has done, the desolations he has brought on the earth. He makes

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wars cease to the ends of the earth. He breaks the bow and shatters the

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spear. He burns the shields with fire. He says, "Be still, and know

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that I am God. I will be exalted among the nations, I will be

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exalted in the earth." The Lord Almighty is with us. The God of

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Jacob is our fortress. Then the angel showed me the river of the

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water of life, as clear as crystal, flowing from the throne of God and

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of the Lamb down the middle of the great street of the city. On each

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side of the river stood the tree of life, bearing twelve crops of fruit,

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yielding its fruit every month. And the leaves of the tree are for the

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healing of the nations. No longer will there be any curse. The throne

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of God and of the Lamb will be in the city, and his servants will

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serve him. They will see his face, and his name will be on their

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foreheads. There will be no more night. They will not need the light

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of a lamp or the light of the sun, for the Lord God will give them

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light. And they will reign for ever # Tell out, my soul, the greatness

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of the Lord! # Unnumbered blessings give my

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spirit voice. # Tender to me the promise of his

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word. # In God my Saviour shall my heart

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rejoice. # Tell out, my soul, the greatness

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of his Name! # Make known his might, the deeds

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his arm has done. # His mercy sure, from age to age

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to same. # His holy Name, the Lord, the

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Mighty One. # Tell out, my soul, the greatness

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of his might! # Powers and dominions lay their

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glory by. # Proud hearts and stubborn wills

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are put to flight, # The hungry fed, the humble lifted

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high. # Tell out, my soul, the glories of

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his word! # Firm is his promise, and his

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mercy sure. # Tell out, my soul, the greatness

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of the Lord # To children's children and for

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evermore! As the sound of the hymn fades away,

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Cardinal Keith O'Brien with a reading. The gospel of St Mark.

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Then James and John, the sons of Zebedee, came to him. "Teacher,"

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they said, "We want you to do for us whatever we ask." "What do you

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want me to do for you?" he asked. They replied, "Let one of us sit at

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your right and the other at your left in your glory." "You don't

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know what you are asking," Jesus said. "Can you drink the cup I

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drink or be baptized with the baptism I am baptized with?" "We

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can," they answered. Jesus said to them, "You will drink the cup I

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drink and be baptized with the baptism I am baptized with, but to

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sit at my right or left is not for me to grant. These places belong to

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those for whom they have been prepared." When the ten heard about

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this, they became indignant with James and John. Jesus called them

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together and said, "You know that those who are regarded as rulers of

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the Gentiles lord it over them, and their high officials exercise

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authority over them. Not so with you. Instead, whoever wants to

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become great among you must be your servant, and whoever wants to be

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first must be slave of all. For even the Son of Man did not come to

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be served, but to serve, and to give his life as a ransom for

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many." The end of the gospel reading.

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And now an anthem composed for this Diamond Jubilee year by Francis

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Apology for the loss of subtitles for 44 seconds

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# The Christian plummet sounding heav'n and earth.

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# Engine against th'Almightie, sinners towre,

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# Reversed thunder, Christ-side- piercing spear,

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# The six-daies world-transposing in an houre,

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# A kinde of tune, which all things # Peace and joy

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Apology for the loss of subtitles for 44 seconds

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# And love # # Church-bels beyond the starres

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heard, the souls bloud, # The land of spices, something

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Apology for the loss of subtitles for 44 seconds

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Let us pray. Lord of all, as our Saviour intercedes for us, so we

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pray for people the world over, your whole family of nations, races

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and creeds, that accepting and rejoicing in diversity, we may find

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understanding where there was once suspicion, tolerance where there

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has been division, generosity in the face of need, peace for those

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living with the scourge of war and violence and the love of the God of

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Generosity in the face of need, peace for those living with the

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scourge of war and violence and your love, oh god of love, in all

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life. Lord in your mercy, hear our prayer.

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At this time of celebration, we pray that your spirit may guide,

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your power protect and your love enfold the Queen as she fulfils her

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many duties. Bless Prince Philip, Duke of Edinburgh, Prince Charles,

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Duke Of wrath say and all members of the Royal Family in their

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service of the nation. May we ever find in them an example of

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dedication and selfless service. Lord in your mercy, hear our prayer.

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By your spirit of truth and love, lead or those who bear the

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responsibility of government and leadership in the nation, members

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of the parliaments of both Scotland and the United Kingdom, members of

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local authorities and all who act on behalf of the people of Scotland.

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May they serve to enhance the life of the whole community and never

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just selfish or sectarian interest. Lord in your mercy, hear our prayer.

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Lord Of Love, touch the hearts of all in this nation. May the talons

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and work of every citizen be valued, encouraged to grow and to develop

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so that freedom, neighbourliness and generosity become its hallmarks,

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with no one rejected and all held in respect. Lord in your mercy,

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hear our prayer. We pray for all those who in our

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name are called to serve the Queen and the country in the forces of

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the Crown and strive to bring peace and security at home and overseas.

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May they be courageous in danger, resolute in adversity and kindly

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and success. Especially this day, we hole before God, the airmen of

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Lossiemouth and their families and all in need of God's help, healing

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and hope. Lord in your mercy, hear our prayer.

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We pray for the young people of Scotland that they may appreciate

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the varieties of culture that form our nation's heritage, find a

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harmony that has eluded previous generations and be inspired and

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allowed to use the full breadth of their talent to the benefit of

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their country and the wider world. Lord in your mercy, hear our prayer.

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Oh, God, you seek the good of all your people and call us to share in

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that Ministry of love and peace. We pray that threw us, something of

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your light will shine on the world, some hope come to those who despair,

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some confidence to those who are anxious, some comfort to those who

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mourn and new signs of peace and love to all whom we meet. Lord in

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# How glorious Zion's courts appear. # The city of our God!

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# His throne he hath established here.

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# Here fixed his loved abode. # Its walls, defended by his grace.

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# No power shall e'er o'erthrow. # Salvation is its bulwark sure

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# Against the assailing foe. # Lift up the everlasting gates.

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# The doors wide open fling! # Enter, ye nations, who obey.

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# The statutes of our King! # Here shall ye taste unmingled

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joys. # And dwell in perfect peace.

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# Ye, who have known Jehovah's Name. # And trusted in his grace.

