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-Yes, this is a series

-about the menopause.

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-Don't dare switch channels,

-because it affects us all.

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-Yes, men too.

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-I'm 53.

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-I should be prepared.

-But I have no idea what to expect.

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-I'm determined to find out more.

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-How do women react to it?

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-I feel as if I've joined a club.

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-What are the available treatments?

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-I told the doctor...

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-"...Take me off HRT and it'll be

-your fault if I murder someone."

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-How do women all over the world

-deal with it?

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-Oh. Lovely.

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-This thing, the change,

-the menopause.

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-Don't put that in!

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-Don't put that in!

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-I can't say it!

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-Whatever you call it,

-I'm determined to understand it.

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-Today, we'll look

-at the menopause in history...

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-..and treatments, past and present.

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-To understand what is likely

-to happen to me in the menopause...

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-..it's worth looking back,

-before looking forward.

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-Has the historical portrayal

-of older women...

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-..made us a bit shy

-to discuss the subject?

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-In the past,

-older women were regarded...

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-..as either powerful

-or dangerous beings...

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-..or as useless old hags.

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-When many women were together,

-for example in a harem...

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-..the older, experienced

-women were respected.

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-Their experience of life

-gave them high status.

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-Often, they knew natural

-remedies and dispensed wise advice.

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-Experience!

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-But high status and power

-could be turned against women.

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-In many cultures,

-over the centuries...

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-..women who had been

-respected for their wisdom...

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-..were suddenly

-accused of being witches.

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-The idea of the older woman

-as a witch still lingers.

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-Don't tell me you weren't scared

-of a witch as a child.

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-It's important

-to remember that attitude.

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-But what about

-the history of our bodies?

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-In the Stone Age...

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-..our bodies had developed to be

-what they are now, more or less.

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-But those women would probably never

-reach 40, let alone 50 years of age.

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-There has been some discussion

-about the menopause.

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-Galen, regarded

-as the father of doctors...

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-..said that women lost

-the ability to bear children...

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-..after the age of 50.

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-Aristotle and Roman doctors

-mentioned this.

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-For centuries,

-the womb was considered...

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-..as something that

-caused problems for women.

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-The Greeks believed

-the womb wandered in the body.

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-Hysteria comes from the same root

-as the Greek word for womb.

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-Hysteria and the womb were linked.

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-At the start of the 19th century...

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-..the menopause was first defined

-by De Gardanne in France.

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-He wrote a book,

-La Menopausie, about the change.

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-He described the condition

-as the death of the womb.

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-It was a sad and great loss...

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-..because women

-lost the ability to bear children.

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-By learning more

-about medicine and the body...

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-..inevitably, menopausal women

-attracted doctors' attention...

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-..especially if they were angry...

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-..or even worse, if they cried.

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-Doctors, who knew

-too much in one respect...

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-..but not enough, really...

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-..began to describe the menopause

-as a horrific experience.

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-Doctors thought

-they could intervene and heal it.

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-Doctors, who thought of themselves

-as experienced and knowledgeable...

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-..injected a solution of lead

-into women's vaginas.

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-Lead?!

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-Yes, you heard correctly.

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-One of the treatments

-was a lead solution injection...

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-.."acetate of lead",

-as Victorian doctors called it.

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-Surely they died?

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-How would one survive that?

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-They'd get lead poisoning,

-wouldn't they?

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-They didn't have a chance.

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-Cruel.

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-Who tested if it worked?

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-Really?

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-How would that make any difference?

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-Good grief.

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-Those poor women.

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-Were they forced to have them?

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-Were they guinea pigs?

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-These men were doctors, remember.

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-At times, women themselves searched

-for relief from their symptoms.

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-At other times,

-husbands took control.

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-Did doctors think

-they were doing the right thing?

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-There are many theories...

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-..such as financial reasons,

-or experiments.

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-But they didn't usually

-help women a lot.

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-At the time,

-women didn't have much say...

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-..if someone else decided

-a treatment was best for them.

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-Women's status was much lower

-in Victorian times.

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-She was her husband's property.

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-Children were also

-the husband's property.

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-The husband could

-legally do as he wished.

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-Society accepted that

-the husband could beat his wife.

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-If you were rich

-and your wife was troublesome...

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-..you could get rid of her.

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-She could be sent to another house,

-or be imprisoned in the home.

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-Some husbands put

-their wives in asylums...

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-..if it was thought

-they had gone too far.

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-Doctors were men.

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-Husbands had rights

-over their wives.

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-If the husband said you were crazy

-and should be locked in an asylum...

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-..that's where you went.

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-There was no appeal.

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-That lasted until the second half

-of the 20th century, to some extent.

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-Hold on!

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-Did the menopause

-really drive some women crazy?

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-We always interpret

-behaviour that doesn't fit in...

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-..as that person's problem.

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-Maybe the menopause

-freed these women...

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-..to behave as they had wanted

-for many years.

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-Now they thought,

-"What does it matter?"

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-After the menopause,

-some of us feel stronger...

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-..more independent

-and energetic than before.

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-Maybe if a woman

-was more challenging...

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-..it was enough

-to make people say...