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# Trust in the Lord, for ever trust. # And banish all your fears;

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# Strength in the Lord Jehovah dwells

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In the Name Of the Father, the Sun and the Holy Spirit, I would like

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to invite you to join with me in reflecting upon the significance of

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three metaphors found in this reading from revelation chapter two,

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this one. The first metaphor speaks of the lamb Upon the throne, the

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second is the city and the third is the river. I believe we can draw

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meaning and inspiration for our lives and our communities from

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these metaphors in John's vision. In times of great change and

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reordering of societies, those who are in leadership require a wisdom

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that goes beyond their years. They require knowledge that allows

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changed to be rooted in justice and integrity. Successful leaders

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inevitably will have it in a spiritual resources that sustain

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and strengthen them, giving them courage to lead. Of all the nations

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in the world, we in the British Isles and the Commonwealth have

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been blessed by the unstinting dedication of her Majesty the Queen

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and the Duke of Edinburgh. During these past 60 years of

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unprecedented change, her Majesty has brought the continuity and

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insight of a wise and gifted monarch, acting as a councillor and

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confidant to many a prime minister and world leader. And sometimes a

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humble parish minister. At the coronation, the then Moderator of

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the general assembly presented her Majesty with a copy of the Bible,

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while the Archbishop of Canterbury said these words. "we present you

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with this book, the most valuable thing that this world affords. Here

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his wisdom. This is the Royal law. These are the lively oracles of

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God." here lies the source that has sustained her Majesty. To be

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crowned Queen is to believe that you have been called have got to

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this high and noble office. With it comes a promise of dedication and

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commitment to God and the people. It is a covenant for life. The word

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covenant is an ancient word. Its roots are in the Old Testament. To

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make covenanted to be true to the promise you have made, even at a

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costly nature to sell. It is to dedicate oneself to the promise.

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Archbishop of Rowan Williams, last month at St Paul's, paraphrased

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some of the Queen's coronation vows, and said it was as if she was

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saying "I have no goals that are not the goals of this community. I

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have no well-being, no happiness that is not the well-being of the

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community. What will make me content or happy is what makes for

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the good of this particular part of the human family". In many ways,

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statements like these are to speak the language of heaven. It is to

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hear God saying "I am for you." it is to seek to establish a part of

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heaven on earth in the way that the Celtic monks spoke of their

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monasteries as colonies of heaven and it's the people. So the throne

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speaks to us of the power of service that comes through

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sacrifice and points the nation to the joy of living in service to

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each other. Hanging over the communion table in this cathedral

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is a cross. If you look closely at the heart of this cross, there is a

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lamb being crucified. The lamb Upon the throne is the great gospel

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paradox of power. He who would be great among you must first be the

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servant of all. The lamb is the one who gives his life, a ransom for

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many. Thus, he is worthy to receive honour, power and glory. So what of

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the second metaphor, the city? The Bible begins the creativity of God

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in a garden, and it concludes it in a city. Perhaps we need to pay more

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attention to the city's. They need rivers of healing running through

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their streets. These words from the Book of revelation may sound

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esoteric and far removed from the lives of 21st century people, yet

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they are contemporary enough to have influenced the generation that

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is in search of a homeland, a city where the streets Have No Name, to

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paraphrase a quote from U2. For deep down in the human heart, there

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is a yearning for something we have lost and never had, a feeling of

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being homesick. The writer of the Hebrews describes it as looking for

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the city that is to come. All over the world, people are migrating to

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cities, looking for something that will make them better. Our cities,

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for many people, are places of violence and inequality, where the

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purpose of economy seems to serve the few at the expense of the many.

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But here, in this metaphor, is a city where healing and harmony

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flows through the streets from the throne. It is on occasions like

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this that our eyes are lifted towards things that are beyond the

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material to that which is spiritual and enriching. We have come here to

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think of the things that, in the words of the apostle Paul, R Noble,

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true and praiseworthy. Surely we come here to this magnificent

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cathedral to be inspired, to be renewed, to dare to believe in a

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vision that our cities themselves can be transformed by the power of

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prayer and the example of service And what of the river? The river is

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in the street of the great city. There is a river that makes glad

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the city of God. All cities have their rivers. And there is no city

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that could be prouder of its river than Glasgow. The city has the

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Clyde and it has been the source of wealth and a life of the

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inhabitants of the great city from the days of St Mungo to our present

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time. In this river some of the first Christians in Glasgow were

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baptised. In this river some of the greatest ships that that touched a

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thousand ports have been launched. This river, has brought great joy.

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But here in my text this morning, we are connecting with the river as

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the source of joy in the city of God.

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It is of the presence of the Spirit of God flowing like a river into

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the lives of his people. As we celebrate this, Her Majesty's

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Diamond Jubilee, perhaps we might let the wisdom from the most

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valuable book in the world speak to our hearts. By allowing the Lamb

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upon the throne to speak of the forgiveness of since and the joy of

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service. The city of God to become the model to build our cities upon.

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And the Old Testament concept of jubilee to be a river making

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justice for the poor, a hallmark of our nation. In doing such things,

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may this become the greatest lasting tribute to a Godley monarch

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her throne. In the name of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit,

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Amen. Let us pray together.

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God of time and eternity, whose Son reigns as servant, not master. We

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give you thanks and praise that you have blessed this Nation, the

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Realms and Territories with Elizabeth, our beloved and glorious

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Queen. In this year of Jubilee, grant her your gifts of love and

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joy and peace as she continues in faithful obedience to you, her Lord

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and God, and in devoted service to her lands and peoples, and those of

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the Commonwealth, now and all the days of her life; through Jesus

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Christ our Lord. Amen. That commissioned jubilee prayer

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concluding the sermon by the moderator, revelation and Clyde and

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U2, but a sense of optimism and if there is optimism it must lie in

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the young and we have five prayers of thanksgiving led by five pupils

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from five schools in Glasgow. Let us pray. We give thanks that

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for sixty years our Sovereign Lady, Queen Elizabeth,has given unstinted

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and dedicated service to Scotland, the United Kingdom and the

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Commonwealth, borne witness to the strengthening power of faith and

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trust in you, given the benefit of wisdom and experience to those in

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whom power resides, and to so many a confidence to meet the challenges

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of an ever changing world. Lord, we thank you.