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-"..Ho! She isn't fit to mix

-with other people, send her away."

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-Many were sent to asylums.

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-# LA MARSEILLAISE #

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-At the time

-of the French Revolution...

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-..some women who were

-accused of rebellion...

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-..said they were

-in the middle of the change...

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-..and had the right to behave badly.

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-What a great excuse!

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-In those circumstances,

-the guillotine or the menopause...

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-..they went for the menopause.

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-Doctors dispensed treatment based

-on very unsound scientific bases...

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-..and imprisoned women in asylums.

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-They also made physical

-interventions.

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-As scientific knowledge developed

-in the 17th and 18th centuries...

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-..more interventions were made

-to the body's natural systems.

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-Doctors were overconfident

-in their own abilities...

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-..and their interpretations

-of any problem.

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-They thought blood

-should be lost every month.

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-So women had to be bled

-after menstruation stopped...

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-..to replace periods.

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-The womb, vagina,

-all the reproductive organs...

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-..were removed, without

-antiseptic or anaesthetic.

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-These operations were

-usually totally unnecessary.

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-Many women died.

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-If women felt unusually sexual...

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-..in the whirlpool

-of menopausal hormones...

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-..another treatment

-was to cut out the clitoris.

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-Men again.

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-No idea.

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-That's horrific.

-Thank goodness things have changed.

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-Hallelujah.

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-It's a natural process.

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-Did those doctors have some kind

-of fascination with the menopause?

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-Were they carrying out

-experiments, in a way?

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-Oh!

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-Ouch.

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-Ouch indeed.

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-In the second part,

-we look at treatments...

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-..which were, thank goodness,

-a little more modern.

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-After the cruel,

-experimental treatments...

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-..for bad menopausal symptoms

-in the Victorian era...

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-..and the general belief that

-the menopause made woman crazy...

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-..by the start

-of the 20th century...

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-..the medical world began to

-realize that hormones played a part.

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-It seems that it all began...

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-..when a Parisian midwife

-drank a liquid she had made...

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-..out of a sow's ovaries.

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-It seems it worked well

-on hot flushes.

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-The midwife, not the sow, of course.

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-Things developed quite rapidly.

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-By the 1960s,

-hormone treatments raced ahead.

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-But what exactly is it?

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-HRT is Hormone Replacement Therapy.

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-The decreased hormones

-in the woman's body are given back.

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-It involves taking a tablet.

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-There are other methods, like

-patches or gel, or implants too.

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-There are options

-to suit different needs.

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-It's not the answer for everyone.

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-It's worth going for a chat.

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-I've taken HRT for several years.

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-The best thing since sliced bread.

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-I was less exhausted.

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-It got rid of my severe arm ache

-and it was easier to sleep.

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-Those were the three things

-that bothered me.

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-I don't know why people

-take the patches.

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-I think it interferes with nature.

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-It's easy for me to talk.

-It didn't affect me a lot.

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-I don't know many women who took it.

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-But for those who did...

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-..was it really necessary

-to take something?

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-Personally, I think not.

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-Perhaps I'm not sympathetic enough!

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-The doctor wasn't much help.

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-She mentioned negative side effects,

-such as hair loss.

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-I felt worse afterwards.

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-She tried to push HRT on me.

-I refused to take it.

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-I wanted to use natural remedies.

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-They calm me down so much.

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-I can't describe the difference.

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-Before, I couldn't sleep...

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-..I was grumpy, bloated...

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-..and I didn't want sex.

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-It wasn't a good time.

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-I started taking HRT.

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-I'm not claiming it suits everyone,

-but it suits me.

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-When I first took HRT,

-I thought I'd be on it forever.

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-At the time,

-there was no harm in taking HRT.

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-But like most prescription drugs...

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-..the more I took it...

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-..the worse the side effects became.

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-Teresa Gorman

-and Mrs Thatcher praised HRT.

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-If it was good enough for them,

-it was good enough for me.

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-I went on HRT and loved it.

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-I had energy and felt livelier.

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-I thought it was great.

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-I was on HRT for five years.

-My blood pressure started to go up.

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-The doctor advised me

-to come off HRT. That was it.

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-The doctor prescribed HRT.

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-Wonderful.

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-A few months later,

-I found a lump in my breast.

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-It was OK. I had it removed.

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-Three months later,

-I found another lump.

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-That was benign and was removed.

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-Then the third lump was removed.

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-I had a lot of cysts in my breast

-and the HRT fed them.

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-They were the size of marbles.

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-I was taken off HRT.

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-Women need to be informed...

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-..and advised.

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-Everyone's experience is different.

-We must choose what's best for us.

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-The doctor told me I could only

-be on them for ten years.

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-I said, "Take me off HRT and it'll

-be your fault if I kill someone."

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-Our women had

-a mixed opinion about HRT.

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-At least today

-we can make an informed decision.

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-HRT can increase

-the risk of certain illnesses...

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-..including

-breast cancer and stroke.

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-But it reduces

-the risk of colon cancer...

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-..as well as getting rid

-of menopausal symptoms.

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-There is a choice.

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-Some HRT is tested on animals

-and there are synthetic types.