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We give thanks that this Nation has been blessed through the

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generations with people of faith, vision, courage, ingenuity and

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wisdom, folk with skill, inspiration and talent in writing,

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music and all the arts, engineering and science, philosophy and

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medicine, folk who have contributed to learning and given life and work

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far beyond our borders and thus enhanced the sum of human knowledge

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and experience. Lord, we thank you. We give thanks that with a heritage

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that cherishes freedom and defends rights for every person, Scotland

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seeks to welcome the oppressed, the refugee and the homeless, the

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stranger and the visitor with hospitality and friendliness. We

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give thanks that the gifts and insights of many cultures and

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colour expand our national life encouraging us to reach beyond old

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boundaries and prejudices and grow to be the people you would have us

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be. Lord, we thank you. We give thanks for all those in

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Scotland who have the courage to bring us new knowledge,

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understandings and insights that enable us to cross old and limiting

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barriers, to break new ground and lead us to be a country prepared to

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meet today's challenges and seizing its opportunities. Lord, we thank

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you. We give thanks for all those whom

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we cherish in the circle of love and care around us, parents and

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children, brothers and sisters, friends and neighbours for all they

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bring to our lives and for that which we can bring to them. Through

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all such, we are reminded that your love is greater than our love and

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that you hold us all in that love which stretches even beyond death

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itself. So through Christ our Lord we may claim to be part of your

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praising and loved family, on earth and in heaven. Thanks be to God who

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knows our needs and hears our # Glory be to God the Father,

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# Glory be to God the Son, # Glory be to God the Spirit,

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# Great Jehovah, Three in One! # Glory, glory, glory, glory,

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# While eternal ages run! # Glory be to him who loved us,

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# Washed us from each spot and stain!

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# Glory be to him who bought us, # Made us kings with Him to reign!

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# Glory, glory, glory, glory, # To the Lamb that once was slain!

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# Glory to the King of angels, # Glory to the church's King,

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# Glory to the King of nations! # Heaven and earth, your praises

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bring. # Glory, glory, glory, glory,

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# To the King of glory bring! # "Glory, blessing, praise

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eternal!" # Thus the choir of angels sings.

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# "Honour, riches, power, dominion!"

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# Thus its praise creation brings; # Glory, glory, glory, glory,

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In this historic Kirk and Cathedral, and in fellowship with all who owe

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allegiance to our Sovereign Lady, Queen Elizabeth, we pledge

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ourselves today in faithful loyalty, duty and service to our Queen and

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to our Country. We pray that the Lord bless and keep The Queen, that

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she may put her hand into the hand of God and ever find that which is

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better than light and safer than a known way. Her ways thus becoming

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ways of gentleness and her paths, paths of peace. Through Jesus

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Christ our Lord. Amen. May the Lord Jesus Christ and God

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the Father, by grace, give to all good hope, encouragement of heart

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and strength in every good deed and word.

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The Blessing of God Almighty, the Father, the Son, and the Holy

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Apology for the loss of subtitles for 44 seconds

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Spirit be upon you and remain with # God save our gracious Queen,

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# Long live our noble Queen, # God save The Queen.

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# Send her victorious, # Happy and glorious,

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# Long to reign over us, # God save The Queen.

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# Thy choicest gifts in store # On her be pleased to pour,

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# Long may she reign. # May she defend our laws,

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# And ever give us cause # To sing with heart and voice,

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Apology for the loss of subtitles for 44 seconds

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As the members of the clergy bow to the Queen, we see some of the young

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pupils there who read the lessons, didn't they do splendidly? We have

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the Ecclesiastical Procession, Neil Gardner on the front who was - who

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conducted the marriage of the Queen's granddaughter.

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And there we have the heralds, very much part of the Royal procession.

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They are the presence of the Queen, the presence of the sovereign. They

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signify the presence of the sovereign.

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The Queen and Prince Philip, the Duke of Edinburgh, nodding and

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smiling to members of the congregation, this very large

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congregation. There is a descendant of Robert

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Bruce. Partnership looking amused by

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something as he comes through the screen that separates the choir

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from the nave in this 13th century cathedral. Now the high clerk of

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Glasgow. It is instrumental when we are thinking about history to

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remember what we are commemorating, 60 years upon the throne for Her

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Majesty, the Queen, in those 60 years, and there she is passing

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Mary McIlroy with that hat again. 92-year-old Mary. Britain joining

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the European Economic Community, the fall of the Berlin Wall, the

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release of Nelson Mandela and closer to home, the restoration of

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a Scottish Parliament within the United Kingdom. That element

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represented today, of course, by Alex Salmond, the First Minister of

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Scotland delivering one of the Her Majesty is being led towards

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the visitors' book, which she will sign. She is just getting her glove

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off in preparation. She has signed it before. She has been to this

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cathedral many times, but in particular for the Silver Jubilee

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in 1977 and the Golden Jubilee in 2002. Those of you who remember

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those events might reflect that this is a less formal occasion than

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those previous events. Packs in A little could see from one of the

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members of the congregation. -- a little curtsy. Outside, the heralds

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are waiting. Applause from those who have been standing so patiently

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for so many hours to see her Now, there has to be a Posy

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presentation. There are two girls from the Girls' Brigade, the oldest

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one in Glasgow, reinstated by the wife of the minister. Grace

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Clarkson presented the prosy, and she actually wrote to the Queen.

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There are members of the Sunday school as well, Alice and Fiona

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Baxendale. Grace Clarkson, who presented the Posy earlier, wrote

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to the Queen, Buckingham Palace, London, saying "I look forward to

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welcoming you to my cathedral". It is not just her cathedral, it is

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the Cathedral of the clergy as well and of the people, and it is also

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the Queen's cathedral, because it is Crown property. It is the

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Queen's Kirk. On this day, it belongs to Glasgow and Scotland. A

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thank you from the minister, Laurence Whitley. As her Majesty

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the Queen debars, so ends this cathedral service to mark her 60

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years of royal service. Glasgow has seen a kaleidoscope of Scotland's

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changing history. But today, the emphasis was upon Thanksgiving to

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her Majesty, Elizabeth, Queen of Scotland.

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A lovely wave from the Duke of Edinburgh. There is only a short

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time until we rejoin the Queen and Prince Philip in George Square. Tom,

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how would you describe the tone of that service, perhaps the only time

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the Queen has had U2 quoted at her? That was a nice touch. It was once

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again like that the secular aspect, the Scottish parliament, compared

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to the Westminster Parliament. The tone was a typically Scottish.