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-In the 1960s,

-the facts weren't clear.

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-HRT was marketed

-as a cure for illness...

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-..rather than a possible treatment

-to alleviate symptoms.

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-I'm not sure if changing the

-medical emphasis improved things.

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-In the 1950s and 1960s...

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-..there was a greater emphasis

-on hormonal changes.

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-People were aware

-that oestrogen levels dropped.

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-This was seen as a condition

-almost like diabetes.

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-It was thought women

-needed more oestrogen.

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-Women were under pressure

-not to gain weight...

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-..and to avoid a high-fat diet

-once they'd turned fifty.

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-But of course,

-fatty foods produce oestrogen...

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-..thus preventing

-the oestrogen levels from dropping.

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-This presented

-a kind of contradiction.

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-Oestrogen levels dropped.

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-But the body naturally overcomes

-this by weight gain.

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-This was seen as a bad thing.

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-Women lost weight

-and oestrogen levels dropped.

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-The symptoms worsened as a result.

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-That led to huge companies...

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-..producing hormone therapies...

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-..to supply the need...

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-..rather than us accepting it's

-a natural part of a woman's life.

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-And so, if HRT isn't for you...

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-..there's a vast choice of

-alternative and natural therapies.

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-Some women use herbs and plants.

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-I usually use a combination

-of eight herbs.

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-It's in the form of a tincture...

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-..infused in alcohol

-and taken in water.

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-I treat the causes

-rather than the symptoms.

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-There are many factors to consider.

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-But everyone is an individual.

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-What I'd give you would be different

-from what I'd give someone else.

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-Some women need

-to boost their livers.

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-It's important the liver is strong

-to see her through this time.

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-I might use dandelion roots.

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-I combine various ingredients

-to treat different symptoms.

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-Lavender can help

-the liver and mood.

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-It helps keep

-the body temperature down.

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-I could use Ladies Mantile...

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-..if a woman loses a lot of blood.

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-It slows down the blood flow.

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-Vitex agnes-castus

-can help improve hormone balance.

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-You'd have to use that over

-a few months.

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-It's very good...

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-..especially when

-the menopause approaches.

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-It's vital to look

-at the woman's diet.

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-Acidic food can upset the body.

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-Women should avoid high sugar foods,

-coffee...

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-..and eat foods

-that are as natural as possible.

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-That way, the woman will get

-the minerals and vitamins.

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-Has anyone tried natural treatments?

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-I took bottles of black cohosh,

-red clover and sage.

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-It made no difference.

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-It made no difference.

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-I looked into healthy eating.

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-I discovered that

-seeds and nuts helped.

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-They definitely gave me more energy.

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-I still take seeds and nuts

-on my cereal every day.

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-I went on holiday to Greece

-and tried various herbs.

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-I bought three bags of the stuff.

-It tasted like wormwood.

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-I couldn't drink it.

-I threw the bags in the bin.

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-I knew I'd never be able to face it.

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-That was money down the drain.

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-I've spent a fortune.

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-I saw a Chinese herbalist

-thinking this might be the answer.

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-I spent a fortune.

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-Different things work

-for different people.

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-Herbs, diet, tablets and

-vitamins, meditation and yoga.

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-We can do some ourselves for free.

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-Others cost a fortune.

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-How about a foot massage?

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-Reflexology.

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-I thought that helped a bit.

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-But you have to go often

-and it can be expensive.

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-It's 30 a session.

-I needed three sessions a week.

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-I'll try anything.

-I even wear a magnet in my knickers.

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-Do you want to see it?!

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-That was meant

-to alleviate the symptoms.

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-It was only 20.

-So I sent away for it.

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-It was nothing compared

-to what I'd already spent.

0:21:510:21:55

-I gave it a go and at least

-I wasn't swallowing anything.

0:21:550:22:00

-I've been wearing it for four years.

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-I have to say,

-it does alleviate the symptoms.

0:22:030:22:07

-Maybe I'm a sucker for a gadget,

-but I think it works.

0:22:070:22:12

-Someone asked me,

-"Do you think it works?"

0:22:120:22:16

-Then someone piped up...

0:22:160:22:18

-"..Every time she walks in the

-kitchen, the cutlery drawer opens!"

0:22:180:22:22

-At least the remedies don't involve

-surgery without anaesthetic...

0:22:230:22:28

-..or being pumped with lead.

0:22:290:22:31

-We've come a long way,

-thank goodness.

0:22:310:22:34

-We can make decisions

-after researching the facts.

0:22:340:22:39

-That's cause for celebration.

-But it still isn't an easy decision.

0:22:390:22:45

-Would I opt for HRT?

0:22:460:22:49

-If I had severe symptoms...

0:22:500:22:52

-..I'd want to do something about it.

0:22:530:22:56

-I'd go for alternative

-treatments first.

0:22:560:23:00

-If they didn't work...

0:23:000:23:03

-..I might try green remedies...

0:23:030:23:07

-..or a product that

-didn't cause any animal to suffer...

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-..just for a little bit.

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-I would.

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-Next time, I'll look

-at different cultures...

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-..and take a test.

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