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There was tremendous simplicity running through it. The sermon

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itself was full of symbolism and perhaps not immediately easy to

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comprehend. But it is a wonderful statement of the relationship

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between the monarch, and also the changing times. I particularly

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liked the issue of the city being seen as it is today, because

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Glasgow is grossly divided between poverty and wealth. And that was

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brought out. But then there is the city on the hill, which is the

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spiritual aspect which we can hopefully all achieve and

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ameliorate the conditions in the City, the social conditions. What

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aspect of the ceremony as a whole, Kate, do you think would have

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appealed to the Queen? I think she would have enjoyed the informality.

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It was a bit less formal than the service we saw at St Paul's. Very

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little pomp. Much more about the people and the intimacy. I think

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she would have enjoyed those words from the young people. That was a

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great touch, seeing those people, who really are the future, at 14 or

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15. They are the future generation. Let's go back now to the exterior

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of the cathedral. The key parts of today's visit centred on the

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Service of Thanksgiving, and as you saw a moment ago, the Queen was

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presented with some posies by some young girls, who have had a day to

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remember. Isabel Fraser has managed to catch up with two of them.

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Yes, it is Grace Clarkson and amber daily and grace's mum, Brenda. This

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was a fantastic day for you. You did so well! Way you nervous?

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nervous, but I got over it. Were you nervous, Amber? Yes. You did

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very well. Grace, I understand you wrote to the Queen. What did you

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say? I said I have been enjoying the Diamond Jubilee on the TV. And

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I have been making party games for it and that I am coming to meet her

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at the cathedral. So you rode to her and said, welcome to my

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cathedral? And it is your cathedral. Have you been the stand-in Queen as

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she practises curtseying? Yes! These two were the first to join

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the Girls' Brigade, presenting bouquets to the Queen. We know how

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to raise girls in Glasgow. The royal car is making the short

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journey from the cathedral square, which was the centre of ancient

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Glasgow, to its contemporary art, George Square, where the crowds

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away to the Queen. Among them is our Laura Baker. What has been

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happening there today? You can hear behind me a group of

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another bunch of nervous youngsters. In the front row is Amy. Earlier,

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she told me she had lost six teeth. She is biting her fingernails.

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Earlier, we heard from St Paul's Primary, who have written a song

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for the occasion. Behind me is the marquee where the Queen will arrive.

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There are crowds in front, waiting for her. In the front row are Agnes

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and Rachel, top-to-toe in their finery. They have been waiting

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since 4:30am. At the moment, we are keeping our fingers crossed that it

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will stay dry. While we await the Queen, we can

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talk some more about the sermon. Tom, there were many things. We

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heard various metaphors, but overall, it was about service and

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sacrifice, again a reference to this incredible continuity of the

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queen's reign. Only one in six of us was alive when she took to the

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throne. Yes. Let me interrupt you - sorry. I don't mind being

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interrupted by you. The Queen herself is arriving in George

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Square. To cheers from the crowd. She is about to be greeted by the

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Lord Provost of the city, Sadie Docherty, in her role as Lord

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Lieutenant, and then by her deputy, Sir Kenneth Calman. It is a very

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busy royal year for Sadie Docherty. She only took up her position a few

:24:10.:24:14.

months ago. She said she was looking forward to the diversity of

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it. One day, she sees the Queen. Lovely reaction from the crowd as

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the Queen goes into the marquee, where she will meet some

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organisations who have received the Queen's Award, mainly for

:24:28.:24:33.

volunteering. Again, this takes us back to the idea of service, Tom.

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That is the essence of why she has earned such deep respect. It has

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been a continued contribution to society and to our people. The word

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that came up constantly during the programme was flawless performance.

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There has hardly been anything where she has stepped out of line.

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It is remarkable to me, with the trauma she experienced during the

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so-called annus horribilis, has been forgotten now. And it was only

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a few years ago. It is incredible to think of the differences between

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2002, the Golden Jubilee, which came hot on the heels of the death

:25:12.:25:18.

of Diana in 1997. And a very sad year for the Queen. She had lost

:25:18.:25:24.

her mother. People were talking about the end of the monarchy.

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Queen is riding high in popularity now. She is the most popular she

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has been since her coronation year in 1953, when the news came through

:25:36.:25:39.

that Edmund Hillary had conquered Everest. It seemed to Britain at

:25:39.:25:43.

the time that they were unconquerable. Things have changed

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massively since then. What has retrieved the situation? Have we

:25:50.:25:54.

changed as a country in the way we view the Queen, or has the royal

:25:54.:25:59.

family changed? It is partly the Queen herself. People respect the

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long effort she has put in. And as Tom was saying, she has been

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incredibly skilful at being politically neutral. We have no

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idea what she thinks about the political issues or her prime

:26:13.:26:19.

ministers, the many who have served with her. We have no idea. The

:26:19.:26:25.

younger royals have also done a lot. Diana died of course tragically in

:26:25.:26:29.

1997, but Wiliam in particular and Harry are seen as having inherited

:26:29.:26:35.

the mantle. The William and Kate phenomenon has had his significant

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effect. Firstly, we have had a short-term memory now as a society.

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It is so recent that this trauma occurred, and it has probably been

:26:45.:26:48.

completely forgotten. Those youngsters probably didn't know

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anything about it. Unless they have seen the portrayal of it in the

:26:54.:26:58.

film the Queen. But the other thing is something we talked about

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earlier. The context of an establishment being threatened to

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its very core by all these scandals, including not simply the world of

:27:13.:27:16.

commerce and business, but the world of politics and what Leveson

:27:16.:27:22.

is discovering, that, in a sense has enhanced her standing, because

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she stands apart from all that sleaze and therefore is a beacon.

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The extent to which the figures of establishment in this country have

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been relentlessly undermined over the last few years is something I

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don't think we appreciate. histories of the future will look

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back on these years. If it had not been for this cement and the arch

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that she and the monarchy provide, the true, if you like, we would be

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looking at interesting situations in this country. Let's look at the

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role of the Duke of Edinburgh. He was notable by his absence because

:27:59.:28:05.

of illness at St Paul's. But he was beside her today. It was lovely

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that the moderator, in his sermon, made reference to the role of the

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Duke of Edinburgh. He is her rock. She is the longest married monarch.

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She fell in love with the Duke of Edinburgh when she was 13. He was

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18. He was so handsome. He was about to go to war. It was 1939,

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when every girl wants to write to a young man at war. She has been in

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love with him ever since. He has been her rock. When he goes, it

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will be very difficult for her. We talk about how much longer the

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Queen might live. We might see another ten years. We might have a

:28:45.:28:49.

platinum jubilee in 2022, but it will be hard for her without the

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Duke of Edinburgh. This is especially true in the early years.

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But she has a -- he has a fascinating personality. He adds a

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degree of spice. In one of my books, when it was presented to him by one

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of his a cruise, he looked at it and said oh, no, don't tell me I've

:29:11.:29:20.

got to read this again! And I said, sir, there is not a problem. There

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is only one additional chapter. Thank God, he said. How much would

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his absence have been felt by the Queen in that Jubilee weekend?

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would have felt it a lot. She did look rather forlorn on the balcony,

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and a bit sad in the Jubilee Concert. When Prince Charles gave

:29:40.:29:47.

that lovely speech, eventually, it is likely that she will be living

:29:47.:29:54.

without him. If Queen Elizabeth holds on for a bit longer until the

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tenth of September 2015, she will be our longest reigning monarch.

:29:57.:30:01.

Queen Victoria lost Albert when she was very young, in her early

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forties. Elizabeth has had Philip as a consort. It is not easy being

:30:07.:30:11.

a consort. There is much more of a role for a Queen as the wife of a

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king. We have to remember that Philip was not with her when she

:30:14.:30:19.

was crowned. Always a step behind. But you wonder what goes on in the

:30:19.:30:26.

marriage. When King George V was crowned, they had their wives

:30:26.:30:30.

beside them. When the Queen was crowned, even though she was

:30:30.:30:35.

married and a mother, Prince Philip was not beside her. He was the

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They are an orderly husband -- ordinary husband and wife, but they

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are not ordinary. The thing I noticed the length of time it took

:30:48.:30:51.

the Queen to go and visit him in hospital. The ordinary couple, she

:30:51.:30:55.

would have been at the bed-side. There is a formality in that

:30:56.:30:58.

relationship. And when he was released from

:30:58.:31:03.

hospital, on his 91st birth day, she wasn't there, she was here, she

:31:03.:31:07.

was in Scotland? Yes. They are different.

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I he really is - she has to be polite all the time and never put a

:31:12.:31:18.

foot wrong and always be polite and he makes jokes that sometimes work

:31:18.:31:22.

brilliantly to break the ice. Sometimes they are a bit offensive

:31:22.:31:27.

and sometimes they are hilarious. Somebody should produce a book of

:31:27.:31:30.

his sayings. We are talking about the Duke which

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takes us on to family. This Diamond Jubilee celebration has seen a

:31:36.:31:39.

pairing down of the extended Royal Family and a higher profile for The

:31:39.:31:43.

Prince of Wales and his son, Prince William. Tomorrow, it is a

:31:43.:31:53.
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significant day for the younger prince who is known as the Earl of

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of Strathern. He is wearing the thistle. You can see him there. It

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is the lower emblem above his belt. It is on the left-hand side.

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Well, ahead of tomorrow's inauguration, we met up with the

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assistant secretary of the Order of the Thistle to find out more about

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The Order of the Thistle was revived by King James the senth and

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was -- Sechbt and was devifd again by Queen Ann since it has run

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throughout with appointments every so often. It is limited to 16

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people. It was originally 12. I'm Elizabeth Rhodes and I'm I'm keeper

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of the records and assistant secretary of the Order of the

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Thistle. The order is the most senior order there is in Scotland

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and therefore, there is a great deal I would imagine of kudos that

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attaches to those people who have been honoured. They are recognised

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for all they have done for Scotland. The appointment involves first of

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all if they are not already a knight, receiving the accolade from

:33:19.:33:23.

the sovereign which is done privately and then being installed

:33:23.:33:32.

in a public ceremony. The most interesting thing about the Order

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is the chapel of the Order of the Thistle which is just 100 years old.

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It is very, very small. It is very, very beautiful and was wonderfully

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constructed in a corner of St Giles Cathedral and it is full of stained

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glass, wonderful wooden carvings and it is probably the gem of the

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Order if you like. The chapel is a history of the

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Order because outside the chapel, there are stone plaques with the

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names of every member of the Order of the Thistle from 1687 and inside

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the chapel there is a store plate for every knight since 1910, there

:34:15.:34:21.

are bosses on the ceiling, so it is a very, very small historic Cal

:34:21.:34:27.

record of -- historical record of just over 300 years of chivalry.

:34:27.:34:34.

Well, that was Elizabeth Rhodes. The eagle eyed may have spotted in

:34:34.:34:40.

the cathedral as part of the court of Royal Procession. The titles and

:34:40.:34:45.

what they represent are unfamiliar, but Tom, as far as the monarchy is

:34:45.:34:49.

concerned and the order of things, the Order of the Thistle, it is

:34:49.:34:54.

very significant? As has been said, it is exclusive. It is limited to

:34:54.:34:59.

the 16 persons alive. So this a sense, to get into it, it is like

:34:59.:35:04.

dead man or dead woman's shoes. There is one woman in it at the

:35:04.:35:09.

moment, Marian Frazer. Probably no no Scots know anything about it

:35:09.:35:11.

because it has the lowest of profiles, but it is interesting in

:35:11.:35:15.

this sense that it is second in order of precedence for those who

:35:15.:35:19.

are interested in these things in terms of order of chivalry within

:35:19.:35:24.

the UK, the first is the Order of the Garter, and the second is the

:35:24.:35:30.

Orderer of the Thistle and the a gift from the monarch. It is not

:35:30.:35:33.

like the honours lists where politicians have a major influence

:35:33.:35:39.

on who is getting it... It is up to the Queen.

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And so that's probably why people who get it, and I'm thinking now of

:35:44.:35:51.

the people who are on it. It used to be almost entirely the odd ar

:35:51.:36:01.
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ris stock crassy. It includes academics, Lord Patel, a

:36:02.:36:05.

distinguished obstetrician. What is the significance of Prince

:36:05.:36:10.

William receiving it so young? is very important. It is up to

:36:10.:36:13.

Queen Elizabeth and she was the first person to say that women

:36:13.:36:21.

could be part of the Order of the Thistle. George VI brought in his

:36:21.:36:27.

wife. That was a special order and Elizabeth II said, "I want women to

:36:27.:36:30.

be part of this." It is very important to her who gets it and

:36:30.:36:35.

who doesn't. I think so. I think there is, I

:36:35.:36:39.

could only speculate about this, but I suspect also it is part of a

:36:39.:36:44.

wider agenda and the wider agenda is the charm offensive in Scotland

:36:44.:36:50.

which has been going on on for a few years since devolution and the

:36:50.:36:53.

pockets of something -- possibilities of something bigger

:36:53.:36:58.

coming down the track in 2014. Princess Anne is chancellor of my

:36:58.:37:06.

university plus the university of the Highlands and Islands. William

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and his wife met at St Andrew's University, but you could say

:37:12.:37:20.

that's an English university. So are you saying there is a

:37:20.:37:27.

strategy? I think it is certainly there and some of the evidence for

:37:27.:37:30.

it is in the public domain that this is going on, but you would

:37:30.:37:33.

expect this to happen. I think it is pushing William forward. We have

:37:33.:37:40.

seen him being a member of the Order of the Garter and now he is a

:37:40.:37:43.

member of the Order of the Thistle. The Queen is saying, "Of course,

:37:43.:37:48.

Charles is going to be the next king." But William is ready to take

:37:48.:37:51.

on more responsibility, be more of a working Royal and I think you

:37:51.:37:56.

know, it has always been important to the Queen that Scotland is very

:37:56.:37:59.

important and the Duke of Edinburgh can do less and less. I have been

:37:59.:38:03.

cynical about it, but there is no doubt about it, particularly

:38:03.:38:09.

Charles and the current Queen love the Highlands and the western Isles.

:38:09.:38:14.

This is not made up just to impress the Scots. This is a reality.

:38:14.:38:24.
:38:24.:38:25.

Exactly. It goes back to Queen Victoria who bought Balmoral.

:38:25.:38:31.

So So is this a strategy to strengthen the bond with the

:38:31.:38:34.

younger generation? They know they have got a brilliant card to play

:38:34.:38:44.

now in the persona of William and Kate. This is, these are world

:38:44.:38:52.

stars and so the House of Windsor has, after the tragic death of

:38:52.:38:58.

Diana and and they are a much safer pair of hands these two, unlikely

:38:58.:39:03.

to cause instability, they are going to push this as part of the

:39:03.:39:07.

whole agenda because as we talked about earlier, loyalty to the

:39:07.:39:10.

monarchy can ebb and flow. I agree.

:39:10.:39:17.

The firm has got to keep pushing. And it is one firm. The year of the

:39:17.:39:23.

Royal Wedding was an extravaganza. The title of the Duke of Edinburgh

:39:23.:39:28.

when he is dead, that will go to Edward. The Queen herself when she

:39:29.:39:35.

was a princess, she became the rockstarment she was -- rockstar.

:39:35.:39:41.

She was the princess. No one wanted her father, they wanted the young

:39:41.:39:45.

married princess. The younger Royals get the limelight. She did

:39:45.:39:48.

herself in the early 50s and it is happening again with Kate and

:39:48.:39:52.

William. They are becoming everyone's focus.

:39:52.:39:56.

They have got in a way which they didn't have at the time of the

:39:56.:40:01.

Diana situation and the death, they have got a well oiled PR machine

:40:01.:40:05.

and although, we have talked about continuity, and the fact that they

:40:05.:40:09.

haven't been infected by the scandals that have gone on in the

:40:09.:40:12.

world of the political and business establishment, they have learned

:40:12.:40:19.

one thing and that is to help to manage the news and in that sense,

:40:19.:40:23.

I am not suggesting they don't get spindoctors of the Alastair

:40:23.:40:26.

Campbell type, but they are accomplished at presenting a

:40:26.:40:31.

certain image. It is very interesting that they have pulled

:40:31.:40:39.

back from the cameras coming too close into, you know, infill

:40:39.:40:41.

infiltrating the daily life of the monarchy.

:40:41.:40:51.
:40:51.:40:51.

That happened in 1969. Also the media media has changed. We haven't

:40:51.:40:58.

got the same media as in 1997. It is like Elvis Presley, you have

:40:58.:41:01.

got to have mystique. You don't show everything.

:41:01.:41:05.

Well, let's talk about the Queen's mystique. You mentioned the firm

:41:05.:41:08.

there. It is a description of the family that we are familiar with.

:41:08.:41:14.

What do you see the Queen's role, is she still the Chief Executive of

:41:14.:41:20.

the firm or is she moving into more being a chairman? She is the Chief

:41:20.:41:25.

Executive. She is She is in charge, we saw it at jubilee interviews,

:41:25.:41:29.

they talk about granny. Granny is in charge. Granny is the one in

:41:29.:41:33.

control. She has great advisers and she, this is the big difference,

:41:33.:41:39.

they have learned that we have to respond more to the desires of the

:41:39.:41:45.

public. Her way of responding to emotional trauma was just get on

:41:45.:41:51.

with it, but Diana's death, the fact they had to make a change,

:41:51.:41:57.

there was a call for them to look at the flowers and greet the people.

:41:57.:42:01.

The institution of the monarchy was threatened.

:42:01.:42:08.

The Press was saying, "Come to us. Where are you?" It is strange for

:42:08.:42:12.

us to be sitting here looking at hugely successful 60 years on the

:42:12.:42:21.

throne, that now is seen as a blip. Exactly. Historians are aware of it.

:42:21.:42:26.

People like Kate and myself... the young girls... They were born

:42:26.:42:29.

after 97. It is a ripple that almost never

:42:29.:42:33.

existed. I think it could come back. Often

:42:33.:42:39.

in history we see massive swings between the swing gom ter of

:42:39.:42:43.

Royalty can go either side of the way and this is what everyone is

:42:43.:42:49.

aware and the Queen is aware of. It could go back. A few more scandals

:42:49.:42:53.

and there could be a swing. That's why the orchestration has to

:42:53.:42:59.

be persuasive and the news agenda has got to be, if not managed,

:42:59.:43:07.

influenced because it is true what Kate says, Victoria's popularity

:43:08.:43:10.

waned. Remember she went into seclusion.

:43:10.:43:16.

After a long period of mourning for Prince Albert.

:43:16.:43:21.

The problem which we see with our Queen as well, when you are working,

:43:21.:43:28.

when you normally lose your spouse, we would hide away, but you can't

:43:28.:43:31.

when you are Queen because being Royal means being seen. If you are

:43:31.:43:38.

not out there showing yourself, it doesn't work. Or not being seen

:43:38.:43:44.

because we saw during the jubilee celebrations a pairing down as I

:43:44.:43:49.

mentioned of the extend Royal Family on the balcony. Who would

:43:49.:43:54.

have decided that? Would that have come from the Queen? It is back to

:43:54.:43:58.

the advisers... And the Government. These are discussed with the

:43:58.:44:01.

Government and I think it was a very important innovation that we

:44:01.:44:05.

saw in the Diamond Jubilee barge and on the balcony, a focusing on

:44:05.:44:08.

the line of succession. It was the Queen and Prince Philip wasn't

:44:08.:44:13.

there, but the Queen, Charles and Camilla, William and Kate and Harry.

:44:13.:44:16.

Usually we see the lot of them on the balcony.

:44:16.:44:23.

As you were saying earlier Kate, that is one of the Achilles heels.

:44:23.:44:26.

This extraordinary family empire which has supported by the

:44:26.:44:29.

taxpayer... That's what gets criticised.

:44:29.:44:34.

They are vulnerable there and that vulnerability has been cut back.

:44:34.:44:39.

When people criticise the monarchy they say, "The Queen does a good

:44:39.:44:43.

job, but what are these extra people?" At the moment we are at a

:44:43.:44:48.

time of popularity with the month monarchy, but there are critiques

:44:48.:44:53.

about how much they are spending and that's focused on the minor

:44:53.:44:56.

Royals and the Queen was here focusing on Charles and William

:44:57.:45:00.

saying, "They are going to be the next kings." In her previous

:45:00.:45:03.

Christmas addresses, Charles has been cut out. This time he was

:45:03.:45:07.

centre stage and we almost accept that he is going to be the next

:45:07.:45:15.

king. A lot of people overseas ask about the monarchy and say she will

:45:15.:45:20.

abdicate and William will be king. Let me interrupt. The Queen is very

:45:20.:45:25.

much with us enjoying the adulation of the people who have gathered

:45:25.:45:31.

there in George Square to see her having very jolly time with smiles

:45:31.:45:39.

on their faces, it is nice the rain has stayed off today. There were

:45:39.:45:45.

threatens of heavy downpours there. We talk about how many Prime

:45:45.:45:54.

Ministers the Queen has seen in her reign, 12, I think. She has served

:45:54.:46:00.

along 22 Lord Lieutenants. She is having a chat with the people who

:46:00.:46:04.

have come to see. Lots of Union flags there.

:46:04.:46:08.

That's unusual in Scotland It is. A very, very jolly time

:46:08.:46:13.

there. The Queen in one of her trademark coats. It is said she

:46:13.:46:22.

wears a strong colour, a a matching hat so she can be seen by the crowd.

:46:22.:46:25.

Even her wardrobe is part of her duty.

:46:25.:46:29.

Hundreds of people in George Square there who have turned out.

:46:29.:46:33.

They are there to catch a glimpse of Her Majesty, one of them is

:46:33.:46:38.

Laura Baker who has been beefering around cot -- beavering around

:46:38.:46:42.

chatting to people and especially the younger people who have never

:46:42.:46:46.

seen her before who have only watched the jubilee celebrations

:46:46.:46:50.

wall to wall as we have seen last month and this month. What a thrill

:46:50.:46:55.

for them and for the older generation, who have said, "Yes, we

:46:55.:46:58.

have seen her before." But it shows how much the profile of the Queen

:46:58.:47:04.

has raised. Let's go to Laura who I think we can talk to to get a

:47:04.:47:06.

flavour of what it is like to be there. Lawyer rasmt

:47:06.:47:14.

The atmosphere has been incredible, hundreds of people waving their

:47:14.:47:18.

flags in George Square. They have their tiaras on to welcome her

:47:18.:47:22.

Majesty the Queen. You talked about generations a minute ago. We have a

:47:22.:47:25.

whole family here, starting with Katie. You were shaking when the

:47:25.:47:32.

Queen was here. Yes, I was so proud. What was it like when she came into

:47:32.:47:37.

the marquee? Wow, just goose bumps everywhere. You have seen her

:47:37.:47:42.

before? I bunked off college to see her in the late '80s. Why is it

:47:42.:47:47.

important for you to see the Queen? She is everything that is great

:47:47.:47:52.

about Britain. Every time the Queen checks a hand, all over the world,

:47:52.:47:57.

she is loved. I am so proud of her. You are dressed head-to-toe in

:47:57.:48:05.

Union flag finery. Where are we getting in these outfits? This was

:48:05.:48:13.

out of Primark. Other stores are available! So you were making sure

:48:13.:48:16.

them -- her Majesty could see you. This is something you have

:48:16.:48:21.

instilled in your daughters. Why is it important for you to see the

:48:21.:48:29.

Queen? Because the Queen makes Britain. That is what Britain means.

:48:29.:48:33.

You are dressed head to toe as well. Were you hoping to catch a glimpse

:48:33.:48:40.

of her? A year. Did you manage to see her? Yeah. Why is it important

:48:40.:48:45.

to come here? Because I have not really seen the Queen face-to-face.

:48:45.:48:53.

I only saw her on TV. So I thought, since she is coming to Glasgow,

:48:53.:49:01.

there was no hesitation. Have you been here all morning? Yeah. Making

:49:01.:49:06.

sure you could catch a glimpse. Trying to find a good spot. Becky,

:49:06.:49:10.

you have been here as well. What is important about being here in

:49:10.:49:15.

George Square? It is just amazing. I have never seen the Queen either,

:49:15.:49:23.

only on TV. I wanted to see her in person. You were waving your flags

:49:23.:49:28.

with the family. Has it been a nice day out? Yeah. What are you going

:49:28.:49:35.

to be for their rest of the day? don't know! KT, are you going to

:49:35.:49:39.

enjoy the rest of the party? Yes, we have got a picnic and everything

:49:39.:49:43.

organised. And you have been holding jubilee celebrations as

:49:43.:49:49.

well? Yes, I have had days in the local bowling club, garden parties,

:49:49.:49:55.

barbecues. And we will continue for the rest of the year! Thank you for

:49:55.:49:59.

speaking to us. The atmosphere here is incredible. People are making

:49:59.:50:03.

sure they are enjoying it. This is not the only union flag finery we

:50:03.:50:09.

have seen. There have been tiaras, head-to-toe outfits, people waving

:50:09.:50:12.

their flags and making sure they catch a glimpse of the Queen before

:50:12.:50:18.

she heads off. Other department stores selling

:50:18.:50:23.

Union cagoules are available. Tom, let's get back to what we were

:50:23.:50:27.

saying about consistency. It has been called beautiful, but as we

:50:27.:50:31.

all know, there is could be much soul-searching about Scotland's

:50:31.:50:35.

relationship with the rest of the UK. How does the monarchy sit

:50:35.:50:45.
:50:45.:50:46.

within this? What I think will happen if there is an independence

:50:46.:50:53.

provoked in 2014 is that there will be a return to the old Union of

:50:53.:50:59.

grounds which was established in 1603, when James VI of Scotland

:50:59.:51:03.

became the first monarch of the new United Kingdom, succeeding

:51:03.:51:07.

Elizabeth. The Scottish National Party and Alex Salmond in

:51:07.:51:13.

particular are firmly on the record that they want the monarchy to

:51:13.:51:19.

continue post any pro-independence referendum. That will give comfort

:51:19.:51:25.

to the royal house, that that has been said so emphatically. The

:51:25.:51:30.

bigger challenge is what happens when this current monarch dies.

:51:31.:51:38.

There is clear evidence that a lot of the popularity of the

:51:38.:51:42.

institution is based around the survival of one person. And the

:51:42.:51:48.

Commonwealth itself. Jamaica has suggested it will succeed.

:51:48.:51:51.

question is how long the Commonwealth will survive.

:51:51.:51:54.

Australia and New Zealand are just biding their time until they have

:51:54.:52:01.

another vote. Things will undoubtedly change. In 1977, during

:52:01.:52:07.

a speech, the Queen spoke on behalf of the Union. She made a speech

:52:07.:52:11.

detailing the benefits of the Union. The Queen making such a comment now

:52:11.:52:16.

would be unthinkable. That shows how things have changed. It's also

:52:16.:52:20.

shows how close we are to where possible seismic shift within the

:52:20.:52:27.

UK. Nobody knows what will happen in 2014. But the fact that it is

:52:27.:52:31.

now out of the question for her to make comments about that

:52:31.:52:36.

demonstrates that this is now on the agenda. It is serious. You

:52:36.:52:40.

can't get away any longer about saying things about the union which

:52:40.:52:44.

could be regarded as even vaguely political. It has nothing to do

:52:44.:52:48.

with her, it is Gollum's choice. The question then will be what

:52:48.:52:56.

happens to Wales. It is unacceptable territory that you

:52:56.:53:00.

move into now. If we look back at the Gidley weekend, there were some

:53:00.:53:08.

who were a sighting of the lack of street parties here are as a sign

:53:08.:53:14.

of lack of support, but others said, that is just not how we do things.

:53:14.:53:18.

There were fewer parties here than in the rest of the country. There

:53:18.:53:21.

is another factor operating here. The Guardian had a ball a few

:53:21.:53:28.

months ago -- they had a poll a few months ago showing that Scots do

:53:28.:53:33.

favour the monarchy, but they are less in favour than the other parts.

:53:33.:53:38.

There were only 60 street parties in Scotland, and 20 of them were

:53:38.:53:45.

parties organised by the loyal Orange Order. So we are talking

:53:45.:53:50.

about 40 compared to 7000 in England. So there is something

:53:50.:53:54.

going on. But there is no doubt in my mind that there is still

:53:54.:53:58.

affection for this current monarch. But what happens after? Defection

:53:58.:54:03.

is riding high at the moment, all are agreed. How is it sustained if

:54:03.:54:10.

you are an adviser to the Queen? What has been interesting to me is

:54:10.:54:16.

how much of this celebration in 2012, much more so than in 2002 or

:54:16.:54:21.

1997, is about the history of the 20th century. People are saying,

:54:21.:54:26.

the Queen was born in 1926, lived through the Second World War. So

:54:26.:54:29.

few people now remember the Second World War. She is one of the few

:54:29.:54:37.

that can, in detail. She heard the sounds of the bombs from them

:54:37.:54:45.

Dunkirk. Then she lived through the '50s, the '60s, the '70s, and the

:54:45.:54:50.

great changes we have had. It is a celebration of the changes we have

:54:50.:54:56.

come through, unimaginable changes in England, Scotland and the UK

:54:56.:55:01.

from 1952, when she came to the throne. To think that Winston

:55:01.:55:04.

Churchill was her first prime minister, and he did not think much

:55:04.:55:10.

of her... That is looking back. We are going near the end of the

:55:10.:55:16.

programme now. If I can ask you both as historians to look forward,

:55:16.:55:23.

if you were historians of the future, how will they view the

:55:23.:55:31.

Diamond Jubilee? It can be viewed in one of two ways. As Kate has

:55:31.:55:35.

said, it could be simply another staging post in the continuing

:55:35.:55:41.

popularity of the monarchy. Or it might be seen, alternatively, the

:55:41.:55:45.

future is not my period, but one could speculate that it might be

:55:45.:55:55.
:55:55.:55:56.

seen by historians of the year 2030, as the last monarch. I agree. At

:55:56.:55:59.

Queen Victoria's Diamond Jubilee, that was seen as the last time in

:55:59.:56:04.

which the Empire was still strong. It was disintegrating by 1897 and

:56:04.:56:07.

there were beginning to be uprisings, but the British still

:56:07.:56:10.

believed in it. That is what we will see in the future. We still

:56:10.:56:14.

have the Commonwealth and Britain is still a force to be reckoned

:56:14.:56:23.

with. And perhaps it will be, but by 2026, we might not have the same

:56:23.:56:29.

global reach. The best we can see by his done -- the best we can say

:56:29.:56:34.

as historians is that the jury is out on this. Whereas perhaps in

:56:34.:56:38.

1953, we would not be contemplating these potential scenarios of the

:56:38.:56:45.

end or the break-up of the monarchy. In the 1950s, everyone's loyalty

:56:45.:56:49.

was to their country. Now we are part of Europe and part of the

:56:49.:56:56.

world. Multiply identities. Perhaps the way to end this is "to be

:56:56.:57:01.

continued". Thank you very much. That brings us to the end of this

:57:01.:57:05.

special programme. The Queen's 60 years on the throne has been

:57:05.:57:09.

enduring, challenging, but ultimately hugely successful. Not

:57:09.:57:13.

bad for a woman who was never expected to reign. That dedication

:57:13.:57:20.

to duty has been marked today. Scotland is not only a part of the

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